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When i tried to use a program which used some floating point operations
this program failed to run. It turns out i need the floating point
emulator. This emulator seems to be only available as a pre-compiled
module, it would be a lot of work for me to get this working.  (I don't
have a complete working system yet)

So i tried using -msoft-float with egcs. This complained about undefined
references. I obviously need some library with floating point support to
use -msoft-float. Is such a library available ?

greetings,

Mark.
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>When i tried to use a program which used some floating point operations
>this program failed to run. It turns out i need the floating point
>emulator. This emulator seems to be only available as a pre-compiled
>module, it would be a lot of work for me to get this working.  (I don't
>have a complete working system yet)
>
>So i tried using -msoft-float with egcs. This complained about undefined
>references. I obviously need some library with floating point support to
>use -msoft-float. Is such a library available ?

If you apply the kernel patch I mentioned here a few days ago you can build 
floating point emulation into the kernel.  Otherwise there is a link to an old 
version of libfloat on my web page; I keep meaning to make a newer one 
including Scott's changes but I haven't had time yet.

p.


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>   Compiled with: arm-linux-gcc -o fp fp.cpp -static

Why are you using static binaries?  This is never a good idea except in very 
special cases.

Anyway, it seems that there is some bug that stops your program working with 
-static.  I tried it on both the Acorn emulator under 2.0 and NWFPE under 2.1 
and the results were the same.  Without -static it worked as expected with 
both versions.  I'd be surprised if the emulator was at fault; the bug is 
probably in the C runtime somewhere.

p.


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	If you apply the kernel patch I mentioned here a few days ago
	you can build floating point emulation into the kernel.
	Otherwise there is a link to an old version of libfloat on my
	web page; I keep meaning to make a newer one including Scott's
	changes but I haven't had time yet.

I've applied the patch and compiled a new kernel. The new kernel is able
to run floating point SW but the result of the FP operations are
incorrect. In the case of a division the binary exits (i guess with a
division by zero) prematurely. (Test case appended)

I was unable to download libfloat, the link was not working.

Thanks,

Mark.


-------------------------------

/* The followin test case produces a zero for the first number printed
   with a + and -. When a / is used the result is not printed.
   When a * is used the result is incorrect 1->-0.25, 2->-2, 3->-6 ...

   Compiled with: arm-linux-gcc -o fp fp.cpp -static
 */
#include <stdio.h>
#include <stdlib.h>

main(int argc,char **argv)
{
	double d=atof(argv[1]);
	printf("result %lf %lf\n",d+3,d);
}
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>	Why are you using static binaries?  This is never a good idea
>	except in very special cases.
>
>Shared libraries do not work on my arch.

I guess that's a sufficiently special case. :-)

>When i try to run a dynamicly linked program i get an error for an
>invalid address. This address is somewhere around 0x28021f58 and occurs
>at 0x2000d948. This is in the function _dl_init_next (elf/dl-init.c) in
>the line with: struct link_map *l = searchlist->r_list[i];

There was a bug at one point which caused a duff pointer to be passed to 
_dl_init_next.  It sounds like you're running into this and using a later libc 
may help.  If you use a precompiled version, say from a NetWinder, do you get 
the same problem?

>Suggestions would be really welcome on this. The arch is a derative of
>the EBSA-285 arch with the kernel remapped to 0x60000000. I'm using
>glibc 2.0.105 (I couldn't get 109 to compile)

I've appended here a patch against 2.0.109 that should get it going.  What 
versions of gcc and binutils do you have?  The dynamic linking part of glibc 
is quite sensitive to this.

