From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Oct 1 09:52:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA04774 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:52:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA24424 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:52:13 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma024422; Thu, 1 Oct 98 09:52:04 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:32264 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10750-24923>; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:51:36 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154261-4055>; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 23:02:43 -0400 Received: from post-11.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.40]:63907 "EHLO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154266-4055>; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 23:02:28 -0400 Received: from [193.237.23.100] (helo=gate.sw.milldev.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.03 #1) id 0zOdVr-0006Ow-00; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 07:50:59 +0000 Received: from florence.sw.milldev.co.uk (florence.sw.milldev.co.uk [192.168.0.6]) by gate.sw.milldev.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA02865; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:51:14 +0100 From: Russell King Received: (from rmk@localhost) by florence.sw.milldev.co.uk (8.8.5/8.7.3) id IAA07159; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:51:13 +0100 Message-Id: <199810010751.IAA07159@florence.sw.milldev.co.uk> Subject: Re: Debian ports for RiscPC, ARM710, etc. To: philb@gnu.org (Philip Blundell) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:51:13 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux@arm.uk.linux.org, Linux-Arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Philip Blundell" at Sep 30, 98 07:08:06 pm Content-Type: text X-Orcpt: rfc822;Linux-Arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 789 Lines: 20 Philip Blundell said: > >BTW, DMA doesn't seem to work with this drive (Conner CFS1081A) - does anyone > > What happens when you try to turn it on? Some drives do seem to claim to be > able to do DMA but actually fail every transfer if you use it. It doesn't work. (it times out with an IRQ status of 0). > > BuffType=0(?), BuffSize=0KB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=off > > DblWordIO=no, maxPIO=1(medium), DMA=yes, maxDMA=2(fast) > > It looks like the drive certainly thinks it supports DMA. But the IDE driver > almost certainly doesn't know about the cache coherency issues involved. Hmm. However, the IDE driver does not use the normal enable_dma() functions. -- Russell King (rmk@milldev.demon.co.uk) unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From rmk@milldev.demon.co.uk Thu Oct 1 09:54:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA04832 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:54:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA24431 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:54:13 +0200 Received: from post-12.mail.demon.net(194.217.242.41) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma024429; Thu, 1 Oct 98 09:53:52 +0200 Received: from [193.237.23.100] (helo=gate.sw.milldev.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.03 #1) id 0zOdYa-0004th-00; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 07:53:49 +0000 Received: from florence.sw.milldev.co.uk (florence.sw.milldev.co.uk [192.168.0.6]) by gate.sw.milldev.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA02915; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:54:04 +0100 From: Russell King Received: (from rmk@localhost) by florence.sw.milldev.co.uk (8.8.5/8.7.3) id IAA07167; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:54:03 +0100 Message-Id: <199810010754.IAA07167@florence.sw.milldev.co.uk> Subject: Re: Debian ports for RiscPC, ARM710, etc. To: nico@CAM.ORG (Nicolas Pitre) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:54:02 +0100 (BST) Cc: Matthew.Wilcox@genedata.com, EduardPfarr@swol.de, Linux-Arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Nicolas Pitre" at Sep 30, 98 02:29:00 pm Content-Type: text Status: RO Content-Length: 877 Lines: 17 Nicolas Pitre said: > This kind of message makes me mad when I see it. You should be aware that > there isn't only English in the world even if Americans were part of the > first computer designs and didn't bother about other characters than the > plain dumb ASCII. SMTP and NNTP are 8 bits now and since I actually can > see those quotes right even from the above wich is a reply from your > mailer I must conclude that your mailer and the SMTP gateways on the path > from it to the mailing list handle high ASCII just fine. These characters > are displayed correctly within Winblows and Linux too, even in text mode > which is what I use. Well, I read all my mail in both X and text mode under Linux with elm (+mime extensions) and it doesn't come out correctly on that. -- Russell King (rmk@milldev.demon.co.uk) Millbank Electronics Tel: 01825 764811 Fax: 01825 761620 From rmk@milldev.demon.co.uk Thu Oct 1 09:57:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA04919 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:57:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA24442 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:57:13 +0200 Received: from post-20.mail.demon.net(194.217.242.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma024435; Thu, 1 Oct 98 09:56:49 +0200 Received: from [193.237.23.100] (helo=gate.sw.milldev.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.03 #1) id 0zOdbS-0000iQ-00; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 07:56:46 +0000 Received: from florence.sw.milldev.co.uk (florence.sw.milldev.co.uk [192.168.0.6]) by gate.sw.milldev.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA02948; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:57:03 +0100 From: Russell King Received: (from rmk@localhost) by florence.sw.milldev.co.uk (8.8.5/8.7.3) id IAA07175; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:57:02 +0100 Message-Id: <199810010757.IAA07175@florence.sw.milldev.co.uk> Subject: Re: Debian ports for RiscPC, ARM710, etc. To: elw@wc-rt.tntech.edu Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:57:01 +0100 (BST) Cc: Matthew.Wilcox@genedata.com, Linux-Arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Elijah L. Wright" at Sep 30, 98 02:43:54 pm Content-Type: text Status: RO Content-Length: 815 Lines: 20 Elijah L. Wright said: > you know, i personally don't have time to deal with this kind of crap. > > if the mailer or the editor you're using simply can't deal with the kind > of characters that are being used, perhaps you need to get a new piece of > software. pine/linux in latin-1 mode handles all of what's been posted > just jolly. > > if you're going to have a charset-snob flamewar, at least stop cc'ing > lists. UTF-8 is fine. so are a lot of other charsets. don't be a bigot. > > i bet people are unsubscribing because of things like this. don't waste > everyone's time with your petty argument. And as you say, you don't have time for this, and nor do I. So either stop waring publically, or you will be unsubscribed. As you say, stop CC:'ing my list. -- Russell King (rmk@milldev.demon.co.uk) From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Oct 1 10:15:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA05253 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:15:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA24501 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:15:13 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma024499; Thu, 1 Oct 98 10:14:48 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:53529 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <6541-24079>; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 11:12:49 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154336-4055>; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 23:16:34 -0400 Received: from post-11.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.40]:33254 "EHLO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154371-4055>; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 23:13:20 -0400 Received: from [193.237.23.100] (helo=gate.sw.milldev.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.03 #1) id 0zOdgH-0007fq-00; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:01:47 +0000 Received: from florence.sw.milldev.co.uk (florence.sw.milldev.co.uk [192.168.0.6]) by gate.sw.milldev.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA02994; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:01:59 +0100 From: Russell King Received: (from rmk@localhost) by florence.sw.milldev.co.uk (8.8.5/8.7.3) id JAA07184; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:01:58 +0100 Message-Id: <199810010801.JAA07184@florence.sw.milldev.co.uk> Subject: Re: Debian ports for RiscPC, ARM710, etc. To: philb@gnu.org (Philip Blundell) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:01:57 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux@arm.uk.linux.org, Linux-Arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Philip Blundell" at Sep 30, 98 09:46:19 pm Content-Type: text X-Orcpt: rfc822;Linux-Arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1117 Lines: 23 Philip Blundell said: > >Ok, after setting the PCI Latency timers to something sensible (32), I'm still > >getting around 1.4MB/s. There is the little matter of one of Phil's comments > >lying around in the sources: > > > > /* Nobody could say these are optimal, but not to worry. */ > > > >Hmm, maybe I ought to optimise them then... > > Having looked at the code again, although there certainly is some scope for > improvement I don't think this is likely to be the direct cause of your > problem. My guess would be that the (presumably uncached) external I/O access > will dominate the time taken for the transfer. For routines like insw it > really is important that those accesses happen 16 bits at a time so you can't > use multiple-register load instructions either. Well, optimising insw made things worse - I think that there is no point in optimising these routines because it appears that the transfer time is not limited by the processor, but more the PCI bus itself... -- Russell King (rmk@milldev.demon.co.uk) unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Oct 1 10:19:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA05350 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:19:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA24515 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:19:13 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma024513; Thu, 1 Oct 98 10:18:59 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:53529 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <5545-24079>; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 11:17:17 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154307-4055>; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 23:21:04 -0400 Received: from post-11.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.40]:34023 "EHLO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154287-4055>; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 23:16:18 -0400 Received: from [193.237.23.100] (helo=gate.sw.milldev.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.03 #1) id 0zOdjD-0000Gw-00; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:04:47 +0000 Received: from florence.sw.milldev.co.uk (florence.sw.milldev.co.uk [192.168.0.6]) by gate.sw.milldev.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA03024; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:05:04 +0100 From: Russell King Received: (from rmk@localhost) by florence.sw.milldev.co.uk (8.8.5/8.7.3) id JAA07192; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:05:02 +0100 Message-Id: <199810010805.JAA07192@florence.sw.milldev.co.uk> Subject: My Internet Access To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:05:01 +0100 (BST) Cc: devel@Netwinder.org Content-Type: text X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 499 Lines: 14 Hi All, I am currently unable to access the internet at home, so please bear with me - normal service will be restored as soon as possible. This means that I will not be reading my personal mail for a time (nor will about 10 replies I have go out), however I will try to do what I can from work (probably during Lunchtimes only). I don't know when I'll be back on line however. -- Russell King (rmk@milldev.demon.co.uk) unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Oct 1 11:42:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA16061 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 11:42:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA24756 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 11:42:43 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma024754; Thu, 1 Oct 98 11:42:40 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:65057 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10719-24079>; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:42:26 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154334-4055>; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 00:53:14 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:8393 "EHLO globe.nexus.co.uk" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154338-4055>; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 00:52:56 -0400 Received: from [192.0.0.3] (helo=spring.nexus.co.uk ident=exim) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 0zOfBT-00059g-00; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:38:03 +0100 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=spring.nexus.co.uk ident=pb) by spring.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 0zOfBQ-00008D-00; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:38:00 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Russell King cc: philb@gnu.org (Philip Blundell), linux@arm.uk.linux.org, Linux-Arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Debian ports for RiscPC, ARM710, etc. In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 01 Oct 1998 08:51:13 BST." <199810010751.IAA07159@florence.sw.milldev.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 10:37:59 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;Linux-Arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 406 Lines: 12 >Hmm. However, the IDE driver does not use the normal enable_dma() functions. No, it wouldn't. The enable/disable_dma functions are only for slave DMA. Busmaster devices (ie most PCI ones) do everything themselves. So the IDE driver needs to do the cache coherency by hand, same as PCI ethernet and SCSI drivers do. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Oct 1 21:06:46 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA16701 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 21:06:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA26037 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 21:06:44 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma026035; Thu, 1 Oct 98 21:06:37 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:23066 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <5460-24079>; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 22:04:03 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154044-7446>; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:38:10 -0400 Received: from mail.thefree.net ([195.34.192.14]:1252 "EHLO mail.thefree.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154300-7446>; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:20:56 -0400 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Thu, 01 Oct 1998 18:09:27 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from loopback [195.34.196.223] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Thu, 01 Oct 1998 18:09:26 0000 Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 18:58:39 +0100 From: Chris Sawer To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: ArmLinux binaries Message-ID: <2c83518e48%root@usa.net> Reply-To: chris.sawer@usa.net X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40d for RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60m X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 640 Lines: 23 My ArmLinux binaries/information website has just been updated with two new binaries: XaoS - very impressive fractal program XMrIs - Arcade game similar to Mr. Do in addition to the now working: GXEdit - X-based text editor. The URL: http://members.xoom.com/chrissawer/armlinux.html If you can contribute any binaries (as long as they're not too big...), I'd love to hear from you. Chris -- Chris Sawer - Worthing, Sussex, England http://members.xoom.com/chrissawer/ E-Mail: chris.sawer@usa.net, ICQ: 15010147 PGP public key available on request unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Oct 1 22:43:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA18128 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 22:43:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA26210 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 22:43:14 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma026208; Thu, 1 Oct 98 22:42:50 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:47404 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10721-24079> convert rfc822-to-quoted-printable; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 23:40:15 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154076-7446>; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:57:10 -0400 Received: from ba1.augsburg.baynet.de ([194.95.202.130]:20809 "EHLO ba1.augsburg.baynet.de" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154696-7446> convert rfc822-to-8bit; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:14:04 -0400 Received: from ba471101 (dial057.augsburg.baynet.de [194.95.202.27]) by ba1.augsburg.baynet.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA06173 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 21:04:47 +0200 Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 20:32:27 +0200 From: Richard Atterer To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Ghostscript problem Message-ID: <488E549B19%atterer@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> In-Reply-To: <199809292242.XAA01298@raistlin.armlinux.org> Reply-To: atterer@augsburg.baynet.de MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by relay.ch.genedata.com id WAA18128 Status: RO Content-Length: 683 Lines: 23 [Following up to a private mail - I hope you don't mind, Russell] In message <199809292242.XAA01298@raistlin.armlinux.org> Russell wrote: > > gs dumps core - should I send that to you (59k zipped)? > > Not yet - can you check the sum of /usr/bin/gs please? My copy > is: > > 44058 480 Yes, that's the version I'm trying to use. > However, what I'll do is I'll send you a new binary with full > debugging on so that any core file is meaningful... Yes, please do that! Unfortunately I've only got a dial-in account here, so debugging over the net is not an option. By chance, I noticed yesterday that /usr/lib/ghostscript/fonts/u004006t.afm gave an I/O error when accessed From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Oct 1 23:30:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA18853 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 23:30:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA26288 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 23:30:14 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma026284; Thu, 1 Oct 98 23:29:47 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:19316 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11161-5650>; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 00:27:00 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <153879-7446>; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:15:05 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:2711 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "TIMEDOUT2") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <154686-7446>; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 11:49:39 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0zOpN8-0000ME-00; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 21:30:46 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: PCI IDE HD performance figures (lack of)? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 01 Oct 1998 00:39:14." <199809302339.AAA01080@raistlin.armlinux.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 21:30:45 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 598 Lines: 16 > BuffType=0(?), BuffSize=128KB, MaxMultSect=32, MultSect=off > DblWordIO=no, maxPIO=2(fast), DMA=yes, maxDMA=2(fast) > CurCHS=13446/15/63, CurSects=12706470, LBA=yes, LBAsects=12706470 > tDMA={min:120,rec:120}, DMA modes: mword0 mword1 *mword2 > IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:240,w/IORDY:120}, PIO modes: mode3 mode4 You're still not using 32-bit I/O or multiple sector transfers. I suspect the former will give you almost a 100% performance improvement if the bus is the bottleneck. Have you tried to turn these on? p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Oct 2 01:15:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA20612 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 01:15:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id BAA26493 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 01:15:14 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma026490; Fri, 2 Oct 98 01:15:08 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:22627 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10623-5650>; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 02:14:09 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154271-7446>; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:07:31 -0400 Received: from hme0.serv1.is1.u-net.net ([195.102.240.129]:36622 "EHLO serv1.is1.u-net.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <153972-7446>; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:45:20 -0400 Received: from [194.119.175.102] (helo=oac.u-net.com) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu id 0zOsGj-00015v-00; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 23:36:21 +0000 Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 23:04:09 +0100 From: Rob Davis To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: SyQuest Support Message-ID: Reply-To: rob.davis@oaci.org X-Organization: OAC Ministries X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40d for RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60m X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 766 Lines: 12 Well, I feel very pleased with myself for getting the Paride modules to work with ArmLinux. If anyone is interested in getting support for a Syquest or similar removable media, the modules are included in the 2.0.35 kernel sources but need to be included in one of the compiled directories, and added to the configure files. Also, as Parport is not supported in the 2.0.35 kernel, Printer support needs to be turned off. -- Rob Davis OAC Ministries, British Registered Charity, 295432 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Homepage: http://www.oac.u-net.com Mobile: 0973 359577 (SMS welcome) rob.davis@oaci.org (Rob.. At the house) unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Oct 2 01:15:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA20613 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 01:15:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id BAA26494 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 01:15:15 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xmaa26490; Fri, 2 Oct 98 01:15:09 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:22627 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10305-5650>; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 02:14:51 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154258-7446>; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:45:44 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1427 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154669-7446>; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:39:56 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (galatea-6.cableol.net [194.168.16.6]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id AAA23359; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 00:01:02 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA05407; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 23:28:44 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id XAA01167; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 23:29:25 +0100 Message-Id: <199810012229.XAA01167@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: Debian ports for RiscPC, ARM710, etc. To: philb@gnu.org (Philip Blundell) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 23:29:23 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux@arm.uk.linux.org, Linux-Arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Philip Blundell" at Sep 30, 98 09:46:19 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;Linux-Arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 2493 Lines: 51 Philip Blundell writes: > >From your hdparm settings it looks like you don't have 32-bit I/O enabled -- > that would probably be quite a win as it will halve the number of these slow > bus transactions. That also has the advantage that you get to use the > (apparently better optimised) insl rather than the slow insw. Hmm, very interesting. With 32-bit I/O on, I'm still getting 1.42MB/sec off the drive instead of 1.21 without. You don't suppose that the drive is not capable of any faster transfer rate than this, do you? It is after all the original one Acorn shipped with their RiscPC/700 1GB HD systems... > You might also try turning on multiple-sector mode which also seems to be > currently off. It is on already on the EBSA-285, but not the RiscPC ;) I think tomorrow night I'll fix the IDE driver wrt DMA cache flushing, and then move my (backed u p) UDMA drive into the interface and see what happens. Never know - it may fly with that drive. As a matter of interest, the Netwinder produces: /dev/hda: Model=TOSHIBA MK2101MAN, FwRev=B1.04 A, SerialNo=96B40903 Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw>15uSec Fixed DTR>10Mbs RotSpdTol>.5% } RawCHS=4200/16/63, TrkSize=40257, SectSize=639, ECCbytes=21 BuffType=3(DualPortCache), BuffSize=128KB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=8 DblWordIO=no, maxPIO=2(fast), DMA=yes, maxDMA=2(fast) CurCHS=4200/16/63, CurSects=4233600, LBA=yes, LBAsects=4233600 tDMA={min:120,rec:120}, DMA modes: sword0 sword1 sword2 mword0 mword1 *mword2 IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:120,w/IORDY:120}, PIO modes: mode3 mode4 Timing buffer-cache reads: 32 MB in 0.63 seconds =50.79 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads: 16 MB in 4.72 seconds = 3.39 MB/sec Estimating raw driver speed: 16 MB in 4.40 seconds = 3.63 MB/sec (PS, this is apparantly using DMA, mword 2 but to me it still looks rather poor). Ok, time to try out some timing tests at work and see what various PCs produce... _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Oct 3 00:47:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA07149 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 00:47:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA29578 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 00:47:52 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma029018; Fri, 2 Oct 98 19:27:26 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:58643 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <6676-5650>; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 20:27:08 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154572-22414>; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 08:29:04 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1158 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154475-22414>; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 08:28:45 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (galatea-56.cableol.net [194.168.16.56]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id SAA10800; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 18:52:42 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA05584; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 23:44:34 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id XAA01241; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 23:45:15 +0100 Message-Id: <199810012245.XAA01241@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: Ghostscript problem To: atterer@augsburg.baynet.de Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 23:45:14 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <488E549B19%atterer@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> from "Richard Atterer" at Oct 1, 98 08:32:27 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 2196 Lines: 45 Richard Atterer writes: > I felt uneasy about this (doesn't "I/O error" usually indicate read > errors or similarly serious failures?), so I checked my whole Linux > partition: 4 files give I/O errors under Linux; when using IscaFS under > RiscOS there is no error, but the IDE bus LED remains on after the file > has been accessed. I don't think the drive has errors, because it's new > (a 3.2GB Seagate on the internal IDE bus). I/O failures generally mean that it's unable to read something. You may want to check your system message logs /var/log/* for anything strange. > Also, the following error messages are printed during booting. Is this > serious? > > : kernel: fcntl_setlk() called by process 52 (syslogd) with broken > : flock() emulation That's ok - it's just a warning that syslogd may not work with future kernels. > : ypserv[90]: unable to register (YPPROG, YPVERS, udp). > : ypbind[113]: unable to register (YPBINDPROG, YPBINDVERS, udp). : > : Invalid argument Both of these will be produced by portmap missing. They're the Network Information Service (NIS) daemons, which you probably aren't using. As such, you might as well do a: rpm --erase ypclients ypserv ypbind > Additionally, /lib/modules/2.0.35/modules.dep isn't found. ISTR that > this is only supplied with the kernel sources, so I don't need it, do I? No, it's not supplied with the kernel sources. However, if you have some modules in /lib/modules//*, then this file will be generated automatically on the next boot. I think actually just creating the /lib/modules/ directory will be sufficient. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Oct 2 11:23:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA01217 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:23:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA27615 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:23:52 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma027613; Fri, 2 Oct 98 11:23:32 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:12668 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <6772-5650>; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 12:21:49 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154284-22414>; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 00:28:26 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:12548 "EHLO globe.nexus.co.uk" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154150-22414>; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 00:25:49 -0400 Received: from [192.0.0.3] (helo=spring.nexus.co.uk ident=exim) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 0zP1AM-0006L8-00; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 10:06:22 +0100 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=spring.nexus.co.uk ident=pb) by spring.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 0zP1AL-0008Od-00; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 10:06:21 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin cc: Linux-Arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Debian ports for RiscPC, ARM710, etc. In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 01 Oct 1998 23:29:23 BST." <199810012229.XAA01167@raistlin.armlinux.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 10:06:21 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;Linux-Arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 495 Lines: 15 >Hmm, very interesting. With 32-bit I/O on, I'm still getting 1.42MB/sec off >the drive instead of 1.21 without. You don't suppose that the drive is not >capable of any faster transfer rate than this, do you? It is after all the >original one Acorn shipped with their RiscPC/700 1GB HD systems... It's certainly possible - but I'd be surprised. >It is on already on the EBSA-285, but not the RiscPC ;) Oops. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Oct 2 11:13:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA00955 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:12:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA27516 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:12:53 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma027513; Fri, 2 Oct 98 11:12:18 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:17977 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <6862-7481>; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 12:11:36 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <153947-22414>; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 00:18:25 -0400 Received: from golden.argonet.co.uk ([194.131.104.13]:46454 "HELO golden.argonet.co.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <153863-22414>; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 00:18:04 -0400 Received: from localhost [127.0.0.1] by golden.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 0zP1Eh-0001Hx-00; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 10:10:51 +0100 Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 10:10:51 +0100 (BST) From: "Neil A. Carson" X-Sender: carson@fm3.facility.pipex.com Reply-To: "Neil A. Carson" To: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin cc: Philip Blundell , linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: PCI IDE HD performance figures (lack of)? In-Reply-To: <199809302339.AAA01080@raistlin.armlinux.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 682 Lines: 16 To e frank, (and brief as I'm still in Hon gKong now) we've found that with *BSD, the PIO performance of StronARM sucks too. I thought this may have been kernel overheads but mayeb not. Using UltraDMA with the Promise, we get around 10MB/sec at least,w hcih is pretty cool (went down to 8 recently for some reason AFAIR). Using PIO, though, we are lucky to touch 4MB/sec, even 32-bit mode 4. This is wierd as my PCI doing PIO mode 4 32-bit can do (SORRY-16 BIT!) can do 8 MB/sec or something like that. Certainly 6.5-7. So the SA is half as fast as this. Why??? Going now to save the phone bil... Neil unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Oct 2 16:23:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA24179 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:23:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA28623 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:23:21 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma028621; Fri, 2 Oct 98 16:23:03 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:57872 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <6407-7481>; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 17:19:48 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154408-22414>; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 05:24:37 -0400 Received: from post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.27]:63280 "EHLO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154407-22414>; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 05:23:14 -0400 Received: from [193.237.23.100] (helo=gate.sw.milldev.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.03 #1) id 0zP60W-0003BC-00; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 14:16:33 +0000 Received: from florence.sw.milldev.co.uk (florence.sw.milldev.co.uk [192.168.0.6]) by gate.sw.milldev.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA23994; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 15:00:55 +0100 From: Russell King Received: (from rmk@localhost) by florence.sw.milldev.co.uk (8.8.5/8.7.3) id PAA07288; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 15:00:54 +0100 Message-Id: <199810021400.PAA07288@florence.sw.milldev.co.uk> Subject: Re: Debian ports for RiscPC, ARM710, etc. To: pb@nexus.co.uk (Philip Blundell) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 15:00:53 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux@arm.uk.linux.org, Linux-Arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Philip Blundell" at Oct 2, 98 10:06:21 am Content-Type: text X-Orcpt: rfc822;Linux-Arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 767 Lines: 19 Philip Blundell said: > >Hmm, very interesting. With 32-bit I/O on, I'm still getting 1.42MB/sec off > >the drive instead of 1.21 without. You don't suppose that the drive is not > >capable of any faster transfer rate than this, do you? It is after all the > >original one Acorn shipped with their RiscPC/700 1GB HD systems... > > It's certainly possible - but I'd be surprised. Ok, I've done my tests here on a Cyrix 166MHz with a i82371 Triton PCI IDE i/f, running both the UDMA Seagate and the Conner. The results I get are: Seagate: 1.72MB/s PIO, ~7MB/s DMA Conner : 3.33MB/s PIO -- Russell King (rmk@milldev.demon.co.uk) Millbank Electronics Tel: 01825 764811 Fax: 01825 761620 unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Oct 2 17:37:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA26695 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 17:37:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA28773 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 17:37:51 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma028771; Fri, 2 Oct 98 17:37:23 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:19004 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <6938-7481>; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 18:35:06 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154531-22414>; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 06:40:05 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:22641 "EHLO globe.nexus.co.uk" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154499-22414>; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 06:36:19 -0400 Received: from [192.0.0.3] (helo=spring.nexus.co.uk ident=exim) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 0zP73P-0006rD-00; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:23:35 +0100 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=spring.nexus.co.uk ident=pb) by spring.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 0zP73L-00025y-00; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:23:31 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Russell King cc: linux@arm.uk.linux.org, Linux-Arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Debian ports for RiscPC, ARM710, etc. In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 02 Oct 1998 15:00:53 BST." <199810021400.PAA07288@florence.sw.milldev.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 16:23:29 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;Linux-Arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 437 Lines: 13 >Ok, I've done my tests here on a Cyrix 166MHz with a i82371 Triton PCI IDE >i/f, running both the UDMA Seagate and the Conner. The results I get are: > >Seagate: 1.72MB/s PIO, ~7MB/s DMA >Conner : 3.33MB/s PIO Thanks for that. It's certainly interesting news. Looks like implementing DMA really is a big win for some drives though I've no idea why. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Oct 2 23:00:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA02832 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 23:00:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA29005 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 19:19:21 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma028999; Fri, 2 Oct 98 19:18:53 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:7537 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <6777-7481>; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 20:18:34 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154029-22414>; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 08:24:07 -0400 Received: from post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.27]:39302 "EHLO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154325-22414>; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 08:23:48 -0400 Received: from [194.222.210.232] (helo=tardis.home.dave) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.03 #1) id 0zP8py-0006Ic-00; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 17:17:51 +0000 Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 18:17:15 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Gilbert X-Sender: gilbertd@tardis.home.dave To: "Neil A. Carson" cc: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin , Philip Blundell , linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: PCI IDE HD performance figures (lack of)? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1203 Lines: 26 On Fri, 2 Oct 1998, Neil A. Carson wrote: > To e frank, > > (and brief as I'm still in Hon gKong now) we've found that with *BSD, the > PIO performance of StronARM sucks too. I thought this may have been kernel > overheads but mayeb not. Using UltraDMA with the Promise, we get around > 10MB/sec at least,w hcih is pretty cool (went down to 8 recently for some > reason AFAIR). Using PIO, though, we are lucky to touch 4MB/sec, even > 32-bit mode 4. This is wierd as my PCI doing PIO mode 4 32-bit can do > (SORRY-16 BIT!) can do 8 MB/sec or something like that. Certainly 6.5-7. Something wierd is happening here; Alpha's suffer from the same problem; my 533MHz Alpha could only do about 2MB/s off the EIDE disc without DMA; turn DMA on and you get around 6MB/s (off an old disc at that). So its not just an ARM related problem. Dave -------------------------------------------------------------------- / Dr. David Alan Gilbert | Running Linux on Alpha(LX) | Happy \ \ gro.gilbert @ treblig.org | & ARM(EBSA285,old Arc) | In Hex / \____________________________|___ http://www.treblig.demon.co.uk __/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Oct 3 00:47:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA07153 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 00:47:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA29583 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 00:47:52 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma029046; Fri, 2 Oct 98 19:48:49 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:21272 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <5721-7481>; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 20:48:36 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154220-22414>; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 08:53:52 -0400 Received: from hillhead.cent.gla.ac.uk ([130.209.16.101]:44702 "EHLO jess.gla.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154218-22414>; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 08:53:26 -0400 Received: from lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk ([130.209.16.18]) by jess.gla.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.01 #1) id 0zP9IW-0007KB-00; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 18:47:20 +0100 Received: from localhost (9606585c@localhost) by lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk (8.8.4/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA13661; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 18:47:17 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 18:47:16 +0100 (BST) From: James Craig <9606585c@udcf.gla.ac.uk> X-Sender: 9606585c@lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk To: David Alan Gilbert cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, debian-arm@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Debian ports for RiscPC, ARM710, etc. In-Reply-To: <3610B35A.304CD50A@treblig.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 895 Lines: 26 On Tue, 29 Sep 1998, David Alan Gilbert wrote: > James Craig wrote: > > > > > > Processor: ARM7100 > > Speed: 18.432MHz. > > ROM: 6M > > RAM: 8M > > So there you go. I think it's pretty similar to the ARM7500 but designed > > for a palmtop instead of a normal PC. > > I think there are some people who've looked at porting to Psion; but I haven't > heard anything from them lately. I'm on the lists for the people at RedHat who're trying to do this; Unfortunately, they're too busy working on getting a bootloader running to even be thinking abuot the kernel. I gather there aren't any great problems there though - the problems are mostly to do with things like storage space. -- James Craig <9606585c@udcf.gla.ac.uk> unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Oct 3 00:47:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA07185 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 00:47:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA29610 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 00:47:55 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma029063; Fri, 2 Oct 98 20:06:47 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:19265 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <5750-5650> convert rfc822-to-quoted-printable; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 21:04:47 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154343-22414>; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 09:09:14 -0400 Received: from hillhead.cent.gla.ac.uk ([130.209.16.101]:44849 "EHLO jess.gla.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154325-22414> convert rfc822-to-8bit; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 09:05:53 -0400 Received: from lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk ([130.209.16.18]) by jess.gla.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.01 #1) id 0zP9Um-0007Oj-00; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 19:00:00 +0100 Received: from localhost (9606585c@localhost) by lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk (8.8.4/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA20880; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 18:59:57 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 18:59:56 +0100 (BST) From: James Craig <9606585c@udcf.gla.ac.uk> X-Sender: 9606585c@lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk To: Eduard Pfarr cc: Linux-Arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Debian ports for RiscPC, ARM710, etc. In-Reply-To: <95e6c68d48%root@swol.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;Linux-Arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by relay.ch.genedata.com id AAA07185 Status: RO Content-Length: 1768 Lines: 41 On Wed, 30 Sep 1998, Eduard Pfarr wrote: > »Phil Norman« schrieb in Artikel > <3ec1298d48%phil@tiddles.oregan.net> folgendes: > > > > If I did understand Jim and the others right they intend to do an ARMv3 > > > release which will work on any ARM »below« StrongARM - ie RiscPCs with > > ^ ^ > > Please stop using the above highlighted characters; they're high ASCII, > > and really should not be used in emails. > > Unusual - 3/4 of the European countries need »high ASCII« chars in their > mother language and people from there use these characters in e-mails as > well as Usenet articles. I've done this successfully for many years now, > too, and it works fine on Windoze and RISC OS. If it's a problem here I > will have to do something about it. Truthfully, it's just irritating, because they're not the normal english quote characters. It needs a concious mental effort to figure out what on earth they're meant to *be*. :) You should avoid using high-bit characters though, because they're *not* guaranteed to look the same on everyone's terminals. On mine they look like >> and << respectively for the two you're using, but that's not always the case. > > > ARM6xx and ARM7xx (and slower than must be on StrongARM RiscPCs). > > > > No, you did not understand correctly. Any linux-arm stuff compiled for v3 > > ARMs will work on the StrongARM. > > Great to hear. > > However does »slower than must be on StrongARM RiscPCs« apply? That's what everyone is arguing about. It shouldn't make a gigantic difference, IMHO, but I'm no guru on these matters. :) -- James Craig <9606585c@udcf.gla.ac.uk> unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Oct 3 00:47:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA07186 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 00:47:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA29611 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 00:47:55 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma029064; Fri, 2 Oct 98 20:09:39 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:19265 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <5958-5650>; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 21:09:30 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154601-22414>; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 09:10:02 -0400 Received: from hillhead.cent.gla.ac.uk ([130.209.16.101]:44892 "EHLO jess.gla.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154584-22414>; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 09:08:37 -0400 Received: from lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk ([130.209.16.18]) by jess.gla.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.01 #1) id 0zP9XH-0007PN-00; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 19:02:35 +0100 Received: from localhost (9606585c@localhost) by lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk (8.8.4/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA22605; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 19:02:33 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 19:02:32 +0100 (BST) From: James Craig <9606585c@udcf.gla.ac.uk> X-Sender: 9606585c@lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk To: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin cc: Philip Blundell , Linux-Arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Debian ports for RiscPC, ARM710, etc. In-Reply-To: <199809292237.XAA01265@raistlin.armlinux.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;Linux-Arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1515 Lines: 33 On Tue, 29 Sep 1998, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote: > BTW, DMA doesn't seem to work with this drive (Conner CFS1081A) - does anyone > know if this drive is DMA capable? According to hdparm -i: > > RawCHS=2097/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=4 > BuffType=0(?), BuffSize=0KB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=off > DblWordIO=no, maxPIO=1(medium), DMA=yes, maxDMA=2(fast) > CurCHS=2097/16/63, CurSects=2114180, LBA=yes, LBAsects=2114180 > tDMA={min:120,rec:120}, DMA modes: *mword0 mword1 mword2 > IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:383,w/IORDY:120}, PIO modes: mode3 mode4 > > Anyone know what this means? i'm guessing that it means that DMA mode 'mword0' > is supported, but none of the other modes. Compare with my nice posh drive which supports any DMA mode you throw at it; I'm not honestly sure, but I think the * indicates the highest mode it supports rather than meaning "that mode is supported" Model=Maxtor 90680D4, FwRev=PAS23B15, SerialNo=V405JQEA Config={ Fixed } RawCHS=13176/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=29 BuffType=3(DualPortCache), BuffSize=256kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=16 DblWordIO=no, maxPIO=2(fast), DMA=yes, maxDMA=2(fast) CurCHS=13176/16/63, CurSects=13281408, LBA=yes, LBAsects=13281408 tDMA={min:120,rec:120}, DMA modes: mword0 mword1 *mword2 IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:120,w/IORDY:120}, PIO modes: mode3 mode4 -- James Craig <9606585c@udcf.gla.ac.uk> unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Oct 3 00:47:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA07190 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 00:47:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA29613 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 00:47:56 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma029079; Fri, 2 Oct 98 20:21:45 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:19265 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <5774-7481>; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 21:19:06 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154475-22414>; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 09:17:40 -0400 Received: from hillhead.cent.gla.ac.uk ([130.209.16.101]:45028 "EHLO jess.gla.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154566-22414>; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 09:17:15 -0400 Received: from lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk ([130.209.16.18]) by jess.gla.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.01 #1) id 0zP9fs-0007SI-00; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 19:11:28 +0100 Received: from localhost (9606585c@localhost) by lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk (8.8.4/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA28019; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 19:11:25 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 19:11:24 +0100 (BST) From: James Craig <9606585c@udcf.gla.ac.uk> X-Sender: 9606585c@lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk To: Dave Gilbert cc: "Neil A. Carson" , Russell King - ARM Linux Admin , Philip Blundell , linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: PCI IDE HD performance figures (lack of)? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1317 Lines: 29 On Fri, 2 Oct 1998, Dave Gilbert wrote: > On Fri, 2 Oct 1998, Neil A. Carson wrote: > > > To e frank, > > > > (and brief as I'm still in Hon gKong now) we've found that with *BSD, the > > PIO performance of StronARM sucks too. I thought this may have been kernel > > overheads but mayeb not. Using UltraDMA with the Promise, we get around > > 10MB/sec at least,w hcih is pretty cool (went down to 8 recently for some > > reason AFAIR). Using PIO, though, we are lucky to touch 4MB/sec, even > > 32-bit mode 4. This is wierd as my PCI doing PIO mode 4 32-bit can do > > (SORRY-16 BIT!) can do 8 MB/sec or something like that. Certainly 6.5-7. > > Something wierd is happening here; Alpha's suffer from the same problem; > my 533MHz Alpha could only do about 2MB/s off the EIDE disc without DMA; > turn DMA on and you get around 6MB/s (off an old disc at that). > > So its not just an ARM related problem. *definately* not. It does exactly the same on my K6-233. The timings are roughly the same on one of my drives - don't remember which one now, and I haven't really got the time to mess about testing them all - but I get broadly similar effects anyway. -- James Craig <9606585c@udcf.gla.ac.uk> unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Oct 3 01:30:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA02128 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 01:30:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id BAA29809 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 01:30:31 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma029802; Sat, 3 Oct 98 01:30:00 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:15976 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <6755-8011>; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 02:27:33 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <155130-22414>; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 14:32:19 -0400 Received: from mailhub.Stanford.EDU ([171.64.14.35]:44352 "EHLO mailhub.Stanford.EDU" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <155052-22414>; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 14:30:12 -0400 Received: from stanford.edu (ssdl-saturn.Stanford.EDU [36.6.0.102]) by mailhub.Stanford.EDU (8.8.8/8.8.8/L) with ESMTP id QAA02172 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:24:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3615610F.CEF17ECD@stanford.edu> Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 16:26:07 -0700 From: Zsolt Kiraly X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: The ARM Debug Monitor: Angel Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------E51F82D8840F335AD03FBE93" X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 9980 Lines: 294 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------E51F82D8840F335AD03FBE93 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi there, For you Angel hackers, here is the ARM Angel web-page. But you probably knew about this already... http://www.arm.com/Documentation/Overviews/Angel/ Zsolt -- Zsolt Kiraly Department of Aeronautics & Astronautics Stanford University --------------E51F82D8840F335AD03FBE93 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Base: "http://www.arm.com/Documentation/Overv iews/Angel/" The ARM Debug Monitor: Angel
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Introduction

Angel is the debug monitor program for ARM processors, as supplied with the ARM Development Board as well as many other boards from ARM's semiconductor and tools partners.

It provides the following services to the developer:

  • debug capability, including memory inspection, image download and execution, breakpointing and single step
  • CPU and board startup and basic exception handling
  • a full ANSI C library, using semihosting to provide services from the host which are not available on the target
  • a full source distribution, allowing developers a kickstart in developing stand-alone applications
Angel interfaces with the ARM Software Development Toolkit (SDT) in two ways:
  • the interface library "Remote_A" is used by debuggers to communicate with an Angel target when debugging or executing code.
  • application code uses software interrupt (SWI) calls to request services of Angel either directly or via the toolkit's C library.
Communication between the debugger and the target, over serial/parallel or Ethernet links, uses a protocol called the Angel Debug Protocol (ADP) defined in the following 2 documents (available here soon):
  • Angel Debug Protocol Specification (DUI 0052A)
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  • Angel Debug Protocol Messages Specification (DUI 0053A)
The Ethernet enabled build of Angel includes the Fusion TCP/IP stack from Pacific Softworks and is available from ARM as a separate Ethernet Adaptor Kit for the ARM Development Board.

Angel Version 1.05 [Beta release]

This is the latest, Beta version of Angel. The final release will be shipped with the next version of the Software Development Toolkit. This release introduces better operation in supervisor mode, and makes the use of application SWIs, IRQs and FIQs more robust. It is thus now possible to single step interrupt service routines, and use applications which use supervisor mode in combination with interrupts.

Angel Version 1.04

This is the version of Angel as shipped with SDT 2.11a.

EmbeddedICE Firmware (ICEagent v2.07)

A variant of Angel is also built into the EmbeddedICE interface unit, which is available from ARM as a separate product.

ROM images are available for download. EmbeddedICE is an alternative debugging system that does not require the target to be running a debug monitor program. It is available for many ARM processors (e.g. ARM7TDMI), is less intrusive on the application code, does not require target resources and allows breakpointing on ROM.

Version History

Angel has been part of the ARM Software Development Toolkit since version 2.10. ARM have released the following versions of Angel for the ARM Development Board and the EmbeddedICE interface unit:
SDT Release Angel
Version		 EmbeddedICE
Version		 Notes
2.10 1.00 2.01 Initial release
2.02 Low voltage targets enabled
1.01 2.03 Beta release of v2.04
2.11 1.02 2.04 Minor changes to JTAG code, heartbeats
1.03 2.06 Fix SWI Write0 and WriteC calls
2.11a 1.04 2.07 Improved comms reliability and structure
1.05 Improved Interrupt & SVC mode operation

Documentation

The following Angel Application Notes are available: Other documents describing Angel include:

Platforms Supported

Angel must be ported to a specific hardware configuration in order to work. Ports of Angel to the ARM Development Board and ARM60 Evaluation Board are shipped with the toolkit. Other ports can be obtained from third party manufacturers:

