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John Ballance writes:
> Phil suggested enabling block char devices.. this got over the problem 
> with char/selection.c.. it is only used with char devices... but its 
> still an incorrect piece of code.. FYI

Indeed.  I'll look into it once I've finished characterising an apparant
as yet unknown SA110 rev. S hardware bug for Intel which has been causing
other people grief for the past month.

> I actually got as far as a zImage or a vmlinux yesterday eve.. BUT
> loader suggested it could not understand the zimage compression method, 
> and vmlinux just froze in early boot.  Does the loader have to be elf
> aware?.. 

No.  The zImage file contains it's own decompression code, which should
be ok.  I haven't checked .126 on the RiscPC, and I'm now on .129, but
I'm not in a position whereby I can compile it for the RiscPC (I'm
currently working on the Netwinder port, and to switch over will take
out several evenings).

Could you supply version numbers, and the exact error messages you see
please?  I tend to be quite particular about both these points.

> now.. I still cannot get to a rpc hosted compile environment for 2.1.126.. 
> blow ups left/right/centre in trying to get phil's suggested things running

I can't help on that - I'm not even using Phil's tools yet on the RiscPC,
and my tools are hacked up GCC 2.7.2.2 and binutils 2.7 for ELF, both of
which I don't want to go to the hastle of releasing for many reasons, one
major one is that the files they produce are totally incompatable with the
 ARM ELF standard. (they were purely to get the 2.1 kernels rolling).

> Is there any way to get a working system with current working compilers 
> etc for 2.1.126 for riscpc on a disc?..e.g. a single tar-gz on a zip disc? 
> this would really help. I would even consider the prospect of grabbing 
> several tens of Mb via the net if this would simplify things...

I'm not sure...

> n.b. i note a considerable difference in speed between redhat 5.1 on i686 and
> what we have on the rpc.. wherein lies the main slowness.. is it an 
> inappropriate cache on the SA, or something more mundane???

The RiscPC:

1. Does not support StrongARM's half-word operations, resulting in more
   code required to do the same job.

2. The bus speed is slow.

3. The IDE interface is really slow (1.5MB/s) compared with a PC at 3-10MB/s.

4. The RiscPC display is not character based, so requires a lot of
   processor power to manipulate it (especially when you have a VT100
   scrolling region enabled).

Basically, IMHO the RiscPC is usable, but there are faster machines on the
market.  It is actually interesting to note that the RiscPC is faster at
some things than PCI based machines at the moment, but I'm not going to go
into that here, except to quote a (formatted and spellchecked) mail I've just
read from the Corel mailing lists:

  > One way to answer this question would be to give the equivilent in
  > terms of a Pentium or PowerPC architecutre.  Is the SA-110 275MHz
  > processor equivilent to a penitum 275MHz in integer performance?

  Pretty much. I some areas it's faster (when you can take advantage of
  simultaneous shift & op for example) and in others it will be slower
  (smaller simpler cache) but overall it always seemsa pretty good match.

  Until you come to FP.... however, it looks as if the ARM10 architecture
  finally solves that little problem albeit at some cost in power
  consumption and die size. If Intel ever release it, the SA1500 also has
  hardware support for FP by virtue of a on-chip coporocessor DSP unit.
  It is claimed that a 300MHz version would offer a total of 1500mips!
  Things like decoding two MPEG-2 streams in realtime are claimed.

> On Tue, 01 Dec, Russell King  wrote:
> > It will *always* appear to those who have normal working hours
> > that any mail sent to me will take one day for a reply to reach
> > them.
> 
> I wasn't worried about the *odd* day's delay.. it is just that its nice to
> actually get a response from someone wrt the arm port of linux.. so far I've
> wasted a great deal of time fighting the system to (so far unsuccessfully)
> get to the point where I can compile kernel sources, cross or otherwise, for
> current rpc kernels!

I'm sorry, but as I see it, you've only just come into the domain that I
know about, as of the weekend.  Hence, as far as I'm concerned, I've only
delayed answering one of your mails.
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unix+rogers21@pop3.mail.demon.net writes:
> 1. When I install RedHat and get the Kernel not found error, where is 
> the setup program looking for the kernel, so that I can put it in the 
> right place and finish the installation properly

The install program is actually looking for the presence of a package.
If you supply the package to the program when it gets to that point,
it won't see it (it needs to be there when it scans the packages first
time round).

I do have a CD which has a complete (and I think) working distribution
on, but I'm currently waiting on Paul to let me know if it works or not.

> 2.  This is possibly linked in the previous question but where do I 
> put the kernel that I heve compiled for the computer to boot the new 
> kernel as oppose to the old one.

I keep mine in /boot on the root filesystem.
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> unix+rogers21@pop3.mail.demon.net writes:
> > 1. When I install RedHat and get the Kernel not found error, where is 
> > the setup program looking for the kernel, so that I can put it in the 
> > right place and finish the installation properly
> 
> The install program is actually looking for the presence of a package.
> If you supply the package to the program when it gets to that point,
> it won't see it (it needs to be there when it scans the packages first
> time round).
> 
> I do have a CD which has a complete (and I think) working distribution
> on, but I'm currently waiting on Paul to let me know if it works or not.
> 
> > 2.  This is possibly linked in the previous question but where do I 
> > put the kernel that I heve compiled for the computer to boot the new 
> > kernel as oppose to the old one.
> 
> I keep mine in /boot on the root filesystem.

unix+rogers21@pop3.mail.demon.net: if you want any help, fix your mail address.
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Subject: Re: Matshita CD rom drive problems
To: Linux@nhal.demon.co.uk (Chris Nelson)
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Chris Nelson writes:
>...
> > Er... you could enter "hdb=noprobe" at the extra commands prompt although
> > you won't be able to access the CD ROM under Linux.
> > 
> 
> Thanks for the suggestion Mat, unfortunately it doesn't work :-(.

Another helpful argument could be "hdb=none", which will tell Linux
not to probe, or even touch the second IDE device.  Does this help?

I believe that the problem with the Matshita drive comes down to interrupt
differences, and because some IDE devices appear broken (you tell them to
disable their interrupt, so rather than forcing it to be inactive, it
goes permanently active).  I would like at some point to prove this
theory with this drive though...
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Russell King wrote:

>There is now /a/ 2.1.128 development kernel on the FTP site.  It is highly
>experimental, and has major changes in it.  I am still working hard on this
>kernel to get it into a reasonable state, and therefore it's only linked in
>as 'DEV', not 'LATEST'.
>
>You can expect a cleaner kernel patch this Sunday.

Any idea when this cleaner patch might be ready?

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I have got up to step 53 on Paul Vigay's guide to installing linux
and am stuck.
   The installer says that it cannot find the linux swap partition
even though I have created it with !Partman.
   Any help appreciated.  I am using the latest versions of the
kernel and root file, and am using the RPMS files from the clan cd.
My system is a StrongARM RPC using 32 MBytes of memory and a 4.2
Gigabyte harddisc.

-- 
David Welch
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Thanks to those who posted suggestions to solve this problem.  I've found that
the ide0=0x1f0,0x3f6,9 line works fine.  So well in fact that I didn't try
the alternative: ide0=0x1f0,0x3f0,9 at all, do both of these allow you access 
to the CDROM? I'll probably be able to find this out for myself once I've tried
every permutation of ide0, hdb, cd1, iso9660 and cd9660 in a mount command :-)

In the meantime, back to that kernel compilation...


