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Ian Jeffray writes:
> This has been mentioned at least twice on here now... the
> www.arm.uk.linux.org  address is deprecated and you should be
> using www.arm.linux.org.uk
> 
> HOWEVER - www.arm.linux.org.uk is not working either!... you just
> get a Cymru.net webpage (presumably because the 'faked' multihomed
> server doesnt recognise that it's supposed to serve that domain)

It should be working correctly since Thursday.

> PS The ftp server ftp.arm.linux.org.uk works fine... although
> it's text messages report the old address.  DNS mess.  Lovely.

What's happened is that InterNIC have messed up - they were supposed to
change the primary DNS server for linux.org, but they haven't.
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> > get a Cymru.net webpage (presumably because the 'faked' multihomed
> > server doesnt recognise that it's supposed to serve that domain)
> 
> It should be working correctly since Thursday.

No the web server didnt have some right magic in it. I fixed in saturday

Alan
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Hi folks

firstly thanks to all who replied to my earlier query.. things have
gone much further now, but I'm still not able to compile:

 Here's what I've done:
1. pulled the full 2.1.126 source tree from the armlinux ftp site

2. put it in /usr/src and did tar -xzf to it

3. HOORAY.. found it is (in theory) already patched for arm.. i.e. its no
use to run the patches on it

4. need to modify 2 bits in linux/Makefile..
  a)  comment out the SPM definition about 6 lines in
  b)  add an additional colon after the symlinks: target, about 126 lines in

5. created the following file and ran it from linux dir:

  make mrproper
  ln -sf /usr/src/linux/include/linux /usr/include
  ln -sf /usr/src/linux/include/asm /usr/include
  ln -sf /usr/src/linux/include/scsi /usr/include
  echo > /usr/src/linux/include/linux/autoconf.h 
  mkdir /usr/src/linux/arch/arm/drivers
  cp /usr/src/linkitmf /usr/src/linux/arch/arm/drivers/Makefile
  make config
  make symlinks
  make clean
  make dep
  
where /usr/src/linkitmf is an empty Makefile as follows:
  mrproper:

  fastdep:


6. this runs and creates the dependency files without reporting errors

7. then ran make clean

8. then ran make vmlinux  (or make zImage)
  lots of chuntering, then the following error report:

    init/main.c:399 section attributes not supported for this target
 (repeated for lines 538 and 846)
  this seems to be where it is trying to __initdata { an array

  using gcc 2.7.2.2

whats amiss?  do I need a later gcc, if so, which version, and from where









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>No, I have not contributed to the EGCS work.

Great, thanks for confirming that.

p.


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John Ballance writes:
>  Here's what I've done:
> 1. pulled the full 2.1.126 source tree from the armlinux ftp site

Beware - the armlinux ftp site is a shared server (it's also ftp.linux.org.uk
as well), and therefore contains other non-ARM works.

> 2. put it in /usr/src and did tar -xzf to it
> 
> 3. HOORAY.. found it is (in theory) already patched for arm.. i.e. its no
> use to run the patches on it

Not quite.  Linus' tree does have some of the ARM stuff in, however it is not
complete.  I would suggest getting a copy of the latest patch as well.

>   echo > /usr/src/linux/include/linux/autoconf.h 

This is actually the interesting part.  I've noticed that you /need/ to have
autoconf.h present in order to make config (which is silly).  I'm looking into
this now.

>     init/main.c:399 section attributes not supported for this target
>  (repeated for lines 538 and 846)
>   this seems to be where it is trying to __initdata { an array
> 
> whats amiss?  do I need a later gcc, if so, which version, and from where

You do indeed require a later version of both gcc and binutils.  I'm sure
that Phil B. will post a followup message explaining this side of things.
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>Where can I find the glibc2.1 sources.

The latest alpha release is on alpha.gnu.org:/gnu/libc.

You can also access the sources by anonymous CVS.  I think the location is 
glibc.cygnus.com:/libc/cvsfiles but I'm not 100% sure about that and I'm not 
in a position to check right now.

If you want to target an arm-linux system the sources from CVS are probably a 
better bet - the 2.0.99 release has some problems.  The next alpha release 
should be OK so long as nothing disastrous happens.

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>4. need to modify 2 bits in linux/Makefile..
>  a)  comment out the SPM definition about 6 lines in

If you had to do that then your tree didn't have the ARM patches applied.  It 
sounds like you've got vanilla 2.1.126 which has just enough ARM stuff 
included to trick the casual observer into thinking it should work - but in 
fact it won't.

>whats amiss?  do I need a later gcc, if so, which version, and from where

Probably.  The FAQ has an (admittedly slightly terse) mention of this:

	http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/armlinux/faq.html#misc002

See http://egcs.cygnus.com/ for information about where to get egcs.  You can 
get binutils from sunsite.unc.edu or tsx-11.mit.edu; look in /pub/linux/GCC or 
/pub/linux/packages/GCC.  You must install binutils before you try to compile 
GCC.

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>>   echo > /usr/src/linux/include/linux/autoconf.h 
>
>This is actually the interesting part.  I've noticed that you /need/ to have
>autoconf.h present in order to make config (which is silly).  I'm looking into
>this now.

I've never noticed that.  Bizarre.

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Where can I find the glibc2.1 sources.

Thanks

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Hi,

This is to all people using the ssh, the secure shell, on the ARM
platform.

There has been a security alert (on RootShell) about ssh 1.2.26 having
a buffer overflow problem.

Although the current version on the FTP site is 1.2.20 (rather old), it
is probably a good idea to upgrade anyway.

Since it may be possible to use the same method on the ARM to gain root
access, I have produced a new set of RPMs which should have this hole
fixed.

Although I'm not saying that there are no holes and that this hole is
definitely fixed, I recommend (if you are using ssh) to upgrade to the
new version ssh-1.2.26-2i (a.out) on the FTP site.

For those using ELF (Netwinder), I think that the SRPM should be able
to be rebuilt easily.

Location:
binary:	ftp.arm.uk.linux.org:/pub/armlinux/RedHat/non-free/RPMS
source:	ftp.arm.uk.linux.org:/pub/armlinux/RedHat/non-free/SRPMS

	OR your nearest mirror (eg, ftp.netwinder.org)

To upgrade:
	/etc/rc.d/init.d/sshd.init stop
	rpm --erase ssh-clients ssh
	rpm -i --nodeps ssh-1.2.26-2i.arm.rpm
	rpm -i --nodeps ssh-clients-1.2.26-2i.arm.rpm
	rpm -i --nodeps ssh-server-1.2.26-2i.arm.rpm
	/etc/rc.d/init.d/sshd start

NOTE: the old ssh packages had the symlinks from /etc/rc.d/rc?.d/* to
sshd.init, which will be removed.  To allow ssh to be automatically
started at boot, place the symlinks as follows:

	ln -sf ../init.d/sshd /etc/rc.d/rc0.d/K45sshd
	ln -sf ../init.d/sshd /etc/rc.d/rc3.d/S55sshd
	ln -sf ../init.d/sshd /etc/rc.d/rc4.d/S55sshd
	ln -sf ../init.d/sshd /etc/rc.d/rc5.d/S55sshd
	ln -sf ../init.d/sshd /etc/rc.d/rc6.d/K45sshd

THIS INFORMATION AND PROGRAMS ARE PROVIDED "AS IS" WITHOUT WARRANTY OF
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(Just thought I'd include the lack of warranty). ;)
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Thanks Russell

I did get the patch-2.1.126 and attempted to apply it.. It was very busy
claiming that
the patches were already applied. It does seem that 2.1.126 has *almost* all
the patches 
needed, certainly many more than expected

could you do a diff between the arm version 2.1.126 and the linux-2.1.126
source tree 
on the arm kernel page of armlinux ftp site?

Indeed I do understand thet there's LOTS of platforms covered there...

many thanks in advance...

John




On Mon, 02 Nov, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin  wrote:
> John Ballance writes:
> >  Here's what I've done:
> > 1. pulled the full 2.1.126 source tree from the armlinux ftp site
> 
> Beware - the armlinux ftp site is a shared server (it's also
> ftp.linux.org.uk
as well), and therefore contains other non-ARM works.
> 
> > 2. put it in /usr/src and did tar -xzf to it
> > 
> > 3. HOORAY.. found it is (in theory) already patched for arm.. i.e. its no
> > use to run the patches on it
> 
> Not quite.  Linus' tree does have some of the ARM stuff in, however it is
> not
complete.  I would suggest getting a copy of the latest patch as well.
> 
> >   echo > /usr/src/linux/include/linux/autoconf.h 
> 
> This is actually the interesting part.  I've noticed that you /need/ to
have
> autoconf.h present in order to make config (which is silly).  I'm looking
> into
this now.
> 
> >     init/main.c:399 section attributes not supported for this target
> >  (repeated for lines 538 and 846)
> >   this seems to be where it is trying to __initdata { an array
> > 
> > whats amiss?  do I need a later gcc, if so, which version, and from where
> 
> You do indeed require a later version of both gcc and binutils.  I'm sure
> that Phil B. will post a followup message explaining this side of things.
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Apologies for the cross posting but ksymoops is intended to work on all
architectures (eventually).  Trim Cc: on replies.

ksymoops 0.6 is available in ftp://ftp.ocs.com.au/pub/ksymoops.tar.gz.

It should now handle ix86, M68K, Sparc, Alpha, PPC and MIPS, although
some archs still need testing.  Please try it on your favourite Oops
log, see if it works and let me know.

Major changes since 0.5.  Uses bfd instead of a.out for the object
file, should be completely machine portable.  Reads lsmod.  Supports
MIPS, PPC.  Includes optional kernel patches to provide enough info in
the Oops report for ksymoops to report on.

Thanks to Ryan Nielsen, Ulf Carlsson, Philip Gladstone for testing
above and beyond the call of duty.  Also to Andries Brouwer for
pointing out things I hadn't seen, couldn't see or sometimes didn't
want to see.

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>How do I build the source rpms I've downloaded for this package?  I

Something along the lines of "rpm --recompile ..." I think.  If I remember 
right you don't want "rpm --build"; that expects a specs file rather than a 
complete RPM as an argument.

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Don't know too much about linux at the moment, so this may be a silly
question!

How do I build the source rpms I've downloaded for this package?  I
probably need to know what an "rcfile" is (needed for "rpm --build"
according to the help).

On a different note, does anybody know where I can get hold of a decent
system config program (preferably that won't need compiling from
scratch!)?

Cheers.


Nigel
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hi Folks, and Russell

As confirmation.. I must have got the source tree from the kernel.org
area.. finally found
 the pre-patch 2.1.126 in the armlinux site.. now I dont need to patch
the Makefile...

BUT.. the gcc I have still wont compile the init/main.c ... it still
grumbles about
the data area static initialisation.  I am running gcc-2.7.2.2.   Russell
mentions a
version with ELF extensions.. anyone know where to find that? or have I
yet 
another funny to resolve?

Thanks in advance
-- 
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I've just noticed that there are still many character devices missing on ARM 
systems.  Rather than try to apply ever more band-aids to the arch/arm/drivers 
stuff to fix this up, I thought I'd see what would be involved in actually 
getting rid of the char1 directory for good.

Most of the files in here are symlinks now.  Out of those that aren't, 
quite a lot are Acorn-specific and can move to drivers/acorn/char.  These 
include defkeymap-acorn.c, keyb_arc.c, keyb_ps2.c and mouse_rpc.c.  The 
changes in serial.c seem benign enough that they can probably be applied to 
the generic version without too much trouble.

This leaves keyboard.c and console.c.  Both of these have scary-looking 
console related changes in and I don't know what the state of play is with 
them.  But it seems to me that even if they can't be reconciled with the 
generic versions at the moment, we could tuck them away in some hidden place 
(maybe even leave them where they are now) and drag them out with Makefile 
rules rather than having a completely separate directory tree with its own 
versions of config.in and Makefile.

What do you think?

p.


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	I'm setting up a new workstation for ARM linux development, and am
trying to use egcs 1.0.3 for cross-compiling on the RedHat 5.0 Pentium 2
system (I used gcc 2.7.2.2 the first time I did this).  It appears to
compile ok, but the build fails with the error(s) below.  Has anyone seen
this problem before?  Any advice is appreciated.

Thanks,
Chris

make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/egcs-1.0.3/gcc'
/usr/src/egcs-1.0.3/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/src/egcs-1.0.3/gcc/ -DCROSS_COMPILE -DIN_GCC    -g -O2 -I./include     -c ./libgcc1-test.c
Testing libgcc1.  Ignore linker warning messages.
/usr/src/egcs-1.0.3/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/src/egcs-1.0.3/gcc/ -DCROSS_COMPILE -DIN_GCC    -g -O2 -I./include  libgcc1-test.o -o libgcc1-test \
  -nostartfiles -nostdlib `/usr/src/egcs-1.0.3/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/src/egcs-1.0.3/gcc/ --print-libgcc-file-name`
rm -f stmp-f2c.h
case "c proto gcov  c++ f77 objc" in \
*f77*) top=`pwd`; \
src=`cd .; pwd`; \
  cd f/runtime; \
  CROSS="-DCROSS_COMPILE" AR_FLAGS="rc" AR="arm-linuxaout-ar" BISON="bison" BISONFLAGS="" CC="gcc" CFLAGS="-g -O2" X_CFLAGS="" LDFLAGS="" LEX="flex" LEXFLAGS="" MAKEINFO="/usr/src/egcs-1.0.3/texinfo/makeinfo/makeinfo " MAKEINFOFLAGS="" RANLIB="arm-linuxao
ut-ranlib" RANLIB_TEST="[ -f /usr/local/arm-linuxaout/bin/ranlib ]" SHELL="/bin/sh" exec_prefix="/usr/local" prefix="/usr/local" tooldir="/usr/local/arm-linuxaout" bindir="/usr/local/bin" libsubdir="/usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/arm-linuxaout/egcs-2.90.29" \
  CC="`case '/usr/src/egcs-1.0.3/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/src/egcs-1.0.3/gcc/' in \
     './xgcc -B./') echo ${top}/xgcc -B${top}/;; \
     *) echo '/usr/src/egcs-1.0.3/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/src/egcs-1.0.3/gcc/';; esac`" \
  CONFIG_SITE=/dev/null /bin/sh \
  ${src}/f/runtime/configure --srcdir=${src}/f/runtime ;; \
esac
loading site script /dev/null
loading cache ./config.cache
checking for gcc... /usr/src/egcs-1.0.3/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/src/egcs-1.0.3/gcc/
checking whether the C compiler (/usr/src/egcs-1.0.3/gcc/xgcc 
-B/usr/src/egcs-1.0.3/gcc/ -g -O2 ) works... no
configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot 
create executables.
make[1]: *** [stmp-f2c.h] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/egcs-1.0.3/gcc'
make: *** [all-gcc] Error 2

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>	I'm setting up a new workstation for ARM linux development, and am
>trying to use egcs 1.0.3 for cross-compiling on the RedHat 5.0 Pentium 2
>system (I used gcc 2.7.2.2 the first time I did this).  It appears to
>compile ok, but the build fails with the error(s) below.  Has anyone seen
>this problem before?  Any advice is appreciated.

At a guess you don't have the required C libraries installed to actually build 
executables at this stage.  Egcs is rather over-enthusiastic sometimes about 
building things that you don't really want - in this case the failure is in 
the Fortran part of the compiler.

p.


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>There a Debian distro in the following URL:
>
>http://www.debian.org/ports/arm/
>
>Has anybody tested it with Chalice's CATS?

Bits of it.  The CATS should be 100% compatible with the Netwinder in terms of 
userland binaries so there should be no problem.  The main difficulty 
historically has been the lack of floating point but that shouldn't be the 
case much longer.

p.


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There a Debian distro in the following URL:

http://www.debian.org/ports/arm/

Has anybody tested it with Chalice's CATS?

Greetings.
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Do you have the sequence of steps needed to load 
the Linux kernel in one of these machines? AFAIK, the
current version of the firmware won't let me boot
from an EXT2 partition, so I must put the Linux
kernel in an FFS part. I'm trying to run the kernel
but I'm unaware of the current parameters to do that
(the CATS firmware needs to "load" the image in memory
and then make a "call" to run the kernel). Do you (or
anybody in the list) know of these parameters?

Greetings, and thanks.

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Subject: Re: CATS & Debian Linux 


>There a Debian distro in the following URL:
>
>http://www.debian.org/ports/arm/
>
>Has anybody tested it with Chalice's CATS?

Bits of it.  The CATS should be 100% compatible with the Netwinder in
terms of 
userland binaries so there should be no problem.  The main difficulty 
historically has been the lack of floating point but that shouldn't be
the 
case much longer.

p.


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>Do you have the sequence of steps needed to load=20
>the Linux kernel in one of these machines? AFAIK, the

I've just had another mail about this as well.  The standard Cyclone firmware 
doesn't know about Linux kernels so you need to attach a bit of extra code to 
the front of the zImage file.  You can then load it as binary ("load <device>")
and just run it in place ("call 10000000").

I've attached the assembler source to generate this magic header.  You need to 
do something along the lines of:

$ gcc -nostdlib -nostartfiles -o bootstrap.o bootstrap.S
$ objcopy bootstrap.o bootstrap.bin

and this should leave you with a binary file exactly 32k long that you can 
just tack onto the front of the zImage with `cat' or something.

Also you probably need to take out the definitions of PARAMS_OFFSET and 
PARAMS_BASE in include/asm/arch/hardware.h - just wrap them in #if 0 or 
something similar.

Let me know how you get on.

p.

/* Minimal header for machines with no real bootloader */
	
	.text

	.globl	_start
_start:
	mov	r0, #0			@ set up args
	mov	r1, #6
	mov	r4, #0x00000000
	orr	r4, r4, #0x8000
	mov	r5, #0x130		@ turn MMU off
	mcr	p15, 0, r5, c1, c0
	mov	r0, r0			@ wait for pipeline
	mov	pc, r4			@ jump to kernel

	.align	8
	.space	0x7f00


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Can somebody who's more familiar than me with the Archimedes code explain what 
this is used for at the moment?  I'm writing a driver at the moment that will 
need FIQs to be turned off while updating the IRQ masks on both Archimedes and 
A5k machines; I'd like to understand what the existing code is doing before I 
change it. :-)

p.


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Philip Blundell writes:
> I've just noticed that there are still many character devices missing on ARM 
> systems.  Rather than try to apply ever more band-aids to the arch/arm/drivers 
> stuff to fix this up, I thought I'd see what would be involved in actually 
> getting rid of the char1 directory for good.

Unfortunately, the purpose behind this directory seems to have been forgotten -
it was put there as a test directory /for me/, but people seem to have adopted
it as their own.  It was there to allow me to evaluate the (not so good) fb
video drivers against my console driver.

I am still of the opinion that my console driver delivers better console
performance on the Acorn machines, but I decided to leave this directory there
until I managed to get this lot sorted out.

The last thing that I want to happen is for this directory to disappear, since
then I loose my testbed.

However, if someone wants to integrate this stuff into a better location, they
can always work /with/ me to do this in such a way that it is acceptable to
everyone, rather than just submitting a patch which does a major restructure
and kills this directory.

I think that some people seem to forget that the source for the patches is
my development tree, which does from time to time have bits tacked on to it.
Although it is representative of a working kernel tree, these bits normally
tack on the side and replace other bits.

This means, for example, if you find a program in my patch which tests some
particular part of the kernel, don't send me a patch to remove it.  The same
goes for marked test/development directories.

> Most of the files in here are symlinks now.  Out of those that aren't, 
> quite a lot are Acorn-specific and can move to drivers/acorn/char.  These 
> include defkeymap-acorn.c, keyb_arc.c, keyb_ps2.c and mouse_rpc.c.  The 
> changes in serial.c seem benign enough that they can probably be applied to 
> the generic version without too much trouble.

The serial.c changes aren't when they introduce bugs.

> This leaves keyboard.c and console.c.  Both of these have scary-looking 
> console related changes in and I don't know what the state of play is with 
> them.  But it seems to me that even if they can't be reconciled with the 
> generic versions at the moment, we could tuck them away in some hidden place 
> (maybe even leave them where they are now) and drag them out with Makefile 
> rules rather than having a completely separate directory tree with its own 
> versions of config.in and Makefile.