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Legal statement. --------------E51F82D8840F335AD03FBE93-- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Oct 3 15:12:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA13183 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 15:12:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA30982 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 15:12:35 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma030980; Sat, 3 Oct 98 15:12:16 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:27754 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10591-8011>; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 16:11:56 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <153992-22414>; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 04:15:52 -0400 Received: from mail.thefree.net ([195.34.192.14]:2770 "EHLO mail.thefree.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <153994-22414>; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 04:15:40 -0400 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 03 Oct 1998 13:11:02 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from loopback [195.34.195.208] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 03 Oct 1998 13:11:01 0000 Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1998 13:23:49 +0100 From: Chris Sawer To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Three questions... Message-ID: <40873a8f48%root@usa.net> In-Reply-To: Reply-To: chris.sawer@usa.net X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40d for RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60m X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 962 Lines: 31 In message Philip Blundell wrote: > >3. I'm /still/ trying to compile The Gimp, but my recompiled (statically > >linked) ld from Binutils 2.8 gives this error: > > > >ld: memory violation at pc=0x00031700, lr=0x6001ba80 > >(bad address=0x00000004, code 3) > >gcc: Internal compiler error: program ld got fatal signal 11 > > > >Does anyone understand this at all? > > The linker tried to dereference NULL. I'm afraid that I'm not that technical - does this mean there is a problem with the linker, with the files I'm trying to link, or something else? I've just had an identical error trying to compile Lesstif. Thanks in advance, Chris -- Chris Sawer - Worthing, Sussex, England http://members.xoom.com/chrissawer/ E-Mail: chris.sawer@usa.net, ICQ: 15010147 PGP public key available on request unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Oct 3 15:13:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA13182 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 15:12:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA30977 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 15:12:05 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma030975; Sat, 3 Oct 98 15:11:58 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:27754 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10920-18301>; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 16:11:47 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <153990-22414>; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 04:15:42 -0400 Received: from post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.27]:37656 "EHLO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <153992-22414>; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 04:15:21 -0400 Received: from [194.222.203.84] (helo=merton-house.demon.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.03 #1) id 0zPRSH-0007bx-00 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 13:10:38 +0000 Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1998 14:09:54 +0100 From: Matt Nicholls To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: XForms Message-ID: <98bf3e8f48%matt@merton-house.demon.co.uk> Reply-To: matt@merton-house.demon.co.uk X-Organization: Matt Nicholls X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40d for RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60m X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 430 Lines: 13 Is there a version of the XForms library for ARM Linux??? I looked on the website, but could only find binary distributions. -- __ __ _ _ | \/ |__ _| |_| |_ matt@merton-house.demon.co.uk | |\/| / _` | _| _| www.altern.org/dhcomet/ |_| |_\__,_|\__|\__| ICQ UIN : 15479212 Back up my hard disc? I can't find the reverse switch unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Oct 3 17:26:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA14896 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 17:26:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA31161 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 17:26:35 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma031159; Sat, 3 Oct 98 17:26:13 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:65090 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10421-18301>; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 18:24:31 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154028-22414>; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 06:28:20 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:3101 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <154045-22414>; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 06:26:57 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0zPTMF-0003eJ-00; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 16:12:31 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: chris.sawer@usa.net cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Three questions... In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 03 Oct 1998 13:23:49 BST." <40873a8f48%root@usa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1998 16:12:31 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 482 Lines: 15 Chris Sawer wrote: >In message > Philip Blundell wrote: >> The linker tried to dereference NULL. > >I'm afraid that I'm not that technical - does this mean there is a problem >with the linker, with the files I'm trying to link, or something else? It's a linker bug. If you can send me a test case I'll see if I can find the problem. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Oct 4 17:17:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA39155 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 17:17:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA01371 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 17:17:11 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma001369; Sun, 4 Oct 98 17:16:41 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:13594 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10577-21614>; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 18:14:33 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154333-23279>; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 06:08:58 -0400 Received: from post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.27]:48142 "EHLO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154375-23279>; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 06:06:40 -0400 Received: from [158.152.82.160] (helo=ballsy.demon.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.03 #1) id 0zPpk1-0001nx-00; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 15:06:33 +0000 Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 18:59:27 +0100 (BST) From: Jonathan Balls Subject: Re: Binary Archive && AfterStep To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu cc: clark-tj@ee.uwa.edu.au In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: Organisation name, location. Telephone/Fax? X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.46] X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1137 Lines: 40 On Wed 30 Sep, Chris Sawer wrote: > In message > Tom Clarkson wrote: > > > I have been trying to install Afterstep from the RPM and from source > > code, and having trouble, and it occured to me that is anyone had already > > posted the binary on an archive then I was wasting my time. I have just installed AfterSep 1.4 RPM without any problems. I did this (althought it is probally not the best way):- rpm -i afterstep-1.4.rpm cd /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES gzip -cd After-1.4.tgz | tar xvf - cd AfterStep Then followed the instructions which go something like:- ./config xmkmf make Makefiles make Its now working fine on my SA RPC now Jonathan -- . -- . ICQ UIN: 15462748 ( ) Big-Bird aka. Jonathan Balls ( /oo\ ) Please visit my website ( \''/ ) http://www.ballsy.demon.co.uk/ (_\/_) Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. "No" is the answer! unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Oct 4 05:14:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA24677 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 05:14:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id FAA32158 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 05:14:34 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma032156; Sun, 4 Oct 98 05:14:07 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:49529 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <6867-29110>; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 06:10:38 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154187-22414>; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 18:11:51 -0400 Received: from fleming.jimpick.com ([204.209.212.123]:31898 "EHLO fleming.jimpick.com" ident: "jim") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154252-22414>; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 18:07:09 -0400 Received: (from jim@localhost) by fleming.jimpick.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/Debian/GNU) id UAA31453; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 20:03:37 -0700 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, general@netwinder.org Subject: Intel, StrongARM, Linux, WinCE, Red Hat, Corel X-Url: http://www.jimpick.com/ Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Jim Pick Date: 03 Oct 1998 20:03:34 -0700 In-Reply-To: Chris Rijk's message of "Fri, 2 Oct 1998 14:45:55 +0100 (BST)" Message-ID: <8790ixjaex.fsf@fleming.jimpick.com> X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.27/XEmacs 20.4 - "Emerald" X-Face: Hz"C77\53<,u1}C~=DFwS#Ddj161XLl6W!3g7xjxh*P'`FF^-IYQXX$a*WC~=^8rvy"~<3z UeQqGo&KZe[}lJg`\+SDMGRVIUJ~P,#(=w~yYv{g9i%"k|\J|jYVvv^Bzfwo=@AddrDMO Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA34925 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 14:32:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA00222 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 14:32:38 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma000220; Sun, 4 Oct 98 14:32:17 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:63520 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11181-29110>; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 15:29:55 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154277-20448>; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 03:24:15 -0400 Received: from mail2.thefree.net ([195.34.192.5]:4474 "HELO mail2.thefree.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <154299-20448>; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 03:16:03 -0400 Received: from mail.thefree.net [195.34.192.14] by mail2.thefree.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-4.06) id A0EC4BE60224; Sun, 04 Oct 1998 10:41:48 +00d0 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sun, 04 Oct 1998 11:41:51 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from loopback [195.34.197.236] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sun, 04 Oct 1998 11:41:49 0000 Date: Sun, 04 Oct 1998 12:37:57 +0100 From: Chris Sawer To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Three questions... Message-ID: <8f2aba8f48%root@usa.net> In-Reply-To: Reply-To: chris.sawer@usa.net X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40d for RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60m X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 1450 Lines: 37 In message Philip Blundell wrote: > >In message > > Philip Blundell wrote: > >> The linker tried to dereference NULL. > > It's a linker bug. If you can send me a test case I'll see if I can find > the problem. Basically what I've done is downloaded the BinUtils source 2.9.1 and 2.8 (over a 28.8 modem - ouch!). Trying to compile ld from 2.9.1 statically seemed to work, but it refused to link my .o files saying they were in an unrecognized format. The same thing happens when compiling 2.8 without the patch - I think it's because you can't specify the host arm-unknown-gnuaout, only ending in -aout. I managed to compile 2.8, using the Arm patch (which I don't seem to be able to find any more - is it necessary?) from the ArmLinux ftp site - which is the one which crashes. Are there any patches for 2.9.1, or is there another way of trying to get that to work? I really can't face another 5Mb+ download... Thanks for all your help, Chris PS. Does anyone have a statically linked ld that works that they could send me? It would save a lot of hassle. -- Chris Sawer - Worthing, Sussex, England http://members.xoom.com/chrissawer/ E-Mail: chris.sawer@usa.net, ICQ: 15010147 PGP public key available on request unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Oct 4 15:42:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA36018 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 15:42:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA01191 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 15:42:11 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma001179; Sun, 4 Oct 98 15:41:55 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:24113 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10807-29110>; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 16:41:31 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154377-23279>; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 04:22:15 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1171 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154380-23279>; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 04:15:23 -0400 Received: (from alan@localhost) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) id OAA15208; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 14:22:48 +0100 From: Alan Cox Message-Id: <199810041322.OAA15208@snowcrash.cymru.net> Subject: Re: PCI IDE HD performance figures (lack of)? To: gilbertd@treblig.org (Dave Gilbert) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 14:22:45 +0100 (BST) Cc: neil@causality.com, linux@arm.uk.linux.org, pb@nexus.co.uk, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Dave Gilbert" at Oct 2, 98 06:17:15 pm Content-Type: text X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 471 Lines: 8 > Something wierd is happening here; Alpha's suffer from the same problem; > my 533MHz Alpha could only do about 2MB/s off the EIDE disc without DMA; > turn DMA on and you get around 6MB/s (off an old disc at that). Similar to a lot of PC figures. DMA mode is equivalent to the highest PIO modes and many controllers only support those modes in DMA form. UDMA is faster than PIO modes full stop unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Oct 4 19:38:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA42081 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 19:38:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA01629 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 19:38:11 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma001618; Sun, 4 Oct 98 19:37:43 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:57904 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <7036-29110>; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 20:37:27 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154229-23279>; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 08:35:00 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:3424 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <154088-23279>; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 08:34:35 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0zPoaI-0005nX-00; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 14:52:26 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: chris.sawer@usa.net cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Three questions... In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 04 Oct 1998 12:37:57 BST." <8f2aba8f48%root@usa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 04 Oct 1998 14:52:25 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 552 Lines: 16 >Are there any patches for 2.9.1, or is there another way of trying to get >that to work? I really can't face another 5Mb+ download... Did you apply HJ's 2.9.1.x patches? Stock 2.9.1 almost certainly doesn't do the right thing. If not you can get the patches from sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/Linux/GCC/private/ tofu. You need to get all the appropriate diff files and apply them one after the other. Once you've got 2.9.1.0.14 if you still have trouble then let me know. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Oct 4 16:12:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA36507 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 16:12:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA01268 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 16:12:11 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma001266; Sun, 4 Oct 98 16:11:47 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:56952 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10667-29110>; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 17:11:20 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154321-23279>; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 04:39:03 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1865 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154455-23279>; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 04:35:48 -0400 Received: (from alan@localhost) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) id PAA15929; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 15:05:13 +0100 From: Alan Cox Message-Id: <199810041405.PAA15929@snowcrash.cymru.net> Subject: Re: Debian ports for RiscPC, ARM710, etc. To: altman@chaos.org.uk Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 15:05:13 +0100 (BST) Cc: 9606585c@udcf.gla.ac.uk, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Hugo Fiennes" at Sep 29, 98 12:28:19 pm Content-Type: text X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 394 Lines: 10 > (holdups on the Psion5 port: mainly, the chips they use are organised in > such a way that you only get 512k contiguous with MMU off. Kernel wasn't > happy running in that sort of space when last tried :-( So keep the MMU on 8) head.S can create a virtually mapped kernel and thats been done for other platforms. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Oct 4 17:35:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA40283 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 17:35:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA01413 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 17:35:10 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma001411; Sun, 4 Oct 98 17:34:44 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:3185 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <6781-21614>; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 18:33:46 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154375-23279>; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 06:32:01 -0400 Received: from mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com ([157.161.173.16]:8418 "EHLO mail.core.genedata.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <153857-23279>; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 06:26:58 -0400 Received: from relay.ch.genedata.com (pinatubo.ch.genedata.com [157.161.173.32]) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA01389; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 17:27:00 +0200 Received: from mencheca.ch.genedata.com (root@mencheca.ch.genedata.com [157.161.173.204]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA39282; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 17:26:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: by genedata.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.101) for chris.sawer@usa.net; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 17:27:04 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <19981004172704.A11511@genedata.com> Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 17:27:04 +0200 From: Matthew Wilcox To: chris.sawer@usa.net, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Three questions... References: <8f2aba8f48%root@usa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.2 In-Reply-To: <8f2aba8f48%root@usa.net>; from Chris Sawer on Sun, Oct 04, 1998 at 12:37:57PM +0100 X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1261 Lines: 22 On Sun, Oct 04, 1998 at 12:37:57PM +0100, Chris Sawer wrote: > Basically what I've done is downloaded the BinUtils source 2.9.1 and 2.8 > (over a 28.8 modem - ouch!). Trying to compile ld from 2.9.1 statically > seemed to work, but it refused to link my .o files saying they were in an > unrecognized format. The same thing happens when compiling 2.8 without the > patch - I think it's because you can't specify the host arm-unknown-gnuaout, > only ending in -aout. Hmm. This seems to be a common mistake; can anyone suggest a good way of making sure people know about it? You need to have a version of the binutils which knows about armlinux; the stock GNU binutils 2.9.1 do not. I believe there's a binutils 2.9.1.0.7 on sunsite.unc.edu, or one of its mirrors. The good news for you is that there's a 100k diff file available: ftp://sunsite.org.uk/Mirrors/sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/GCC/binutils-2.9.1-2.9.1.0.7.diff.gz -- Matthew Wilcox "I decry the current tendency to seek patents on algorithms. There are better ways to earn a living than to prevent other people from making use of one's contributions to computer science." -- Donald E. Knuth, TAoCP vol 3 unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From philb@gnu.org Sun Oct 4 19:41:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA42094 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 19:41:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA01646 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 19:41:41 +0200 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk(158.152.220.239) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma001644; Sun, 4 Oct 98 19:41:25 +0200 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0zPs0E-0004VB-00; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 18:31:26 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Matthew Wilcox cc: chris.sawer@usa.net, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Three questions... In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 04 Oct 1998 17:27:04 +0200." <19981004172704.A11511@genedata.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 04 Oct 1998 18:31:25 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: Status: RO Content-Length: 374 Lines: 10 >I believe there's a binutils 2.9.1.0.7 on sunsite.unc.edu, or one of its >mirrors. The good news for you is that there's a 100k diff file available: 2.9.1.0.14 is actually the latest. I can't remember if there are any substantial changes since 2.9.1.0.7. I've actually just made a new patch against 2.9.1.0.14 but it shouldn't change anything for a.out people. p. From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Oct 4 23:23:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA45267 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 23:23:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA01916 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 23:23:42 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma001905; Sun, 4 Oct 98 23:23:28 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:30240 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10325-553>; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 00:23:15 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154493-23279>; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 12:03:49 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1368 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154477-23279>; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 11:54:13 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org ([194.168.16.77]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id WAA22445 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 22:26:27 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA11889 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 21:55:32 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id VAA06042 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 21:57:22 +0100 Message-Id: <199810042057.VAA06042@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: 2.1.123 pre-patches on FTP site To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 21:57:20 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1037 Lines: 19 Ok, for all of those interested in the development 2.1 patches, 2.1.123 is on the FTP site. EBSA285 users: please note that the kernel now uses the ram size specs in the 'params' structure rather than a fixed 16MB. With the old boot loader (BOOTP), you should notice no difference. However, with my new loader (going through the proving stages) it should autodetect the amount of RAM. CATS users: this change also impacts you, but I don't know how much. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Oct 5 01:30:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA47004 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 01:30:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id BAA02125 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 01:30:12 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma002121; Mon, 5 Oct 98 01:29:59 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:28461 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10594-553>; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 02:29:31 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154532-23279>; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 13:49:02 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:3494 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <154650-23279>; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 12:44:27 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0zPvpO-0001On-00; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 22:36:30 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: scottb@corelcomputer.com, jim@jimpick.com cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: new tools Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 04 Oct 1998 22:36:30 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 2237 Lines: 45 Hi, I put some new patches in vger.rutgers.edu:/pub/gcc/arm. They're the ones with "981004" in the filenames. 1) a new patch against egcs-1.1b. This adds support (sort of) for ELF on 26-bit machines, has a half-baked implementation of -mapcs-float and various other bits and pieces. You probably need the binutils patch below to make this work. I'm planning to try to get at least some of this into the egcs mainline soon. 2) a new patch against binutils-2.9.1.0.14. This also has changes for 26-bit ELF. Also, the assembler now knows how to put flags into object files describing what sort of thing they are, so the linker can complain if you start trying to mix files with different calling conventions or the like. I also deleted aoutarm32.c. Hopefully I managed to put all the a.out/PIC support into aout-arm.c first. :-) Theoretically then this will work for NetBSD as well if anybody wants to try it. 3) a small patch against glibc (no version in particular). The interesting bit of this is the signal.c change. I'd like to hear opinions on it before I put it into the main sources. The elf.h change is trivial and just included to make the patch look more impressive. All this stuff is rampantly untested, so as usual you should be prepared for all manner of bad things to happen if you use it. I did a bit of fiddling around to get the linker to delete some internal symbols from final objects. They don't get taken out of object files because this turns out to be harder to arrange. There is some problem with the assembler that results in a lot of spurious labels called "L0^A" or some such and these don't currently get deleted either. If you build gcc as "armv2-linux" it should default to giving you the 26-bit ELF variant. You can build binutils with that configuration too, it doesn't care. Regardless of which variant you end up with as the default you can always select the other one with the -mapcs option to GCC; the tools are actually the same. Note that 26-bit ELF probably doesn't actually work yet but a few people have made noises that implied they might be willing to play with it. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Oct 5 01:29:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA47273 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 01:29:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id BAA02118 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 01:29:12 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma002116; Mon, 5 Oct 98 01:29:00 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:28461 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10731-23870>; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 02:28:20 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154243-23279>; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 13:49:37 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:3502 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <154670-23279>; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 12:48:44 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0zPvuD-0001RM-00; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 22:41:29 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: 2.1.123 pre-patches on FTP site In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 04 Oct 1998 21:57:20 BST." <199810042057.VAA06042@raistlin.armlinux.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 04 Oct 1998 22:41:29 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 315 Lines: 10 >CATS users: this change also impacts you, but I don't know how much. Probably not much. We don't currently have a native CATS bootloader and so the kernels I build all use builtin settings rather than looking for a params block. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Oct 5 06:51:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA51464 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 06:51:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA02573 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 06:51:48 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma002571; Mon, 5 Oct 98 06:51:24 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:7798 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <6863-23870>; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 07:49:56 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <153911-23279>; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 19:34:09 -0400 Received: from [210.154.37.2] ([210.154.37.2]:22798 "EHLO funai-tky.co.jp" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <155264-23279>; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 19:17:49 -0400 Received: from hiropu ([192.168.1.19]) by funai-tky.co.jp (8.9.1/3.7Wpr7-98092916) with SMTP id NAA17489; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 13:22:07 +0900 Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 13:28:12 +0900 From: Hiroshi Ishii To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, armlinux Subject: ping binary(aout) is good working? Message-Id: <36184ADC111.358EHIROSHI@mail.funai-tky.co.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.24.14 X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 979 Lines: 30 Hi! I try to "ping localhost" , in brutus-linux , but no response. Stop at bellow state ; PING localhost (127.0.0.1) :56 data bytes kernel version is 2.0.30. I got "ping" binary from armlinux ftp site. Of course , I'm setting "TCP/IP networking" is yes. And setting; /sbin/ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1 /sbin/route add -net 127.0.0.0 netmask 255.0.0.0 lo "ifconfig -a " showing; lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Bcast:127.255.255.255 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP BROADCAST LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3584 Metric:1 RX packets:75 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:75 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 coll:0 I think setup is complete. "Ping" is broken? or brutus-linux has not implement TCP/IP yet? -------------------------------------- Funai Electric Engineering Co.,LTD -Hiroshi Ishii unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Oct 5 07:23:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA52145 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 07:23:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA02642 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 07:23:48 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma002640; Mon, 5 Oct 98 07:23:39 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:1561 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <6676-23870>; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 08:22:22 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154650-23279>; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 19:57:36 -0400 Received: from mail2.digital.com ([204.123.2.56]:3310 "EHLO mail2.digital.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <155294-23279>; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 19:54:59 -0400 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail2.digital.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/WV1.0g) with SMTP id VAA27137; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 21:59:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stowe.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA26202; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 21:59:18 -0700 Received: by stowe.pa.dec.com; (5.65v4.0/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id AA12922; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 21:56:14 -0700 Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 21:56:14 -0700 Message-Id: <199810050456.AA12922@stowe.pa.dec.com> From: Deborah Wallach To: hiroshi@funai-tky.co.jp Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <36184ADC111.358EHIROSHI@mail.funai-tky.co.jp> (message from Hiroshi Ishii on Mon, 05 Oct 1998 13:28:12 +0900) Subject: Re: ping binary(aout) is good working? Address: Compaq Computer Corporation; Western Research Laboratory; 250 University Avenue; Palo Alto, CA 94301; USA Phone: 650-617-3315 X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 227 Lines: 6 I don't know why you're having problems. brutus-linux definitely works with tcp/ip (we run PPP), and the ping binary works fine. -Deborah Wallach unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Oct 5 15:29:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA66919 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 15:29:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA03955 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 15:29:51 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma003952; Mon, 5 Oct 98 15:29:48 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:36903 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10317-23870>; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 16:23:11 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154062-1595>; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 04:16:22 -0400 Received: from studict.student.utwente.nl ([130.89.220.2]:3258 "EHLO studict.student.utwente.nl" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154053-1595>; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 04:16:03 -0400 Received: from poekie.test. (ut240232.inbel.utwente.nl [130.89.240.232]) by studict.student.utwente.nl (8.8.6/MQT) with ESMTP id LAA02702 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 11:19:37 +0200 (METDST) Received: from flipje.test. (mark@flipje.test [192.168.2.4]) by poekie.test. (8.8.7/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA13352 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 10:46:43 +0200 Received: (from mark@localhost) by flipje.test. (8.8.7/8.7.3) id KAA00124 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 10:46:42 +0200 Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 10:46:42 +0200 From: Mark van Doesburg Illegal-Object: Syntax error in Message-Id: value found on vger.rutgers.edu: Message-Id: <199810050846.KAA00124@flipje.test.> ^-illegal subdomain in domain, propably extra '.' at the end of the address To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: pre-patch-2.1.123-19981004 X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Message-Id: <19981005081630Z154062-1595+373@vger.rutgers.edu> Status: RO Content-Length: 220 Lines: 7 I've tried to apply this patch to a fresh 2.1.123 kernel but it complains about misordered hunks in the file fs/adfs/super.c greetings, Mark. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Oct 5 13:10:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA60898 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 13:10:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA03482 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 13:10:51 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma003480; Mon, 5 Oct 98 13:10:49 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:23362 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <6888-23870>; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 14:08:25 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154498-1595>; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 02:00:10 -0400 Received: from chaos.oregan.net ([195.173.86.1]:12289 "EHLO chaos.oregan.net" ident: "root") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154672-1595>; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 01:59:27 -0400 Received: from tiddles.oregan (oregan-cambridge.demon.co.uk [212.228.27.73]) by chaos.oregan.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id KAA05544; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 10:08:30 +0100 Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 10:03:37 +0100 From: Phil Norman To: hiroshi@funai-tky.co.jp Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ping binary(aout) is good working? Message-ID: <5edf2f9048%phil@tiddles.oregan.net> In-Reply-To: <36184ADC111.358EHIROSHI@mail.funai-tky.co.jp> X-Organization: Xania X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40d for RISC OS X-Editor: Zap, using ZapEmail =?ISO-8859-1?Q?0.21=DF?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60m X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 975 Lines: 27 In message <36184ADC111.358EHIROSHI@mail.funai-tky.co.jp> Hiroshi Ishii wrote: > I try to "ping localhost" , in brutus-linux , but no response. Stop at > bellow state ; > > PING localhost (127.0.0.1) :56 data bytes > > kernel version is 2.0.30. I got "ping" binary from armlinux > ftp site. Of course , I'm setting "TCP/IP networking" is > yes. And setting; > > /sbin/ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1 > /sbin/route add -net 127.0.0.0 netmask 255.0.0.0 lo My network configuration (which is 4 lines of shell script, rather than the huge number of config files and scripts used by redhat) doesn't bother setting up a route to localhost. The only localhost-related thing I have is: ifconfig -e lo 127.0.0.1 And if I try to ping localhost, it works fine. I don't know whether this information is helpful, but my ifconfig line may be worth a try. Good luck, Phil unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Oct 5 15:29:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA66822 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 15:29:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA03956 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 15:29:51 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xmaa03952; Mon, 5 Oct 98 15:29:49 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:36903 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10874-553>; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 16:29:27 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154617-1595>; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 04:20:24 -0400 Received: from post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.27]:63133 "EHLO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154652-1595>; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 04:19:17 -0400 Received: from [158.152.30.195] (helo=globe.nexus.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.03 #1) id 0zQAD7-00019y-00 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 12:57:58 +0000 Received: from [192.0.0.3] (helo=spring.nexus.co.uk ident=exim) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 0zQA7g-0008Ms-00; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 13:52:20 +0100 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=spring.nexus.co.uk ident=pb) by spring.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 0zQA7X-0007MO-00; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 13:52:11 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Phil Norman cc: hiroshi@funai-tky.co.jp, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ping binary(aout) is good working? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 05 Oct 1998 10:03:37 BST." <5edf2f9048%phil@tiddles.oregan.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 13:52:10 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 200 Lines: 9 >ifconfig -e lo 127.0.0.1 I don't think "-e" is an option that ifconfig understands - it'll just silently ignore it. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Oct 5 21:45:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA75618 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 21:45:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA04814 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 21:45:21 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma004812; Mon, 5 Oct 98 21:44:58 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:13167 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10596-23870>; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 22:41:50 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154921-9975>; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 08:58:42 -0400 Received: from chaos.oregan.net ([195.173.86.1]:24653 "EHLO chaos.oregan.net" ident: "root") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <155429-9975>; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 07:56:38 -0400 Received: from tiddles.oregan (oregan-cambridge.demon.co.uk [212.228.27.73]) by chaos.oregan.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA12244; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 14:09:35 +0100 Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 14:08:15 +0100 From: Phil Norman To: pb@nexus.co.uk Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ping binary(aout) is good working? Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Xania X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40d for RISC OS X-Editor: Zap, using ZapEmail =?ISO-8859-1?Q?0.21=DF?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60m X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 477 Lines: 15 In message Philip Blundell wrote: > >ifconfig -e lo 127.0.0.1 > > I don't think "-e" is an option that ifconfig understands - it'll just > silently ignore it. Ah. Well, this was stolen from my RiscOS setup (which uses BSD-based things); it seemed to want it, so I assumed linux would too. Well, it works anyway ;-). Cheers, Phil unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Oct 5 20:50:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA74962 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 20:50:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA04695 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 20:50:21 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma004693; Mon, 5 Oct 98 20:50:13 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:13167 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <6609-553>; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 21:48:24 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154397-9975>; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 08:40:16 -0400 Received: from post-11.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.40]:48766 "EHLO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154829-9975>; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 07:04:58 -0400 Received: from [158.152.30.195] (helo=globe.nexus.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.03 #1) id 0zQB7J-0007cb-00 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 13:56:01 +0000 Received: from [192.0.0.3] (helo=spring.nexus.co.uk ident=exim) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 0zQAvo-0008RH-00; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 14:44:08 +0100 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=spring.nexus.co.uk ident=pb) by spring.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 0zQAvg-0007S3-00; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 14:44:00 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Mark van Doesburg cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: pre-patch-2.1.123-19981004 In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 05 Oct 1998 10:46:42 +0200." <19981005081630Z154062-1595+373@vger.rutgers.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 14:43:59 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 380 Lines: 11 >I've tried to apply this patch to a fresh 2.1.123 kernel but it complains >about misordered hunks in the file fs/adfs/super.c That can happen if your version of "patch" is too old. I got one reject in that file but it was only a trivial change and I didn't bother looking into it too closely. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Oct 5 22:36:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA72264 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 22:36:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA04916 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 22:36:51 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma004914; Mon, 5 Oct 98 22:36:25 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:12305 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <6415-23870>; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 23:33:56 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154780-9975>; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 10:10:45 -0400 Received: from post-12.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.41]:52957 "EHLO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154877-9975>; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 08:53:04 -0400 Received: from [193.237.23.100] (helo=gate.sw.milldev.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.03 #1) id 0zQC7t-00044i-00; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 15:00:42 +0000 Received: from florence.sw.milldev.co.uk (florence.sw.milldev.co.uk [192.168.0.6]) by gate.sw.milldev.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA31272; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 15:57:50 +0100 From: Russell King Received: (from rmk@localhost) by florence.sw.milldev.co.uk (8.8.5/8.7.3) id PAA07362; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 15:57:49 +0100 Message-Id: <199810051457.PAA07362@florence.sw.milldev.co.uk> Subject: Re: pre-patch-2.1.123-19981004 To: m.j.s.vandoesburg@student.utwente.nl (Mark van Doesburg) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 15:57:48 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <19981005081630Z154062-1595+373@vger.rutgers.edu> from "Mark van Doesburg" at Oct 5, 98 10:46:42 am Content-Type: text X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 631 Lines: 15 Mark van Doesburg said: > I've tried to apply this patch to a fresh 2.1.123 kernel but it complains about > misordered hunks in the file fs/adfs/super.c Well, I believe that my original reference fs/adfs/super.c is identical to what is in Linus' tree, but I could be wrong. I have checked this before, and have found nothing wrong. Could someone sum this file in Linus' original tree and send me (rmk@arm.uk.linux.org) the result please? If this is not done, then all my patches will be broken from now on. -- Russell King (rmk@milldev.demon.co.uk) unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Oct 6 02:10:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA80012 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 02:10:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id CAA05299 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 02:10:21 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma005297; Tue, 6 Oct 98 02:10:18 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:19728 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11064-25561>; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 03:09:27 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154213-9975>; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 13:52:10 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1956 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154954-9975>; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 12:40:05 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (galatea-12.cableol.net [194.168.16.12]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id WAA18243; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 22:37:24 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA12804; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 19:47:28 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id TAA00415; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 19:50:07 +0100 Message-Id: <199810051850.TAA00415@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: ping binary(aout) is good working? To: hiroshi@funai-tky.co.jp (Hiroshi Ishii) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 19:50:07 +0100 (BST) Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <36184ADC111.358EHIROSHI@mail.funai-tky.co.jp> from "Hiroshi Ishii" at Oct 5, 98 01:28:12 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1272 Lines: 27 Hiroshi Ishii writes: > kernel version is 2.0.30. I got "ping" binary from armlinux > ftp site. Of course , I'm setting "TCP/IP networking" is > yes. And setting; > > /sbin/ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1 > /sbin/route add -net 127.0.0.0 netmask 255.0.0.0 lo > > "ifconfig -a " showing; > > lo Link encap:Local Loopback > inet addr:127.0.0.1 Bcast:127.255.255.255 Mask:255.0.0.0 > UP BROADCAST LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3584 Metric:1 > RX packets:75 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > TX packets:75 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 coll:0 What does the 'route' command show? This looks ok, and it appears to be sending/receiving the packets. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Oct 6 02:33:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA80344 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 02:33:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id CAA05338 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 02:33:51 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma005336; Tue, 6 Oct 98 02:33:43 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:60443 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10532-11773>; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 03:33:27 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154181-9975>; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 14:10:06 -0400 Received: from lizard.u-net.net ([195.102.240.251]:50315 "EHLO serv1.is1.u-net.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <155103-9975>; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 12:49:59 -0400 Received: from [194.119.175.102] (helo=oac.u-net.com) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu id 0zQJaY-0005mD-00; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 22:58:46 +0000 Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 22:56:26 +0100 From: Rob Davis To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: gmake and Netscape Message-ID: <26a0769048%rob@oac.u-net.com> Reply-To: rob.davis@oaci.org X-Organization: OAC Ministries X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40d for RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60m X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 782 Lines: 15 Firstly, I notice from trying to compile Arena that it's after a program called gmake instead of make.. What is the difference, and if I should have gmake, where and what is it? Also, I had a look at the Netscape sources which purport to compile on Linux. Would these work on Armlinux? Would someone with enough memory be able to compile them? They need the Motif libraries, but can these be used to compile stand alone executables? -- Rob Davis OAC Ministries, British Registered Charity, 295432 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Homepage: http://www.oac.u-net.com Mobile: 0973 359577 (SMS welcome) rob.davis@oaci.org (Rob.. At the house) unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Oct 6 08:58:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA85652 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 08:58:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA05934 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 08:58:25 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma005932; Tue, 6 Oct 98 08:58:00 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:35894 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <6898-11773>; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 09:55:50 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154184-29396>; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 21:21:35 -0400 Received: from rzcomm1.rz.tu-bs.de ([134.169.9.107]:1827 "EHLO rzcomm1.rz.tu-bs.de" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154322-29396>; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 20:37:14 -0400 Received: from y0001006 (ppp371.ts.rz.tu-bs.de [134.169.243.71]) by rzcomm1.rz.tu-bs.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id HAA03301 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 07:25:05 +0200 (METDST) Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 07:11:12 +0200 From: Thomas Boroske To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: ARMLinux on Powertec SCSI ver. 1 ? Message-ID: <56e9e9048%y0001006@tu-bs.de> Reply-To: T.Boroske@tu-bs.de X-Organization: Home X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40b for RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60m X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 392 Lines: 15 Subject says it all: Can I use a Powertec SCSI host adapter as my main/only disc interface ? The webpages say it's supported with DMA. How fast ? Is it stable ? Also, what about Rev. J/K SAs. I've got one of those, is it a big problem with ARMLinux ? Thanks for any answers. Kind regards, -- Thomas Boroske unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Oct 6 09:43:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA87213 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 09:43:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA06089 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 09:43:25 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma006085; Tue, 6 Oct 98 09:43:13 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:27492 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <7016-11773>; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 10:41:22 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154267-29396>; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 22:18:02 -0400 Received: from mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com ([157.161.173.16]:20771 "EHLO mail.core.genedata.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154322-29396>; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 21:54:23 -0400 Received: from relay.ch.genedata.com (pinatubo.ch.genedata.com [157.161.173.32]) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA05963; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 09:06:45 +0200 Received: from mencheca.ch.genedata.com (root@mencheca.ch.genedata.com [157.161.173.204]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA86241; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 09:06:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: by genedata.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.101) for rob.davis@oaci.org; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 09:06:50 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <19981006090650.L11511@genedata.com> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 09:06:50 +0200 From: Matthew Wilcox To: rob.davis@oaci.org, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: gmake and Netscape References: <26a0769048%rob@oac.u-net.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.2 In-Reply-To: <26a0769048%rob@oac.u-net.com>; from Rob Davis on Mon, Oct 05, 1998 at 10:56:26PM +0100 X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1287 Lines: 25 On Mon, Oct 05, 1998 at 10:56:26PM +0100, Rob Davis wrote: > Firstly, I notice from trying to compile Arena that it's after a > program called gmake instead of make.. What is the difference, and > if I should have gmake, where and what is it? gmake is GNU make - which is what you have installed as make. If you want you can create an alias for it, or you can sort out Arena's configuration files properly. pmake is 4.4BSD make which has a totally different syntax, but you don't find many programs which require pmake. > Also, I had a look at the Netscape sources which purport to compile > on Linux. Would these work on Armlinux? Would someone with enough > memory be able to compile them? They need the Motif libraries, but > can these be used to compile stand alone executables? Several people have had a go at an arm-aout netscape; it's really not worth it. Wait for ELF. To be fair, it's really Motif that's the problem, not netscape. -- Matthew Wilcox "I decry the current tendency to seek patents on algorithms. There are better ways to earn a living than to prevent other people from making use of one's contributions to computer science." -- Donald E. Knuth, TAoCP vol 3 unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Oct 6 09:49:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA87614 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 09:49:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA06103 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 09:49:25 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma006100; Tue, 6 Oct 98 09:49:19 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:27492 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <6718-11773>; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 10:46:54 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154078-29396>; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 22:18:43 -0400 Received: from mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com ([157.161.173.16]:22066 "EHLO mail.core.genedata.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154631-29396>; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 22:10:20 -0400 Received: from relay.ch.genedata.com (pinatubo.ch.genedata.com [157.161.173.32]) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA06031; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 09:22:50 +0200 Received: from mencheca.ch.genedata.com (root@mencheca.ch.genedata.com [157.161.173.204]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA85995; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 09:22:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: by genedata.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.101) for T.Boroske@tu-bs.de; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 09:22:56 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <19981006092256.M11511@genedata.com> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 09:22:56 +0200 From: Matthew Wilcox To: T.Boroske@tu-bs.de, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ARMLinux on Powertec SCSI ver. 1 ? References: <56e9e9048%y0001006@tu-bs.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.2 In-Reply-To: <56e9e9048%y0001006@tu-bs.de>; from Thomas Boroske on Tue, Oct 06, 1998 at 07:11:12AM +0200 X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 632 Lines: 13 On Tue, Oct 06, 1998 at 07:11:12AM +0200, Thomas Boroske wrote: > Also, what about Rev. J/K SAs. I've got one of those, is it > a big problem with ARMLinux ? It ought to be, but it isn't. By coincidence, ARMLinux seems to not provoke the same bug that NetBSD experiences. I have no idea why. -- Matthew Wilcox "I decry the current tendency to seek patents on algorithms. There are better ways to earn a living than to prevent other people from making use of one's contributions to computer science." -- Donald E. Knuth, TAoCP vol 3 unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Oct 6 09:49:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA87160 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 09:49:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA06104 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 09:49:25 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xmaa06100; Tue, 6 Oct 98 09:49:20 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:27492 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <6863-11773>; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 10:47:54 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154155-29396>; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 22:18:52 -0400 Received: from mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com ([157.161.173.16]:22557 "EHLO mail.core.genedata.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154644-29396>; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 22:14:29 -0400 Received: from relay.ch.genedata.com (pinatubo.ch.genedata.com [157.161.173.32]) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA06044; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 09:27:01 +0200 Received: from mencheca.ch.genedata.com (root@mencheca.ch.genedata.com [157.161.173.204]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA86945; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 09:27:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: by genedata.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.101) for rmk@arm.uk.linux.org; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 09:27:07 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <19981006092707.N11511@genedata.com> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 09:27:07 +0200 From: Matthew Wilcox To: Russell King Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: pre-patch-2.1.123-19981004 References: <19981005081630Z154062-1595+373@vger.rutgers.edu> <199810051457.PAA07362@florence.sw.milldev.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.2 In-Reply-To: <199810051457.PAA07362@florence.sw.milldev.co.uk>; from Russell King on Mon, Oct 05, 1998 at 03:57:48PM +0100 X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 926 Lines: 21 (list cc'd to prevent everyone spamming russ' mailbox ;-) > Could someone sum this file in Linus' original tree and send me (rmk@arm.uk.linux.org) > the result please? If this is not done, then all my patches will be broken from now on. mrw@mencheca:~$ grep ^SUBLEVEL /usr/tmp/linux/Makefile SUBLEVEL = 123 mrw@mencheca:~$ md5sum /usr/tmp/linux/fs/adfs/super.c 8b98491b341050d10e8fc98debfc56ff /usr/tmp/linux/fs/adfs/super.c mrw@mencheca:~$ sum /usr/tmp/linux/fs/adfs/super.c 54305 9 mrw@mencheca:~$ sum -s /usr/tmp/linux/fs/adfs/super.c 57111 18 /usr/tmp/linux/fs/adfs/super.c -- Matthew Wilcox "I decry the current tendency to seek patents on algorithms. There are better ways to earn a living than to prevent other people from making use of one's contributions to computer science." -- Donald E. Knuth, TAoCP vol 3 unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Oct 6 11:45:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA89489 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:45:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA06351 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:45:55 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma006346; Tue, 6 Oct 98 11:45:35 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:29768 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <6799-25561>; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 12:43:00 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <153869-29396>; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 00:08:49 -0400 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU ([129.94.242.29]:3247 "HELO note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU" ident: "root") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <154690-29396>; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 23:52:45 -0400 Received: From rothaus With LocalMail ; Tue, 6 Oct 98 18:10:44 +1000 From: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" To: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 18:10:43 +1000 (EST) X-Sender: awiggins@rothaus.disy.cse.unsw.EDU.AU Subject: effecient context switches on the StrongArm Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 487 Lines: 10 I think this might have come up before but i'm looking at doing some OS design for the StrongArm SA1100. The virtually taged caches are looking at being a bit of a problem for context switches. Has anyone come up with any idea's for cutting back the cost of context switches on the StrongArm? Perhaps using domains or something? I'd appriciate anyones idea or pointers to papers on the subject. Cheers Adam unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From rmk@milldev.demon.co.uk Tue Oct 6 11:46:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA89505 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:46:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA06357 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:46:24 +0200 Received: from post-11.mail.demon.net(194.217.242.40) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma006347; Tue, 6 Oct 98 11:45:56 +0200 Received: from [193.237.23.100] (helo=gate.sw.milldev.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.03 #1) id 0zQTgk-0001a7-00 for Matthew.Wilcox@genedata.com; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 09:45:51 +0000 Received: from florence.sw.milldev.co.uk (florence.sw.milldev.co.uk [192.168.0.6]) by gate.sw.milldev.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA07930 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 10:43:02 +0100 From: Russell King Received: (from rmk@localhost) by florence.sw.milldev.co.uk (8.8.5/8.7.3) id KAA07427 for Matthew.Wilcox@genedata.com; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 10:43:01 +0100 Message-Id: <199810060943.KAA07427@florence.sw.milldev.co.uk> Subject: Re: ARMLinux on Powertec SCSI ver. 1 ? To: Matthew.Wilcox@genedata.com (Matthew Wilcox) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 10:43:00 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: <19981006092256.M11511@genedata.com> from "Matthew Wilcox" at Oct 6, 98 09:22:56 am Content-Type: text Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 501 Lines: 13 Matthew Wilcox said: > On Tue, Oct 06, 1998 at 07:11:12AM +0200, Thomas Boroske wrote: > > Also, what about Rev. J/K SAs. I've got one of those, is it > > a big problem with ARMLinux ? > > It ought to be, but it isn't. By coincidence, ARMLinux seems to not > provoke the same bug that NetBSD experiences. I have no idea why. Hmm, if this is the STM bug that I'm thinking about, then ARM Linux has had a fix since it was ported to the StrongARM for it. -- Russell King (rmk@milldev.demon.co.uk) From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Oct 6 12:13:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA90136 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 12:13:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA06455 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 12:13:25 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma006444; Tue, 6 Oct 98 12:13:06 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:29768 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10767-11773>; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 13:12:12 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <153875-29396>; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 00:57:54 -0400 Received: from studict.student.utwente.nl ([130.89.220.2]:4394 "EHLO studict.student.utwente.nl" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154270-29396>; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 00:52:29 -0400 Received: from poekie.test. (ut240232.inbel.utwente.nl [130.89.240.232]) by studict.student.utwente.nl (8.8.6/MQT) with ESMTP id MAA12720 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 12:05:43 +0200 (METDST) Received: (from mark@localhost) by poekie.test. (8.8.7/8.6.9) id LAA05435 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:49:38 +0200 Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:49:38 +0200 From: Mark van Doesburg Illegal-Object: Syntax error in Message-Id: value found on vger.rutgers.edu: Message-Id: <199810060949.LAA05435@poekie.test.> ^-illegal subdomain in domain, propably extra '.' at the end of the address To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: pre-2.1.123 patch X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Message-Id: <19981006045810Z153875-29396+443@vger.rutgers.edu> Status: RO Content-Length: 208 Lines: 6 I've upgraded patch from 2.1b to 2.5, it helps. The result of sum fs/adfs/super.c in the original 2.1.123 kernel is, 54305 9 Mark. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Oct 6 12:04:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA90040 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 12:04:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA06433 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 12:04:55 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma006431; Tue, 6 Oct 98 12:04:44 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:29768 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11138-11773>; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 13:03:52 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <153880-29396>; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 00:41:19 -0400 Received: from mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com ([157.161.173.16]:25110 "EHLO mail.core.genedata.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154606-29396>; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 00:36:23 -0400 Received: from relay.ch.genedata.com (pinatubo.ch.genedata.com [157.161.173.32]) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA06367; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:49:39 +0200 Received: from mencheca.ch.genedata.com (root@mencheca.ch.genedata.com [157.161.173.204]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA89551; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:49:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: by genedata.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.101) for awiggins@cse.unsw.EDU.AU; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:49:45 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <19981006114945.O11511@genedata.com> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:49:45 +0200 From: Matthew Wilcox To: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" , sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: effecient context switches on the StrongArm References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.2 In-Reply-To: ; from Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins on Tue, Oct 06, 1998 at 06:10:43PM +1000 X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1282 Lines: 22 On Tue, Oct 06, 1998 at 06:10:43PM +1000, Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins wrote: > I think this might have come up before but i'm looking at doing > some OS design for the StrongArm SA1100. The virtually taged caches are > looking at being a bit of a problem for context switches. Has anyone come > up with any idea's for cutting back the cost of context switches on the > StrongArm? Perhaps using domains or something? > I'd appriciate anyones idea or pointers to papers on the subject. I have a paper on the subject, not to hand right now. It was implemented on the HP-PA RISC with the Mach `micro'kernel. The authors show some interesting results; and I've been thinking about doing this for ARMLinux. Basically, they delay purge/flush operations till they have to be done, frequently with the reult that they don't need to be done. I'm not entirely convinced this will work well on the SA, but I'll get you the reference of the paper tomorrow. -- Matthew Wilcox "I decry the current tendency to seek patents on algorithms. There are better ways to earn a living than to prevent other people from making use of one's contributions to computer science." -- Donald E. Knuth, TAoCP vol 3 unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Oct 6 12:43:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA90947 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 12:43:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA06525 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 12:43:25 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma006523; Tue, 6 Oct 98 12:42:58 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:26720 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11138-11773>; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 13:40:34 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154275-29396>; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 01:12:47 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:6184 "EHLO globe.nexus.co.uk" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154411-29396>; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 01:10:31 -0400 Received: from [192.0.0.3] (helo=spring.nexus.co.uk ident=exim) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 0zQU1r-0000nj-00; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:07:39 +0100 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=spring.nexus.co.uk ident=pb) by spring.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 0zQU1g-0000Ju-00; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:07:28 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: effecient context switches on the StrongArm In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 06 Oct 1998 18:10:43 +1000." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 11:07:27 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1575 Lines: 29 > I think this might have come up before but i'm looking at doing >some OS design for the StrongArm SA1100. The virtually taged caches are >looking at being a bit of a problem for context switches. Has anyone come >up with any idea's for cutting back the cost of context switches on the >StrongArm? Perhaps using domains or something? > I'd appriciate anyones idea or pointers to papers on the subject. As you've noticed it's a bit of a nuisance that you have to flush the cache on every context switch to get rid of outdated mappings. You could try to amortise this by marking dirty data pages as inaccessible on a switch so that accesses will trap, and flushing them one at a time. For processes with a small working set this might work fairly well but for larger programs (gcc) it would almost certainly be a serious loss. To find out which pages were dirty you'd have to initially write protect them all and again trap accesses. If you're resigned to the idea of doing a complete cache flush on every switch then you could consider doing the flush by reading in data from the new task's address space (maybe its stack) so that at least you have a sporting chance of warming the cache with data that will be useful. The flip side to that is that particularly on the 1100 it will be slower than using the dedicated cache flush area. There may be some literature around on the subject; the ARM family isn't (quite) the only series of processors with virtual-tagged caches. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Oct 6 13:30:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA92165 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 13:30:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA06660 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 13:30:25 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma006658; Tue, 6 Oct 98 13:30:21 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:13887 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10257-11773>; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 14:26:39 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154087-9896>; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 02:11:33 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1086 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154187-9896>; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 02:08:39 -0400 Received: (from alan@localhost) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) id MAA00946; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 12:22:08 +0100 From: Alan Cox Message-Id: <199810061122.MAA00946@snowcrash.cymru.net> Subject: Re: effecient context switches on the StrongArm To: pb@nexus.co.uk (Philip Blundell) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 12:22:06 +0100 (BST) Cc: awiggins@cse.unsw.edu.au, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Philip Blundell" at Oct 6, 98 11:07:27 am Content-Type: text X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 309 Lines: 8 > There may be some literature around on the subject; the ARM family isn't > (quite) the only series of processors with virtual-tagged caches. The obvious literature item: "Unix systems for modern architectures" - Curt Schimmel unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Oct 6 17:24:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA99103 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 17:24:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA07493 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 17:24:55 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma007491; Tue, 6 Oct 98 17:24:38 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:26913 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <6572-11773>; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 18:21:00 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <153965-11463>; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 05:06:45 -0400 Received: from post-11.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.40]:60141 "EHLO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154695-11463>; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 04:38:21 -0400 Received: from [158.152.208.192] (helo=causality.com) by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.03 #1) id 0zQXXW-0004ly-00; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 13:52:35 +0000 Message-ID: <3619FF1F.E11227C9@causality.com> Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 12:29:35 +0100 From: "Neil A. Carson" Organization: Causality Limited X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" CC: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: effecient context switches on the StrongArm References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 591 Lines: 18 Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins wrote: > > I think this might have come up before but i'm looking at doing > some OS design for the StrongArm SA1100. The virtually taged caches are > looking at being a bit of a problem for context switches. Has anyone come > up with any idea's for cutting back the cost of context switches on the > StrongArm? Perhaps using domains or something? > I'd appriciate anyones idea or pointers to papers on the subject. Don't use address aliasing. Neil -- Neil A. Carson unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From neil@causality.com Tue Oct 6 15:53:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA99187 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 15:53:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA07087 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 15:52:55 +0200 Received: from post-11.mail.demon.net(194.217.242.40) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma007085; Tue, 6 Oct 98 15:52:45 +0200 Received: from [158.152.208.192] (helo=causality.com) by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.03 #1) id 0zQXXa-0004mD-00; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 13:52:38 +0000 Sender: neil@mail.core.genedata.com Message-ID: <3619FF8B.AE2BDD8B@causality.com> Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 12:31:23 +0100 From: "Neil A. Carson" Organization: Causality Limited X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Wilcox CC: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" , sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: effecient context switches on the StrongArm References: <19981006114945.O11511@genedata.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO Content-Length: 799 Lines: 23 Matthew Wilcox wrote: > I have a paper on the subject, not to hand right now. It was implemented > on the HP-PA RISC with the Mach `micro'kernel. The authors show some > interesting results; and I've been thinking about doing this for ARMLinux. I've already implemented this for NetBSD... > Basically, they delay purge/flush operations till they have to be done, > frequently with the reult that they don't need to be done. I'm not > entirely convinced this will work well on the SA, but I'll get you the > reference of the paper tomorrow. ...Unfortunately the MIPS and the ARM are quite different. Unfortunately, in the terms of a context switch the ops can't really be delayed, but on some other MMU ops can. the MIPS tags cache lines by PID as well as address. Neil -- Neil A. Carson From y0001006@ws.rz.tu-bs.de Tue Oct 6 15:35:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA97386 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 15:35:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA07009 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 15:35:25 +0200 Received: from rzcomm1.rz.tu-bs.de(134.169.9.107) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma007005; Tue, 6 Oct 98 15:35:08 +0200 Received: from y0001006 (ppp386.ts.rz.tu-bs.de [134.169.243.86]) by rzcomm1.rz.tu-bs.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id PAA09011 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 15:35:04 +0200 (METDST) Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 15:29:01 +0200 From: Thomas Boroske To: Matthew.Wilcox@genedata.com Subject: Re: ARMLinux on Powertec SCSI ver. 1 ? Message-ID: <791cc9048%y0001006@tu-bs.de> In-Reply-To: <19981006092256.M11511@genedata.com> Reply-To: T.Boroske@tu-bs.de X-Organization: Home X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40b for RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60m Status: RO Content-Length: 618 Lines: 19 In message <19981006092256.M11511@genedata.com> you wrote: > On Tue, Oct 06, 1998 at 07:11:12AM +0200, Thomas Boroske wrote: > > Also, what about Rev. J/K SAs. I've got one of those, is it > > a big problem with ARMLinux ? > > It ought to be, but it isn't. By coincidence, ARMLinux seems to not > provoke the same bug that NetBSD experiences. I have no idea why. Hmm, interesting. I've also heard that recent NetBSD systems (with UVM) kernel have a lot less problems, but I've basically given up on NetBSD until there is a Powertec driver available... Thanks for you answer. Kind regards, -- Thomas Boroske From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Oct 6 23:27:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA119351 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 23:27:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA08347 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 23:27:26 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma008345; Tue, 6 Oct 98 23:27:18 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:45168 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10466-20921>; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 00:24:49 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154921-11463>; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 10:24:53 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1472 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154621-11463>; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 09:25:42 -0400 Received: (from alan@localhost) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) id SAA09703; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 18:41:39 +0100 From: Alan Cox Message-Id: <199810061741.SAA09703@snowcrash.cymru.net> Subject: Re: effecient context switches on the StrongArm To: neil@causality.com (Neil A. Carson) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 18:41:37 +0100 (BST) Cc: awiggins@cse.unsw.EDU.AU, sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <3619FF1F.E11227C9@causality.com> from "Neil A. Carson" at Oct 6, 98 12:29:35 pm Content-Type: text X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 572 Lines: 12 > > up with any idea's for cutting back the cost of context switches on the > > StrongArm? Perhaps using domains or something? > > I'd appriciate anyones idea or pointers to papers on the subject. > > Don't use address aliasing. Nice if you can avoid it. But for unixlike OS's not only do you get inter process aliasing you get CPU local aliasing. Try mapping the same sys5 shm block into two places in the same process. That one is ugly as hell even with tagged caches like the sparc. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Oct 6 22:26:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA114714 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 22:26:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA08216 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 22:26:56 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma008205; Tue, 6 Oct 98 22:26:37 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:43592 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <6832-25561>; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 23:23:31 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154923-11463>; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 09:58:57 -0400 Received: from mail.thefree.net ([195.34.192.14]:2948 "EHLO mail.thefree.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <155007-11463>; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 08:49:49 -0400 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Tue, 06 Oct 1998 18:05:05 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from loopback [195.34.195.223] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Tue, 06 Oct 1998 18:05:04 0000 Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 18:49:17 +0100 From: Chris Sawer To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: More than 256 colours in X? Message-ID: <76d5e39048%root@usa.net> Reply-To: chris.sawer@usa.net X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40d for RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60m X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 799 Lines: 21 Hello again, Thanks for all the great responses about compiling ld - I now have the latest version statically compiled on my system, and The Gimp is now fully working. The only slightly annoying thing is that it looks pretty rubbish in 256 colours - is there any way to get more? I am using a RiscPC with 1Mb of VRAM and appreciate that I'll need to drop down to 640x480 to get 16bit colour, but having looked at quite a few X man pages, I can't find any hints on how to change the colour depth or resolution. Thanks in advance for any help, Chris -- Chris Sawer - Worthing, Sussex, England http://members.xoom.com/chrissawer/ E-Mail: chris.sawer@usa.net, ICQ: 15010147 PGP public key available on request unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Oct 6 23:47:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA119060 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 23:47:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA08386 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 23:47:56 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma008384; Tue, 6 Oct 98 23:47:54 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:45168 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <6624-20921>; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 00:46:26 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154967-11463>; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:36:20 -0400 Received: from post-12.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.41]:49100 "EHLO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <155049-11463>; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 10:22:57 -0400 Received: from [158.152.35.208] (helo=forum.demon.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.03 #1) id 0zQcwK-00062s-00 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 19:38:33 +0000 Received: from loopback ([127.0.0.1]) by forum.demon.co.uk with SMTP; Tue, 06 Oct 1998 19:36:59 GMT Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 20:32:14 +0100 From: Andrew Tuson To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: crash on startup of Linux Message-ID: <3d42ed9048%andy@forum.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <199809200828.JAA00973@raistlin.armlinux.org> X-Organization: at Home X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40b for RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.61 X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1070 Lines: 27 In message <199809200828.JAA00973@raistlin.armlinux.org> Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote: > Sander van der Wal writes: > > I'm trying to install arm linux from the Acorn CDRom, following the > > instructions as given by Paul Vigay. I've installed it on my second > > ide disc (a 2.1 GB one). Everything went ok up to step 82 of Paul's > > instructions, because the kernel crashed with the messages below (hope > > I copied them right) > >... > > pc: [] > > lr: [] > > This problem is covered on the FAQ. Please see the 3rd question in the > 'Booting / Rebooting problems' section. I've got the same problem. If I try booting the system using !Linux -bootkernel rpc as in the FAQ, and setting extra args to root:/dev/hda3, or using a DOS floppy as suggested elsewhere in the FAQ I get the same error report and the machine locks up. I don't get access to a command line to use loadmap. What am I doing wrong? -- Andrew Tuson unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Oct 7 02:54:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA122287 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 02:53:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id CAA08760 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 02:53:56 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma008758; Wed, 7 Oct 98 02:53:38 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:14444 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <6718-20921>; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 03:53:20 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154421-11463>; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 13:33:58 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:3821 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <155027-11463>; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:53:24 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0zQeBm-0002oU-00; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 21:58:34 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: chris.sawer@usa.net cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: More than 256 colours in X? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 06 Oct 1998 18:49:17 BST." <76d5e39048%root@usa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 21:58:34 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 490 Lines: 12 >The only slightly annoying thing is that it looks pretty rubbish in 256 >colours - is there any way to get more? I am using a RiscPC with 1Mb of VRAM What happens if you just start Linux from a mode with more colours? It always used to be that case that neither the kernel nor the Xserver knew how to change mode, they just stuck with what you gave them. I don't know if this is still the case though. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Oct 7 03:19:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA114430 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 03:19:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id DAA08823 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 03:19:29 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma008821; Wed, 7 Oct 98 03:19:27 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:51538 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <6718-20921>; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 04:16:59 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <153942-11463>; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 14:03:21 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1705 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <155062-11463>; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 12:20:47 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (galatea-27.cableol.net [194.168.16.27]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id WAA13605; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 22:36:30 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA14473; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 22:19:19 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id WAA01061; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 22:21:50 +0100 Message-Id: <199810062121.WAA01061@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: effecient context switches on the StrongArm To: pb@nexus.co.uk (Philip Blundell) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 22:21:50 +0100 (BST) Cc: sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Philip Blundell" at Oct 6, 98 11:07:27 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1875 Lines: 29 Philip Blundell writes: > > I think this might have come up before but i'm looking at doing > >some OS design for the StrongArm SA1100. The virtually taged caches are > >looking at being a bit of a problem for context switches. Has anyone come > >up with any idea's for cutting back the cost of context switches on the > >StrongArm? Perhaps using domains or something? > > As you've noticed it's a bit of a nuisance that you have to flush the cache on > every context switch to get rid of outdated mappings. You could try to > amortise this by marking dirty data pages as inaccessible on a switch so that > accesses will trap, and flushing them one at a time. For processes with a > small working set this might work fairly well but for larger programs (gcc) it > would almost certainly be a serious loss. To find out which pages were > dirty you'd have to initially write protect them all and again trap accesses. There are other advantages that I can see from getting Linux to delay cache flushing/tlb flushing on context switching. I'm considering about a few additional optimisations which delayed cache flushing will allow which could increase performance (both context switching and IO performance). However, I'd like to think about them for a little longer before making them public. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Oct 7 02:35:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA121456 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 02:35:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id CAA08726 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 02:35:56 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma008724; Wed, 7 Oct 98 02:35:52 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:13324 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10431-20921>; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 03:35:28 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154017-11463>; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 13:14:39 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1425 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <155403-11463>; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 13:01:12 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (galatea-27.cableol.net [194.168.16.27]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id XAA14456; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 23:17:08 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA14708; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 23:15:28 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id XAA01294; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 23:17:56 +0100 Message-Id: <199810062217.XAA01294@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: crash on startup of Linux To: andy@forum.demon.co.uk (Andrew Tuson) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 23:17:55 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <3d42ed9048%andy@forum.demon.co.uk> from "Andrew Tuson" at Oct 6, 98 08:32:14 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1629 Lines: 32 Andrew Tuson writes: > > Sander van der Wal writes: > > > I'm trying to install arm linux from the Acorn CDRom, following the > > > instructions as given by Paul Vigay. I've installed it on my second > > > ide disc (a 2.1 GB one). Everything went ok up to step 82 of Paul's > > > instructions, because the kernel crashed with the messages below (hope > > > I copied them right) > > >... > > > pc: [] > > > lr: [] > > > > This problem is covered on the FAQ. Please see the 3rd question in the > > 'Booting / Rebooting problems' section. > > I've got the same problem. If I try booting the system using > !Linux -bootkernel rpc as in the FAQ, and setting extra args to > root:/dev/hda3, or using a DOS floppy as suggested elsewhere in > the FAQ I get the same error report and the machine locks up. I > don't get access to a command line to use loadmap. FAQ question 3.3 defintely covers this, and gives you three options on getting Linux to boot so that you can fix the real problem. If you're still having problems, let me know. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Oct 7 09:19:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA127569 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:19:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA09431 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:19:29 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma009429; Wed, 7 Oct 98 09:19:08 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:53768 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10639-7570>; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:17:32 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <153933-11463>; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 21:59:08 -0400 Received: from gw-nl1.philips.com ([192.68.44.33]:4591 "EHLO gw-nl1.philips.com" ident: "IDENT-NONSENSE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154005-11463>; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 21:55:25 -0400 Received: from smtprelay-nl1.philips.com (localhost.philips.com [127.0.0.1]) by gw-nl1.philips.com with ESMTP id JAA25417; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:13:02 +0200 (MEST) (envelope-from koek@natlab.research.philips.com) Received: from natlab.research.philips.com (prle.natlab.research.philips.com [130.139.161.112]) by smtprelay-nl1.philips.com (8.8.5/8.6.10-1.2.2m-970826) with SMTP id JAA25577; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:13:01 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by natlab.research.philips.com; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:13:00 +0200 Message-Id: <361B147B.C81A6502@natlab.research.philips.com> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 09:12:59 +0200 From: Mark Koek Reply-To: mkoek@wi.leidenuniv.nl Organization: none X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; I; HP-UX B.10.20 9000/735) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: chris.sawer@usa.net, ARM Linux mailing list Subject: Re: More than 256 colours in X? References: <76d5e39048%root@usa.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1079 Lines: 33 Chris Sawer wrote: Hello, Chris Sawer wrote: > I am using a RiscPC with 1Mb of VRAM > and appreciate that I'll need to drop down to 640x480 to get 16bit colour. Huh? I've got a RiscPC with 1M VRAM and can switch to 800x600 @ 16bpp (checks with xcalc... yes, that'll fit in 1M) under RISC OS. Haven't tried it with Linux, but I can't see why it wouldn't be possible. I think one of the shortcomings of X when compared to the RO Desktop is that you can't switch screen modes 'on the fly'. I agree RISC OS is pretty unique in catering for this, but I've grown so used to it that I really miss it in Linux. > I can't find any hints on how to change the colour depth or resolution. I'm trying to find out too. This is actually because I've just found a driver for the video card in my x86 box and got XFree86 to work on that; however, it picks a screen mode I don't really prefer. I know that's slightly off-topic but since the subject has been raised here... 'bye, Mark Koek unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Oct 7 10:28:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA124720 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:28:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA09570 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:28:29 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma009565; Wed, 7 Oct 98 10:28:18 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:30520 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10905-20921>; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:26:30 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154050-11463>; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 23:07:46 -0400 Received: from mail.cs.up.ac.za ([137.215.18.70]:6202 "EHLO mail.cs.up.ac.za" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154057-11463>; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 23:04:13 -0400 Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.cs.up.ac.za (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08620; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:21:24 +0200 Received: from asst2.cs.up.ac.za(137.215.166.56), claiming to be "asst.cs.up.ac.za" via SMTP by mail.cs.up.ac.za, id smtpda08612; Wed Oct 7 10:21:20 1998 Message-ID: <002f01bdf1cb$a51f7800$38a6d789@asst.cs.up.ac.za> From: "Samuel Kock" To: , "ARM Linux mailing list" Subject: Re: More than 256 colours in X? Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:22:33 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1338 Lines: 32 >Haven't tried it with Linux, but I can't see why it wouldn't be >possible. AFAIK, the X server in ARM Linux does not do more than 256 colours, but then again, I may be wrong. >I think one of the shortcomings of X when compared to the RO Desktop is >that you can't switch screen modes 'on the fly'. I agree RISC OS is >pretty unique in catering for this, but I've grown so used to it that I >really miss it in Linux. Er, wrong, actually :-). You can! With Slackware Linux (I do not know how in Redhat), you just press Ctrl-Alt-+ or Ctrl-Alt-minus on the keypad, and it changes res for you. I think the way the X server works is that is it automagically chooses the highest amount of colours available on your system, but I may be wrong. Anybody know better? >I'm trying to find out too. This is actually because I've just found a >driver for the video card in my x86 box and got XFree86 to work on that; >however, it picks a screen mode I don't really prefer. Did you do a XF86Config? THere it asks you a lot of questions about video card, amount of RAM, etc. Just be sure to put your monitor refresh rates in correctly, otherwise you may harm your monitor. You can also edit XFree86's config file by hand . Regards Samuel Kock --- skock@cs.up.ac.za unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Oct 7 10:28:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA128816 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:28:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA09571 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:28:29 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xmaa09565; Wed, 7 Oct 98 10:28:19 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:30520 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10429-20921>; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:27:01 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154042-11463>; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 23:08:04 -0400 Received: from mail.cs.up.ac.za ([137.215.18.70]:6209 "EHLO mail.cs.up.ac.za" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154085-11463>; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 23:04:51 -0400 Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.cs.up.ac.za (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08641; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:22:23 +0200 Received: from asst2.cs.up.ac.za(137.215.166.56), claiming to be "asst.cs.up.ac.za" via SMTP by mail.cs.up.ac.za, id smtpda08633; Wed Oct 7 10:22:15 1998 Message-ID: <003601bdf1cb$c5c32e80$38a6d789@asst.cs.up.ac.za> From: "Samuel Kock" To: , "ARM Linux mailing list" Subject: Gimp (Was: e: More than 256 colours in X?) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:23:32 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 164 Lines: 9 Hi So when will the Gimp appear on your Armlinux binaries pages? REgards Samuel Kock unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Oct 7 11:01:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA125184 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:01:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA09798 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:01:31 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma009784; Wed, 7 Oct 98 11:01:14 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:31260 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10627-20921>; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:59:33 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154057-11463>; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 23:36:21 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:25417 "EHLO globe.nexus.co.uk" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154117-11463>; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 23:35:42 -0400 Received: from [192.0.0.3] (helo=spring.nexus.co.uk ident=exim) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 0zQpK7-0001yW-00; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:51:55 +0100 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=spring.nexus.co.uk ident=pb) by spring.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 0zQpJs-0001M7-00; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:51:40 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: "Samuel Kock" cc: mkoek@wi.leidenuniv.nl, "ARM Linux mailing list" Subject: Re: More than 256 colours in X? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 07 Oct 1998 10:22:33 +0200." <002f01bdf1cb$a51f7800$38a6d789@asst.cs.up.ac.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 09:51:40 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 601 Lines: 16 >Er, wrong, actually :-). You can! With Slackware Linux (I do not know how in >Redhat), you just press Ctrl-Alt-+ or Ctrl-Alt-minus on the keypad, and it It's the same for any XFree86 system. >changes res for you. I think the way the X server works is that is it >automagically chooses the highest amount of colours available on your >system, but I may be wrong. Anybody know better? It gets the colour depth from your configuration file or the "-bpp" option. You can't change this on the fly, only the resolution. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Oct 7 12:06:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA138603 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:06:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA10510 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:06:30 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma010508; Wed, 7 Oct 98 12:06:10 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:16752 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10365-20921>; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:03:46 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154191-11463>; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 00:44:40 -0400 Received: from post.interalpha.co.uk ([195.26.224.14]:12771 "EHLO post.interalpha.net" ident: "0") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154240-11463>; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 00:42:17 -0400 Received: from pvigay.interalpha.co.uk (th-mod52.interalpha.net [195.26.228.243]) by post.interalpha.net (8.8.7/8.6.11) with SMTP id LAA24259 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:06:12 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Paul Vigay To: Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 10:57:20 +0100 Message-ID: <48913c7611pvigay@interalpha.co.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.09k for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: Re: More than 256 colours in X? In-Reply-To: <361B147B.C81A6502@natlab.research.philips.com> Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1298 Lines: 30 In article <361B147B.C81A6502@natlab.research.philips.com>, Mark Koek wrote: > Chris Sawer wrote: > Hello, > Chris Sawer wrote: > > I am using a RiscPC with 1Mb of VRAM > > and appreciate that I'll need to drop down to 640x480 to get 16bit colour. > Huh? I've got a RiscPC with 1M VRAM and can switch to 800x600 @ 16bpp > (checks with xcalc... yes, that'll fit in 1M) under RISC OS. > Haven't tried it with Linux, but I can't see why it wouldn't be > possible. I was trying to do this yesterday. According to my Linux book there should be an X Windows config file called XF86Config file from which you can set the X Windows screen mode. Does anyone know if this is supported under ARMLinux and where I can get an example file from, as by default this file doesn't exist? -- Paul Vigay Acorn Programming, __\\|//__ Internet Consultancy http://www.matrix.clara.net (` o-o ') & Web Design -----------------------------------ooO-(_)-Ooo--------------------------- 51 Things to do in a lift: 22. Frown and mutter "gotta go, gotta go" then sigh and say "oops!" unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Oct 7 12:19:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA139928 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:19:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA10569 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:19:29 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma010564; Wed, 7 Oct 98 12:19:20 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:16752 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10582-20921>; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:15:53 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154212-11463>; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 00:55:59 -0400 Received: from chaos.oregan.net ([195.173.86.1]:6474 "EHLO chaos.oregan.net" ident: "root") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154190-11463>; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 00:55:13 -0400 Received: from tiddles.oregan (oregan-cambridge.demon.co.uk [212.228.27.73]) by chaos.oregan.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA00791; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:13:07 +0100 Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 11:10:15 +0100 From: Phil Norman To: pvigay@interalpha.co.uk Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: More than 256 colours in X? Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <48913c7611pvigay@interalpha.co.uk> X-Organization: Xania X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40d for RISC OS X-Editor: Zap, using ZapEmail =?ISO-8859-1?Q?0.21=DF?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60m X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 884 Lines: 20 In message <48913c7611pvigay@interalpha.co.uk> Paul Vigay wrote: > I was trying to do this yesterday. According to my Linux book there should > be an X Windows config file called XF86Config file from which you can set > the X Windows screen mode. Does anyone know if this is supported under > ARMLinux and where I can get an example file from, as by default this file > doesn't exist? Unless things have changed a lot very recently, XFree86 is not what linux-arm uses for its Xserver. This is why things like ctrl-alt-Fx doesn't allow you to switch to a VT of your choice. It also doesn't support deep colour modes - if you try it in anything above 8bpp, the VT won't cope, and neither will X. I have a feeling RMK is working on fixing this, but don't quote me. Phil unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Oct 7 12:43:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA140770 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:43:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA10644 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:42:59 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma010640; Wed, 7 Oct 98 12:42:54 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:4117 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10598-20921>; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:40:06 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154238-11463>; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 01:20:00 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:28891 "EHLO globe.nexus.co.uk" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154087-11463>; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 01:16:24 -0400 Received: from [192.0.0.3] (helo=spring.nexus.co.uk ident=exim) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 0zQqn2-0002AQ-00; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:25:52 +0100 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=spring.nexus.co.uk ident=pb) by spring.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 0zQqmn-0001Sy-00; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:25:37 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Paul Vigay cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: More than 256 colours in X? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 07 Oct 1998 10:57:20 BST." <48913c7611pvigay@interalpha.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 11:25:37 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 495 Lines: 12 >I was trying to do this yesterday. According to my Linux book there should >be an X Windows config file called XF86Config file from which you can set >the X Windows screen mode. Does anyone know if this is supported under That only applies for the XFree86 server, which isn't used on the ARM. The best thing to do is probably to fix the fbcon code to use deeper modes and then you can use the fbdev X server. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Oct 7 20:59:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA184610 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 20:59:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA13550 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 20:59:30 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma013548; Wed, 7 Oct 98 20:59:01 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:12320 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <3884-7570>; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 21:57:26 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154904-11463>; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:28:02 -0400 Received: from mail13.digital.com ([192.208.46.30]:1245 "EHLO mail13.digital.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <155057-11463>; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:17:58 -0400 Received: from tparch.tay1.dec.com (tparch.tay1.dec.com [16.119.0.10]) by mail13.digital.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/WV1.0h) with SMTP id OAA11602 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:38:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from scrugs.amt.tay1.dec.com by tparch.tay1.dec.com (5.65/MS-010395) id AA04606; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:39:27 -0400 Received: by scrugs.amt.tay1.dec.com (5.65v4.0/1.1.19.2/20May98-0124PM) id AA07322; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:38:05 -0400 Date: Wed, 7 Oct 98 14:38:05 EDT From: Larry Sendlosky To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Cc: itsy-os@pa.dec.com Subject: SA1100 PID based Virtual addressing Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 847 Lines: 22 I believe somebody posted to the linux-arm list initially (I saw all the traffic) concerning using the SA1100 as basis for some O/S development. Somebody in group recalled a feature of the SA1100 and I don't remember seeing anybody else mention it here. Coprocessor 15, Register 13 is Read/Write Process ID. Bits 30-25 (PID) of this register are OR'd with bits 30-25 of a virtual address. If the PID bits are non-zero, this effectively remaps the virtual address to one of 64 chunks of VA space in the lower 2GB. larry ______________________________________________________________________ Larry Sendlosky AMT larry@amt.tay1.dec.com (978) 506-4031 Compaq ---------------------------------------------------------------------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Oct 7 23:22:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA190414 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 23:22:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA13859 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 23:22:30 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma013857; Wed, 7 Oct 98 23:22:25 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:40017 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10974-8559>; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 00:18:28 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154461-11463>; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:12:04 -0400 Received: from mail.thefree.net ([195.34.192.14]:4753 "EHLO mail.thefree.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154492-11463>; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:49:10 -0400 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Wed, 07 Oct 1998 20:09:32 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from loopback [195.34.195.117] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Wed, 07 Oct 1998 20:09:31 0000 Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 21:06:53 +0100 From: Chris Sawer To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Gimp (Was: Re: More than 256 colours in X?) Message-ID: <6a44749148%root@usa.net> In-Reply-To: <003601bdf1cb$c5c32e80$38a6d789@asst.cs.up.ac.za> Reply-To: chris.sawer@usa.net X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40d for RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60m X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 706 Lines: 21 In message <003601bdf1cb$c5c32e80$38a6d789@asst.cs.up.ac.za> "Samuel Kock" wrote: > So when will the Gimp appear on your Armlinux binaries pages? It won't - because it would take up over 250Mb - flippin' statically linked binaries. When elf is officially released, however... My website has just had a revamp, with a couple more binaries added and a bit of a reshuffle. http://members.xoom.com/chrissawer/armlinux.html Chris -- Chris Sawer - Worthing, Sussex, England http://members.xoom.com/chrissawer/ E-Mail: chris.sawer@usa.net, ICQ: 15010147 PGP public key available on request unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Oct 8 01:42:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA192361 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 01:42:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id BAA14113 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 01:42:00 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma014111; Thu, 8 Oct 98 01:41:38 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:34619 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <3898-8559>; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 02:41:22 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <155063-11463>; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:54:37 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1454 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <155087-11463>; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:01:53 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (galatea-1.cableol.net [194.168.16.1]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id WAA07114 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 22:22:36 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA15815 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 22:20:52 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id WAA01026 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 22:23:24 +0100 Message-Id: <199810072123.WAA01026@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: PCI IDE HD performance figures (lack of)? To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 22:23:23 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: <199810041322.OAA15208@snowcrash.cymru.net> from "Alan Cox" at Oct 4, 98 02:22:45 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1543 Lines: 32 Alan Cox writes: > > Something wierd is happening here; Alpha's suffer from the same problem; > > my 533MHz Alpha could only do about 2MB/s off the EIDE disc without DMA; > > turn DMA on and you get around 6MB/s (off an old disc at that). > > Similar to a lot of PC figures. DMA mode is equivalent to the highest PIO > modes and many controllers only support those modes in DMA form. UDMA is > faster than PIO modes full stop Ok, for those of you who are interested... I've managed to get 7.6MB/s through the EBSA285 with Promise Ultra33 interface in what I think is UDMA mode 1. (after hanging the interface several times). I think that I have to send a SetFeatures command to the drive to tell it I want to use UDMA mode 2 before it'll work. Note that practically, you can't get more than 10MB/s sustained transfer from the drive - read: http://www.freenix.fr/linux/HOWTO-vo/mini/Ultra-DMA http://www.quantum.com/src/whitepapers/ultraata/ for more information. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Oct 8 04:55:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA194735 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 04:55:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id EAA14445 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 04:55:32 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma014443; Thu, 8 Oct 98 04:55:13 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:55392 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <3188-8559>; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 05:54:47 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <155204-11463>; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:34:55 -0400 Received: from cr10m.staffs.ac.uk ([193.60.4.10]:1644 "EHLO cr10m.staffs.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <156021-11463>; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:07:19 -0400 Received: from delenn (sth193.staffs.ac.uk [193.62.26.193]) by cr10m.staffs.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id BAA29425 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 01:29:42 +0100 (BST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ian Molton To: ARMlinux mailing list Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 01:29:46 +0100 Message-ID: <48918c55eamh120608@staffs.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.08g for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: Hi there... Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 1148 Lines: 33 Well, I went and tried NetBSD 'cos of certain things looking greener on their side of the fence, but I've come back to linux (because BSD doesnt seem to like me) I've successfully installed 2.0.35, but cant for the life of me remember how to install the kernel sources. Can anyone give step by step instructions, as this (still) isnt adequately covered anywhere I have found (I looked in the FAQ) I assume I will need the 2.0.35 kernel sources (ftp.kernel.org) and the 2.0.35 patches (ftp.arm.uk.linux.org), but am at a loss as to what to do now. I installed the kernel source in /usr/src/linux, and tried gunzip | patch but this gave a massive (scrolled v. fast) list of stuff and then failed with an error about garbled whassnames. I'm on ethernet, so I'm not too worried about having to download stuff. Many thanks, -- -Ian aka Lennier Acorn Computers, the best in the world http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/ BaBe - Women's human rights organisation in Croatia http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/babe/ Preferences: Cats, Zap, Purple, Aspie unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Oct 8 09:28:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA198376 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:28:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA14920 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:28:32 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma014918; Thu, 8 Oct 98 09:28:15 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:55872 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <8523-14278>; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:26:13 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154584-11463>; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 21:29:31 -0400 Received: from mail.cs.up.ac.za ([137.215.18.70]:10850 "EHLO mail.cs.up.ac.za" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <155242-11463>; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 21:05:12 -0400 Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.cs.up.ac.za (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA18237; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 08:29:28 +0200 Received: from rw10.cs.up.ac.za(137.215.166.14), claiming to be "venus" via SMTP by mail.cs.up.ac.za, id smtpda18229; Thu Oct 8 08:29:19 1998 Message-ID: <001501bdf285$28868a80$0ea6d789@venus.cs.up.ac.za> From: "Samuel Kock" To: , Subject: Re: Gimp (Was: Re: More than 256 colours in X?) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 08:30:35 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 494 Lines: 16 >It won't - because it would take up over 250Mb - flippin' statically linked >binaries. When elf is officially released, however... Erk, I don't think so, then... Any tips on how to compile it then? How about a GIMP compile howto? >My website has just had a revamp, with a couple more binaries added and a bit >of a reshuffle. >http://members.xoom.com/chrissawer/armlinux.html I'll have a look, thanks Samuel Kock unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Oct 8 11:47:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA203053 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:47:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA15757 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:47:02 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma015750; Thu, 8 Oct 98 11:46:51 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:45858 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <9109-8559>; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:44:26 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154566-11463>; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 23:21:25 -0400 Received: from frank.cs.bham.ac.uk ([147.188.192.9]:50932 "HELO frank" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <155295-11463>; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 22:29:51 -0400 Received: from mr-messy by frank with SMTP (MMTA); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 08:54:35 +0100 Message-ID: <361C6FCA.167E@zetnet.co.uk> Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 08:54:50 +0100 From: "James J. Farmer (aka JJF)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (X11; I; OSF1 V4.0 alpha) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Hi there... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 798 Lines: 22 >I've successfully installed 2.0.35, but cant for the life of me >remember how to install the kernel sources. > >Can anyone give step by step instructions, as this (still) isnt >adequately covered anywhere I have found (I looked in the FAQ) Actually, there's an excellent guide to compiling the kernel that allowed even dumb 'ole me to get it working... now, if only I could remember where it was. :( Ah well, I guess someone will point you towards it. >I installed the kernel source in /usr/src/linux, and tried > >gunzip | patch > >but this gave a massive (scrolled v. fast) list of stuff and then >failed with an error about garbled whassnames. Actually, I think this one's in the FAQ? JJF. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Oct 8 11:15:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA201359 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:15:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA15588 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:15:32 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma015582; Thu, 8 Oct 98 11:15:24 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:6427 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <8231-8559>; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:14:16 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <155227-11463>; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 23:05:21 -0400 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk ([163.1.138.204]:6773 "HELO ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk" ident: "qmailr") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <155305-11463>; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 22:34:41 -0400 Received: (qmail 13135 invoked by uid 504); 8 Oct 1998 07:59:40 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Oct 1998 07:59:40 -0000 Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 08:59:40 +0100 (GMT) From: Matthew Kirkwood To: Ian Molton cc: ARMlinux mailing list Subject: Re: Hi there... In-Reply-To: <48918c55eamh120608@staffs.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 472 Lines: 17 On Thu, 8 Oct 1998, Ian Molton wrote: > I've successfully installed 2.0.35, but cant for the life of me remember > how to install the kernel sources. [snip] > I installed the kernel source in /usr/src/linux, and tried > > gunzip | patch cd /usr/src/linux zcat (or gunzip -c) patch1.gz patch2.gz (in order) | patch -p1 if the patches have been made the usual way.. Matthew. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Oct 8 11:47:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA203447 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:47:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA15758 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:47:02 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xmaa15750; Thu, 8 Oct 98 11:46:51 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:45858 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <8187-14278>; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:45:29 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <155037-11463>; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 23:30:32 -0400 Received: from relay.neurotec.de ([194.120.241.1]:1347 "HELO relay.neurotec.de" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <155389-11463>; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 23:03:30 -0400 Received: (from shutdown@localhost) by relay.neurotec.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id JAA00367 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:26:04 +0100 Received: from hermes.neurotec.de(192.168.200.6) by relay.neurotec.de via smap (V1.3) id sma000365; Thu Oct 8 09:26:01 1998 Received: from neurotec.de (australia.neurotec.de [192.168.200.134]) by hermes.neurotec.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA17394 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:38:36 +0200 Message-ID: <361C77BA.54CDF6CE@neurotec.de> Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 10:28:42 +0200 From: Eduard Pfarr Organization: Aut Deus aut Nihil X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Arm Linux Subject: Java on ARM-Linux? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 355 Lines: 12 Hallo, Is there any information on the following: A Java VM for ARM-Linux, so that I could use Java programs as I could under Intel Linux for example? If it's not there, yet, is there any information about when it could be available for ARM-Linux? Thank you. Cheers, Eduard. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Oct 8 11:47:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA203535 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:47:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA15759 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:47:02 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xmab15750; Thu, 8 Oct 98 11:46:54 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:45858 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <8524-8559>; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:46:40 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <155389-11463>; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 23:56:12 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:18451 "EHLO globe.nexus.co.uk" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <155194-11463>; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 23:14:07 -0400 Received: from [192.0.0.3] (helo=spring.nexus.co.uk ident=exim) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 0zRBZn-0003Os-00; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:37:35 +0100 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=spring.nexus.co.uk ident=pb) by spring.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 0zRBZV-00030Q-00; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:37:17 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Ian Molton cc: ARMlinux mailing list Subject: Re: Hi there... In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 08 Oct 1998 01:29:46 BST." <48918c55eamh120608@staffs.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 09:37:17 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 261 Lines: 9 >Can anyone give step by step instructions, as this (still) isnt adequately >covered anywhere I have found (I looked in the FAQ) Did you look in linux/README or the kernel HOWTO? p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Oct 8 11:53:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA203400 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:53:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA15981 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:53:32 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma015897; Thu, 8 Oct 98 11:53:02 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:45858 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <9143-14278>; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:52:29 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <155264-11463>; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 00:02:23 -0400 Received: from mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com ([157.161.173.16]:12937 "EHLO mail.core.genedata.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <155355-11463>; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 23:52:38 -0400 Received: from relay.ch.genedata.com (pinatubo.ch.genedata.com [157.161.173.32]) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA15601; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:17:52 +0200 Received: from mencheca.ch.genedata.com (root@mencheca.ch.genedata.com [157.161.173.204]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA150154; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:17:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: by genedata.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.101) for mh120608@cr10m.staffs.ac.uk; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:17:59 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <19981008111759.H15206@genedata.com> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:17:59 +0200 From: Matthew Wilcox To: Ian Molton , ARMlinux mailing list Subject: Re: Hi there... References: <48918c55eamh120608@staffs.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.2 In-Reply-To: <48918c55eamh120608@staffs.ac.uk>; from Ian Molton on Thu, Oct 08, 1998 at 01:29:46AM +0100 X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 846 Lines: 22 On Thu, Oct 08, 1998 at 01:29:46AM +0100, Ian Molton wrote: > I've successfully installed 2.0.35, but cant for the life of me remember > how to install the kernel sources. > > Can anyone give step by step instructions, as this (still) isnt adequately > covered anywhere I have found (I looked in the FAQ) Yes, it is. /usr/src/linux/README covers it adequately. cd /usr/src gzip -cd patchXX.gz | patch -p0 Though I prefer cd /usr/src/linux zcat patch-armXX.gz |patch -p1 -- Matthew Wilcox "I decry the current tendency to seek patents on algorithms. There are better ways to earn a living than to prevent other people from making use of one's contributions to computer science." -- Donald E. Knuth, TAoCP vol 3 unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Oct 8 12:51:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA204531 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:51:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA16655 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:51:32 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma016651; Thu, 8 Oct 98 12:51:10 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:37243 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <8280-8559>; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:49:15 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <153892-11463>; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 00:58:04 -0400 Received: from mail.cs.up.ac.za ([137.215.18.70]:12416 "EHLO mail.cs.up.ac.za" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <155253-11463>; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 00:28:01 -0400 Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.cs.up.ac.za (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA21252; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:51:17 +0200 Received: from rw10.cs.up.ac.za(137.215.166.14), claiming to be "venus" via SMTP by mail.cs.up.ac.za, id smtpda21242; Thu Oct 8 11:51:02 1998 Message-ID: <027001bdf2a1$5934a240$0ea6d789@venus.cs.up.ac.za> From: "Samuel Kock" To: "Eduard Pfarr" , "Arm Linux" Subject: Re: Java on ARM-Linux? Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:52:20 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 613 Lines: 18 >Is there any information on the following: A Java VM for ARM-Linux, so that >I could use Java programs as I could under Intel Linux for example? If it's >not there, yet, is there any information about when it could be available >for ARM-Linux? If you find out, let me know! I downloaded Kaffee version something.\, but cannot get it to compile. It mumbles aabout it cannot guess my system, even with Chris sawer's config.guess file. So, if anybody has any ideas/lights, etc, let me know... Toodles Samuel Kock --- skock@cs.up.ac.za unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Oct 8 13:41:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA205608 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:41:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA17044 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:41:32 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma017042; Thu, 8 Oct 98 13:41:05 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:32545 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <8353-8559>; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:38:50 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <155300-11463>; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 01:21:25 -0400 Received: from [210.154.37.2] ([210.154.37.2]:27756 "EHLO funai-tky.co.jp" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154515-11463>; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 00:40:07 -0400 Received: from hiropu ([192.168.1.19]) by funai-tky.co.jp (8.9.1/3.7Wpr7-98092916) with SMTP id TAA28796 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 19:05:41 +0900 Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 19:05:57 +0900 From: Hiroshi Ishii To: armlinux Subject: egcs-1.0.3 have probrem? Message-Id: <361C8E85312.0EDFHIROSHI@mail.funai-tky.co.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.24.14 X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 389 Lines: 13 Hi ! ( I send email everyday!!) I use egcs-1.0.3 release for aout. I try to compile some applications, I meet error message; undefined reference to '__strtol_internal' What's wrong? -------------------------------------- Funai Electric Engineering Co.,LTD -Hiroshi Ishii unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From mh120608@cr10m.staffs.ac.uk Thu Oct 8 19:03:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA235739 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 19:03:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA17972 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 19:03:32 +0200 Received: from cr10m.staffs.ac.uk(193.60.4.10) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma017970; Thu, 8 Oct 98 19:03:12 +0200 Received: from delenn (sth193.staffs.ac.uk [193.62.26.193]) by cr10m.staffs.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA09833 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 18:03:09 +0100 (BST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ian Molton To: Matthew Wilcox Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 11:13:04 +0100 Message-ID: <4891c1bcc9mh120608@staffs.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.08g for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: Re: Hi there... In-Reply-To: <19981008111759.H15206@genedata.com> Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO Content-Length: 583 Lines: 21 On 08 Oct, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > Yes, it is. /usr/src/linux/README covers it adequately. > cd /usr/src > gzip -cd patchXX.gz | patch -p0 Aha! the -p0 was missing! I KNEW I wasnt far wrong! > Though I prefer > cd /usr/src/linux > zcat patch-armXX.gz |patch -p1 Whats the difference? -- -Ian aka Lennier Acorn Computers, the best in the world http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/ BaBe - Women's human rights organisation in Croatia http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/babe/ Preferences: Cats, Zap, Purple, Aspie From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Oct 9 01:50:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA238147 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 01:50:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id BAA18756 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 01:50:32 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma018754; Fri, 9 Oct 98 01:50:05 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:28217 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <8893-30722>; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 02:47:16 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <155910-11463>; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:51:02 -0400 Received: from post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.27]:59647 "EHLO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <156228-11463>; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:35:38 -0400 Received: from [158.152.208.192] (helo=causality.com) by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.03 #1) id 0zRNEK-0007K8-00; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 21:04:12 +0000 Message-ID: <361CA2CF.1B97A571@causality.com> Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 12:32:31 +0100 From: "Neil A. Carson" Organization: Causality Limited X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eduard Pfarr CC: Arm Linux Subject: Re: Java on ARM-Linux? References: <361C77BA.54CDF6CE@neurotec.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 206 Lines: 10 The latest version of Kaffe at www.transvirtual.com supports both Linux/arm and NetBSD/arm I believe. Neil -- Neil A. Carson unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Oct 8 18:37:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA231048 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 18:37:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA17858 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 18:37:02 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma017856; Thu, 8 Oct 98 18:36:51 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:4136 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <3979-8559>; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 19:34:17 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <155419-11463>; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 06:20:00 -0400 Received: from post.interalpha.co.uk ([195.26.224.14]:25747 "EHLO post" ident: "0") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <155464-11463>; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 04:57:30 -0400 Received: from pvigay.interalpha.co.uk (th-mod53.interalpha.net [195.26.228.244]) by post (8.8.7/8.6.11) with SMTP id PAA16558 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:25:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Paul Vigay To: Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 15:21:41 +0100 Message-ID: <4891d87f9cpvigay@interalpha.co.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.09k for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: Networking problem In-Reply-To: <027001bdf2a1$5934a240$0ea6d789@venus.cs.up.ac.za> Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1454 Lines: 31 I know this is probably an area that a lot of people may have had problems in, but for some reason I cannot get my ARMLinux installation to work on my networked RPC. I've installed the latest kernel/modules etc etc (2.0.35) and I've got the etherh.o etc, but I can't for the life of me work out how to get it working with my ethernet card. Does anyone have any clues, or is there an FAQ I'm missing somewhere. I read through the one on the Armlinux site and read the devices page and I have the Etherh 600 type card so it should be compatible. Whenever I try the ifconfig command it keeps giving device not known type errors. I didn't include the ethernet card in the original installation because it failed to recognise it then, but I assume you can add network cards after the original installation anyway (if you upgraded etc, you shouldn't need to reinstall etc). Any help would be appreciated, before I pull out what's left of my hair. :-) regards, Paul -- Paul Vigay Acorn Programming, __\\|//__ Internet Consultancy http://www.matrix.clara.net (` o-o ') & Web Design -----------------------------------ooO-(_)-Ooo--------------------------- 51 Things to do in a lift: 13. Greet everyone getting on the lift with a warm handshake and ask them to call you Admiral. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Oct 8 20:22:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA237241 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 20:22:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA18153 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 20:22:02 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma018151; Thu, 8 Oct 98 20:22:02 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:54043 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10754-8559>; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 21:18:04 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154693-11463>; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 08:00:48 -0400 Received: from relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.119.201]:40683 "EHLO relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <155545-11463>; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 06:38:54 -0400 Received: from mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.234]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA03476; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 18:05:41 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from aixterm8.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (shanske@aixterm8.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.48]) by mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA16358; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 18:05:41 +0200 Received: (from shanske@localhost) by aixterm8.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) id SAA78276; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 18:05:40 +0200 (METDST) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 18:05:40 +0200 (METDST) From: Stefan Hanske X-Sender: shanske@aixterm8.urz.uni-heidelberg.de To: Hiroshi Ishii cc: armlinux Subject: Re: egcs-1.0.3 have probrem? In-Reply-To: <361C8E85312.0EDFHIROSHI@mail.funai-tky.co.jp> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 978 Lines: 25 On Thu, 8 Oct 1998, Hiroshi Ishii wrote: > Hi ! ( I send email everyday!!) > > I use egcs-1.0.3 release for aout. I try to compile some > applications, I meet error message; > > undefined reference to '__strtol_internal' > > What's wrong? It's a header file problem. Grep through all your header files on disk (gcc will tell you which search paths it uses) for '__strtol_internal' and try renaming it. Recompile the whole sutff and it should work. ---------------------------------------------------------- |mailto: Stefan Hanske (shanske@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de | |WWW : http://www.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de/~shanske | |phone: I'm not silly | |--------------------------------------------------------| | And don't forget to remember what you remembered not | | to forget to remember... | ---------------------------------------------------------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Oct 8 20:38:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA229187 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 20:38:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA18192 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 20:38:32 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma018190; Thu, 8 Oct 98 20:38:13 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:54043 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10620-8559>; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 21:31:51 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <155505-11463>; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 08:01:37 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:27480 "EHLO globe.nexus.co.uk" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <155925-11463>; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 07:24:32 -0400 Received: from [192.0.0.3] (helo=spring.nexus.co.uk ident=exim) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 0zRJEm-000479-00; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 17:48:24 +0100 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=spring.nexus.co.uk ident=pb) by spring.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 0zRJET-000455-00; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 17:48:05 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Paul Vigay cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Networking problem In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 08 Oct 1998 15:21:41 BST." <4891d87f9cpvigay@interalpha.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 17:48:04 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 288 Lines: 11 >Whenever I try the ifconfig command it keeps giving device not known type >errors. Do you actually have the etherh module loaded? Also can you post the exact error you get (and the command you typed). p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Oct 8 20:52:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA237710 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 20:52:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA18222 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 20:52:32 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma018220; Thu, 8 Oct 98 20:52:28 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:11831 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10815-8559>; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 21:48:05 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <155511-11463>; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 08:01:55 -0400 Received: from mail1.digital.com ([204.123.2.50]:1128 "EHLO mail1.digital.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <155942-11463>; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 07:33:15 -0400 Received: from pobox1.pa.dec.com (pobox1.pa.dec.com [16.1.240.19]) by mail1.digital.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/WV1.0h) with SMTP id KAA04007 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:01:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hood.pa.dec.com by pobox1.pa.dec.com (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/07Nov97-1157AM) id AA22074; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:01:03 -0700 Received: by hood.pa.dec.com; (5.65v4.0/1.1.8.2/06Jun96-0357PM) id AA22855; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:59:19 -0700 From: Dirk Grunwald Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <13852.61286.960360.285977@hood.pa.dec.com> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:59:18 -0700 (PDT) To: larry@scrugs.amt.tay1.dec.com Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, itsy-os@pa.dec.com Subject: SA1100 PID based Virtual addressing In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.48 under Emacs 19.34.2 Reply-To: grunwald@pa.dec.com X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 767 Lines: 17 >>>>> "LS" == Larry Sendlosky writes: LS> I believe somebody posted to the linux-arm list initially (I saw LS> all the traffic) concerning using the SA1100 as basis for some LS> O/S development. Somebody in group recalled a feature of the SA1100 LS> and I don't remember seeing anybody else mention it here. LS> Coprocessor 15, Register 13 is Read/Write Process ID. LS> Bits 30-25 (PID) of this register are OR'd with bits 30-25 of LS> a virtual address. If the PID bits are non-zero, this effectively LS> remaps the virtual address to one of 64 chunks of VA space LS> in the lower 2GB. -- Btw, this same feature will apparently be available in the SA120. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Oct 8 21:03:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA237902 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 21:03:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA18259 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 21:03:03 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma018257; Thu, 8 Oct 98 21:02:57 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:52232 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10667-8559>; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 22:01:08 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154906-11463>; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:31:40 -0400 Received: from mail2.thefree.net ([195.34.192.5]:4894 "HELO mail2.thefree.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <155889-11463>; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 08:17:57 -0400 Received: from mail.thefree.net [195.34.192.14] by mail2.thefree.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-4.06) id AC4C2390296; Thu, 08 Oct 1998 16:46:04 +00d0 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Thu, 08 Oct 1998 17:45:10 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from loopback [195.34.197.21] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Thu, 08 Oct 1998 17:45:09 0000 Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 18:43:21 +0100 From: Chris Sawer To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Java on ARM-Linux? Message-ID: <97f6ea9148%root@usa.net> In-Reply-To: <027001bdf2a1$5934a240$0ea6d789@venus.cs.up.ac.za> Reply-To: chris.sawer@usa.net X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40d for RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60m X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 966 Lines: 22 In message <027001bdf2a1$5934a240$0ea6d789@venus.cs.up.ac.za> "Samuel Kock" wrote: > If you find out, let me know! I downloaded Kaffee version something.\, but > cannot get it to compile. It mumbles aabout it cannot guess my system, even > with Chris sawer's config.guess file. So, if anybody has any ideas/lights, > etc, let me know... I've actually removed the config.guess from my website now, as it's probably easier (and more accurate) to use ./configure --host=arm-linux-gnuaout or whatever. I should put this in the hints and tips section, really. This may help compiling your program - if you do get it working then please let us know as I wouldn't mind Java on my system. Chris -- Chris Sawer - Worthing, Sussex, England http://members.xoom.com/chrissawer/ E-Mail: chris.sawer@usa.net, ICQ: 15010147 PGP public key available on request unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Oct 8 23:21:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA235312 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 23:21:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA18475 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 23:21:32 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma018473; Thu, 8 Oct 98 23:21:04 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:30265 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <3649-30624>; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 00:19:41 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <155444-11463>; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:59:25 -0400 Received: from post.interalpha.co.uk ([195.26.224.14]:17939 "EHLO post" ident: "0") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <155443-11463>; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 08:42:54 -0400 Received: from pvigay.interalpha.co.uk (th-mod61.interalpha.net [195.26.228.252]) by post (8.8.7/8.6.11) with SMTP id TAA28174 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 19:12:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Paul Vigay To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 19:10:50 +0100 Message-ID: <4891ed7a6dpvigay@interalpha.co.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.09k for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: Re: Networking problem In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1136 Lines: 26 In article , Philip Blundell wrote: > >Whenever I try the ifconfig command it keeps giving device not known type > >errors. > Do you actually have the etherh module loaded? Also can you post the exact > error you get (and the command you typed). Well, I've got a bit further now. I did have the module loaded. I tried a modprobe etherh and it came up with a line of parameters etc and seemed to recognise it ok. I then tried the ifconfig eth0 10.1.1.51 and no error was given. However, I still cannot ping my other machines. It just returns "Network unreachable" errors. Any ideas would be appreciated. regards, -- Paul Vigay Acorn Programming, __\\|//__ Internet Consultancy http://www.matrix.clara.net (` o-o ') & Web Design -----------------------------------ooO-(_)-Ooo--------------------------- While we're talking, envious time is fleeing; seize the day, put no trust in the future. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Oct 9 06:55:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA243067 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 06:55:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA19212 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 06:55:04 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma019210; Fri, 9 Oct 98 06:54:48 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:28788 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <6845-30722>; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 07:51:29 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <155471-662>; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:25:30 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1169 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <156067-11463>; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:08:46 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (galatea-33.cableol.net [194.168.16.33]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id WAA02357; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 22:37:29 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA17122; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 22:34:12 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id WAA00729; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 22:36:45 +0100 Message-Id: <199810082136.WAA00729@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: Networking problem To: pvigay@interalpha.co.uk (Paul Vigay) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 22:36:45 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <4891d87f9cpvigay@interalpha.co.uk> from "Paul Vigay" at Oct 8, 98 03:21:41 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1201 Lines: 20 Paul Vigay writes: > I know this is probably an area that a lot of people may have had problems > in, but for some reason I cannot get my ARMLinux installation to work on my > networked RPC. I've installed the latest kernel/modules etc etc (2.0.35) > and I've got the etherh.o etc, but I can't for the life of me work out how > to get it working with my ethernet card. You need to use 'insmod /lib/modules/2.0.35/net/etherh.o' to insert the module into the running kernel first. If this failes, could you please send a copy of the errors, and a copy of the first few lines of kernel messages (found in /var/log/syslog I think). _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Oct 9 08:22:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA248488 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 08:22:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA19397 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 08:22:05 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma019395; Fri, 9 Oct 98 08:21:59 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:40736 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <3342-30722>; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 09:18:42 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <155468-662>; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:21:31 -0400 Received: from post-12.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.41]:43734 "EHLO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <155360-11463>; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:05:20 -0400 Received: from [212.228.115.167] (helo=breezeholme.demon.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.03 #1) id 0zROda-0004kL-00 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 22:34:23 +0000 Received: from nexus.breezeholme.demon.co.uk (bob@nexus.breezeholme.demon.co.uk [172.16.0.1]) by breezeholme.demon.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA00698 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 22:34:55 +0100 Received: from localhost (bob@localhost) by nexus.breezeholme.demon.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA01323 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 23:31:37 +0100 Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 23:31:37 +0100 (BST) From: Robert A Fox Reply-To: Robert A Fox To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Networking problem In-Reply-To: <4891ed7a6dpvigay@interalpha.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 581 Lines: 16 On Thu, 8 Oct 1998, Paul Vigay wrote: > Well, I've got a bit further now. I did have the module loaded. I tried a > modprobe etherh and it came up with a line of parameters etc and seemed to > recognise it ok. I then tried the ifconfig eth0 10.1.1.51 and no error was > given. > > However, I still cannot ping my other machines. It just returns "Network > unreachable" errors. Any ideas would be appreciated. Have you set up the routing table? Can you ping 127.0.0.1 and 10.1.1.51? -- Robert A Fox unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Oct 9 08:22:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA248488 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 08:22:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA19397 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 08:22:05 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma019395; Fri, 9 Oct 98 08:21:59 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:40736 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <3342-30722>; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 09:18:42 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <155468-662>; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:21:31 -0400 Received: from post-12.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.41]:43734 "EHLO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <155360-11463>; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:05:20 -0400 Received: from [212.228.115.167] (helo=breezeholme.demon.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.03 #1) id 0zROda-0004kL-00 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 22:34:23 +0000 Received: from nexus.breezeholme.demon.co.uk (bob@nexus.breezeholme.demon.co.uk [172.16.0.1]) by breezeholme.demon.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA00698 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 22:34:55 +0100 Received: from localhost (bob@localhost) by nexus.breezeholme.demon.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA01323 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 23:31:37 +0100 Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 23:31:37 +0100 (BST) From: Robert A Fox Reply-To: Robert A Fox To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Networking problem In-Reply-To: <4891ed7a6dpvigay@interalpha.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 581 Lines: 16 On Thu, 8 Oct 1998, Paul Vigay wrote: > Well, I've got a bit further now. I did have the module loaded. I tried a > modprobe etherh and it came up with a line of parameters etc and seemed to > recognise it ok. I then tried the ifconfig eth0 10.1.1.51 and no error was > given. > > However, I still cannot ping my other machines. It just returns "Network > unreachable" errors. Any ideas would be appreciated. Have you set up the routing table? Can you ping 127.0.0.1 and 10.1.1.51? -- Robert A Fox unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Oct 9 08:28:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA248948 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 08:28:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA19406 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 08:28:05 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma019403; Fri, 9 Oct 98 08:27:47 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:40736 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2607-30722>; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 09:24:42 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154750-662>; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:27:52 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:4236 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <155961-11463>; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:26:25 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0zROoQ-0004NX-00; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 23:45:34 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Paul Vigay cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Networking problem In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 08 Oct 1998 19:10:50 BST." <4891ed7a6dpvigay@interalpha.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 23:45:34 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 290 Lines: 12 >However, I still cannot ping my other machines. It just returns "Network >unreachable" errors. Any ideas would be appreciated. You haven't set up a route to your network. # route add -net n.n.n.n dev eth0 p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Oct 9 08:28:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA248948 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 08:28:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA19406 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 08:28:05 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma019403; Fri, 9 Oct 98 08:27:47 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:40736 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2607-30722>; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 09:24:42 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154750-662>; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:27:52 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:4236 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <155961-11463>; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:26:25 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0zROoQ-0004NX-00; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 23:45:34 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Paul Vigay cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Networking problem In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 08 Oct 1998 19:10:50 BST." <4891ed7a6dpvigay@interalpha.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 23:45:34 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 290 Lines: 12 >However, I still cannot ping my other machines. It just returns "Network >unreachable" errors. Any ideas would be appreciated. You haven't set up a route to your network. # route add -net n.n.n.n dev eth0 p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Oct 9 13:49:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA286974 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 13:49:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA20482 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 13:49:09 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma020480; Fri, 9 Oct 98 13:48:48 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:2911 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <3042-30722>; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 14:43:48 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <155516-662>; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 01:06:53 -0400 Received: from cr10m.staffs.ac.uk ([193.60.4.10]:2757 "EHLO cr10m.staffs.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <156030-662>; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 23:49:48 -0400 Received: from delenn (sth193.staffs.ac.uk [193.62.26.193]) by cr10m.staffs.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA17173; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:22:21 +0100 (BST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ian Molton To: chris.sawer@usa.net Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 10:22:25 +0100 Message-ID: <489240ef4bmh120608@staffs.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.08g for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: Re: Hi there... In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 547 Lines: 16 On 08 Oct, Chris Sawer wrote: > I haven't actually installed 2.0.35 yet (I downloaded 2.0.34 the day > before 2.0.35 came out!) I've got it sorted now - it was those damn symlinks in /usr/include. 2.0.35 looks nice :-) -- -Ian aka Lennier Acorn Computers, the best in the world http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/ BaBe - Women's human rights organisation in Croatia http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/babe/ Preferences: Cats, Zap, Purple, Aspie unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Oct 9 21:45:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA292719 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 21:45:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA21489 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 21:45:39 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma021487; Fri, 9 Oct 98 21:45:12 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:39222 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <5310-30722>; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 22:41:26 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <156050-662>; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 08:02:51 -0400 Received: from post-12.