Cheerio

Chris
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Dear All,

As a follow up to my previous post (the only one so far <sob>), I've decided
that it simply isn't possible to install Linux with a root partition on a
Powertek SCSI II drive.  At least, not with the existing default kernel/
Linux Loader.  I'd like some confirmation of this is anyone else has tried 
it.

The problem seems to be when exactly the SCSI support is available.  As far
as I can tell, this only occurs after the kernel modules are loaded, which 
presumably is after the root partition has already been mounted.  In which 
case, its fairly obvious that you can't have a root partition on a SCSI 
device. 

The only possibility that presents itself, is to compile a kernel with built 
in SCSI support (I'm using the powertek module at present, loaded by 
rc.sysinit during the boot process), and keep this new built kernel on the 
Filecore partition, then using the appropriate configuration for the !Linux 
application, it may be possible to mount a SCSI partition as root. Does
anyone have any idea if this would work? (I am trying it, but am having
kernel compilation problems at present).

I have, however, succesfully installed Linux using the SCSI drive for two 
ext2 partitions (/usr and /var) and the swap device, used in conjunction 
with a small root partition on my tiny IDEFS drive.  If anyone is interested 
in trying this, I would be happy to share the experience :-)

Cheers

Chris

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>up after sorting out this problem with Intel.  (If my suspicions are true,
>then it'll require a gruesome compiler hack which will increase the APCS 
>function entry considerably to reliably get around the problem).

What do you think the bug is, then?

>(since my sources must remain constant so that the problem is reproduceable).

I don't quite understand how this relates to `let(ting) on what it is'.

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Philip Blundell writes:
> Russell King wrote:
> >There is now /a/ 2.1.128 development kernel on the FTP site.  It is highly
> >experimental, and has major changes in it.  I am still working hard on this
> >kernel to get it into a reasonable state, and therefore it's only linked in
> >as 'DEV', not 'LATEST'.
> >
> >You can expect a cleaner kernel patch this Sunday.
> 
> Any idea when this cleaner patch might be ready?

When I have the time to pull the stuff back together and the time to clean it
up after sorting out this problem with Intel.  (If my suspicions are true, then
it'll require a gruesome compiler hack which will increase the APCS function
entry considerably to reliably get around the problem).  However, I'm not going
to let on what it is until I've finished with it (since my sources must remain
constant so that the problem is reproduceable).

Intel and myself are currently looking into this problem.
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>The only possibility that presents itself, is to compile a kernel with built 
>in SCSI support (I'm using the powertek module at present, loaded by 
>rc.sysinit during the boot process), and keep this new built kernel on the 
>Filecore partition, then using the appropriate configuration for the !Linux 
>application, it may be possible to mount a SCSI partition as root. Does
>anyone have any idea if this would work? (I am trying it, but am having

It should be OK, yes.

p.



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Philip Blundell writes:
> >The only possibility that presents itself, is to compile a kernel with built 
> >in SCSI support (I'm using the powertek module at present, loaded by 
> >rc.sysinit during the boot process), and keep this new built kernel on the 
> >Filecore partition, then using the appropriate configuration for the !Linux 
> >application, it may be possible to mount a SCSI partition as root. Does
> >anyone have any idea if this would work? (I am trying it, but am having
> 
> It should be OK, yes.

I do have an install CD image sitting on my machines here at home just waiting
to be burnt onto CD ROMs, however I have heard no stories of success or failure
from the guy who's supposed to be testing it as yet (and that as a week or more
ago).

Come on guys, I'm not going to do /all/ the work.  I'll happily write CDs and
take money for them once I know that the CD works, but I refuse to accept any
requests for the CD if it isn't tested as working.  (and this has my bug bear
about the Acorn community for a good couple of years now - present company (Phil)
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Hi All.

Here is a (slightly) copy of my mail I sent ARM/Intel on Monday.  Enjoy - it
could explain a lot of problems.

Further to this, I have been able to confirm that switching off the data cache
clears the following problems:

1. Random corruption of r5 in schedule(), which causes the kernel to panic
   in the idle task.

2. Allows the tulip driver to work on the EBSA-285 architecture.

3. Random segmentation violations with Corel's binaries.

I personally have not verified 2) and 3) are related to this exact problem, but
certainly turning off the cache seems to fix it, and since 2) gives similar
behaviour, I think it's highly likely that this one is.  However, 3) could
be something to do with the ELF stuff, but I don't think this would be caused
by the tests I have conducted.

I shall be only releasing this as PRELIMINARY, ie, I reserve the right to be
totally wrong, but I think that people using the chip ought to know about a
possible problem.

		     * * * * * PRELIMINARY * * * * *

After the weekends work on the Linux kernel, I am convinced that I have found
a bug in the SA110 revision S processor.  My reasons are this:

1. Dave Gilbert has been experiencing random crashes with 2.1.126 on his EBSA285
   with tulip netcard driver, which only occur with the data cache on.  Any
   attempt to add debugging causes the nature of the problem to change.

   If I supply Dave a kernel configured for his machine compiled using my
   GCC 2.7.2.2 ELF tools (which I trust), he sees the same problem.  However,
   if I compile up an EBSA285 kernel, well - it's been running for 28 days
   without one single problem now.

2. In 2.1.129 recently, I have been getting data aborts in schedule().
   On close investigation, it appears that the code sequence, aligned
   as follows causes the SA110S to misbehave:

   r4 = c00ff6c0 r5 = c00ffc40 r6 = 00000000
      schedule:
c0018ba4:	mov ip, sp
c0018ba8:	stmfd sp!, {r4, r5, r6, fp, ip, lr, pc}
c0018bac:	sub fp, ip, #4			;  sp = c00fdf4c
c0018bb0:	bic r5, sp, #0x1f00
c0018bb4:	bic r5, r5, #0xff

   While this code executes as expected 99% of the time, the SA110S appears
   to under some bizarre circumstance miss the instruction at c0018bb0.
   As a result, r5 ends up containing c00ffc00, NOT c00fc000.

   The problem appears to be dependent on the alignment of this routine,
   the number of instructions between the stmfd and the first bic, and
   the registers used.  As a result, I believe that it is an interaction
   between the Icache, and the stmfd instruction.

   There has already been one instance of Icache and stm interaction causing
   problems - the stmia ..., {r8-pc}^ instruction (which stores both non-user
   mode (r8 - r12) and user mode (sp, lr) registers, which ARM Linux already
   avoids.

   I have not noticed this problem until now because I normally use my
   special GCC 2.7.2.2 ELF for ARM, which does not optimise to the same
   level (and inserts an extra instruction between the sub and the bic).

3. A vdir /usr -R > /dev/null on the Netwinder under the above mentioned 2.1.129
   kernel (but with the assembler modified to prevent this bug) appears to
   cause a lot of segmentation violations.  Turning off the data cache (only)
   cures this problem.

		     * * * * * PRELIMINARY * * * * *

Disclaimer:  Testing is still in progress.  I reserve the right to be wrong.
  Hence, this may not be a processor problem at all.

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A few people have written to me recently complaining that the latest egcs 
snapshots don't successfully build for Linux/ARM systems.  The reason for this 
is that the merge of the code isn't yet finished (it got held up by 
non-technical problems).  At the moment you're better off sticking to the
1.1.1 release.

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Hi All,

The ARM patches for 2.1.131 are now on the FTP site.  Note that this patch
doesn't appear to work well on the Corel Netwinders, and I believe that it'll
be unreliable on StrongARM rev. S chips (problem being investigated, but it's
looking like a hardware problem).