Well, seeing as I plan to (at some point) do some more major changes in that
area, it would not be a good idea to touch this at the moment.  
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>I am still of the opinion that my console driver delivers better console
>performance on the Acorn machines, but I decided to leave this directory there
>until I managed to get this lot sorted out.
>
>The last thing that I want to happen is for this directory to disappear, since
>then I loose my testbed.

No you don't.  You still get to keep your console code in arch/arm/drivers/
char and the fb-based one is still there -- it's just moved around a little so 
there's less duplication.  No functionality at all is lost.

>However, if someone wants to integrate this stuff into a better location, they
>can always work /with/ me to do this in such a way that it is acceptable to
>everyone,

OK; so how would you like to see it changed?

>This means, for example, if you find a program in my patch which tests some
>particular part of the kernel, don't send me a patch to remove it.  The same
>goes for marked test/development directories.

I have no problem with you having your own development directories in there. 
But the way things are arranged now, people who want to use the fbcon code 
have no choice but to use this "test/development" directory.

If you like, you can leave out the bits of the patch I sent that actually 
delete files from arch/arm/drivers/char1 and then you can keep your sandbox as 
well but not force others to use it.

>The serial.c changes aren't when they introduce bugs.

Which bugs do they introduce?

p.


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Philip Blundell writes:
> Can somebody who's more familiar than me with the Archimedes code explain what 
> this is used for at the moment?  I'm writing a driver at the moment that will 
> need FIQs to be turned off while updating the IRQ masks on both Archimedes and 
> A5k machines; I'd like to understand what the existing code is doing before I 
> change it. :-)

cliIF() is a call added by Dave Gilbert for MFM and floppy on the old ARC
architectures.  Allowing it to be used for A5K will probably kill the new
floppy DMA transfers.
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> >	I'm setting up a new workstation for ARM linux development, and am
> >trying to use egcs 1.0.3 for cross-compiling on the RedHat 5.0 Pentium 2
> >system (I used gcc 2.7.2.2 the first time I did this).  It appears to
> >compile ok, but the build fails with the error(s) below.  Has anyone seen
> >this problem before?  Any advice is appreciated.
> 
> At a guess you don't have the required C libraries installed to actually build 
> executables at this stage.  Egcs is rather over-enthusiastic sometimes about 
> building things that you don't really want - in this case the failure is in 
> the Fortran part of the compiler.

	That was indeed the problem; installing arm libraries from an rpm
on the arm-linux site solved the problem.

Thanks,
Chris

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during the RedHat installation the 'install bootloader' failed.
The error is: could'n find a kernel

the last lines on he console are:
F3: writing host information to ...
    running /usr/sbin/timeconfig
    creating /etc/fstab
F4: Unable to load NLS charset cp437(nls_cp437)
F5: Writing inode tables: done
    Writing superblocks and filesystem accounting: done

What's wrong???

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>cliIF() is a call added by Dave Gilbert for MFM and floppy on the old ARC
>architectures.  Allowing it to be used for A5K will probably kill the new
>floppy DMA transfers.

Are you just worried about additional latency or do you have some other 
concern on the A5k as well?  I just want to turn FIQs off for the few cycles 
in mask_irq() and unmask_irq() where the IOC registers are being updated.  
Otherwise disaster could ensue if a FIQ comes in and wants a downgrade at the 
wrong moment.  I don't think this will add more latency than we can tolerate 
but I'll do some sums to be sure.

p.


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From: Chris Sawer <chris.sawer@usa.net>
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I've just got round to downloading the latest (2.0.35) kernel sources and the
ArmLinux patch, but installing the patch was a /major/ headache. The problems
stem from the pathnames in the patch file - this is the first line:

diff -urN /mnt/src/v2.0/linux/CREDITS linux/CREDITS

Therein lies the problem - I didn't install it in /mnt/src/v2.0, which
wouldn't have been a problem if both input and output path names had been
like this:

diff -urN /mnt/src/v2.0/linux/CREDITS /mnt/src/v2.0/linux/CREDITS

In which case a simple -p4 would have stripped both pathnames down to
linux/CREDITS which would have worked. However, as only one has this long
path, doing a -p4 messed up the output file and they all ended up in strange
places. In the end, I managed to patch the kernel by removing all occurrences
of /mnt/src/v2.0/ from the patch file, but this isn't really satisfactory.

The reason I am asking this is that my webpage has a section on compiling
your own kernel and if you're a first time user, you're really not going to
want to edit patch files. Is there an option on patch I missed (I looked
through the man page) or is the patch broken?

Chris

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Hi,

when I get some time, I wanted to try to compile the ELF X11-libraries. 
This requires drastic changes in config/cf/, so I didn't do it yet. Now I 
read that there's a fb-device comming up.
Will on of the results of the fb-dev be that there'll be a "new" X11 
release "soon" ?
Thanx.


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I didn't have 'objcopy' in my system (NetBSD), but
even after compiling it and doing the steps below,
I can't boot Linux. Does anybody on the list have 
a Linux bootable image for the CATS?

(Or if I can't do it myself without bothering
anyone, I'd be grateful to know how to build it.)

Thanks.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Philip Blundell [mailto:pb@nexus.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 2:42 AM
To: Jesus Eugenio Sanchez
Cc: Hwa-Jin Bae; 'linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu'
Subject: Re: CATS & Debian Linux 


>Do you have the sequence of steps needed to load=20
>the Linux kernel in one of these machines? AFAIK, the

I've just had another mail about this as well.  The standard Cyclone
firmware 
doesn't know about Linux kernels so you need to attach a bit of extra
code to 
the front of the zImage file.  You can then load it as binary ("load
<device>")
and just run it in place ("call 10000000").

I've attached the assembler source to generate this magic header.  You
need to 
do something along the lines of:

$ gcc -nostdlib -nostartfiles -o bootstrap.o bootstrap.S
$ objcopy bootstrap.o bootstrap.bin

and this should leave you with a binary file exactly 32k long that you
can 
just tack onto the front of the zImage with `cat' or something.

Also you probably need to take out the definitions of PARAMS_OFFSET and 
PARAMS_BASE in include/asm/arch/hardware.h - just wrap them in #if 0 or 
something similar.

Let me know how you get on.

p.

/* Minimal header for machines with no real bootloader */
	
	.text

	.globl	_start
_start:
	mov	r0, #0			@ set up args
	mov	r1, #6
	mov	r4, #0x00000000
	orr	r4, r4, #0x8000
	mov	r5, #0x130		@ turn MMU off
	mcr	p15, 0, r5, c1, c0
	mov	r0, r0			@ wait for pipeline
	mov	pc, r4			@ jump to kernel

	.align	8
	.space	0x7f00


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Subject: Re: Patching 2.0.35 kernel sources
To: chris.sawer@usa.net
Date: 	Fri, 6 Nov 1998 21:13:42 +0000 (GMT)
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Chris Sawer writes:
> I've just got round to downloading the latest (2.0.35) kernel sources and the
> ArmLinux patch, but installing the patch was a /major/ headache. The problems
> stem from the pathnames in the patch file - this is the first line:
> 
> diff -urN /mnt/src/v2.0/linux/CREDITS linux/CREDITS

Patch uses the second filename only.

> Therein lies the problem - I didn't install it in /mnt/src/v2.0, which
> wouldn't have been a problem if both input and output path names had been
> like this:
> 
> diff -urN /mnt/src/v2.0/linux/CREDITS /mnt/src/v2.0/linux/CREDITS

The two filenames are not input and output, but are original and updated source,
refering to the filesystem where the patches were created.  Only the updated
source is used when deciding where to put the patch.

> In which case a simple -p4 would have stripped both pathnames down to
> linux/CREDITS which would have worked. However, as only one has this long
> path, doing a -p4 messed up the output file and they all ended up in strange
> places. In the end, I managed to patch the kernel by removing all occurrences
> of /mnt/src/v2.0/ from the patch file, but this isn't really satisfactory.

You want to cd to the kernel directory (eg, cd /usr/src/linux), and then:
zcat <patchfile> | patch -p1

> The reason I am asking this is that my webpage has a section on compiling
> your own kernel and if you're a first time user, you're really not going to
> want to edit patch files. Is there an option on patch I missed (I looked
> through the man page) or is the patch broken?

There is no need to edit the patch files...
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Subject: Re: Patching 2.0.35 kernel sources 
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>The reason I am asking this is that my webpage has a section on compiling
>your own kernel and if you're a first time user, you're really not going to
>want to edit patch files. Is there an option on patch I missed (I looked
>through the man page) or is the patch broken?

Neither.  It sounds like you either have an old version of patch or you just
used the wrong options.  Ignore the "old" filename in the patch file, it's 
only the "new" one that matters and you should use -p as appropriate to that.
Assuming your sources are in `linux' you should use -p0.

p.


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How do I configure sendmail to send to my ISP's mail server instead
of trying to resolve each address individually?  I am about to
go live with a dial-up based majordomo list, and it's taking
about 3 days to send each message.

Also, I want to find out how to check in a shell script whether
the ppp connection is active to run popclient followed by
sendmail -q followed by ppp-off.  Any ideas?

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Subject: Re: Patching 2.0.35 kernel sources
To: philb@gnu.org (Philip Blundell)
Date: 	Sat, 7 Nov 1998 09:26:38 +0000 (GMT)
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Philip Blundell writes:
> >The reason I am asking this is that my webpage has a section on compiling
> >your own kernel and if you're a first time user, you're really not going to
> >want to edit patch files. Is there an option on patch I missed (I looked
> >through the man page) or is the patch broken?
> 
> Neither.  It sounds like you either have an old version of patch or you just
> used the wrong options.  Ignore the "old" filename in the patch file, it's 
> only the "new" one that matters and you should use -p as appropriate to that.
> Assuming your sources are in `linux' you should use -p0.

Apparantly not - patch 2.5 and on which are POSIX compliant appear to use
both of them.

My recomendation is to keep an old copy of patch around (since the old patches
are going to be there for a long time), and I'm sure over time people will
create patches to accomodate the new POSIX compliant patch.

I will not be regenerating any of the patches on the FTP site, due to what I
see as an incompatable change in patch.  However, any new patches will be
patch-2.5 friendly.

I personally think that this is extremely stupid, since it effectively prevents
patches that are already out there from being applied with a new patch.  Why
didn't they do a Microsoft and change the patch style as well?  If it's one
thing that patch really /needs/ it's consistency.
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Rob Davis writes:
> How do I configure sendmail to send to my ISP's mail server instead
> of trying to resolve each address individually?  I am about to
> go live with a dial-up based majordomo list, and it's taking
> about 3 days to send each message.

If you install the sendmail-cf package, then you should find a set
of sendmail configuration files (can't remember where, but do an
rpm -ql sendmail-cf to get a list) which you can modify to produce
your configuration.

> Also, I want to find out how to check in a shell script whether
> the ppp connection is active to run popclient followed by
> sendmail -q followed by ppp-off.  Any ideas?

You want a /etc/ppp/ip-up script (this is the exact method that I use).
I would suggest checking out fetchmail first though.
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I have been trying to get the Powertec drivers working with my Quantum
Fireball ST4.3S harddisk, but when I boot the kernel with ptec support
compiled in, then the kernel goes into a "loop", when the scsi-driver is
initialising, saying something like "scsi-bus reset detected" over and over
again. Exact messages can be provided if nessecary.

I think that Quantum harddisks are generally a problem for the ptec card, as
the newer versions of the driver for Riscos crashes completely if a Quantum
og Iomega device is present on the bus. The RiscBSD version of the driver
should be working flawlessly.

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In message <48A151AFCC%janm@control.auc.dk>,
     Jan Magnussen wrote:

> I have been trying to get the Powertec drivers working with my Quantum
> Fireball ST4.3S harddisk, but when I boot the kernel with ptec support
> compiled in, then the kernel goes into a "loop", when the scsi-driver is
> initialising, saying something like "scsi-bus reset detected" over and over
> again. Exact messages can be provided if nessecary.

Try to compile a kernel where ptec support is compiled as module and use
"term=0" as insmod parameter. This works for me.

> [snip]
> 

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>Apparantly not - patch 2.5 and on which are POSIX compliant appear to use
>both of them.

I use patch 2.5 and I've never had any problems.  But I don't set 
POSIXLY_CORRECT in my environment.

p.


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In message <199811062113.VAA01592@raistlin.armlinux.org>
          Russell King - ARM Linux Admin <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> wrote:

> The two filenames are not input and output, but are original and updated
> source, refering to the filesystem where the patches were created.  Only
> the updated source is used when deciding where to put the patch.

Thanks - it was me getting confused then.

(Feeling very silly) Chris

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Hiya!

Many thanks to Timothy Baldwin for pointing out the horrible bug in IscaFS
0.05, in which large files (approx 65meg and above) would cause horrible
aborts.  With his help, I managed to track the bug down, and discovered I was
using the wrong register (r2 instead of r8) in a single instruction.  Ho-hum.

The new version is available from my web page.

Cheers,
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Hi Folks,, and Russell

Can anyone tell me PRECISELY (with first hand knowledge!!) which tars and

patches, in what order, are required
to build a compiler suitable for compiling the linux-2.1.126 source tree
for ARM?

Russell says we need a compiler with elf extensions... is it available as
a RPM?

I have tried gcc-2.7.2.2 from ftp.gnu.org, patched with either of the
source patches
from the armlinux tools page, and in both cases get a failure in
compiling/linking
toplev.c.. 3 missing labels..  referring to finalise_pic, (something
else)_pic and
arm_movsi.. (or similar)

Any help appreciated.. even better would be appropriate executables..
for  SARPC, IDEhd

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Hi Folks

Still no joy attempting to compile the 2.1.126 kernel.. I've taken the 
source tree from ftp.kernel.org, and patched it from the most recent
armlinux
pre-patch-2.1.126 patch. All goes OK till it looks for an 
arm-unknown-elf gcc compiler.. Where and how do I find one?

(currently running 2.0.31 kernel... and RPMs from the May developer CD)
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In message <48A1AEDB07%voss@yoda.in-berlin.de>
          Stefan Voss <voss@yoda.in-berlin.de> wrote:

> Try to compile a kernel where ptec support is compiled as module and use
> "term=0" as insmod parameter. This works for me.

hmmm. Same result. The driver works if I disconnect the Quantum drive, but I
have to use this disc, so removing it is not an option.

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>Can anyone tell me PRECISELY (with first hand knowledge!!) which tars and
>patches, in what order, are required
>to build a compiler suitable for compiling the linux-2.1.126 source tree
>for ARM?

Look through the mailing list archives.  I've posted this information many 
times and I think it's in Russell's FAQ as well.

p.



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John Ballance wrote:
> Can anyone tell me PRECISELY (with first hand knowledge!!) which tars and
> patches, in what order, are required
> to build a compiler suitable for compiling the linux-2.1.126 source tree
> for ARM?

Maybe the description for building a cross-compiler (host: i386-linux,
target: arm-linux-elf) that compiles 2.1.125 is useful. It's on
ftp://lrcftp.epfl.ch/pub/people/almesber/psion/xdev-0.README

There are also pre-compiled binaries for that cross-compiler. Note that
they expect to reside at a somewhat unusual location (/scratch/psion/xdev).

Finally, this has only been tested for kernels and stand-alone programs.
I don't have the slightest idea what happens if you add any type of libc
to the equation.

- Werner

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Jan Magnussen writes:
> Stefan Voss <voss@yoda.in-berlin.de> wrote:
> > Try to compile a kernel where ptec support is compiled as module and use
> > "term=0" as insmod parameter. This works for me.
> 
> hmmm. Same result. The driver works if I disconnect the Quantum drive, but I
> have to use this disc, so removing it is not an option.

What exactly is this Quantum drive (model number, s/w revision etc).  RISC OS
*devices line will do.

I could (soonish) try my Quantum Fireball 1GB on the PTEC, but I think it'll
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I installed ARMLinux on both of my RiscPCs. They are connected together
via i-cubed EtherLAN602 combo cards. Now I "just" need to know, how to
set things up, so that it works.

I can "ping localhost", but I can't "ping <ip-address>" or "ping
<host-name>". So I edited /etc/hosts so that my two IP addresses and
both host names are entered. Didn't help so far.

Then I tried "ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1" but I only get an error
telling "SCIOIFADDR not found" or similar (sorry, forgot to write down
the exact message :-/ ).

What am I doing wrong?

Please tell me - step by step - which file needs editing and what
should go where.

TIA!

Greetings,

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I've installed ARMLinux on my two RiscPC. I can start it with 

ADFS::4.$.ARMLinux.!Linux -bootkernel ADFS::4.$.ARMLinux.rpc

but then I have to enter "root=/dev/hda3" when I'm asked for additinal
arguments. I don't manage to start the !Linux application without
getting an error.

Here's what I get:

Press alt to access boot loader

Kernel Loader v3.30 (Sep 27 1998 09:32:58)
(c) 1995-1998 Russell King (rmk@arm.uk.linux.org)

*** assertion failed: ldr_menu.entries != 0, file c.ldr, line 51
Unexpected termination (e.g. abort() function)

Postmortem requested
39f6940 in shared library function
39f69e4 in shared library function
39f8918 in shared library function
aa8c in function ldr_runmenu
  Arg2: 0x0001b188 110984 -> [0x0001b1a4 0x0001b1ca 0x0001b1d2
0x00000000]
  Arg1: 0x00000003 3
8f50 in function main
3a15f10 in unknown procedure

This is with both, a StrongARMed RiscPC and a ARM710-RiscPC. And with
all !Linux loaders from v3.21 onwards. And is the same whether starting
in my "normal" desktop environment or after a Shift-booted desktop.

If I start up using

ADFS::4.$.ARMLinux.!Linux -bootkernel ADFS::4.$.ARMLinux.rpc

which works, then I have the problem that everytime I get the message
"/dev/hda3 already mounted. Are you sure you want to continue (y/n)?"
or similar message. I tried to shutdown with

sync
shutdown -r now

But this doesn't help either.

Please tell me what is wrong in my setup. Otherwise the rest of the
Linux things - when started - work ok.

TIA!

Greetings,

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Hi folks

Philip Blundell said.. see the faq for the tools to compile the source
tree..
the arm linux faq said use binutils-2.9.1.0.15 and egcs-1.1.. get patches
from vger...

SO.. I got the binutils-2.9.1 tar gz from gnu.org, and the patches .14
and .15
from the vger site
I also got egcs-1.1 (C-only) from the sunsite mirror of the egcs site,
and patches 1.1b
from the vger site

NEITHER WOULD COMPILE...
1. binutils:  applying either patch complains about missing changelog
files,
and also about missing aoutarm32.c and elf32-arm.c files.. IS THIS
CORRECT?

configured binutils in another directory.. the only target it will
configure for
(without bfd configure complaining) is arm-unknown-aout.. no elf there..
IS
THIS CORRECT

tried to 'make' it. It failed trying to compile bfd/aout-arm.c
with FD_RELOC_ARM .. _GOT12, _GOT32, _GOTPC, and _JUMP_SLOT 
all undeclared.. no build.. WHATS WRONG???

3. egcs: this patched OK and configured (in another dir) for
arm-unknown-elf OK

tried 'make bootstrap' as the readme suggested.. it failed trying to
compile
gcc/gencodes.c reporting SYNTAX ERROR in gcc/config/arm/elf.h :407:
'syntax error before extern'

similar failure was seen trying the aout version..

Am I going about things correctly, or am I making a fundamental error???
Any help appreciated...
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I am not sure if my problem is the same as Stefan's, but I am too unable
to boot into Linux after installing it:

I have been installing Linux on my RPC 600, 41Mb, 1.7Gb HD, 32X CDROM. 
After a few attempts, I have installed all of the RPMs, and get to the
stage where the installer cannot find the kernel.  Then following the
instructions in the FAQ, I Alt-F2, and /mnt/bin/sync, which gets a brief
whirr from my hard drive.

When I try to reboot from the command line as in the FAQ, and type
root=/dev/hda3 at the extra commands, it starts to boot from the hard
disc fine, but then encounters an error which locks the entire computer,
requiring a Ctrl-Reset to reboot.  The error is as follows :

INIT:Version 2.64 booting
Bad mode in prefetch abort handler detected:mode SVC-32
Internal error : Oops : 0
CPU : 0
<Register dump>
Code : PC not in code space

I have tried running the install program again, with just the minimal
install to save time, but I still get the same problem.  I have been
very careful to follow all the instructions and still it does not work. 
What should I do now?

Any help would be much appreciated, as I am at a dead end.