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.41]:53975 "EHLO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <156330-662>; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 07:51:59 -0400 Received: from [158.152.96.167] (helo=defaid.demon.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.03 #1) id 0zRgJA-0001TS-00 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 17:26:28 +0000 Received: from localhost (melanie@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by defaid.demon.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA00823 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:22:37 +0100 Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:22:36 +0100 (BST) From: Melanie Rhianna Lewis Reply-To: Melanie Rhianna Lewis To: Arm Linux mailing list Subject: ELF tools / cross compilers Message-ID: Organization: Trans-world BBS [+44 117 904 0901] X-Mailer: Pine 3.96 X-Host: Melanie's Linux Box - Mournblade X-MandM-To: ALL MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 738 Lines: 21 Are there any FAQs/Web pages etc about : a) Building 32 bit ELF tools for ArmLinux b) Building cross compilers (iX86 -> Arm) I'm pretty good with linux and it seems a shame that I can't make use of my Intel Linux box to build Arm Linux stuff. Plus I would like to have a go at building some ELF stuff. Melanie -- ===================================================================== Melanie Rhianna Lewis melanie@defaid.demon.co.uk "An it hurt none, do what thou will" http://www.defaid.demon.co.uk TLBB#2 TGMCC#1 - MZ125, X7 (Under re-construction) ===================================================================== unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Oct 9 17:15:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA277454 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 17:15:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA21056 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 17:15:39 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma021054; Fri, 9 Oct 98 17:15:17 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:10354 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <5181-30624>; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 18:11:03 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <155535-662>; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 04:50:04 -0400 Received: from post.interalpha.co.uk ([195.26.224.14]:7294 "EHLO post" ident: "0") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <155889-662>; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 03:57:59 -0400 Received: from pvigay.interalpha.co.uk (th-mod05.interalpha.net [195.26.228.196]) by post (8.8.7/8.6.11) with SMTP id OAA31919 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 14:33:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Paul Vigay To: Linux mailing list Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 14:18:39 +0100 Message-ID: <4892569044pvigay@interalpha.co.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.09k for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: Re: Networking problem In-Reply-To: <199810082136.WAA00729@raistlin.armlinux.org> Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 1613 Lines: 35 In article <199810082136.WAA00729@raistlin.armlinux.org>, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote: > You need to use 'insmod /lib/modules/2.0.35/net/etherh.o' to insert the > module > into the running kernel first. If this failes, could you please send a copy > of the errors, and a copy of the first few lines of kernel messages (found > in /var/log/syslog I think). Thanks. I've now got it working (well, I can ping my other machines ok). Before the insmod etherh.o worked though I had to insmod a couple of the other modules in the same directory as etherh.o (9830.o and something else - can't remember the names offhand). I then did a modprobe etherh followed by the relevant ifconfig and route add commands. I edited one of the sysconfig files to include these commands so that networking is enabled when I boot into ArmLinux, but I was wondering if there is a 'correct' file somewhere that I should edit. I've actually just bunged them in /etc/rc.d/init.d/network (I think, but without booting into Linux I can't remember). Is this correct, or should I set the networking up in a different file? regards, Paul -- Paul Vigay Acorn Programming, __\\|//__ Internet Consultancy http://www.matrix.clara.net (` o-o ') & Web Design -----------------------------------ooO-(_)-Ooo--------------------------- 51 Things to do in a lift: 33. When the lift is silent, look around and ask "is that your beeper?" unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Oct 9 20:55:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA299406 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 20:55:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA21383 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 20:55:39 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma021381; Fri, 9 Oct 98 20:55:32 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:39222 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <6347-30624>; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 21:51:18 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <155555-662>; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 07:55:19 -0400 Received: from red.csi.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.8.70]:63836 "EHLO red.csi.cam.ac.uk" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <155938-662>; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 06:35:11 -0400 Received: from ajp38 (helo=localhost) by red.csi.cam.ac.uk with local-smtp (Exim 2.04 #1) id 0zRf6e-0000Iz-00 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 17:09:28 +0100 Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 17:09:28 +0100 (BST) From: "(Tony)John" X-Sender: ajp38@red.csi.cam.ac.uk To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Ethernet fun In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1082 Lines: 31 Don't know if you got this the first time.... > > Since Russell released a new kernel and bootdiscs over the summer > (30.8.98) I just had another go at installing Linux. > > The problem is the same as when I tried before - it doesn't recognise > my ANT EtherB card (upon selecting Ether3/EtherB). However this time > it gave some error messages which might be useful: > > /bin/insmod returned 1 > Unable to load module 'ether3' > > The machine is: RISC PC600, ARM610, 24+1Mb RAM, 210+730Mb HD (Kernel > is on adfs::5 which is a WD Caviar and has caused problems in the > past), ANT network slot 10BaseT (EtherB), Atomwide podule 10Base2 > (Ether3 - not connected), RO3.5 and the J233 disc image. > > John > > -- > ...he could spell Tuesday so that you knew that it wasn't Wednesday, > and he could read quite comfortably when you weren't looking over his > shoulder and saying "Well" all the time... -- Everybody said "How-do-you-do" to Eeyore, and Eeyore said that he didn't, not to notice... unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Oct 9 22:05:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA300779 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 22:05:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA21523 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 22:05:39 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma021521; Fri, 9 Oct 98 22:05:36 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:46456 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <6995-30624>; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 23:04:02 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154826-662>; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 09:09:47 -0400 Received: from violet.csi.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.8.58]:54989 "EHLO violet.csi.cam.ac.uk" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154602-662>; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 07:09:42 -0400 Received: from jtb20.quns.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.141.183] helo=jtb20) by violet.csi.cam.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 2.04 #1) id 0zRfdt-0003PL-00 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 17:43:49 +0100 Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 17:43:35 +0100 From: Julian Brown To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Ethernet installation problems Message-ID: Organization: Queens' College Cambridge X-Mailer: Messenger v1.34c for RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.61b X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1055 Lines: 22 Hi all, I would like to install ArmLinux via FTP (this would be the easiest method for me by far), but the installer won't recognize my ANT EtherB netcard-slot interface (the module returns 1 and fails to initialize). I currently have a 'slightly' hacked version of RiscBSD installed, and before I remove it I would like to have some reassurance that the interface will work once ArmLinux is installed if I would have to jump through hoops (...again...) to install it by different method. (I installed it once before by downloading the distribution onto a PC with Linux and physically swapping the PC hard drive for the CD-ROM in my machine). The CGI error-reporting form on the ArmLinux website doesn't seem to work with Browse, by the way. I used the most recent (31/8/1998) kernel and disc images. I have a 233MHz StrongARM, 1.2Gb hard disc (partitioned to about 850Mb & 350Mb for Risc OS and Unix respectively), 36Mb DRAM and 2Mb VRAM. Thanks for your help, Julian Brown unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Oct 9 22:45:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA301292 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 22:45:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA21582 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 22:45:39 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma021580; Fri, 9 Oct 98 22:45:30 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:29496 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10257-30722>; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 23:43:16 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154695-662>; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:06:34 -0400 Received: from cr10m.staffs.ac.uk ([193.60.4.10]:2218 "EHLO cr10m.staffs.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <156047-662>; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 08:02:23 -0400 Received: from delenn (sth193.staffs.ac.uk [193.62.26.193]) by cr10m.staffs.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA22953 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 18:36:42 +0100 (BST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ian Molton To: ARMlinux mailing list Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 18:35:54 +0100 Message-ID: <48926e1dc4mh120608@staffs.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.08g for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: EGCS and ELF Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 541 Lines: 18 What do I need to do to get a system capable of compiling elf and (therefore) 2.1.xxx kernels ? I am running a custom kernel 2.0.35 build with elf support enabled at the moment, so I assume all I need is an elf compiler. how ? thanks! -- -Ian aka Lennier Acorn Computers, the best in the world http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/ BaBe - Women's human rights organisation in Croatia http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/babe/ Preferences: Cats, Zap, Purple, Aspie unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Oct 11 11:28:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA120526 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 11:28:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA24515 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 11:28:48 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma024513; Sun, 11 Oct 98 11:28:28 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:16158 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <8771-13692>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 12:28:09 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <155188-19981>; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 15:59:08 -0400 Received: from cr10m.staffs.ac.uk ([193.60.4.10]:3638 "EHLO cr10m.staffs.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <155468-19981>; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 13:26:25 -0400 Received: from delenn (sth193.staffs.ac.uk [193.62.26.193]) by cr10m.staffs.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA16561 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 00:07:09 +0100 (BST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ian Molton To: ARMlinux mailing list Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 18:41:43 +0100 Message-ID: <48926ea646mh120608@staffs.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.08g for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: MP3 player for linux Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 571 Lines: 18 I am interested in mp3's is there a player for ARMlinux? if not, where can I get source for one? (I am prepared to get my hands dirty and have a go at optimising it in ARM assembler) better still, is there a good description of how mp3 works? (as well as source) ? -- -Ian aka Lennier Acorn Computers, the best in the world http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/ BaBe - Women's human rights organisation in Croatia http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/babe/ Preferences: Cats, Zap, Purple, Aspie unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From pvigay@interalpha.co.uk Fri Oct 9 20:57:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA275311 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 20:57:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA21388 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 20:57:09 +0200 Received: from post.interalpha.co.uk(195.26.224.14) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma021386; Fri, 9 Oct 98 20:56:53 +0200 Received: from pvigay.interalpha.co.uk (th-mod32.interalpha.net [195.26.228.223]) by post.interalpha.net (8.8.7/8.6.11) with SMTP id TAA13679; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 19:58:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Paul Vigay To: Matthew Wilcox Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 19:52:04 +0100 Message-ID: <48927515afpvigay@interalpha.co.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.09k for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: Re: Networking problem In-Reply-To: <19981009220213.B264@genedata.com> Content-Type: text/plain Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 1174 Lines: 26 On 09 Oct, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > Personally, I can never figure out where any RedHat thing is meant to go. > I just stuck mine in the same file that the fpem is loaded in. If it's > working for you, then don't worry where you put it. By the way, if you > want to check your Linux stuff from RISC OS, then I can recommend IscaFS > by Phil Norman with additional hacks from myself. You can fetch > it from ftp://ftp.barnet.ac.uk/pub/Acorn/armlinux/iscafs/iscafs.zip Thanks. Incidentally, I did download a copy of this the other day but I couldn't quite work out how to use it. I presume it's CLI driven as no icon appears. Perhaps I'll have another look over the weekend. ..now to get ppp working so I can connect to the internet from Linux...!! :-) regards, and thanks again. Paul -- Paul Vigay Acorn Programming, __\\|//__ Internet Consultancy Web: http://www.matrix.clara.net (` o-o ') & Web Design BBS: +44 (0)1705 871531 (ansi,8n1) -----ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------------- No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Oct 10 00:45:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA303547 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 00:45:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA21781 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 00:45:09 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma021779; Sat, 10 Oct 98 00:44:53 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:25649 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <6624-5254>; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 01:43:04 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154563-662>; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:00:03 -0400 Received: from post.interalpha.co.uk ([195.26.224.14]:18527 "EHLO post.interalpha.net" ident: "0") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154603-662>; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 09:22:05 -0400 Received: from pvigay.interalpha.co.uk (th-mod32.interalpha.net [195.26.228.223]) by post.interalpha.net (8.8.7/8.6.11) with SMTP id TAA13679; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 19:58:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Paul Vigay To: Matthew Wilcox Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 19:52:04 +0100 Message-ID: <48927515afpvigay@interalpha.co.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.09k for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: Re: Networking problem In-Reply-To: <19981009220213.B264@genedata.com> Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1249 Lines: 27 On 09 Oct, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > Personally, I can never figure out where any RedHat thing is meant to go. > I just stuck mine in the same file that the fpem is loaded in. If it's > working for you, then don't worry where you put it. By the way, if you > want to check your Linux stuff from RISC OS, then I can recommend IscaFS > by Phil Norman with additional hacks from myself. You can fetch > it from ftp://ftp.barnet.ac.uk/pub/Acorn/armlinux/iscafs/iscafs.zip Thanks. Incidentally, I did download a copy of this the other day but I couldn't quite work out how to use it. I presume it's CLI driven as no icon appears. Perhaps I'll have another look over the weekend. ..now to get ppp working so I can connect to the internet from Linux...!! :-) regards, and thanks again. Paul -- Paul Vigay Acorn Programming, __\\|//__ Internet Consultancy Web: http://www.matrix.clara.net (` o-o ') & Web Design BBS: +44 (0)1705 871531 (ansi,8n1) -----ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------------- No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Oct 9 22:52:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA286591 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 22:52:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA21598 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 22:52:09 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma021596; Fri, 9 Oct 98 22:51:59 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:29496 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10993-30624>; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 23:49:37 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <156054-662>; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:07:51 -0400 Received: from mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com ([157.161.173.16]:13002 "EHLO mail.core.genedata.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <155967-662>; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 08:21:29 -0400 Received: from relay.ch.genedata.com (pinatubo.ch.genedata.com [157.161.173.32]) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA21299; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 19:56:01 +0200 Received: from mencheca.ch.genedata.com (root@mencheca.ch.genedata.com [157.161.173.204]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA298067; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 19:55:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: by genedata.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.101) for pvigay@interalpha.co.uk; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 22:02:13 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <19981009220213.B264@genedata.com> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 22:02:13 +0200 From: Matthew Wilcox To: Paul Vigay , Linux mailing list Subject: Re: Networking problem References: <199810082136.WAA00729@raistlin.armlinux.org> <4892569044pvigay@interalpha.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.2 In-Reply-To: <4892569044pvigay@interalpha.co.uk>; from Paul Vigay on Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 02:18:39PM +0100 X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 2166 Lines: 42 On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 02:18:39PM +0100, Paul Vigay wrote: > In article <199810082136.WAA00729@raistlin.armlinux.org>, > Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote: > > > You need to use 'insmod /lib/modules/2.0.35/net/etherh.o' to insert the > > module > > into the running kernel first. If this failes, could you please send a copy > > of the errors, and a copy of the first few lines of kernel messages (found > > in /var/log/syslog I think). > > Thanks. I've now got it working (well, I can ping my other machines ok). > Before the insmod etherh.o worked though I had to insmod a couple of the > other modules in the same directory as etherh.o (9830.o and something else - > can't remember the names offhand). > > I then did a modprobe etherh followed by the relevant ifconfig and route add > commands. The difference between insmod & modprobe is that modprobe will load any modules which the loaded modules depends on - see /lib/modules/2.0.35/modules.dep for an example. > I edited one of the sysconfig files to include these commands so that > networking is enabled when I boot into ArmLinux, but I was wondering if there > is a 'correct' file somewhere that I should edit. I've actually just bunged > them in /etc/rc.d/init.d/network (I think, but without booting into Linux I > can't remember). Is this correct, or should I set the networking up in a > different file? Personally, I can never figure out where any RedHat thing is meant to go. I just stuck mine in the same file that the fpem is loaded in. If it's working for you, then don't worry where you put it. By the way, if you want to check your Linux stuff from RISC OS, then I can recommend IscaFS by Phil Norman with additional hacks from myself. You can fetch it from ftp://ftp.barnet.ac.uk/pub/Acorn/armlinux/iscafs/iscafs.zip -- Matthew Wilcox "I decry the current tendency to seek patents on algorithms. There are better ways to earn a living than to prevent other people from making use of one's contributions to computer science." -- Donald E. Knuth, TAoCP vol 3 unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Oct 10 04:00:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA306171 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 04:00:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id EAA22073 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 04:00:44 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma022071; Sat, 10 Oct 98 04:00:43 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:24862 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <5805-5254>; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 04:58:20 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <155102-662>; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 14:45:25 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:4369 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <156092-662>; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 13:17:12 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0zRlF3-0005AB-00; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 23:42:33 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Melanie Rhianna Lewis cc: Arm Linux mailing list Subject: Re: ELF tools / cross compilers In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 09 Oct 1998 12:22:36 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 23:42:33 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 934 Lines: 23 >Are there any FAQs/Web pages etc about : > >a) Building 32 bit ELF tools for ArmLinux >b) Building cross compilers (iX86 -> Arm) The GCC documentation describes the latter and the former is really just a special case of it. In rough order, you need to: 1. Build and install binutils (configure with --prefix=/usr --target=arm-linux) 2. Make sure the kernel headers are in place (/usr/arm-linux/include/asm etc) 3. Build GCC (configure with same options as binutils and make LANGUAGES=c). Don't try to build Obj, C++ or anything like that, it won't work at this stage. Install the C compiler. 4. Build glibc (configure with --host=armlinux, --build=whatever, --prefix=/ usr/arm-linux). Install it, but double-check you got the prefix right before you do or you will be hosed. 5. Go back and compile the rest of GCC. 6. You should be in business p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Oct 11 01:21:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA226127 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 01:21:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id BAA23681 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 01:21:17 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma023679; Sun, 11 Oct 98 01:20:50 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:16481 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <8399-13692>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 02:19:46 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154557-15794>; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 02:25:46 -0400 Received: from post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.27]:56944 "EHLO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154913-2271>; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 01:29:40 -0400 Received: from [194.222.203.84] (helo=merton-house.demon.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.03 #1) id 0zRwsx-0000dQ-00 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 11:08:33 +0000 Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 12:07:32 +0100 From: Matt Nicholls To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: gcc and binutils Message-ID: <6e65ce9248%matt@merton-house.demon.co.uk> Reply-To: matt@merton-house.demon.co.uk X-Organization: Matt Nicholls X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40d for RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60m X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 491 Lines: 14 Hi. I want to compile new version of both gcc and binutils. Just one question... which versions of binutils and gcc support ARM Linux??? Thanks in advance, -- __ __ _ _ | \/ |__ _| |_| |_ matt@merton-house.demon.co.uk | |\/| / _` | _| _| www.altern.org/dhcomet/ |_| |_\__,_|\__|\__| ICQ UIN : 15479212 There are no stupid questions. However, MS-DOS is a good example of a stupid answer unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Oct 11 03:55:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA319076 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 03:55:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id DAA23906 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 03:55:18 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma023904; Sun, 11 Oct 98 03:54:54 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:59952 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <8694-10851>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 04:53:16 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <155947-19981>; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 13:52:41 -0400 Received: from studict.student.utwente.nl ([130.89.220.2]:1894 "EHLO studict.student.utwente.nl" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <156114-15794>; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 03:34:31 -0400 Received: from poekie.test. (ut240232.inbel.utwente.nl [130.89.240.232]) by studict.student.utwente.nl (8.8.6/MQT) with ESMTP id PAA27866 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 15:13:54 +0200 (METDST) Received: (from mark@localhost) by poekie.test. (8.8.7/8.6.9) id PAA17019 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 15:12:40 +0200 Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 15:12:40 +0200 From: Mark van Doesburg Illegal-Object: Syntax error in Message-Id: value found on vger.rutgers.edu: Message-Id: <199810101312.PAA17019@poekie.test.> ^-illegal subdomain in domain, propably extra '.' at the end of the address To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: bottom handler X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Message-Id: <19981010200943Z155947-19981+22@vger.rutgers.edu> Status: RO Content-Length: 572 Lines: 13 I've written a network driver for networking over PCI. This driver works OK on the i386 and also works OK on the arm when i have the debugging messages on the console enabled. When i disable the debugging messages on the arm the driver stops working. I've found out that the networking bottom handler is not run even though it is marked to run. I've been searching for the cause of this problem for the last two days and haven't found it yet, any suggestions would be welcome. greetings, Mark. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Oct 11 10:00:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA331225 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 10:00:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA24385 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 10:00:48 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma024383; Sun, 11 Oct 98 10:00:35 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:20248 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <6836-10851>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 11:00:03 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154838-19981>; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 14:23:04 -0400 Received: from post-12.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.41]:50998 "EHLO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <155942-15794>; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 12:59:09 -0400 Received: from [212.228.88.2] (helo=reinhouse.demon.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.03 #1) id 0zS74J-0000SU-00; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 22:01:01 +0000 Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 22:44:01 +0100 From: Timothy Baldwin To: philb@gnu.org Cc: melanie@defaid.demon.co.uk, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ELF tools / cross compilers Message-ID: <1eab89348%tim@reinhouse.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40d for RISC OS X-Editor: Zap, using ZapEmail 0.21beta MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60m X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 635 Lines: 18 In message Philip Blundell wrote: > >Are there any FAQs/Web pages etc about : > > > >a) Building 32 bit ELF tools for ArmLinux > >b) Building cross compilers (iX86 -> Arm) [snip] > 4. Build glibc (configure with --host=armlinux, --build=whatever, > --prefix=/usr/arm-linux). Install it, but double-check you got the > prefix right before you do or you will be hosed. Why not in /usr (ie. the default)? Philip you did not say which version of GCC, and where to get it from. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Oct 11 17:40:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA336313 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 17:40:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA24968 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 17:40:48 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma024966; Sun, 11 Oct 98 17:40:18 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:56176 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <5850-13692>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 18:39:55 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <156530-7107>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 04:01:20 -0400 Received: from nas3-34.thefree.net ([195.34.195.162]:1488 "EHLO hyperspace.m1cjd.ampr.org" ident: "TIMEDOUT2") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <153950-7107>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 00:22:12 -0400 Received: from localhost (IDENT:alex@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by hyperspace.m1cjd.ampr.org (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id KAA01230; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 10:14:34 +0100 Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 10:14:34 +0100 (BST) From: Alex Holden To: Mark van Doesburg cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: bottom handler In-Reply-To: <19981010200943Z155947-19981+22@vger.rutgers.edu> Message-ID: X-OS: Linux-2.1.125 X-Mailer: Pine 3.96 X-Subliminal-Message: Use Linux! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 744 Lines: 14 On Sat, 10 Oct 1998, Mark van Doesburg wrote: > I've written a network driver for networking over PCI. This driver works > OK on the i386 and also works OK on the arm when i have the debugging > messages on the console enabled. When i disable the debugging messages on > the arm the driver stops working. I've found out that the networking > bottom handler is not run even though it is marked to run. It's the Heisenburg Uncertainty Principle in action ;) --------------- Linux- the choice of a GNU generation. -------------- : Alex Holden (M1CJD)- Caver, Programmer, Land Rover nut, Radio Ham : -------------------- http://www.linuxhacker.org/ -------------------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Oct 11 17:22:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA336129 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 17:22:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA24943 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 17:22:18 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma024941; Sun, 11 Oct 98 17:21:53 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:56176 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <9079-13692>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 18:20:48 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <153865-7107>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 04:22:25 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1494 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <156260-7107>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 02:03:08 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (galatea-79.cableol.net [194.168.16.79] (may be forged)) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id MAA27967; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 12:47:54 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA21156; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 10:13:18 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id KAA00474; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 10:16:07 +0100 Message-Id: <199810110916.KAA00474@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: bottom handler To: m.j.s.vandoesburg@student.utwente.nl (Mark van Doesburg) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 10:16:07 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <19981010200943Z155947-19981+22@vger.rutgers.edu> from "Mark van Doesburg" at Oct 10, 98 03:12:40 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1595 Lines: 29 Mark van Doesburg writes: > I've written a network driver for networking over PCI. This driver works > OK on the i386 and also works OK on the arm when i have the debugging > messages on the console enabled. When i disable the debugging messages on > the arm the driver stops working. I've found out that the networking > bottom handler is not run even though it is marked to run. Thinking about this, if it was the case that the net_bh was not being run when a mark_bh(NET_BH) was, then how could networking possibly work? You don't say what kernel version you're using, which release date, nor where you got the kernel sources from, so I can't investigate your symptoms myself and suggest possible reasons. Also, it would be helpful to know which version of GCC and binutils you're using to compile up the kernel. However, looking at the code as it stands in the latest 2.1 kernels, I can see no reason for your symptoms. You may be seeing a side effect of schedule() calling do_bottom_half, or even a compiler bug. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Oct 11 16:48:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA331438 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 16:48:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA24904 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 16:48:18 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma024902; Sun, 11 Oct 98 16:48:09 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:49948 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <8996-10851>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 17:46:44 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154512-7107>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 04:19:31 -0400 Received: from post-12.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.41]:64101 "EHLO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <155260-7107>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 01:30:03 -0400 Received: from [158.152.96.167] (helo=defaid.demon.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.03 #1) id 0zSJSk-0002Yf-00; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 11:14:59 +0000 Received: from stormbringer (stormbringer [192.168.0.129]) by defaid.demon.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA01266; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 11:44:47 +0100 Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 12:43:25 +0100 (BST) From: Melanie Rhianna Lewis X-Sender: melanie@stormbringer To: Timothy Baldwin cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ELF tools / cross compilers In-Reply-To: <1eab89348%tim@reinhouse.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: Organization: Trans-world BBS [+44 117 904 0901] X-Mailer: Pine 3.96 X-Host: Melanie's ArmLinux Box - Stormbringer X-MandM-To: ALL MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 899 Lines: 24 On Sat, 10 Oct 1998, Timothy Baldwin wrote: > In message > Philip Blundell wrote: > > > 4. Build glibc (configure with --host=armlinux, --build=whatever, > > --prefix=/usr/arm-linux). Install it, but double-check you got the > > prefix right before you do or you will be hosed. > > Why not in /usr (ie. the default)? Because I asked about a cross compiler and so if I used the default it would overwrite my ix86 GCC and Binutils. Melanie -- ========================================================================== Melanie Rhianna Lewis melanie@defaid.demon.co.uk Brought to you by Melanie's RiscPC, Stormbringer running ArmLinux! ========================================================================== unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Oct 11 19:30:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA316446 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 19:30:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA25097 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 19:30:48 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma025095; Sun, 11 Oct 98 19:30:30 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:13093 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <5855-13692>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 20:28:15 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <153967-7107>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 06:11:55 -0400 Received: from studict.student.utwente.nl ([130.89.220.2]:3754 "EHLO studict.student.utwente.nl" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <153989-7107>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 04:27:05 -0400 Received: from poekie.test. (ut240232.inbel.utwente.nl [130.89.240.232]) by studict.student.utwente.nl (8.8.6/MQT) with ESMTP id QAA16040 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 16:13:31 +0200 (METDST) Received: (from mark@localhost) by poekie.test. (8.8.7/8.6.9) id QAA22172 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 16:12:38 +0200 Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 16:12:38 +0200 From: Mark van Doesburg Illegal-Object: Syntax error in Message-Id: value found on vger.rutgers.edu: Message-Id: <199810111412.QAA22172@poekie.test.> ^-illegal subdomain in domain, propably extra '.' at the end of the address To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: bottom handler X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Message-Id: <19981011113841Z153967-7107+366@vger.rutgers.edu> Status: RO Content-Length: 3570 Lines: 82 Thinking about this, if it was the case that the net_bh was not being run when a mark_bh(NET_BH) was, then how could networking possibly work? OK, it seems like i've really not give enough information. You don't say what kernel version you're using, which release date, nor where you got the kernel sources from, so I can't investigate your symptoms myself and suggest possible reasons. Also, it would be helpful to know which version of GCC and binutils you're using to compile up the kernel. I'm using kernel 2.1.123 with your pre-patch-2.1.123-19981004-1. The compiler i use is egcs-1.1b with P. Blundell's egcs-19980824-arm-diff-980829 patch applied. However, looking at the code as it stands in the latest 2.1 kernels, I can see no reason for your symptoms. You may be seeing a side effect of schedule() calling do_bottom_half, or even a compiler bug. I will upgrade the compiler immediatly. Here's what i've done and get: First i've taken the ebsa-285 architecture and created another one from it, you might remember it from the remapping discussion. The second thing i've done was to add a console/tty driver for the serial port on the 21285. The third thing was to add the PCI networking driver. Now, when i boot the system i get the kernel boot messages on a terminal. So the remapping of the kernel and the serial driver seem to be OK. When it continues it gets to the network driver i've written, this gives some comments about the initialisation which are exactly what i expected them to be. Then it starts to mount a root file system, since i've enabled the debugging option for the NFS-root code (compile time option) i get messages which tell me its found the mountd and the nfsd ports. When i enable the debugging messages in my own code everything continues as it should. It mounts the root and then panics because it cannot find init. However when i reduce the debugging messages to a single character it no longer works. It still finds the nfsd/mountd ports correctly but it stops when actually mounting the file system. The single character debugging messages i print on the console are: r interrupt from the I2O inbound post list, a packet to receive is detected. x send a packet. b running network bottom handler. When i ping the strongarm from the i386 i can see the packets arrive on the sa because i get r's on the terminal. I can also see the bottom handler is not run since the b's do not appear. I've tried how long the debugging have to be in order to get this thing working. It turns out te be 10 characters. If i replace the r message with 10 r's the system mounts the root. The reason for this might be the serial driver. The 21285 serial port has a output fifo which causes the tx-interrupt to be signaled when less than 8 characters are in it. If i send one or more characters the driver puts them in a buffer. After putting the data in the buffer it enables the tx-interrupt. When there is enough room in the fifo the interrupt routine is called. This routine fills the fifo from the buffer. If there is no data left to send in the buffer it disables the tx-interrupt. In both one character and the ten char case the interrupt routine is called only once since the tx-fifo is 16 bytes long. I know this is a lot of new code at the same time, but its the only thing i can try. I would be really happy if someone was willing to test my 21285 console/tty driver, just mail me if you want to try my patch. greetings, Mark. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Oct 11 21:51:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA310429 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 21:51:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA25299 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 21:51:18 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma025297; Sun, 11 Oct 98 21:50:51 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:64560 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <8317-13692>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 22:50:12 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154331-7107>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 09:12:36 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:4517 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <154143-7107>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 08:23:57 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0zSPni-0006YA-00; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 19:01:02 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: matt@merton-house.demon.co.uk cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: gcc and binutils In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 10 Oct 1998 12:07:32 BST." <6e65ce9248%matt@merton-house.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 19:01:02 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 436 Lines: 13 >I want to compile new version of both gcc and binutils. Just one >question... which versions of binutils and gcc support ARM Linux??? The tools I recommend are binutils-2.9.1.0.15 and egcs-1.1 plus the latest patches from vger.rutgers.edu:/pub/gcc/arm. Others still favour gcc-2.7.2.2; your mileage might vary. Russell, can you put this in the FAQ? p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Oct 11 21:52:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA340117 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 21:52:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA25304 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 21:52:48 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma025302; Sun, 11 Oct 98 21:52:45 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:64560 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <8867-10851>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 22:52:32 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154167-7107>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 09:23:03 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:4525 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "TIMEDOUT2") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <154479-7107>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 08:31:05 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0zSPqY-0006ZV-00; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 19:03:58 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Timothy Baldwin cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ELF tools / cross compilers In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 10 Oct 1998 22:44:01 BST." <1eab89348%tim@reinhouse.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 19:03:58 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 823 Lines: 20 >> 4. Build glibc (configure with --host=armlinux, --build=whatever, >> --prefix=/usr/arm-linux). Install it, but double-check you got the >> prefix right before you do or you will be hosed. > >Why not in /usr (ie. the default)? Because if you're configuring for cross compiling and you put your ARM library in /usr it will overwrite your native libraries with hilarious consequences. The compiler and binutils can be configured with --prefix=/usr because their installation scripts are smart enough to spot that you're building a cross compiler and the tools actually end up in /usr/arm-linux/.. in any case. >Philip you did not say which version of GCC, and where to get it from. I've posted this information many times already. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Oct 11 21:21:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA340473 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 21:21:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA25261 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 21:21:48 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma025259; Sun, 11 Oct 98 21:21:42 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:64560 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <8723-10851>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 22:19:25 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154651-7107>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 08:48:07 -0400 Received: from studict.student.utwente.nl ([130.89.220.2]:4225 "EHLO studict.student.utwente.nl" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <155141-7107>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 08:19:55 -0400 Received: from poekie.test. (ut240232.inbel.utwente.nl [130.89.240.232]) by studict.student.utwente.nl (8.8.6/MQT) with ESMTP id UAA09496; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 20:07:41 +0200 (METDST) Received: (from mark@localhost) by poekie.test. (8.8.7/8.6.9) id UAA23600; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 20:04:06 +0200 Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 20:04:06 +0200 From: Mark van Doesburg Illegal-Object: Syntax error in Message-Id: value found on vger.rutgers.edu: Message-Id: <199810111804.UAA23600@poekie.test.> ^-illegal subdomain in domain, propably extra '.' at the end of the address To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, linux@arm.uk.linux.org Subject: bottom handler X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Message-Id: <19981011133012Z154651-7107+506@vger.rutgers.edu> Status: RO Content-Length: 943 Lines: 38 Apperently the serial interrupt stays asserted all the time. The following code is from the serial driver: static void rs285_tx_int(int irq, void *dev_id, struct pt_regs *regs) { static int i; if(++i>500000) { leds_event(red_toggle); i=0; } while(!(*CSR_UARTFLG&0x20)) { if(x_char) { *CSR_UARTDR=x_char; x_char=0; continue; } if(putp==getp) { *CSR_IRQ_DISABLE=0x8; break; } *CSR_UARTDR=*getp; if(++getp>=wbuf+sizeof(wbuf)) getp=wbuf; } *CSR_IRQ_DISABLE=0x8; } As you can see the interrupt for the tx interrupt is turned off in this interrupt. The interrupt handler however continues to be called as i can see the red led blinking. Does anyone know if the CSR_IRQ_* registers of the 21285 are modified somewhere in the interrupt code, so the change i make gets undone ? (is this an incorrect way to disable the irq ?) Mark. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Oct 11 21:59:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA340279 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 21:59:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA25311 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 21:59:48 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma025309; Sun, 11 Oct 98 21:59:38 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:64560 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <8768-13692>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 22:57:11 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <153680-7107>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 09:23:39 -0400 Received: from studict.student.utwente.nl ([130.89.220.2]:4255 "EHLO studict.student.utwente.nl" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154478-7107>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 08:30:59 -0400 Received: from poekie.test. (ut240232.inbel.utwente.nl [130.89.240.232]) by studict.student.utwente.nl (8.8.6/MQT) with ESMTP id UAA10602; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 20:18:49 +0200 (METDST) Received: (from mark@localhost) by poekie.test. (8.8.7/8.6.9) id UAA23771; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 20:18:07 +0200 Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 20:18:07 +0200 From: Mark van Doesburg Illegal-Object: Syntax error in Message-Id: value found on vger.rutgers.edu: Message-Id: <199810111818.UAA23771@poekie.test.> ^-illegal subdomain in domain, propably extra '.' at the end of the address To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, linux@arm.uk.linux.org Subject: bottom handler X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Message-Id: <19981011140737Z153680-7107+538@vger.rutgers.edu> Status: RO Content-Length: 259 Lines: 9 I've found the bug. I needed to turn the irq off with disable_irq(3). (My previous mail was a bit premature, sorry for the noise) Thanks for all your help Russell. greetings, Mark. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Oct 11 22:26:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA329957 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 22:26:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA25353 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 22:26:18 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma025351; Sun, 11 Oct 98 22:25:55 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:28997 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <8225-10851>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 23:23:23 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154414-7107>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 10:03:17 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:4573 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <154392-7107>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 09:13:34 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0zSQCu-0006oN-00; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 19:27:04 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Mark van Doesburg cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: bottom handler In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 10 Oct 1998 15:12:40 +0200." <19981010200943Z155947-19981+22@vger.rutgers.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 19:27:04 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 663 Lines: 16 >I've written a network driver for networking over PCI. This driver works >OK on the i386 and also works OK on the arm when i have the debugging >messages on the console enabled. When i disable the debugging messages on >the arm the driver stops working. I've found out that the networking >bottom handler is not run even though it is marked to run. Bizarre. It sounds to me like some weird race condition but I'm at a loss to guess why that would stop the bh handler from running. Either that or printk() is enabling interrupts at an important moment. Can you post the code? p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Oct 11 22:20:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA341272 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 22:20:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA25348 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 22:20:18 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma025346; Sun, 11 Oct 98 22:20:12 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:28997 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <8892-10851>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 23:18:51 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154372-7107>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 10:03:05 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:4569 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <154375-7107>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 09:13:37 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0zSQI9-0006oc-00; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 19:32:29 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Ian Molton cc: ARMlinux mailing list Subject: Re: MP3 player for linux In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 09 Oct 1998 18:41:43 BST." <48926ea646mh120608@staffs.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 19:32:28 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 379 Lines: 11 >better still, is there a good description of how mp3 works? (as well as >source) ? Go to www.mpeg.org and browse around a bit. I think there are links to both source and documentation - though be warned the MPEG standard is quite a large document and there is a fair amount of maths involved. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Oct 11 22:57:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA341910 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 22:57:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA25400 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 22:57:48 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma025398; Sun, 11 Oct 98 22:57:33 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:39500 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <8537-13692>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 23:57:20 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154549-7107>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 10:48:16 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1075 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154570-7107>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 10:17:37 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (galatea-10.cableol.net [194.168.16.10]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id VAA03741; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 21:06:11 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA23119; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 21:04:11 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id VAA00898; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 21:07:01 +0100 Message-Id: <199810112007.VAA00898@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: bottom handler To: m.j.s.vandoesburg@student.utwente.nl (Mark van Doesburg) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 21:07:01 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <199810111804.UAA23600@poekie.test.> from "Mark van Doesburg" at Oct 11, 98 08:04:06 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1396 Lines: 30 Mark van Doesburg writes: > Does anyone know if the CSR_IRQ_* registers of the 21285 are modified > somewhere in the interrupt code, so the change i make gets undone ? Yes, see do_IRQ as well: if (!desc->nomask && desc->enabled) { spin_lock(&irq_controller_lock); desc->unmask(irq); spin_unlock(&irq_controller_lock); } > (is this an incorrect way to disable the irq ?) Yes. Use disable_irq() _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | --------------------- Email-relevent MINI FAQ ---------------------- Installer keys : ALT-F1 installer, ALT-F2 shell, ALT-F3 installer messages, ALT-F4 kernel messages Ether3/B problems: try latest 2.0.34 kernel and root disk. -------------------------------------------------------------------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Oct 12 00:04:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA342992 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 00:04:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA25531 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 00:04:19 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma025529; Mon, 12 Oct 98 00:04:01 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:10818 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <8836-13073>; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 01:03:37 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154549-7107>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 11:42:01 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:4599 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <156512-7107>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 11:13:31 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0zSSSi-0006xp-00; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 21:51:32 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Mark van Doesburg cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, linux@arm.uk.linux.org Subject: Re: bottom handler In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 11 Oct 1998 20:04:06 +0200." <19981011133012Z154651-7107+506@vger.rutgers.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 21:51:32 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 595 Lines: 16 > *CSR_IRQ_DISABLE=0x8; > >Does anyone know if the CSR_IRQ_* registers of the 21285 are modified >somewhere in the interrupt code, so the change i make gets undone ? > >(is this an incorrect way to disable the irq ?) Yes, you need to use disable_irq() rather than poking at the registers yourself. On the way into the interrupt routine the kernel masks out the interrupting device using the CSRs so that other interrupts can still get in; when your handler returns it re-enables them, so your change is lost. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Oct 12 02:30:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA344464 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 02:30:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id CAA25741 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 02:30:18 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma025739; Mon, 12 Oct 98 02:30:08 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:30279 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <5799-13073>; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 03:29:52 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154581-7107>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 13:50:37 -0400 Received: from studict.student.utwente.nl ([130.89.220.2]:1075 "EHLO studict.student.utwente.nl" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154684-7107>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 12:33:54 -0400 Received: from poekie.test. (ut240232.inbel.utwente.nl [130.89.240.232]) by studict.student.utwente.nl (8.8.6/MQT) with ESMTP id AAA13310 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 00:23:25 +0200 (METDST) Received: (from mark@localhost) by poekie.test. (8.8.7/8.6.9) id AAA29374 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 00:04:16 +0200 Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 00:04:16 +0200 From: Mark van Doesburg Illegal-Object: Syntax error in Message-Id: value found on vger.rutgers.edu: Message-Id: <199810112204.AAA29374@poekie.test.> ^-illegal subdomain in domain, propably extra '.' at the end of the address To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: patches X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Message-Id: <19981011183601Z154581-7107+905@vger.rutgers.edu> Status: RO Content-Length: 854 Lines: 24 I've mailed a serial driver for the 21285 patch to the patch state system. When it all works i want to post patches for the new architecture and the network driver. The problem with this is that the network patch is needed for both the host and the arm kernel. The last time i tried it was not possible to compile a i386 kernel with the sources patched for the arm. Has this changed ? If not, what should i do with my patches ? -- I can now boot my Linux kernel on a ebsa-285 via nfs over pci and run a static linked program. Dynamic linked programs fail with: init: memory violation at pc=0x200047d4, lr=0x20004038 (bad address=0x200151e4, code 1) I've not yet taken the time to look into it, but it is probably caused by the remapping of the kernel. -- greetings, Mark. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Oct 12 04:04:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA345430 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 04:04:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id EAA25881 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 04:04:48 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma025879; Mon, 12 Oct 98 04:04:35 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:53514 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <5363-13073>; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 05:04:16 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <153988-7107>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 14:00:10 -0400 Received: from phys-hen2.scotland.net ([194.247.65.128]:65058 "EHLO hen.scotland.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154835-7107>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 12:52:47 -0400 Received: from [148.176.238.95] (helo=nw-gare) by hen.scotland.net with smtp (Exim 1.90 #5) for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu id 0zSUBy-0006nr-00; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 23:42:23 +0100 Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 23:41:47 +0100 From: Nik Gare To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Problems with !Partman Message-ID: <2dcb919348%prscota5@prscota5.prestel.co.uk> Organization: Home X-Mailer: Messenger v1.34c for RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60j X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1276 Lines: 46 As I'm new to Linux and this mailing list, I'm going to ask what is probably a really stupid question but it has me stumped! Here goes... I'm trying to get !Partman to create a Linux partition on my 2nd Hard drive but to no avail. I've reformated the drive (3.2 GIG) so that I'm left with about 500mb on the RiscOS side. When I load up Partman and typ in the relavent drive details it recognises the drive and gives the correct figures for the whole drive (I think that this should happen anyway). It looks like this: Partition Start Sector End Sector Size Type 0 6191135 3023mb Free When I try click on new on the menu, nothing happens - I don't know why! Also, following the instalation instructions, it looks as if it should say filecore instead of free. The size of the disk is accurate and I have tried it with the disk connected to the motherboard IDE interface and also my ADPL interface (I think this is the same as th ICS one so 'should' work) but the same thing happens both times. I am probably doing something really stupid and the answer is staring me right in the face, but any help would be appreciated. Many thanks -- Nik Gare unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Oct 12 05:50:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA346690 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 05:50:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id FAA26006 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 05:50:18 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma026002; Mon, 12 Oct 98 05:49:48 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:35966 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <8266-17058>; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 06:47:25 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <155033-7107>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 15:59:16 -0400 Received: from post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.27]:40614 "EHLO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <155545-7107>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 15:27:41 -0400 Received: from [158.152.96.167] (helo=defaid.demon.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.03 #1) id 0zSUDO-0005JY-00 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 22:43:51 +0000 Received: from localhost (melanie@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by defaid.demon.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA01243 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 23:44:30 +0100 Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 23:44:28 +0100 (BST) From: Melanie Rhianna Lewis To: Arm Linux mailing list Subject: Software archives Message-ID: Organization: Trans-world BBS [+44 117 904 0901] X-Mailer: Pine 3.96 X-Host: Melanie's Linux Box - Mournblade X-MandM-To: ALL MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 768 Lines: 18 Hi everyone I've started putting up packages which I've compiled myself on to my website together with any necessary patches. The URL is http://www.defaid.demon.co.uk/armlinux/. It currently only contains a port of Workman (my fave cd playing proggy) but Pine will go up there tomorrow. As far as I know they should run on anything. Melanie -- ===================================================================== Melanie Rhianna Lewis melanie@defaid.demon.co.uk "An it hurt none, do what thou will" http://www.defaid.demon.co.uk TLBB#2 TGMCC#1 - MZ125, X7 (Under re-construction) ===================================================================== unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Oct 12 13:07:20 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA377083 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:07:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA26926 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:07:20 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma026924; Mon, 12 Oct 98 13:07:05 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:56880 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <8217-17058>; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 14:06:47 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154502-7107>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 23:32:32 -0400 Received: from post-12.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.41]:39688 "EHLO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154731-7107>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 22:00:49 -0400 Received: from [158.152.96.167] (helo=defaid.demon.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.03 #1) id 0zScoW-0001OZ-00 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 07:54:45 +0000 Received: from localhost (melanie@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by defaid.demon.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA01243 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 23:44:30 +0100 Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 23:44:28 +0100 (BST) From: Melanie Rhianna Lewis To: Arm Linux mailing list Subject: Software archives Message-ID: Organization: Trans-world BBS [+44 117 904 0901] X-Mailer: Pine 3.96 X-Host: Melanie's Linux Box - Mournblade X-MandM-To: ALL MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 768 Lines: 18 Hi everyone I've started putting up packages which I've compiled myself on to my website together with any necessary patches. The URL is http://www.defaid.demon.co.uk/armlinux/. It currently only contains a port of Workman (my fave cd playing proggy) but Pine will go up there tomorrow. As far as I know they should run on anything. Melanie -- ===================================================================== Melanie Rhianna Lewis melanie@defaid.demon.co.uk "An it hurt none, do what thou will" http://www.defaid.demon.co.uk TLBB#2 TGMCC#1 - MZ125, X7 (Under re-construction) ===================================================================== unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Oct 12 07:24:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA348798 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 07:24:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id HAA26142 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 07:24:18 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma026140; Mon, 12 Oct 98 07:24:16 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:5753 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <8317-13073>; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 08:23:56 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154888-7107>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 17:15:43 -0400 Received: from post-11.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.40]:62249 "EHLO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154955-7107>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 15:56:44 -0400 Received: from [158.152.9.209] (helo=cryton.demon.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.03 #1) id 0zSVBC-0006AD-00 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 23:45:38 +0000 Received: by cryton.demon.co.uk (4.1/25-eef) id AC04072; Mon, 12 Oct 98 00:46:23 BST Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 00:23:46 +0100 (BST) From: Hugo Fiennes Reply-To: Hugo Fiennes Subject: Re: MP3 player for linux To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: The Serial Port X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.50] X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 329 Lines: 11 Yes there is: see www.xaudio.com. It's for the netwinder, but I suppose it should work with any 16-bit audio device. Hugo -- Disclaimer: "The contents of this albatross were measured by weight, not volume. Contents may have settled during transit." unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Oct 12 05:35:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA337195 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 05:35:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id FAA25981 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 05:35:48 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma025979; Mon, 12 Oct 98 05:35:28 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:35153 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <8591-17058>; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 06:35:13 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <155006-7107>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 15:57:57 -0400 Received: from Stratus.CAM.ORG ([198.168.100.6]:51412 "EHLO Stratus.CAM.ORG" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <155267-7107>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 15:16:12 -0400 Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by Stratus.CAM.ORG (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id VAA26051; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 21:06:49 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: Stratus.CAM.ORG: nico owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 21:06:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre To: Philip Blundell cc: Ian Molton , ARMlinux mailing list Subject: Re: MP3 player for linux In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 580 Lines: 20 On Sun, 11 Oct 1998, Philip Blundell wrote: > >better still, is there a good description of how mp3 works? (as well as > >source) ? > > Go to www.mpeg.org and browse around a bit. I think there are links to both > source and documentation - though be warned the MPEG standard is quite a large > document and there is a fair amount of maths involved. > > p. Also you can go to www.xaudio.com. They have a MPEG player for the StrongARM based on integer math. Nicolas Pitre, B. ing. nico@cam.org unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Oct 12 09:17:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA348786 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 09:17:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA26311 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 09:17:18 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma026309; Mon, 12 Oct 98 09:17:17 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:6978 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <8447-13073>; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:14:11 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154892-7107>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 19:31:30 -0400 Received: from cr10m.staffs.ac.uk ([193.60.4.10]:3331 "EHLO cr10m.staffs.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154908-7107>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 17:17:02 -0400 Received: from delenn (sth193.staffs.ac.uk [193.62.26.193]) by cr10m.staffs.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id EAA12506 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 04:08:41 +0100 (BST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ian Molton To: ARMlinux mailing list Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 04:08:42 +0100 Message-ID: <4893aa3aebmh120608@staffs.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.08g for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: Bootloader Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 475 Lines: 14 I am thinking about having a crack at writing my own OS (for a project) based about linux. Is the source for the bootloader available? This would be a tremendous help.... -- -Ian aka Lennier Acorn Computers, the best in the world http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/ BaBe - Women's human rights organisation in Croatia http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/babe/ Preferences: Cats, Zap, Purple, Aspie unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Oct 12 10:49:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA344196 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:49:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA26558 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:49:18 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma026550; Mon, 12 Oct 98 10:49:01 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:30313 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <8377-17058>; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:47:30 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <155192-7107>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 22:29:20 -0400 Received: from cr10m.staffs.ac.uk ([193.60.4.10]:1163 "EHLO cr10m.staffs.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <155368-7107>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 20:47:09 -0400 Received: from delenn (sth193.staffs.ac.uk [193.62.26.193]) by cr10m.staffs.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id HAA03135 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 07:40:28 +0100 (BST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ian Molton To: ARMlinux mailing list Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 07:40:06 +0100 Message-ID: <4893bd95a6mh120608@staffs.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.08g for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: ELF Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 575 Lines: 20 Hi again... How do I run an elf binary ? I tried running xaudio (www.xaudio.com) and it said "command not found" (although it was there) I only did "./xaudio" as the command line, so there cant have been a lot wrong. I DO have ELF support compiled into the kernel.... -- -Ian aka Lennier Acorn Computers, the best in the world http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/ BaBe - Women's human rights organisation in Croatia http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/babe/ Preferences: Cats, Zap, Purple, Aspie unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Oct 12 15:16:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA377386 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 15:16:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA27235 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 15:16:20 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma027233; Mon, 12 Oct 98 15:15:53 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:44577 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <8517-13073>; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 16:12:18 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154236-7107>; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 01:42:57 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:26640 "EHLO globe.nexus.co.uk" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <155919-7107>; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 23:49:34 -0400 Received: from [192.0.0.21] (helo=fountain.nexus.co.uk ident=mail) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 0zSeKY-0005zt-00; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:31:54 +0100 Received: from fountain.nexus.co.uk ([127.0.0.1] ident=pb) by fountain.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #1) id 0zSeKX-00025S-00; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:31:53 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) To: Ian Molton cc: ARMlinux mailing list Subject: Re: Bootloader In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 12 Oct 1998 04:08:42 BST." <4893aa3aebmh120608@staffs.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:31:51 +0200 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 494 Lines: 13 >Is the source for the bootloader available? This would be a tremendous >help.... No, I think it's still unavailable. But the only difficult thing in the bootloader is the way it has to remap things so that the kernel can end up in the right bit of memory without upsetting RISC OS. All the kernel wants is to be called in supervisor mode at a particular address and with a few magic numbers in registers. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Oct 12 15:25:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA382694 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 15:25:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA27260 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 15:25:20 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xmaa27256; Mon, 12 Oct 98 15:25:05 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:44577 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <8880-17058>; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 16:24:23 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154950-7107>; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 01:51:43 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:28111 "EHLO globe.nexus.co.uk" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <156114-7107>; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 00:14:10 -0400 Received: from [192.0.0.21] (helo=fountain.nexus.co.uk ident=mail) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 0zSel9-00061Y-00; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:59:23 +0100 Received: from fountain.nexus.co.uk ([127.0.0.1] ident=pb) by fountain.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #1) id 0zSel8-00026W-00; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:59:22 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) To: Ian Molton Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: MP3 player for linux In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:52:25 BST." <4893cf311dmh120608@staffs.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:59:22 +0200 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 260 Lines: 10 >If I could get it to run, I'll let you know - it's ELF, and if I try to run >it, it says "command not found" or similar. bizzarre.... Have you got the ELF libraries installed? p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Oct 12 15:30:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA382934 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 15:30:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA27278 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 15:30:20 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma027274; Mon, 12 Oct 98 15:29:54 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:44577 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <6752-13073>; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 16:29:34 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <155237-7107>; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 01:51:51 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:28754 "EHLO globe.nexus.co.uk" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <156132-7107>; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 00:15:13 -0400 Received: from [192.0.0.21] (helo=fountain.nexus.co.uk ident=mail) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 0zSemx-00061n-00; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:01:15 +0100 Received: from fountain.nexus.co.uk ([127.0.0.1] ident=pb) by fountain.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #1) id 0zSemx-00028l-00; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:01:15 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) To: Ian Molton cc: ARMlinux mailing list Subject: Re: ELF In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 12 Oct 1998 07:40:06 BST." <4893bd95a6mh120608@staffs.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:01:15 +0200 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 248 Lines: 10 >I tried running xaudio (www.xaudio.com) and it said "command not found" >(although it was there) It sounds like you're missing the interpreter (/lib/ld-linux.so.2) p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Oct 12 15:11:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA377262 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 15:11:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA27223 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 15:11:50 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma027221; Mon, 12 Oct 98 15:11:33 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:44577 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <9115-17058>; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 16:08:15 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154367-7107>; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 01:43:56 -0400 Received: from post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.27]:46963 "EHLO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <156042-7107>; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 00:06:33 -0400 Received: from [193.237.23.100] (helo=gate.sw.milldev.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.03 #1) id 0zSemp-0005T3-00; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:01:07 +0000 Received: from florence.sw.milldev.co.uk (florence.sw.milldev.co.uk [192.168.0.6]) by gate.sw.milldev.