On the Dave Gilbert's EBSA285, the kernel is panicing in random places in the
kernel (with some quite entertaining PC and LR values (eg, pc : [<c1b3d22c>]
lr : [<466c6c75>] = fllu ).  However, on my EBSA285 without a Tulip ether card,
all seems well.

This patch has not been tested on:
	Acorn RiscPC
	Acorn A5000 series
	Acorn Archimedes series
	EBSA-110s

Enjoy!
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Hi,

this may be a bug in xfm rather than anything else, but nevertheless I
thought I'd let you know that you can only access the top-level
directories of your ADFS partition using xfm. Symbolic links to files
further down the ADFS directory tree work fine, but opening directories
is not possible.

Whenever the attempt to open a directory fails, root gets sent something
like this:

Nov 28 22:19:05 elbereth kernel: ADFS-fs error (device 03:01):
adfs_map_lookup: fragment 2CE0 at offset 192 not found in map (start
zone 45)

I have both ADFS and ext2 on one 3.2G disc on the internal IDE port of
my SA RiscPC (I'm using the 2.0.35 kernel). The partitions are:

0       4082399 1993MB  Filecore
4082400 4082401 1kB     Linux Table
4082402 6236898 1052MB  Linux Native
6236899 6303023 32MB    Linux Swap

All the best,

  Richard

P.S. Russell, is this new CD an ELF distribution? Also, once the CD is
ready, could a copy of the directories and files on it be made available
via the FTP site?
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I just tried to compile Russell's 2.1.131-19981206-2 kernel on the
NetWinder, but the compilation fails with:

entry-armv.S: Assembler messages:
entry-armv.S:645: Error: Invalid constant
entry-armv.S:664: Error: Invalid constant

Line 645:
1:              get_irqnr_and_base r0, r6, r5

Line 664:
1:              get_irqnr_and_base r0, r6, r5

get_irqnr_and_base seems to be defined in line 237:
		.macro get_irqnr_and_base, irqnr, irqstat, base

I'm afraid I don't know enough about the AS syntax to be sure what it's
choking on. Is it a bug in the Corel assembler (I think I have the latest
one they've released) or is there really something wrong with this code?

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I've put a patch against Russell's recent 2.1.131 version at:

	ftp://ftp.netwinder.org/users/p/philb/linux-2.1.131-philb-981207.gz

This contains the majority of the changes from my tree at the moment.  
Specifically, it does:

 - CATS and A5000 compilation fixes
 - fix memory.c bug that kills ARM3 machines
 - Acorn console fixes:
   - fbcon penguin works in 4bpp modes (complete with beer!)
   - acornfb autodetects colour depth in use
   - fbcon-mfb doesn't mirror-image everything
   - try a bit harder to get the palette right in 1bpp modes
 - make 21285 serial console selectable when using char1
 - update defconfig: .init defaults to on
 - ioport.c is removed (it was just a waste of space as far as I can tell)
 - ELF auxiliary info reports SA110 as ARMv4, not v3
 - new ARM3 uaccess code
 - floating point avoider treats RFS like WFS
 - use the right code to print `Uncompressing Linux' on 21285 machines
 - miscellaneous smaller things

Some of this code is not quite ready for prime time -- in particular if you 
turn CONFIG_CATS on you may find that the resulting kernel doesn't work 
properly on an EBSA-285.  But maybe some people will find it interesting 
regardless.

Share and enjoy.

p.


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Richard Atterer schrieb:
[..]
> P.S. Russell, is this new CD an ELF distribution? Also, once the CD is
> ready, could a copy of the directories and files on it be made available
> via the FTP site?

Yes, please. Maybe also an "starter proof" guide how to burn such a CD from
the FTP site without getting lost in hyperspace.

 Cheers,
 Eduard.
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>I'm afraid I don't know enough about the AS syntax to be sure what it's
>choking on. Is it a bug in the Corel assembler (I think I have the latest
>one they've released) or is there really something wrong with this code?

The latter.  I think this is roughly what I had to do to make that kernel 
compile for a netwinder target.

p.

diff -u --recursive --new-file clean/linux/arch/arm/kernel/Makefile linux/arch/arm/kernel/Makefile
--- clean/linux/arch/arm/kernel/Makefile	Mon Dec  7 13:09:18 1998
+++ linux/arch/arm/kernel/Makefile	Tue Dec  8 13:58:56 1998
@@ -26,7 +26,8 @@
 O_OBJS_ebsa110    = leds-ebsa110.o
 O_OBJS_ebsa285    = leds-ebsa285.o hw-ebsa285.o
 O_OBJS_nexuspci   =
-O_OBJS_vnc        = leds-ebsa285.o hw-vnc.o
+O_OBJS_vnc        = leds-ebsa285.o
+OX_OBJS_vnc	  = hw-vnc.o
 
 all: lib kernel.o $(HEAD_OBJ) init_task.o
 
@@ -57,6 +58,7 @@
 endif
 
 O_OBJS += $(O_OBJS_$(MACHINE))
+OX_OBJS += $(OX_OBJS_$(MACHINE))
 
 $(HEAD_OBJ): $(HEAD_OBJ:.o=.S)
 	$(CC) -D__ASSEMBLY__ -DTEXTADDR=$(TEXTADDR) -traditional -c $(HEAD_OBJ:.o=.S) -o $@
diff -u --recursive --new-file clean/linux/arch/arm/kernel/entry-armv.S linux/arch/arm/kernel/entry-armv.S
--- clean/linux/arch/arm/kernel/entry-armv.S	Mon Dec  7 13:09:18 1998
+++ linux/arch/arm/kernel/entry-armv.S	Tue Dec  8 13:51:05 1998
@@ -269,7 +298,8 @@
 		b	1001f
 
 1002:		@ PCI errors
-		tst	\irqstat, #IRQ_MASK_PCI_ERR
+		tst	\irqstat, #IRQ_MASK_PCI_ERR_LO
+		tsteq	\irqstat, #IRQ_MASK_PCI_ERR_HI
 		movne	\irqnr, #IRQ_PCI_ERR
 		bne	1001f
 
diff -u --recursive --new-file clean/linux/include/asm-arm/arch-vnc/irqs.h linux/include/asm-arm/arch-vnc/irqs.h
--- clean/linux/include/asm-arm/arch-vnc/irqs.h	Mon Dec  7 13:10:23 1998
+++ linux/include/asm-arm/arch-vnc/irqs.h	Tue Dec  8 13:50:26 1998
@@ -53,6 +53,8 @@
 #define IRQ_MASK_EXTERN_IRQ	0x00000800
 #define IRQ_MASK_DMA1		0x00030000
 #define IRQ_MASK_PCI_ERR	0xf8800000
+#define IRQ_MASK_PCI_ERR_LO	0x00800000
+#define IRQ_MASK_PCI_ERR_HI	0xf8000000
 
 /*
  * Now map them to the Linux interrupts



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Richard Atterer writes:
> this may be a bug in xfm rather than anything else, but nevertheless I
> thought I'd let you know that you can only access the top-level
> directories of your ADFS partition using xfm. Symbolic links to files
> further down the ADFS directory tree work fine, but opening directories
> is not possible.

Unlikely - the ADFS does not keep a correct '..' entry in all cases.  Try
'ls -ia' in some subdirectories, and I think you'll find that the inode
number for '..' is wrong.

> P.S. Russell, is this new CD an ELF distribution? Also, once the CD is
> ready, could a copy of the directories and files on it be made available
> via the FTP site?