If the only difference between your architecture and EBSA-285 is that the 
kernel is in a different place then nothing in user space should really care 
(though you may be in danger of running out of headroom for shared libraries 
and other mmap'd things).  The same binaries run on NetWinder, CATS and 
EBSA already and your machine should be the same.

p.

diff -u --recursive --new-file clean/glibc-2.0.109/wcsmbs/wcstold.c glibc-2.0.109/wcsmbs/wcstold.c
--- clean/glibc-2.0.109/wcsmbs/wcstold.c	Thu Dec 31 12:45:23 1998
+++ glibc-2.0.109/wcsmbs/wcstold.c	Thu Dec 31 14:28:53 1998
@@ -45,6 +45,7 @@
 
 # include <stdlib/strtod.c>
 #else
+# include <wchar.h>
 /* There is no `long double' type, use the `double' implementations.  */
 long double
 __wcstold_internal (const wchar_t *nptr, wchar_t **endptr, int group)


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	Why are you using static binaries?  This is never a good idea
	except in very special cases.

Shared libraries do not work on my arch. I've been wanting to look into
this but it will take a lot of time to do since i'm not familiar with
the glibc internals. (And i should be far to busy with other things to
work on Linux at all)

When i try to run a dynamicly linked program i get an error for an
invalid address. This address is somewhere around 0x28021f58 and occurs
at 0x2000d948. This is in the function _dl_init_next (elf/dl-init.c) in
the line with: struct link_map *l = searchlist->r_list[i];

Suggestions would be really welcome on this. The arch is a derative of
the EBSA-285 arch with the kernel remapped to 0x60000000. I'm using
glibc 2.0.105 (I couldn't get 109 to compile)

Thanks a lot,

Mark.
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On Fri, 1 Jan 1999, Philip Blundell wrote:

> >   Compiled with: arm-linux-gcc -o fp fp.cpp -static
> 
> Why are you using static binaries?  This is never a good idea except in very 
> special cases.

No kidding!  
My special case is that I have only about 500 kb for all application
binaries in my system.  So it turns to be a single statically linked 
binary since dynamic libraries, even stripped, are much too big.

> Anyway, it seems that there is some bug that stops your program working with 
> -static.  I tried it on both the Acorn emulator under 2.0 and NWFPE under 2.1 
> and the results were the same.  Without -static it worked as expected with 
> both versions.  I'd be surprised if the emulator was at fault; the bug is 
> probably in the C runtime somewhere.

Already got wrong fp results too, but didn't care since I had more
important bugs to cure...  May -static screw up threads too?  



Nicolas Pitre, B. ing.
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	There was a bug at one point which caused a duff pointer to be
	passed to _dl_init_next.  It sounds like you're running into
	this and using a later libc may help.  If you use a precompiled
	version, say from a NetWinder, do you get the same problem?

I've recompiled glibc-2.0.109 with your patch applied and it simply worked.
This makes me very happy :-) Thanks a lot.

Floating point support seems to work as well with shared object files.

Mark.
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Hi,

Erm, I am _new_ to Linux and have just installed it. I got a copy of
StarOffice 5.0 and some other Linux software on CD-ROM and wanted to know how
to mount the CD so that I can access the data on it.

I have tried mount -t adfs /dev/hdb cdfs to mount it but it says that it
can't mount it for some reason (read only FS if I recall).

Can anyone help me?

Thanks and regards,
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Nicolas Pitre wrote:

>Already got wrong fp results too, but didn't care since I had more
>important bugs to cure...  May -static screw up threads too?  

It's certainly possible.  I don't know for a fact that there are problems but 
threads are one of the areas I'd be most wary about where static binaries are 
involved.

If you have trouble then let me know and I'll see what I can do.

p.


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>Floating point support seems to work as well with shared object files.

Great.  I've made a note of the fact that it's broken with static objects and 
I'll try to fix it when I have time.

p.



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>I have tried mount -t adfs /dev/hdb cdfs to mount it but it says that it
>can't mount it for some reason (read only FS if I recall).

It's unlikely that you want to mount the CDROM as ADFS.  Try `-t iso9660'.
If you get a message about `mounting read-only', that's not an error.

p.


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On Sat, 2 Jan 1999, David Ramsden wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Erm, I am _new_ to Linux and have just installed it. I got a copy of
> StarOffice 5.0 and some other Linux software on CD-ROM and wanted to know how
> to mount the CD so that I can access the data on it.
> 
> I have tried mount -t adfs /dev/hdb cdfs to mount it but it says that it
> can't mount it for some reason (read only FS if I recall).