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA09650; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:55:38 +0100 From: Russell King Received: (from rmk@localhost) by florence.sw.milldev.co.uk (8.8.5/8.7.3) id KAA07988; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:55:37 +0100 Message-Id: <199810120955.KAA07988@florence.sw.milldev.co.uk> Subject: Re: Problems with !Partman To: nik@nw-gare.prestel.co.uk (Nik Gare) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:55:37 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <2dcb919348%prscota5@prscota5.prestel.co.uk> from "Nik Gare" at Oct 11, 98 11:41:47 pm Content-Type: text X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 799 Lines: 22 Nik Gare said: > I'm trying to get !Partman to create a Linux partition on my 2nd Hard > drive but to no avail. Which version of !PartMan are you using? Also, which interface is this drive connected to? > Partition Start Sector End Sector Size Type > 0 6191135 3023mb Free Looks like it hasn't recognised the filecore partition. Could you try the latest ALPHA version of PartMan. Once you've finished running it, hit F12 and type: filer_opendir Pipe:$ return to the desktop. You should find a filer window open with a directory called C_Debug. Copy the file out of that and mail it to me (at rmk@arm.uk.linux.org, not here). -- Russell King (rmk@milldev.demon.co.uk) unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Oct 12 15:25:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA381968 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 15:25:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA27259 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 15:25:20 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma027256; Mon, 12 Oct 98 15:25:04 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:44577 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <9078-13073>; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 16:22:12 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154504-7107>; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 01:43:48 -0400 Received: from post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.27]:46948 "EHLO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <156037-7107>; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 00:06:32 -0400 Received: from [193.237.23.100] (helo=gate.sw.milldev.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.03 #1) id 0zSemk-0005T3-00; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:01:03 +0000 Received: from florence.sw.milldev.co.uk (florence.sw.milldev.co.uk [192.168.0.6]) by gate.sw.milldev.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA09681; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:57:41 +0100 From: Russell King Received: (from rmk@localhost) by florence.sw.milldev.co.uk (8.8.5/8.7.3) id KAA07996; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:57:40 +0100 Message-Id: <199810120957.KAA07996@florence.sw.milldev.co.uk> Subject: Re: ELF To: mh120608@cr10m.staffs.ac.uk (Ian Molton) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:57:39 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <4893bd95a6mh120608@staffs.ac.uk> from "Ian Molton" at Oct 12, 98 07:40:06 am Content-Type: text X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 625 Lines: 18 Ian Molton said: > I tried running xaudio (www.xaudio.com) and it said "command not found" > (although it was there) > > I only did "./xaudio" as the command line, so there cant have been a lot > wrong. It's probably because it can't find /lib/ld-linux.so.1 - the dynamic linker. You'll also need the shared libraries. Note that programs compiled on the Netwinder generally don't work on the RiscPC - Corel's libc is compiled to use the StrongARM's strh instruction which isn't supported on the RiscPC. -- Russell King (rmk@milldev.demon.co.uk) unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Oct 12 16:45:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA379900 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 16:45:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA27575 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 16:45:50 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma027573; Mon, 12 Oct 98 16:45:24 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:12816 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <9182-13073>; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 17:43:51 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <156030-7107>; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 01:58:59 -0400 Received: from mail.cs.up.ac.za ([137.215.18.70]:16553 "EHLO mail.cs.up.ac.za" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <156354-7107>; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 00:35:24 -0400 Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.cs.up.ac.za (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA18282; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 12:29:07 +0200 Received: from rw10.cs.up.ac.za(137.215.166.14), claiming to be "venus" via SMTP by mail.cs.up.ac.za, id smtpda18270; Mon Oct 12 12:29:04 1998 Message-ID: <001a01bdf5cb$521b77e0$0ea6d789@venus.cs.up.ac.za> From: "Samuel Kock" To: , "Arm Linux" Subject: Re: Java on ARM-Linux? Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 12:30:23 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 732 Lines: 20 >I've actually removed the config.guess from my website now, as it's probably >easier (and more accurate) to use ./configure --host=arm-linux-gnuaout or >whatever. I should put this in the hints and tips section, really. This may >help compiling your program - if you do get it working then please let us >know as I wouldn't mind Java on my system. Well, I got it to configure, but it will not compile, it mumbles something about an undefined variable (cannot remember the name right now!), and exits with an error 2. I am using Kaffe 1.0b2, the one that has support for the netwinder in it. Anybody else out there have any ideas? Thanks Samuel Kock unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Oct 12 18:54:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA331787 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 18:54:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA28101 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 18:54:20 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma028099; Mon, 12 Oct 98 18:53:55 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:4472 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <6237-17058>; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 19:53:02 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154073-7107>; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 04:40:43 -0400 Received: from gw-nl1.philips.com ([192.68.44.33]:3317 "EHLO gw-nl1.philips.com" ident: "IDENT-NONSENSE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <156656-7107>; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 03:42:41 -0400 Received: from smtprelay-nl1.philips.com (localhost.philips.com [127.0.0.1]) by gw-nl1.philips.com with ESMTP id PAA13251 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 15:39:03 +0200 (MEST) (envelope-from Jeroen.Medema@best.ms.philips.com) Received: from nlms1s2.best.ms.philips.com (nlms1s2.best.ms.philips.com [130.144.90.79]) by smtprelay-nl1.philips.com (8.8.5/8.6.10-1.2.2m-970826) with ESMTP id PAA09661 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 15:39:02 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mpclan1.best.ms.philips.com (mpclan1-sn.ms.philips.nl [130.144.98.100]) by nlms1s2.best.ms.philips.com (8.8.5/8.6.10-1.2.2a-970724) with ESMTP id PAA11783; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 15:37:03 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from best.ms.philips.com (mniw0303.ms.philips.nl [130.144.103.103]) by mpclan1.best.ms.philips.com (8.8.5/8.6.10-1.2c-970605) with ESMTP id PAA26753; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 15:37:04 +0200 (METDST) Message-ID: <36220679.BFBD7935@best.ms.philips.com> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 15:39:05 +0200 From: Jeroen Medema Reply-To: Jeroen.Medema@best.ms.philips.com Organization: Philips Medical Systems, Best X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ARMLinux Mailing List Subject: Comps file is not version 0 as expected Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 2638 Lines: 54 Hello everybody, I am quite new to Linux, so new that in fact installation does not work. But perhaps I am doing something terribly wrong. I have dowloaded Paul Vigay's description for installing ARMLinux, but executing this (rather detailed) recepy results in something strange, and therefore I would like to request your assistance. Let me first tell you that I have the Acorn CD, and the latest version (well, about a week old) of the ClanInstall archive from Phil Norman, the latest versions of the RiscOS tools from Russell, the latest disk images and rpc kernel. I am trying to do this all on a RPC, which is StrongARM powered. Since my RPC does not have a modem, I have transported everything via floppies from work to home, implying a split of the CallInstall stuff from Phil. The only difference now is the fact that I have stored the base and instimage items in a zip file, and not in a tar file. I would be very suprised if that would make a difference, but who knows? (I use unzip instead of tar now, and that should work, shouldn't it? This is all done in step 47 of Paul's recepy, the real hacker stuff!) The first difference in response from Linux is during step 56. It does say "Scanning available packages", but during this step the following message appears: Comps file is not version 0 as expected I have to acknowledge this, after which no of the messages Paul mentions ("package xxx at line xxx dne") is given. I suppose this is about the comps file as found in /hd/RedHat/base, in which I also find comps.old and comps.orig. I tried again with comps substituted with comps.orig, but that didn't help. (I now have tried about 6 times. A restart skips steps 1-31, as those appear to be about partitioning the hard disk, and preparing the floppies. I have assumed that no new partitioning is re- quired, and that the floppies are still OK.) I continue to step 62, where I have the option to install everything (this is not mentioned in Paul's document) and I take that option (maybe I should take the other option, to select specific packages by hand, but I think the main error has occurred already). This looks like a feature that is quite recent. The real trouble manifests itself during step 65. This is supposed to take a long time, but within a few seconds I get the message "rebooting" and progress stalls (I once waited more than an hour). I think this has something to do with the earlier message, but who knows? Well, perhaps some of you do, that's why I mail you. I hope some of you have the answer! Kind regards, Jeroen unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Oct 13 00:53:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA394484 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 00:53:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA28740 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 00:53:50 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma028738; Tue, 13 Oct 98 00:53:37 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:63858 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <8370-23034>; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 01:51:44 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154934-7107>; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 08:26:01 -0400 Received: from mail11.digital.com ([192.208.46.10]:2308 "EHLO mail11.digital.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <155257-7107>; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 05:10:08 -0400 Received: from tparch.tay1.dec.com (tparch.tay1.dec.com [16.119.0.10]) by mail11.digital.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/WV1.0h) with SMTP id LAA21989; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:07:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from scrugs.amt.tay1.dec.com by tparch.tay1.dec.com (5.65/MS-010395) id AA08918; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:08:47 -0400 Received: by scrugs.amt.tay1.dec.com (5.65v4.0/1.1.19.2/20May98-0124PM) id AA16292; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:07:18 -0400 Date: Mon, 12 Oct 98 11:07:18 EDT From: Larry Sendlosky To: "Samuel Kock" Cc: , "Arm Linux" Subject: Re: Java on ARM-Linux? In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 12 Oct 1998 12:30:23 +0200 Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1339 Lines: 37 Kaffe does build on the Netwinder using ELF. I didn't build it, but somebody who is working with us did get kaffe to run. He monitors this mailing list and can give the details if needed. (or I can ask him if he doesn't speak up). larry > >I've actually removed the config.guess from my website now, as it's > probably > >easier (and more accurate) to use ./configure --host=arm-linux-gnuaout or > >whatever. I should put this in the hints and tips section, really. This may > >help compiling your program - if you do get it working then please let us > >know as I wouldn't mind Java on my system. > > > Well, I got it to configure, but it will not compile, it mumbles something > about an undefined variable (cannot remember the name right now!), and exits > with an error 2. I am using Kaffe 1.0b2, the one that has support for the > netwinder in it. Anybody else out there have any ideas? > > Thanks > > Samuel Kock > > > > unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu > ______________________________________________________________________ Larry Sendlosky AMT larry@amt.tay1.dec.com (978) 506-4031 Compaq ---------------------------------------------------------------------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Oct 13 06:39:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA399062 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 06:39:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA29274 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 06:39:26 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma029272; Tue, 13 Oct 98 06:39:05 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:18455 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <8563-23034>; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 07:37:32 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154234-7107>; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 15:28:48 -0400 Received: from post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.27]:54682 "EHLO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154227-7107>; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 09:49:36 -0400 Received: from [158.152.35.208] (helo=forum) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.03 #1) id 0zSny4-0004OU-00 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 19:49:23 +0000 Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 20:35:32 +0100 From: Andrew Tuson To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Help required Message-ID: X-Organization: at Home X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40d for RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.61 X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 857 Lines: 19 I have managed, with a little help, to install ARMLinux on my SA RiscPC700 and can boot up from !Lunix, and log in as root or a user profile that I have set up. I have 2 queries, though: Linux always starts up in 1280 x 1024 @ 256 colours. This is a little annoying, since my old monitor cannot remember the settings for that resolution and I have to reset it manually every time. Is there any way to define the startup resolution? Evene though I selected a UK keyboard when I installed Linux the editing keys do not work correctly when logging in, using bash or X. The backspace key echoes the last keypress (ie backspace after root\ gives toor/) and the cursor keys do not work correctly (ie cursor up gives ^[[A). Any help would be gratefully received. -- Andrew Tuson unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Oct 13 13:40:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA395297 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:40:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA30128 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:40:26 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma030124; Tue, 13 Oct 98 13:39:58 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:47369 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <6605-23034>; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:39:23 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <156763-7107>; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 22:09:57 -0400 Received: from gw-nl1.philips.com ([192.68.44.33]:2638 "EHLO gw-nl1.philips.com" ident: "IDENT-NONSENSE") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <157158-7107>; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 20:32:27 -0400 Received: from smtprelay-nl1.philips.com (localhost.philips.com [127.0.0.1]) by gw-nl1.philips.com with ESMTP id IAA29857 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 08:35:01 +0200 (MEST) (envelope-from mkoek@wi.leidenuniv.nl) Received: from natlab.research.philips.com (prle.natlab.research.philips.com [130.139.161.112]) by smtprelay-nl1.philips.com (8.8.5/8.6.10-1.2.2m-970826) with SMTP id IAA03052 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 08:35:00 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by natlab.research.philips.com; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 08:34:58 +0200 Message-Id: <3622F491.EF4A72AA@wi.leidenuniv.nl> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 08:34:57 +0200 From: Mark Koek Reply-To: mkoek@wi.leidenuniv.nl X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; I; HP-UX B.10.20 9000/735) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Jeroen.Medema@best.ms.philips.com, ARM Linux mailing list Subject: Re: Comps file is not version 0 as expected References: <36220679.BFBD7935@best.ms.philips.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1690 Lines: 46 Jeroen Medema wrote: > I use unzip instead of tar now, and that should work, shouldn't it? Well, I've been surprised about such seemingly trivial things in the past... > The first difference in response from Linux is during step 56. It does > say "Scanning available packages", but during this step the following > message appears: > > Comps file is not version 0 as expected Could that be because the files from the zip are somehow corrupted...? > I have assumed that no new partitioning is required, and that the floppies > are still OK.) I've had a problem installing which turned out to be a disk error on one of the floppies. This was not reported by either !WriteDisc or the installer. !WriteDisc happily writes, and the installer just says 'rebooting' after a while and then hangs. The only way you can tell is by the bit of noise from the drive that usually preceeds a 'disk error' message under RISC OS. But I don't think that's your problem, you seem to be getting further now than I was then. > The real trouble manifests itself during step 65. This is supposed to > take a long time, but within a few seconds I get the message "rebooting" > and progress stalls (I once waited more than an hour). The installer seems to do that when something goes wrong. At least, I've encountered it under different circumstances. It says 'rebooting', then doesn't. In short: my (uninformed) guess is that there is a problem with the zip file containing the packages. I'd try packing that again -- IIRC there's a possibility of the long file names getting lost somewhere along the way. 'bye, Mark Koek unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Oct 13 17:01:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA412692 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 17:01:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA31277 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 17:01:26 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma031273; Tue, 13 Oct 98 17:01:09 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:32065 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <6655-23034>; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 17:59:52 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <156748-7107>; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 01:54:10 -0400 Received: from onyx.ftech.net ([195.200.12.17]:22657 "EHLO onyx.ftech.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <156809-7107>; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 22:19:07 -0400 Received: from mailgate (ruby.ftech.net [195.200.12.8]) by onyx.ftech.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA15327 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:22:11 +0100 Message-ID: <001c01bdf682$b93e6f60$0b01a8c0@terra.coltvr.com> From: "David A Brooks" To: Subject: Re: Help required Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:23:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1075 Lines: 33 This is a brief explanation as to screen resolutions in arm linux. >From other postings and my experience there is no easy way to configure arm linux once it's started. But, it will stay in whatever mode you start it into. (Note: Currently 16 & 24 bit colour are NOT supported and just create adot pattern around the screen.) You can: 1 - Change to required resolution in RiscOS, then start ArmLinux, which will use whatever resolution you supplied. 2 - Add the Line "WimpMode [Screen Definition]" into the !Run file inside !Linux 3 - Write a utility to allow you to change screen resolution, by programming the VIDC, then tell the Kernel that the screen setup has changed and hope it can handle it (Possible but not easy) My personal choice is 1 for ease, or 2 if you use different resolutions in RiscOS and ArmLinux. Hope this helps, if not ignore all of the above. Cheers, Dave PS. If anything above is WRONG please correct it as I wouldn't like to be giving incorrect information. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Oct 13 17:39:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA369643 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 17:39:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA31347 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 17:39:56 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma031345; Tue, 13 Oct 98 17:39:42 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:32065 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <5616-29365>; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 18:36:47 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <156151-7107>; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 01:55:42 -0400 Received: from post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.27]:60350 "EHLO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <157124-7107>; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 23:49:01 -0400 Received: from [158.152.120.130] (helo=RiscPC01.winnersh.foursqre.demon.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.03 #1) id 0zT13G-0002Ij-00; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:47:35 +0000 Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:25:26 +0100 From: Peter Bell To: andy@forum.demon.co.uk Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Help required Message-ID: <6a104b9448%peter@RiscPC01.winnersh.foursqre.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: FourSquare Computing Limited X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40d for RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.61b X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 718 Lines: 14 In message Andrew Tuson wrote: > Evene though I selected a UK keyboard when I installed Linux the editing > keys do not work correctly when logging in, using bash or X. The backspace > key echoes the last keypress (ie backspace after root\ gives toor/) Ah, someone who has never worked with a hardcopy terminal and doesn't recognise the delete action? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Peter Bell - peter@foursqre.demon.co.uk - FourSquare Computing Ltd 5 Drome Path, Winnersh, Wokingham, Berkshire RG41 5HB, UK. Tel. +44 (0) 118 989 0982 Fax. +44 (0) 118 979 4639 unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Oct 13 22:57:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA434782 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 22:57:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA31900 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 22:57:57 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma031898; Tue, 13 Oct 98 22:57:54 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:30026 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <8190-23034>; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 23:55:09 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154061-7107>; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 06:43:52 -0400 Received: from mailx.eidos.co.uk ([194.205.185.5]:1817 "EHLO mailx.eidos.co.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154659-7107>; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 03:03:39 -0400 Received: from 172.16.3.13 by mailx.eidos.co.uk with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1460.8) id 4MBT7C8S; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:03:19 +0100 Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:09:20 +0100 (BST) From: Brian Brunswick Subject: Re: Comps file is not version 0 as expected To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <3622F491.EF4A72AA@wi.leidenuniv.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: Eidos Technologies Ltd. +44 181 636 3398 X-PersonalHomePage: http://www.skarpsey.demon.co.uk/ X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.46] X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 765 Lines: 20 In on Tue 13 Oct, Mark Koek wrote: > Jeroen Medema wrote: > > > The first difference in response from Linux is during step 56. It does > > say "Scanning available packages", but during this step the following > > message appears: > > > > Comps file is not version 0 as expected > > Could that be because the files from the zip are somehow corrupted...? > We had this. It was because there were CRs as well as LFs in the file. Did you perhaps forget to set binary mode when you ftped the files? -- The past is a fading dream, the future mere speculation - live for the moment Brian Brunswick bdb@eidos.co.uk Disclaimer !Shortsig! unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Oct 13 23:07:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA435056 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 23:06:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA31923 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 23:06:57 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma031921; Tue, 13 Oct 98 23:06:38 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:30026 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <5336-29750> convert rfc822-to-quoted-printable; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 00:05:27 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154185-7107>; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 06:44:18 -0400 Received: from post.interalpha.co.uk ([195.26.224.14]:24719 "EHLO post.interalpha.net" ident: "0") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <153971-7107> convert rfc822-to-8bit; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 03:07:01 -0400 Received: from pvigay.interalpha.co.uk (th-mod09.interalpha.net [195.26.228.200]) by post.interalpha.net (8.8.7/8.6.11) with SMTP id OAA18565 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:13:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Paul Vigay To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:10:18 +0100 Message-ID: <4894652496pvigay@interalpha.co.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.09k for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: Re: Help required In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by relay.ch.genedata.com id XAA435056 Status: RO Content-Length: 2006 Lines: 39 In article , Andrew Tuson wrote: > Linux always starts up in 1280 x 1024 @ 256 colours. This is a little > annoying, since my old monitor cannot remember the settings for that > resolution and I have to reset it manually every time. Is there any > way to define the startup resolution? Look inside the !Linux directory and you should find a small BASIC file called "ModeNew". There is a line in this which sets the screen mode. Just set it to what you want. However, I've yet to work out a way of having a different X Window mode to the cli mode. > Evene though I selected a UK keyboard when I installed Linux the editing > keys do not work correctly when logging in, using bash or X. The backspace > key echoes the last keypress (ie backspace after root\ gives toor/) and > the cursor keys do not work correctly (ie cursor up gives ^[[A). Hmmm, I'd be interested in other people's comments here. I presume the keys are definable somewhere because I find that different apps use different key mappings. For instance joe's editor and VI seem to use different keys on my setup. Backspace and delete are probably the two least consistent keys but I also find that ŁŁ# (hash) is sometimes different. Inside script files it usually denotes a comment, but if I use the hash key (left of RETURN) it appears as a hash on screen but is not a comment, therefore gives errors on execution. If I use SHIFT-3 (pound sign) it comes out on screen as a hash and does actually get treated as a hash. Weird huh! Paul -- Paul Vigay Acorn Programming, __\\|//__ Internet Consultancy http://www.matrix.clara.net (` o-o ') & Web Design -----------------------------------ooO-(_)-Ooo--------------------------- It's hard to make a program foolproof because fools are so ingenious. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Oct 13 23:21:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA437056 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 23:21:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA31944 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 23:21:57 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma031942; Tue, 13 Oct 98 23:21:33 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:30026 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <8334-4796>; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 00:18:57 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <153979-7107>; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 06:45:40 -0400 Received: from post-11.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.40]:58415 "EHLO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154778-7107>; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 03:11:15 -0400 Received: from [193.237.23.100] (helo=gate.sw.milldev.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.03 #1) id 0zT4Ia-0000Ji-00; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:15:37 +0000 Received: from florence.sw.milldev.co.uk (florence.sw.milldev.co.uk [192.168.0.6]) by gate.sw.milldev.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA23048; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:11:55 +0100 From: Russell King Received: (from rmk@localhost) by florence.sw.milldev.co.uk (8.8.5/8.7.3) id OAA08122; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:11:54 +0100 Message-Id: <199810131311.OAA08122@florence.sw.milldev.co.uk> Subject: Re: Comps file is not version 0 as expected To: mkoek@wi.leidenuniv.nl Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:11:53 +0100 (BST) Cc: Jeroen.Medema@best.ms.philips.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <3622F491.EF4A72AA@wi.leidenuniv.nl> from "Mark Koek" at Oct 13, 98 08:34:57 am Content-Type: text X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 2645 Lines: 60 Mark Koek said: > Jeroen Medema wrote: > > The first difference in response from Linux is during step 56. It does > > say "Scanning available packages", but during this step the following > > message appears: > > > > Comps file is not version 0 as expected > > Could that be because the files from the zip are somehow corrupted...? This sounds like the base/comps file is either corrupted or missing. > > I have assumed that no new partitioning is required, and that the floppies > > are still OK.) > > I've had a problem installing which turned out to be a disk error on one > of the floppies. This was not reported by either !WriteDisc or the > installer. !WriteDisc happily writes, and the installer just says > 'rebooting' after a while and then hangs. The only way you can tell is > by the bit of noise from the drive that usually preceeds a 'disk error' > message under RISC OS. There are loads of instances where you can write to a disk but not read back from it. One such error is where the disk is damaged in the data area of a sector. The disk controller happily writes to it and says all is fine. Only when you read the disk again will it report an error. The only way for WriteDisc to detect this would be to read the disk after the writing process. Maybe this is a feature that people want? > > The real trouble manifests itself during step 65. This is supposed to > > take a long time, but within a few seconds I get the message "rebooting" > > and progress stalls (I once waited more than an hour). > > The installer seems to do that when something goes wrong. At least, I've > encountered it under different circumstances. It says 'rebooting', then > doesn't. That is intentional. The original RedHat system used to reboot the machine at the slightest error, which is very bad if your root filesystem is already mounted. I tend to think of this behaviour as being similar to a hand-grenade with the pin removed. My modified installer now gives you a message instead - "rebooting". This happens whenever the installer itself exits. You can hit Ctrl-Alt-Del to reboot, however the shell on tty2 (Alt-F2) should be functional. At least you can umount your root partition now. > In short: my (uninformed) guess is that there is a problem with the zip > file containing the packages. I'd try packing that again -- IIRC there's > a possibility of the long file names getting lost somewhere along the > way. You may want to check the 'comps' file - I think that this may well be your problem. -- Russell King (rmk@milldev.demon.co.uk) unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Oct 14 04:27:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA436733 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 04:27:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id EAA32459 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 04:26:59 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma032457; Wed, 14 Oct 98 04:26:31 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:2929 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <8894-29750>; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 05:26:11 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <156534-7107>; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 12:04:48 -0400 Received: from chaos.oregan.net ([195.173.86.1]:25178 "EHLO chaos.oregan.net" ident: "root") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <156558-7107>; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 07:58:59 -0400 Received: from tiddles.oregan (oregan-cambridge.demon.co.uk [212.228.27.73]) by chaos.oregan.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA15958; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 18:14:33 +0100 Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 18:13:12 +0100 From: Phil Norman To: peter@foursqre.demon.co.uk Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Help required Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <6a104b9448%peter@RiscPC01.winnersh.foursqre.demon.co.uk> X-Organization: Xania X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40d for RISC OS X-Editor: Zap, using ZapEmail =?ISO-8859-1?Q?0.21=DF?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60m X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 789 Lines: 18 In message <6a104b9448%peter@RiscPC01.winnersh.foursqre.demon.co.uk> Peter Bell wrote: > In message Andrew Tuson wrote: > > Evene though I selected a UK keyboard when I installed Linux the editing > > keys do not work correctly when logging in, using bash or X. The backspace > > key echoes the last keypress (ie backspace after root\ gives toor/) > > Ah, someone who has never worked with a hardcopy terminal and doesn't > recognise the delete action? Is it just me, or is this email being sent over and over again, every hour or so? If it is, could someone please do something about it - it's starting to get annoying. Thanks, Phil unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Oct 14 04:53:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA443453 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 04:52:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id EAA32497 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 04:52:59 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma032495; Wed, 14 Oct 98 04:52:36 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:2929 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <8592-4796>; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 05:50:48 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <155578-7107>; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 12:06:50 -0400 Received: from blazie.com ([207.97.93.2]:24697 "EHLO blazie.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <157002-7107>; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 08:42:39 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by blazie.com (8.8.7/8.8.4) with SMTP id OAA29891 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:51:56 -0400 Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:51:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Blazie To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ELF tools / cross compilers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1078 Lines: 24 On Fri, 9 Oct 1998, Philip Blundell wrote: > The GCC documentation describes the latter and the former is really just a > special case of it. In rough order, you need to: > > 1. Build and install binutils (configure with --prefix=/usr --target=arm-linux) > 2. Make sure the kernel headers are in place (/usr/arm-linux/include/asm etc) > 3. Build GCC (configure with same options as binutils and make LANGUAGES=c). > Don't try to build Obj, C++ or anything like that, it won't work at this > stage. Install the C compiler. Can someone tell me exactly which set of header files need to go into /usr/arm-linux/include? My first attempt to compile GCC terminated when libgcc1.a would not compile. I checked the include files to make sure the proper ones were in place. I finally got past libgcc1.a, but I get undefined reference errors when libgcc1-test tries to link. According to the GCC documentation, this means that something went wrong with libgcc1 when it was created. Thanks, Chris unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Oct 14 07:00:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA444850 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 07:00:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA32678 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 06:59:59 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma032676; Wed, 14 Oct 98 06:59:40 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:7991 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <8743-4796>; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 07:58:51 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <157025-7107>; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:39:32 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1585 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <160328-7107>; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:04:23 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (galatea-107.cableol.net [194.168.16.107] (may be forged)) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id WAA24724; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 22:09:52 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA02311; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 20:07:02 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id UAA00356; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 20:08:01 +0100 Message-Id: <199810131908.UAA00356@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: Help required To: dab@coltvr.com (David A Brooks) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 20:08:00 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <001c01bdf682$b93e6f60$0b01a8c0@terra.coltvr.com> from "David A Brooks" at Oct 13, 98 09:23:14 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 2029 Lines: 46 David A Brooks writes: > This is a brief explanation as to screen resolutions in arm linux. > > >From other postings and my experience there is no easy way to configure arm > linux once it's started. > But, it will stay in whatever mode you start it into. > (Note: Currently 16 & 24 bit colour are NOT supported and just create adot > pattern around the screen.) > > You can: > > 1 - Change to required resolution in RiscOS, then start ArmLinux, which will > use whatever resolution you supplied. > > 2 - Add the Line "WimpMode [Screen Definition]" into the !Run file inside > !Linux > > 3 - Write a utility to allow you to change screen resolution, by programming > the VIDC, then tell the Kernel that the screen setup has changed and hope it > can handle it (Possible but not easy) > > My personal choice is 1 for ease, or 2 if you use different resolutions in > RiscOS and ArmLinux. > Hope this helps, if not ignore all of the above. Ok, I'll correct ;) ARM Linux can (read should) cope with any 1-bpp, 4-bpp or 8-bpp RISC OS mode. Since Linux does not touch the VIDC's registers (other than the palette), Linux runs in whatever screen resolution RISC OS was last using. Currently, !Linux runs a basic program - SetModeNew or SetModeOld, dependent on whether you have RISC OS 3.5 or above. These basic programs should be edited to set what resolution you require. This sounds like a good candidate for the FAQ, so expect it to appear shortly. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Oct 14 06:46:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA427718 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 06:46:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA32662 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 06:45:59 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma032660; Wed, 14 Oct 98 06:45:37 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:7991 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <6495-4796>; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 07:45:09 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <156895-7107>; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:15:58 -0400 Received: from post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.27]:61953 "EHLO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <157552-7107>; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 10:49:26 -0400 Received: from [158.152.120.130] (helo=RiscPC01.winnersh.foursqre.demon.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 0zTBT6-0004Pi-00; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 20:54:57 +0000 Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 20:54:19 +0100 From: Peter Bell To: phil@oregan.net Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Help required Message-ID: <20228a9448%peter@RiscPC01.winnersh.foursqre.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: FourSquare Computing Limited X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40d for RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.61b X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 847 Lines: 19 In message you wrote: > Is it just me, or is this email being sent over and over again, every hour > or so? If it is, could someone please do something about it - it's starting > to get annoying. Sorry about that. I think it was Demon playing silly b******s. The post machine at Demon accepted the SMTP connection, and received my post, but didn't acknowledged it (until the fourth connection). My system was unaware that it had actually been accepted the first three times. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Peter Bell - peter@foursqre.demon.co.uk - FourSquare Computing Ltd 5 Drome Path, Winnersh, Wokingham, Berkshire RG41 5HB, UK. Tel. +44 (0) 118 989 0982 Fax. +44 (0) 118 979 4639 unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Oct 14 08:19:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA443279 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 08:19:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA00094 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 08:19:29 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma000092; Wed, 14 Oct 98 08:19:23 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:57184 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <8667-29750>; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 09:19:00 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154493-7107>; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:39:41 -0400 Received: from hil-img-9.compuserve.com ([149.174.177.139]:2035 "EHLO hil-img-9.compuserve.com" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <155569-7107> convert rfc822-to-8bit; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 10:39:10 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by hil-img-9.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/2.14) id QAA19291 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 16:44:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 16:43:56 -0400 From: David Hazel Subject: Problems with ARMLinux installation To: Linux mailing list Message-ID: <199810131644_MC2-5C96-47AC@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="ARMLINUX.TXT" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ARMLINUX.TXT" X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 4321 Lines: 73 I am sending this via e-mail, rather than filling in the on-line web form, as it contains information which I would not want to have to re-type on the form. I have been trying to install ARMLinux on one of my RiscPCs (a system which started off life as an SRP20, but which has been upgraded somewhat). I have followed the instructions which were published in the December 1997 Clan newsletter, plus some additional notes by Phil Norman which I got from the ftp site. However, I have hit an impasse which none of the notes I have found seem to shed any light on. No doubt I have omitted some crucial step somewhere, but I can't see anything in any of the material I've downloaded which describes the particular problem I had. First some notes about my hardware. My machine has a 233MHz StrongARM processor, 40Mb of DRAM (1x32M + 1x8M), 2Mb of VRAM, a Cumana SCSI II interface, a SyJet 1.5Gb drive, an I-cubed Ethernet card, an IDE CD-ROM drive, plus the 1.2Mb IDE hard drive it came with. It is also networked to my other Acorn machine, and has a scanner connected to the SCSI interface. I have partitioned the IDE drive to give 610Mb for ADFS, 512Mb for the Linux Native partition, and 99Mb for the Linux Swap partition. I also got HForm to do a Format, rather than just an Initialise, to try to ensure that all partitions started off clean. During the ARMLinux installation, I did not load the drivers for either the SCSI interface or the Ethernet interface. I wanted to keep the installation process as simple as possible, to avoid any mysterious problems with unusual hardware. (However, I haven't yet tried removing either of the cards before or after the installation.) Firstly, there is one minor point when the installation is proceeding. After the installation software scans the available packages (following the prompt for the location of the RedHat installation tree), I get the following "comps errors" reported: package cproto at line 110 dne package cproto at line 140 dne package gpm-devel at line 150 dne package cproto at line 177 dne package pidentd at line 293 dne I don't know how to fix these problems, but they don't seem to stop the installation proceeding, so I have assumed they are not major issues. (I assume 'dne' means 'does not exist'). After installation has completed, and (as per Phil's notes) I've sync-ed the drives and used CTRL-ALT-DEL to re-boot RISC OS, I have tried to boot into Linux using the following command line (I have the path variable Linux$path set to point to the directory where the !Linux application and other related files are): *Linux:!Linux -bootkernel Linux:Kernel.rpc At the extra parameters prompt, I type the following: root=/dev/hda3 I then get the usual preamble about hardware setup, followed by: EXT2-fs warning: mounting unchecked fs, running e2fsck is recommended VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) INIT: version 2.64 booting Bad mode in prefetch abort handler detected: mode SVC_32 Internal error: Oops: 0 CPU: 0 pc : [] lr : [] sp : c26eeec4 ip : c26eef1c fp : c26eef18 r10: 00000000 r9 : 0001d000 r8 : 00019f80 r7 : 0000007a r6 : c27b7e18 r5 : 00000000 r4 : c27f59f0 r3 : 00000001 r2 : c3005000 r1 : 00000006 r0 : c300af6c Flags: nZCv IRQs on FIQs on Mode SVC_32 Process insmod (pid: 9, stackpage=c26ee000) Stack: Backtrace: Function entered at [] from [] Function entered at [] from [] r9 = c26eefb8 r8 = 00018000 r7 = 0001d000 r6 = c0106170 r5 = 00006094 r4 = 03fffd8c Function entered at [] from [] r8 = c26eeff4 r7 = 00900080 r6 = 00000080 r5 = c26ef018 r4 = 00019f80 Code: pc not in code space Then the system hangs immediately after the last line. I have to either power down or else press the reset button to get the machine back. Have you encountered this problem, and is it a "standard" problem (I can't find an FAQ which describes this)? I would welcome any light you could throw on this. (I am a professional software engineer, but I am not very familiar with Unix in any of its guises. I was hoping to use ARMLinux to train myself in that area.) Regards, David Hazel unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Oct 15 12:00:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA511854 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:00:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA05628 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:00:11 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma005618; Thu, 15 Oct 98 11:59:56 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:60745 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <8540-18066>; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:57:00 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154409-31433>; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 16:11:05 -0400 Received: from post.interalpha.co.uk ([195.26.224.14]:32509 "EHLO post.interalpha.net" ident: "0") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154640-31433>; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 09:09:29 -0400 Received: from freeservesignup.interalpha.co.uk (th-mod55.interalpha.net [195.26.228.246]) by post.interalpha.net (8.8.7/8.6.11) with SMTP id UAA18438; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 20:23:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Paul Vigay To: ARMLinux Mailing List Cc: Jeroen.Medema@best.ms.philips.com Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 23:23:54 +0100 Message-ID: <489497d3a1pvigay@interalpha.co.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.09k for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: Re: Comps file is not version 0 as expected In-Reply-To: <36220679.BFBD7935@best.ms.philips.com> Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 3102 Lines: 64 In article <36220679.BFBD7935@best.ms.philips.com>, Jeroen Medema wrote: > Let me first tell you that I have the Acorn CD, and the latest version > (well, about a week old) of the ClanInstall archive from Phil Norman, > the latest versions of the RiscOS tools from Russell, the latest disk > images and rpc kernel. I am trying to do this all on a RPC, which is > StrongARM powered. [snip of problems] I'm not sure if anyone else can confirm a problem, but the other day I did a re-install of Linux on a machine at work and got some weird errors during the installation. This seemed to be caused by the fact I was using the latest (2.0.35) kernel to start off with. I started again using the old (2.0.31) kernel and all worked fine. I then manually updated the kernel after installing Linux with the old one. I'm not sure if this is possibly causing a conflict somewhere. > The first difference in response from Linux is during step 56. It does > say "Scanning available packages", but during this step the following > message appears: > Comps file is not version 0 as expected That does indeed look like some of the error messages I got when trying to install Linux direct to 2.0.35. You could try installing 2.0.31 from scratch and then updating manually to 2.0.35 (follow the instructions on my page for fixing the >24MB memory problem) > I continue to step 62, where I have the option to install everything > (this is not mentioned in Paul's document) and I take that option (maybe > I should take the other option, to select specific packages by hand, but > I think the main error has occurred already). This looks like a feature > that is quite recent. Actually, I did mention that in a round about way (because I missed it myself the first time and manually selected everything. I agree though, it's quicker just to click 'install everything' (and I've slightly amended my page to reflect this) > The real trouble manifests itself during step 65. This is supposed to > take a long time, but within a few seconds I get the message "rebooting" > and progress stalls (I once waited more than an hour). I think this has > something to do with the earlier message, but who knows? Well, perhaps > some of you do, that's why I mail you. I hope some of you have the > answer! Yes, it should take at least 15 minutes if you are installing everything and have a strongArm. It will take a lot longer if you have a slower machine. I'm sorry I can't offer more help, but if you do re-install do let me know if it fixes it and I'll make a note for others in my instructions. regards, Paul -- Paul Vigay Acorn Programming, __\\|//__ Internet Consultancy Web: http://www.matrix.clara.net (` o-o ') & Web Design BBS: +44 (0)1705 871531 (ansi,8n1) -----ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------------- So, I picked an afternoon when I wasn't doing anything, and decided to rob a bank.. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Oct 14 22:17:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA453605 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 22:17:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA03104 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 22:17:30 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma003102; Wed, 14 Oct 98 22:17:03 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:16176 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <9158-4796> convert rfc822-to-quoted-printable; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 23:13:52 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154688-31433>; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 06:21:41 -0400 Received: from post-12.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.41]:32956 "EHLO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <155560-31433> convert rfc822-to-8bit; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 00:59:03 -0400 Received: from [158.152.96.167] (helo=defaid.demon.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 0zTOn9-0004SE-00; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:08:32 +0000 Received: from localhost (melanie@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by defaid.demon.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA00244; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 00:56:15 +0100 Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 00:56:14 +0100 (BST) From: Melanie Rhianna Lewis To: Paul Vigay cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Help required In-Reply-To: <4894652496pvigay@interalpha.co.uk> Message-ID: Organization: Trans-world BBS [+44 117 904 0901] X-Mailer: Pine 3.96 X-Host: Melanie's Linux Box - Mournblade X-MandM-To: ALL MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by relay.ch.genedata.com id WAA453605 Status: RO Content-Length: 2593 Lines: 52 On Tue, 13 Oct 1998, Paul Vigay wrote: > In article , > Andrew Tuson wrote: > > Evene though I selected a UK keyboard when I installed Linux the editing > > keys do not work correctly when logging in, using bash or X. The backspace > > key echoes the last keypress (ie backspace after root\ gives toor/) and > > the cursor keys do not work correctly (ie cursor up gives ^[[A). > > Hmmm, I'd be interested in other people's comments here. I presume the keys > are definable somewhere because I find that different apps use different key > mappings. For instance joe's editor and VI seem to use different keys on my > setup. Backspace and delete are probably the two least consistent keys but I > also find that ŁŁ# (hash) is sometimes different. Inside script files it > usually denotes a comment, but if I use the hash key (left of RETURN) it > appears as a hash on screen but is not a comment, therefore gives errors on > execution. If I use SHIFT-3 (pound sign) it comes out on screen as a hash and > does actually get treated as a hash. Weird huh! The backslash \ and forward slash / is an old style delete from when you couldn't actually move the cursor backwards. I remember it from the VAX and Unix mainframes I used at college in the early 80s. When you hit delete, the first time it puts a back slash and the last character typed. It then displays previous characters in reverse order until you start typing again at which point it displays a forward slash. For example Melanei\ie/ie This only happens at the login prompt. Joe's editor is a 7 bit app and so shows high bit characters as inverted 7 bit versions eg. The Sterling symbol is displayed as a reverse #. I'm not sure about VI but I would imagine that's 7 bit too. Pine/Pico support 8 bit. The UK keyboard map isn't perfect but I have tweaked it and it works fine in X on my system. Sterling, hash, tilde the works... In the console only the Sterling symbol isn't displayed except for in Joe as reverse #. If any one wants a copy I can upload it to my arm linux web pages. http://www.defaid.demon.co.uk/armlinux Melanie -- ===================================================================== Melanie Rhianna Lewis melanie@defaid.demon.co.uk "An it hurt none, do what thou will" http://www.defaid.demon.co.uk TLBB#2 TGMCC#1 - MZ125, X7 (Under re-construction) ===================================================================== unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Oct 14 20:12:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA446667 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 20:12:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA02740 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 20:12:30 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma002738; Wed, 14 Oct 98 20:12:13 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:25906 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <8475-29750>; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 21:08:47 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <156854-31433>; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 02:00:35 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:14575 "EHLO globe.nexus.co.uk" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <160050-7107>; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 22:51:26 -0400 Received: from [192.0.0.21] (helo=fountain.nexus.co.uk ident=mail) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 0zTMfS-0000HG-00; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 09:52:26 +0100 Received: from fountain.nexus.co.uk ([127.0.0.1] ident=pb) by fountain.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #1) id 0zTMfR-0001YP-00; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 09:52:25 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) To: Chris Blazie cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ELF tools / cross compilers In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:51:56 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 09:52:25 +0200 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 616 Lines: 15 > Can someone tell me exactly which set of header files need to go >into /usr/arm-linux/include? My first attempt to compile GCC terminated Your target C library ones (ie the ones you get from compiling glibc at a later step). It does now seem to be the case that libgcc2.c wants a couple of header files from the target library to build. They aren't actually necessary and you can stop this from happening by adding -Dinhibit_libc to the CFLAGS. Alternatively just create empty files with these names as a temporary measure. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Oct 14 17:20:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA477536 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 17:20:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA02116 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 17:20:30 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma002112; Wed, 14 Oct 98 17:20:11 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:24880 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <5829-29750>; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 18:17:28 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <156677-31433>; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 23:55:13 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1246 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <160179-7107>; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 23:21:51 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (galatea-50.cableol.net [194.168.16.50]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id KAA05578; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 10:30:49 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA04191; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 09:33:20 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id JAA00457; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 09:33:06 +0100 Message-Id: <199810140833.JAA00457@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: Problems with ARMLinux installation To: David_Hazel@compuserve.com (David Hazel) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 09:33:05 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <199810131644_MC2-5C96-47AC@compuserve.com> from "David Hazel" at Oct 13, 98 04:43:56 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1748 Lines: 41 David Hazel writes: > package cproto at line 110 dne > package cproto at line 140 dne > package gpm-devel at line 150 dne > package cproto at line 177 dne > package pidentd at line 293 dne > > I don't know how to fix these problems, but they don't seem to stop > the installation proceeding, so I have assumed they are not major > issues. (I assume 'dne' means 'does not exist'). You're correct there. > EXT2-fs warning: mounting unchecked fs, running e2fsck is recommended > VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) > INIT: version 2.64 booting > Bad mode in prefetch abort handler detected: mode SVC_32 > Internal error: Oops: 0 > CPU: 0 > pc : [] Classic problem that's covered in the FAQ - question 3.3 ('as well as a register dump with the PC at around 0xc40xxxxx'). > Then the system hangs immediately after the last line. I have to either > power down or else press the reset button to get the machine back. > > Have you encountered this problem, and is it a "standard" problem > (I can't find an FAQ which describes this)? I would welcome any > light you could throw on this. The FAQ is located on my web site: http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/armlinux/faq.html _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Oct 14 20:54:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA482109 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 20:54:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA02890 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 20:54:01 +0200 Received: from ns.imp.ch(157.161.1.2) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma002883; Wed, 14 Oct 98 20:53:35 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi (listserv.funet.fi [128.214.248.27]) by mail.imp.ch (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA18240 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 20:50:33 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:15389 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <8689-4796>; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 21:45:55 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154389-31433>; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 02:29:04 -0400 Received: from zeus.wi.leidenuniv.nl ([132.229.128.1]:1657 "EHLO zeus.wi.leidenuniv.nl" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <155980-7107>; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 23:24:34 -0400 Received: from artemis.wi.leidenuniv.nl (artemis [132.229.16.41]) by zeus.wi.leidenuniv.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8/WI) with SMTP id KAA02754 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 10:33:23 +0100 (MET) From: "M.B.J.Koek" Received: from (mkoek@localhost) by artemis.wi.leidenuniv.nl (8.6.9/FHM-1.03-S) id GAA14752 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 06:32:57 -0400 (MET) Message-Id: <199810141032.GAA14752@artemis.wi.leidenuniv.nl> Subject: minimal installation To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:32:57 +0100 (MET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1216 Lines: 30 Hello all, I want to install Linux on a RPC without CD or Ethernet (so only floppies and 33K6 Internet access). I know that's a challenge (transferring 78Mb of rpms is not an option). However, this will force me to become acquainted with custom installation ;-). Also, I am just enough of a hacker, optimist and nerd to expect it to be fun. So, I am trying to get a very minimal system running, just to get started. I got pretty far with only the installation disks. The only problem seems to be that I haven't got 'mv' or 'cp' to copy the contents of the RAM disk to the hard drive. If I get a 'cp' binary, and copy the files from the RAM disk (as it lives 'underneath' the installer) to the directory which is the mount point for the Linux partition, can I then boot directly into Linux? If and when that works, I want to try to get gcc working. For that, I obviously need to start with a binary too; is that 'downloadable' over 33K6? Could anyone give me a pointer to a 'cp' binary, or mail me one? (not all at once, please :-) Or can you give me a good reason why this is never going to work? Thanks a lot in advance, Mark Koek unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Oct 14 23:31:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA487256 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 23:31:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA03218 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 23:31:30 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma003216; Wed, 14 Oct 98 23:31:15 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:31776 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <5310-18066>; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 00:31:06 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <156620-31433>; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 06:56:23 -0400 Received: from cr10m.staffs.ac.uk ([193.60.4.10]:3310 "EHLO cr10m.staffs.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <156572-31433>; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 01:38:43 -0400 Received: from delenn (sth193.staffs.ac.uk [193.62.26.193]) by cr10m.staffs.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA10553 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:47:29 +0100 (BST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ian Molton To: ARMlinux mailing list Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:46:58 +0100 Message-ID: <4894e1599fmh120608@staffs.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.08g for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: Cumana SCSI II Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 566 Lines: 17 Does anyone know why I cannot get a cumana SCSI II card to work with armlinux? When I install, and select the Cumana SCSI II module, and try to autoprobe it (or specify options) it just hangs. (the light on the scsi disc just flashes on and off....) any ideas? -- -Ian aka Lennier Acorn Computers, the best in the world http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/ BaBe - Women's human rights organisation in Croatia http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/babe/ Preferences: Cats, Zap, Purple, Aspie unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Oct 14 23:25:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA401671 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 23:25:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA03204 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 23:25:30 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma003202; Wed, 14 Oct 98 23:25:22 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:49011 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <5332-15524>; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 00:24:58 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <156580-31433>; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 06:55:48 -0400 Received: from cr10m.staffs.ac.uk ([193.60.4.10]:3311 "EHLO cr10m.staffs.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <156575-31433>; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 01:38:04 -0400 Received: from delenn (sth193.staffs.ac.uk [193.62.26.193]) by cr10m.staffs.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA10548 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:47:31 +0100 (BST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ian Molton To: ARMlinux mailing list Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:47:50 +0100 Message-ID: <4894e16e0emh120608@staffs.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.08g for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: Morons guide to installing elf. Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 380 Lines: 11 Does anyone have an "idiots guide" to putting ELF onto an ARMlinux machine ? -- -Ian aka Lennier Acorn Computers, the best in the world http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/ BaBe - Women's human rights organisation in Croatia http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/babe/ Preferences: Cats, Zap, Purple, Aspie unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Oct 14 23:35:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA484620 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 23:35:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA03239 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 23:35:30 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma003237; Wed, 14 Oct 98 23:35:28 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:31776 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <5306-18066>; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 00:31:56 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <156572-31433>; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 06:56:38 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1207 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <156635-31433>; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 01:40:53 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (galatea-79.cableol.net [194.168.16.79] (may be forged)) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id MAA08787 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:50:34 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA04748 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:51:13 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id MAA00369 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:50:42 +0100 Message-Id: <199810141150.MAA00369@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: ONE test CD available for RiscPC ARM Linux! To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:50:41 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1482 Lines: 29 This morning I've created the first ARM Linux CD for RiscPC machines. Ok, it's probably very silly to be doing this now, since Acorn are fading away, but never mind. I have here ONE CD that I would like someone to try out on their machine. This CD does not have the absolutely latest kernel on it, but it should be sufficient for most standard configurations. It shouldn't suffer from the missing kernel packages, and should automatically set up the loadmap stuff. It does have the latest copies of !PartMan (inc alpha version) and !Linux. If someone would like to try it out, then drop me a mail with your address and I'll send it to you. Note that I will expect some feedback, as well as something for actually sending it (unless you pursuade me otherwise). Please note, however, that I make no guarantees whatsoever that this CD will work with any hardware or software configuration that you may have. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Oct 15 00:11:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA484793 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 00:11:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA03344 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 00:11:32 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xmaa03339; Thu, 15 Oct 98 00:11:05 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:60688 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <8541-15524>; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 01:10:25 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <155507-31433>; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 08:35:20 -0400 Received: from bits.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.64.1]:1304 "EHLO BITS.bris.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <157437-31433>; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 02:34:23 -0400 Received: from localhost (dooby@localhost) by BITS.bris.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA15348 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 13:43:58 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 13:43:58 +0100 (BST) From: dooby To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Arm Linux running in 4MB? In-Reply-To: <199810131908.UAA00356@raistlin.armlinux.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 435 Lines: 15 Hi all, I know there's been a lot of messages on this before, but I wish to know whether anyone ever got a conclusive HowTo of doing this. My primary reason for wanting it is to get Arm Linux onto my A4 - which assumes that it's hardware is the same as the A5000 (I beleive it is). Can anyone help with any info on the feasibility of this? Cheers, dooby unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Oct 15 00:11:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA439576 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 00:11:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA03343 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 00:11:32 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma003339; Thu, 15 Oct 98 00:11:04 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:60688 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <8254-18066>; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 01:08:15 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <157119-31433>; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 08:47:05 -0400 Received: from bits.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.64.1]:1311 "EHLO BITS.bris.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <157227-31433>; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 02:42:20 -0400 Received: from localhost (dooby@localhost) by BITS.bris.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA15417 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 13:52:06 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 13:52:06 +0100 (BST) From: dooby To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: X display in 256 colours In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1321 Lines: 30 Hello, I am running Arm Linux on my 8MB A5000, with my own compiled kernel of 2.0.33. I have tried setting the mode (in SetModeOld) to 28 or 15 but if I try to 'startx' from Linux then the screen makes a slight sound (as though powering down or changing mode) and the display goes black. I don't even get a hint of seeing X start up, however it _does_ start up - I have to kill it by typing reboot into an Xterm window I have set up. The most worrying thing is, I *can* get X running in 16 colours (modes 12 or 27 or 31). The problem with this is that I get loads of errors about "can't allocate colour such_and_such", and nothing is very usable in just 16 colours - it's hard enough getting the display visible (black text on black backround is hard). Why doesn't 256 colours work?! I think it must be due to my older hardware - is anyone running earlier kernels successfully with 256 colour X on an A5000? I do have a colourcard in the machine, but since I am using standard modes, these just get passed through it - besides, I'm sure I've tried removing the card before to check if it was that. ISTR getting X in 256 colours in a release of 2.0.30/1 in mode 15 - anyone else know of this problem (or fix)?# Thanks for any help, dooby unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Oct 15 05:32:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA415191 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 05:32:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id FAA03795 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 05:32:05 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma003793; Thu, 15 Oct 98 05:31:42 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:24186 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <8918-15524>; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 06:29:21 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <161431-31433>; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:03:24 -0400 Received: from hme0.serv1.is1.u-net.net ([195.102.240.129]:49898 "EHLO serv1.is1.u-net.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <157541-31433>; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 06:49:25 -0400 Received: from [194.119.175.102] (helo=oac.u-net.com) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu id 0zTVDV-0000ZV-00; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 18:00:10 +0000 Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 18:02:56 +0100 From: Rob Davis To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: ELF (Again) Message-ID: <547fe9448%rob@oac.u-net.com> Reply-To: rob.davis@oaci.org X-Organization: OAC Ministries X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40d for RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60m X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 758 Lines: 15 Where are things with ELF on a RiscPC these days, and what will it mean for your average (non-technical) user? There was some talk about redoing the binaries etc for ELF, and making the libraries work? Does this mean that it's run things like Netscape straight from the setup files, or just that any recompiled program will be smaller? Is there going to be an idiots guide to installing it and/or upgading to it? -- Rob Davis OAC Ministries, British Registered Charity, 295432 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Homepage: http://www.oac.u-net.com Mobile: 0973 359577 (SMS welcome) rob.davis@oaci.org (Rob.. At the house) unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Oct 15 23:25:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA648335 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 23:25:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA08324 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 23:25:39 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma008322; Thu, 15 Oct 98 23:25:21 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:27753 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <6836-24623>; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 00:24:59 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <160709-14148>; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 05:13:56 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:31044 "EHLO globe.nexus.co.uk" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <155006-31433>; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 22:30:03 -0400 Received: from [192.0.0.21] (helo=fountain.nexus.co.uk ident=mail) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 0zTiyG-0001sn-00; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 09:41:20 +0100 Received: from fountain.nexus.co.uk ([127.0.0.1] ident=pb) by fountain.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #1) id 0zTiyF-0002qZ-00; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 09:41:19 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) To: dooby cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Arm Linux running in 4MB? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 14 Oct 1998 13:43:58 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 09:41:19 +0200 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 702 Lines: 16 >Can anyone help with any info on the feasibility of this? What I did in the end was to fudge the kernel so that it called swapon() before starting init. If you arranged for this to be driven by a command-line option you might even stand a chance of getting it past Linus. :-) Incidentally, does anybody know how much setup stuff there is that needs doing to make an Archimedes/A5000 run that the kernel relies on RISC OS having done beforehand? Obviously the initial video setup but nothing else leaps to mind. I'm planning to have another go at putting a kernel in ROM on the A5000 to free up more memory. :-) p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Oct 15 23:56:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA587900 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 23:56:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA08376 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 23:56:39 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma008372; Thu, 15 Oct 98 23:56:35 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:6000 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <7042-16893>; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 00:56:23 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <157683-14148>; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 05:15:39 -0400 Received: from post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.27]:33632 "EHLO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <160016-31433>; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 22:51:34 -0400 Received: from [158.152.120.130] (helo=RiscPC01.winnersh.foursqre.demon.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 0zTjHh-0000Ej-00; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 09:01:26 +0000 Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 09:10:49 +0100 From: Peter Bell To: mh120608@cr10m.staffs.ac.uk Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Cumana SCSI II Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4894e1599fmh120608@staffs.ac.uk> X-Organization: FourSquare Computing Limited X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40d for RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.61b X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1003 Lines: 25 In message <4894e1599fmh120608@staffs.ac.uk> you wrote: > Does anyone know why I cannot get a cumana SCSI II card to work with > armlinux? > > When I install, and select the Cumana SCSI II module, and try to autoprobe > it (or specify options) it just hangs. (the light on the scsi disc just > flashes on and off....) > > any ideas? Basically, the SCSI driver in ArmLinux just doesn't work with the Cumana card (does it work with any other card?). When I encountered the problem, and posted to this list, Russell responded and asked for some further details. Since providing the information nothing else has happened - I guess that the SCSI driver isn't top priority. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Peter Bell - peter@foursqre.demon.co.uk - FourSquare Computing Ltd 5 Drome Path, Winnersh, Wokingham, Berkshire RG41 5HB, UK. Tel. +44 (0) 118 989 0982 Fax. +44 (0) 118 979 4639 unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Oct 15 23:10:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA654332 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 23:10:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA08299 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 23:10:39 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma008295; Thu, 15 Oct 98 23:10:10 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:20242 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <6836-24623>; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 00:06:26 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <157600-14148>; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 04:55:27 -0400 Received: from chaos.oregan.net ([195.173.86.1]:3332 "EHLO chaos.oregan.net" ident: "root") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <157601-31433>; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 22:08:28 -0400 Received: from tiddles.oregan (oregan-cambridge.demon.co.uk [212.228.27.73]) by chaos.oregan.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA13939; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 09:21:21 +0100 Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 09:18:15 +0100 From: Phil Norman To: mkoek@wi.leidenuniv.nl Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: minimal installation Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199810141032.GAA14752@artemis.wi.leidenuniv.nl> X-Organization: Xania X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40d for RISC OS X-Editor: Zap, using ZapEmail =?ISO-8859-1?Q?0.21=DF?