Thanks

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>the arm linux faq said use binutils-2.9.1.0.15 and egcs-1.1.. get patches
>from vger...
>
>SO.. I got the binutils-2.9.1 tar gz from gnu.org, and the patches .14
>and .15 from the vger site

That's not right.  You need to get binutils-2.9.1.0.15 from tsx-11.mit.edu 
(there is a patch relative to 2.9.1 there) and *then* apply the latest patch 
from vger on top.

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>Did I go to the right place for egcs?

It sounds like it, yes.

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hi.. thanks for the reply
I'll go there and try again for binutils...

Did I go to the right place for egcs?

Thanks

John
On Tue, 10 Nov, Philip Blundell  wrote:
> >the arm linux faq said use binutils-2.9.1.0.15 and egcs-1.1.. get patches
> >from vger...
> >
> >SO.. I got the binutils-2.9.1 tar gz from gnu.org, and the patches .14
> >and .15 from the vger site
> 
> That's not right.  You need to get binutils-2.9.1.0.15 from tsx-11.mit.edu 
> (there is a patch relative to 2.9.1 there) and *then* apply the latest
patch
> 
from vger on top.
> 
> p.
> 
> 

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	I recently managed to get egcs built without errors for
arm-linuxaout.  The solution to the libgcc and header file problems was to
download arm-aout-libs-devel-4_6_27-1a6_arm.rpm from the ARM ftp site and
manually install the libraries and header files it contains from a
temporary ARM system tree.  It took a few tries to get everything in the
right place, but now it works flawlessly.  NOTE: be careful extracting
files from that rpm!  If rpm puts them where it wants you'll trash your
native compiler.

Chris

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John Ballance wrote:
> NEITHER WOULD COMPILE...
> 1. binutils:  applying either patch complains about missing changelog
> files,

You may want to try
ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/GCC/binutils-2.9.1.0.15.tar.gz
(see also my previous posting.)

I built cross-binutils with it for arm-linux (no idea if arm-whatever-elf
works too), without even the slightest problems.

egcs may be a different story, because the build process is clearly
different for cross-compilers and native compilers.

- Werner

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Hi ppl,

Further to my brief wails about X not running in 256 colours on my
A5000...

I followed Melanie's comments about my X server being incorrectly set up,
so I downloaded and installed the following rpms in the hope it would do
some good :-
X11-6.0-1a3.arm.rpm
X11-utils-6.0-1a3.arm.rpm
arm-aout-libs-4.6.27-1a6.arm.rpm
arm-x11-aout-libs-1.0-1.arm.rpm

I then tried startx having set 'setmodeold' to start linux in mode 21.

It did the same as always, and blanked the screen irreversibly.

I then tried startx & > x_diag.txt once in mode 20 and once in mode 21...

Both times they replied the same information (except about the bpp). This
leads me to believe that X _is_ starting up (it sounds that way from my
HD :-) but it won't show.

_If_ my X server is corrupt/set up wrong, what else can I do to rectify
this? Are there any rpms which I should reinstall to be sure, or is there
a specific file regarding X Server setup that I need to edit in some way?

I would appreciate any help, because I can't think of anything else to
try. If you would like more details please ask.

cheers,

dooby

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I tried to load Linux this afternoon myself (on a StrongARMed RiscPC)
and got exactly the same error. I was going to try again tonight, but
seeing you got the same error I'll wait to see if you get a reply.
We must be doing the same thing wrong.

Cheers.
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Stefan Bellon writes:
> Then I tried "ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1" but I only get an error
> telling "SCIOIFADDR not found" or similar (sorry, forgot to write down
> the exact message :-/ ).

Ok, here's a set of questions:

1. Are you using one of the pre-built kernels on the FTP site?

2. Have you loaded the 8390 and etherh modules?

3. What kernel messages do you have (try grep 'eth0' /var/log/messages).

4. What happens if you 'ifconfig eth0' on it's own?
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On Tue, 10 Nov 1998, Philip Blundell wrote:

> >the arm linux faq said use binutils-2.9.1.0.15 and egcs-1.1.. get patches
> >from vger...
> >
> >SO.. I got the binutils-2.9.1 tar gz from gnu.org, and the patches .14
> >and .15 from the vger site
> 
> That's not right.  You need to get binutils-2.9.1.0.15 from tsx-11.mit.edu 
> (there is a patch relative to 2.9.1 there) and *then* apply the latest patch 
> from vger on top.
> 
	In my recent experience with all this. binutils with the tsx
compiled with i think no major hassels on a alpha osf1 and pentium linux
boxes. egcs with phils patch also worked (but took some evil header file
hacking to get libgcc up) and thats all i've been able to get going. Both
glibc and the 2.0.35 kernel of Nico's have been quite troublesum.
	Any pointers to an appropriate libc for standalone elf and linux
elf?

	Cheers Adam

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From: John Ballance <jwb@castle-technology.co.uk>
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Subject: egcs still no compile.. binutils OK, thanks
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Hi folks, especially Philip B

Thanks all for your help with binutils.. Following the post from Philip, 
I fetched the version he specified, patched it, and it built first time..

Thanks again

egcs-1.1b, is still nogo

I enclose a screen dump of a further attempt at 'make bootstrap'. It
fails at the first
'extern' keyword in 'elf.h'. if that is commented out, then it fails at
the first 'extern'
in arm.h, the next header read...

egcs is from ftp.egcs.cygnus.com. patch applied is from vger site as
indicated
in the faq

(Philip.. I note your name on this code...)

attempt 1: first build
Merged arm/t-bare.
Created jc/Makefile'.
gcc -c  -DIN_GCC    -g  -DHAVE_CONFIG_H     -I. -I../../../egcs-1.1b/gcc
-I../../../egcs-1.1b/gcc/config ../../../egcs-1.1b/gcc/gencodes.c
In file included from tm.h:2,
                 from ../../../egcs-1.1b/gcc/config/arm/xm-arm.h:54,
                 from hconfig.h:2,
                 from ../../../egcs-1.1b/gcc/gencodes.c:25:
./../../egcs-1.1b/gcc/config/arm/elf.h:407: syntax error before
'extern' make[4]: *** [gencodes.o] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory /usr/src/bin/arm-egcs-elf/gcc'
make[3]: *** [stmp-multilib-sub] Error 2
make[3]: Leaving directory /usr/src/bin/arm-egcs-elf/gcc'
make[2]: *** [stmp-multilib] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory /usr/src/bin/arm-egcs-elf/gcc'
make[1]: *** [bootstrap] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory /usr/src/bin/arm-egcs-elf/gcc'
make: *** [bootstrap] Error 2
[root@localhost]$


attempt 2: rebuild
make bootstrap
make[1]: Entering directory /usr/src/bin/arm-egcs-elf/libiberty'
make[1]: Leaving directory /usr/src/bin/arm-egcs-elf/libiberty'
make[1]: Entering directory /usr/src/bin/arm-egcs-elf/texinfo'
make all-recursive
make[2]: Entering directory /usr/src/bin/arm-egcs-elf/texinfo'
Making all in intl
make[3]: Entering directory /usr/src/bin/arm-egcs-elf/texinfo/intl'
make[3]: Nothing to be done for ll'. make[3]: Leaving directory
/usr/src/bin/arm-egcs-elf/texinfo/intl'
Making all in lib
make[3]: Entering directory /usr/src/bin/arm-egcs-elf/texinfo/lib'
make[3]: Nothing to be done for ll'. make[3]: Leaving directory
/usr/src/bin/arm-egcs-elf/texinfo/lib'
Making all in makeinfo
make[3]: Entering directory /usr/src/bin/arm-egcs-elf/texinfo/makeinfo'
make[3]: Nothing to be done for ll'. make[3]: Leaving directory
/usr/src/bin/arm-egcs-elf/texinfo/makeinfo'
make[2]: Leaving directory /usr/src/bin/arm-egcs-elf/texinfo'
make[1]: Leaving directory /usr/src/bin/arm-egcs-elf/texinfo'
Bootstrapping the compiler
make[1]: Entering directory /usr/src/bin/arm-egcs-elf/gcc'
make CC="gcc" libdir=/usr/local/lib LANGUAGES="c "
make[2]: Entering directory /usr/src/bin/arm-egcs-elf/gcc'
gcc  -DIN_GCC    -g  -DHAVE_CONFIG_H     -I. -I../../../egcs-1.1b/gcc
-I../../../egcs-1.1b/gcc/config \
-DPREFIX=\"/usr/local\" \
  -c echo ../../../egcs-1.1b/gcc/prefix.c | sed 's,^\./,,'
   In file included from tm.h:2,
                 from ../../../egcs-1.1b/gcc/config/arm/xm-arm.h:54,
                 from config.h:2,
                 from ../../../egcs-1.1b/gcc/prefix.c:66:
./../../egcs-1.1b/gcc/config/arm/elf.h:407: syntax error before 'extern'
make[2]: *** [prefix.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory /usr/src/bin/arm-egcs-elf/gcc'
make[1]: *** [bootstrap] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory /usr/src/bin/arm-egcs-elf/gcc'
make: *** [bootstrap] Error 2


Any thoughts appreciated
-- 
                      John Ballance
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Suffolk UK IP13 9LL  Tel  44 (0) 1728 621 631, Fax  44 (0) 1728 621 179
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In message <199811092259.WAA01671@raistlin.armlinux.org>
          Russell King - ARM Linux Admin <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> wrote:

> What exactly is this Quantum drive (model number, s/w revision etc).  RISC OS
> *devices line will do.

Device Type              Capacity    Vendor   Product          Rev  Level
3      Direct Access        4 GBytes QUANTUM  FIREBALL ST4.3S  0F0C SCSI-2

> I could (soonish) try my Quantum Fireball 1GB on the PTEC, but I think it'll
> be ok.

Actually. I have been talking to Alsystems, and they say, that it is a
general problem with all Quantum disks, which they are currently looking into
it. They also claim that Iomega SCSI devices have the same problem.

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2 + 2 = 5 for extremely large values of 2.

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>	Any pointers to an appropriate libc for standalone elf and linux
>elf?

The latest glibc 2.1 prerelease (currently 2.0.100).  No promises about 
standalone ELF but Linux and standalone a.out both work so it should only take 
a small amount of hacking.

That said, for a standalone configuration you might prefer newlib in any case.

p.



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>I enclose a screen dump of a further attempt at 'make bootstrap'. It
>fails at the first
>'extern' keyword in 'elf.h'. if that is commented out, then it fails at
>the first 'extern'
>in arm.h, the next header read...

I think this has come up before and turned out to be due to some bogus thing 
that had got into the config.h file somehow.  I've never managed to reproduce 
it though.

I think that if you run that through the preprocessor (gcc -E) you'll probably 
find that before the "extern" where it's dying there's something of the form 
@FOO@ in the file (possibly quite a long way before with lots of whitespace 
in).  If you find out where that's coming from and prevent it, it will 
probably work.

p.


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How about, if it is so difficult, someone putting up a binary
distribution. I've not got round to trying it yet, my flatmate has
borrowed my zip drive with it on, but if you want to send me it I'll
happily post it on my web pages. I can finally update them!!!


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Subject: Re: Powertec scsi-II with a quantum harddisk
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Jan Magnussen writes:
> Actually. I have been talking to Alsystems, and they say, that it is a
> general problem with all Quantum disks, which they are currently looking into
> it. They also claim that Iomega SCSI devices have the same problem.

I've just tried my Quantum drive on the PTEC SCSI card, and it seems to work
fine:

  Vendor: QUANTUM   Model: FIREBALL1080S     Rev: 1Q09
  Type:   Direct-Access                      ANSI SCSI revision: 02

I therefore will require the exact messages that the SCSI driver issues.
Would it be possible for you to do some debugging?  I can let you know
exactly what to do.
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Subject: Re: Linux Loader Problem (2)
To: ee6dflg@bath.ac.uk (Damian Le Gresley)
Date: 	Wed, 11 Nov 1998 22:31:37 +0000 (GMT)
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Damian Le Gresley writes:
> When I try to reboot from the command line as in the FAQ, and type
> root=/dev/hda3 at the extra commands, it starts to boot from the hard
> disc fine, but then encounters an error which locks the entire computer,
> requiring a Ctrl-Reset to reboot.  The error is as follows :
> 
> INIT:Version 2.64 booting
> Bad mode in prefetch abort handler detected:mode SVC-32
> Internal error : Oops : 0
> CPU : 0
> <Register dump>
> Code : PC not in code space

Although I am not answering this mail directly, I hope that this will point
you in the correct direction in order to solve it.

This problem is asked here quite regularly.  This is a common problem when
installing from an out of date distribution on a machine with more than 16MB
of RAM.  As such, it falls into the 'FAQ' capture range.  Indeed, several
months ago it was added to the very FAQ on my web site.  I shall quote from
the FAQ:

* I've just installed my system, but I can't log in!  I type in the password,
  and it returns me to the login prompt.
  Also, see this entry if you get an error similar to 'Bad mode in prefetch
  abort handler detected' as well as a register dump with the PC at around
  0xc40xxxxx.

Now, since you have not provided the register dump, I cannot confirm that this
is indeed the case using that.  However, since I have very intricate knowledge
of the way ARM Linux works, I can say that this is the problem.

If you look at the FAQ and locate this question, the answer will provide all
the information that you require to fix the problem, including a way of
getting your installation to boot correctly as is.

I hope this email helps you track down the problem.  If, however, you are
still unable to fix the problem, and you provide information about your
hardware setup, which versions/where you got your distribution from and so
forth, then I can provide further assistance.
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Help!

I'm trying to establish a new Linux partition on a 3.2Gb Fireball.

I format the disc (half for RISCOS) using first HForm 2.47 under ADFS
and later on the APLD IDEFS, in both cases !Partman 1.11 and the
1.13(7) alpha fail to create the required partition.

I've read the FAQ & install notes but can't make further progress.

Has anyone who has recently installed the system give me any tips?

John

-- 
John Wilson 
http://www.jwok.demon.co.uk
from a StrongARM powered Acorn Risc PC

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On Wed, 11 Nov 1998, Philip Blundell wrote:

> >	Any pointers to an appropriate libc for standalone elf and linux
> >elf?
> 
> The latest glibc 2.1 prerelease (currently 2.0.100).  No promises about 
> standalone ELF but Linux and standalone a.out both work so it should only take 
> a small amount of hacking.
> 
> That said, for a standalone configuration you might prefer newlib in any case.

	I had a quick look at newlib, didn't seem to have any instructions
and just said 'nothing to do for all' when i tried to make it after
running configure. Is anyone actively working on glibc arm-linuxelf?

	Cheers Adam

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>Is anyone actively working on glibc arm-linuxelf?

I look after it mostly.

p.


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In article <Marcel-1.42-1112000037-b49DbL8@jwok.demon.co.uk>,
   John Wilson <jwilson@jwok.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> Help!

> I'm trying to establish a new Linux partition on a 3.2Gb Fireball.

> I format the disc (half for RISCOS) using first HForm 2.47 under ADFS
> and later on the APLD IDEFS, in both cases !Partman 1.11 and the
> 1.13(7) alpha fail to create the required partition.

> I've read the FAQ & install notes but can't make further progress.

> Has anyone who has recently installed the system give me any tips?

> John

I had this problem when I sized the RISCOS partition by reducing the
number of heads in the Hform dialogue.  I changed to reducing the
number of cylinders and it worked.
HTH, John

-- 

   John Guthrie         j.m.guthrie@argonet.co.uk
   Aberdeen

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Hi,

I'm not able to get the arm linux installed on my system.

I've got an RiscPc 600 with 32 MB Ram, 2 MB VRam 2 IDE discs the primary 
with 500MB, the secondary with 4,3GB, a Powertec SCSI controler with a 
CDRom, a 500 MB harddisc, a Syquest drive and a scanner connected. The last 
thing connected to my system is a ZIP-drive to the parallel port.

I've created the linux partitions on my secondary IDEdisc without any 
problems. But I was not able to install the linux system on these 
partitions.

I've tried to install linux from the zip drive, but the system not even 
recogniced the drive. I've tried several base addresses for the parallel 
port but nothing happend. How can I find out the right base address on my 
system?
The installation procedure is also not able to address my scsi card, so I'm 
not able to install from CDRom.

Has anyone any idea what is going wrong, or what I am doing wrong?

Please give me advise to get the linux installed on my RiscPc.


Bernhard Morell

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Hi,

I put some notes about building the toolchain for ARM systems in general (and 
Linux in particular) at

	http://www.tazenda.demon.co.uk/arm-tools.html

Hopefully this will provide a bit more detail than Russell's FAQ for people 
who are having trouble.  As ever it's probably crawling with errors so let me 
know of any you find.

p.


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On Thu, 12 Nov 1998, morell wrote:

: I've created the linux partitions on my secondary IDEdisc without any 
: problems. But I was not able to install the linux system on these 
: partitions.

As I understood things (I installed v. recently), you need to use the
master IDE disc on the Acorn IDE interface...

: I've tried to install linux from the zip drive, but the system not even 
: recogniced the drive. I've tried several base addresses for the parallel 
: port but nothing happend. How can I find out the right base address on my 
: system?
: The installation procedure is also not able to address my scsi card, so I'm 
: not able to install from CDRom.

You mean you can use a slave drive?  Shit - I would've preferred doing
things that way...


Nigel
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Hi,

Yesterday evening something strange happened while I was tinkering with Linux
that you might want to know about.

I'm installing Linux from floppies. I only have net access at the Uni and have
no CDROM, so even though the FAQ says that it can't be done, I'm trying all the
same. Now, using Paul Vigay's instructions and the FAQ for hints on how to do
it, I get pretty far. I transferred a number of RPMs successfully to
/RedHat/RPMS on /dev/hdb3 (I use a 2nd HD to put Linux on). I also succeeded in
un-tarring base.tar to create /RedHat/base.

But now I get to instimage.tar. It's too big for one floppy, so I gzipped it
and split it over 2 disks, using 'split' in HP-UX to create 2 files, 'xaa'
and 'xab'. I tested the procedure I had in mind by typing 'cat xa* > test'.
This gave me a file 'test' identical to 'instimage.tar.gz' so I was all right
(I thought).

However, when trying this at home (I copied the files from the floppies to my
normal ADFS harddisk and typed 'cat /adfs/linux/xa* > instimage.tar.gz' in
Linux), 'cat' died horribly, displaying some junk and then the following
post-morten somewhere randomly on the screen (mid-character even):

Internal error: Oops: 2 CPU: 0
pc : [<c00d8230>]
lr : [<c00bdee0>]
sp : c0d39e1c  ip : 00000000  fp : c0d39e40
r10: 00000000  r9 : 00000000  r8 : 00000000
r7 : 00000000  r6 : 00000000  r5 : 00000000  r4 : 00000000
r3 : 00000000  r2 : 0005c0e0  r1 : d7fff000  r0 : d8000900
Flags: nzCv  IRQs on  FIQs on  Mode SVC_32
Process cat (pid: 38, stackpage=c0d39000)
Stack:
Backtrace:
Function entered at [<c00d7fdc>] from [<c00bdee0>]
Function entered at [<c00bdd48>] from [<c00ab2d8>]
Function entered at [<c00ab28c>] from [<c00aca54>]
Function entered at [<c00abf34>] from [<c00acf30>]
Function entered at [<c00acd04>] from [<c00bac00>]
Function entered at [<c00bab7c>] from [<c00bae04>]
Function entered at [<c00badc8>] from [<c00c2b54>]
Function entered at [<c00c29dc>] from [<c00aec28>]
Function entered at [<c00aeb0c>] from [<c002d980>]
Function entered at [<c002d7ac>] from [<c00d69c4>]
Code: e2522014 ba000003 e93113f8 e92013f8 e2522020

I couldn't type anymore, ALT+Fx didn't work. Only CTRL+ALT+DEL did. I wrote the
pm down on a piece of paper, from which I've just copied it. Trying to reboot
with "Extra arguments: root=/dev/hdb3" results in a message "unable to open
initial console".

Because I had no time to boot from the installation floppies (again *sigh*) I
have not been able to try and reproduce the problem. Still, I'm curious about
what is happening, so I decided to report the post-mortem on the mailing list.

Hope anyone can tell me what exactly is going wrong.