The CD isn't a later ELF distribution (I don't have time at the moment with
a full time job to do anything that large).  However, it does contain a few
upgraded tools and so forth.
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There are definitely some bugs in the ADFS code; for example when you look
at an ls -al of /mnt/adfs/ARMLinux/!Linux, you can see that `..' is not a
directory and has fubar partitions.  Also, /mnt/adfs has two entries for
`.'.  I haven't had the opportunity to track down these bugs yet, but I
thought it was worth clarifying your bug report.

-- 
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I was configuring the 2.1.131 kernel for the ebsa285 as coprocessor
architecture and didn't get the option to include the serial 21285
console. I traced it back the following lines in arch/arm/config.in.

	if [ "$CONFIG_VGA_CONSOLE" = "n" -a "$CONFIG_FB" = "n" ]; then
	  source arch/arm/drivers/char/Config.in
	else
	  source drivers/char/Config.in
	fi

Why is this ? And what change would be appropriate to make the configure
script work again ? I need the serial 21285 console without any other
drivers.  (except my own networking over PCI drivers)

greetings,

Mark.

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I've been trying to get linux up and running on an ebsa-285 board.  I've
downloaded the kernel and compiled it but can't get it to run.  I've got
the ebsa-285 board sitting on a desk, no PCI bus present and am
downloading the kernel to it using armsd over the serial port.  It has
Angel v1.04 running.  The kernel image I'm copying to the board is
vmlinux converted into binary format (using objcopy) and dumper into
memory at 0x8000.  When I just start the kernel at that address (setting
the PSR to supervisor mode, interrupts off, setting R0=0 and R1=4), all
that happens is the yellow/amber light turns off so I'm left with the
Red and Green lights (the two furthest from the PCI fingers) turned on.

Is there a better/easier way to do this or am I missing one step?  From
looking through the kernel source, it looks like the amber light should
be blinking on and off as a result of timer interrupts and I should have
text being dumped out the serial port.

As a possible cause of the problems, I had two erros during the kernel
compilation but they appeared minor.

The first was in fs/partitions/check.c where the compiler was generating
assembly code where the constant pool was out of range.  This was fixed
by taking the two string constants causing problems and making them
global variables.

The other problem occurred in arch/arm/drivers/char/serial_21285.c
I'm given an error that for the variable 'current' (task structure),
'timeout' is not a member.  The timeout field is used to set a timeout
on busy waits it appears.  I fixed this problem by using the code found
in drivers/char/serial.c where instead of setting current->timeout =
jiffies+x, I instead call schedule_timeout(x).  

Any help would be appreciated - thanks in advance...

-Jon 
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> >However, this is not right in all cases (RiscPC for instance, should not
> >report v3 because it's not capable of the v4 instruction set).

> It's still a v4 processor (can do UMULL and so on), and I suspect RiscPCs are
> in the minority of StrongARM machines now.  I'll add a special case to
> identify those though.

Why not ID them as one of the v3 variants that can do extended multiply?
Something like v3L?  I don't have the ARM ARM but I remember reading about
this once somewhere...

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>Why not ID them as one of the v3 variants that can do extended multiply?
>Something like v3L?  I don't have the ARM ARM but I remember reading about
>this once somewhere...

Yes, that might be a good plan.

p.


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Hi there,

Is anyone running arm-linux using simtec's ide card in a sa110 riscpc?
Just curious if it would work before i start downloading,

cheers,

matt



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Hi.

I know that the linux-arm mailing list won't be reading this for at least
a day (poor old vger.rutgers.edu is struggling under the sheer load of
running the Linux community as a whole).

There is now a new patch for Linux kernel 2.1.131 on the usual FTP site
(ftp.arm.linux.org.uk:/pub/armlinux/kernel-sources/v2.1), or your nearest
mirror (eg, ftp.netwinder.org) which contains rather a lot of missing
patch compared with the previous.  Also, it now issues a warning if the
kernel is run on a StrongARM revision S.

Enjoy.
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Hello everyone,

	Does anyone know of an effort to port the pcmcia Card Services package
for linux to the ARM?  Specifically, using the built-in StrongArm PCMCIA
controller?  thanks!

-steve

masters student
electrical and computer engineering
carnegie mellon university
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	What do you have CONFIG_VGA_CONSOLE and CONFIG_FB set to?  The
	situation in the King kernels should be that with those *off*
	you get offered 21285 serial support.  Hopefully one of the
	patches I posted about a couple of days ago corrects things so
	that it works with them on as well.

	p.

I was using make menuconfig to configure the kernel. I first configured
character devices. The serial 21285 didn't show up on this. I turned
virtual terminal of however. This removed the console drivers option
from the menu. IOW i was not able to set CONFIG_VGA_CONSOLE and
CONFIG_FB to anything. Now i know how to configure, but changing the
configure script might be nice anyway.

Mark.
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My inability to type in a straight line rears its ugly head again.  Apologies 
to those who get this twice and were glad of the error.

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I've made a new patch against the 2.1.131 that Russell released yesterday.  As 
well as the things I mentioned previously, this features:

 - desperately experimental but apparently functional merge of Scott's 
   floating point emulator.
 - added "soft reboot" for 21285-based boards where the Footbridge can't 
   drive the reset line properly.  Default is to use this on CATS and the
   old scheme on EBSA-285 but you can change it with the command-line
   option "reboot=soft" or "reboot=hard".
 - added a driver for the 21285 onboard watchdog.
 - implemented sys_cacheflush for people trying to use trampolines and the 
   like.
 - fix typo causing StrongARM systems to loop forever at bootup
 - updated colour QuickCam driver

ftp://ftp.netwinder.org/users/p/philb/linux-2.1.131-philb-981211.gz

Share and enjoy.

p.



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Philip Blundell said:
> >Why not ID them as one of the v3 variants that can do extended multiply?
> >Something like v3L?  I don't have the ARM ARM but I remember reading about
> >this once somewhere...
> 
> Yes, that might be a good plan.

The code is mostly there already - just add the relevent HWCAP definitions.

--
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Hi!!  Everybody

   I have a question and need someone's help!!
   I want to study the kernel source of ARM Linux.
   But I don't have RISC OS platform, what I use is EBSA110.
   So how should I do to get the complete kernel source code??
   Is it necessary to install the arm linux on some platform to
   get the kernel source code??
   The individual souce code packages I found under this site:
   ftp://ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/armlinux/kernel-sources/
   are all patches !!
   I do not know is it ok to use these patches without any complete
   kernel source code.

   Could any body give me any suggestions??

   Thanks in advance!!


kirk


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In a message sent at Sun, 29 Nov 1998 11:58:09 +0100,
     Philip Blundell (philb@gnu.org) said:

> I suspect what happened is that libtool picked up the ELF version of ar rather 
> than the a.out one that you still need at this stage.  Look through the `make' 
> output and check if this is the case; if it is, you may need to hack 
> config.make or something to make it use the right one.
>
> If you're still stuck then I guess you need to look at the offending library 
> and see if you can work out what's wrong with it (things like "is it zero 
> length" would be a good starting point...)

I'd like to thank everyone for trying to help me to get this working.  I
did manage to get binutils to recompile by doing a
"cp -r /usr/arm-unknownlinuxaout/* /usr/", and even egcs compiled...  but
glibc wouldn't.  (The configure script wouldn't even work!)  I eventually
got fed up and decided to start again...  binutils compiled, egcs wouldn't
compile.  Then egcs started giving me different error messages every time
I tried to compile it.  Then even the configure script for binutils wouldn't
work;

This is just too hard for me; I think I'm going to delete my Arm Linux
partition and maybe try to get Linux running on the PC card if it's ever
supported.

But I would just like to say one final thank-you to everyone who tried
to help me, and to the people who develop ARM Linux for doing such a
cracking job.