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60m X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1142 Lines: 24 In message <199810141032.GAA14752@artemis.wi.leidenuniv.nl> "M.B.J.Koek" wrote: > So, I am trying to get a very minimal system running, just to get started. > I got pretty far with only the installation disks. The only problem seems > to be that I haven't got 'mv' or 'cp' to copy the contents of the RAM disk > to the hard drive. > > If I get a 'cp' binary, and copy the files from the RAM disk (as it lives > 'underneath' the installer) to the directory which is the mount point for > the Linux partition, can I then boot directly into Linux? Useful things such as cp and mv are not included on either of the boot discs. However, you can get hold of quite a few useful binaries (the base system, in fact) from my installation guide, available from my web site (a 3meg zip file, most of which is 'base' and 'instimage', which I believe are the most basic things possible for a working armlinux installation. Someone please correct me if you do need more than this. Phil -- http://newton.ex.ac.uk/general/ug/norman/index.html unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Oct 16 01:18:16 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA652632 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 01:18:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id BAA08530 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 01:18:09 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma008528; Fri, 16 Oct 98 01:17:58 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:36708 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <6416-16893>; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 02:15:47 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154232-14148>; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 07:11:01 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1342 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <157284-31433>; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 23:41:32 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (galatea-92.cableol.net [194.168.16.92] (may be forged)) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id KAA32300; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 10:54:43 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA06589; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 10:10:03 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id KAA00411; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 10:07:38 +0100 Message-Id: <199810150907.KAA00411@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: Help required To: melanie@defaid.demon.co.uk (Melanie Rhianna Lewis) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 10:07:37 +0100 (BST) Cc: pvigay@interalpha.co.uk, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Melanie Rhianna Lewis" at Oct 14, 98 00:56:14 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 939 Lines: 22 Melanie Rhianna Lewis writes: > Melanei\ie/ie > > This only happens at the login prompt. If you're getting this at other times, type 'stty sane' into the shell prompt before starting your program. > reverse #. If any one wants a copy I can upload it to my arm linux web > pages. It would be useful to feed it back to me so that the distribution gets updated... _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Oct 16 21:42:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA779545 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 21:42:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA11609 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 21:42:20 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma011598; Fri, 16 Oct 98 21:42:15 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:16656 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10558-16893>; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 22:41:08 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <160015-14148>; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 04:42:00 -0400 Received: from post.interalpha.co.uk ([195.26.224.14]:8636 "EHLO post.interalpha.net" ident: "0") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <160442-14148>; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 00:01:19 -0400 Received: from pvigay.interalpha.co.uk (th-mod40.interalpha.net [195.26.228.231]) by post.interalpha.net (8.8.7/8.6.11) with SMTP id LAA25872 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 11:22:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Paul Vigay To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:08:30 +0100 Message-ID: <489561aa33pvigay@interalpha.co.uk> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.09k for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: Re: Arm Linux running in 4MB? In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1548 Lines: 29 In article , dooby wrote: > Hi all, > I know there's been a lot of messages on this before, but I wish to know > whether anyone ever got a conclusive HowTo of doing this. My primary > reason for wanting it is to get Arm Linux onto my A4 - which assumes that > it's hardware is the same as the A5000 (I beleive it is). > Can anyone help with any info on the feasibility of this? I'm not sure what the absolute minimum memory requirement for ArmLinux is. Normal Linux should run in 4MB (although 8 is recommended) and as you say the A4 is pretty much the same as an A5000 technically. However you will probably need a bigger hard drive than the default A4 one as Linux would need rather more than 60MB (or whatever the standard size is/was on A4's) as a partition. Chris Pringle has a guide on installing ArmLinux on A5000 machines at http://www.latrigg.demon.co.uk/Chris/Linux/linux.html which you might find handy. My own 'dummies guide' is at http://www.matrix.clara.net/Acorn/linux.html -- Paul Vigay Acorn Programming, __\\|//__ Internet Consultancy http://www.matrix.clara.net (` o-o ') & Web Design -----------------------------------ooO-(_)-Ooo--------------------------- 51 Things to do in a lift: 9. Offer name tags to everyone getting on the lift. Wear yours upside-down. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Oct 16 06:12:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA606274 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 06:12:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA08944 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 06:12:43 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma008942; Fri, 16 Oct 98 06:12:33 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:40048 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <6897-24623>; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 07:10:31 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154258-14148>; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 13:25:14 -0400 Received: from post-11.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.40]:42698 "EHLO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <155518-14148>; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 07:58:52 -0400 Received: from [158.152.35.208] (helo=forum) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 0zTruD-0000ON-00 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 18:13:47 +0000 Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 19:07:11 +0100 From: Andrew Tuson To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Help required Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199810131908.UAA00356@raistlin.armlinux.org> X-Organization: at Home X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40d for RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.61 X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 819 Lines: 21 In message <199810131908.UAA00356@raistlin.armlinux.org> Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote: > Ok, I'll correct ;) > > ARM Linux can (read should) cope with any 1-bpp, 4-bpp or 8-bpp RISC OS mode. > Since Linux does not touch the VIDC's registers (other than the palette), > Linux runs in whatever screen resolution RISC OS was last using. Are you sure? I normally run in 1024x768 with 32k colours, and Linux insisted in starting up in 1280x1024 with 256 colours. > Currently, !Linux runs a basic program - SetModeNew or SetModeOld, dependent > on whether you have RISC OS 3.5 or above. These basic programs should be > edited to set what resolution you require. Found that thanks. -- Andrew Tuson unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Oct 16 14:48:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA749344 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:48:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA10343 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:48:17 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma010340; Fri, 16 Oct 98 14:48:06 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:64578 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10558-24623>; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 15:12:17 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <155301-14148>; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 19:07:45 -0400 Received: from snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net ([207.217.120.62]:50824 "EHLO snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <161321-14148>; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 15:14:36 -0400 Received: from sglass.earthlink.net (ip24.austin6.tx.pub-ip.psi.net [38.27.10.24]) by snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA20188 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 18:30:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 20:33:56 +0000 (GMT) From: Simon Glass / Linux Subject: The Joys of Linux To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: Organisation name, location. Telephone/Fax? X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.46] X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 1148 Lines: 30 Hi, I finally bit the bullet and installed Linux last night. What a bullet it was. Without being able to search through archived mail it might have taken me a week...I think an X-Files extractor for Linux would be handy. I'm amazed by all the software there, and the reliability of everything. BTW I also have a Netwinder (nice but no s/w yet), plus Linux on a PC (I boot this up when Windows crashes to restore my faith in mankind). I do have one minor problem though. I have a second disc drive which is a 2.7GB Maxtor 72700AP (5248 cylinders, 16 heads, 63 sectors). At the moment I have to unplug it otherwise Linux crashes on boot-up (cursor stops flashing) after finding all the drives. I remember RISC OS having this problem years ago with a 420MB Conner drive. So I have to disconnect the drive & type 'configure idediscs 1' before running Linux. A small price to pay. I see several people have reported similar problems - any solutions yet? Also, is anyone working on a read/write adfs for Linux or ext2 for RISC OS? Regards, -- Simon Glass Austin, Texas unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Oct 16 21:13:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA741893 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 21:13:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA11554 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 21:13:50 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma011552; Fri, 16 Oct 98 21:13:32 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:35856 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11155-24623>; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 22:11:35 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <157364-14148>; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 03:34:38 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:22637 "EHLO globe.nexus.co.uk" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <160244-14148>; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 23:15:53 -0400 Received: from [192.0.0.21] (helo=fountain.nexus.co.uk ident=mail) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 0zU6GG-0003ba-00; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 10:33:28 +0100 Received: from fountain.nexus.co.uk ([127.0.0.1] ident=pb) by fountain.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #1) id 0zU6GE-0001gg-00; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 10:33:26 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) To: Stefan Hanske cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Arm Linux running in 4MB? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 16 Oct 1998 11:27:00 +0200." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 10:33:24 +0200 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 206 Lines: 9 >I think the memory setup could be useful. Mmm. I guess MEMC needs to be told its page size and that kind of thing. Ugh. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Oct 16 21:03:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA776724 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 21:03:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA11530 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 21:03:51 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma011528; Fri, 16 Oct 98 21:03:33 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:35856 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10559-24623>; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 22:00:41 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <157356-14148>; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 03:33:13 -0400 Received: from relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.119.201]:60246 "EHLO relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <160162-14148>; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 23:11:19 -0400 Received: from mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.234]) by relay.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA04749; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 11:27:10 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from aixterm9.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (shanske@aixterm9.urz.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.119.49]) by mail.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA85128; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 11:27:11 +0200 Received: (from shanske@localhost) by aixterm9.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) id LAA60206; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 11:27:01 +0200 (METDST) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 11:27:00 +0200 (METDST) From: Stefan Hanske X-Sender: shanske@aixterm9.urz.uni-heidelberg.de To: Philip Blundell cc: dooby , linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Arm Linux running in 4MB? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1609 Lines: 32 On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, Philip Blundell wrote: > >Can anyone help with any info on the feasibility of this? > > What I did in the end was to fudge the kernel so that it called swapon() > before starting init. If you arranged for this to be driven by a command-line > option you might even stand a chance of getting it past Linus. :-) I've done it already, but I needed another Linux box to modify the root disk (a mix of root/supplemental disk with shared libs on it) and as soon as possible mkswap & swapon. Btw, there was a problem with one of the mkswap's. It was complaining it couldn't determine the page size. > Incidentally, does anybody know how much setup stuff there is that needs doing > to make an Archimedes/A5000 run that the kernel relies on RISC OS having done > beforehand? Obviously the initial video setup but nothing else leaps to mind. > I'm planning to have another go at putting a kernel in ROM on the A5000 to > free up more memory. :-) You need to call the kernel with R0 and R1 containing cartain values, and I think the memory setup could be useful. ---------------------------------------------------------- |mailto: Stefan Hanske (shanske@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de | |WWW : http://www.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de/~shanske | |phone: I'm not silly | |--------------------------------------------------------| | And don't forget to remember what you remembered not | | to forget to remember... | ---------------------------------------------------------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Oct 17 09:06:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA760987 for ; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 09:06:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA12675 for ; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 09:06:56 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma012673; Sat, 17 Oct 98 09:06:25 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:62306 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <5988-10628>; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 10:06:01 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <155459-14148>; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 06:21:12 -0400 Received: from hillhead.cent.gla.ac.uk ([130.209.16.101]:51443 "EHLO hillhead.cent.gla.ac.uk" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <155566-14148>; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 01:41:14 -0400 Received: from lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk ([130.209.16.18]) by hillhead.cent.gla.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.01 #1) id 0zU8Lz-00070L-00; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 12:47:31 +0100 Received: from localhost (9606585c@localhost) by lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk (8.8.4/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA20394; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 12:47:29 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 12:47:29 +0100 (BST) From: James Craig <9606585c@udcf.gla.ac.uk> X-Sender: 9606585c@lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk To: Andrew Tuson cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Help required In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1218 Lines: 30 On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, Andrew Tuson wrote: > In message <199810131908.UAA00356@raistlin.armlinux.org> > Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote: > > > Ok, I'll correct ;) > > > > ARM Linux can (read should) cope with any 1-bpp, 4-bpp or 8-bpp RISC OS mode. > > Since Linux does not touch the VIDC's registers (other than the palette), > > Linux runs in whatever screen resolution RISC OS was last using. > > Are you sure? I normally run in 1024x768 with 32k colours, and Linux insisted > in starting up in 1280x1024 with 256 colours. Because Linux doesn't do 16bpp, presumably - it's maybe the closest 8bpp mode? > > Currently, !Linux runs a basic program - SetModeNew or SetModeOld, dependent > > on whether you have RISC OS 3.5 or above. These basic programs should be > > edited to set what resolution you require. > > Found that thanks. Don't remember what ATM, Russ, but there's some problem with one or other of those - or there used to be, anyway. I'll wire up my A410/1 again tonight see if I can't remember what. -- James Craig <9606585c@udcf.gla.ac.uk> unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Oct 17 09:19:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA781473 for ; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 09:19:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA12700 for ; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 09:19:25 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma012695; Sat, 17 Oct 98 09:19:01 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:62306 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <6222-25866>; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 10:12:44 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154650-14148>; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 06:27:40 -0400 Received: from [195.152.9.22] ([195.152.9.22]:4039 "EHLO gateway.copymaster.co.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <156540-14148>; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 02:05:21 -0400 Received: from ipl22 ([131.111.214.205]) by gateway.copymaster.co.uk (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 0-45194U100L2S100) with SMTP id AAA238 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 13:09:47 +0000 Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 13:16:07 +0100 From: tlawton@docnet.org.uk (Tom Lawton) To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: EtherB with 80C04.AE Message-ID: Reply-To: tlawton@docnet.org.uk X-Organization: Home X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40d for RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.61b X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 375 Lines: 14 Hi, I have a StrongARM Risc PC with an EtherB card using the 80C04.AE. Is there any news on when a driver might be available to use it and do a ftp install? Thanks Tom -- ... "Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first" - Mark Twain unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Oct 17 09:19:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA759585 for ; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 09:19:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA12702 for ; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 09:19:26 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xmab12695; Sat, 17 Oct 98 09:19:04 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:62306 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <6653-10628>; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 10:17:57 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154408-14148>; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 08:32:31 -0400 Received: from chaos.oregan.net ([195.173.86.1]:32103 "EHLO chaos.oregan.net" ident: "root") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <157317-14148>; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 03:25:45 -0400 Received: from tiddles.oregan (oregan-cambridge.demon.co.uk [212.228.27.73]) by chaos.oregan.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA29843; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:44:30 +0100 Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:41:35 +0100 From: Phil Norman To: linux@bluewaternz.com Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: The Joys of Linux Message-ID: <3d84f39548%phil@tiddles.oregan.net> In-Reply-To: X-Organization: Xania X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40d for RISC OS X-Editor: Zap, using ZapEmail =?ISO-8859-1?Q?0.21=DF?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60m X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 795 Lines: 18 In message Simon Glass / Linux wrote: > Also, is anyone working on a read/write adfs for Linux or ext2 for RISC OS? Currently there's read-only adfs is linux, and read-only ext2 in RiscOS, which covers both directions, but isn't ideal. I would possibly have started adding write-ability to IscaFS (the read-only RiscOS ext2-reader, URL in the sig), but I don't have spare time, and the need is not great enough to warrant it. I'm far more interested in designing my own filing system, which is good fun (whether I'll ever get around to implementing it is another matter ;-). Phil -- http://newton.ex.ac.uk/general/ug/norman/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Oct 16 22:43:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA780006 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 22:43:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA11706 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 22:43:50 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma011704; Fri, 16 Oct 98 22:43:20 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:36176 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10419-24623>; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 23:43:07 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <157340-14148>; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 08:35:37 -0400 Received: from hillhead.cent.gla.ac.uk ([130.209.16.101]:56725 "EHLO hillhead.cent.gla.ac.uk" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <157350-14148>; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 03:31:02 -0400 Received: from lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk ([130.209.16.18]) by hillhead.cent.gla.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.01 #1) id 0zUAFx-00012p-00; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:49:25 +0100 Received: from localhost (9606585c@localhost) by lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk (8.8.4/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA29858; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:49:21 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:49:20 +0100 (BST) From: James Craig <9606585c@udcf.gla.ac.uk> X-Sender: 9606585c@lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk To: Simon Glass / Linux cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: The Joys of Linux In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1477 Lines: 30 On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, Simon Glass / Linux wrote: > Hi, > > I finally bit the bullet and installed Linux last night. What a bullet it > was. Without being able to search through archived mail it might have taken > me a week...I think an X-Files extractor for Linux would be handy. I have one. Trying to remember who wrote it...... Nicholas Clark, I think. It's called XRec - X-files recoverer. I was asked not to distribute it, though, I'm afraid. > I'm amazed by all the software there, and the reliability of everything. BTW > I also have a Netwinder (nice but no s/w yet), plus Linux on a PC (I boot > this up when Windows crashes to restore my faith in mankind). Windows ever *boots* on your machine? WOW! I'm impressed. You must have truly incredible patience! > I do have one minor problem though. I have a second disc drive which is a > 2.7GB Maxtor 72700AP (5248 cylinders, 16 heads, 63 sectors). At the moment I > have to unplug it otherwise Linux crashes on boot-up (cursor stops flashing) > after finding all the drives. I remember RISC OS having this problem years > ago with a 420MB Conner drive. > Also, is anyone working on a read/write adfs for Linux or ext2 for RISC OS? Both are works-in-progress - IscaFS for ext2fs and Russ has ADFS support to some extent (read-only still, I think) in the kernel. -- James Craig <9606585c@udcf.gla.ac.uk> unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Oct 17 09:19:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA718808 for ; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 09:19:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA12703 for ; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 09:19:26 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xmac12695; Sat, 17 Oct 98 09:19:05 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:62306 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <6779-25866>; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 10:18:24 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154292-14148>; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:07:42 -0400 Received: from mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com ([157.161.173.16]:28744 "EHLO mail.core.genedata.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <157399-14148>; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 03:37:54 -0400 Received: from relay.ch.genedata.com (pinatubo.ch.genedata.com [157.161.173.32]) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA10572; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 15:56:47 +0200 Received: from mencheca.ch.genedata.com (root@mencheca.ch.genedata.com [157.161.173.204]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA659413; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 15:56:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: by genedata.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.101) for linux@bluewaternz.com; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 18:03:38 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <19981016180338.X1964@genedata.com> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 18:03:38 +0200 From: Matthew Wilcox To: Simon Glass / Linux , linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: The Joys of Linux References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.2 In-Reply-To: ; from Simon Glass / Linux on Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 08:33:56PM +0000 X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 833 Lines: 16 On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 08:33:56PM +0000, Simon Glass / Linux wrote: > Also, is anyone working on a read/write adfs for Linux or ext2 for RISC OS? A read/write ADFS doesn't really seem interesting any more, now that Acorn have dropped their Workstations operation. There's IscaFS for RISC OS which lets you read ext2 partitions - download it from ftp://ftp.barnet.ac.uk/pub/Acorn/armlinux/iscafs/iscafs.zip If anyone wants to add writing support, I don't think this will be extremely hard to do. -- Matthew Wilcox "I decry the current tendency to seek patents on algorithms. There are better ways to earn a living than to prevent other people from making use of one's contributions to computer science." -- Donald E. Knuth, TAoCP vol 3 unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Oct 17 22:52:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA785579 for ; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 22:52:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA13899 for ; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 22:52:26 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma013897; Sat, 17 Oct 98 22:52:03 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:57128 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10659-25866>; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 23:51:45 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <153844-27811>; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 05:33:03 -0400 Received: from mail.thefree.net ([195.34.192.14]:2633 "EHLO mail.thefree.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <157661-27811>; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 21:59:00 -0400 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Sat, 17 Oct 1998 08:21:18 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from loopback [195.34.197.46] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Sat, 17 Oct 1998 08:21:17 0000 Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 19:21:53 +0100 From: Chris Sawer To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Cumana SCSI II Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Reply-To: chris.sawer@usa.net X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40d for RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60m X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 683 Lines: 16 In message Peter Bell wrote: > Basically, the SCSI driver in ArmLinux just doesn't work with the > Cumana card (does it work with any other card?). It works fine with my Cumana SCSI 1 card, and I can access files on my CD-ROM using it. I guess this isn't a lot of help to you, though. Chris -- Chris Sawer - Worthing, Sussex, England ICQ: 15010147 E-Mail: chris.sawer@usa.net PGP public key available on request http://members.xoom.com/chrissawer/ <-- ArmLinux Binaries, Hints and Tips unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Oct 17 23:29:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA783851 for ; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 23:29:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA13948 for ; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 23:29:26 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma013946; Sat, 17 Oct 98 23:29:06 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:57128 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10754-29664>; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 00:27:14 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <153946-27811>; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 06:34:26 -0400 Received: from hme0.serv1.is1.u-net.net ([195.102.240.129]:39954 "EHLO serv1.is1.u-net.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <156200-27811>; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 21:08:32 -0400 Received: from [194.119.175.102] (helo=oac.u-net.com) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu id 0zURkH-0001iu-00; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 08:29:53 +0000 Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 08:30:51 +0100 From: Rob Davis To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Mailling List (Second time) Message-ID: <2369559648%rob@oac.u-net.com> Reply-To: rob.davis@oaci.org X-Organization: OAC Ministries X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40d for RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60m X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 662 Lines: 12 I'm just about to bite the bullet and move my email to Linux, the only problem is that I currently have a mailling list that runs on RiscOS (Maillist). It has about 160 subscribers and receives around 20 messages per day. What is a good program to handle this in Linux? Is Majordomo available? How do I install it? -- Rob Davis OAC Ministries, British Registered Charity, 295432 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Homepage: http://www.oac.u-net.com Mobile: 0973 359577 (SMS welcome) rob.davis@oaci.org (Rob.. At the house) unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From linux@arm.uk.linux.org Sat Oct 17 10:19:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA773145 for ; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 10:19:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA12792 for ; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 10:19:25 +0200 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net(163.164.160.3) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma012790; Sat, 17 Oct 98 10:19:01 +0200 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (galatea-41.cableol.net [194.168.16.41]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id JAA13673; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 09:18:50 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA10398; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 08:54:02 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id IAA00407; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 08:53:09 +0100 Message-Id: <199810170753.IAA00407@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: The Joys of Linux To: Matthew.Wilcox@genedata.com (Matthew Wilcox) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 08:53:08 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux@bluewaternz.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <19981016180338.X1964@genedata.com> from "Matthew Wilcox" at Oct 16, 98 06:03:38 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO Content-Length: 2023 Lines: 41 Matthew Wilcox writes: > On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 08:33:56PM +0000, Simon Glass / Linux wrote: > > Also, is anyone working on a read/write adfs for Linux or ext2 for RISC OS? > > A read/write ADFS doesn't really seem interesting any more, now that > Acorn have dropped their Workstations operation. I don't really see r/w ADFS as a viable proposition really, due to the way that an ADFS filesystem is layed out and the way Unix filesystems work in general. They're totally different beasts. To highlight the problem: - ADFS stores all information about a file in the directory containing that file (object id, length, attributes etc). This is referenced by name. - Linux uses what are called inodes, with a number. This number uniquely identifies a file/directory on the disk. To get all the information about a file under Linux, the filesystem is asked for the following. 1. What is the inode number of this object? (eg, RISC OS path: ADFS:$.Library.cc Linux: /Library/cc -> some number) 2. Please give me all the information about the object defined by this inode number. The first is easy to do, but the second is not. Currently, the Linux ADFS filesystem uses as an inode number the disk object ID of the directory and the entry number in the directory. This is fine when the filesystem is not writable, because you can guarantee that all the directory entries will not move. However, when you introduce writing, mapping 2 breaks down since you can no longer make this guarantee. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Oct 18 13:11:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA620393 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 13:11:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA15215 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 13:11:00 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma015213; Sun, 18 Oct 98 13:10:51 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:3641 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2146-29664>; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 14:09:16 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <155599-27811>; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 23:11:37 -0400 Received: from post-11.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.40]:60541 "EHLO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <155573-27811>; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 22:14:03 -0400 Received: from [158.152.96.167] (helo=defaid.demon.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.05demon1 #1) id 0zUoOS-0003Lr-00 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 08:40:52 +0000 Received: from localhost (melanie@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by defaid.demon.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA01569 for ; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 12:12:17 +0100 Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 12:12:16 +0100 (BST) From: Melanie Rhianna Lewis To: Arm Linux mailing list Subject: Re: ELF (Again) (fwd) Message-ID: Organization: Trans-world BBS [+44 117 904 0901] X-Mailer: Pine 3.96 X-Host: Melanie's Linux Box - Mournblade X-MandM-To: ALL MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 3402 Lines: 77 This didn't appear so I've reposted it! -- ===================================================================== Melanie Rhianna Lewis melanie@defaid.demon.co.uk "An it hurt none, do what thou will" http://www.defaid.demon.co.uk TLBB#2 TGMCC#1 - MZ125, X7 (Under re-construction) ===================================================================== ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 10:37:40 +0100 (BST) From: Melanie Rhianna Lewis To: Arm Linux mailing list Subject: Re: ELF (Again) On Wed, 14 Oct 1998, Rob Davis wrote: > Where are things with ELF on a RiscPC these days, and what will it > mean for your average (non-technical) user? As you may already know, ELF is the form of executables that most releases of Linux use. It is newer than the old aout format. ArmLinux is a little behind in this respect. In ELF libraries are dynamically linked when the program is run. Ie the library functions an application needs to run remain in the libraries and are called from the application. Where as for aout the libraries are statically linked. Ie the necessary functions from the library are included in to the application when the application is compiled and linked. This makes it a lot bigger (although slightly faster to run). > There was some talk about redoing the binaries etc for ELF, and making > the libraries work? For ELF to work you need a kernel that supports ELF and ELF versions of the libraries. In ArmLinux this means glibc... > Does this mean that it's run things like Netscape straight from the > setup files, or just that any recompiled program will be smaller? It doesn't mean you can run applications written for a different processor. So the standard Linux release of Netscape wont work. It uses Intel instructions and not ARM ones. It does mean that all the newer libraries and applications, which would just be too big in aout format, can be compiled for ArmLinux. The Netwinder which uses a StrongARM processor already has an ELF system and has the navigator part of Netscape Communicator ported already. Unfortunately because of Hardware restrictions in the RPC. Even StrongArm users can't use the Netwinder apps. (Although it should work the other way around). > Is there going to be an idiots guide to installing it and/or upgading > to it? It is my intention to write one once I have done it myself and found all the pitfalls. My first job is to find the time to finish building the cross compiler for my Intel box and then build the ArmLinux stuff. One point is that ELF will be initially (until someone who's willing puts lots of hours in) only 32bit addressing. That means RiscPC upwards... The debian people are doing a release for the Netwinder which would mean they could do a release for ArmLinux just by recompiling for the ARM610 (armv3). I'm not sure of the state of this. Melanie -- ===================================================================== Melanie Rhianna Lewis melanie@defaid.demon.co.uk "An it hurt none, do what thou will" http://www.defaid.demon.co.uk TLBB#2 TGMCC#1 - MZ125, X7 (Under re-construction) ===================================================================== unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From phil@oregan.net Sat Oct 17 14:50:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA777180 for ; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:50:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA13155 for ; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:50:55 +0200 Received: from chaos.oregan.net(195.173.86.1) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma013149; Sat, 17 Oct 98 14:49:50 +0200 Received: from tiddles.oregan (oregan-cambridge.demon.co.uk [212.228.27.73]) by chaos.oregan.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA01652; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 13:49:41 +0100 Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 13:24:25 +0100 From: Phil Norman To: Matthew.Wilcox@genedata.com Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: The Joys of Linux Message-ID: <8d49709648%phil@tiddles.oregan.net> In-Reply-To: <19981016180338.X1964@genedata.com> X-Organization: Xania X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40d for RISC OS X-Editor: Zap, using ZapEmail 0.21ß MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60m Status: RO Content-Length: 1375 Lines: 28 In message <19981016180338.X1964@genedata.com> Matthew Wilcox wrote: > On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 08:33:56PM +0000, Simon Glass / Linux wrote: > > Also, is anyone working on a read/write adfs for Linux or ext2 for RISC > > OS? > > A read/write ADFS doesn't really seem interesting any more, now that > Acorn have dropped their Workstations operation. There's IscaFS > for RISC OS which lets you read ext2 partitions - download it from > ftp://ftp.barnet.ac.uk/pub/Acorn/armlinux/iscafs/iscafs.zip If anyone > wants to add writing support, I don't think this will be extremely hard > to do. It's also not very easy. Don't be fooled into thinking that write support is just like read support, but the other way. Writing will involve some fairly complicated functions (there's a tiny amount of support already written, but it hasn't been tested at all and is nowhere near enough support to get even the simplest write functions fully implemented). If anyone wants to try adding write support to IscaFS, PLEASE talk to me about it first. There are some nasty bugs in the cacheing system which don't appear at all when just reading, but could cause SIGNIFICANT data loss if applied to read/write code. I have designed a cacheing system which will overcome this and also be a fair bit faster, but haven't written it yet. Cheers, Phil From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Oct 18 05:14:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA619334 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 05:14:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id FAA14521 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 05:14:00 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma014519; Sun, 18 Oct 98 05:13:50 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:14393 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <8671-3842>; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 06:12:03 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <156617-27811>; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 13:22:35 -0400 Received: from nas5-21.thefree.net ([195.34.196.21]:1964 "EHLO hyperspace.m1cjd.ampr.org" ident: "TIMEDOUT2") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154553-27811>; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 11:43:15 -0400 Received: from localhost (IDENT:alex@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by hyperspace.m1cjd.ampr.org (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id XAA06545; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 23:06:07 +0100 Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 23:06:05 +0100 (BST) From: Alex Holden To: Rob Davis cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Mailling List (Second time) In-Reply-To: <2369559648%rob@oac.u-net.com> Message-ID: X-OS: Linux-2.1.125 X-Mailer: Pine 3.96 X-Subliminal-Message: Use Linux! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 830 Lines: 21 On Sat, 17 Oct 1998, Rob Davis wrote: > I'm just about to bite the bullet and move my email to Linux, the only > problem is that I currently have a mailling list that runs on RiscOS Not a problem... An oppurtunity (to upgrade to an OS designed for servers ;) > (Maillist). It has about 160 subscribers and receives around 20 > messages per day. What is a good program to handle this in Linux? Majordomo (IMO) is the best available. > Is Majordomo available? How do I install it? Take a look at --------------- Linux- the choice of a GNU generation. -------------- : Alex Holden (M1CJD)- Caver, Programmer, Land Rover nut, Radio Ham : -------------------- http://www.linuxhacker.org/ -------------------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Oct 18 05:29:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA760770 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 05:29:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id FAA14537 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 05:29:00 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma014535; Sun, 18 Oct 98 05:28:35 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:14393 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <3853-29664>; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 06:26:33 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <157600-27811>; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 13:23:23 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:1539 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <161639-27811>; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 12:00:50 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0zUed2-0007Ii-00; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 23:15:16 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Archimedes memory mapping question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 23:15:15 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 322 Lines: 9 Does anybody know what the magic incantation is that causes the ROM shadow at address 0 to be turned off? I'm assuming this is done by logic inside MEMC since IOEB is the only other likely-looking suspect and not all machines have that. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From alan@snowcrash.cymru.net Sun Oct 18 03:28:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA803769 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 03:28:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id DAA14389 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 03:28:00 +0200 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net(163.164.160.3) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma014387; Sun, 18 Oct 98 03:27:37 +0200 Received: (from alan@localhost) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) id CAA29689; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 02:27:30 +0100 From: Alan Cox Message-Id: <199810180127.CAA29689@snowcrash.cymru.net> Subject: Re: The Joys of Linux To: linux@arm.uk.linux.org (Russell King - ARM Linux Admin) Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 02:27:27 +0100 (BST) Cc: Matthew.Wilcox@genedata.com, linux@bluewaternz.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <199810170753.IAA00407@raistlin.armlinux.org> from "Russell King - ARM Linux Admin" at Oct 17, 98 08:53:08 am Content-Type: text Status: RO Content-Length: 1126 Lines: 26 > - ADFS stores all information about a file in the directory containing that file > (object id, length, attributes etc). This is referenced by name. Yep > - Linux uses what are called inodes, with a number. This number uniquely > identifies a file/directory on the disk. To get all the information about > a file under Linux, the filesystem is asked for the following. > > 1. What is the inode number of this object? > (eg, RISC OS path: ADFS:$.Library.cc Linux: /Library/cc -> some number) > > 2. Please give me all the information about the object defined by this > inode number. > > The first is easy to do, but the second is not. Currently, the Linux ADFS > filesystem uses as an inode number the disk object ID of the directory and > the entry number in the directory. This is fine when the filesystem is not > writable, because you can guarantee that all the directory entries will not > move. There is no need for inode numbers to be stable across opens. Just stable while active. smbfs is path based and works fine. With the dentry cache in 2.1.x its far far easier to do. Alan From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Oct 18 10:07:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA809365 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 10:07:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA14955 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 10:07:00 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma014953; Sun, 18 Oct 98 10:06:58 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:21547 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <3437-3842>; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 11:05:06 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <156996-27811>; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 19:37:09 -0400 Received: from mintaka.lcs.mit.edu ([18.26.0.36]:1625 "HELO LCS.MIT.EDU" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <157219-27811>; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 16:36:39 -0400 Received: from glenfiddich.lcs.mit.edu by MINTAKA.LCS.MIT.EDU id aa16324; 17 Oct 98 23:02 EDT Received: from guinness by caa.lcs.mit.ed (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA27512; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 22:54:37 -0400 Message-Id: <199810180254.WAA27512@caa.lcs.mit.ed> X-Sender: sandeep@glenfiddich.lcs.mit.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 22:59:58 -0400 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu From: Sandeep Chatterjee Subject: Linux PCMCIA support on Brutus Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 838 Lines: 24 Greetings! We recently got a hold of a StrongARM Brutus board and are trying to get Linux running on it. We've been successful with Russel King and Debby Wallach's port to Brutus. However, there doesn't seem to be any PCMCIA support. Is anybody working on this? It appears that PCMCIA support will first require SRAM support as the CS3REG, which controls the PCMCIA sockets, are mapped into SRAM space (Static Bank 3). But, the StrongARM documentation says that both DRAM and SRAM cannot be used together? Any ideas? Pointers? Thanks! --Sandeep Sandeep Chatterjee Massachusetts Institute of Technology Laboratory for Computer Science 545 Technology Square, NE43-212 Cambridge, MA 02139, USA PH: +1.617.258.5413 FAX: +1.617.253.6652 Email: sandeep@LCS.MIT.EDU unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Oct 18 18:29:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA466392 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 18:29:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA15750 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 18:29:00 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xmaa15745; Sun, 18 Oct 98 18:28:55 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:55645 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2710-29664>; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 19:27:11 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154377-27811>; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 04:33:34 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1986 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154486-27811>; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 03:48:54 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (galatea-33.cableol.net [194.168.16.33]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id PAA07187; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 15:16:13 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA14142; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 09:49:35 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id JAA00365; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 09:46:28 +0100 Message-Id: <199810180846.JAA00365@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: Archimedes memory mapping question To: philb@gnu.org (Philip Blundell) Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 09:46:27 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Philip Blundell" at Oct 17, 98 11:15:15 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1086 Lines: 25 Philip Blundell writes: > Does anybody know what the magic incantation is that causes the ROM shadow at > address 0 to be turned off? Yes. > I'm assuming this is done by logic inside MEMC since IOEB is the only other > likely-looking suspect and not all machines have that. You're right that it isn't that. Oh, I suppose you want to know ;) You have to access a location below 0x01000000, and then a location above 0x02000000. This will occur if the first instruction in the reset vector jumps to the ROM. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Oct 18 18:29:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA814514 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 18:29:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA15749 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 18:29:00 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma015745; Sun, 18 Oct 98 18:28:54 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:55645 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2371-3842>; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 19:26:18 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154261-27811>; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 04:33:29 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1981 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154479-27811>; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 03:48:51 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (galatea-33.cableol.net [194.168.16.33]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id PAA07184; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 15:16:09 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA14151; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 09:52:14 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id JAA00378; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 09:49:07 +0100 Message-Id: <199810180849.JAA00378@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: The Joys of Linux To: alan@cymru.net (Alan Cox) Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 09:49:07 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <199810180127.CAA29689@snowcrash.cymru.net> from "Alan Cox" at Oct 18, 98 02:27:27 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1118 Lines: 21 Alan Cox writes: > There is no need for inode numbers to be stable across opens. Just stable > while active. smbfs is path based and works fine. With the dentry cache > in 2.1.x its far far easier to do. However, since ADFS directories are sorted in alphabetical order, any rename in said directory will cause the inode number as it is currently generated to change. In previous versions of ADFS, there was a sequence number stored with the entry, which was used by the 6502-series machines to track the directory entries for this very reason. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Oct 18 14:45:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA808112 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 14:45:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA15321 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 14:45:30 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma015319; Sun, 18 Oct 98 14:45:17 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:59408 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2209-3842>; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 15:44:23 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <153942-27811>; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 01:27:20 -0400 Received: from jeffray.demon.co.uk ([193.237.58.117]:1054 "EHLO jeffray.demon.co.uk" ident: "ian") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154907-27811>; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 00:27:39 -0400 Received: from localhost (ian@localhost) by jeffray.demon.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA00302 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 11:51:59 +0100 Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 11:51:58 +0100 (BST) From: Ian Jeffray Reply-To: ian@jeffray.demon.co.uk To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Archimedes memory mapping question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1042 Lines: 25 On Sat, 17 Oct 1998, Philip Blundell wrote: > Does anybody know what the magic incantation is that causes the ROM shadow at > address 0 to be turned off? I'm assuming this is done by logic inside MEMC > since IOEB is the only other likely-looking suspect and not all machines have > that. ROM is only "mapped to address 0" when MEMC's RES (Reset) line is asserted - this is because on a reset, vl86c0x0 starts executing from 0 and so this ensures ROM is accessed. To restore the normal memory map, the processor must perform a memory access with the address lines A25 and A24 both low, then perform a memory access with the address line A25 high. These conditions are satisfied when the processor starts executing instructions from address 0, and later jumps to the normal ROM space. Taken mostly from p4-9 of the Acorn Risc Machine Family Data Manual. Hope that helps. Ian -- Ian Jeffray // Tel: 0131 337 9923 // Mobile: 0378 392 963 // ian@eh.org unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Oct 18 15:18:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA813354 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 15:18:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA15405 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 15:18:31 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma015402; Sun, 18 Oct 98 15:18:04 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:10793 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2278-3842>; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:17:02 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <155458-27811>; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 01:59:50 -0400 Received: from post-12.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.41]:62953 "EHLO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154262-27811>; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 00:54:56 -0400 Received: from [194.222.210.232] (helo=tardis.home.dave) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.05demon1 #1) id 0zUquG-0000Km-00; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 11:21:53 +0000 Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 12:21:07 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Gilbert X-Sender: gilbertd@tardis.home.dave To: Philip Blundell cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Archimedes memory mapping question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1095 Lines: 24 On Sat, 17 Oct 1998, Philip Blundell wrote: > Does anybody know what the magic incantation is that causes the ROM shadow at > address 0 to be turned off? I'm assuming this is done by logic inside MEMC > since IOEB is the only other likely-looking suspect and not all machines have > that. Yep - its the MEMC - thus speaketh the book of words (VL86C010 RISC Family data manual'): 'To restore the normal memory map, the processor must first perform a memory access with the address lines A25 and A24 both low and then perform a memory access with address line A25 high. These conditions are satisfied when the processor starts executing instructions from location 00000000H, and later jumps to the normal ROM space./' Dave -------------------------------------------------------------------- / Dr. David Alan Gilbert | Running Linux on Alpha(LX) | Happy \ \ gro.gilbert @ treblig.org | & ARM(EBSA285,old Arc) | In Hex / \____________________________|___ http://www.treblig.demon.co.uk __/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Oct 18 15:19:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA787345 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 15:19:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA15409 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 15:19:00 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma015403; Sun, 18 Oct 98 15:18:30 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:10793 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2305-3842>; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:18:05 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154161-27811>; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 02:00:33 -0400 Received: from post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.27]:61927 "EHLO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154378-27811>; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 00:57:50 -0400 Received: from [194.222.210.232] (helo=tardis.home.dave) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.05demon1 #1) id 0zUqx0-0003Jg-00; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 11:24:42 +0000 Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 12:23:58 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Gilbert X-Sender: gilbertd@tardis.home.dave To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu cc: linux@bluewaternz.com Subject: Writeability of ADFS filesystems (was the Joys of Linux) In-Reply-To: <199810180127.CAA29689@snowcrash.cymru.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 674 Lines: 13 While it would be really useful to be able to write new files etc to the ADFS filesystem, a REALLY useful full step would be to allow modification of the data in an existant file (without modifying its length). That would allow people to write to DOS filesystem images and also swap to an ADFS partition. Dave -------------------------------------------------------------------- / Dr. David Alan Gilbert | Running Linux on Alpha(LX) | Happy \ \ gro.gilbert @ treblig.org | & ARM(EBSA285,old Arc) | In Hex / \____________________________|___ http://www.treblig.demon.co.uk __/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Oct 18 18:29:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA701093 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 18:29:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA15751 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 18:29:00 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xmab15745; Sun, 18 Oct 98 18:28:56 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:55645 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2397-3842>; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 19:27:30 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <153910-27811>; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 04:33:40 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:2042 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154518-27811>; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 03:50:19 -0400 Received: (from alan@localhost) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) id PAA07216; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 15:17:41 +0100 From: Alan Cox Message-Id: <199810181417.PAA07216@snowcrash.cymru.net> Subject: Re: The Joys of Linux To: linux@arm.uk.linux.org (Russell King - ARM Linux Admin) Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 15:17:39 +0100 (BST) Cc: alan@cymru.net, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <199810180849.JAA00378@raistlin.armlinux.org> from "Russell King - ARM Linux Admin" at Oct 18, 98 09:49:07 am Content-Type: text X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 544 Lines: 11 > > There is no need for inode numbers to be stable across opens. Just stable > > while active. smbfs is path based and works fine. With the dentry cache > > in 2.1.x its far far easier to do. > > However, since ADFS directories are sorted in alphabetical order, any rename > in said directory will cause the inode number as it is currently generated > to change. And Smb namespace changes remotely as its a file sharing protocol. Big deal it doesnt cause a problem unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Oct 19 01:38:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA792439 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 01:38:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id BAA16469 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 01:38:31 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma016467; Mon, 19 Oct 98 01:38:07 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:33635 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <928-10133>; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 02:37:01 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <155619-27811>; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 11:06:07 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1240 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <156209-27811>; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 08:51:22 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (galatea-114.cableol.net [194.168.16.114] (may be forged)) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id UAA11959; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 20:19:31 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA15127; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 15:23:53 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id PAA01607; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 15:20:16 +0100 Message-Id: <199810181420.PAA01607@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: Writeability of ADFS filesystems (was the Joys of Linux) To: gilbertd@treblig.org (Dave Gilbert) Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 15:20:15 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Dave Gilbert" at Oct 18, 98 12:23:58 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1068 Lines: 19 Dave Gilbert writes: > While it would be really useful to be able to write new files etc to the > ADFS filesystem, a REALLY useful full step would be to allow modification > of the data in an existant file (without modifying its length). That > would allow people to write to DOS filesystem images and also swap to an > ADFS partition. That can already be done - you can mount the ADFS filesystem read/write, so that the loopback device can write to the contents of a file for this very reason. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Oct 18 19:51:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA815022 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 19:51:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA15903 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 19:51:00 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma015901; Sun, 18 Oct 98 19:50:59 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:21307 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2779-29664>; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 20:48:24 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154324-27811>; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 06:05:27 -0400 Received: from post-12.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.41]:54805 "EHLO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <155921-27811>; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 04:57:56 -0400 Received: from [212.228.88.2] (helo=reinhouse.demon.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.05demon1 #1) id 0zUuhs-0000l4-00 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 15:25:24 +0000 Received: from loopback ([127.0.0.1]) by reinhouse.demon.co.uk with SMTP; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 14:02:53 GMT Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 15:38:45 +0100 From: Timothy Baldwin To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: The Joys of Linux Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199810180127.CAA29689@snowcrash.cymru.net> X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40d for RISC OS X-Editor: Zap, using ZapEmail 0.21beta MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60m X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1312 Lines: 28 In message <199810180127.CAA29689@snowcrash.cymru.net> Alan Cox wrote: [snip about ADFS] > > Currently, the Linux ADFS filesystem uses as an inode number the disk > > object ID of the directory and the entry number in the directory. > > This is fine when the filesystem is not writable, because you can > > guarantee that all the directory entries will not move. > > There is no need for inode numbers to be stable across opens. Just stable > while active. smbfs is path based and works fine. With the dentry cache > in 2.1.x its far far easier to do. The inode problem is solvable by ensuring the directory entry contains either the reference to the same file or a pointer to the real directory entry. (The contents of unused directory entries is undefined). The big problem is the allocation of space: Disc objects may be fragmented, but each fragment has a minimum size and fragments must be kept in order on the filesystem. Disc objects can contain many small files in the same directory (and the directory) or be one big file. This means it may be necessary to move data on the filesystem, including defragmenting the filesystem, on file extension, creation and rename between directories. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Oct 18 19:05:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA799825 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 19:05:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA15835 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 19:05:00 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma015833; Sun, 18 Oct 98 19:04:48 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:20780 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2395-29664>; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 20:02:51 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154945-27811>; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 05:31:59 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:1709 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <156112-27811>; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 05:15:45 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0zUuog-0005EF-00; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:32:22 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Melanie Rhianna Lewis cc: Arm Linux mailing list Subject: Re: ELF (Again) (fwd) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 17 Oct 1998 12:12:16 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:32:22 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 2853 Lines: 58 Melanie Rhianna Lewis wrote: >behind in this respect. In ELF libraries are dynamically linked when the >program is run. Ie the library functions an application needs to run >remain in the libraries and are called from the application. Where as for >aout the libraries are statically linked. Ie the necessary functions from Actually, this isn't quite true. It's possible to use shared libraries and dynamic linking with a.out -- Linux used to do this in libc4 days and NetBSD still does for many ports. However, a.out shared libraries are rather gruesome to work with, especially if done the Linux way, and ELF makes this a lot easier. >compiled and linked. This makes it a lot bigger (although slightly faster >to run). With some binaries this can be quite dramatic actually. I remember while I was at college writing a Modula-3 "hello world" program. The dynamic-linked executable was "only" about 1MB, but took something like 10 seconds to start because it was pulling in thirty different shared libraries. The static executable was several tens of megabytes but ran almost instantaneously. :-) The overhead from using PIC for shared libraries is almost certainly negligible these days. The ARM design for PLT is reasonably efficient and I think the slowdown there will be more than outweighed by the speed improvement you get from using glibc rather than libc4. >It doesn't mean you can run applications written for a different >processor. Indeed. Though, in theory, because it's far more of a cross-platform standard than a.out, you stand a far greater chance of being able to use applications written for the same processor but a different operating system. (Incidentally, one way to run Netscape for RiscPC owners would be for someone to add iBCS support for the ARM and use the NetBSD version; I don't think they compile with v4 instructions.) >One point is that ELF will be initially (until someone who's willing puts >lots of hours in) only 32bit addressing. That means RiscPC upwards... As it happens, I have simple ELF binaries working on my A5000 now. The dynamic linker is segfaulting which seems to be because the kernel doesn't load it properly. But statically linked things seem OK. All the code in glibc should, I hope, be 26-bit clean and the latest egcs and binutils patches have the support needed for old machines. There are some kernel changes needed for this and I'll try to make patches later today. At the moment I'm using 2.0.35 on the A5000 because 2.1 seems to dislike both low-memory systems and ARM3 ones at the moment. In theory it should be possible to arrange for 26-bit ELF binaries to run on all machines so that people with Netwinders can run all the ARM Linux software out there. :-) p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Oct 18 18:54:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA811821 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 18:54:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA15822 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 18:54:00 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma015820; Sun, 18 Oct 98 18:53:57 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:20780 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <3046-3842>; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 19:53:22 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <155351-27811>; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 05:31:45 -0400 Received: from Ocean.CAM.ORG ([198.168.100.5]:63543 "EHLO Ocean.CAM.ORG" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154111-27811>; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 05:14:52 -0400 Received: from localhost (nico@localhost) by Ocean.CAM.ORG (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id LAA21231; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 11:42:40 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: Ocean.CAM.ORG: nico owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 11:42:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre To: Sandeep Chatterjee cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Linux PCMCIA support on Brutus In-Reply-To: <199810180254.WAA27512@caa.lcs.mit.ed> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1380 Lines: 37 On Sat, 17 Oct 1998, Sandeep Chatterjee wrote: > Greetings! > > We recently got a hold of a StrongARM Brutus board and are trying to get > Linux running on it. We've been successful with Russel King and Debby > Wallach's port to Brutus. However, there doesn't seem to be any PCMCIA > support. Is anybody working on this? Yes I do. My mostly latest diff against Russel 2.0.35 tree is available at ftp://stp.cam.org/users/nico. > It appears that PCMCIA support will first require SRAM support as the > CS3REG, which controls the PCMCIA sockets, are mapped into SRAM > space (Static Bank 3). But, the StrongARM documentation says that > both DRAM and SRAM cannot be used together? Any ideas? Pointers? On Brutus there's a CPLD mapped into bank 3 which controls all the extra glue logic for PCMCIA. You just have to access it directly since Angel already made all necessary setup. You may look at Angel's source to see how they did it. If you use my diff, all PCMCIA space is virtually mapped. However the CPLD isn't (I did it afterwards). Actually I'm about to drive a hard disk via an IDE card. It still needs some trick to the interrupt routine. When I'll be successful with it I'll put another diff online. Hope to do so before the end of this week. Nicolas Pitre, B. ing. nico@cam.org unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Oct 18 21:55:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA762574 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 21:55:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA16082 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 21:55:30 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma016080; Sun, 18 Oct 98 21:55:28 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:45690 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <1015-3842>; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 22:55:10 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <156579-27811>; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 08:06:03 -0400 Received: from mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com ([157.161.173.16]:2447 "EHLO mail.core.genedata.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <155243-27811>; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 06:19:43 -0400 Received: from relay.ch.genedata.com (pinatubo-e0.ch.genedata.com [157.161.173.32]) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA15793; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 18:47:26 +0200 Received: from mencheca.ch.genedata.com (root@mencheca.ch.genedata.com [157.161.173.82]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA814888; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 18:47:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: by genedata.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.101) for linux@bluewaternz.com; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 20:54:33 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <19981018205433.L1964@genedata.com> Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 20:54:33 +0200 From: Matthew Wilcox To: Dave Gilbert , linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Cc: linux@bluewaternz.com Subject: Re: Writeability of ADFS filesystems (was the Joys of Linux) References: <199810180127.CAA29689@snowcrash.cymru.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.2 In-Reply-To: ; from Dave Gilbert on Sun, Oct 18, 1998 at 12:23:58PM +0100 X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1561 Lines: 31 On Sun, Oct 18, 1998 at 12:23:58PM +0100, Dave Gilbert wrote: > While it would be really useful to be able to write new files etc to the > ADFS filesystem, a REALLY useful full step would be to allow modification > of the data in an existant file (without modifying its length). That > would allow people to write to DOS filesystem images and also swap to an > ADFS partition. This already works. I can't take any credit for it; all you need to do is delete all the references to RDONLY within the source to the ADFS fs. I believe Russell has done so for the latest versions. You can write to image files such as the DOS partition file or an ext2 image (this is how my linux-without- partitioning concept works. See my web pages, http://pocket.fluff.org/~mrw/armlinux/ for details). Beware that for DOS images, you need to skip the partition table at the start; so you want something along the lines of: losetup -o 7680 /dev/loop2 /mnt/adfs/Emulators/Drive_C This works just fine for me. (For those that are interested; the loop device works by calling the bmap function which was already implemented. So this is slightly different from calling the write function which is not implemented, so will return an error.) -- Matthew Wilcox "I decry the current tendency to seek patents on algorithms. There are better ways to earn a living than to prevent other people from making use of one's contributions to computer science." -- Donald E. Knuth, TAoCP vol 3 unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Oct 18 22:15:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA703287 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 22:15:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA16114 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 22:15:30 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma016112; Sun, 18 Oct 98 22:15:09 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:8800 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <1000-3842>; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 23:14:50 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <155366-27811>; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 08:13:10 -0400 Received: from mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com ([157.161.173.16]:2893 "EHLO mail.core.genedata.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <156135-27811>; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 06:35:57 -0400 Received: from relay.ch.genedata.com (pinatubo-e0.ch.genedata.com [157.161.173.32]) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA15830; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 19:03:43 +0200 Received: from mencheca.ch.genedata.com (root@mencheca.ch.genedata.com [157.161.173.82]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA815204; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 19:03:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: by genedata.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.101) for melanie@defaid.demon.co.uk; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 21:10:50 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <19981018211050.M1964@genedata.com> Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 21:10:50 +0200 From: Matthew Wilcox To: Melanie Rhianna Lewis , Arm Linux mailing list Subject: Re: ELF (Again) (fwd) References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.2 In-Reply-To: ; from Melanie Rhianna Lewis on Sat, Oct 17, 1998 at 12:12:16PM +0100 X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 2598 Lines: 47 On Sat, Oct 17, 1998 at 12:12:16PM +0100, Melanie Rhianna Lewis wrote: > > Where are things with ELF on a RiscPC these days, and what will it > > mean for your average (non-technical) user? > > As you may already know, ELF is the form of executables that most releases > of Linux use. It is newer than the old aout format. ArmLinux is a little > behind in this respect. In ELF libraries are dynamically linked when the > program is run. Ie the library functions an application needs to run > remain in the libraries and are called from the application. Where as for > aout the libraries are statically linked. Ie the necessary functions from > the library are included in to the application when the application is > compiled and linked. This makes it a lot bigger (although slightly faster > to run). Actually, this is not true. It was true for RiscBSD, and one of the ways of working round the limitations of our current a.out setup is to recompile some things statically linked, so it's easy to be confused. The a.out method of dynamically linking requires libraries to be compiled at a fixed address. This has great disadvantages, since it requires someone to allocate address space, and if your library grows out of the slot it used to fit in, you have to move it to a totally new address. In short, it's a maintenance nightmare. It's particularly bad, since the same executables run on both 26-bit and 32-bit processors. So the libraries are linked in below the 32MB boundary - I believe Russell said at 20MB for the C library. This means that anything which requires large amounts of memory is going to have problems. > > Does this mean that it's run things like Netscape straight from the > > setup files, or just that any recompiled program will be smaller? > > It doesn't mean you can run applications written for a different > processor. So the standard Linux release of Netscape wont work. It uses > Intel instructions and not ARM ones. It does mean that all the newer > libraries and applications, which would just be too big in aout format, > can be compiled for ArmLinux. Well, unless Netscape can be persuaded to release a binary compiled for the ARM. Which Corel might be able to do, of course. And don't forget Mozilla. -- Matthew Wilcox "I decry the current tendency to seek patents on algorithms. There are better ways to earn a living than to prevent other people from making use of one's contributions to computer science." -- Donald E. Knuth, TAoCP vol 3 unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Oct 19 03:11:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA823275 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 03:11:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id DAA16640 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 03:11:35 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma016638; Mon, 19 Oct 98 03:11:07 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:24161 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <864-10133>; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 04:09:30 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <155613-27811>; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 11:56:58 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1330 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154104-27811>; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 08:55:25 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (galatea-114.cableol.net [194.168.16.114] (may be forged)) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id UAA12005; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 20:23:32 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA15866; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 20:28:27 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id UAA02912; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 20:24:22 +0100 Message-Id: <199810181924.UAA02912@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: The Joys of Linux To: tim@reinhouse.demon.co.uk (Timothy Baldwin) Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 20:24:22 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Timothy Baldwin" at Oct 18, 98 03:38:45 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1713 Lines: 34 Timothy Baldwin writes: > > In message <199810180127.CAA29689@snowcrash.cymru.net> > Alan Cox wrote: > > [snip about ADFS] > > > > Currently, the Linux ADFS filesystem uses as an inode number the disk > > > object ID of the directory and the entry number in the directory. > > > This is fine when the filesystem is not writable, because you can > > > guarantee that all the directory entries will not move. > > > > There is no need for inode numbers to be stable across opens. Just stable > > while active. smbfs is path based and works fine. With the dentry cache > > in 2.1.x its far far easier to do. > > The inode problem is solvable by ensuring the directory entry contains > either the reference to the same file or a pointer to the real directory > entry. (The contents of unused directory entries is undefined). No, as I keep on saying, if you delete an entry, or rename an entry the order changes, and so the physical location of said directory entries change. At the moment, any change in the current directory structure will cause chaos in the current implementation of adfs under Linux. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From almesber@lrcsun15.epfl.ch Sun Oct 18 22:57:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA770932 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 22:57:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA16170 for ; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 22:57:00 +0200 Received: from lrcsun15.epfl.ch(128.178.156.77) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma016168; Sun, 18 Oct 98 22:56:35 +0200 Received: (from almesber@localhost) by lrcsun15.epfl.ch (8.8.X/EPFL-8.1a) id WAA18362; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 22:51:47 +0200 (MET DST) From: Werner Almesberger Message-Id: <199810182051.WAA18362@lrcsun15.epfl.ch> Subject: Re: crosscompilation To: Matthew.Wilcox@genedata.com (Matthew Wilcox) Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 22:51:47 +0200 (MET DST) Cc: linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu, almesber@lrc.di.epfl.ch, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <19981019000340.N1964@genedata.com> from "Matthew Wilcox" at Oct 19, 98 00:03:40 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO Content-Length: 696 Lines: 19 Matthew Wilcox wrote: > Note that this would have been better to linux-arm, as I only get > linux-kernel as digest. Just sent the subscription request ... > You should be using binutils 2.9.1.0.15, not plain 2.9.1. This includes > linux-arm support. egcs is reputed to work better than gcc 2.8.1. Thanks, Philip Blundell already replied to me in private mail and I'm now happily running binutils 2.9.1.0.15 and a slightly patched egcs 1.1b. Thanks, - Werner -- _________________________________________________________________________ / Werner Almesberger, DI-ICA,EPFL,CH werner.almesberger@lrc.di.epfl.ch / /_IN_R_131__Tel_+41_21_693_6621__Fax_+41_21_693_6610_____________________/ From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Oct 19 01:49:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA717907 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 01:49:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id BAA16485 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 01:49:31 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma016481; Mon, 19 Oct 98 01:49:25 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:33635 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <919-11414>; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 02:47:48 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <155017-27811>; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 11:06:27 -0400 Received: from mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com ([157.161.173.16]:4237 "EHLO mail.core.genedata.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <156366-27811>; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 09:28:07 -0400 Received: from relay.ch.genedata.com (pinatubo-e0.ch.genedata.com [157.161.173.32]) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA16086; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 21:56:33 +0200 Received: from mencheca.ch.genedata.com (root@mencheca.ch.genedata.com [157.161.173.82]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA816625; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 21:56:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: by genedata.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.101) for almesber@lrc.di.epfl.ch; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 00:03:40 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <19981019000340.N1964@genedata.com> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 00:03:40 +0200 From: Matthew Wilcox To: linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu, almesber@lrc.di.epfl.ch, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: crosscompilation References: <19981018041920Z154411-27811+2165@vger.rutgers.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.2 In-Reply-To: <19981018041920Z154411-27811+2165@vger.rutgers.edu>; from owner-linux-kernel-digest@vger.rutgers.edu on Sat, Oct 17, 1998 at 10:59:57PM -0400 X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 2134 Lines: 45 Note that this would have been better to linux-arm, as I only get linux-kernel as digest. > From: Werner Almesberger > Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 02:31:36 +0200 (MET DST) > Subject: ARM cross-compilation > > I'm trying to cross-compile 2.1.125 on a i386 for ARM. I'm a bit puzzled > about the gcc and binutils to use ... > > - http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/armlinux/tools.html tells me that > gcc/binutils 2.8 are broken and suggests to use some patched-up > versions of gcc 2.7.2.2 and binutils 2.7. Tried that, but gcc fails > to build libgcc1.a > - Documentation/ARM-README in ftp://ftp.arm.uk.linux.org/pub/armlinux/ > kernel-sources/v2.1/pre-patch-2.1.125-19981015-1.gz tells me that > gcc 2.8 and even egcs are fine. Tried gcc 2.8.1 and binutils 2.9.1, > and lo and behold, everything builds just okay. > > There is one minor twist, though: so far I've only built for the > target arm-psion-aout. Trying to build a kernel with this looks like a > major uphill battle, because there seem to be many ELF dependencies. > (Section attributes, etc.) > > A look at binutils*/bfd/config.bfd reveals that ELF is not supported for > the ARM (binutils 2.8.1 and 2.9.1). But Documentation/ARM-README teases: > > CROSS_COMPILE=/usr/bin/arm-unknown-linuxelf- > (./configure just laughs at this ...) > > Now I'm confused. What kind of binutils are people using for compiling > kernels for ARMs then ?? Or are 2.1 kernels simply not supposed to > compile and I should try 2.0 ? You should be using binutils 2.9.1.0.15, not plain 2.9.1. This includes linux-arm support. egcs is reputed to work better than gcc 2.8.1. I believe Phil Blundell has some patches for egcs which are not yet merged in. See http://www.tazenda.demon.co.uk/phil/armlinux/ for details -- Matthew Wilcox "I decry the current tendency to seek patents on algorithms. There are better ways to earn a living than to prevent other people from making use of one's contributions to computer science." -- Donald E. Knuth, TAoCP vol 3 unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From neil@causality.com Mon Oct 19 00:50:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA810426 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 00:50:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA16399 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 00:50:31 +0200 Received: from post-11.mail.demon.net(194.217.242.40) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma016397; Mon, 19 Oct 98 00:50:20 +0200 Received: from [158.152.208.192] (helo=causality.com) by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.05demon1 #1) id 0zV1eT-0001Wb-00; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 22:50:17 +0000 Sender: neil@mail.core.genedata.com Message-ID: <362A71D7.AF65AC32@causality.com> Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 23:55:19 +0100 From: "Neil A. Carson" Organization: Causality Limited X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Wilcox CC: Melanie Rhianna Lewis , Arm Linux mailing list Subject: Re: ELF (Again) (fwd) References: <19981018211050.M1964@genedata.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 1192 Lines: 24 Matthew Wilcox wrote: > Actually, this is not true. It was true for RiscBSD, and one of the > ways of working round the limitations of our current a.out setup is to > recompile some things statically linked, so it's easy to be confused. > The a.out method of dynamically linking requires libraries to be compiled > at a fixed address. This has great disadvantages, since it requires > someone to allocate address space, and if your library grows out of the > slot it used to fit in, you have to move it to a totally new address. > In short, it's a maintenance nightmare. It's particularly bad, since > the same executables run on both 26-bit and 32-bit processors. So the > libraries are linked in below the 32MB boundary - I believe Russell > said at 20MB for the C library. This means that anything which requires > large amounts of memory is going to have problems. NetBSD (was RiscBSD) uses full PIC with a.out, so it provides for large applications, position independant shared libraries etc. Things like gimp, kde, qt, gnome, mozilla, netscape and others all work fine completely shared up to a maximum of 3gig of address space---no need for static linking. -- Neil A. Carson From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Oct 19 12:01:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA837286 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 12:01:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA17978 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 12:01:36 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xmaa17945; Mon, 19 Oct 98 12:01:15 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:26960 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2562-11414>; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 12:58:58 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <155432-27811>; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 22:52:56 -0400 Received: from post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.27]:62088 "EHLO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <157645-27811>; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 22:30:39 -0400 Received: from [158.152.96.167] (helo=defaid.demon.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.05demon1 #1) id 0zVBAz-00011C-00 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:00:29 +0000 Received: from localhost (melanie@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by defaid.demon.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA00994 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:56:35 +0100 Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:56:35 +0100 (BST) From: Melanie Rhianna Lewis To: Arm Linux mailing list Subject: Re: ELF (Again) (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: Trans-world BBS [+44 117 904 0901] X-Mailer: Pine 3.96 X-Host: Melanie's Linux Box - Mournblade X-MandM-To: ALL MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 617 Lines: 15 On Sun, 18 Oct 1998, Philip Blundell wrote lots... Does anyone object to me writing a few "idiots guide"/"how to" web pages and putting them on my site. Critism would be welcome. Melanie -- ===================================================================== Melanie Rhianna Lewis melanie@defaid.demon.co.uk "An it hurt none, do what thou will" http://www.defaid.demon.co.uk TLBB#2 TGMCC#1 - GS550 (In potentia), X7 (In bits!), MZ 125TS ===================================================================== unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Oct 19 12:01:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA846546 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 12:01:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA17977 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 12:01:36 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma017945; Mon, 19 Oct 98 12:01:14 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:26960 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2131-10133>; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 12:57:57 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154646-27811>; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 22:52:52 -0400 Received: from post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.27]:62085 "EHLO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <157643-27811>; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 22:30:37 -0400 Received: from [158.152.96.167] (helo=defaid.demon.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.05demon1 #1) id 0zVBAw-00011C-00 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:00:26 +0000 Received: from localhost (melanie@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by defaid.demon.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA01017 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 10:00:12 +0100 Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 10:00:12 +0100 (BST) From: Melanie Rhianna Lewis To: Arm Linux mailing list Subject: Re: ELF (Again) (fwd) In-Reply-To: <19981018211050.M1964@genedata.com> Message-ID: Organization: Trans-world BBS [+44 117 904 0901] X-Mailer: Pine 3.96 X-Host: Melanie's Linux Box - Mournblade X-MandM-To: ALL MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 754 Lines: 19 On Sun, 18 Oct 1998, Matthew Wilcox wrote: > Well, unless Netscape can be persuaded to release a binary compiled for > the ARM. Which Corel might be able to do, of course. And don't forget > Mozilla. Or get ELF working, followed by QT and use the QT Netscape port (browser only). This has been done on Netwinder. Melanie -- ===================================================================== Melanie Rhianna Lewis melanie@defaid.demon.co.uk "An it hurt none, do what thou will" http://www.defaid.demon.co.uk TLBB#2 TGMCC#1 - GS550 (In potentia), X7 (In bits!), MZ 125TS ===================================================================== unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Oct 19 13:32:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA713819 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:32:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA18286 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:32:37 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma018282; Mon, 19 Oct 98 13:32:30 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:15367 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2694-10133>; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 14:32:14 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <153969-27811>; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 00:39:38 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:13087 "EHLO globe.nexus.co.uk" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <156475-27811>; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 00:24:04 -0400 Received: from [192.0.0.21] (helo=fountain.nexus.co.uk ident=mail) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 0zVCYd-0006ta-00; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:28:59 +0100 Received: from fountain.nexus.co.uk ([127.0.0.1] ident=pb) by fountain.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #1) id 0zVCYc-0008Rw-00; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:28:58 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) To: Melanie Rhianna Lewis cc: Arm Linux mailing list Subject: Re: ELF (Again) (fwd) In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:56:35 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:28:57 +0200 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 202 Lines: 9 >Does anyone object to me writing a few "idiots guide"/"how to" web pages >and putting them on my site. No, go ahead. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Oct 19 12:39:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA832041 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 12:39:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA18082 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 12:39:06 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma018080; Mon, 19 Oct 98 12:38:36 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:26960 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2315-10133>; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:34:58 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154338-27811>; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 23:37:52 -0400 Received: from bits.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.64.1]:2715 "EHLO BITS.bris.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <156065-27811>; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 23:05:43 -0400 Received: from localhost (dooby@localhost) by BITS.bris.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA19066 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 10:35:00 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 10:35:00 +0100 (BST) From: dooby To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: X display in 256 colours Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 999 Lines: 29 On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, Melanie Rhianna Lewis wrote: > On Wed, 14 Oct 1998, dooby wrote lots of stuff > > First of all I think you are confused. X has nothing to do with the > kernel. Its up to the X server. I know this, but I imagine that if the kernel has been 'broken' so it doesn't properly support mode changes (eg expects a VIDC20) then that's going to have an impact on the display... > Secondly why would you want to run X in mode 15, unless you only have a > PAL monitor. Its far too small. I find 640x480 (Mode 28) too small (but > my good monitor is on my Intel Linux box) but it does work in my RPC. I was desparate - and tried everything ;-) Also, it would make a _slight_ speed difference, by freeing more memory (there's precious little as it is, and 320K / 8192K for the screen mode is significant :-| > I think you need help from a fellow A5000 owner. Me too - where are they all?! Cheers, dooby unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Oct 19 13:08:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA856487 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:08:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA18160 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:08:07 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma018157; Mon, 19 Oct 98 13:07:51 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:9268 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2444-11414>; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 14:04:37 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154518-27811>; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 23:54:19 -0400 Received: from relay.neurotec.de ([194.120.241.1]:1986 "HELO relay.neurotec.de" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <154490-27811>; Sun, 18 Oct 1998 23:35:05 -0400 Received: (from shutdown@localhost) by relay.neurotec.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA17914 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:02:46 +0100 Received: from hermes.neurotec.de(192.168.200.6) by relay.neurotec.de via smap (V1.3) id sma017912; Mon Oct 19 11:02:29 1998 Received: from neurotec.de (australia.neurotec.de [192.168.200.134]) by hermes.neurotec.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA31289 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 12:15:52 +0200 Message-ID: <362B0EC8.14C896BF@neurotec.de> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 12:04:56 +0200 From: Eduard Pfarr Organization: Aut Deus aut Nihil X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [de] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Arm Linux Subject: Re: ELF (Again) (fwd) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;Linux-Arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 464 Lines: 13 Melanie Rhianna Lewis schrieb: > On Sun, 18 Oct 1998, Philip Blundell wrote lots... > > Does anyone object to me writing a few "idiots guide"/"how to" web pages > and putting them on my site. Critism would be welcome. It would be great to have a few "idiots" guides. Please tell us when they're ready so we (uhm, I) could test em (because of constructive critism). Cheers, Eduard. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Oct 20 04:28:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA910501 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 04:28:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id EAA20341 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 04:28:14 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma020339; Tue, 20 Oct 98 04:27:55 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:39270 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2634-6828>; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 05:26:05 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <157172-27811>; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 14:11:03 -0400 Received: from post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.27]:36065 "EHLO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <157179-27811>; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 12:15:24 -0400 Received: from [212.228.88.2] (helo=reinhouse.demon.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.05demon1 #1) id 0zVO5T-0006NV-00 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 22:47:43 +0000 Received: from loopback ([127.0.0.1]) by reinhouse.demon.co.uk with SMTP; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:52:00 GMT Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:07:35 +0100 From: Timothy Baldwin To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: The Joys of Linux Message-ID: <486e6b9748%tim@reinhouse.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <199810180849.JAA00378@raistlin.armlinux.org> X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40d for RISC OS X-Editor: Zap, using ZapEmail 0.21beta MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60m X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 681 Lines: 16 In message <199810180849.JAA00378@raistlin.armlinux.org> Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote: > However, since ADFS directories are sorted in alphabetical order, any > rename in said directory will cause the inode number as it is currently > generated to change. Although ADFS maintains directories in alphabetical order, the order is not specified, therefore the Linux adfs filesystem need not maintain the order. I have verified that the order does not matter by experimentation. I have also verified that the contents of unused directory entries does not matter. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Oct 19 13:32:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA840603 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:32:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA18285 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:32:37 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma018279; Mon, 19 Oct 98 13:32:07 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:15367 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2181-10133>; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 14:31:43 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154896-27811>; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 00:39:03 -0400 Received: from post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.27]:54602 "EHLO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <156419-27811>; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 00:21:11 -0400 Received: from [193.237.23.100] (helo=gate.sw.milldev.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.05demon1 #1) id 0zVCu9-0001xC-00; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 10:51:14 +0000 Received: from florence.sw.milldev.co.uk (florence.sw.milldev.co.uk [192.168.0.6]) by gate.sw.milldev.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21934; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:53:05 +0100 From: Russell King Received: (from rmk@localhost) by florence.sw.milldev.co.uk (8.8.5/8.7.3) id LAA08539; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:53:04 +0100 Message-Id: <199810191053.LAA08539@florence.sw.milldev.co.uk> Subject: Re: X display in 256 colours To: dooby@BITS.bris.ac.uk (dooby) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:53:03 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "dooby" at Oct 19, 98 10:35:00 am Content-Type: text X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1168 Lines: 27 dooby said: > On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, Melanie Rhianna Lewis wrote: > > First of all I think you are confused. X has nothing to do with the > > kernel. Its up to the X server. > > I know this, but I imagine that if the kernel has been 'broken' so it > doesn't properly support mode changes (eg expects a VIDC20) then that's > going to have an impact on the display... Linux currently does not support mode changes full stop. It needs to know about your monitor in order to do this, and there is currently no way of doing this. > > Secondly why would you want to run X in mode 15, unless you only have a > > PAL monitor. Its far too small. I find 640x480 (Mode 28) too small (but > > my good monitor is on my Intel Linux box) but it does work in my RPC. > > I was desparate - and tried everything ;-) Also, it would make a _slight_ > speed difference, by freeing more memory (there's precious little as it > is, and 320K / 8192K for the screen mode is significant :-| If you want to run it in mode 15, start it up in this before entering Linux. -- Russell King (rmk@milldev.demon.co.uk) unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Oct 19 14:33:38 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA832340 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 14:33:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA18472 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 14:33:37 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma018469; Mon, 19 Oct 98 14:33:22 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:13325 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2742-10133>; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 15:29:38 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154104-27811>; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 01:01:55 -0400 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU ([129.94.242.29]:2514 "HELO note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU" ident: "root") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <154477-27811>; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 00:40:05 -0400 Received: From urquell With LocalMail ; Mon, 19 Oct 98 21:10:01 +1000 From: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" To: Eduard Pfarr Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 21:10:01 +1000 (EST) X-Sender: awiggins@urquell.disy.cse.unsw.EDU.AU cc: Arm Linux Subject: Re: ELF (Again) (fwd) In-Reply-To: <362B0EC8.14C896BF@neurotec.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;Linux-Arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 636 Lines: 18 On Mon, 19 Oct 1998, Eduard Pfarr wrote: > Melanie Rhianna Lewis schrieb: > > > On Sun, 18 Oct 1998, Philip Blundell wrote lots... > > > > Does anyone object to me writing a few "idiots guide"/"how to" web pages > > and putting them on my site. Critism would be welcome. > > It would be great to have a few "idiots" guides. Please tell us when they're > ready so we (uhm, I) could test em (because of constructive critism). An "idiots" guide to getting linux on the SA-1100 brutus eval board would be appreciated if anyone gets the time. Cheers Adam unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Oct 19 15:26:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA883880 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 15:26:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA18639 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 15:26:07 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma018628; Mon, 19 Oct 98 15:25:50 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:1405 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2396-11414>; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 16:21:54 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <155518-27811>; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 01:50:01 -0400 Received: from bits.bris.ac.uk ([137.222.64.1]:3128 "EHLO BITS.bris.ac.uk" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <155642-27811>; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 01:43:42 -0400 Received: from localhost (dooby@localhost) by BITS.bris.ac.uk (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA14034 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:13:48 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:13:48 +0100 (BST) From: dooby To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: X display in 256 colours In-Reply-To: <199810191053.LAA08539@florence.sw.milldev.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1693 Lines: 41 On Mon, 19 Oct 1998, Russell King wrote: > dooby said: > > On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, Melanie Rhianna Lewis wrote: > > > First of all I think you are confused. X has nothing to do with the > > > kernel. Its up to the X server. > > > > I know this, but I imagine that if the kernel has been 'broken' so it > > doesn't properly support mode changes (eg expects a VIDC20) then that's > > going to have an impact on the display... > > Linux currently does not support mode changes full stop. It needs to know > about your monitor in order to do this, and there is currently no way of > doing this. > > > > Secondly why would you want to run X in mode 15, unless you only have a > > > PAL monitor. Its far too small. I find 640x480 (Mode 28) too small (but > > > my good monitor is on my Intel Linux box) but it does work in my RPC. > > > > I was desparate - and tried everything ;-) Also, it would make a _slight_ > > speed difference, by freeing more memory (there's precious little as it > > is, and 320K / 8192K for the screen mode is significant :-| > > If you want to run it in mode 15, start it up in this before entering Linux. I have tried this (and other 256 colour modes). After typing startx the screen goes black, and the monitor (an AKF18 :-| ) shows nothing. It is correctly configured under RISC OS. If anyone has ideas (Russell? ;-) I'd be very grateful, 'cos X is quite a beast in only 16 colours. What other info do people need about my system? 2.0.30-2.0.33 kernels tried, 2 from the ftp site, 1 made myself. A5000 8MB RAM + IDE harddisc (ie root is on hdb3). Thanks for any assistance, dooby unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Oct 19 21:40:39 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA898810 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 21:40:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA19586 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 21:40:38 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma019584; Mon, 19 Oct 98 21:40:13 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:14137 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2912-11414>; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 22:37:17 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <156802-27811>; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 08:02:11 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1043 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154269-27811>; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 06:58:20 -0400 Received: (from alan@localhost) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) id SAA04952; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 18:29:55 +0100 From: Alan Cox Message-Id: <199810191729.SAA04952@snowcrash.cymru.net> Subject: Re: ELF (Again) (fwd) To: melanie@defaid.demon.co.uk (Melanie Rhianna Lewis) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 18:29:52 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Melanie Rhianna Lewis" at Oct 19, 98 10:00:12 am Content-Type: text X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 391 Lines: 7 > Or get ELF working, followed by QT and use the QT Netscape port (browser > only). This has been done on Netwinder. The official netscape mozilla ports (mo^H^Hlesstif and gtk) should both work on the ARM too if Qtscape does. Commercial releases will depend on netscape being shown a market worth having I expect. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Oct 20 02:46:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA892901 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 02:46:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id CAA20160 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 02:46:40 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma020158; Tue, 20 Oct 98 02:46:22 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:29720 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <5436-6828>; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 03:44:01 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <155474-27811>; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 12:18:26 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1573 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <156729-27811>; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:06:04 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (galatea-108.cableol.net [194.168.16.108] (may be forged)) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id WAA09122; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 22:38:14 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA19626; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 22:06:38 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id WAA00655; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 22:00:17 +0100 Message-Id: <199810192100.WAA00655@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: The Joys of Linux To: linux@bluewaternz.com (Simon Glass / Linux) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 22:00:16 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Simon Glass / Linux" at Oct 19, 98 00:15:48 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 2602 Lines: 46 Simon Glass / Linux writes: > I think you just maintain a table of all the changes, and consult it before > using the heuristic already used for read-only. > > After all, DOS works! I know dos works, but DOS doesn't have the entries in it's directories moving position randomly when you delete files. DOS uses the location of the directory and the position within the directory to calculate an inode number. In read-only ADFS, I do the same thing - an inode number of a file consists of the parent (directory) object id and it's location within the object. This works because the directory entries are static when the filesystem is readonly. You add write support, and this blows it right out of the water - eg, you look up a file and it turns out to be the 15th entry of directory. You generate an inode number based on this information. You then delete a file preceeding the 15th entry in that directory. This causes the 15th entry to now be the 14th entry. You search for what was originally the 16th entry and find it in the 15th, and as before you generate an inode number for this based in this information. Now for the crunch: this inode number is the same as the inode number you generated for what is now the 14th entry (which could still be in use) and hey presto - you're accessing the inode structure for the wrong file! The current system of inode allocation only works *because it is read-only*. If someone can think up a way of allocating inode numbers to a totally dynamic filesystem without any concept of inodes, I'd be happy to hear them. About the only thing that I can think of doing to make ADFS writable under Linux is to ensure that when you have an inode in use which belongs to a directory to *lock the directory against any changes* until all inodes in that directory /and/ their cached versions have been unused/flushed. This means that if you have a file in use, you can't delete or rename anything in the directory, and I think that this is far too restrictive to warrant implementation. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Oct 20 02:49:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA803133 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 02:49:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id CAA20167 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 02:49:10 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma020165; Tue, 20 Oct 98 02:49:01 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:29720 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <5356-6828>; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 03:48:51 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <156436-27811>; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 12:18:41 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1650 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <156939-27811>; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:09:16 -0400 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (galatea-108.cableol.net [194.168.16.108] (may be forged)) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id WAA09118; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 22:38:10 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA19684; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 22:28:22 +0100 From: Russell King Received: (from rmk@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id WAA00746; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 22:21:59 +0100 Message-Id: <199810192121.WAA00746@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: gcc for arm linux To: SERIJAVA@chollian.net (JongMoon) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 22:21:58 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <199810190638.PAA02939@mailx.dacom.co.kr> from "JongMoon" at Oct 19, 98 03:38:30 pm X-Location: london.england.earth.mulky-way.universe X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 1228 Lines: 29 JongMoon writes: > I want to install gcc on arm linux. > Dmaking cross-compiler. > So I done > # ./configure --target=arm-unknown-linuxaout --host=i586-pc-linux > # make > but happend error > runtime.h:31: stdio.h: file not found > runtime.h:32:ctype.h[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[C ctype.h: file not found > In file included from runtime.h:38, > from hash.c:32: > ../objc/objc-api.h:32: stdio.h: file not found > make[1]: *** [hash.o] Error 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory '/root/gcc-arm/gcc-2.7.2.2./objc' > make: ***[libobjc.a] Error 2 > > I down't know this error I've forwarded this to the mailing list - you'll probably get an answer off there. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King rmk@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/aboutme.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Oct 20 06:48:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA887323 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 06:48:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id GAA20563 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 06:48:15 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma020561; Tue, 20 Oct 98 06:48:02 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:16748 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <3495-6828>; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 07:47:47 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <156317-27811>; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 16:25:25 -0400 Received: from lrcsun15.epfl.ch ([128.178.156.77]:50733 "EHLO lrcsun15.epfl.ch" ident: "almesber") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <160028-27811>; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 14:59:43 -0400 Received: (from almesber@localhost) by lrcsun15.epfl.ch (8.8.X/EPFL-8.1a) id DAA07579 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 03:26:58 +0200 (MET DST) From: Werner Almesberger Message-Id: <199810200126.DAA07579@lrcsun15.epfl.ch> Subject: Re: The Joys of Linux To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 03:26:57 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1677 Lines: 33 [ Oops, Cc to the list was wrong in the 1st try ... ] Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote: > About the only thing that I can think of doing to make ADFS writable under > Linux is to ensure that when you have an inode in use which belongs to a > directory to *lock the directory against any changes* until all inodes in > that directory /and/ their cached versions have been unused/flushed. Hmm, if I got that right, why can't you write-through cache the per-directory inode associations in memory until the directory is released ? That way, you only run into problems when the directory runs out of potential inodes or when pages get re-assigned to different directories. The former can be partially solved by occasionally trying to reclaim old "virtual" inode numbers, the latter by either locking directories in place until all references are gone or by maintaining a list of all "open" directories and checking against it before growing directories. If your FS structure allows to grow directories without filling them with content, you can also simply growe the directory to avoid running out of virtual inodes. Maximum physical size = real entries + deleted but still open entries. Not very nice and potentially wasteful in terms of memory (although for non-pathological usage patterns, it's probably quite okay), but probably better than read-only. - Werner -- _________________________________________________________________________ / Werner Almesberger, DI-ICA,EPFL,CH werner.almesberger@lrc.di.epfl.ch / /_IN_R_131__Tel_+41_21_693_6621__Fax_+41_21_693_6610_____________________/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Oct 20 10:16:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA920474 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:16:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA21033 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:16:16 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma021031; Tue, 20 Oct 98 10:16:08 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:4713 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <3804-16753>; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:13:01 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <156163-27811>; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 20:48:34 -0400 Received: from [207.67.245.34] ([207.67.245.34]:26636 "EHLO ns1.netopolis.net" ident: "root") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154818-27811>; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 19:57:37 -0400 Received: from netopolis.net (blake@dt0b1n88.san.rr.com [204.210.51.136]) by ns1.netopolis.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA28843 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 23:24:15 -0700 Message-ID: <362C2E0A.70DCB082@netopolis.net> Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 06:30:34 +0000 From: Blake Binkley Organization: Netopolis, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.35 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ARM Linux Subject: SDT loadable ARM-Linux... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 575 Lines: 17 I wish to attempt to put Arm-linux on my brutus board, I have the ARM SDT (Debugger/project manager, complete version) I have the latest Angel DEMON 1.02 is there a location where I can get the source and project file so that I can load it through the Project Manager and see what I can do with it, I have written a few drivers (Touchscreen, Dual Panel LCD, IRDA, Serial) I think I have enough info to make a GPM-like system for the touchscreen... thanks for any help in advance. Blake Binkley unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Oct 20 12:38:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA900996 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 12:38:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA21469 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 12:38:18 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma021467; Tue, 20 Oct 98 12:38:15 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:61495 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <3691-16753>; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:36:59 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <156517-27811>; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 23:05:59 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:6318 "EHLO globe.nexus.co.uk" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <157687-27811>; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 22:00:52 -0400 Received: from [192.0.0.21] (helo=fountain.nexus.co.uk ident=mail) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 0zVX82-0008SH-00; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 09:26:54 +0100 Received: from fountain.nexus.co.uk ([127.0.0.1] ident=pb) by fountain.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #1) id 0zVX82-0007xw-00; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 09:26:54 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) To: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: The Joys of Linux In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 19 Oct 1998 22:00:16 BST." <199810192100.WAA00655@raistlin.armlinux.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 09:26:53 +0200 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 719 Lines: 16 >The current system of inode allocation only works *because it is read-only*. >If someone can think up a way of allocating inode numbers to a totally >dynamic filesystem without any concept of inodes, I'd be happy to hear them. Inode numbers don't have to mean anything at all, you can just make them up out of thin air. I think the dcache makes this even easier because you can always have a dentry in your hand for anything that has an inode attached. The SMB code does precisely this. Look at linux/fs/smbfs/ inode.c:smb_invent_inos(). I imagine ADFS could be made to work with some similar scheme. I'll think about it later. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Oct 20 13:45:19 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA941995 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:45:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA21627 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:45:18 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma021625; Tue, 20 Oct 98 13:45:14 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:26941 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <3619-16753>; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:44:23 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <155071-27811>; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 00:17:47 -0400 Received: from mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com ([157.161.173.16]:12593 "EHLO mail.core.genedata.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <157141-27811>; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 23:21:28 -0400 Received: from relay.ch.genedata.com (pinatubo-e0.ch.genedata.com [157.161.173.32]) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA21322; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:54:43 +0200 Received: from mencheca.ch.genedata.com (root@mencheca.ch.genedata.com [157.161.173.82]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA897902; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:54:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: by genedata.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.101) for SERIJAVA@chollian.net; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:54:50 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <19981020115450.A11549@genedata.com> Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:54:50 +0200 From: Matthew Wilcox To: JongMoon Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: gcc for arm linux References: <199810190638.PAA02939@mailx.dacom.co.kr> <199810192121.WAA00746@raistlin.armlinux.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.2 In-Reply-To: <199810192121.WAA00746@raistlin.armlinux.org>; from Russell King on Mon, Oct 19, 1998 at 10:21:58PM +0100 X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1283 Lines: 32 On Mon, Oct 19, 1998 at 10:21:58PM +0100, Russell King wrote: > JongMoon writes: > > I want to install gcc on arm linux. > > Dmaking cross-compiler. > > So I done > > # ./configure --target=arm-unknown-linuxaout --host=i586-pc-linux > > # make > > but happend error > > runtime.h:31: stdio.h: file not found > > runtime.h:32:ctype.h[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[C ctype.h: file not found > > In file included from runtime.h:38, > > from hash.c:32: > > ../objc/objc-api.h:32: stdio.h: file not found > > make[1]: *** [hash.o] Error 1 > > make[1]: Leaving directory '/root/gcc-arm/gcc-2.7.2.2./objc' > > make: ***[libobjc.a] Error 2 > > > > I down't know this error You're trying to build the Objective C compiler which won't work. You should type `make LANGUAGES=C', as described in the installation documents in the section `Building a cross-compiler'. EGCS 1.1b seems to understand about being a crosscompiler much better than GCC 2.7.2.2. -- Matthew Wilcox "I decry the current tendency to seek patents on algorithms. There are better ways to earn a living than to prevent other people from making use of one's contributions to computer science." -- Donald E. Knuth, TAoCP vol 3 unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Oct 20 14:51:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA834878 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:51:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA25128 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:51:49 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma025089; Tue, 20 Oct 98 14:51:24 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:26941 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <3972-6828>; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 15:50:15 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154548-27811>; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 01:41:23 -0400 Received: from mraos.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.48.8]:54719 "EHLO mraos.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <156370-27811>; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 00:59:14 -0400 Received: from mraoss ([131.111.48.95] helo=mraoss.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk) by mraos.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 0zVa20-0006fl-00 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 12:32:52 +0100 Received: from localhost (tjwh1@localhost) by mraoss.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA01765 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 12:32:52 +0100 (BST) X-Authentication-Warning: mraoss.ra.phy.cam.ac.uk: tjwh1 owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 12:32:51 +0100 (BST) From: Toby Haynes X-Sender: tjwh1@mraoss To: ARM Linux Subject: Can't get text entry... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1490 Lines: 31 In programs like xpaint, xfig and freeciv (most critically!), writable text icons don't work. Specifically, if I say load up xfig and click on Zoom at the bottom, it produces a sub window with a '1' in it, plus OK and cancel boxes (or something like that!). Normally I would click on this, delete the 1 and put in a new zoom scale, but this doesn't work on my RiscPC SA110 ARM Linux 2.0.34 system. It was installed from a set of rpms slurped off the ARM linux distribution sometime in June or thereabouts by droppping all the rpms onto hda3 (my linux partition) and using the installer normally. I should stress that these writable icons have never worked. I do note that it is possible to paste from the mouse into these icons, but they never pick up keyboard entry. Additionally, I note that the windows are not getting the 'focus' from FVWM - I use focus-follows-cursor mode, and the windows are not highlighted as I would expect. My suspicions lie with libXaw, but I'd like to have someone tell me that this is the case before I reach for my SRPM collection and start recompiling from the redhat 5.0 distribution. Or should I try a different window manager? Thanks, Toby _______________________________________________________________________ Toby Haynes | "Alarm clock? Oh, you mean the sad pile of Rm 965, MRAO | cogs and twisted springs under that dent Uni. of Cambridge | in the wall?" unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Oct 20 15:35:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA919846 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 15:35:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA25778 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 15:35:19 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma025776; Tue, 20 Oct 98 15:35:14 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:26941 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11138-16753>; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 16:32:27 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <156452-27811>; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 02:14:01 -0400 Received: from post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.27]:49026 "EHLO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <157530-27811>; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 01:58:14 -0400 Received: from [158.152.208.192] (helo=causality.com) by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.05demon1 #1) id 0zVaxF-0002hA-00; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 12:32:02 +0000 Message-ID: <362C7A0E.25CA773F@causality.com> Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 12:54:54 +0100 From: "Neil A. Carson" Organization: Causality Limited X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin CC: Simon Glass / Linux , linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: The Joys of Linux References: <199810192100.WAA00655@raistlin.armlinux.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1152 Lines: 27 Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote: > In read-only ADFS, I do the same thing - an inode number of a file consists of > the parent (directory) object id and it's location within the object. This > works because the directory entries are static when the filesystem is readonly. > About the only thing that I can think of doing to make ADFS writable under > Linux is to ensure that when you have an inode in use which belongs to a > directory to *lock the directory against any changes* until all inodes in > that directory /and/ their cached versions have been unused/flushed. This > means that if you have a file in use, you can't delete or rename anything > in the directory, and I think that this is far too restrictive to warrant > implementation. Okay, so if the naame of the file is the only thing that's constant... Can you basically use a hash table to convert between file name (including path without leading /) and i-node number? Or given the FS lasyersis this impossible to do? Or maybe a combination of object ID and hashed name? Neil -- Neil A. Carson unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Oct 20 18:01:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA938780 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:01:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA26378 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:01:51 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma026376; Tue, 20 Oct 98 18:01:38 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:14393 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2542-6828>; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:59:12 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154157-27811>; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 04:16:21 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:12549 "EHLO globe.nexus.co.uk" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <157147-27811>; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 03:22:57 -0400 Received: from [192.0.0.21] (helo=fountain.nexus.co.uk ident=mail) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 0zVcAb-0000PV-00; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:49:53 +0100 Received: from fountain.nexus.co.uk ([127.0.0.1] ident=pb) by fountain.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #1) id 0zVcAZ-0006cJ-00; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:49:51 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) To: Russell King cc: linux@arm.uk.linux.org, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: The Joys of Linux In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:55:27 BST." <199810201255.NAA08816@florence.sw.milldev.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:49:48 +0200 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 969 Lines: 22 Russell King wrote: >My point is that there is no fixed why to generate an inode number for a file >that you can guarantee will always refer to the file during that files >lifetime. Yes, I'm aware of that - *my* point was that it doesn't matter because there's actually no need to be able to do this. All you need to do is invent an inode number, completely arbitrarily, when the VFS asks you for one. The dcache will keep track of the binding between this and the filename for as long as it matters. The "lifetime" of a file is a somewhat nebulous concept and as far as I know there is nothing that says that inode numbers have to be valid once you've let go of all references to the file. If you've closed everything and the dcache entry has been pruned then next time you open the file you will just get a new, equally arbitrary, inode number which will do just as well. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Oct 20 16:04:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA956450 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 16:04:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA25971 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 16:04:49 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xmaa25963; Tue, 20 Oct 98 16:04:46 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:17273 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10287-16753>; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 17:03:35 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <155154-27811>; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 02:56:54 -0400 Received: from post-12.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.41]:51483 "EHLO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <156966-27811>; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 02:20:32 -0400 Received: from [193.237.23.100] (helo=gate.sw.milldev.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.05demon1 #1) id 0zVbIe-0002rB-00; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 12:54:16 +0000 Received: from florence.sw.milldev.co.uk (florence.sw.milldev.co.uk [192.168.0.6]) by gate.sw.milldev.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA02505; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:55:28 +0100 From: Russell King Received: (from rmk@localhost) by florence.sw.milldev.co.uk (8.8.5/8.7.3) id NAA08816; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:55:27 +0100 Message-Id: <199810201255.NAA08816@florence.sw.milldev.co.uk> Subject: Re: The Joys of Linux To: pb@nexus.co.uk (Philip Blundell) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:55:27 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux@arm.uk.linux.org, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Philip Blundell" at Oct 20, 98 09:26:53 am Content-Type: text X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1046 Lines: 24 Philip Blundell said: > >The current system of inode allocation only works *because it is read-only*. > >If someone can think up a way of allocating inode numbers to a totally > >dynamic filesystem without any concept of inodes, I'd be happy to hear them. > > Inode numbers don't have to mean anything at all, you can just make them up > out of thin air. I think the dcache makes this even easier because you can > always have a dentry in your hand for anything that has an inode attached. > > The SMB code does precisely this. Look at linux/fs/smbfs/ > inode.c:smb_invent_inos(). I imagine ADFS could be made to work with some > similar scheme. I'll think about it later. My point is that there is no fixed why to generate an inode number for a file that you can guarantee will always refer to the file during that files lifetime. It seems to me that most people aren't reading exactly what I'm saying about this. -- Russell King (rmk@milldev.demon.co.uk) unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Oct 20 16:16:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA768036 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 16:16:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA26016 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 16:16:49 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma026014; Tue, 20 Oct 98 16:16:36 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:17273 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11197-16753>; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 17:12:26 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <156429-27811>; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 02:57:23 -0400 Received: from mail.cs.up.ac.za ([137.215.18.70]:2192 "EHLO mail.cs.up.ac.za" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <157333-27811>; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 02:42:52 -0400 Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.cs.up.ac.za (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA22988; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 15:16:34 +0200 Received: from asst2.cs.up.ac.za(137.215.166.56), claiming to be "asst.cs.up.ac.za" via SMTP by mail.cs.up.ac.za, id smtpda22983; Tue Oct 20 15:16:17 1998 Message-ID: <001001bdfc2c$04c01660$38a6d789@asst.cs.up.ac.za> From: "Samuel Kock" To: "ARM Linux" , "Toby Haynes" Subject: Re: Can't get text entry... Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 15:17:31 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 519 Lines: 17 >In programs like xpaint, xfig and freeciv (most critically!), writable >text icons don't work. Specifically, if I say load up xfig and click on No need to recompile, Chris Sawer has a fix for this. Just put the following line in your .Xdefaults file: *input: true Put it just after the first 3 or so lines of the file, then everything will work fine. There are more tips on his Web page, forgot the address, though. Regards Samuel Kock unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Oct 20 17:21:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA955219 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 17:21:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA26229 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 17:21:50 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma026227; Tue, 20 Oct 98 17:21:14 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:14393 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10532-6828>; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:17:23 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154361-27811>; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 03:56:54 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1494 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <157363-27811>; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 03:09:11 -0400 Received: (from alan@localhost) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) id OAA26486; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:43:00 +0100 From: Alan Cox Message-Id: <199810201343.OAA26486@snowcrash.cymru.net> Subject: Re: The Joys of Linux To: neil@causality.com (Neil A. Carson) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:42:55 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux@arm.uk.linux.org, linux@bluewaternz.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <362C7A0E.25CA773F@causality.com> from "Neil A. Carson" at Oct 20, 98 12:54:54 pm Content-Type: text X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 487 Lines: 12 > Okay, so if the naame of the file is the only thing that's constant... > Can you basically use a hash table to convert between file name > (including path without leading /) and i-node number? Or given the FS > lasyersis this impossible to do? > > Or maybe a combination of object ID and hashed name? All overkill, just number them 1 2 3 4 as you open them and don't reuse numbers already still open. Alan unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Oct 20 21:03:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA988954 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 21:03:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA27018 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 21:03:51 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xmaa27014; Tue, 20 Oct 98 21:03:28 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:22650 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <3053-16753>; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 22:01:18 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <157434-27811>; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 07:23:42 -0400 Received: from post-12.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.41]:45584 "EHLO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <157474-27811>; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 06:16:23 -0400 Received: from [158.152.208.192] (helo=causality.com) by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.05demon1 #1) id 0zVezf-0001ee-00; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 16:50:47 +0000 Message-ID: <362C9AD5.BE9888C7@causality.com> Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 15:14:45 +0100 From: "Neil A. Carson" Organization: Causality Limited X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Russell King CC: Philip Blundell , linux@arm.uk.linux.org, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: The Joys of Linux References: <199810201255.NAA08816@florence.sw.milldev.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 448 Lines: 15 Russell King wrote: > My point is that there is no fixed why to generate an inode number for a file > that you can guarantee will always refer to the file during that files lifetime. > > It seems to me that most people aren't reading exactly what I'm saying about > this. Yeah, obviously my name thing was crap because you might rename the file :-) -- Neil A. Carson unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Oct 20 17:41:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA51731 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 17:41:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id RAA26287 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 17:41:21 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma026285; Tue, 20 Oct 98 17:40:59 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:14393 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10782-16753>; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:38:18 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <157690-27811>; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 04:42:05 -0400 Received: from relay1.UU.NET ([192.48.96.5]:2706 "EHLO relay1.UU.NET" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <156676-27811>; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 03:56:48 -0400 Received: from xedia.com by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: madway.xedia.com [198.202.232.199]) id QQflxq11696; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:30:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tonga.xedia.com by xedia.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA29505; Tue, 20 Oct 98 10:29:13 EDT Received: by tonga.xedia.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA29411; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:30:44 -0400 Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:30:44 -0400 Message-Id: <199810201430.KAA29411@tonga.xedia.com> From: Paul Koning Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: neil@causality.com Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: The Joys of Linux References: <199810192100.WAA00655@raistlin.armlinux.org> <362C7A0E.25CA773F@causality.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 20.3 "Vatican City" XEmacs Lucid X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 655 Lines: 15 >>>>> "Neil" == Neil A Carson writes: > Okay, so if the naame of the file is the only thing that's > constant... Can you basically use a hash table to convert > between file name (including path without leading /) and i-node > number? Or given the FS lasyersis this impossible to do? > Or maybe a combination of object ID and hashed name? Inode numbers are 32 bits, right? So by the birtday paradox, you'd have about a 50% chance of a hash collision when you have 64k files. That assumes a top quality hash (say, MD5); many hashes would do worse. paul unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Oct 20 21:03:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA478650 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 21:03:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA27017 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 21:03:51 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma027014; Tue, 20 Oct 98 21:03:26 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:22650 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <3532-6828>; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 21:59:57 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <157306-27811>; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 07:01:24 -0400 Received: from chaos.oregan.net ([195.173.86.1]:28271 "EHLO chaos.oregan.net" ident: "root") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <157390-27811>; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 06:10:52 -0400 Received: from tiddles.oregan (oregan-cambridge.demon.co.uk [212.228.27.73]) by chaos.oregan.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA05128; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 17:45:09 +0100 Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 17:22:53 +0100 From: Phil Norman To: pkoning@xedia.com Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: The Joys of Linux Message-ID: <8fa0119848%phil@tiddles.oregan.net> In-Reply-To: <199810201430.KAA29411@tonga.xedia.com> X-Organization: Xania X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40d for RISC OS X-Editor: Zap, using ZapEmail =?ISO-8859-1?Q?0.21=DF?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60m X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 2035 Lines: 53 In message <199810201430.KAA29411@tonga.xedia.com> Paul Koning wrote: > >>>>> "Neil" == Neil A Carson writes: > > > Okay, so if the naame of the file is the only thing that's > > constant... Can you basically use a hash table to convert > > between file name (including path without leading /) and i-node > > number? Or given the FS lasyersis this impossible to do? > > > Or maybe a combination of object ID and hashed name? > > Inode numbers are 32 bits, right? So by the birtday paradox, you'd > have about a 50% chance of a hash collision when you have 64k files. > That assumes a top quality hash (say, MD5); many hashes would do worse. Note quite 50%. Working on the following algorithm and applying some probability... --- space = 65536*65536 start% = 1 end% = 65536 prob = 100 FOR c%=start% TO end% prob = prob * ((space - c%) / space) NEXT PRINT "Final probability is "+STR$(100-prob) --- space is the possible number of hash values possible in 32 bits; start% and end% are the (integer) counter bounds for the hash values we're summing over; c% is the counter; prob is the probability (in %). This comes out with a value of 39.35%, which is somewhat different from 50% and is the /real/ probability of any two of the 65536 currently-used hash values out of the 1<<32 hash space being the same. This is assuming you have a perfect hashing algorithm. However, this doesn't negate your point that this isn't the ideal way to do it. Personally, I'd go with the 'start at zero and count your way up' approach. However, personally I don't see the point in writing a read/write filecore fs, since it's going to be a pain to do (the filecore format is really quite interesting), and there isn't really enough call for it. Personally, I'd rather use the two read-only filesystems on each architecture rather than using dodgy developmental read/write filing systems ;-). Phil --pedantic unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Oct 20 20:55:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA936658 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 20:55:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA26963 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 20:55:51 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma026961; Tue, 20 Oct 98 20:55:20 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:22650 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <3862-16753>; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 21:51:01 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <157644-27811>; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 06:47:26 -0400 Received: from mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com ([157.161.173.16]:14395 "EHLO mail.core.genedata.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <157693-27811>; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 06:02:51 -0400 Received: from relay.ch.genedata.com (pinatubo-e0.ch.genedata.com [157.161.173.32]) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA26478; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:37:05 +0200 Received: from mencheca.ch.genedata.com (root@mencheca.ch.genedata.com [157.161.173.82]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA988315; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:37:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: by genedata.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.101) for linux@arm.uk.linux.org; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:37:14 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <19981020183714.D11549@genedata.com> Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:37:14 +0200 From: Matthew Wilcox To: Philip Blundell , Russell King Cc: linux@arm.uk.linux.org, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: The Joys of Linux References: <199810201255.NAA08816@florence.sw.milldev.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.2 In-Reply-To: ; from Philip Blundell on Tue, Oct 20, 1998 at 02:49:48PM +0200 X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1161 Lines: 23 On Tue, Oct 20, 1998 at 02:49:48PM +0200, Philip Blundell wrote: > Russell King wrote: > > >My point is that there is no fixed why to generate an inode number for a file > >that you can guarantee will always refer to the file during that files > >lifetime. > > The "lifetime" of a file is a somewhat nebulous concept and as far as I know > there is nothing that says that inode numbers have to be valid once you've let > go of all references to the file. If you've closed everything and the dcache > entry has been pruned then next time you open the file you will just get a > new, equally arbitrary, inode number which will do just as well. Except for NFS. But surely no one is planning on serving their RISC OS filesystem by NFS are they?! You're not able to export your SMB filesystem by NFS for similar reasons. -- Matthew Wilcox "I decry the current tendency to seek patents on algorithms. There are better ways to earn a living than to prevent other people from making use of one's contributions to computer science." -- Donald E. Knuth, TAoCP vol 3 unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From philb@gnu.org Tue Oct 20 19:23:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA892066 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 19:23:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA26577 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 19:23:21 +0200 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk(158.152.220.239) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma026575; Tue, 20 Oct 98 19:22:58 +0200 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0zVfKU-0007q4-00; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:12:18 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Matthew Wilcox cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: The Joys of Linux In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:37:14 +0200." <19981020183714.D11549@genedata.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:12:18 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: Status: RO Content-Length: 286 Lines: 9 >Except for NFS. But surely no one is planning on serving their RISC >OS filesystem by NFS are they?! You're not able to export your SMB >filesystem by NFS for similar reasons. Can't unfsd cope with this? I thought it manufactured its own inodes as well but I could be wrong. p. From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Oct 21 00:51:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA992846 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 00:51:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA27644 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 00:51:51 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma027642; Wed, 21 Oct 98 00:51:40 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:4187 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2131-17301>; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 01:51:28 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <157515-10627>; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 07:28:56 -0400 Received: from mail.thefree.net ([195.34.192.14]:2517 "EHLO mail.thefree.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <160184-27811>; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 07:11:24 -0400 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Tue, 20 Oct 1998 17:45:58 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from loopback [195.34.197.212] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Tue, 20 Oct 1998 17:45:49 0000 Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:44:05 +0100 From: Chris Sawer To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Can't get text entry... Message-ID: <76f199848%root@usa.net> In-Reply-To: <001001bdfc2c$04c01660$38a6d789@asst.cs.up.ac.za> Reply-To: chris.sawer@usa.net X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40d for RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60m X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 655 Lines: 19 In message <001001bdfc2c$04c01660$38a6d789@asst.cs.up.ac.za> "Samuel Kock" wrote: > There are more tips on his Web page, forgot the address, though. http://members.xoom.com/chrissawer/armlinux.html In addition to the hints and tips, there are also a growing number of binaries for ArmLinux on the site. Chris -- Chris Sawer - Worthing, Sussex, England ICQ: 15010147 E-Mail: chris.sawer@usa.net PGP public key available on request http://members.xoom.com/chrissawer/ <-- ArmLinux Binaries, Hints and Tips unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Oct 21 02:39:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA960630 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 02:39:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id CAA27879 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 02:39:51 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma027877; Wed, 21 Oct 98 02:39:48 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:20603 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2458-17301>; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 03:36:57 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <160358-10627>; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 09:12:29 -0400 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1121 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <157184-27811>; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 08:07:56 -0400 Received: (from alan@localhost) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) id TAA32624; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 19:42:16 +0100 From: Alan Cox Message-Id: <199810201842.TAA32624@snowcrash.cymru.net> Subject: Re: The Joys of Linux To: rmk@milldev.demon.co.uk (Russell King) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 19:42:13 +0100 (BST) Cc: pb@nexus.co.uk, linux@arm.uk.linux.org, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <199810201255.NAA08816@florence.sw.milldev.co.uk> from "Russell King" at Oct 20, 98 01:55:27 pm Content-Type: text X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 268 Lines: 5 > My point is that there is no fixed why to generate an inode number for a file > that you can guarantee will always refer to the file during that files lifetime. My point is you dont need it unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Oct 21 04:35:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA943998 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 04:35:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id EAA28076 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 04:35:51 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma028074; Wed, 21 Oct 98 04:35:46 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:4928 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <3252-21005>; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 05:35:32 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <168632-10627>; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:50:20 -0400 Received: from mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com ([157.161.173.16]:16889 "EHLO mail.core.genedata.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <157560-10627>; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 08:56:06 -0400 Received: from relay.ch.genedata.com (pinatubo-e0.ch.genedata.com [157.161.173.32]) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA27100; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 21:30:38 +0200 Received: from mencheca.ch.genedata.com (root@mencheca.ch.genedata.com [157.161.173.82]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA990671; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 21:30:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: by genedata.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.101) for phil@oregan.net; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 21:30:48 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <19981020213048.F11549@genedata.com> Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 21:30:48 +0200 From: Matthew Wilcox To: Phil Norman , pkoning@xedia.com Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: The Joys of Linux References: <199810201430.KAA29411@tonga.xedia.com> <8fa0119848%phil@tiddles.oregan.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.2 In-Reply-To: <8fa0119848%phil@tiddles.oregan.net>; from Phil Norman on Tue, Oct 20, 1998 at 05:22:53PM +0100 X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1218 Lines: 24 On Tue, Oct 20, 1998 at 05:22:53PM +0100, Phil Norman wrote: > In message <199810201430.KAA29411@tonga.xedia.com> > Paul Koning wrote: > > Inode numbers are 32 bits, right? So by the birtday paradox, you'd > > have about a 50% chance of a hash collision when you have 64k files. > > That assumes a top quality hash (say, MD5); many hashes would do worse. > > Note quite 50%. Working on the following algorithm and applying some > probability... [brutal snippage] > This comes out with a value of 39.35%, which is somewhat different from 50% > and is the /real/ probability of any two of the 65536 currently-used hash > values out of the 1<<32 hash space being the same. This is assuming you have > a perfect hashing algorithm. This is interesting. That's the standard quoted approximation to the birthday paradox. I never knew it was so far out. -- Matthew Wilcox "I decry the current tendency to seek patents on algorithms. There are better ways to earn a living than to prevent other people from making use of one's contributions to computer science." -- Donald E. Knuth, TAoCP vol 3 unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Oct 22 02:41:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA1037850 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 02:41:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id CAA31921 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 02:41:53 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma031919; Thu, 22 Oct 98 02:41:38 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:8305 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10754-14677> convert rfc822-to-quoted-printable; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 03:41:23 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <160145-26601>; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 13:15:43 -0400 Received: from ba1.augsburg.baynet.de ([194.95.202.130]:6798 "EHLO ba1.augsburg.baynet.de" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <160437-26601> convert rfc822-to-8bit; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 11:31:17 -0400 Received: from ba471101 (dial004.augsburg.baynet.de [194.95.202.164]) by ba1.augsburg.baynet.