'bye,

Mark Koek
mkoek@wi.leidenuniv.nl
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In message <199811130826.DAA22028@artemis.wi.leidenuniv.nl>
          "M.B.J.Koek" <mkoek@wi.leidenuniv.nl> wrote:

> But now I get to instimage.tar. It's too big for one floppy, so I gzipped
> it and split it over 2 disks, using 'split' in HP-UX to create 2 files,
> 'xaa' and 'xab'. I tested the procedure I had in mind by typing 'cat xa* >
> test'. This gave me a file 'test' identical to 'instimage.tar.gz' so I was
> all right (I thought).
> 
> However, when trying this at home (I copied the files from the floppies to
> my normal ADFS harddisk and typed 'cat /adfs/linux/xa* > instimage.tar.gz'
> in Linux), 'cat' died horribly, displaying some junk and then the following
> post-morten somewhere randomly on the screen (mid-character even):

This is because cat, or the shell, or something doesn't work properly from
the boot discs, so instead of redirecting whatever you try to cat to a file,
it will splat it all over your console.  You'll need a program (join?) to put
the files back together for you.  A very simple C program would do it, but
unfortunately I don't have a linux-arm system anymore, so someone else will
have to provide it.

Phil
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Well thanks for the tip Russell - once I typed mem=16M in at the
startup, it booted into Linux first time, and now I have the new modules
installed, it works fine.  All I have to do not is to work out how to
use Linux properly!!

X worked first time, but I am unable to run many programs from fvwm.  I
have also tried running them from the command line, but I get the same
problem - file or directory does not exist.  The strange thing is that
all the paths seem to be correct, and the programs are there in the
directory taking up space - does anyone know why they will not run.

The list of programs that do not work include control-panel, and most of
the programs in /usr/bin.

Thanks

Damian
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Third Year Electrical and Electronic Engineering Student
At Bath University
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Matthew Godbolt wrote:

>Just idly tried reading your new WWpage - I don't know if demon are
>being a bit shambly and taking their alleged 24 hours to cycle pages to
>the outside world, but at the moment (10:30am) I'm getting this:

I wrote:

>> 	http://www.tazenda.demon.co.uk/arm-tools.html

Curses, I got the URL wrong.  The correct one is:

	http://www.tazenda.demon.co.uk/phil/arm-tools.html

Sorry

p.


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On Thu, 12 Nov 1998 22:10:54, Philip Blundell wrote:
>
> I put some notes about building the toolchain for ARM systems in general (and
> Linux in particular) at
> 	http://www.tazenda.demon.co.uk/arm-tools.html


This seems an excellent candidate for the Other Sites page of the ARM
Linux web site (in addition to the general link to tazenda.demon).

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M.B.J.Koek writes:
> Yesterday evening something strange happened while I was tinkering with Linux
> that you might want to know about.

Indeed.  I'm always interested in bugs.

>...
> Linux), 'cat' died horribly, displaying some junk and then the following
> post-morten somewhere randomly on the screen (mid-character even):
> 
> Internal error: Oops: 2 CPU: 0
> pc : [<c00d8230>]
> lr : [<c00bdee0>]
> sp : c0d39e1c  ip : 00000000  fp : c0d39e40
> r10: 00000000  r9 : 00000000  r8 : 00000000
> r7 : 00000000  r6 : 00000000  r5 : 00000000  r4 : 00000000
> r3 : 00000000  r2 : 0005c0e0  r1 : d7fff000  r0 : d8000900
> Flags: nzCv  IRQs on  FIQs on  Mode SVC_32
> Process cat (pid: 38, stackpage=c0d39000)
> Stack:
> Backtrace:
> Function entered at [<c00d7fdc>] from [<c00bdee0>]
> Function entered at [<c00bdd48>] from [<c00ab2d8>]
> Function entered at [<c00ab28c>] from [<c00aca54>]
> Function entered at [<c00abf34>] from [<c00acf30>]
> Function entered at [<c00acd04>] from [<c00bac00>]
> Function entered at [<c00bab7c>] from [<c00bae04>]
> Function entered at [<c00badc8>] from [<c00c2b54>]
> Function entered at [<c00c29dc>] from [<c00aec28>]
> Function entered at [<c00aeb0c>] from [<c002d980>]
> Function entered at [<c002d7ac>] from [<c00d69c4>]
> Code: e2522014 ba000003 e93113f8 e92013f8 e2522020

Unfortunately, this is next to useless since you didn't say which version of the
kernel you're using.  However, through some devious means (using grep), I think
(though I'm not 100% sure) that you're using the 2.0.31-1997.11.15 kernel.

This kernel is rather old, as are the root and supplemental disks.  I would
suggest trying again with the latest 2.0.35 kernel.
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Hi folks

I thought I'd report my efforts so far attempting to compile egcs-1.1b
for arm
(make bootstrap)
a) line 120 of gcc/config.in needs commenting out.. this says..TOP , and
causes
a later extern to fail.

b) gcc/include/unistd.h needs __linux__ defined.. where *SHOULD* this
occur?

c) later, when doing stage 1, /usr/include/crt0 is reported as having an 
unreadable format I guess this suggests I need some other later
libraries..

what ones? and from where?.. any help appreciated.

for thise such as Philip, or Russell, who will understand these, I
enclose
fragments of the various compile failures


Thanks


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make[3]: Entering directory /usr/src/bin/arm-egcs-elf/gcc'
rm -f libgcc2.a
if [ -d . ]; then \
  cd .; \
  rm -f libgcc.a ; \
else true; \
fi
make GCC_FOR_TARGET="./xgcc -B./" \
  AR="ar" AR_FLAGS="rc" CC="gcc" CFLAGS="-g" \
  HOST_PREFIX="" HOST_PREFIX_1="loser-" \
  LANGUAGES="c " \
  LIBGCC2_CFLAGS="-O2   -DIN_GCC    -g -I./include   -g1  -DIN_LIBGCC2
-D__GCC_FLOAT_NOT_NEEDED   " libgcc2.a
make[4]: Entering directory /usr/src/bin/arm-egcs-elf/gcc'
rm -f tmplibgcc2.a
for name in _muldi3 _divdi3 _moddi3 _udivdi3 _umoddi3 _negdi2 _lshrdi3
_ashldi3 _ashrdi3 _ffsdi2 _udiv_w_sdiv _udivmoddi4 _cmpdi2 _ucmpdi2
_floatdidf _floatdisf _fixunsdfsi _fixunssfsi _fixunsdfdi _fixdfdi
_fixunssfdi _fixsfdi _fixxfdi _fixunsxfdi _floatdixf _fixunsxfsi _fixtfdi
_fixunstfdi _floatditf __gcc_bcmp _varargs __dummy _eprintf _bb _shtab
_clear_cache _trampoline __main _exit _ctors _pure; \
do \
  echo ${name}; \
  ./xgcc -B./ -O2   -DIN_GCC    -g -I./include   -g1  -DIN_LIBGCC2
-D__GCC_FLOAT_NOT_NEEDED    -I. -I../../../egcs-1.1b/gcc
-I../../../egcs-1.1b/gcc/config -c -DL${name} \
      ../../../egcs-1.1b/gcc/libgcc2.c -o ${name}.o; \
  if [ $? -eq 0 ] ; then true; else exit 1; fi; \
  ar rc tmplibgcc2.a ${name}.o; \
  rm -f ${name}.o; \
done
_muldi3
In file included from ../../../egcs-1.1b/gcc/libgcc2.c:42:
include/unistd.h:136: parse error before __llseek'
include/unistd.h:136: parse error before __loff_t'
include/unistd.h:136: warning: data definition has no type or storage class
include/unistd.h:137: parse error before _lseek'
include/unistd.h:137: parse error before __loff_t'
include/unistd.h:137: warning: data definition has no type or storage class
make[4]: *** [libgcc2.a] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory /usr/src/bin/arm-egcs-elf/gcc'
make[3]: *** [stmp-multilib-sub] Error 2
make[3]: Leaving directory /usr/src/bin/arm-egcs-elf/gcc'
make[2]: *** [stmp-multilib] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory /usr/src/bin/arm-egcs-elf/gcc'
make[1]: *** [bootstrap] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory /usr/src/bin/arm-egcs-elf/gcc'
make: *** [bootstrap] Error 2
 the file unistd.h needs __linux__ defined before including gnu/types.h,
else the __loff_t type isnt defined

so.. how do I persuade the 'make bootstrap' process to 
have  __linux__ defined?

(obviously I can patch unistd.h for this, BUT, that
must then be done each time I rebuild the tree..)


next failure...

stage1/xgcc -Bstage1/
-DIN_GCC    -O2 -g  -DHAVE_CONFIG_H   -o cccp cccp.o cexp.o prefix.o \
  version.o obstack.o
/usr/lib/crt0.o: file not recognized: File format not recognized
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[1]: *** [cccp] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory /usr/src/bin/arm-egcs-elf/gcc'
make: *** [bootstrap] Error 2

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Hello,
I want to run Linux on my PSION 5.

For a support of this porting, I'm writing now PSION 5 simulator for
Linux (Redhat 5.2, i686).
In this time I'm writing ARM7110 core (in C/C++).
If you want to join this project, write me please.

Karel

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I've been trying to compile bzip2 in order try to slow the flow of money from
my pocket to BT's.
It seems to go fine (using GCC 2.7.2) until it fails with
'/usr/lib/crt0.o file not recognised : file format not recognised'

Now I don't know what crt0.o is supposed to be, but it looks like a small
binary to me. Anyone have any ideas what may be going wrong?
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I'm stuck with a problem wich I can't figure out...

I get the following:

Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00019038
current->tss.memmap = C0388000
*pgd = c00b6c01, *pmd = c00b6c01, *pte = 00000000
Internal error: Oops: 0
CPU: 0
pc : [<c002f014>]
lr : [<00000003>]
sp : c038ece0  ip : 0000ffff  fp : c038ecf8
r10: 00000000  r9 : c038ee68  r8 : c038ee68
r7 : 00000000  r6 : c038ee68  r5 : 00000000  r4 : c00b4550
r3 : 00000000  r2 : 00019000  r1 : 00000000  r0 : c00b4550
Flags: nzCv  IRQs on  FIQs on  Mode SVC_32
Process cat (pid: 6, stackpage=c038e000)
Stack:
Backtrace:
Function entered at [<c002eeb8>] from [<c002f2ec>]
  r6 = c038ee68
  r5 = 00000000
  r4 = c00b4550
Function entered at [<c002f2b8>] from [<c0033724>]
  r4 = 00000000
Function entered at [<c0033348>] from [<c002b4cc>]
  r9 = c038efb8
  r8 = 03fffefc
  r7 = c02f4a00
  r6 = 00000000
  r5 = c02ce908
  r4 = 00000001
Function entered at [<c002b39c>] from [<c0009f48>]
  r8 = c038eff4
  r7 = 00000000
  r6 = 00000003
  r5 = c038f018
  r4 = 03ffff20
Code: e3520000 15943038 15823038 e5942038 e3520000

>From System.map:

c002eeb8 T _refile_buffer
c002f2b8 T ___brelse
c0033348 T _block_read
c002b39c T _sys_read

The disassembly of the _refile_buffer function gives this around actual
PC:

...
   2eff4:       e5941028        ldr     r1, [r4, #40]
   2eff8:       e51f2160        ldr     r2, 0x2eea0
   2effc:       e7923101        ldr     r3, [r2, r1, lsl #2]
   2f000:       e2433001        sub     r3, r3, #1
   2f004:       e7823101        str     r3, [r2, r1, lsl #2]
   2f008:       e594200c        ldr     r2, [r4, #12]
   2f00c:       e3520000        cmp     r2, #0
   2f010:       15943038        ldrne   r3, [r4, #56]
   2f014:       15823038        strne   r3, [r2, #56]
   2f018:       e5942038        ldr     r2, [r4, #56]
   2f01c:       e3520000        cmp     r2, #0
   2f020:       1594300c        ldrne   r3, [r4, #12]
   2f024:       1582300c        strne   r3, [r2, #12]
   2f028:       e5943004        ldr     r3, [r4, #4]
   2f02c:       e5942000        ldr     r2, [r4]
   2f030:       e0233002        eor     r3, r3, r2
   2f034:       e1a01a03        mov     r1, r3, lsl #20

I'm really confused.  What could lead to a virtual kernel paging request
at virtual address 00019038 ???

It happens every time I try to cat from my flash block driver device and
the cat process get killed.  The kernel still goes on and the shell is
still running.

If anyone out there can enlighten me please don't hesitate!

Thanks!


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nico@cam.org


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In message <199811112135.VAA00418@raistlin.armlinux.org>
          Russell King - ARM Linux Admin <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> wrote:

> I've just tried my Quantum drive on the PTEC SCSI card, and it seems to work
> fine:
> 
>   Vendor: QUANTUM   Model: FIREBALL1080S     Rev: 1Q09
>   Type:   Direct-Access                      ANSI SCSI revision: 02

Hmmm. Strange !!??!!

> I therefore will require the exact messages that the SCSI driver issues.

OK. Here is exactly what the SCSI driver issues. There MAY be small errors,
as it is all written onto paper, and then written here.

scsi0.H: bus reset detected
scsi0 : Powertec SCSI at Port 800D1000 irq 33 dma 3 v0.0.2 scsi NCR53C9x terminators on
scsi : 1 host.
scsi0.3: bus phase MESG IN after command?
scsi : aborting command due to timeout : pid 3, scsi 0, channel 0, id 3, lun 0 Request Sense 00 00 00 10 00
FAS216: CTCL=00 CTCM=00 CMD=00 STAT=07 INST=00 IS=89 CFIS=20 CNTL1=07 CNTL2=48 CNTL3=B8 CTCH=00
FAS216_Info=
  { magic_Start=441296BD host=C2776018 SCput=C2775018 origSCput=00000000
    scsi={ io_port=800D1C00 io_shift=4 irq=21 cfg={ 7 48 B8 0 }
           type=c38a0c058 phase=3 reconnected={ target=3 lun=0 tag=0 }
           SCp={ ptr=c27860a0 this_residual=10 buffer=00000000 buffers_residual=0 }
      msgs async_stp=8 disconnectable=0 aborting=0 }
    stats={ queues=5 removes=5 fins=4 reads=0 writes=0 miscs=5
            disconnects=1 aborts=1 resets=1 }
    ifcfg={ clockrate=28 select_timeout=FF asyncperiod=C8 sync_max_depth=73 }
    busyluns[0]=0 dev[0]={ disconnect_ok=1 stp=8 sof=0 sync_state=0 }
    busyluns[1]=0 dev[1]={ disconnect_ok=1 stp=8 sof=0 sync_state=0 }
    busyluns[2]=0 dev[2]={ disconnect_ok=1 stp=8 sof=0 sync_state=0 }
    busyluns[3]=1 dev[3]={ disconnect_ok=1 stp=4 sof=7 sync_state=2 }
    busyluns[4]=0 dev[4]={ disconnect_ok=1 stp=8 sof=0 sync_state=0 }
    busyluns[5]=0 dev[5]={ disconnect_ok=1 stp=8 sof=0 sync_state=0 }
    busyluns[6]=0 dev[6]={ disconnect_ok=1 stp=8 sof=0 sync_state=0 }
    busyluns[7]=0 dev[7]={ disconnect_ok=1 stp=8 sof=0 sync_state=0 }
    dma={ transfer_type=0 setup=c389c148 pseudo=00000000 stop=c389c254 }
    internal_done=0 magic_end=441296BD }
scsi0: fas216_abort: command executing
SCSI host 0 abort (pid 3) timed out - resetting
SCSI bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0
SCSI IRQ trail: 82:C9:10:8 87:89:10:3 80:c0:80:3 8C:51:18:1 87:81:10:A 87:81:08:8 82:C9:10:8 87:89:10:3
FAS216: CTCL=00 CTCM=00 CMD=00 STAT=07 INST=00 IS=89 CFIS=20 CNTL1=07 CNTL2=48 CNTL3=B8 CTCH=00

Then the last 5 lines are repeating in an infinite loop.

The values host and SCput vary every time the module is loaded.

> Would it be possible for you to do some debugging?  I can let you know
> exactly what to do.

OK. Just say what to do.

Regards,
-- 
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Just in case it may be pertinent to someone...  I forgot to tell that all
the above is based on the latest 2.0.35 ARM kernel source compiled with
gcc-2.7.2.2 (egcs gives the same results).  My request_fn is never
called... so at this point the relation with a possible bug in my driver
is hard to establish...

On Sat, 14 Nov 1998, Nicolas Pitre wrote:

> I'm stuck with a problem wich I can't figure out...
> 
> I get the following:
> 
> Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00019038
> current->tss.memmap = C0388000
> *pgd = c00b6c01, *pmd = c00b6c01, *pte = 00000000
> Internal error: Oops: 0
> CPU: 0
> pc : [<c002f014>]
> lr : [<00000003>]
> sp : c038ece0  ip : 0000ffff  fp : c038ecf8
> r10: 00000000  r9 : c038ee68  r8 : c038ee68
> r7 : 00000000  r6 : c038ee68  r5 : 00000000  r4 : c00b4550
> r3 : 00000000  r2 : 00019000  r1 : 00000000  r0 : c00b4550
> Flags: nzCv  IRQs on  FIQs on  Mode SVC_32
> Process cat (pid: 6, stackpage=c038e000)
> Stack:
> Backtrace:
> Function entered at [<c002eeb8>] from [<c002f2ec>]
>   r6 = c038ee68
>   r5 = 00000000
>   r4 = c00b4550
> Function entered at [<c002f2b8>] from [<c0033724>]
>   r4 = 00000000
> Function entered at [<c0033348>] from [<c002b4cc>]
>   r9 = c038efb8
>   r8 = 03fffefc
>   r7 = c02f4a00
>   r6 = 00000000
>   r5 = c02ce908
>   r4 = 00000001
> Function entered at [<c002b39c>] from [<c0009f48>]
>   r8 = c038eff4
>   r7 = 00000000
>   r6 = 00000003
>   r5 = c038f018
>   r4 = 03ffff20
> Code: e3520000 15943038 15823038 e5942038 e3520000
> 
> >From System.map:
> 
> c002eeb8 T _refile_buffer
> c002f2b8 T ___brelse
> c0033348 T _block_read
> c002b39c T _sys_read
> 
> The disassembly of the _refile_buffer function gives this around actual
> PC:
> 
> ...
>    2eff4:       e5941028        ldr     r1, [r4, #40]
>    2eff8:       e51f2160        ldr     r2, 0x2eea0
>    2effc:       e7923101        ldr     r3, [r2, r1, lsl #2]
>    2f000:       e2433001        sub     r3, r3, #1
>    2f004:       e7823101        str     r3, [r2, r1, lsl #2]
>    2f008:       e594200c        ldr     r2, [r4, #12]
>    2f00c:       e3520000        cmp     r2, #0
>    2f010:       15943038        ldrne   r3, [r4, #56]
>    2f014:       15823038        strne   r3, [r2, #56]
>    2f018:       e5942038        ldr     r2, [r4, #56]
>    2f01c:       e3520000        cmp     r2, #0
>    2f020:       1594300c        ldrne   r3, [r4, #12]
>    2f024:       1582300c        strne   r3, [r2, #12]
>    2f028:       e5943004        ldr     r3, [r4, #4]
>    2f02c:       e5942000        ldr     r2, [r4]
>    2f030:       e0233002        eor     r3, r3, r2
>    2f034:       e1a01a03        mov     r1, r3, lsl #20
> 
> I'm really confused.  What could lead to a virtual kernel paging request
> at virtual address 00019038 ???
> 
> It happens every time I try to cat from my flash block driver device and
> the cat process get killed.  The kernel still goes on and the shell is
> still running.
> 
> If anyone out there can enlighten me please don't hesitate!
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> Nicolas Pitre, B. ing.
> nico@cam.org
> 
> 
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From: Timothy Baldwin <tim@reinhouse.demon.co.uk>
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I have egcs 1.1b (egcs-core-1.1b.tar.bz2) downloaded from somewhere
under sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk:Mirrors/egcs.cygnus.com/pub/egcs
and patched it with egcs-1.1b-arm-diff-9810004/bz2 from
vger.rutgers.edu:pub/gcc/arm.