As has been said the problem there is that the type of CDs is normally
ISO9660.
As an extra tip to make life easier add something like this to your
/etc/fstab:

/dev/hdb           /cdrom    iso9660 noauto,user     0 0

Then all you need to do in future is type

mount /cdrom


Dave

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On Sat, 2 Jan 1999, Philip Blundell wrote:

> Nicolas Pitre wrote:
> 
> >Already got wrong fp results too, but didn't care since I had more
> >important bugs to cure...  May -static screw up threads too?  
> 
> It's certainly possible.  I don't know for a fact that there are problems but 
> threads are one of the areas I'd be most wary about where static binaries are 
> involved.
> 
> If you have trouble then let me know and I'll see what I can do.

For sure I do!  :-(



Nicolas Pitre, B. ing.
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Mark van Doesburg writes:
> When i tried to use a program which used some floating point operations
> this program failed to run. It turns out i need the floating point
> emulator. This emulator seems to be only available as a pre-compiled
> module, it would be a lot of work for me to get this working.

I believe that finally the binutils, modutils, gcc and kernel are all
sufficiently advanced in their development to allow me to release a new
version of the Acorn FPE.

The main problem preventing me from releasing it is that my tools generate
an incompatable (but never the less correct) ELF object files that the
present module utilities would not be able to load.  Until the advent of
.132, there was a chicken and egg situation where the modutils required
the FPE to be loaded to load the FPE.

This situation has now been remidied, so expect a new module soon.
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>For sure I do!  :-(

You'll need to give more details of what you're trying to do and what exactly 
goes wrong.  I just built `ex1' from LinuxThreads static and it runs without 
any problems.  Does this work for you?

BTW, have you checked that threads actually work with your kernel?  I 
discovered the other day that they've apparently been broken in 2.1/ARM for 
some time and maybe 2.0 has the same problem (the NetWinder version seems 
OK but Corel may have fixed it off their own bat).  I've appended here the 
patch (for copy_thread() in arch/arm/process.c) that I sent to Russell to 
fix it.

p.

--- clean/linux/arch/arm/kernel/process.c	Mon Dec 28 13:53:28 1998
+++ linux/arch/arm/kernel/process.c	Fri Jan  1 18:24:08 1999
@@ -169,6 +171,7 @@
 	childregs = ((struct pt_regs *)((unsigned long)p + 8192)) - 1;
 	*childregs = *regs;
 	childregs->ARM_r0 = 0;
+	childregs->ARM_sp = esp;
 
 	save = ((struct context_save_struct *)(childregs)) - 1;
 	copy_thread_css(save);


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Russell King wrote:

>I believe that finally the binutils, modutils, gcc and kernel are all
>sufficiently advanced in their development to allow me to release a new
>version of the Acorn FPE.

What are your intentions with regard to the Acorn FPE and 26-bit machines, by 
the way?  (I ask because I'm wondering what to do about NWFPE on these 
systems; at the moment it doesn't look like it'll work because entry-armo.S 
still uses an old-style calling sequence for the emulator.)

p.


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On Sat, 2 Jan 1999, Philip Blundell wrote:

> >For sure I do!  :-(
> 
> You'll need to give more details of what you're trying to do and what exactly 
> goes wrong.  I just built `ex1' from LinuxThreads static and it runs without 
> any problems.  Does this work for you?

I'll be able to test it on Monday.  My problem is that execution never
gets out of pthread_create() nor a thread is started.  I started to trace
glibc v.106 and something hangs in thread_manager() or similar.  I'll get
more details on Monday too.

> 
> BTW, have you checked that threads actually work with your kernel?  I 
> discovered the other day that they've apparently been broken in 2.1/ARM for 
> some time and maybe 2.0 has the same problem (the NetWinder version seems 
> OK but Corel may have fixed it off their own bat).
[..]