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA19086 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 00:10:31 +0200 Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 00:56:47 +0200 From: Richard Atterer To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: The Joys of Linux Message-ID: <489835B09D%atterer@informatik.tu-muenchen.de> In-Reply-To: <199810192100.WAA00655@raistlin.armlinux.org> Reply-To: atterer@augsburg.baynet.de MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by relay.ch.genedata.com id CAA1037850 Status: RO Content-Length: 920 Lines: 24 In article <199810192100.WAA00655@raistlin.armlinux.org> Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote: > The current system of inode allocation only works *because it is > read-only*. If someone can think up a way of allocating inode numbers > to a totally dynamic filesystem without any concept of inodes, I'd be > happy to hear them. For each directory, store a unique number in the objects' directory entries - somewhere in the upper 24 bits of the object attributes. This means you have to write to the ADFS partition even if there are just read accesses, but what can you do... I doubt altering those bits would break many RiscOS programs (does FilerPro make use of them?). Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | \/Ż| http://home.augsburg.baynet.de/richard.atterer/ raFS V1.14 Ż ´` Ż unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From alan@snowcrash.cymru.net Wed Oct 21 01:48:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA978830 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 01:48:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id BAA27782 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 01:48:51 +0200 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net(163.164.160.3) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma027780; Wed, 21 Oct 98 01:48:42 +0200 Received: (from alan@localhost) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) id AAA04569; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 00:48:36 +0100 From: Alan Cox Message-Id: <199810202348.AAA04569@snowcrash.cymru.net> Subject: Re: The Joys of Linux To: philb@gnu.org (Philip Blundell) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 00:48:33 +0100 (BST) Cc: Matthew.Wilcox@genedata.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Philip Blundell" at Oct 20, 98 06:12:18 pm Content-Type: text Status: RO Content-Length: 144 Lines: 4 > Can't unfsd cope with this? I thought it manufactured its own inodes as well > but I could be wrong. UNFSD can sort of but dont rely on it From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Oct 21 19:09:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA1016406 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 19:09:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA30726 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 19:09:21 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma030724; Wed, 21 Oct 98 19:08:51 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:40768 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10908-21005>; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 20:05:25 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <155360-26601>; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 05:11:06 -0400 Received: from jeffray.demon.co.uk ([193.237.58.117]:1114 "EHLO jeffray.demon.co.uk" ident: "ian") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <156813-26601>; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 04:03:32 -0400 Received: from localhost (ian@localhost) by jeffray.demon.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA00953 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 15:39:27 +0100 Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 15:39:27 +0100 (BST) From: Ian Jeffray Reply-To: ian@jeffray.demon.co.uk To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Acorn SCSI woes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 800 Lines: 19 I'm still having no joy with my Acorn SCSI card (rev 2). fdisk appears to have worked ok and created a couple of partitions for me (sda1/sda2), however, mke2fs bombs out with an address exception error, then abotu 10 seconds later I get a lot of spam about "SCSI host 229 not responding" and "Aiee, removing interrupt handler" etc. Clearly something is wrong if it thinks there's a host 229 (it should be '7' of course). I'm running on an 8MB A540, with the very latest kernel 2.0.35 READING from a scsi disc seems to be ok (I can read my 'initrd' via loopback from the scsi drive, and the scsi cdrom works just fine...) Help! Please? Ian -- Ian Jeffray // Tel: 0131 337 9923 // Mobile: 0378 392 963 // ian@eh.org unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Oct 22 00:39:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA1031586 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 00:39:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id AAA31628 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 00:39:53 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma031626; Thu, 22 Oct 98 00:39:47 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:6712 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10757-14677>; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 01:37:53 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <156328-26601>; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 10:13:00 -0400 Received: from post-10.mail.nl.demon.net ([194.159.73.20]:60410 "EHLO post.mail.nl.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <160321-26601>; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 08:46:16 -0400 Received: from [195.173.230.103] (helo=dott) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.02 #1) id 0zW3sm-0001bW-00 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 19:25:21 +0000 Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 21:20:09 +0200 From: postmaster@dott.demon.nl To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: How to install Linux from CD Message-ID: <6b1a59848%postmaster@dott.demon.nl> X-Organization: None X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40d for RISC OS X-Editor: Zap, using ZapEmail =?ISO-8859-1?Q?0.21=DF?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60m X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 1022 Lines: 18 When I have partitioned my HD with PartMan and I startup the kernel, I get the Redhat Linux installation screen. How to install all necessary parts if I own the "Red Hat Linux/Intel 4.1 Vanderbilt" CD? Because when I follow the on screen instructions and choose option to install from CD, the screen is flipping and I get rebooting. TIA -- _ _ ___ ___ |_)irk |_) | | |\ | |_)ollema |ilburg |he | \|etherlands ======================================================================== =\ dbollema@dds.nl - dbollema@dott.demon.nl - ICQ 15487376 /= ==\ Homepage http://www.dott.demon.nl/ /== ===\ Acorn RiscPC, StrongARM @202MHz - Intel Outside /=== ======================================================================== ... Complaints? Write them here legibly [] <- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Oct 22 02:57:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA1012710 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 02:57:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id CAA31949 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 02:57:23 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma031947; Thu, 22 Oct 98 02:56:59 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:52288 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10739-14677>; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 03:56:12 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <155607-26601>; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 13:20:05 -0400 Received: from mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com ([157.161.173.16]:22325 "EHLO mail.core.genedata.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <161007-26601>; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 12:14:16 -0400 Received: from relay.ch.genedata.com (pinatubo-e0.ch.genedata.com [157.161.173.32]) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA31661; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 00:53:41 +0200 Received: from mencheca.ch.genedata.com (root@mencheca.ch.genedata.com [157.161.173.82]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA1047473; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 00:53:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: by genedata.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.101) for postmaster@dott.demon.nl; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 00:53:58 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <19981022005358.K11549@genedata.com> Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 00:53:58 +0200 From: Matthew Wilcox To: postmaster@dott.demon.nl, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: How to install Linux from CD References: <6b1a59848%postmaster@dott.demon.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.2 In-Reply-To: <6b1a59848%postmaster@dott.demon.nl>; from postmaster@dott.demon.nl on Wed, Oct 21, 1998 at 09:20:09PM +0200 X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 813 Lines: 15 On Wed, Oct 21, 1998 at 09:20:09PM +0200, postmaster@dott.demon.nl wrote: > When I have partitioned my HD with PartMan and I startup the kernel, I get > the Redhat Linux installation screen. > How to install all necessary parts if I own the "Red Hat Linux/Intel 4.1 > Vanderbilt" CD? Because when I follow the on screen instructions and choose > option to install from CD, the screen is flipping and I get rebooting. You cannot install an Intel distribution on an ARM machine. -- Matthew Wilcox "I decry the current tendency to seek patents on algorithms. There are better ways to earn a living than to prevent other people from making use of one's contributions to computer science." -- Donald E. Knuth, TAoCP vol 3 unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Oct 22 21:18:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA1173972 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 21:18:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA02289 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 21:18:24 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma002287; Thu, 22 Oct 98 21:18:22 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:14187 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2704-14677>; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:17:42 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154367-26720>; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 08:28:05 -0400 Received: from post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.27]:45957 "EHLO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154380-26720>; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 08:11:14 -0400 Received: from [158.152.208.192] (helo=causality.com) by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.05demon1 #1) id 0zWPsm-0001dz-00 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 18:54:51 +0000 Message-ID: <362F57D5.769C8FDB@causality.com> Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 17:05:41 +0100 From: "Neil A. Carson" Organization: Causality Limited X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Beer and linux/arm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 471 Lines: 19 Greetings, It's my last week in England next week, I frequently meet up with a bunch of NetBSD-arm32ers in Oxford for a pint to discuss ARM, Acorn and everything else, and would be pleased if any Linux-arm users in the area --- if there are any --- could come along too. The venue is a pub (probably the Turf) on Tuesday evening next week. Let me know... Cheers, Neil -- Neil A. Carson unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Oct 22 20:16:25 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA1091125 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 20:16:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA02170 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 20:16:24 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma002168; Thu, 22 Oct 98 20:16:03 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:22560 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10976-27203>; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 21:12:22 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154707-26720>; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 07:12:46 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:2640 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <153989-26720>; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 07:01:49 -0400 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0zWOnF-0001Hx-00; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 18:45:01 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: ian@jeffray.demon.co.uk cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Archimedes memory mapping question In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 18 Oct 1998 11:51:58 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 18:45:01 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 217 Lines: 10 >Taken mostly from p4-9 of the Acorn Risc Machine Family Data Manual. > >Hope that helps. Yup. Thanks to everybody who responded. :-) p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Oct 24 01:53:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA1344773 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 01:53:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id BAA05851 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 01:53:25 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma005847; Sat, 24 Oct 98 01:53:05 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:13650 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10751-8592>; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 02:51:18 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <153959-4806>; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:58:45 -0400 Received: from post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.27]:49296 "EHLO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154649-4806>; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:41:53 -0400 Received: from [193.237.181.70] (helo=cesltd.demon.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.05demon1 #1) id 0zWqeX-0002am-00 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 23:29:54 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 00:28:34 +0100 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu From: Kevin Church Reply-To: Kevin Church Subject: Install Problems MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Trial Version 3.04 X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 472 Lines: 13 Hi, I am trying to install armlinux on a RiscPC700 SA-110 with 600mb partition and 32meg RAM. I try and go though the install butit says 'Segmentation fault' and the occasional 'Core Dump' After this either the install stops or it crahes and I am left with no Linux :( Anyway I was wondering in anybody could help me please e-mail : kevin@cesltd.demon.co.uk -- Kevin Church unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From philb@gnu.org Sat Oct 24 19:22:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA1424565 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 19:22:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA08112 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 19:22:25 +0200 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk(158.152.220.239) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma008105; Sat, 24 Oct 98 19:21:56 +0200 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0zX78A-00009k-00; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 18:05:34 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: rmk@arm.uk.linux.org, Matthew.Wilcox@genedata.com Subject: egcs patches Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 18:05:34 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: Status: RO X-Status: A Content-Length: 667 Lines: 15 I sent the first half of the patches for arm-linux support to the egcs people. Richard Earnshaw just mailed me to say that he thought you two had contributed to them but you don't have copyright assignments on file at the FSF. Although I didn't think that you had any involvement with the egcs work it's quite possible I'm wrong. If so then my apologies for having forgotten about it; can you send me an appropriate ChangeLog entry for the work you did so that I can include it, and can you organise the appropriate paperwork (ask me if you need a copy of the assignment). If not can you just send me a note to confirm that there's no problem. Thanks p. From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Oct 24 21:24:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA1590175 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 21:24:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA08413 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 21:24:25 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma008409; Sat, 24 Oct 98 21:24:07 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:6728 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <3433-8592>; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 22:23:47 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154396-4806>; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 08:06:54 -0400 Received: from hme0.serv1.is1.u-net.net ([195.102.240.129]:51845 "EHLO serv1.is1.u-net.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <155329-4806>; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 07:54:46 -0400 Received: from [194.119.175.102] (helo=oac.u-net.com) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu id 0zX9c9-0007nX-00; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 19:44:42 +0000 Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 18:55:13 +0100 From: Rob Davis To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Can't get text entry... Message-ID: <7d6c299a48%rob@oac.u-net.com> In-Reply-To: Reply-To: rob.davis@oaci.org X-Organization: OAC Ministries X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40d for RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60m X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1162 Lines: 28 In message Toby Haynes wrote: > > In programs like xpaint, xfig and freeciv (most critically!), writable > text icons don't work. Specifically, if I say load up xfig and click on > Zoom at the bottom, it produces a sub window with a '1' in it, plus OK and > cancel boxes (or something like that!). Normally I would click on this, > delete the 1 and put in a new zoom scale, but this doesn't work on my > RiscPC SA110 ARM Linux 2.0.34 system. I seem to remember this.. Ah yes.. Paul Vigay's Notes. "If you can't type text in X Window text boxes, you may need to edit the .Xdefaults file which is in your root directory..... Just before the emacs section add the following line: *input: true and save the file." Hope that helps -- Rob Davis OAC Ministries, British Registered Charity, 295432 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Homepage: http://www.oac.u-net.com Mobile: 0973 359577 (SMS welcome) rob.davis@oaci.org (Rob.. At the house) unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Oct 24 22:23:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA1596718 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 22:23:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA08546 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 22:23:25 +0200 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma008543; Sat, 24 Oct 98 22:23:00 +0200 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:31240 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <3423-10739>; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 23:20:10 +0300 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <155398-4806>; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 09:18:53 -0400 Received: from neodymium.btinternet.com ([194.73.73.83]:55737 "HELO neodymium.btinternet.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <155390-4806> convert rfc822-to-8bit; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 08:52:47 -0400 Received: from RPC [195.171.232.78] by neodymium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 1.70 #1) id 0zX9Zs-0005pa-00; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 20:42:21 +0100 Message-ID: To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Roy Cotgrove Subject: ARM Linux Installation Help Date: Sat, 24 Oct 98 20:36:29 +0100 ( + ) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 391 Lines: 11 I'm having problems installing ARM Linux, and would appreciate some help from any subscribers within ~1 hour drive of Bracknell. If possible, I would like to arrange to install ARM Linux on my RPC700 in the presence of somebody with a similar installation. Any takers? Thanks Roy (Max) Cotgrove 01344 411252 unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Oct 25 22:05:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA1719476 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 22:04:59 +0100 (CET) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA13779 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 22:04:59 +0100 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma013776; Sun, 25 Oct 98 22:04:33 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:21000 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <731-6224>; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 23:03:50 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154211-4806>; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 09:06:29 -0500 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:1515 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <154286-4806>; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 08:57:06 -0500 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0zXWve-000412-00; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 20:38:22 +0000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: 26-bit elf news Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 20:38:20 +0000 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 378 Lines: 11 Hi, I did some more work on ELF for 26-bit machines this afternoon. Dynamic-linked executables with shared libraries seem to be working now which is nice. The only bug I've noticed thus far is that there is a problem with passing argv[0] to programs and this can cause some bizarre effects. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Oct 25 22:47:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA1771189 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 22:47:29 +0100 (CET) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA13963 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 22:47:29 +0100 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma013961; Sun, 25 Oct 98 22:47:01 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:27408 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <11215-6224>; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 23:46:40 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154260-4806>; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 09:49:45 -0500 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1927 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154241-4806>; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 09:49:30 -0500 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (galatea-76.cableol.net [194.168.16.76] (may be forged)) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id VAA07272 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 21:45:30 GMT Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA12002 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 21:57:05 GMT From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id VAA05274 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 21:46:21 GMT Message-Id: <199810252146.VAA05274@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Linux 2.1.126 patches on ftp site. To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 21:46:20 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 688 Lines: 13 Ok, for all of those who are looking at the 2.1 kernels, a new patch against 2.1.126 is now on the FTP site. Enjoy. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.uk.linux.org --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Oct 26 03:41:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA1829378 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 03:41:32 +0100 (CET) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id DAA15351 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 03:41:32 +0100 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma015348; Mon, 26 Oct 98 03:41:05 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:41061 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2286-21082>; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 04:28:47 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154305-23312>; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 13:54:22 -0500 Received: from post-11.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.40]:59794 "EHLO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154549-23312>; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 13:40:11 -0500 Received: from [193.237.181.70] (helo=cesltd.demon.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.05demon1 #1) id 0zXaI9-0002K8-00 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 00:13:49 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 00:12:35 +0000 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu From: Kevin Church Reply-To: Kevin Church Subject: Install Problems :( MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Trial Version 3.04 X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 689 Lines: 16 Hi, I have a Strong ARM Risc PC 700 (SA-110) and 32mb Ram. A 600mb partition for Linux and am trying to install armlinux. When the installer tries to actaully install the packages it comes up with lots of "RPM install of xxx failed" and when I try to run linux from the disc I have just tried to install on it crashes with "Bad Mode Prefetch Abort Handler mode: SVC_32" or something. Can anybody help? Is it the rpm files have not been properly ziped? How do I zip them ? :) Also : I am using ARMlinux 4th July '97, 1998 kernel amd the latest root and supp. disks. Thanx -- Kevin Church unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Oct 26 03:11:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA1772102 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 03:11:33 +0100 (CET) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id DAA15211 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 03:11:33 +0100 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma015209; Mon, 26 Oct 98 03:11:25 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:46956 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2614-21082>; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 04:04:13 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154515-23312>; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 13:52:38 -0500 Received: from m7.findmail.com ([209.185.96.142]:6719 "HELO findmail.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <154297-23312>; Sun, 25 Oct 1998 13:36:47 -0500 Received: (qmail 24015 invoked by uid 505); 26 Oct 1998 00:32:05 -0000 Date: 26 Oct 1998 00:32:05 -0000 Message-ID: <19981026003205.24014.qmail@findmail.com> Received: from 193.237.181.70 (via http) from to list "linux-arm" From: "Kevin Church" Subject: Install Problem :( To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 732 Lines: 17 Hi, I have a Strong ARM Risc PC 700 (SA-110) and 32mb Ram. A 600mb partition for Linux and am trying to install armlinux. When the installer tries to actaully install the packages it comes up with lots of "RPM install of xxx failed" and when I try to run linux from the disc I have just tried to install on it crashes with "Bad Mode Prefetch Abort Handler mode: SVC_32" or something. Can anybody help? Is it the rpm files have not been properly ziped? How do I zip them ? :) Also : I am using ARMlinux 4th July '97, 1998 kernel amd the latest root and supp. disks. Thanx ----- Free e-mail group hosting at http://www.eGroups.com/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Oct 26 20:28:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA1980263 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 20:28:34 +0100 (CET) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id UAA20846 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 20:28:33 +0100 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma020844; Mon, 26 Oct 98 20:28:26 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:35352 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <8363-21082>; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 21:08:10 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154662-23312>; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 06:28:46 -0500 Received: from mail.thefree.net ([195.34.192.14]:3620 "EHLO mail.thefree.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154674-23312>; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 06:05:36 -0500 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Mon, 26 Oct 1998 18:05:21 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from loopback [195.34.196.164] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Mon, 26 Oct 1998 18:05:15 0000 Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:50:13 +0000 From: Chris Sawer To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Compiling Jaffe Message-ID: Reply-To: chris.sawer@usa.net X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40d for RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60m X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1922 Lines: 50 Hello again, I've been trying to compile Jaffe 1.0b2 (an open source Java interpreter) on ArmLinux on my Acorn RiscPC but it doesn't work. There is a precompiled elf version for the NetWinder (so it has arm support built in), but obviously this wouldn't work on mine. The error starts off with: /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xlib.h:1505: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xlib.h:1515: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype X/imgjpeg.c:54: parse error before `void' X/imgjpeg.c:58: parse error before `->' X/imgjpeg.c:59: parse error before `->' X/imgjpeg.c:59: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype X/imgjpeg.c:59: conflicting types for `longjmp' /usr/include/setjmp.h:93: previous declaration of `longjmp' X/imgjpeg.c:59: warning: data definition has no type or storage class The rest is very similar, but I'm not going to waste your bandwidth with all of it. Here's the corresponding section of imgjpeg.c: 52: typedef struct error_mgr * error_ptr; 53: 54: METHODDEF(void) 55: error_exit ( j_common_ptr cinfo) 56: { 57: error_ptr myerr = (error_ptr) cinfo->err; 58: (*cinfo->err->output_message)(cinfo); 59: longjmp(myerr->setjmp_buffer, 1); 60: } I would be very grateful if anyone can shed any light on this - I do have the latest version of the jpeg libraries, and this worked fine when I compiled the Gimp. If anyone wants me to send them the whole error and c file, I am quite willing to do so. Thanks in advance, Chris -- Chris Sawer - Worthing, Sussex, England ICQ: 15010147 E-Mail: chris.sawer@usa.net PGP public key available on request http://members.xoom.com/chrissawer/ <-- ArmLinux Binaries, Hints and Tips unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Oct 26 21:46:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA1965854 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 21:46:34 +0100 (CET) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA20995 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 21:46:34 +0100 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xmaa20988; Mon, 26 Oct 98 21:46:15 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:28977 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <8190-6234>; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 22:32:36 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154644-23312>; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 08:19:50 -0500 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:1658 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <154654-23312>; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 07:54:39 -0500 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0zXsY5-0004ou-00; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 19:43:29 +0000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: chris.sawer@usa.net cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Compiling Jaffe In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:50:13 GMT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 19:43:29 +0000 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 879 Lines: 17 >I would be very grateful if anyone can shed any light on this - I do have the >latest version of the jpeg libraries, and this worked fine when I compiled >the Gimp. If anyone wants me to send them the whole error and c file, I am >quite willing to do so. You need to post the offending part of the preprocessed source really. It looks like you are missing some macros from your header files. METHODDEF() is presumably supposed to expand to something very like its arguments and that doesn't seem to be happening (either it's not expanding at all or it's expanding to something that the compiler doesn't like) - and this is screwing up the parser so that it gets confused about where the function starts. All the stuff about `parse error before...' and redefining longjmp is due to this. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Oct 27 13:59:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA2189551 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 13:59:04 +0100 (CET) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA22861 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 13:59:04 +0100 Received: from ns.imp.ch(157.161.1.2) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma022857; Tue, 27 Oct 98 13:58:40 +0100 Received: from listserv.funet.fi (listserv.funet.fi [128.214.248.27]) by mail.imp.ch (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA23409 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 13:58:14 +0100 (MET) Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:33033 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10395-17553>; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 14:55:26 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154058-3691>; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 00:43:12 -0500 Received: from post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.27]:53758 "EHLO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154813-3691>; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 00:34:49 -0500 Received: from [193.237.23.100] (helo=gate.sw.milldev.co.uk) by post.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.05demon1 #1) id 0zY8Om-0007DU-00 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:38:56 +0000 Received: from florence.sw.milldev.co.uk (florence.sw.milldev.co.uk [192.168.0.6]) by gate.sw.milldev.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA17086 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:39:01 GMT From: Russell King Received: (from rmk@localhost) by florence.sw.milldev.co.uk (8.8.5/8.7.3) id MAA09627 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:38:59 GMT Message-Id: <199810271238.MAA09627@florence.sw.milldev.co.uk> Subject: Everything Linux (domains) To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:38:59 +0000 (GMT) Content-Type: text X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 527 Lines: 18 Hi all, It appears that the whole of the linux.org domain is off line at the moment. This includes arm.uk.linux.org, so the FTP and web site will not be available. More importantly, mail will not reach me. You may be able to get to me by replacing arm.uk.linux.org with arm.linux.org.uk, however this is not guaranteed to work in all cases. I hope that this problem can be resolved as soon as possible. -- Russell King (rmk@milldev.demon.co.uk) unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Oct 27 22:05:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA2218979 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 22:05:34 +0100 (CET) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA24177 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 22:05:34 +0100 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma024175; Tue, 27 Oct 98 22:05:08 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:6193 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2262-19321>; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 23:02:41 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154990-3691>; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 07:49:05 -0500 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:1876 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <155134-3691>; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 07:23:33 -0500 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0zYEcW-0006jj-00; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 19:17:32 +0000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: 2.1.126 fp avoidance Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 19:17:32 +0000 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 720 Lines: 18 Hi Russell (I've posted this to the mailing list in case others are interested...), The FP avoidance code in entry-armv.S has a rather silly bug. If you look at the __und_usr path, it sets up R9 and R14 with return values, loads R10 with current and then clobbers R14 while setting `used_math'. The net effect is that you get a branch through zero whenever a real undefined instruction is encountered. Oops. The fix is hopefully obvious enough that I don't need to send a patch. :-) Irritatingly both `init' and `bash' on my machine seem to be trying to execute RFS instructions now and of course we don't catch them. Curses. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Oct 28 01:52:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA2218516 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 01:52:34 +0100 (CET) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id BAA24570 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 01:52:34 +0100 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma024568; Wed, 28 Oct 98 01:52:26 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:38233 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <8257-3391>; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 02:50:18 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154908-3691>; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:19:09 -0500 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1768 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154042-3691>; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 08:40:10 -0500 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (galatea-46.cableol.net [194.168.16.46]) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id UAA18025; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 20:45:14 GMT Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA18770; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 21:00:57 GMT From: Russell King Received: (from rmk@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id UAA01129; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 20:46:07 GMT Message-Id: <199810272046.UAA01129@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Domain name change (arm.uk.linux.org) To: devel@netwinder.org, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 20:46:06 +0000 (GMT) X-Location: london.england.earth.mulky-way.universe X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1356 Lines: 29 Hi all, Since people will here may be trying to access my web & ftp servers, and send me mail, I thought it best that I sent this mail to the mailing list rather than trying to work out who it concerns. As some of you may have noticed, the whole of the .linux.org domain is currently down due to DNS problems. However, all is not lost. The arm.uk.linux.org domain is and will always be accessible via arm.linux.org.uk. >From this point on, I am changing my official domain name from arm.uk.linux.org to arm.linux.org.uk, so I would appreciate it if people could change any references to my sites/email addresses to the new arm.linux.org.uk domain. The old domain will probably remain for the forseeable future, but I will not make any guarantees as to it's reliability. Thanks. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King rmk@arm.linux.org.uk --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/~rmk/aboutme.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Oct 28 02:29:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA2132349 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 02:29:34 +0100 (CET) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id CAA24632 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 02:29:34 +0100 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma024630; Wed, 28 Oct 98 02:29:11 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:25883 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2107-3391>; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 03:27:10 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <155093-3691>; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:48:35 -0500 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:1963 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <155203-3691>; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 09:39:39 -0500 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0zYGkV-0006ub-00; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 21:33:55 +0000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: 2.1.126 fp avoidance In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 27 Oct 1998 19:17:32 GMT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 21:33:55 +0000 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 534 Lines: 14 In an earlier episode, I wrote: >Irritatingly both `init' and `bash' on my machine seem to be trying to >execute RFS instructions now and of course we don't catch them. Curses. I found the source of these (I think). It turns out that the glibc floating point initialisation does an RFS followed by an WFS so that it can preserve the state of the "reserved" bits. So just ignoring RFS in the same way as WFS should be OK - I'll try it tomorrow. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Oct 28 14:21:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA2245408 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:21:07 +0100 (CET) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id OAA26159 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:21:07 +0100 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma026148; Wed, 28 Oct 98 14:20:52 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:58736 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <870-3391>; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:19:18 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154392-20667>; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 01:05:09 -0500 Received: from ppp0.ocs.com.au ([203.34.97.3]:17553 "HELO mail.ocs.com.au" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <154819-20667>; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 00:51:17 -0500 Received: (qmail 15933 invoked by uid 502); 28 Oct 1998 13:00:26 -0000 Message-ID: <19981028130025.15925.qmail@mail.ocs.com.au> Received: (qmail 15892 invoked from network); 28 Oct 1998 13:00:18 -0000 Received: from ocs3.ocs-net (192.168.255.3) by mail.ocs.com.au with SMTP; 28 Oct 1998 13:00:17 -0000 From: Keith Owens To: linux-alpha@vger.rutgers.edu, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu, linux-mips@vger.rutgers.edu, sparclinux@vger.rutgers.edu, linux-ppc@dev.linuxppc.org, linux-pmac@samba.anu.edu.au Reply-To: kaos@ocs.com.au Subject: ksymoops 0.5 ready for testing Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 00:00:11 +1200 X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 756 Lines: 16 Apologies for the cross posting but ksymoops is intended to work on all architectures (eventually). I got very little feedback from non-ix86 users on linux-kernel. Trim Cc: on replies. ksymoops 0.5 is available in ftp://ftp.ocs.com.au/pub/ksymoops.tar.gz. It should now handle ix86, M68K, Sparc and Alpha, although only the ix86 has been really tested. Please try it on your favourite Oops log, see if it works and let me know. Without users of other architectures to help, ksymoops will not get extended any further. Major changes since 0.3. Split the source into multiple files with Makefile. Change the default to *not* reading vmlinux, it just duplicates System.map. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Oct 29 04:32:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA2164338 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 04:32:43 +0100 (CET) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id EAA27937 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 04:32:39 +0100 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma027935; Thu, 29 Oct 98 04:32:34 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:28243 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <9051-14230>; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 05:32:18 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <155294-20667>; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 12:44:03 -0500 Received: from hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net ([207.217.120.22]:52455 "EHLO hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <156729-20667>; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:34:04 -0500 Received: from sglass.earthlink.net (1Cust97.tnt16.hou3.da.uu.net [208.255.148.97]) by hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA04733 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:44:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 17:48:02 +0000 (GMT) From: Simon Glass / Linux Subject: gcc - ASM_OUTPUT_ADDR_DIFF_ELT called To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: Organisation name, location. Telephone/Fax? X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.46] X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 381 Lines: 17 Hi. I was compiling some code with gcc 2.7.2.2 and got this: - - - ASM_OUTPUT_ADDR_DIFF_ELT called! in the assembler output, which (unsuprisingly) doesn't assemble. Does anyone know what causes this? Should I try to upgrade gcc (if so, how?). Sorry, but I don't know much yet :-) Regards, Simon unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Oct 29 05:00:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA2264868 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 05:00:09 +0100 (CET) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id FAA27983 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 05:00:09 +0100 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma027978; Thu, 29 Oct 98 04:59:47 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:3152 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <8289-14230>; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 05:59:37 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <155582-20667>; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:28:52 -0500 Received: from mailx.dacom.co.kr ([203.252.3.22]:2056 "EHLO mailx.dacom.co.kr" ident: "SOCKWRITE-65") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <155261-20667>; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 12:29:24 -0500 Received: (from root@localhost) by mailx.dacom.co.kr (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id JAA18351 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:40:20 +0900 (KST) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:40:20 +0900 (KST) Message-Id: <199810290040.JAA18351@mailx.dacom.co.kr> From: JongMoon To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: armlinux kernel compileing problem X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 755 Lines: 18 Hi.. Please help me. I have done make config make dep make clean ..... and make zImage /ARM/bin/arm-unknown-linuxaout-gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/root/arm-kernel/linux/include -m6 -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -pipe -c -o init/main.o init/main.c In file included from /root/arm-kernel/linux/include/asm/io.h:17, frominit/main.c:38: /root/arm-kernel/linux/include/asm/arch/io.h:167:conflicting types for 'writew' /root/arm-kernel/linux/include/asm/arch/io.h:157:previous declaration of 'writew' /root/arm-kernel/linux/include/asm/arch/io.h:172:conflicting types for 'readw' /root/arm-kernel/linux/include/asm/arch/io.h:162:previous declaration of 'readw' make *** [init/main.o] Error 1 unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Oct 29 08:25:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA2276501 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 08:25:40 +0100 (CET) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id IAA28346 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 08:25:40 +0100 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma028344; Thu, 29 Oct 98 08:25:14 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:53362 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <10419-4913>; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:23:22 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <155196-24682>; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 16:15:18 -0500 Received: from post-12.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.41]:37821 "EHLO post.mail.demon.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <155392-20667>; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 13:39:21 -0500 Received: from [158.152.154.179] (helo=mypc) by post.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.05demon1 #1) id 0zYhEN-00052j-00 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 01:50:32 +0000 From: John Ballance Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 01:53:40 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: armlinux 2.1.126 source tree HELP!!! Content-Type: text/plain Message-ID: X-Mailer: Navaho Server Suite 2.00b24/Acorn RISC OS X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 955 Lines: 29 Hi Folks Just downloaded the above source tree. used 'tar -xzvf linux-2.1.126.tar.gz ' its simpler than the command line given in the readme, but gives the same results as that suggested.. THE PROBLEM... (using either decompression command sequence...) first instruction is to 'make mrproper'. this fails with the message ' target symlinks has both : and :: ' renaming symlinks to slinks in Makefile overcomes this, BUT then all sorts of things grumble that they are accessed via too many symbolic links.. HOW ON EARTH DO I GET TO A COMPILABLE SOURCE TREE?? any help gratefully appreciated... (have gcc 2.7.7.2/1) -- John Ballance Castle Technology, Ore Trading Estate, Woodbridge Road, Framlingham, Suffolk UK IP13 9LL Tel 44 (0) 1728 621 631, Fax 44 (0) 1728 621 179 web: http://www.castle-technology.co.uk or http://www.castlet.demon.co.uk unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Oct 29 11:50:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA2288109 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:50:41 +0100 (CET) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA28858 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:50:40 +0100 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma028856; Thu, 29 Oct 98 11:50:13 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:53081 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <3454-4913>; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:46:12 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154015-24682>; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 22:25:59 -0500 Received: from man01.cogency.co.uk ([195.153.128.51]:43228 "HELO mailhost.cogency.co.uk" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <154177-24682>; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 21:53:58 -0500 Received: from treblig.org by mailhost.cogency.co.uk (SMI-8.6/PIPEX simple 1.27) id KAA06051; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:08:11 GMT Message-ID: <36383DAF.5583FB41@treblig.org> Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:04:31 +0000 From: David Alan Gilbert Organization: Cogency Technology Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Ballance , linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: armlinux 2.1.126 source tree HELP!!! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 907 Lines: 29 John Ballance wrote: > > Hi Folks > > Just downloaded the above source tree. > > used 'tar -xzvf linux-2.1.126.tar.gz ' its simpler than the command line > given in > the readme, but gives the same results as that suggested.. > HOW ON EARTH DO I GET TO A COMPILABLE SOURCE TREE?? > any help gratefully appreciated... tar -xvzf linux-2.1.126.tar.gz cd linux patch -p1 < thepatch.off.thearmlinux.ftp.site-for126 make xconfig make dep && make clean && make Image Dave -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Dr. David Alan Gilbert - WARNING! This is a beta release .signature- - Work: dg @ cogency.co.uk - +44-(0)161-428-9444 - - Home: gro.gilbert @ treblig.org - - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Oct 29 12:59:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA2265989 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:59:11 +0100 (CET) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA29051 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:59:11 +0100 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma029049; Thu, 29 Oct 98 12:59:07 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:7172 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2751-14230>; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 13:55:18 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154185-24682>; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 23:36:25 -0500 Received: from spanner.eng.cam.ac.uk ([129.169.8.9]:3054 "EHLO spanner.eng.cam.ac.uk" ident: "[root]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154144-24682>; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 23:08:30 -0500 Received: from tw600.eng.cam.ac.uk (via 95ncp@tw600.eng.cam.ac.uk [129.169.17.140]) by spanner.eng.cam.ac.uk with SMTP id LAA15014 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:20:41 GMT Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:20:41 +0000 (GMT) From: Nigel Parker <95ncp@eng.cam.ac.uk> Reply-To: nigel.parker@iee.org To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: newbie - bad CRCs on some RedHat RPMs Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 757 Lines: 23 I used the Clan CD to install ARM Linux yesterday, but unfortunately some of the RPMs had bad CRCs during unzipping. One of them was the RedHat Component (or Module?) Manager. Is there an easy way to do a half re-install sort of thing. A prog which will check for installed components and attempt to install the missing ones from a new set of RPMs (I'll download them off the ftp site this time). Knowing my luck the thing I need for this is the RCM which was not installed due to error... Any advice appreciated. Nigel -- Girton College, Cambridge, England, CB3 0JG. Tel: 0411 384803 http://welcome.to/nigels nigel.parker@iee.org unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Oct 29 22:35:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA04985 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 22:35:44 +0100 (CET) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id WAA30388 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 22:35:43 +0100 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma030386; Thu, 29 Oct 98 22:35:21 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:4733 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <3713-4913>; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 23:35:08 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154401-24682>; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:21:09 -0500 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:2408 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <154476-24682>; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:20:50 -0500 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0zYzWo-00053D-00; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 21:22:46 +0000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: too much of a good thing Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 21:22:45 +0000 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 457 Lines: 11 I found the cause of my A5000 choking from lack of memory with 2.1 kernels. It seems that the buffer code was allocating a vast array of buffer_head structures and consuming virtually all the available memory straight away. Winding `order' in fs/buffer.c (at about line 1740) down from the default value to something more reasonable has effected a great improvement. :-) p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Oct 29 23:52:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA06356 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 23:52:13 +0100 (CET) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id XAA30508 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 23:52:13 +0100 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma030506; Thu, 29 Oct 98 23:51:40 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:24147 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <845-12349>; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 00:49:22 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154512-24682>; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:27:06 -0500 Received: from mail.thefree.net ([195.34.192.14]:4012 "EHLO mail.thefree.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154540-24682>; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:25:41 -0500 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Thu, 29 Oct 1998 22:39:19 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from loopback [195.34.196.162] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Thu, 29 Oct 1998 22:39:18 0000 Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 22:35:45 +0000 From: Chris Sawer To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Compiling Kaffe Message-ID: <7149d69c48%root@usa.net> In-Reply-To: Reply-To: chris.sawer@usa.net X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40d for RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60m X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1655 Lines: 33 In message Philip Blundell wrote: > > I would be very grateful if anyone can shed any light on this - I do have > > the latest version of the jpeg libraries, and this worked fine when I > > compiled the Gimp. If anyone wants me to send them the whole error and c > > file, I am quite willing to do so. > > You need to post the offending part of the preprocessed source really. It > looks like you are missing some macros from your header files. METHODDEF() > is presumably supposed to expand to something very like its arguments and > that doesn't seem to be happening (either it's not expanding at all or > it's expanding to something that the compiler doesn't like) - and this is > screwing up the parser so that it gets confused about where the function > starts. All the stuff about `parse error before...' and redefining > longjmp is due to this. Thanks - as a temporary fix I removed all the offending bits from that part of the source. It now compiles, but won't run any of the example programs - I'll ask on the Kaffe mailing list (sorry about getting the name of the program wrong last time!). Chris. PS. If anyone else has compiled kaffe from source on arm-linux I'd be interested in hearing from you - on my system it stops when loading "CharToByteDefault.class" -- Chris Sawer - Worthing, Sussex, England ICQ: 15010147 E-Mail: chris.sawer@usa.net PGP public key available on request http://members.xoom.com/chrissawer/ <-- ArmLinux Binaries, Hints and Tips unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Oct 30 19:04:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA73534 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 19:04:50 +0100 (CET) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA00293 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 19:04:49 +0100 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma000291; Fri, 30 Oct 98 19:04:42 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:41552 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <6774-12349>; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 19:55:55 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154238-24682>; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 05:39:46 -0500 Received: from lizard.u-net.net ([195.102.240.251]:50081 "EHLO serv1.is1.u-net.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154781-24682>; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 05:39:24 -0500 Received: from [194.119.175.102] (helo=oac.u-net.com) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.00 #2) for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu id 0zZJgK-0001E0-00; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 18:53:57 +0000 Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 16:02:39 +0000 From: Rob Davis To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Mounting ADFS disks on a I386 Linux Box Message-ID: <4922369d48%rob@oac.u-net.com> Reply-To: rob.davis@oaci.org X-Organization: OAC Ministries X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40d for RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60m X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 591 Lines: 11 Would I need to compile into the kernel (or as a module) to be able to read ADFS disks from an I386 Linux box? I have a number of syquest and zip disks that are ADFS format that I'd like to be able to still access when we go fully Linux at work. -- Rob Davis OAC Ministries, British Registered Charity, 295432 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Homepage: http://www.oac.u-net.com Mobile: 0973 359577 (SMS welcome) rob.davis@oaci.org (Rob.. At the house) unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Oct 30 19:36:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA74172 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 19:36:21 +0100 (CET) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA00370 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 19:36:21 +0100 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma000367; Fri, 30 Oct 98 19:36:02 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:14975 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <6824-23901>; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 20:32:16 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154732-24682>; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 06:08:39 -0500 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:2526 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "exim") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <155378-24682>; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 06:05:58 -0500 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0zZIqX-0007Jf-00; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 18:00:25 +0000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: rob.davis@oaci.org cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Mounting ADFS disks on a I386 Linux Box In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 30 Oct 1998 16:02:39 GMT." <4922369d48%rob@oac.u-net.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 18:00:25 +0000 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 434 Lines: 12 >Would I need to compile into the kernel (or as a module) to be able to >read ADFS disks from an I386 Linux box? I have a number of syquest >and zip disks that are ADFS format that I'd like to be able to >still access when we go fully Linux at work. You need ADFS support and maybe ADFS partition support too. Shouldn't be too big a problem though. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Oct 31 04:51:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA82300 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 04:51:23 +0100 (CET) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id EAA01360 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 04:51:23 +0100 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma001358; Sat, 31 Oct 98 04:51:13 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:41536 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <8836-19939>; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 05:49:46 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154936-18277>; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 14:34:21 -0500 Received: from relay4.UU.NET ([192.48.96.14]:3953 "EHLO relay4.UU.NET" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <154972-18277>; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 12:58:32 -0500 Received: from mail2.thefree.net by relay4.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: mail2.thefree.net [195.34.192.5]) id QQfnjm05498; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 15:44:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.thefree.net [195.34.192.14] by mail2.thefree.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-4.06) id AEA017470150; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 19:08:16 +00d0 Received: by mail.thefree.net from localhost (router,SLMail V3.1); Fri, 30 Oct 1998 20:07:01 +0100 Received: by mail.thefree.net from loopback [195.34.195.242] (SLmail 3.1.2948 (Release Build)); Fri, 30 Oct 1998 20:07:00 0000 Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 20:03:01 +0000 From: Chris Sawer To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Compiling Kaffe Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <7149d69c48%root@usa.net> Reply-To: chris.sawer@usa.net X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40d for RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.60m X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1411 Lines: 34 I'm still trying with Kaffe (in a.out format)- I thought earlier today that it may help to compile it statically so that it has more memory accessible. I typed "make" in the appropriate directory, copying the final command line but adding a "-static" on the end: gcc -g -O2 -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -I. -I./../kaffevm -I../../config -I./../../config -I../../include -I./../../include -o Kaffe main.o ../kaffevm/libkaffevm.a ../../libraries/clib/native/libnative.a ../../libraries/clib/net/libnet.a ../../libraries/clib/zip/libzip.a ../../libraries/clib/math/libmath.a ../../libraries/clib/management/libmanagement.a ../../libraries/clib/awt/libawt.a -lm -lc -lz -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 -ljpeg -lpng -lz -static But this error occurs: ld: Output file requires shared library `libc.so.4' abort from 0x2003720c gcc: Internal compiler error: program ld got fatal signal 6 When libc.so.4 exists in /lib/. Typing in the same line without "-static" gives a binary which seems to work, but of course is dynamically linked so can't access enough memory (I think). Can anyone help? Chris -- Chris Sawer - Worthing, Sussex, England ICQ: 15010147 E-Mail: chris.sawer@usa.net PGP public key available on request http://members.xoom.com/chrissawer/ <-- ArmLinux Binaries, Hints and Tips unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Oct 31 01:18:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA79230 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 01:18:52 +0100 (CET) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id BAA01036 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 01:18:52 +0100 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma001033; Sat, 31 Oct 98 01:18:35 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:23376 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <3447-19939>; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 02:16:51 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154806-18277>; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 10:31:22 -0500 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1908 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <155342-18277>; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 09:33:35 -0500 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (galatea-96.cableol.net [194.168.16.96] (may be forged)) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id VAA23192; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 21:49:34 GMT Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA29549 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 21:33:40 GMT From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id VAA00776 for philb@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 21:33:23 GMT Message-Id: <199810302133.VAA00776@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: Mounting ADFS disks on a I386 Linux Box To: rob.davis@oaci.org (Rob Davis) CC: philb@gnu.org (Philip Blundell), linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 21:33:23 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: from "Philip Blundell" at Oct 30, 98 06:00:25 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1590 Lines: 38 Philip Blundell writes: > >Would I need to compile into the kernel (or as a module) to be able to > >read ADFS disks from an I386 Linux box? I have a number of syquest > >and zip disks that are ADFS format that I'd like to be able to > >still access when we go fully Linux at work. > > You need ADFS support and maybe ADFS partition support too. Shouldn't be too > big a problem though. To specify it more closely: You need to be running a recent 2.1 kernel with the ARM patches applied. This will give you two things: 1. Updated ADFS support (with mount options) 2. More generic partition support (with user configuration options, and ADFS disk support). 3. Documentation in Documentation/filesystems on the ADFS support. With this, you should find that your partitions are now identified as hda: [DOS] hda1 hda2 hda3 sda: [ADFS] sda1 If you want to mount the ADFS partition, you should use 'sda1' rather than 'sda', thus: mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/adfs -t adfs Hmm, do people think that this is FAQ'able? _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.linux.org.uk --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Oct 31 01:18:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA40307 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 01:18:52 +0100 (CET) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id BAA01037 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 01:18:52 +0100 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xmaa01033; Sat, 31 Oct 98 01:18:37 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:23376 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <3534-18914>; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 02:17:18 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154816-18277>; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 10:31:32 -0500 Received: from snowcrash.cymru.net ([163.164.160.3]:1910 "EHLO snowcrash.cymru.net" ident: "TIMEDOUT") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <155350-18277>; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 09:33:41 -0500 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org (galatea-96.cableol.net [194.168.16.96] (may be forged)) by snowcrash.cymru.net (8.8.7/8.7.1) with ESMTP id VAA23196; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 21:49:37 GMT Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org (raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA29573; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 21:41:47 GMT From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org (8.7.4/8.7.3) id VAA00808; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 21:41:30 GMT Message-Id: <199810302141.VAA00808@raistlin.armlinux.org> Subject: Re: newbie - bad CRCs on some RedHat RPMs To: nigel.parker@iee.org Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 21:41:30 +0000 (GMT) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Nigel Parker" at Oct 29, 98 11:20:41 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1536 Lines: 31 Nigel Parker writes: > I used the Clan CD to install ARM Linux yesterday, but unfortunately some > of the RPMs had bad CRCs during unzipping. One of them was the RedHat > Component (or Module?) Manager. > > Is there an easy way to do a half re-install sort of thing. A prog which > will check for installed components and attempt to install the missing > ones from a new set of RPMs (I'll download them off the ftp site this > time). Aha, another IEE person! ;) You don't have to give the installer all the RPMs in one go actually. Obviously it is nicer if you can, but it is possible to give it only one RPM. You could try just unpacking the rpm-2.3-5a1.rpm and whichever others are corrupted into the RedHat/RPMS directory. When you re-run the installer, tell it you want to install, but do not allow it to format your partition. It will come up with a load of 'dne' errors, however you could cut down on the 'comps' file before the installer reads it... _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.linux.org.uk --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Oct 31 03:28:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA81114 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 03:28:53 +0100 (CET) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id DAA01259 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 03:28:52 +0100 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma001257; Sat, 31 Oct 98 03:28:35 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:9766 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <8613-19939>; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 04:26:09 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154330-18277>; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 12:20:32 -0500 Received: from spanner.eng.cam.ac.uk ([129.169.8.9]:4493 "EHLO spanner.eng.cam.ac.uk" ident: "[root]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id <155083-18277>; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 11:56:30 -0500 Received: from club.eng.cam.ac.uk (via 95ncp@club.eng.cam.ac.uk [129.169.16.2]) by spanner.eng.cam.ac.uk with SMTP id AAA06166; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 00:12:43 GMT Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 00:12:42 +0000 (GMT) From: Nigel Parker <95ncp@eng.cam.ac.uk> Reply-To: nigel.parker@iee.org To: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Linux admin tutorials (was: newbie - bad CRCs on some RedHat RPMs) In-Reply-To: <199810302141.VAA00808@raistlin.armlinux.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 1424 Lines: 39 Thanks. I actually did a full reinstall using the RPMs from the ftp site. It all works swimmingly now! Now I need to know about configuring and admin stuff. Can you recommend some good web tutorials? I'll check for links from www.arm.uk.linux.org as well! Cheers. Nigel On Fri, 30 Oct 1998, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote: : Nigel Parker writes: : > I used the Clan CD to install ARM Linux yesterday, but unfortunately some : > of the RPMs had bad CRCs during unzipping. One of them was the RedHat : > Component (or Module?) Manager. : > : > Is there an easy way to do a half re-install sort of thing. A prog which : > will check for installed components and attempt to install the missing : > ones from a new set of RPMs (I'll download them off the ftp site this : > time). : : Aha, another IEE person! ;) : : You don't have to give the installer all the RPMs in one go actually. : Obviously it is nicer if you can, but it is possible to give it only : one RPM. : : You could try just unpacking the rpm-2.3-5a1.rpm and whichever others are : corrupted into the RedHat/RPMS directory. When you re-run the installer, : tell it you want to install, but do not allow it to format your partition. : : It will come up with a load of 'dne' errors, however you could cut down : on the 'comps' file before the installer reads it... unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Oct 31 04:31:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id EAA82099 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 04:31:23 +0100 (CET) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id EAA01337 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 04:31:23 +0100 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma001335; Sat, 31 Oct 98 04:31:22 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:41536 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2128-18914>; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 05:29:14 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <153941-18277>; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 13:20:12 -0500 Received: from neodymium.btinternet.com ([194.73.73.83]:52959 "HELO neodymium.btinternet.com" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <154846-18277> convert rfc822-to-8bit; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 12:17:36 -0500 Received: from RPC [195.99.56.24] by neodymium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 1.70 #1) id 0zZOy1-0002Km-00; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 00:32:33 +0000 Message-ID: To: Arm Linux mailing list MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Roy Cotgrove Subject: RPC Kernel and Modules Date: Sat, 31 Oct 98 00:37:37 GMT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 539 Lines: 11 I have had no success in testing the functionality of the Linux kernel as described at 5.3 of the installation notes. I think this is because the dowloaded RPC kernel and modules are not in a recognisable form (due to my ignorance of the archiving method used). How should I prepare the downloaded files and modules, and where should I place them. Also, what additional keywords do I need to access Linux when prompted by bootloader. Thanks Roy Cotgrove unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Oct 31 16:56:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA91130 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 16:56:22 +0100 (CET) Received: (from mail@localhost) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA02388 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 16:56:22 +0100 Received: from listserv.funet.fi(128.214.248.27) by mentolat.core.genedata.com via smap (V2.0) id xma002386; Sat, 31 Oct 98 16:56:05 +0100 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu ([128.6.190.2]:31804 "EHLO vger.rutgers.edu" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by listserv.funet.fi with ESMTP id <2422-18914>; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 17:54:19 +0200 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id <154318-18277>; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 03:28:54 -0500 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:2807 "HELO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org" ident: "TIMEDOUT2") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id <153861-18277>; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 03:26:28 -0500 Received: from kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org [127.0.0.1] (phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 1.71 #1) id 0zZclM-00014S-00; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 15:16:24 +0000 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: random console changes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 15:16:24 +0000 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Status: RO Content-Length: 7358 Lines: 248 Here's a motley collection of patches. Basically, they do: - let acornfb know what colour depth is in use rather than always assuming 4bpp - don't link ll_char_wr into the kernel if fbcon is in use - make 1bpp modes work properly (previously characters were reversed) I'm posting it to the list in hopes that someone will feel keen enough to tidy the changes up so that they can be installed into the kernel. p. --- linux/arch/arm/lib/ll_char_wr.S~ Sun Jun 21 11:15:19 1998 +++ linux/arch/arm/lib/ll_char_wr.S Sat Oct 31 15:07:03 1998 @@ -15,6 +15,7 @@ #include #include + .text #define BOLD 0x01 @@ -135,23 +136,40 @@ tst ip, #INVERSE << 9 mvnne r4, r4 mvnne r7, r7 - strb r4, [r0], r5 - mov r4, r4, lsr #8 - strb r4, [r0], r5 + ldr lr, =bitswap + tst ip, #UNDERLINE << 9 + and ip, r4, #255 + ldrb ip, [lr, ip] + strb ip, [r0], r5 mov r4, r4, lsr #8 - strb r4, [r0], r5 + and ip, r4, #255 + ldrb ip, [lr, ip] + strb ip, [r0], r5 mov r4, r4, lsr #8 - strb r4, [r0], r5 - strb r7, [r0], r5 + and ip, r4, #255 + ldrb ip, [lr, ip] + strb ip, [r0], r5 + mov ip, r4, lsr #8 + ldrb ip, [lr, ip] + strb ip, [r0], r5 + and ip, r7, #255 + ldrb ip, [lr, ip] + strb ip, [r0], r5 mov r7, r7, lsr #8 - strb r7, [r0], r5 + and ip, r7, #255 + ldrb ip, [lr, ip] + strb ip, [r0], r5 mov r7, r7, lsr #8 - strb r7, [r0], r5 - mov r7, r7, lsr #8 - tst ip, #UNDERLINE << 9 - mvneq r7, r7 - strb r7, [r0], r5 + and ip, r7, #255 + ldrb ip, [lr, ip] + strb ip, [r0], r5 + mov ip, r7, lsr #8 + ldrb ip, [lr, ip] + mvneq ip, ip + strb ip, [r0], r5 LOADREGS(fd, sp!, {r4 - r7, pc}) + + .ltorg .bss ENTRY(con_charconvtable) --- linux/arch/arm/lib/Makefile~ Sun Sep 13 00:38:17 1998 +++ linux/arch/arm/lib/Makefile Sat Oct 31 15:04:41 1998 @@ -6,14 +6,17 @@ L_TARGET := lib.a L_OBJS := backtrace.o bitops.o checksum.o delay.o io.o memcpy.o \ - system.o string.o uaccess.o + system.o string.o uaccess.o bitswap.o ifeq ($(PROCESSOR),armo) L_OBJS += uaccess-armo.o endif ifdef CONFIG_ARCH_ACORN - L_OBJS += loaders.o ll_char_wr.o io-acorn.o + L_OBJS += loaders.o io-acorn.o + ifndef CONFIG_FB + L_OBJS += ll_char_wr.S + endif ifdef CONFIG_ARCH_A5K L_OBJS += floppydma.o endif --- linux/arch/arm/kernel/setup.c~ Tue Oct 27 19:06:29 1998 +++ linux/arch/arm/kernel/setup.c Thu Oct 29 22:16:17 1998 @@ -178,15 +178,15 @@ ORIG_VIDEO_LINES = params->u1.s.video_num_rows; #ifdef CONFIG_ARCH_ACORN -#ifndef CONFIG_FB - { + { extern int bytes_per_char_h; +#ifndef CONFIG_FB extern int bytes_per_char_v; - bytes_per_char_h = params->u1.s.bytes_per_char_h; bytes_per_char_v = params->u1.s.bytes_per_char_v; - } #endif + bytes_per_char_h = params->u1.s.bytes_per_char_h; + } memc_ctrl_reg = params->u1.s.memc_control_reg; number_ide_drives = (params->u1.s.adfsdrives >> 6) & 3; number_mfm_drives = (params->u1.s.adfsdrives >> 3) & 3; --- linux/drivers/video/acornfb.c~ Tue Oct 27 19:06:35 1998 +++ linux/drivers/video/acornfb.c Sat Oct 31 14:45:54 1998 @@ -90,6 +90,7 @@ static struct display disp; static struct fb_info fb_info; static struct acornfb_par current_par; +int bytes_per_char_h; static inline void acornfb_palette_write(u_int regno, union palette pal) @@ -238,7 +239,7 @@ var->yoffset = 0; var->bits_per_pixel = par->bits_per_pixel; var->grayscale = 0; - var->red.msb_right = 0; + var->red.msb_right = (par->bits_per_pixel == 1); var->transp.msb_right = 0; var->red.offset = 0; var->transp.offset = 0; @@ -343,7 +344,7 @@ current_par.xres = 8 * ORIG_VIDEO_COLS; current_par.yres = 8 * ORIG_VIDEO_LINES; - current_par.bits_per_pixel = 4; + current_par.bits_per_pixel = bytes_per_char_h; current_par.screen_base = SCREEN2_BASE; current_par.palette_size = VIDC_PALETTE_SIZE; acornfb_update_par(¤t_par); --- linux/drivers/video/fbcon.c~ Mon Oct 26 20:14:47 1998 +++ linux/drivers/video/fbcon.c Sat Oct 31 15:02:06 1998 @@ -1834,13 +1834,16 @@ /* monochrome */ unsigned char inverse = p->inverse ? 0x00 : 0xff; + extern char bitswap[]; /* can't use simply memcpy because need to apply inverse */ for( y1 = 0; y1 < LOGO_H; y1++ ) { src = logo + y1*LOGO_LINE + x/8; dst = fb + y1*line; - for( x1 = 0; x1 < LOGO_LINE; ++x1 ) - *dst++ = *src++ ^ inverse; + for( x1 = 0; x1 < LOGO_LINE; ++x1 ) { + char c = *src++; + *dst++ = (p->var.red.msb_right?bitswap[c]:c) ^ inverse; + } } done = 1; } --- linux/arch/arm/Makefile~ Thu Oct 29 19:00:47 1998 +++ linux/arch/arm/Makefile Sat Oct 31 14:36:59 1998 @@ -79,7 +79,7 @@ ifeq ($(CONFIG_ARCH_A5K),y) MACHINE = a5k ARCHDIR = arc -COMPRESSED_EXTRA = $(TOPDIR)/arch/arm/lib/ll_char_wr.o +COMPRESSED_EXTRA = $(TOPDIR)/arch/arm/lib/ll_char_wr.o $(TOPDIR)/arch/arm/lib/bitswap.o endif ifeq ($(CONFIG_ARCH_ARC),y) --- /dev/null Sun Oct 12 19:38:15 1997 +++ linux/arch/arm/lib/bitswap.c Sat Oct 31 14:12:38 1998 @@ -0,0 +1,35 @@ +unsigned char bitswap[256] = +{ + 0x00, 0x80, 0x40, 0xc0, 0x20, 0xa0, 0x60, 0xe0, + 0x10, 0x90, 0x50, 0xd0, 0x30, 0xb0, 0x70, 0xf0, + 0x08, 0x88, 0x48, 0xc8, 0x28, 0xa8, 0x68, 0xe8, + 0x18, 0x98, 0x58, 0xd8, 0x38, 0xb8, 0x78, 0xf8, + 0x04, 0x84, 0x44, 0xc4, 0x24, 0xa4, 0x64, 0xe4, + 0x14, 0x94, 0x54, 0xd4, 0x34, 0xb4, 0x74, 0xf4, + 0x0c, 0x8c, 0x4c, 0xcc, 0x2c, 0xac, 0x6c, 0xec, + 0x1c, 0x9c, 0x5c, 0xdc, 0x3c, 0xbc, 0x7c, 0xfc, + 0x02, 0x82, 0x42, 0xc2, 0x22, 0xa2, 0x62, 0xe2, + 0x12, 0x92, 0x52, 0xd2, 0x32, 0xb2, 0x72, 0xf2, + 0x0a, 0x8a, 0x4a, 0xca, 0x2a, 0xaa, 0x6a, 0xea, + 0x1a, 0x9a, 0x5a, 0xda, 0x3a, 0xba, 0x7a, 0xfa, + 0x06, 0x86, 0x46, 0xc6, 0x26, 0xa6, 0x66, 0xe6, + 0x16, 0x96, 0x56, 0xd6, 0x36, 0xb6, 0x76, 0xf6, + 0x0e, 0x8e, 0x4e, 0xce, 0x2e, 0xae, 0x6e, 0xee, + 0x1e, 0x9e, 0x5e, 0xde, 0x3e, 0xbe, 0x7e, 0xfe, + 0x01, 0x81, 0x41, 0xc1, 0x21, 0xa1, 0x61, 0xe1, + 0x11, 0x91, 0x51, 0xd1, 0x31, 0xb1, 0x71, 0xf1, + 0x09, 0x89, 0x49, 0xc9, 0x29, 0xa9, 0x69, 0xe9, + 0x19, 0x99, 0x59, 0xd9, 0x39, 0xb9, 0x79, 0xf9, + 0x05, 0x85, 0x45, 0xc5, 0x25, 0xa5, 0x65, 0xe5, + 0x15, 0x95, 0x55, 0xd5, 0x35, 0xb5, 0x75, 0xf5, + 0x0d, 0x8d, 0x4d, 0xcd, 0x2d, 0xad, 0x6d, 0xed, + 0x1d, 0x9d, 0x5d, 0xdd, 0x3d, 0xbd, 0x7d, 0xfd, + 0x03, 0x83, 0x43, 0xc3, 0x23, 0xa3, 0x63, 0xe3, + 0x13, 0x93, 0x53, 0xd3, 0x33, 0xb3, 0x73, 0xf3, + 0x0b, 0x8b, 0x4b, 0xcb, 0x2b, 0xab, 0x6b, 0xeb, + 0x1b, 0x9b, 0x5b, 0xdb, 0x3b, 0xbb, 0x7b, 0xfb, + 0x07, 0x87, 0x47, 0xc7, 0x27, 0xa7, 0x67, 0xe7, + 0x17, 0x97, 0x57, 0xd7, 0x37, 0xb7, 0x77, 0xf7, + 0x0f, 0x8f, 0x4f, 0xcf, 0x2f, 0xaf, 0x6f, 0xef, + 0x1f, 0x9f, 0x5f, 0xdf, 0x3f, 0xbf, 0x7f, 0xff +}; --- linux/drivers/video/fbcon-mfb.c~ Fri Oct 16 19:41:48 1998 +++ linux/drivers/video/fbcon-mfb.c Sat Oct 31 14:45:25 1998 @@ -18,6 +18,7 @@ #include