I configure it in another directory with :
../egcs-1.1b-arm/configure --prefix=/usr --host=arm-unknown-linuxaout

But when I try to complie it with : make bootstrap LDFLAGS="-static"
I get the following error :

Bootstrapping the compiler
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/tim/src/egcs.aout/gcc'
make CC="gcc" libdir=/usr/lib LANGUAGES="c "
make[2]: Entering directory `/home/tim/src/egcs.aout/gcc'
gcc  -DIN_GCC    -g  -DHAVE_CONFIG_H     -I. -I../../egcs-1.1b-arm/gcc \
  -I../../egcs-1.1b-arm/gcc/config \
  -DGCC_INCLUDE_DIR=\"/usr/lib/gcc-lib/arm-unknown-linuxaout/egcs-2.91.57\
/include\" \
  -DGPLUSPLUS_INCLUDE_DIR=\"/usr/include/g++\" \
  -DOLD_GPLUSPLUS_INCLUDE_DIR=\"/usr/lib/g++-include\" \
  -DLOCAL_INCLUDE_DIR=\"/usr/local/include\" \
  -DCROSS_INCLUDE_DIR=\"/usr/arm-unknown-linuxaout/sys-include\" \
  -DTOOL_INCLUDE_DIR=\"/usr/arm-unknown-linuxaout/include\" \
  -c `echo ../../egcs-1.1b-arm/gcc/cccp.c | sed 's,^\./,,'`
In file included from ../../egcs-1.1b-arm/gcc/config/arm/aout.h:259,
                 from ../../egcs-1.1b-arm/gcc/config/arm/linux-aout.h:56,
                 from tm.h:2,
                 from ../../egcs-1.1b-arm/gcc/config/arm/xm-arm.h:54,
                 from config.h:2,
                 from ../../egcs-1.1b-arm/gcc/cccp.c:21:
../../egcs-1.1b-arm/gcc/config/arm/arm.h:56: syntax error before `enum'
make[2]: *** [cccp.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/tim/src/egcs.aout/gcc'
make[1]: *** [bootstrap] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/tim/src/egcs.aout/gcc'
make: *** [bootstrap] Error 2

Thanks in advance for help.

PS. I have Linux 2.0.35 and was using gcc 2.7.2.2 from the RPM.

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>I want to run Linux on my PSION 5.

People are already working on this.  Join the linux-7110@redhat.com mailing 
list.

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>I'm really confused.  What could lead to a virtual kernel paging request
>at virtual address 00019038 ???

It looks like R2 is supposed to be a pointer to a structure and you've done an 
element access through it.  You need to chase the code through from the start 
of the function (or look at the source) to find out where that value comes
from.

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>a) line 120 of gcc/config.in needs commenting out.. this says..TOP , and
>causes a later extern to fail.

Can you try to find out why this happens?  I built egcs natively on the 
netwinder on Friday and didn't have a problem.  I wonder if it might be caused 
by having an outdated version of some tool like sed.

>b) gcc/include/unistd.h needs __linux__ defined.. where *SHOULD* this
>occur?

It should be predefined by the compiler.  Can you post the messages you get 
when compiling something with the -v option?  The theory is that the specs 
file includes "-Dlinux" and the gcc driver creates a second version with the 
underscores added at run time.

>c) later, when doing stage 1, /usr/include/crt0 is reported as having an 
>unreadable format I guess this suggests I need some other later
>libraries..

You can't do `make bootstrap' directly if you're going from a.out to ELF.  
This is something I forgot to mention in the web page I wrote.  Instead, you 
need to build the first stage compiler by hand (just "make LANGUAGES=c"), then 
compile and install the C library using this newly built compiler (having 
first evacuated your a.out libraries from /usr/lib and /usr/include to some 
safe place).  Once this is done you should have a fully ELF-based system and 
you can go back and do "make bootstrap".

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>> Function entered at [<c002eeb8>] from [<c002f2ec>]
>>   r6 = c038ee68
>>   r5 = 00000000
>>   r4 = c00b4550
>> Function entered at [<c002f2b8>] from [<c0033724>]
>>   r4 = 00000000

BTW, if anybody out there has too much time on their hands, a worthwhile thing 
to do might be to make a patch to egcs to add an option that forces it to save 
a1-a4 in the function prologue.  This would make these backtraces somewhat 
more useful.

p.


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I have a RiscPC. It has a 200MHz StrongARM, 64MB RAM, 2MB VRAM, 1 Floppy drive,
1 4.3GB IDE Hard drive, 1 8x IDE CDROM drive + other SCSI bits. When I try to
boot linux the kernel gets as far as asking for a root floppy. So I inserted a 
floppy, pressed enter and nothing happened, the floppy light didn't even
flash. After about 1 min, it gave me an IO error. I have tried 3 differrent
kernels with no change. Any ideas? All help is appreciated. Thanks in
advance. 
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Hi Phil or Russell

It is proving very difficult to get to the stage of kernel compilation.
Please help,
then it ought to be possible to run linux with the Castle scsi cards

1. Phil.. the directory pointed to (in your toolchain page) for libc is
wrong.. 
it now only contains crypt.. the parent dir seems ok...

2. following Phil's toolchain instructions permitted binutils to be
installed, once
line 120 of gcc/config.in had had the 'TOP' commented out (thanks for the
means
of finding this Phil). I presume that I need to ensure /usr/local/bin is
visited
at the start of the PATH to ensure these tools are used preferentially
. configuring for arm-linux

3. next step.. gcc... doing the gcc-only bit with egcs-1.1b as
recommended..
failed because /usr/lib/crt0.o was unusable or
unreadable.. it comes from the -aout-devel rpm, as available from the
distributions
url.. what to do?

4. thought this meant I needed libc in place.. attempted that.. it was
unhappy as the 
make I had was 3.74 and it needed 3.75 or later...

5. tried to get current make from gnu.. configured arm-linux.. it ended
up requiring
ar.h, which was non-existant... 

6. I have linux-1.0.126 tree patched and in place.. but still cannot
proceed...

Please Please Please.. I'm wasteing SO many hours trying to get to a
system
to enable kernel building.. to extend linux's scsi and ethernet card
coverage to my
Castle cards... Can either of you suggest a reliable method.. My
starting point is the info on the May Developer CDROM and SA kernel
2.0.31


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>1. Phil.. the directory pointed to (in your toolchain page) for libc is
>wrong.. it now only contains crypt.. the parent dir seems ok...

Yes, you're right.  I'll amend the web page.

>of finding this Phil). I presume that I need to ensure /usr/local/bin is
>visited at the start of the PATH to ensure these tools are used preferentially

This is already the case, but yes.  So long as you pick up the right version 
of the gcc driver it should automatically get the matching paths to everything 
else right.

>3. next step.. gcc... doing the gcc-only bit with egcs-1.1b as
>recommended.. failed because /usr/lib/crt0.o was unusable or
>unreadable.. it comes from the -aout-devel rpm, as available from the
>distributions url.. what to do?

I don't understand why this would happen.  Can you post the exact commands 
you're using and the messages you get from make (just those near where it 
stops)?  This shouldn't occur during the first stage compile unless something 
strange is happening.

>4. thought this meant I needed libc in place.. attempted that.. it was
>unhappy as the make I had was 3.74 and it needed 3.75 or later...

If all you're trying to do is compile kernels, you don't need libc installed.

p.


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On Sun, Nov 15, 1998 at 10:16:57PM +0000, Chris Pringle wrote:
> I have a RiscPC. It has a 200MHz StrongARM, 64MB RAM, 2MB VRAM, 1 Floppy
drive,
> 1 4.3GB IDE Hard drive, 1 8x IDE CDROM drive + other SCSI bits. When I try to
> boot linux the kernel gets as far as asking for a root floppy. So I inserted a
> floppy, pressed enter and nothing happened, the floppy light didn't even
> flash. After about 1 min, it gave me an IO error. I have tried 3 differrent
> kernels with no change. Any ideas? All help is appreciated. Thanks in
> advance.

ooh, I remember this one!  Some RiscPCs were shipped with the floppy
connector in the wrong slot.  RISC OS just calls the first floppy drive
:0 so you never notice, but to linux, it's /dev/fd1.  Simple solution,
move your floppy disc to the other connector.

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Subject: Re: RPM/Handling ARM /etc
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A while ago there were some posts about getting rpm to work. I have found 
that rpm-2.3 which came with the distribution (approx. September, with kernel
2.0.35) works, but doesn't understand recent .rpm files. One can compile 
rpm-2.5 from source, but it gives a broken binary. 

The problems in the source code to rpm-2.5 surface because the default 
armlinux version of gcc (for RPC) pads out the overall size of a structure 
to a multiple of 4 bytes. This touches on a wider discussion about structure
alignment, but in this particular case, it seems that only a small patch
is needed. The changes below (output of `diff -u cpio.c.orig cpio.c` from 
rpm-2.5/lib, extracted from rpm-2.5.tar) seem to work for extracting rpms
(untested on creation of rpms). Does this look ok?

Matthew

--- cpio.c.orig	Mon Nov 16 12:08:56 1998
+++ cpio.c	Mon Nov 16 12:12:03 1998
@@ -65,6 +65,8 @@
     char namesize[8];
     char checksum[8];			/* ignored !! */
 };
+#define FAKESIZEOF_PHYSHEADER 110
+/* 110 = 6 + 13*8 */
 
 struct cpioHeader {
     ino_t inode;
@@ -152,7 +154,7 @@
     char * end;
     int major, minor;
 
-    if (ourread(fd, &physHeader, sizeof(physHeader)) != sizeof(physHeader)) 
+    if (ourread(fd, &physHeader, FAKESIZEOF_PHYSHEADER) != FAKESIZEOF_PHYSHEADER) 
 	return CPIO_READ_FAILED;
 
     if (strncmp(CPIO_CRC_MAGIC, physHeader.magic, strlen(CPIO_CRC_MAGIC)) &&
@@ -692,11 +694,11 @@
     num = strlen(map->archivePath) + 1; SET_NUM_FIELD(hdr.namesize, num, buf);
     memcpy(hdr.checksum, "00000000", 8);
 
-    if ((rc = safewrite(fd, &hdr, sizeof(hdr))))
+    if ((rc = safewrite(fd, &hdr, FAKESIZEOF_PHYSHEADER)))
 	return rc;
     if ((rc = safewrite(fd, map->archivePath, num)))
 	return rc;
-    size = sizeof(hdr) + num;
+    size = FAKESIZEOF_PHYSHEADER + num;
     if ((rc = padoutfd(fd, &size, 4)))
 	return rc;
 	
@@ -875,15 +877,15 @@
 	totalsize += size;
     }
 
-    memset(&hdr, '0', sizeof(hdr));
+    memset(&hdr, '0', FAKESIZEOF_PHYSHEADER);
     memcpy(hdr.magic, CPIO_NEWC_MAGIC, sizeof(hdr.magic));
     memcpy(hdr.nlink, "00000001", 8);
     memcpy(hdr.namesize, "0000000b", 8);
-    if ((rc = safewrite(fd, &hdr, sizeof(hdr))))
+    if ((rc = safewrite(fd, &hdr, FAKESIZEOF_PHYSHEADER)))
 	return rc;
     if ((rc = safewrite(fd, "TRAILER!!!", 11)))
 	return rc;
-    totalsize += sizeof(hdr) + 11;
+    totalsize += FAKESIZEOF_PHYSHEADER + 11;
 
     /* GNU cpio pads to 512 bytes here, but we don't. I'm not sure if
        it matters or not */

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In message <m0zfKpD-0002BVC@mencheca.ch.genedata.com>
          Matthew.Wilcox@genedata.com (Matthew Wilcox) wrote:

> On Sun, Nov 15, 1998 at 10:16:57PM +0000, Chris Pringle wrote:
> > I have a RiscPC. It has a 200MHz StrongARM, 64MB RAM, 2MB VRAM, 1 Floppy
> > drive, 1 4.3GB IDE Hard drive, 1 8x IDE CDROM drive + other SCSI bits.
> > When I try to boot linux the kernel gets as far as asking for a root
> > floppy. So I inserted a floppy, pressed enter and nothing happened, the
> > floppy light didn't even flash. After about 1 min, it gave me an IO
> > error. I have tried 3 differrent kernels with no change. Any ideas? All
> > help is appreciated. Thanks in advance.
> 
> ooh, I remember this one!  Some RiscPCs were shipped with the floppy
> connector in the wrong slot.  RISC OS just calls the first floppy drive
> :0 so you never notice, but to linux, it's /dev/fd1.  Simple solution,
> move your floppy disc to the other connector.

There's only one floppy drive slot.  In fact, the RiscPC is built such that
it is impossible to have more than one floppy drive in the system (something
to do with a certain wire not being connected up IIRC).  I think the problem
you're referring to is that some RiscPCs were shipped with a little switch at
the back of the floppy drive in the wrong position.  Flip it across, and
everything should work.

Cheers,
Phil

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Hi
On Mon, 16 Nov, Philip Blundell  wrote:
> >1. Phil.. the directory pointed to (in your toolchain page) for libc is
> >wrong.. it now only contains crypt.. the parent dir seems ok...
> 
> Yes, you're right.  I'll amend the web page.
> 
> >of finding this Phil). I presume that I need to ensure /usr/local/bin is
> >visited at the start of the PATH to ensure these tools are used
> preferentially
> 
This is already the case, but yes.  So long as you pick up the right version
> 
of the gcc driver it should automatically get the matching paths to
> everything 
else right.
> 
> >3. next step.. gcc... doing the gcc-only bit with egcs-1.1b as
> >recommended.. failed because /usr/lib/crt0.o was unusable or
> >unreadable.. it comes from the -aout-devel rpm, as available from the
> >distributions url.. what to do?
> 
> I don't understand why this would happen.  Can you post the exact commands 
> you're using and the messages you get from make (just those near where it 
> stops)?  This shouldn't occur during the first stage compile unless
> something 
strange is happening.

I'll do this this evening...


> 
> >4. thought this meant I needed libc in place.. attempted that.. it was
> >unhappy as the make I had was 3.74 and it needed 3.75 or later...
> 
> If all you're trying to do is compile kernels, you don't need libc
> installed.

good news.. I was trying ANYTHING.. to get gcc compiled...


Thanks

> 
p.
> 
> 

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On Mon 16 Nov, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 15, 1998 at 10:16:57PM +0000, Chris Pringle wrote:
> > I have a RiscPC. It has a 200MHz StrongARM, 64MB RAM, 2MB VRAM, 1 Floppy
> drive,
> > 1 4.3GB IDE Hard drive, 1 8x IDE CDROM drive + other SCSI bits. When I try to
> > boot linux the kernel gets as far as asking for a root floppy. So I inserted a
> > floppy, pressed enter and nothing happened, the floppy light didn't even
> > flash. After about 1 min, it gave me an IO error. I have tried 3 differrent
> > kernels with no change. Any ideas? All help is appreciated. Thanks in
> > advance.
> 
> ooh, I remember this one!  Some RiscPCs were shipped with the floppy
> connector in the wrong slot.  RISC OS just calls the first floppy drive
> :0 so you never notice, but to linux, it's /dev/fd1.  Simple solution,
> move your floppy disc to the other connector.
There is only one connector that I can see. Where is the other connector?
This machine used to be a RiscPC600 before the StrongARM upgrade.

Regards,
---
Chris Pringle,
22 St. Marys Drive, Fairford,Glos. GL7 4LQ
P.S. Check out my website at :
http://www.latrigg.demon.co.uk/Chris/Main/index.html

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On Mon, 16 Nov 1998, Phil Norman wrote:

> There's only one floppy drive slot.  In fact, the RiscPC is built such that
> it is impossible to have more than one floppy drive in the system (something
> to do with a certain wire not being connected up IIRC).  I think the problem
> you're referring to is that some RiscPCs were shipped with a little switch at
> the back of the floppy drive in the wrong position.  Flip it across, and
> everything should work.

Interesting. That lttle switch is the floppy drive ID selector - it lets
you pick basically the equivalent of which slot the drive is plugged into
- and if it has any effect then it means the aforementioned select line
actually must be wired up after all, since if it weren't, you wouldn't
notice which position it was in.

I wonder just how much truth there is in the RPC not being able to support
more than one floppy drive - maybe it's just line-levels and stuff that
actually prevents it.

> Cheers, 
> Phil
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On Mon, 16 Nov 1998, Phil Norman wrote:

> There's only one floppy drive slot.  In fact, the RiscPC is built such that
> it is impossible to have more than one floppy drive in the system (something
> to do with a certain wire not being connected up IIRC).  I think the problem
> you're referring to is that some RiscPCs were shipped with a little switch at
> the back of the floppy drive in the wrong position.  Flip it across, and
> everything should work.

Interesting. That lttle switch is the floppy drive ID selector - it lets
you pick basically the equivalent of which slot the drive is plugged into
- and if it has any effect then it means the aforementioned select line
actually must be wired up after all, since if it weren't, you wouldn't
notice which position it was in.

I wonder just how much truth there is in the RPC not being able to support
more than one floppy drive - maybe it's just line-levels and stuff that
actually prevents it.

> Cheers, 
> Phil
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Can anyone supply me with a binary distribution of the lesstif library.
I'm unable to compile it as I have insufficient memory and it fails on
what appears to be the final link.

Alternatively, if anyone can suggest a way round this that would be
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>Interesting. That lttle switch is the floppy drive ID selector - it lets
>you pick basically the equivalent of which slot the drive is plugged into
>- and if it has any effect then it means the aforementioned select line
>actually must be wired up after all, since if it weren't, you wouldn't
>notice which position it was in.

No, that's not how these interfaces work.  There is a select line on the 
floppy connector for each of the (usually 2 or 4) drives that are supported.  
The switch or jumper on the drive controls which of these lines it looks at to 
determine if it's being selected.  If you configure the drive as unit 1 and 
the DS1 line isn't wired, it will never be selected.

Incidentally, if this *is* the problem then the floppy wouldn't work under 
RISC OS either, unlike the similar situation that happened with the A5000.

>I wonder just how much truth there is in the RPC not being able to support
>more than one floppy drive - maybe it's just line-levels and stuff that
>actually prevents it.

>From what I gather it was only early RiscPCs that were affected by this and 
the problem was exactly that only DS0 was brought out from the super-IO chip 
to the connector.

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Hi,

I found Xarmlinux binary. But where is it's source?

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Apologies if this has been asked before, but what can is it possable to do
with with Linux?
I've downloaded all the files and installed with out too many problems
but half of the packages do not seem to have been installed although their
icons are there.
I can't even get the stuff off the net because Lynx doesn't appear to be
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Can anyone offer any advice?

Also, how do I go about getting Linux to use my CDrom drive?

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Can anyone supply me with a binary distribution of the lesstif library.
I'm unable to compile it as I have insufficient memory and it fails on
what appears to be the final link.

Alternatively, if anyone can suggest a way round this that would be
equally appreciated.

The "out of memory" error at the final linking is a blatent lie - it is due to
the outdated a.out binary format that ArmLinux currently uses. A fix is on my
webpage at:

http://members.xoom.com/chrissawer/armlinux.html

This lets you compile lesstif, which I have done. I haven't had any success in
running programs which use it, however - Mosaic compiles but coredumps when
you run it, and an organizer program I tried failed with a font error. If you
do get it working, I'd be interested to hear from you.

My RiscPC's PSU gave up last night - at which time ArmLinux was doing some
compiling :-( - I hope it hasn't wrecked my hard disc. That's the reason for
this (presumably) awful formatting as I'm using usa.net's web based e-mail.

Chris

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In message <Pine.GSO.3.95.981117000210.7147A-100000@lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk>
          James Craig <9606585c@udcf.gla.ac.uk> wrote:

> I wonder just how much truth there is in the RPC not being able to support
> more than one floppy drive - maybe it's just line-levels and stuff that
> actually prevents it.

It depends on which issue of the mother board you have.

Issue 1 boards didn't have the DS1 line connected.
On my Iss.1 I ran a wire from the FDC chip to the cable header, plus
another link for the motor-on signal. It was then able to support 2
drives.

Issue 2 and 3 boards do have the DS1 line connected.
On my Iss.2  I just plugged a second drive in without any probs.