Thanks.

JJF.
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>   The individual souce code packages I found under this site:
>   ftp://ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/armlinux/kernel-sources/
>   are all patches !!

The patches are against the kernel source tarballs that Linus puts out.  Get 
the appropriate one from ftp.kernel.org.

p.


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On Sat, 12 Dec 1998, Kir Lee wrote:

> Hi!!  Everybody
> 
>    I have a question and need someone's help!!

Sure.

>    The individual souce code packages I found under this site:
>    ftp://ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/armlinux/kernel-sources/
>    are all patches !!

They are all patches against the standard Linux kernel source; so get
the standard kernel source off ftp.kernel.org in /pub/linux/kernel
and then apply the patches to them.

Dave

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On Sat, 12 Dec 1998, Kir Lee wrote:
>    So how should I do to get the complete kernel source code??
>    Is it necessary to install the arm linux on some platform to
>    get the kernel source code??
>    The individual souce code packages I found under this site:
>    ftp://ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/armlinux/kernel-sources/
>    are all patches !!

Get the basic kernel you're interested in from ftp.kernel.org, then apply
the relevant patch from ftp.arm.linux.org.uk to make it an armlinux tree.

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Hi,

>    The individual souce code packages I found under this site:
>    ftp://ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/armlinux/kernel-sources/
>    are all patches !!
>    I do not know is it ok to use these patches without any complete
>    kernel source code.

You get the kernelsources from
ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v?.?/linux-?.?.*.tar.gz
Somewhere in the patches must be stated which source to take, perhaps 2.0.36

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Kir Lee writes:
>    The individual souce code packages I found under this site:
>    ftp://ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/armlinux/kernel-sources/
>    are all patches !!
>    I do not know is it ok to use these patches without any complete
>    kernel source code.

You need a copy of Linus' kernel source, and one of my patches.  You will
also need a unix/Linux platform to untar Linus' sources onto and apply
my patch.  Please read the kernel README about applying the patch if you're
uncertain how to do this.

Also, please note that Linus' source and my patch should refer to the same
version, eg Linus' 2.1.131 and my pre-patch-2.1.131-*.gz patch should be
used together.

Enjoy!
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In message <48B379DC88%teich-p@rcs.urz.tu-dresden.de> you wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> >    The individual souce code packages I found under this site:
> >    ftp://ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/armlinux/kernel-sources/
> >    are all patches !!
> >    I do not know is it ok to use these patches without any complete
> >    kernel source code.
> 
> You get the kernelsources from
> ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v?.?/linux-?.?.*.tar.gz
> Somewhere in the patches must be stated which source to take, perhaps 2.0.36

Or, if that's full, there's a mirror somewhere on sunsite.

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> This is just too hard for me; I think I'm going to delete my Arm Linux
> partition and maybe try to get Linux running on the PC card if it's ever
> supported.

The status of this is that the kernel will boot just fine on the PC card
(tested with kernel 2.1.89 or so).  However, there is no support for the
Aleph-1 specific interfaces that would allow you to access the hard disc
partitions that are set up.  This is my fault because I haven't finished
writing it yet.  Development of this has stalled for the moment, prod me
occasionally to get me to work on it.

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Hi,

I am trying to get a working ELF system going but am having
problems compiling egcs.  I have followed the recent threads
on this topic but couldn't find the answer to this problem.

I'm using binutils 2.9.1.0.15 (with the patch) and egcs 1.1b
(also with the patch) according to the instructions on Phil
Blundell's web page.

Binutils compiles OK. But if I install them then gcc breaks
and the configure script for egcs doesn't work.  This is
because ld 2.9.1 says it can't understand the format of a
file "crt0.o".  The original ld which works here is 2.4.1.

If I don't install the bunutils, I can configure egcs OK,
however "make LANGUAGES="c" doesn't work because part way
through ld (2.4.1) says: unrecognized emulation mode:
elf32arm.  ld 2.7 does the same.  ld 2.9.1 also doesn't work
but the message it gives is: cannot open crt1.o .  

What do I do now?

g
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> I'd like to thank everyone for trying to help me to get this working.

I'd like to second that - everyone on the list has been a great help to
me as well when I've asked about various things, especially Russell and
Phil.

> I did manage to get binutils to recompile by doing a
> "cp -r /usr/arm-unknownlinuxaout/* /usr/", and even egcs compiled...  but
> glibc wouldn't.

<snip>

I managed to get glibc working in the end and made a few elf binaries -
what I didn't realize was that to make X elf binaries (the main reason I
wanted to convert to elf) you need to recompile the X libraries. Care to
guess at the size of the XFree86 source?

I've now switched to using x86 Linux on a Pentium for the time being as
my main computer now so I'm not too worried about persuing the above.

> This is just too hard for me; I think I'm going to delete my Arm Linux
> partition and maybe try to get Linux running on the PC card if it's ever
> supported.

Linux doesn't exactly whizz along on my "real" PC (a P120) so I'd think
it would be appallingly slow on a PC card, even with one of the quick
Pentiums.

I think that when the Debian group finally get their ARM distribution
out with full elf support precompiled, then ArmLinux would begin to look
interesting from a user's point of view. Until then, most of the big
apps are just out of our reach.

> But I would just like to say one final thank-you to everyone who tried
> to help me, and to the people who develop ARM Linux for doing such a
> cracking job.

Absolutely

Chris

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>If I don't install the bunutils, I can configure egcs OK,
>however "make LANGUAGES="c" doesn't work because part way
>through ld (2.4.1) says: unrecognized emulation mode:
>elf32arm.  ld 2.7 does the same.  ld 2.9.1 also doesn't work
>but the message it gives is: cannot open crt1.o .  

Yeah, this is tricky.  The problem is that as soon as you install part of the 
toolchain you end up with an inconsistent state of affairs.  GCC, binutils and 
libc all need to be synchronised for things to work.

About the only way to solve it is to go through an intermediate state of 
having either ELF or a.out as a cross-compiler.  To be honest it would 
probably be easier to ask someone from the Debian or Red Hat camp if they 
could provide working binaries.  (If you're using a non-RiscPC StrongARM 
machine then it's easy; you can just install the NetWinder ones.)  Trying to 
build everything from source is possible but it's quite a long and painful 
process, especially if you haven't had much experience in this area before.

p.


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I was wondering if there was any leads for the Net+Arm chip
announced at http://www.netarm.com/ or any plans to do a linux
port to such a chip.

thanks,
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Hiya.

Some may remember that I organised a stand at the Acorn South-East show
around summer-time.  Well, John Stonier (the organiser of that, and other
shows) has detected some interest in linux-arm among Acorners, and has
asked if I want to put on a stand at the South-West show.

Due to lack of time, and lack of computers, I won't be able to provide
much hardware/software content for a show, so if anyone who has hardware,
and will travel, would like to come along and do a show, please get in
contact.

I have also heard people muttering about porting linux-arm to the (acorn-
style) NC.  Has anyone actually managed this?

Cheers,
Phil


John Stonier's email follows:



 Hi,

I'm currently organising the Acorn Southwest Show, which is taking place on
Saturday 20th February 1999 at The Webbington Hotel, Loxton, North Somerset. 
Just off the M5.

I believe I did send you an info pack recently, so am following this up to find
out whether you're interested in attending or not.  There would be no charge if
you wanted to take part.  As I have received a lot of interest from people
about using Linux, your presence would be greatly appreciated.

The stands are rapidly filling up, so if you intend to come, you need to
contact me asap.  My phone number is: (01707) 390410.