Yes, I found this one and fixed it in my kernel already.


Nicolas Pitre, B. ing.
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>I'll be able to test it on Monday.  My problem is that execution never
>gets out of pthread_create() nor a thread is started.  I started to trace
>glibc v.106 and something hangs in thread_manager() or similar.  I'll get
>more details on Monday too.

OK.  If you can strace the failing process that would be very helpful.  Also 
if you mail me your binary I can see if it works on another machine.  (The 
gnu.org mail server seems to be experiencing some downtime, so use this 
address rather than my usual one.)

p.


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The latest ARM kernel patch for 2.1.132 is now on the FTP site.

I've dropped out the video capture stuff from that patch - although I have
some working overlay code, I don't believe that the Video4Linux API is
suitable for our video capture hardware which we have on the Netwinder.
If anyone wants to take a closer look at this, let me know, but I'm happy
to watch TV on the background of my fbcon console. ;)

Unfortunately, I've got a real-life job again from tomorrow, so things will
slow down again, and I'm sure it's going to wind me up again. ;(
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Hi,

 Is there any news on getting an EtherB with 80C04.AE card to work? I know
there was work on updating the Ether3 driver but I've heard nothing since.

 If there isn't any chance of using my card - is there anyone in the
Cambridge area who might be willing to swap it for a card they aren't using
with Arm Linux?

 Thanks,
 
 Tom

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On Sun, 3 Jan 1999, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote:
> The latest ARM kernel patch for 2.1.132 is now on the FTP site.

Seems to have applied OK, except for attempts to delete a few files in 
linux/drivers/sound which were non-existant in my copy of 2.1.132

Will complain if I can not comple it, and still have network connectivity
;-)

//Stany, stany@notbsd.org
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> On Sun, 3 Jan 1999, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote:
> > The latest ARM kernel patch for 2.1.132 is now on the FTP site.

In my case there seems to be a problem with the Makefile referencing
variable ZLINKFLAGS in /usr/src/linux/arch/arc/boot/compressed/Makefile

As a result at the final stage of the compile the compile dies with the
following:

make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux/arch/arm/boot'
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux/arch/arm/boot/compressed'
tmppiggy=_tmp_$$piggy; \
        rm -f $tmppiggy $tmppiggy.gz $tmppiggy.lnk; \
        objcopy -O binary -R .note -R .comment -S /usr/src/linux/vmlinux
$tmppiggy; \
        gzip -f -9 < $tmppiggy > $tmppiggy.gz; \
        echo "SECTIONS { .data : { input_len = .; LONG(input_data_end -
input_data) input_data = .; *(.data) input_data_end = .; }}" >
$tmppiggy.lnk; \
        ld -m elf32arm -r -o piggy.o -b binary $tmppiggy.gz -b elf32-arm
 -T $tmppiggy.lnk; \
        rm -f $tmppiggy $tmppiggy.gz $tmppiggy.lnk;
ld -m elf32arm -Ttext  -o vmlinux head.o misc.o  piggy.o
ld: invalid hex number `-o'
make[2]: *** [vmlinux] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/arch/arm/boot/compressed'
make[1]: *** [compressed/vmlinux] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/arch/arm/boot'
make: *** [zImage] Error 2
root@gargoyle:/usr/src/linux[107]#

I did some greps and it seems to me that the last line might work if
0xC000C000 is added, but I do not have enough guts to find out if the
generated kernel will actually boot the system.   Soon, though ;-)

ld -m elf32arm -Ttext 0xC000C000 -o vmlinux head.o misc.o  piggy.o

Comments?

Oh, and hardware ;-)
NetWinder, board revision 42ff, 32 megs, 3 gigs, NetWinder DM version 2.1
[Build 12],  Kernel 2.0.35 on an armv4l

BTW, if anyone out there has a working .config file for any recent kernel
that boots under NetWinder and detects most of the hardware, I would
gladly appreciate a copy.