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On Tue, 17 Nov 1998, Philip Blundell wrote:

> >Interesting. That lttle switch is the floppy drive ID selector - it lets
> >you pick basically the equivalent of which slot the drive is plugged into
> >- and if it has any effect then it means the aforementioned select line
> >actually must be wired up after all, since if it weren't, you wouldn't
> >notice which position it was in.
> 
> No, that's not how these interfaces work.  There is a select line on the 
> floppy connector for each of the (usually 2 or 4) drives that are supported.  
> The switch or jumper on the drive controls which of these lines it looks at to 
> determine if it's being selected.  If you configure the drive as unit 1 and 
> the DS1 line isn't wired, it will never be selected.
Oddly enough, I've built enough floppy intergaces to know how they work.
:)

Anyway, the drive select lines (of which there are 4, although usually
only 2 are wired up) need to match the setting of the jumper on the drive
to enable the drive. The A5000's two floppy connectors just have the first
two floppy select lines crossed over - i.e. on the 2nd connector, a drive
wired for drive 0 will appear to be drive 1 to the computer and vice
versa. My point was that RISC OS must be being smart if the drive works in
RISC OS and not in linux, autodetecting that it's drive 1 not 0, and the
RPC must have both select lines mechanically wired up to actually do that.
If it doesn't work in RISC OS, of course, then that whole lot is complete
nonsense and you can ignore me. ;)

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Hi Phil

When I referred to line 120 of gcc/config.in containing the word 'TOP', which
needed
commenting out, this was in the egcs-1.1b source tree,
NOT the result of running Configure....
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I just installed Armlinux after an abortive attempt with NetBSD/arm32 (or
shouldn't I say that here!) and in general found the installation very
straightforward.

Since then I got an APDL IDE interface; reading the literature I've found
suggests that it's sort-of supported and might work or might not. Is there
a definitive statement whether it will/won't work? 

One more question - can I pass options to !Linux so that it starts without
any intervention? (ie no menu; also need to pass root=/dev/hda3 to the
kernel somehow)

Thanks

John Joyce

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James Craig writes:
> The A5000's two floppy connectors just have the first
> two floppy select lines crossed over - i.e. on the 2nd connector, a drive
> wired for drive 0 will appear to be drive 1 to the computer and vice
> versa.

You /sure/ about this?  I've had a total of 4 drives on the A5k before now,
all of them recognised by RISC OS.

> My point was that RISC OS must be being smart if the drive works in
> RISC OS and not in linux, autodetecting that it's drive 1 not 0, and the
> RPC must have both select lines mechanically wired up to actually do that.

RISC OS always scans the floppy drives in the physical order - :0 :1 :2 :3.
It then allocates the drives a logical number in the order that it finds
them.  ie, if you have one floppy drive attached as physical drive :3,
then RISC OS at boot will scan :0, :1, :2, then find the drive on :3
and you'll still see it as :0.
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Phil
in a fraught attempt to find out whats happening, I've gone back to a
clean beginning. 
I enclose a listing of just what happened.. Its as an enclosure because
of linitations
in my current e-mail setup

as you will see.. its getting there, but it seems that the jump to elf
code is rather large
and seems to need lots of unepected stuff

I look forward to your comments.. 
Thanks

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Hi John,

>6. within /usr/src/arm_code/binutils do ../../binu*/configure arm-linux
>--prefix=/usr

I think this is your main problem.  If you install the ELF binutils in /usr 
you can't go on using your old gcc and libraries to build a.out executables. 
You probably want to configure binutils and egcs for cross-compiling at first 
(ie use ".../configure arm-linuxaout --target=arm-linux --prefix=/usr" or 
something like that).

>9. within /usr/src/arm_code/egcs:
>	mkdir include
>	cd include
>	ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/asm asm
>       ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/linux linux

This isn't correct.  You should put these in /usr/arm-linux/include, not in 
your build directory.

> LANGUAGES="c".  /usr/src/eg*/gcc/config.in had gained a 'TOP' at
> line120. (WHY??? it wasnt 

My guess would be that you have an old version of autoheader installed.

>14. so try xgcc on conftest.. fails with both old binutils and new as
>follows:
>ar*/eg*/gcc/xgcc ./conftest.c
>/usr/arm-linux/bin/ld: cannot open crt1.o: No such file or directory
>collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
>note.. not crt0.o now.. but crt1.o  where do I get this?????

crt1.o is provided by glibc.  But you don't need that for kernel building. 

p.


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On Wed, 18 Nov 1998, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote:

> James Craig writes:
> > The A5000's two floppy connectors just have the first
> > two floppy select lines crossed over - i.e. on the 2nd connector, a drive
> > wired for drive 0 will appear to be drive 1 to the computer and vice
> > versa.
> 
> You /sure/ about this?  I've had a total of 4 drives on the A5k before now,
> all of them recognised by RISC OS.
I didn't say what happened to the select lines 2 and 3, which are still
there. :)
I've had 4 drives on my A3000 too. It's not hard to get it to work. I'll
concede, the two A5000 connectors might have something silly like the
first connector has select lines 0 and 1 swapped over with 2 and 3
instead of just 0 and 1 being swapped - but that's trivial to check for if
you've got an A5000 sitting on the bench in front of you. :)
I actually do have one sitting at home, so I guess I could have a play
with it tonight.
>
> My point was that RISC OS must be being smart if the drive works in
> > RISC OS and not in linux, autodetecting that it's drive 1 not 0, and the
> > RPC must have both select lines mechanically wired up to actually do that.
> 
> RISC OS always scans the floppy drives in the physical order - :0 :1 :2 :3.
> It then allocates the drives a logical number in the order that it finds
> them.  ie, if you have one floppy drive attached as physical drive :3,
> then RISC OS at boot will scan :0, :1, :2, then find the drive on :3
> and you'll still see it as :0.
Yep, but this is only true on A5000's and up. On A300/A400/A3000s, it uses
the physical numbers full stop. I know this because I used to use my A3000
with 4 floppy drives attached all the time, and no hard drive.
Anyway, what I'm getting at is that if the drive works in RISC OS, then
either:
a) The RPC has both floppy drive select lines wired up and autodetects
which ID the drive is actually set to,
or b) The drive is already wired to ID 0 and there's something damned odd
going on to stop it working in linux. :)

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I have a Late RiscPC and tried last year to use 2 floppies with a standard
PC floppy cable.
It didn't work then and it doesn't work now.
But when I took the PC floppy cable and reordered the middle swapped lines,
and set each floppy
to a unique ID, using the jumpers on the back, it worked fine.

I also had the 'Arm Linux not seeing my floppy drive' problem, and just
switched the select switch on the back
of the floppy and it worked fine.

This is just for information and just to clarify that:
     A late RiscPC does allow more than a single Floppy, but only if you
have a NORMAL floppy cable, i.e. not a PC floppy cable, AND the floppy drive
ID has been set on each drive

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On Mon, 16 Nov 1998, Philip Blundell wrote:

> >4. thought this meant I needed libc in place.. attempted that.. it was
> >unhappy as the make I had was 3.74 and it needed 3.75 or later...
> 
> If all you're trying to do is compile kernels, you don't need libc installed.

Btw, I've compiled glibc-2.0.94/2.0.95 using make-3.74 - I just changed
the configure-script. It worked.

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On Mon, 16 Nov 1998, Matthew Selby wrote:

> A while ago there were some posts about getting rpm to work. I have found 
> that rpm-2.3 which came with the distribution (approx. September, with kernel
> 2.0.35) works, but doesn't understand recent .rpm files. One can compile 
> rpm-2.5 from source, but it gives a broken binary. 
> 
> The problems in the source code to rpm-2.5 surface because the default 
> armlinux version of gcc (for RPC) pads out the overall size of a structure 
> to a multiple of 4 bytes. This touches on a wider discussion about structure
> alignment, but in this particular case, it seems that only a small patch
> is needed. The changes below (output of `diff -u cpio.c.orig cpio.c` from 
> rpm-2.5/lib, extracted from rpm-2.5.tar) seem to work for extracting rpms
> (untested on creation of rpms). Does this look ok?

Yes, I've patched this version similar, but used sizeof(...)-2. But this
is not all that's to be done. rpm needs to know about the arm architecture
or otherwise it'll complain about some wrong architecture every time you
try to install a binary package.

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On 17 Nov 1998, CHRIS SAWER wrote:

{snip}

> The "out of memory" error at the final linking is a blatent lie - it is due to
> the outdated a.out binary format that ArmLinux currently uses. A fix is on my
> webpage at:
> 

Does this mean that I should be able to compile it using egcs and an ELF
capable kernel?

> This lets you compile lesstif, which I have done. I haven't had any success in
> running programs which use it, however - Mosaic compiles but coredumps when
> you run it, and an organizer program I tried failed with a font error. If you
> do get it working, I'd be interested to hear from you.
> 
I have a similar problem with xpdf, which doesn't use lesstif

> My RiscPC's PSU gave up last night - at which time ArmLinux was doing some
> compiling :-( - I hope it hasn't wrecked my hard disc. That's the reason for
> this (presumably) awful formatting as I'm using usa.net's web based e-mail.
> 
I've got a spare here. I'm using it as a bookend atm

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I have been attempting to get "elf" up and running on my system (Acorn RiscPC
SA, 48+1Mb, 2.0.35 Kernel) using Philip Blundell's guide. I think I have
managed to successfully build and install both Binutils 2.9.1.0.15 (with Arm
patch) and egcs 1.1b (also with Arm patch) as cross-compilers from
arm-linuxaout to arm-linux. The problems come when I try and compile egcs,
however. The first time I tried, I needed to run "ranlib" on one of egcs'
libraries to add an index, and also compile ld statically as it ran out of
memory. Having done this, however, the compiler crashes (after about 4
hours!) with this error:

a - txn_auto.os
a - txn_rec.os
a - dbm.os
a - db185.os
: /glibc/glibc-build/db2/libdb_pic.a
arm-linux-gcc   -shared -O -o /glibc/glibc-build/db2/libdb.so  -Wl,-dynamic-linker=/usr/arm-linux/lib/ld-linux.so.2 -B/glibc/glibc-build/csu/ -Wl,--version-script=/glibc/glibc-build/libdb.map -Wl,-soname=libdb.so.3   -L/glibc/glibc-build -L/glibc/glibc-build/math -L/glibc/glibc-build/elf -L/glibc/glibc-build/nss -L/glibc/glibc-build/nis -L/glibc/glibc-build/db2 -L/glibc/glibc-build/rt -L/glibc/glibc-build/resolv -L/glibc/glibc-build/linuxthreads -Wl,-rpath-link=/glibc/glibc-build:/glibc/glibc-build/math:/glibc/glibc-build/elf:/glibc/glibc-build/nss:/glibc/glibc-build/nis:/glibc/glibc-build/db2:/glibc/glibc-build/rt:/glibc/glibc-build/resolv:/glibc/glibc-build/linuxthreads -Wl,--whole-archive /glibc/glibc-build/db2/libdb_pic.a /glibc/glibc-build/elf/interp.os /glibc/glibc-build/libc.so -Wl,--no-whole-archive
rm -f /glibc/glibc-build/db2/libdb.so.3.new
/bin/sh ../scripts/rellns-sh /glibc/glibc-build/db2/libdb.so /glibc/glibc-build/db2/libdb.so.3.new
mv -f /glibc/glibc-build/db2/libdb.so.3.new /glibc/glibc-build/db2/libdb.so.3
arm-linux-gcc -nostdlib -nostartfiles -o /glibc/glibc-build/db2/makedb  -Wl,-dynamic-linker=/usr/arm-linux/lib/ld-linux.so.2  /glibc/glibc-build/csu/crt1.o /glibc/glibc-build/csu/crti.o `arm-linux-gcc --print-file-name=crtbegin.o` /glibc/glibc-build/db2/makedb.o /glibc/glibc-build/db2/libdb.so.3  -Wl,-rpath-link=/glibc/glibc-build:/glibc/glibc-build/math:/glibc/glibc-build/elf:/glibc/glibc-build/nss:/glibc/glibc-build/nis:/glibc/glibc-build/db2:/glibc/glibc-build/rt:/glibc/glibc-build/resolv:/glibc/glibc-build/linuxthreads /glibc/glibc-build/libc.so.6 /glibc/glibc-build/libc_nonshared.a -lgcc
`arm-linux-gcc --print-file-name=crtend.o` /glibc/glibc-build/csu/crtn.o
/glibc/glibc-build/libc.so.6: undefined reference to `__syscall__sysctl'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: *** [/glibc/glibc-build/db2/makedb] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/elf/glibc-2.0.100/db2'
make[1]: *** [db2/others] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/elf/glibc-2.0.100'
make: *** [all] Error 2

(Apologies for not formatting it, but I thought it would only confuse
matters)

Can anyone shed any light on my problem?

Thanks in advance,

Chris

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In message <Navaho-2.00b24-911357263.44851@castle-technology.co.uk>
          John Ballance <jwb@castle-technology.co.uk> wrote:

<snip>

> make... runs through to give complete xgcc. then make install LANGUAGES="c"
> command fails with cpp...

No idea if this'll help, but anyway...

I couldn't make install LANGUAGES=c on egcs 1.1b as makeinfo didn't like some
of the files. I downloaded and compiled the latest version, but it still
complained so I commented out the appropriate lines in the Makefile and it
seemed to work (still won't compile glibc, tho' - see my other post).

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In message <38ca1da748%root@usa.net> you wrote:

> The problems come when I try and compile egcs, however.

Aarrrggghhh! I meant to say glibc, of course.

Sorry,

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Hi All,

There is now /a/ 2.1.128 development kernel on the FTP site.  It is highly
experimental, and has major changes in it.  I am still working hard on this
kernel to get it into a reasonable state, and therefore it's only linked in
as 'DEV', not 'LATEST'.

You can expect a cleaner kernel patch this Sunday.
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I have the following code:

#define proc_idle()                             \
        do {                                    \
          unsigned long tmp;                    \
        __asm__ __volatile__(                   \
"       mcr     p15, 0, %0, c15, c2, 2\n"       \
"       ldr     %0, [%1]\n"                     \
"       mcr     p15, 0, %0, c15, c8, 2\n"       \
"       mcr     p15, 0, %0, c15, c1, 2\n"       \
        : : "r" (tmp), "r" (&ICIP));            \
        } while (0)

/*
 * The idle loop on an arm..
 */
asmlinkage int sys_idle(void)
{
        if (current->pid != 0)
                return -EPERM;

        /* endless idle loop with no priority at all */
        current->counter = -100;
        for (;;) {
                if (!hlt_counter && !need_resched)
                        proc_idle ();
                schedule();
        }
}

In the above, the compiler is generating funny things for the 
"if (!hlt_counter && !need_resched)" line.  It gets translated to this:

        .align  0
        .global _sys_idle
_sys_idle:
        @ args = 0, pretend = 0, frame = 0
        @ frame_needed = 1, current_function_anonymous_args = 0
        mov     ip, sp
        stmfd   sp!, {r4, r5, r6, fp, ip, lr, pc}
        ldr     r3, L426
        ldr     r1, [r3, #0]
        ldr     r2, [r1, #108]
        sub     fp, ip, #4
        cmp     r2, #0
        beq     L415
        mvn     r0, #0
        ldmea   fp, {r4, r5, r6, fp, sp, pc}
L427:
        .align  0
L426:
        .word   _current_set
L415:
        mvn     r3, #99
        str     r3, [r1, #4]
        ldr     r6, L428
        ldr     r5, L428+4
L416:
        ldr     r3, [r6, #0]
        cmp     r3, #0
        bne     L419
        ldr     r3, [r5, #0]
        cmp     r3, #0
***** wrong code start here *****
        moveq   ip, #-100663296
        addeq   ip, ip, #327680
       mcr     p15, 0, r4, c15, c2, 2
       ldr     r4, [ip]
       mcr     p15, 0, r4, c15, c8, 2
       mcr     p15, 0, r4, c15, c1, 2
***** wrong code stops here *****

L419:
        bl      _schedule
        b       L416
L429:
        .align  0
L428:
        .word   _hlt_counter
        .word   _need_resched

In the above, even if need_resched != 0, the macro proc_idle() is executed
even if it shouldn't but with its input value (in ip) not initialized.
Since ip is a pointer, it leads to funny things...

I tried gcc-2.7.2.2 and egcs-1.1b with Philip's patches applied and both
compilers give the same assembly.  The usual kernel compile flags were
passed to the compiler.

What could be wrong?  The C constructions seems OK to me.  Aren't they?

Thanks!



Nicolas Pitre, B. ing.
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>I tried gcc-2.7.2.2 and egcs-1.1b with Philip's patches applied and both
>compilers give the same assembly.  The usual kernel compile flags were
>passed to the compiler.

Try the latest egcs 1.1.1 prerelease; I think this bug is fixed there.  

Basically what's happening is that the backend is trying to conditionally 
execute the "if" rather than branching around it, but because it's an inline 
asm it doesn't actually have any way to add the right codes.

Compiling with -O1 rather than -O2 will probably make this go away as well.

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>arm-linuxaout to arm-linux. The problems come when I try and compile egcs,
>however. The first time I tried, I needed to run "ranlib" on one of egcs'
>libraries to add an index,

This sort of thing usually means you're using the wrong `ar' for some reason.

>/glibc/glibc-build/libc.so.6: undefined reference to `__syscall__sysctl'

Your kernel is missing one of the needed syscalls.  Add a definition of 
__NR__sysctl to <asm/unistd.h>.  You can get the right number from a 2.1 
kernel.

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I have noticed from skimming through a few books on Linux that Red Hat
is now on version 5 and above.  I am running Red Hat 3.0.3, which is
what was included on the Clan CD.  Can ARM Linux support the later
versions of Red Hat - I would like to install them, but do not want to
break the setup that I have already got.

Thanks

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In message <Pine.BSF.4.05.9811181847220.24999-100000@BITS.bris.ac.uk>
          John Lindley <john@BITS.bris.ac.uk> wrote:

> On 17 Nov 1998, CHRIS SAWER wrote:
> 
> {snip}
> 
> > The "out of memory" error at the final linking is a blatent lie - it is
> > due to the outdated a.out binary format that ArmLinux currently uses. A
> > fix is on my webpage at:
> > 
> 
> Does this mean that I should be able to compile it using egcs and an ELF
> capable kernel?

Dunno, although I'll try it as soon as I get elf up and running on my system.
> 
> > This lets you compile lesstif, which I have done. I haven't had any
> > success in running programs which use it, however - Mosaic compiles but
> > coredumps when you run it, and an organizer program I tried failed with a
> > font error. If you do get it working, I'd be interested to hear from you.
> > 
> I have a similar problem with xpdf, which doesn't use lesstif

Yeah - the fix is just a statically linked version of "ld" which can use more
memory than the one supplied with ArmLinux - quite a few programmes (not just
Lesstif) need it.

> > My RiscPC's PSU gave up last night - at which time ArmLinux was doing
> > some compiling :-( - I hope it hasn't wrecked my hard disc. That's the
> > reason for this (presumably) awful formatting as I'm using usa.net's web
> > based e-mail.

> I've got a spare here. I'm using it as a bookend atm
> 
Thanks, but CJE Micros have already fixed it.

Chris

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In article <3653F3E9.E9925945@bath.ac.uk>,
   Damian Le Gresley <ee6dflg@bath.ac.uk> wrote:
> I have noticed from skimming through a few books on Linux that Red Hat
> is now on version 5 and above.  I am running Red Hat 3.0.3, which is
> what was included on the Clan CD.  Can ARM Linux support the later
> versions of Red Hat - I would like to install them, but do not want to
> break the setup that I have already got.

You can't just install them because the RedHat 5 CDs floating around are
generally for the Intel platform. You would basically need to recompile them
all from the source code - no mean feat! :-(

Is anyone working on this, and are we likely to see a newer distribution for
ARMLinux?

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I'm trying to install ArmLinux on a Quantum
FB Tempest 3.2Gb hadr disk.  It is on an APDL ideA interface
together with a SparQ1.0Gb drive.

The kernel (2.0.35) boots and finds the interface card but
fails to list either device.  The disk was partitioned with the
alpha version of Partman.

Has anyone experience of this setup?  Should I move the drive to
the Acorn IDE?

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Nicolas Pitre writes:
> 
> I have the following code:
> 
> #define proc_idle()                             \
>         do {                                    \
>           unsigned long tmp;                    \
>         __asm__ __volatile__(                   \
> "       mcr     p15, 0, %0, c15, c2, 2\n"       \
> "       ldr     %0, [%1]\n"                     \
> "       mcr     p15, 0, %0, c15, c8, 2\n"       \
> "       mcr     p15, 0, %0, c15, c1, 2\n"       \
>         : : "r" (tmp), "r" (&ICIP));            \
>         } while (0)

You want:

 "       mcr%?     p15, 0, %0, c15, c2, 2\n"       \
 "       ldr%?     %0, [%1]\n"                     \
 "       mcr%?     p15, 0, %0, c15, c8, 2\n"       \
 "       mcr%?     p15, 0, %0, c15, c1, 2\n"       \

%? adds in the condition codes.  The other solution would be to tell
GCC that the asm corrupts "cc".