More information about the show can be found at:
http://www.argonet.co.uk/acornshow

Regards, John Stonier....


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>I have also heard people muttering about porting linux-arm to the (acorn-
>style) NC.  Has anyone actually managed this?

I suspect the NC is just an Archimedes with some extra bits bolted on so it 
shouldn't be all that hard.

p.


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Hi All,

Due to certain changes, I am moving my web and mail sites to another
machine on the Internet.  In theory, there should be no problems
caused by this change of abode (I hope I tested everything properly
last night, however there is always a chance that something will go
wrong).

Both the old and new sites are currently operational and uptodate.
The only outstanding change is the DNS.  I am hoping that this will
be updated imminently.

In theory, you shouldn't notice the change going through.  However,
in the event of a problem, send a mail to 'rmk@milldev.demon.co.uk'
and I'll look into it.  Do not use this address for anything else!

The old site will probably remain available until the weekend, when I
plan to discontinue updating the site.  I may well remove it at that
point to prevent inconsistent information appearing.

I will mail again once the change has been effected.
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Hi there,

Is there any more news about the 'nasty bug' in the rev S SA chips???
Another small question.... Is there a CDrom release of arm-linux?
If not, how should the directory listing look of the cdrom that the
installer looks for if i were to use the cdrom writer at work to cut a cd
from the ftp site??

thanks,

matt

email: matt@drunk.custard.org

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Hi All,

The DNS entries have now been updated, and mail appears to be arriving
via the new route ok, as of this morning.  It'll remove the old sites
on Saturday morning, so if you loose contact, it's probably because your
DNS hasn't cached the new entries yet.

Let me know if there are any problems accessing my web site or sending
me mail by using the 'rmk@milldev.demon.co.uk' address (only use this
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Hi all,

I'm a new starter to ARM Linux so I'm a bit new to some of the 
procedures. I've already tried linux newsgroups and c.s.a.misc
and was prompted to this mailing list.

My problem is that once I startup X using the startx command my Alt/
Meta keys stop working. I take it I should still be able to swap 
between consoles using <Ctrl>-<Alt>-Fkey even if one of the consoles
is running X. 

(Even if its not possible the Alt keys don't appear ot work under 
Emacs so I guess I must have setup something wrong)

Also, when I hit Shift-3 it prints the hash symbol when it should
be pound and Shift-` prints tilde instead (the actual hash/tilde
key doesn't appear to print anything). I guess I've chosen the
wrong keyboard during installation. This happens when in both
console mode and X. How can I change this?

FYI I'm running Linux on a SA RiscPC.

Any help would be much appreciated.

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On Wed, 16 Dec 1998, Philip Blundell wrote:

> >I have also heard people muttering about porting linux-arm to the (acorn-
> >style) NC.  Has anyone actually managed this?
> 
> I suspect the NC is just an Archimedes with some extra bits bolted on so it 
> shouldn't be all that hard.

I spent about 30mins trying to port NetBSD to the NC about the main
stumbling block was the the the podulebus works. It didn't recognise the
ethernet card. I spent some of the time altering the code that checks for
podules but couldn't get it to work and gave up. Haven't had time to go
back to it.

The kernel booted ok up to the filesystem mounting though.

I'm sure someone with more knowledge of podules and the EtherN (I think
that's what it is, unique to the NC) will be able to get it to work. 

They are almost identical to the A7000+

-- 
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Hi

its actually the EtherI, from Irlam

it differs from others as the NC does not support MEMC addressing (or 
I believe PS addressing). All access is made usinf EasiSpace addressing.. 
something the netbsd port probably does not currently do...

John

On Thu, 17 Dec, Andy Loukes  wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Dec 1998, Philip Blundell wrote:
> 
> > >I have also heard people muttering about porting linux-arm to the
(acorn-
> > >style) NC.  Has anyone actually managed this?
> 

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On Fri, Dec 18, 1998 at 03:01:33PM +0000, John Ballance wrote:
> Hi
> 
> its actually the EtherI, from Irlam
> 
> it differs from others as the NC does not support MEMC addressing (or 
> I believe PS addressing). All access is made usinf EasiSpace addressing.. 
> something the netbsd port probably does not currently do...

It depends on the NC.  Some have EtherN cards, some EtherI, and some have
other bizarre cards.  But yes, I've heard from another source too that
the main barrier to porting linux-arm is the ethernet card.

Phil
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Hey,
	Could/would someone familiar w/ building arm-linux for the 
	ebsa285 board please define the term "CATS board". I don't know
	the term CATS, hence I don't know how to answer the "make config"
	question:
		"  Include support for CATS boards (CONFIG_CATS) [N/y/?] "
	hence I'm stuck, somewhat.

	thanks,	
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On Fri, 18 Dec 1998, Dave Baukus wrote:
> 	Could/would someone familiar w/ building arm-linux for the 
> 	ebsa285 board please define the term "CATS board". I don't know
> 	the term CATS, hence I don't know how to answer the "make config"
> 	question:
> 		"  Include support for CATS boards (CONFIG_CATS) [N/y/?] "
> 	hence I'm stuck, somewhat.

You would know if you had one (Just Say No).

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>	Could/would someone familiar w/ building arm-linux for the 
>	ebsa285 board please define the term "CATS board". I don't know
>	the term CATS, hence I don't know how to answer the "make config"
>	question:
>		"  Include support for CATS boards (CONFIG_CATS) [N/y/?] "
>	hence I'm stuck, somewhat.

Just say no.  The CATS is a board produced by Chalice Technologies which is 
basically an EBSA-285 with a few extra bits stuck on the side.

Either option is safe but if you say Y you will end up with a few kilobytes of 
useless code in your kernel.

p.


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Hi All,

Ok, the old site has now been blown away.  If you can't access the site
any more, then please check that you're using one of:

	www.arm.uk.linux.org
	www.arm.linux.org.uk

Also, your nameserver may not have cached the new DNS info - contact your
sysadmin about that problem.  The DNS should have filtered through to
everyone by now (it was updated 3 days ago).

Any problems, let me know.
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Hi all,

I've just finished uploading (todays/yesterdays) 2.1.131 Linux kernel patch.
As a 2.1 patch is a development patch, these patches are always in the form
'pre-patch-<kernel-version>-<date>-<nr>.gz'.  As such, they are not ready for
'mainsteam' use.

This patch contains quite a patches from various people, information can be
found on my web site as normal.

It should also be able to be used on the Netwinder now.  I haven't 100%
verified that this exact source will run, but it did compile.  I'd put
an 80% probability of it being ok.

Netwinder bits'n'pieces that are in and have worked for me:

  - Cyber2000 fbmem video (/not/ compatible with Corel's X server)
  - Printer port
  - Serial port
  - Ether10
  - Ether100 (but I may have cocked this up again tho)
  - WaveArtist with volume slider.
  - IDE in PIO only mode.

Any problems, you know where to reach me.


FPEm
----

I'll do a release of the Acorn FPEm v4.07 for this kernel version shortly.
This module should be loadable by the new ELF insmod into 2.1 kernels.
The FPEm has been improved over it's previous version - it now uses the
new multiply commands and has other optimisations added.

The way I recommend loading this emulator is as follows:

  Add the following line to your inittab, 
  (after the original fpem is loaded, and before rc.sysinit)

    f2::sysinit:/sbin/insmod /lib/modules/2.1/misc/fpem-4.07.o

NOTE: due to difficulties, although the emulator itself is not dependent
on the kernel version, it is not as independent as the old emulator.  You
may be able to get round the problem with '-f', but in this case, this
fpemulator must be:

 1. Called the same leafname as the older FPEm.
 2. The attempt to load it must come after the older FPEm.

Any other ordering could prevent 2.0 kernels from working.