> What could be wrong?  The C constructions seems OK to me.  Aren't they?

Yep, C's ok, compilers ok.  Asm is not correct however.
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Damian Le Gresley writes:
> I have noticed from skimming through a few books on Linux that Red Hat
> is now on version 5 and above.  I am running Red Hat 3.0.3, which is
> what was included on the Clan CD.  Can ARM Linux support the later
> versions of Red Hat - I would like to install them, but do not want to
> break the setup that I have already got.

It's not actually 3.0.3, but a mixture of 3.0.3, 4.0 and 4.2.  I'm not
currently working on a later RedHat for ARMLinux at the moment.
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In message <48a79fd774pvigay@interalpha.co.uk>
          Paul Vigay <pvigay@interalpha.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <3653F3E9.E9925945@bath.ac.uk>,
>    Damian Le Gresley <ee6dflg@bath.ac.uk> wrote:

>> I have noticed from skimming through a few books on Linux that Red Hat is
>> now on version 5 and above.  I am running Red Hat 3.0.3, which is what was
>> included on the Clan CD.  Can ARM Linux support the later versions of Red
>> Hat - I would like to install them, but do not want to break the setup
>> that I have already got.
> 
> You can't just install them because the RedHat 5 CDs floating around are
> generally for the Intel platform. You would basically need to recompile
> them all from the source code - no mean feat! :-(

The main problem with trying to use anything above version 3 is that versions
4.* and 5.* are ELF-based distributions.  So once we have working ELF for the
masses, 5 could be ported without much hassle (although debian's nicer).

Cheers,
Phil
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> The main problem with trying to use anything above version 3 is that versions
> 4.* and 5.* are ELF-based distributions.  So once we have working ELF for the
> masses, 5 could be ported without much hassle (although debian's nicer).

Once all your tools work its about 2 man weeks to retarget Red Hat and 
build it, but you do want a fast box and 3 or 4 gig of disk
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>4.* and 5.* are ELF-based distributions.  So once we have working ELF for the
>masses,

Which we do, basically.  The only awkward bit about ELF is now the transition 
itself and the fact that most random users don't want to rebuild their entire 
system from source.  So it's almost entirely a distribution problem.

All the Debian and Red Hat distributions for the ARM that are currently being 
worked on use ELF as far as I know.

p.


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I do hate to trouble you people with little problems like this, but I'm afraid
I'm got myself just a little bit stuck and I was hoping somebody might be
able to give me a nudge in the right direction.

I've been trying to compile egcs, following the instructions on Philip
Blundell's webpage.  I compiled and installed binutils as instructed for the
"arm-linux" target, then tried to compile the first bits of gcc by going
into the "gcc" directory and typing 'make LANGUAGES="c"'.  No problems
and all is well...  then I type 'make install' and after the computer does
lots and lots of stuff, it gives an error message:

  /usr/arm-unknown-linuxaout/bin/ld: final link failed: Memory exhausted

Now, in my (extremely limited) knowledge of these things, I understand
this is due to a memory mapping limitation of the aout binary format...  I
checked the FAQ and it says that to cure this you should use ELF.

However, surely I'd need to be able to compile egcs before I could use ELF,
so egcs not compiling without ELF would seem a catch-22 situation?
Obviously this can't be right, so I get the feeling that I'm doing something
really really dumb...  but I'm not all that clued-in on Linux so I can't
imagine what it might be.  Does anyone have any thoughts?

And if it's something _really_ silly, I apologise in advance for wasting
your time.

James.
 
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In message <19981121.145556.73@zetnet.co.uk>
          jjf@zetnet.co.uk (James J. Farmer) wrote:

<snip>

>   /usr/arm-unknown-linuxaout/bin/ld: final link failed: Memory exhausted
> 
> Now, in my (extremely limited) knowledge of these things, I understand this
> is due to a memory mapping limitation of the aout binary format...  I
> checked the FAQ and it says that to cure this you should use ELF.
> 
> However, surely I'd need to be able to compile egcs before I could use ELF,
> so egcs not compiling without ELF would seem a catch-22 situation?
> Obviously this can't be right, so I get the feeling that I'm doing
> something really really dumb...  but I'm not all that clued-in on Linux so
> I can't imagine what it might be.  Does anyone have any thoughts?

Indeed - there is (luckily) another way to get this to work and that is to
compile ld statically. (BTW, you need to do the same with "ar"). Stefan
Hanske <shanske@ix.urz-heidelberg.de> explained this to me a while ago:


<Start quote>

Seems you've not linked ld itself statically. I hope you've still got the 
source tree with the compiled binutils ready on your HD, if not, you have 
to compile everything again. Let the binutils compile up to the end, and 
remove ld/ld.new (I think that's the name, seek for an  executable that's 
named something similar). Type make again and when 'make' enters the 
ld-subdir and writes the command line used to link ld together, hit 
<CRTL>C (yes, stop the process), go into subdir ld, copy the commandline 
that make wrote earlier on the screen into a new bash prompt and add 
-static or -Wl,-Bstatic before hitting return. The new executable should 
be significantly larger than the old one. The last check is 'ldd 
./ld.new' which should return 'statically linked'. If that's OK, install 
it. If not, consult gcc's man page for a flag that forces it to produce 
statically linked binaries.

The problem is that if the linker ld depends on any shared library, it 
will be loaded at runtime and reduce the memory available to the binary 
due to it's existance in memory (the kernel/library refuses to get it 
overwritten by  the programs data, that's why ld won't get more than 12MB 
of mem if it's not statically linked).

<End quote>


Hope this helps,

Chris

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>  /usr/arm-unknown-linuxaout/bin/ld: final link failed: Memory exhausted
>
>Now, in my (extremely limited) knowledge of these things, I understand
>this is due to a memory mapping limitation of the aout binary format...  I
>checked the FAQ and it says that to cure this you should use ELF.

A statically linked a.out binary of ld will work as well.  Can someone provide 
either this or an ELF one that will work on the RiscPC?

p.



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Hi!

Maybe someone can help me here.

I have done a port of Linux to a HW similar to EBSA285, based
on EBSA285 code. The machine has IDE and Ethernet on board 
along with SA110 and 21285 footbridge.   

The FW we have loads kernel from DOS style MBR 
partition'ed disk with ext2fs on it, uncompresses
and runs OK.  It goes through PCI init, finds devices, mounts
the ext2fs from the disk OK, and finds /dev/console properly
pointed to serial_21285, prints messages OK and then finds
/sbin/init on the disk and does a execve()... but then hangs.

I have a couple of different version of /sbin/init user program
compiled on a NetWinder and then copied over to the disk.
But the /sbin/init binary seems to be causing problems (my guess).

I have been trying to compile glibc 2.0.102 for StrongARM cross
target unsuccessfully... it always fails with alot of errors
regarding multiple definitions of functions in various files
against libc_pic.os (functions like __llseek, etc.).  Due to
this problem I can't make my own /sbin/init cross compiled
using the same set up I employ for cross-compiling the kernel.

Any insights would be greatly appreciated.

-- 
Hwa Jin Bae
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Philip Blundell writes:
> We've now got a lot of constructs like this in the hardware-specific setup 
> code for both EBSA/CATS and VNC:
> 
> +	pci_set_cmd(dev, 0, PCI_COMMAND_MASTER | PCI_COMMAND_MEMORY | PCI_COMMAND_IO);
> 
> For things like the ISA bridge this seems fair enough, but for most 
> peripherals I'd expect that the driver ought to be doing pci_set_master() 
> -- and if it isn't, that's where it ought to get fixed.  Is there any reason 
> why this won't work?

Peripherals also need their IO and memory access bits set correctly.  If you'd
care to read the code, you'll notice that the Netwinder port sets up the PCI
bus completely.  Hence, there is no point in writing to the control register
twice, when you can do it in one go.
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How many people would be upset if support for linux/arm a.out was dropped in 
the next major revision of binutils?

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>Peripherals also need their IO and memory access bits set correctly.  If you'd
>care to read the code, you'll notice that the Netwinder port sets up the PCI
>bus completely.  Hence, there is no point in writing to the control register
>twice, when you can do it in one go.

And for the non-Netwinder ports?

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Subject: Re: Compiling egcs...  help.
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In a message sent at Sun, 22 Nov 1998 18:11:18 +0000,
     Chris Sawer (chris.sawer@usa.net) said:

> Indeed - there is (luckily) another way to get this to work and that is to
> compile ld statically. (BTW, you need to do the same with "ar"). Stefan
> Hanske <shanske@ix.urz-heidelberg.de> explained this to me a while ago:

 [snip]

> Hope this helps,

Thanks!  That all sounds rather possible...  however, I have hit another
problem.  I deleted my binutils source tree yesterday when I ran out of
disc space (despite having installed next to nothing in my 700Mb!).  Anyway,
"no problem", I thought, "I'll just download it again and re-build it."  And
so I downloaded Binutils 2.9.1.0.15 along with the appropriate patch, just
like I did before, applied the patch, ran the configure file, typed "make"...
and all went seemingly to plan until it started to compile the stuff in
the "binutils" directory, when this happened...

  make[1]: Entering directory `/root/binutils-2.9.1.0.15/binutils'
  /bin/sh ./libtool --mode=link gcc -g -O2  -o size  size.o bucomm.o version.o filemode.o ../bfd/libbfd.la ../libiberty/libiberty.a 
  gcc -g -O2 -o size size.o bucomm.o version.o filemode.o ../bfd/.libs/libbfd.a ../libiberty/libiberty.a
  ../bfd/.libs/libbfd.a: could not read symbols: Archive has no index; run ranlib to add one
  make[1]: *** [size] Error 1
  make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/binutils-2.9.1.0.15/binutils'
  make: *** [all-binutils] Error 2

Oo-er - it worked before!  Anyway, I've tried running ranlib on the offending
file about twenty zillion times but it never stops me from getting this
same error...  I've tried using the targets "arm-linux" and "arm-linuxaout"
but no joy.  And I'm afraid that once again I've exceeded my knowledge of
Linux...  my best guess is that something that was installed when I last
built binutils is for some reason not working with binutils itself, which
seems a touch daft but it was the only thing I could think of.  The only
other changes to my system since my last successful build are that I've
installed Chimera, Afterstep and Freeciv, none of which I can in a month
of Sundays imagine causing problems like this.

I hate to off-load my problems onto you people, but...  I'm stuck.  I'm
very very stuck.  I'm very very stuck indeed.

All suggestions gratefully received...

James.
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Hi!

First, sorry for the long message... but I am rather stuck here
so I might as well as around.

As mentioned in my previous posting, I have ported the ARM Linux
kernel based on 2.1.126 + pre-patch from www.arm.linux.org.uk site
onto a new HW similar to EBSA285.  The kernel works reasonably
well enough to start running /sbin/init.  Due to lack of working
glibc compatible with my cross development environment (Linux/i686 ->
StrongARM) I am unable to (yet) compile a /sbin/init.  Instead I 
have been trying to use various StrongARM versions of /sbin/init
for NetWinder kernel, which does not seem to work with 2.1.126
based kernel.  When trying to compile glibc 2.0.102  for cross
compiling from Linux/i686 -> StrongARM, I run into a bunch
of problems, the worst of which has to do with multiple definitions
of funtions when libc.so is being built (this does not happen
when building native on a given architecture).

Anyway, after trying to obtain a reasonable base code for the
porting effort based on latest available code on the net I am
not able to put together a reasonable system that can be ported.
At this point my only other alternative seems to be to retarget
the Corel's netwinder kernel which is based on 2.0.X.  I'd really
prefer not to use the old base, but at least I know the port works.
Reading various web pages, I am lead to believe that there are
2.1.X based Linux ports to EBSA285 style computers out there.
However, I am not able to receive any assistance in locating a
cohesive distribution that works on a given platform (either
original EBSA285 and CATS I have here).

If any of you are in a similar situation and would like to suggest
any ideas or words of wisdom I would greatly appreciate it.  
I'd really like to avoid having to start porting netwinder code
to my HW since it is 2.0 based, and I could definitely use
the latest feature in 2.1 kernels (better PCI IDE code for example).

-- 
Hwa Jin Bae
PSO Systems Inc
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On Mon, 23 Nov 1998, James J. Farmer wrote:

> In a message sent at Sun, 22 Nov 1998 18:11:18 +0000,
>      Chris Sawer (chris.sawer@usa.net) said:
> 
> > Indeed - there is (luckily) another way to get this to work and that is to
> > compile ld statically. (BTW, you need to do the same with "ar"). Stefan
> > Hanske <shanske@ix.urz-heidelberg.de> explained this to me a while ago:
> 
>  [snip]
> 
> > Hope this helps,
> 
> Thanks!  That all sounds rather possible...  however, I have hit another
> problem.  I deleted my binutils source tree yesterday when I ran out of
> disc space (despite having installed next to nothing in my 700Mb!).  Anyway,
> "no problem", I thought, "I'll just download it again and re-build it."  And
> so I downloaded Binutils 2.9.1.0.15 along with the appropriate patch, just
> like I did before, applied the patch, ran the configure file, typed "make"...
> and all went seemingly to plan until it started to compile the stuff in
> the "binutils" directory, when this happened...
> 
>   make[1]: Entering directory `/root/binutils-2.9.1.0.15/binutils'
>   /bin/sh ./libtool --mode=link gcc -g -O2  -o size  size.o bucomm.o version.o filemode.o ../bfd/libbfd.la ../libiberty/libiberty.a 
>   gcc -g -O2 -o size size.o bucomm.o version.o filemode.o ../bfd/.libs/libbfd.a ../libiberty/libiberty.a
>   ../bfd/.libs/libbfd.a: could not read symbols: Archive has no index; run ranlib to add one
>   make[1]: *** [size] Error 1
>   make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/binutils-2.9.1.0.15/binutils'
>   make: *** [all-binutils] Error 2
> 
	I got this problem every now and then but running ranlib on the
file fixed it. You using the right ranlib?

	Cheers Adam

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>        I got this problem every now and then but running ranlib on the
>file fixed it. You using the right ranlib?

Probably not then...  which is the "right" one?

James.
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>Peripherals also need their IO and memory access bits set correctly.  If you'd
>care to read the code, you'll notice that the Netwinder port sets up the PCI

Thinking about it more I think this argument is spurious.  The driver should 
probably be responsible for setting the I/O and memory bits as well.

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On Tue, 24 Nov 1998, James J Farmer wrote:

> >        I got this problem every now and then but running ranlib on the
> >file fixed it. You using the right ranlib?
> 
> Probably not then...  which is the "right" one?

	The same as the build? So your local binutils ranlib i would
imagine but i could be wrong.

	Cheers Adam
> 
> James.
> 

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>No complaints, *if* you have ELF working on 26-bit machines. :)

It should do.  Just needs someone with the enthusiasm to try it really.

p.


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>        The same as the build? So your local binutils ranlib i would
>imagine but i could be wrong.

Errhhh...  you mean the one that I built with binutils last time I
compiled it?  (If you do, then I am...  at least according to the
datestamp on the binary.)

Thanks anyway,

James.
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>Phil.. there seems to be such bother GETTING to a compiled version with elf 
>that until the route for riscpcs is clear.. maybe a.out ought to 
>stay.. my humble opinion

Yeah, I had a handful of other messages saying that people would like it to 
stay.  I'll certainly do my best.

>on the other tack.. I can now compile and install both binutils and egcs for
>arm-linuxaout successfully.. BUT once using these I get a series of errors
>about missing items.. e.g. _fxstat.   I suspect I am doing something very
>silly.. have you any idea what?

Frankly no, not really.  It looks like you have some sort of header/library 
mismatch but I don't know how it could have happened.

p.


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On Mon, 23 Nov, Philip Blundell  wrote:
> How many people would be upset if support for linux/arm a.out was dropped
in
> 
> the next major revision of binutils?

Phil.. there seems to be such bother GETTING to a compiled version with elf 
that until the route for riscpcs is clear.. maybe a.out ought to 
stay.. my humble opinion

on the other tack.. I can now compile and install both binutils and egcs for
arm-linuxaout successfully.. BUT once using these I get a series of errors
about missing items.. e.g. _fxstat.   I suspect I am doing something very
silly..
have you any idea what?

Many thanks
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Russell King wrote:

>Why is it necessary to drop it?

It isn't, necessarily.  I'm trying to have the ELF stuff merged for the next 
(presumably 2.10) release of binutils, and it may turn out to be hard to get 
this done without losing a.out, mostly because some of the necessary 
assignments are missing (I've been trying for months now to get them in place 
and sooner or later I have to give up).

In any case, this won't happen tomorrow or next week and it's not likely even 
to be next month.  I just wanted to get a feeling for how many people wanted 
the support kept so I didn't waste effort on redundant code.  I think the
conclusion is that a significant number of people think it's still useful.  
Thanks to all those who responded.

p.


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Philip Blundell said:
> How many people would be upset if support for linux/arm a.out was dropped in 
> the next major revision of binutils?

Why is it necessary to drop it?

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Hi,

A few problems cropped up in egcs 1.1.1 so I've made a new patch.  You can 
find it in the usual directory (vger.rutgers.edu:/pub/gcc/arm).  This needs to 
be applied *on top of* the previous patch.  Briefly, this does:

 - build libgcc.a as PIC (otherwise disaster strikes with shared libs)
 - fix weird behaviour with multilibs when apcs-32 is default
 - libgcc doesn't require libc to be installed (this time for sure)

I'll try and make an RPM available tomorrow for NetWinder people, and if I feel
really fired up maybe a .deb as well.  Share and enjoy.

p.


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Thank you for your suggestion.  The /sbin/init on Netwinder
I copied over was a QMAGIC a.out statically linked image.
It failed for some unknown reason...

Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> 
> Hi, can I suggest that you try a statically linked init first?  This
> should help reduce the number of things which can go wrong.

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I've seen an error like this building another GNU package lately.
Try running make with RANLIB specified, e.g. " make
RANLIB=arm-linux-ranlib" or something like that.  That seemed to fix the
problem, but it depends on various configuration scripts using RANLIB
instead of hard coding ranlib name.

Good luck!

James J. Farmer wrote:
> 
> In a message sent at Sun, 22 Nov 1998 18:11:18 +0000,
>      Chris Sawer (chris.sawer@usa.net) said:
> 
> > Indeed - there is (luckily) another way to get this to work and that is to
> > compile ld statically. (BTW, you need to do the same with "ar"). Stefan
> > Hanske <shanske@ix.urz-heidelberg.de> explained this to me a while ago:
> 
>  [snip]
> 
> > Hope this helps,
> 
> Thanks!  That all sounds rather possible...  however, I have hit another
> problem.  I deleted my binutils source tree yesterday when I ran out of
> disc space (despite having installed next to nothing in my 700Mb!).  Anyway,
> "no problem", I thought, "I'll just download it again and re-build it."  And
> so I downloaded Binutils 2.9.1.0.15 along with the appropriate patch, just
> like I did before, applied the patch, ran the configure file, typed "make"...
> and all went seemingly to plan until it started to compile the stuff in
> the "binutils" directory, when this happened...
> 
>   make[1]: Entering directory `/root/binutils-2.9.1.0.15/binutils'
>   /bin/sh ./libtool --mode=link gcc -g -O2  -o size  size.o bucomm.o version.o filemode.o ../bfd/libbfd.la ../libiberty/libiberty.a
>   gcc -g -O2 -o size size.o bucomm.o version.o filemode.o ../bfd/.libs/libbfd.a ../libiberty/libiberty.a
>   ../bfd/.libs/libbfd.a: could not read symbols: Archive has no index; run ranlib to add one
>   make[1]: *** [size] Error 1
>   make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/binutils-2.9.1.0.15/binutils'
>   make: *** [all-binutils] Error 2
> 
> Oo-er - it worked before!  Anyway, I've tried running ranlib on the offending
> file about twenty zillion times but it never stops me from getting this
> same error...  I've tried using the targets "arm-linux" and "arm-linuxaout"
> but no joy.  And I'm afraid that once again I've exceeded my knowledge of
> Linux...  my best guess is that something that was installed when I last
> built binutils is for some reason not working with binutils itself, which
> seems a touch daft but it was the only thing I could think of.  The only
> other changes to my system since my last successful build are that I've
> installed Chimera, Afterstep and Freeciv, none of which I can in a month
> of Sundays imagine causing problems like this.
> 
> I hate to off-load my problems onto you people, but...  I'm stuck.  I'm
> very very stuck.  I'm very very stuck indeed.
> 
> All suggestions gratefully received...
> 
> James.
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I have noticed that netwinder code has a few low level things done
differently (start address is 0xc000c000 instead of 0xc0008000 and they
have bunch of specific assembly code setup in headXXX.S  for netwinder,
etc.)  Other than that, it seems that NetWinder is fairly similar to a
stock EBSA285 (with many things added to it of course).

I really would rather much prefer using Russell's tree, because his code
is the "official" tree and I like the overall consideration to different
board support better (for example, you can configure for different board
targets, as opposed to netwinder kernel release I have here which
defaults to VNC when you make config).  2.1.X PCI support also seems to
be better over all...

I've tried using various copies of sh binaries with no success.  A kind
person has just sent me a copy of sh that I can try this morning. 
Apparently this one works so I will give it a go... more later.

Thanks again to all who responded!


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John Ballance wrote:

...

The same message, around 8 or so times, from what I can tell :-) Or
maybe the list is just going crazy.
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> >Peripherals also need their IO and memory access bits set correctly.  If you'd
> >care to read the code, you'll notice that the Netwinder port sets up the PCI
> 
> Thinking about it more I think this argument is spurious.  The driver should 
> probably be responsible for setting the I/O and memory bits as well.

Think about shared PCI busses where some drivers are on each system board.
Linux drivers expect the PCI to be set up in advance 
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On Tue, 24 Nov 1998, Philip Blundell wrote:

> >No complaints, *if* you have ELF working on 26-bit machines. :)
> 
> It should do.  Just needs someone with the enthusiasm to try it really.
Just acquired an Ether3 board, so I can finally try running things on my
A440/1 again worth a damn. I might get around to giving it a shot.

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Philip Blundell writes:
> >Peripherals also need their IO and memory access bits set correctly.  If you'd
> >care to read the code, you'll notice that the Netwinder port sets up the PCI
> 
> Thinking about it more I think this argument is spurious.  The driver should 
> probably be responsible for setting the I/O and memory bits as well.

There appear to be some drivers that take these bits as 'enabled', and will
specifically not initialise if they're not set (eg, all PCI IDE, rz1000, etc).

Hmm, in fact, it looks like most PCI drivers look at the IO and memory enabled
bits, and skip devices that aren't enabled.  Maybe there's a reason...
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sorry folks.. sent once, received many times!!!

JB

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> ....
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> The same message, around 8 or so times, from what I can tell :-) Or
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What about support for a 2nd processor with ARMLinux? Perhaps we could
even be able to run x86 binaries? And even if this is complete rubbish,
what about using the pc card's floating point unit?

Greetings,

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>There appear to be some drivers that take these bits as 'enabled', and will
>specifically not initialise if they're not set (eg, all PCI IDE, rz1000, etc).

Mmm, that's true.  I've never quite understood why that's the case and IMHO 
it's broken -- but regardless of that, the consensus seems to be that as Alan 
says Linux drivers expect PCI to be set up in advance.  Fair enough I guess.

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In a message sent at Tue, 24 Nov 1998 09:36:33 -0800,
     Hwa Jin Bae (hjb@pso.com) said:

> I've seen an error like this building another GNU package lately.
> Try running make with RANLIB specified, e.g. " make
> RANLIB=arm-linux-ranlib" or something like that.  That seemed to fix the
> problem, but it depends on various configuration scripts using RANLIB
> instead of hard coding ranlib name.

Thanks...  I tried "make RANLIB=/usr/arm-linux/bin/ranlib" and I saw that
file referenced several times in the compiler output so I guess it gets
used...  unfortunately, it didn't fix the problem.  But thanks for trying
anyway.

I then tried using the ranlib in /usr/arm-unknown-linuxaout/bin/ranlib on
the offending library...  still no joy.  All the versions of ranlib I have
seem to update the datestamp on the file so presumably they do something,
but what is obviously not enough to appease the compiler.

*sigh*  All I want for Christmas is my two front teeth and a version of
Linux in which everything compiles first time with no problems.  ;)

James Farmer.
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Hi 

Having manifestly failed to get a riscpc system to compile linux kernels
OR egcs, I am
wondering whether I would have better luck cross compiling from a pc
platform
(redhat 5.1).  

Is there anything I need to know for this?

Many thanks.. 
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On Tue, 24 Nov 1998, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote:

> Philip Blundell writes:
> > >Peripherals also need their IO and memory access bits set correctly.  If you'd
> > >care to read the code, you'll notice that the Netwinder port sets up the PCI
> > 
> > Thinking about it more I think this argument is spurious.  The driver should 
> > probably be responsible for setting the I/O and memory bits as well.
> 
> There appear to be some drivers that take these bits as 'enabled', and will
> specifically not initialise if they're not set (eg, all PCI IDE, rz1000, etc).
> 
> Hmm, in fact, it looks like most PCI drivers look at the IO and memory enabled
> bits, and skip devices that aren't enabled.  Maybe there's a reason...
Presumably, on a PC, this is how the BIOS sets various PCI devices as
enabled or disabled, and you wouldn't want Linux to override that
behaviour or you'd end up in all sorts of trouble. Makes sense if the PCI
drivers are basically checking to see if the BIOS has enabled the device
or not (certainly for IDE, multi-I/O, that sort of thing).

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In message <48aab2996fbellonsn@trick.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de>, Stefan Bello
n writes:
>What about support for a 2nd processor with ARMLinux? Perhaps we could
>even be able to run x86 binaries? And even if this is complete rubbish,
>what about using the pc card's floating point unit?

Are you volunteering to write the code?

p.


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I've thought about the possibilities for asymmetric multiprocessing.  it's
a moderately interesting idea.  the main problem is that the x86 card has
no way of causing an interrupt to be delivered to the ARM - so you can't
really run one kernel on the machine.  though I guess the ARM can interrupt
the x86 so you could run the x86 kernel and have the ARM as the subordinate
processor.  i've been talking to Jes Sorensen (of linux/68k) about this
since he has something similar - PowerPC & M68k in the same machine.

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> >There appear to be some drivers that take these bits as 'enabled', and will
> >specifically not initialise if they're not set (eg, all PCI IDE, rz1000, etc).

[Think "turned off is bios and the chipset cant disable slots completely"]

> Mmm, that's true.  I've never quite understood why that's the case and IMHO 
> it's broken -- but regardless of that, the consensus seems to be that as Alan 
> says Linux drivers expect PCI to be set up in advance.  Fair enough I guess.

One reason they need to be set up in advance is that they share resources
with other logical busses that may need to know in advance what resources
they can use - a good example is i2o - the bios tells the i2o controller
what block of address space/i/o space it can have for its devices. 
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From: Werner Almesberger <almesber@lrc.di.epfl.ch>
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Subject: Re: Cross compiling arm kernels
To: jwb@castle-technology.co.uk (John Ballance)
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John Ballance wrote:
> Having manifestly failed to get a riscpc system to compile linux kernels
> OR egcs, I am
> wondering whether I would have better luck cross compiling from a pc
> platform
> (redhat 5.1).  
> 
> Is there anything I need to know for this?

egcs/binutils binaries (i386 -> arm-linux; RH4.2, but should also work on
RH5.1, etc.) in:
ftp://lrcftp/pub/people/almesber/psion/xdev-0.tar.gz

egcs/binutils build instructions in:
ftp://lrcftp/pub/people/almesber/psion/xdev-0.README

Kernel build instructions in README of:
ftp://lrcftp/pub/people/almesber/psion/boot-6.tar.gz

Kernel patch in (*):
ftp://lrcftp/pub/people/almesber/psion/crash+burn-4.patch.gz

(* use this patch as a reference only. Don't apply it as a whole. It adds
   many Psion/Geofox specific things which you don't need. All you should
   need are the changes to the Makefile, i.e. the addition of the arm-linux
   prefix.)

- Werner

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> a moderately interesting idea.  the main problem is that the x86 card has
> no way of causing an interrupt to be delivered to the ARM - so you can't
> really run one kernel on the machine.  though I guess the ARM can interrupt
> the x86 so you could run the x86 kernel and have the ARM as the subordinate
> processor.  i've been talking to Jes Sorensen (of linux/68k) about this
> since he has something similar - PowerPC & M68k in the same machine.

As a dual kernel system no cross IRQ is doable - use a ring buffer for
communcation and poll on timer ticks. I wouldnt mind betting there is
some shared peripheral you can rig to interrupt the other CPU if misused
suitably


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I have a Powertec SCSI 3 card and a SCSI disk. Does the kernel support
SCSI disk based installations and does it support the card? All help
is appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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Chris Pringle writes:
> I have a Powertec SCSI 3 card and a SCSI disk. Does the kernel support
> SCSI disk based installations and does it support the card? All help
> is appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Paul Vigay is currently (or will be shortly) testing my ARM Linux CD which
fully supports the Powertec card I have here (can't remember which version
it is, but I don't think it's the SCSI 3).

Are you able to use the card with Linux and the supplied Powertec driver?
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>Thanks...  I tried "make RANLIB=/usr/arm-linux/bin/ranlib" and I saw that
>file referenced several times in the compiler output so I guess it gets
>used...  unfortunately, it didn't fix the problem.  But thanks for trying
>anyway.
>
>I then tried using the ranlib in /usr/arm-unknown-linuxaout/bin/ranlib on
>the offending library...  still no joy.  All the versions of ranlib I have
>seem to update the datestamp on the file so presumably they do something,
>but what is obviously not enough to appease the compiler.

You have to use the right version of ranlib for the compiler in question.  I 
forget exactly what it is you're trying to do, but basically:

/usr/arm-*-linux/bin/* are your Linux/ARM ELF tools
/usr/arm-*-linuxaout/bin/* are your Linux/ARM a.out tools
/usr/bin/* are the "native" tools for whatever system you're using

If everything is installed correctly and you configured with the right 
--prefix, --build, --host and CC settings, the right versions of the other 
tools should get picked up automatically.  If this isn't happening then you 
probably need to try to figure out why rather than battling on by setting 
RANLIB manually.

p.


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In a message sent at Fri, 27 Nov 1998 20:33:40 +0100,
     Philip Blundell (philb@gnu.org) said:

> You have to use the right version of ranlib for the compiler in question.  I 
> forget exactly what it is you're trying to do, but basically:
>
> /usr/arm-*-linux/bin/* are your Linux/ARM ELF tools
> /usr/arm-*-linuxaout/bin/* are your Linux/ARM a.out tools
> /usr/bin/* are the "native" tools for whatever system you're using

*nod*  I basically tried all the different versions of Ranlib I could find
because I was getting desparate.

> If everything is installed correctly and you configured with the right
> --prefix, --build, --host and CC settings, the right versions of the other 
> tools should get picked up automatically.  If this isn't happening then you 
> probably need to try to figure out why rather than battling on by setting 
> RANLIB manually.

That sounds sensible...  however, I've tried every version of ranlib I can
find and none of them work, so I'm not sure it's the problem...

What I'm actually trying to do is compile EGCS on and for Arm Linux
installed on a StrongARM Risc PC so I can use ELF.  I patched Binutils
and did the following:

  ./configure arm-linux --prefix=/usr
  make
  make install

And all was well.  Then I tried to compile EGCS as per the instructions on
your webpage, and it gave me the error:

  /usr/arm-unknown-linuxaout/bin/ld: final link failed: Memory exhausted

Chris Sawer very helpfully suggested that I needed to link ld statically,
and detailed a way I could create a workable version of ld (and ar) using
binutils - but unfortunately I'd deleted the binutils source tree and so
I'd have to download it and recompile it.  This is where things started
to go wrong...  I downloaded the tree and patched it, then did

  ./configure arm-linux --prefix=/usr

And all seemed well.  But then when I tried "make", I was left looking at
(several pages of error-free output deleted):

  make[1]: Entering directory `/root/binutils-2.9.1.0.15/binutils'
  /bin/sh ./libtool --mode=link gcc -g -O2  -o size  size.o bucomm.o version.o filemode.o ../bfd/libbfd.la ../libiberty/libiberty.a 
  gcc -g -O2 -o size size.o bucomm.o version.o filemode.o ../bfd/.libs/libbfd.a ../libiberty/libiberty.a
  ../bfd/.libs/libbfd.a: could not read symbols: Archive has no index; run ranlib to add one
  make[1]: *** [size] Error 1
  make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/binutils-2.9.1.0.15/binutils'
  make: *** [all-binutils] Error 2

And no matter how many times I run ranlib (any version of ranlib I can find)
on that 'libbfd.a' file, it makes not a blind bit of difference.

I'm not too sure why I'm reiterating all this, actually.  Ah well,

James.
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I am having quite a few problems installing ARMLinux on my SCSI SyJet drive.
I have been following Paul Vigay's excellent guide to installation, with 
the necessary modifications for a SCSI installation.  My drive is connected
via a Powertek SCSI II card. My system is a 32Mb/2Mb RiscPC600 with a SA110.


My first problem was creating the partitions on the SCSI drive.  I 
partitioned my disc into two halves, and used the BB_RiscBD SCSI/powertek 
partition fix recommended in a mail to this list in June by Tom Palmer, then 
when I use PartMan to create the Linux partitions (ADFS,Linux Table, Linux
Native, Linux Swap). Running PartMan a second time shows that the partitions 
were not set up correctly, so I set them up again.  This time, PartMan 
insists on overlapping the ADFS partition with the Linux Table and Native 
partitions.  So I turned to the alpha PartMan release. This does not have 
the overlapping partition problem, but doesn't appear to create a Linux 
Table partition (at least it isn't listed), so there is one less partition 
on the disc (ADFS, Linux Native, Linux Swap). 

I decided to go ahead and do the Linux Installation anyway, and booted of
the floppy, loaded the supplemental disc as recommended in Paul's guide. 
When it comes to copying the RPMS directory to the Linux Native partition 
now to be on sdb2, I had to modify the process slightly.  Rather than copy
the file when the installation is at the 'Installation Path' window (step 45
in Paul's instructions) I found that my SCSI devices were not found until
I had told the installer I had a powertek SCSI device, and had it autodetect
the connected drives.  Now I could create /dev/sdb2, create the file system
copy the RPMS and go on to the swap drive initialisation.  This was my next
major stumbling block. The installer cannot find the swap partition, does
not seem to find sdb3 at all. I finally solved this by repartitioning my 
SCSI drive, but this time, creating 3 partitions, one ADFS and two empty. I
ran BB_RiscBSD as before, and used the alpha version of PartMan to set up
the two partitions as Native and Swap respectively.  I then retraced all my
steps (i.e. copying all files etc :-( ) and this time the installer found my
swap drive and initiallised it without problems.

I now found I could follow the installation without any changes (after 
remembering to load the base and instim tar files into the RedHat directory!)
The installer unpacked the distribution and went on to ask me about my 
keyboard, mouse, timezone, and asked for my password.  It seemed that I'd
cracked it!  As expected I got the 'I couldn't find a kernel' error, and I
resync'ed the drives and rebooted. If I now run the linux application booting
from a kernel in an ADFS partition like before, but now specifying my root
device as 'root=/dev/sdb2' at the 'extra arguments' prompt, the installation
halts (after listing attached devices) with an error message:

Kernel panic: VFS: could not mount the root fs on [08:12]

(the cursor is still flashing at this point btw)

This is a bit irritating putting it mildly. 

Assuming that the numbers in square brackets are the major and minor numbers
of the root device, I was surprised that they weren't [08:18] for sdb2. I
tried fooling the system by entering /dev/sdb8 at the extra arguments prompt
but whilst the correct major and minor numbers were now used, the same error
occurred.

If I go back into the Linux installation to the point after telling the
installer that I have a powertek SCSI interface, I can make the /dev/sdb2
node myself, mount the partition onto /hd (or whatever), and check that all
the files are still there (they are), so the partition itself seems fine.

Should I assume that the standard kernel (and the Linux boot application) 
are not capable of booting up a root device from SCSI? If this is the case,
is it possible to compile a kernel that recognises the Powertek set up? and
could some kind soul do this for me? (since clearly I cannot).

If I use the Linux application to boot up directly (rather than booting from 
floppy) I get the 'invalid bmap magic in first sector of partition' error.
I used the recommended steps in the FAQ, I.e. create a /etc/boot.conf file
and run loadmap to try to remedy this.  Since I cannot mount sdb2 as root,
I had to use the -r and -R parameters of loadmap to create the bmap on the
device mounted to a subdirectory (it did seem to work, but who can tell?)
I still get the invalid bmap error however.

Is it not possible to create a valid bmap table unless the proposed root 
device is already mounted as root? (which I can't do).

If I use the alpha version of the Linux application, I get an invalid Linux
partition error instead of the bmap magic error (I tried several different
partition numbers just in case).

I would be grateful for any advice for things to try, especially from people
who have succesfully installed ARMLinux on a powertek SCSI II system.


Chris
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I have only recently subscribed to this list, and have looked up the list
archives for problems with the Matshita CD rom drives. There was a thread 
about problems with these drives in July, but unfortunately, the archive 
stops abruptly at the end of that month, so I don't know what the end result
was.  Is there any way of getting Linux to boot whilst one of these drives
are connected?

Thanks

Chris
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In message <48AC1D1221%mat@pocket-rocket.eu.org> you wrote:

> In message <617b14ac48%Linux@nhal.demon.co.uk> you wrote:
> 
> > I have only recently subscribed to this list, and have looked up the list
> > archives for problems with the Matshita CD rom drives. There was a thread 
> > about problems with these drives in July, but unfortunately, the archive 
> > stops abruptly at the end of that month, so I don't know what the end result
> > was.  Is there any way of getting Linux to boot whilst one of these drives
> > are connected?
> 
> Er... you could enter "hdb=noprobe" at the extra commands prompt although
> you won't be able to access the CD ROM under Linux.
> 

Thanks for the suggestion Mat, unfortunately it doesn't work :-(.  If the CD 
rom is connected and I run without the hdb=noprobe line, the kernel crashes on 
the line starting hdb: Matshita CD Rom drive, spawn of hell etc. etc
If I type hdb=noprobe as Mat suggests, the kernel crashes on the line before,
starting 'hda:' and listing all the stats of my Conner IDEFS drive.  We're 
talking a complete crash here btw, no cursor and little blue button time. I'm
sure I'm not the only one to find this behaviour a little bizarre....

I have no problems if I disconnect the CD Rom drive itself, well, actually I do
for which see my other posting... :-) but it gets past this bit anyway.

Chris
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In a message sent at Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:58:07 +0000,
     Chris Nelson (Linux@nhal.demon.co.uk) said:

> I have only recently subscribed to this list, and have looked up the list
> archives for problems with the Matshita CD rom drives. There was a thread 
> about problems with these drives in July, but unfortunately, the archive 
> stops abruptly at the end of that month, so I don't know what the end result
> was.  Is there any way of getting Linux to boot whilst one of these drives
> are connected?

As I recall, the solution was to use the extra argument:

  ide0=0x1f0,0x3f0,9

Well, that works for me at any rate.  :)

James.
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>What I'm actually trying to do is compile EGCS on and for Arm Linux
>installed on a StrongARM Risc PC so I can use ELF.  I patched Binutils
>and did the following:
>
>  ./configure arm-linux --prefix=/usr
>  make
>  make install

Installing that binutils will have overwritten your a.out tools in /usr/bin 
with the ELF versions, but your compiler and all your libraries will still 
be a.out.  This isn't disaster for gcc because it looks in the more specific 
directories first but anything else looking for tools is liable to get the 
wrong ones.

>  gcc -g -O2 -o size size.o bucomm.o version.o filemode.o ../bfd/.libs/libbfd.
>a ../libiberty/libiberty.a
>  ../bfd/.libs/libbfd.a: could not read symbols: Archive has no index; run ran
>lib to add one

I suspect what happened is that libtool picked up the ELF version of ar rather 
than the a.out one that you still need at this stage.  Look through the `make' 
output and check if this is the case; if it is, you may need to hack 
config.make or something to make it use the right one.

If you're still stuck then I guess you need to look at the offending library 
and see if you can work out what's wrong with it (things like "is it zero 
length" would be a good starting point...)

p.


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