SA110S
------

Although this kernel will display a warning message, since running the same
kernel code on more SA110 rev. S chips, it has become apparant that some
hardwares appear to exhibit very strange behaviour, whereas others do not.

Investigations will be proceeding - Pat will be doing some tests of his own
on a variety of Netwinders - thanks Pat.
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Phil Norman said:
> On Fri, Dec 18, 1998 at 03:01:33PM +0000, John Ballance wrote:
> > it differs from others as the NC does not support MEMC addressing (or 
> > I believe PS addressing). All access is made usinf EasiSpace addressing.. 
> > something the netbsd port probably does not currently do...
> 
> It depends on the NC.  Some have EtherN cards, some EtherI, and some have
> other bizarre cards.  But yes, I've heard from another source too that
> the main barrier to porting linux-arm is the ethernet card.

However, ARM Linux supports EASI cards.  I think you should use:

	addr = ecard_address(ec, ECARD_EASI, 0)

to get the address of the card described by 'ec'.

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Can somebody point me to ctr0.s for ARM/sa110 ? 

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>Can somebody point me to ctr0.s for ARM/sa110 ? 

There is no crt0.s per se.  The crt files are built as part of the C library.

Why do you want one?

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Dave Baukus writes:
> Can somebody point me to ctr0.s for ARM/sa110 ? 

ELF (glibc) or a.out (libc4)?
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On Mon, 21 Dec, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin  wrote:
> Dave Baukus writes:
> > Can somebody point me to ctr0.s for ARM/sa110 ? 
> 
> ELF (glibc) or a.out (libc4)?

seconded.. sometimes it'll ask for crt1.s instead... but...???

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>seconded.. sometimes it'll ask for crt1.s instead... but...???

crt1.o is what ELF systems tend to use.

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Against the latest (20/12/98) pre-patch from RK.

ftp://ftp.netwinder.org/users/p/philb/linux-2.1.131-philb-981222.gz

Noteworthy things included:

 - Stuff that's been around for a while:
   . ARM3 uaccess
   . fbcon hacks

 - special goodies for 21285-based machines:
   . watchdog driver
   . /dev/flash (10,152) driver
   . mmap /dev/mem disables caching appropriately

 - NWFPE floating point (+some fixes of my own)

 - CATS bits and pieces (again, CONFIG_CATS may be harmful to EBSA boards)

 - other small miscellany

Share and enjoy

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On Tue, 22 Dec, Philip Blundell  wrote:
> >seconded.. sometimes it'll ask for crt1.s instead... but...???
> 
> crt1.o is what ELF systems tend to use.

mea culpa.. I should have said crt1.o, not s


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Hi,
   I'm curious about some details I can't seem to track down.

   RedHat commited to doing a 5.1 (etc) distribution for the SA (for
Corel's NetWinder primarily). However I havn't found any information
to say that it's based on the ARMLinux developments here. Am I right
in saying that they're forking/duplicating development or are they
related and co-operating projects?

   'Twould seem a shame not to use that which already exists - and a
great waste of resource for RedHat. Anybody able to clear the murk?

Cheers,

Ross.

PS - Merry Xmas and a most happy New Year to you all for 1999.

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Ross Tierney wrote:

> RedHat commited to doing a 5.1 (etc) distribution for the SA (for
> Corel's NetWinder primarily). 

RedHat will not be doing a 5.1 ARM Linux distribution.  Look for NetWinder
support in 6.0.  There is no release date for this ATM.  Early glimpses should
be available on Redhat's RawHide site.

> However I havn't found any information to say that it's based on
> the ARMLinux developments here. Am I right in saying that they're 
> forking/duplicating development or are they related and 
> co-operating projects?

They are separate projects.  I think Russell's distibution is a little old for
them to work with.  It is based on an a.out system, while the newest RedHat
distributions are all ELF based.  They do know about the site, and
netwinder.org, however they tend to be working from the 5.2 base.

> 'Twould seem a shame not to use that which already exists - and a
> great waste of resource for RedHat. Anybody able to clear the murk?

Merry Christmas,

Scott Bambrough
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Hi there

I have tried to compile Kaffe 1.0 beta 3 on my Risc PC/SA. However,
although it seems to compile successfully if it is configured not to use
X[1], it coredumps immediately when run. Has anyone got Kaffe working on a
Risc PC?

Merry Christmas

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[1] it needs a later version of libjpeg and libpng than I have installed

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Hi,

Some new goodies; a patch for EGCS and a patch for binutils.

The former is an all-in-one patch against the 1.1.1 release and replaces the 
various bitty patches that have been floating around thus far.  It includes 
everything from the old patches plus a fix for an obscure bug that surfaces 
while compiling complex functions with -fPIC and improved support for 
-mapcs-float.  I also turned on support for the new sys_cacheflush syscall by 
default.  This may mean you get alarming-looking kernel messages if you use 
nested functions on a machine running an old kernel -- since the old behaviour 
was to fail silently this doesn't seem too much of a problem.

The latter is a small patch against HJ's 2.9.1.0.19a release (though in fact 
it should apply against any reasonably recent version) to fix a couple of 
strange but serious bugs to do with section handling.  I say "strange" 
because I'd never noticed them until a few days ago and yet the effect is to 
completely break things like the .text.init support in the kernel.  I guess 
they must have been triggered by another change at some point.

If you still have outstanding problems with either egcs or binutils that you 
think I might not know about (or have forgotten) then please send me mail.

ftp://ftp.netwinder.org/users/p/philb/egcs-1.1.1-arm-diff-981227.gz
ftp://ftp.netwinder.org/users/p/philb/binutils-2.9.1.0.19a-arm-diff-981227.gz

Share and enjoy

p.


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Hi all,

The ARM patches for 2.1.132 are now on the FTP site in their usual location.

With Linus' release of 2.1.132, a lot of ARM patches went in.  Unfortunately,
it hasn't reduced my patch size significantly - seems like a lot has changed
since I submitted that patch.

Patch includes:

- hardware accelerated fbcon console for Netwinder (now usable)
- San's alignment trap handler (with some mods)
   NOTE!  Could people send me the results of
   'cat /proc/uptime /proc/sys/debug/alignment'
   please?  On my Netwinder, with the kernel compiled with my ELF GCC
   2.7.2.2, I'm getting a fault rate of 1 per ms, which is not good.
   I'd like to hear about newer GCCs/EGCS with various optimisation
   levels.
- EBSA285 reboot options.
- Some of Phils patches merged.
- Various minor header file problems cleared.
- SA110 'wait for interrupt' instruction (aka x86's hlt) now used.
- Netwinder DMA operational (waveartist)
- IDE fix for DMA drives which have not had their interfaces configured
  for DMA.
- Separate CONFIG options for binutils and separate text init sections
  (Corel's binutils on my 2.0r10 image must have text init sections
   turned *off*).
- sys_cacheflush added.
- PCI ioremap stuff.

The usual:

- newer tulip.c driver (for 21143)
- ipv4 checksum problem fixes.
- NFS fixes.
- minor sound driver cleanup.
- as yet unmerged IDE stuff from the m68k guys
- mouse patches (SMP fixes + cleanup)
- partition stuff (cleanup)

I'm sure there's other stuff...

PS, there are a few work-arounds for GCC 2.8.1 (?) which is shipped with the
Netwinder 2.0r10 image which are not obvious to enable.  See:

 - linux/include/asm-arm/byteorder.h
 - linux/include/asm-arm/spinlock.h

If you're using GCC 2.8.1, please disable the #if in byteorder.h if you
experiance problems.
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Hi all,

Yes, I know that the patch on the FTP site is cocked up.  It'll be fixed
tomorrow. (hopefully morning, UK time).  It seems to be suffering from the
"do too much before release and it won't work" syndrome.
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Hi All,

Ok, the new patches on the FTP site should be a functional 2.1.132.
These ones contain a few other bits'n'pieces from PhilB.
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I've made an updated version of my patchkit relative to Russell's latest 
2.1.132 patch.

New stuff:

 - fix the `empty structure' zero-cost spinlocks and use them on EGCS systems
 - correct #if conditional in byteorder.h to avoid problems with GCC 2.8
 - various small compilation fixes (NBD etc)
 - include Alex Holden's NetWinder LED driver, though it may not be to all 
   tastes
 - allow pgt cache to be disabled on 26-bit machines
 - `make xconfig' doesn't barf on multi-word CONFIG_CMDLINE values
 - inline asm functions (inb, sti etc) now annotate the assembler output with
   strategic comments (makes life easier for people reading gcc -S output)
 - CONFIG_SOUND_WAVEARTIST=y works properly now

Plus all the usual things.

ftp://ftp.netwinder.org/users/p/philb/linux-2.1.132-philb-981228.gz

p.


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I am running Linux kernel 2.0.35 on a StrongArm RiscPC.  I recently
recompiled it to be able to use the internet (which is working fine!)
Two problems - first the recompile kernel gives 'Filesystem ADFS not
supported by kernel' errors when I try to mount the ADFS partition of the
harddisc.  I definitely answered YES when asked if I wanted ADFS during
kernel configuration (I have even recompiled to be sure).
The other thing is much less important to me.  I have been experimenting with
printing (to a parallel port Epson Stylus) and have successfuly(?) configured
the queues and lpd, but queued items never print.  lpc status reports all
well except that the printer is not resopnding (?offline).  I'm not expecting
photo-quality output, but it would be useful to be able to print out man
pages now and again.  Any suggestions?

Many thanks,
	Charles.

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Dr Charles McEvoy writes:
> I am running Linux kernel 2.0.35 on a StrongArm RiscPC.  I recently
> recompiled it to be able to use the internet (which is working fine!)
> Two problems - first the recompile kernel gives 'Filesystem ADFS not
> supported by kernel' errors when I try to mount the ADFS partition of the
> harddisc.  I definitely answered YES when asked if I wanted ADFS during
> kernel configuration (I have even recompiled to be sure).

Which kernel version (patch release date) are you using?

There is a file, /proc/filesystems, which will tell you what filesystem types are
currently available to the kernel.  Does this mention ADFS?  For example:

        ext2
        msdos
        vfat
nodev   proc
nodev   nfs
        iso9660
        adfs


> The other thing is much less important to me.  I have been experimenting with
> printing (to a parallel port Epson Stylus) and have successfuly(?) configured
> the queues and lpd, but queued items never print.

You're probably getting some information logged into /var/log/messages concerning
this.  Could you check this, and post any relevent messages please?  Also, I
seem to remember that you need to use /dev/lp1 rather than lp0.
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On 29 Dec, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin (linux@arm.linux.org.uk) wrote:

> Dr Charles McEvoy writes:
>> I am running Linux kernel 2.0.35 on a StrongArm RiscPC.  I recently
>> recompiled it to be able to use the internet (which is working fine!) Two
>> problems - first the recompile kernel gives 'Filesystem ADFS not supported
>> by kernel' errors when I try to mount the ADFS partition of the harddisc. 
>> I definitely answered YES when asked if I wanted ADFS during kernel
>> configuration (I have even recompiled to be sure).
> 
> Which kernel version (patch release date) are you using?
1998.09.14
Ah - I just realized there is a more up to date patch - sorry, I should have
looked.  I'm fetching it now - is it likely to solve this problem?
> 
> There is a file, /proc/filesystems, which will tell you what filesystem
> types are currently available to the kernel.  Does this mention ADFS?  For
> example:
> 
>         ext2
>         msdos
>         vfat nodev   proc nodev   nfs
>         iso9660
>         adfs
All of the above _except_ adfs.  Ah.
>> The other thing is much less important to me.  I have been experimenting
>> with printing (to a parallel port Epson Stylus) and have successfuly(?)
>> configured the queues and lpd, but queued items never print.
> 
> You're probably getting some information logged into /var/log/messages
> concerning this.  Could you check this, and post any relevent messages
> please?  Also, I seem to remember that you need to use /dev/lp1 rather than
> lp0.
Close - it is lp2 (at least it is on this machine). 
Thanks - now it prints. 
It prints complete rubbish, but I can try to sort that out when I have time.
Much obliged for the help.
Charles.


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Some people have requested the EBSA-285 as co-processor port patch i've
made.  There is a new version (against Russell's 19981227 pre-patch) of
this patch, if you want to receive it just send me an e-mail and i'll
send it to you ASAP. If you want to receive the networking patches,
utilities, drivers and the (very short)howto as well let me know.

Everything is still experimental and shared object files still don't
work.

greetings,

Mark.
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The last patch I posted for binutils turned out to be rather toxic to glibc 
compilation.  This is a replacement which hopefully fixes the kernel problem 
without breaking anything else.

<ftp://ftp.netwinder.org/users/p/philb/binutils-2.9.1.0.19a-arm-diff-981230.gz>

I've also made a new kernel patch against Russell's 2.1.132 release of the 
28th.  Rather than post a tedious description of what's changed here I've 
included it as a file within the patch - look for linux/CHANGES.philb.

<ftp://ftp.netwinder.org/users/p/philb/linux-2.1.132-philb-981230.gz>

One of the interesting (well, depends on your definition I suppose) parts of 
the above patch is the addition of some support for running foreign binaries 
under emulation.  I've updated my web page with a bit of information about this 
(plus some other stuff).

<http://www.tazenda.demon.co.uk/phil/armlinux/>

p.


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Hello,

Is there any way to get Arm Linux to run without any VRAM?  I lost mine
in a thunderstorm recently.  I've tryed what I believe to be the lastest
kernel (rpc from the downloading guide page on the arm.linux site.)

Thank you for your help.

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Hi Phil,

On Wed, 16 Dec 1998, Phil Norman wrote:

> Due to lack of time, and lack of computers, I won't be able to provide
> much hardware/software content for a show, so if anyone who has hardware,
> and will travel, would like to come along and do a show, please get in
> contact.

I'm sorry I've been both busy (deadlines) and ill and so I haven't replied
sooner.  I live in Bristol and have a RPC running Arm Linux and I'm
willing to attend.  I could bring the RPC together with my Intel Linux PC 
showing the same desktop.  I should have my car back on the road by then.

> John Stonier's email follows:
>
> Hi,
> 
> I'm currently organising the Acorn Southwest Show, which is taking place on
> Saturday 20th February 1999 at The Webbington Hotel, Loxton, North Somerset. 
> Just off the M5.
> 
> I believe I did send you an info pack recently, so am following this up to find
> out whether you're interested in attending or not.  There would be no charge if
> you wanted to take part.  As I have received a lot of interest from people
> about using Linux, your presence would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> The stands are rapidly filling up, so if you intend to come, you need to
> contact me asap.  My phone number is: (01707) 390410.
> 
> More information about the show can be found at:
> http://www.argonet.co.uk/acornshow

Regards

Melanie

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