//Stany, rather amused by being flamed on bugtraq by a clueless vendor

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On Mon, 4 Jan 1999, //Stany wrote:
> In my case there seems to be a problem with the Makefile referencing
> variable ZLINKFLAGS in /usr/src/linux/arch/arc/boot/compressed/Makefile

Use a target of vmlinux instead of zImage.

> BTW, if anyone out there has a working .config file for any recent kernel
> that boots under NetWinder and detects most of the hardware, I would
> gladly appreciate a copy.

I'll send you mine when I get my 'Winder networked again (hmm, maybe
floppy drives aren't all bad after all ;)

You probably will want to wait until either Russell releases a new fpem
which works with 2.1, or Phil releases a new patch with the nwfpem in it
(unless Russell has integrated the nwfpem into the main kernel this time).
Or, you could just manually hack the nwfpem bits of one of Phil's previous
patches in yourself...

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I have three questions (all somewhat offtopic, but I hope that there is 
somebody on the list using ARM CPUs in embedded system design):

Does anybody know, if the syntax of the GNUassembler for the ARM CPU is the 
same as of ARMs software development toolkit?

Does anybody know if gdb for the ARM code is extendable as armsd (symbolic 
debugger) is? Are there some examples, e.g. how to add a memory model or a 
coprocessor model?

Is there a better list for questions dealing with ARM CPUs and embedded 
systems?

Thank you.
-- 
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Even on the risc of being flamed : Is there any support for the
Connect32-SCSI-Controller ?
The list on the Web seems a little out of date to me..

If not, would it be possible to use the driver from NeBSD or port it
somehow ?

Any comments ?

Thx anyhow,

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Has anyone managed to get Mozilla (mozilla-19981008) working yet? I've
tried, but only succeeded in getting an executable that hangs when run. I'm
not sure how to proceed further, at least not without  an elf version of
gdb that works on a RISCPC. Does such a version exist anywhere?

Chris.

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Where do people get there distributions to run arm-linux from?  I've
been having a lot of difficulty getting one running and have tried the
distributions both on Russel's page and on the netwinder pages and
neither have worked.  I got invalid memory accesses when running them. 
With a recently built distribution using the RPMs from Russel's page I
get the following error from bash (and other programs):
bash: memory violation at pc=0x00029cd8, lr=0x2000d060 (bad
address=0x00000000, code 3)                                         

I get similar errors (though at different addresses) using different
distributions.  Is there something I'm missing when building my
distribution?  I'm building the distribution on an Intel linux box and
NFS exporting it to an EBSA-285 running linux 2.1.131.  Could it be a
glitch in my kernel that I need to fix?  Any help would be appreciated -
I'm at a loss here...

Thanks,
Jon 
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Russell King wrote:

>The latest ARM kernel patch for 2.1.132 is now on the FTP site.

I've updated my all-in-one kernel patch relative to this version and it's in 
the usual place on netwinder.org.  As ever, check the CHANGES.philb file at 
the top level for full details of what is included.

p.


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On Sun, 3 Jan 1999 Philip.Blundell@pobox.com wrote:

> >I'll be able to test it on Monday.  My problem is that execution never
> >gets out of pthread_create() nor a thread is started.  I started to trace
> >glibc v.106 and something hangs in thread_manager() or similar.  I'll get
> >more details on Monday too.
> 
> OK.  If you can strace the failing process that would be very helpful.  Also 
> if you mail me your binary I can see if it works on another machine.  (The 
> gnu.org mail server seems to be experiencing some downtime, so use this 
> address rather than my usual one.)

OK.  Finally found it.  It seems that threads can't work if they are
started from a process which PID is 1.  At some point in pthread_manager()
there is a test to see if getppid() returns 1 and if so, all threads are
killed because the main thread would have died.  In my case, the main
thread isn't dead but rather init itself.  Kind of subtile...

Don't know if it should be considered as a bug, but at least noted
somewhere as a limitation.

Thanks for your help!

P.S.: Don't know if I missed it, but what's needed to make floating point
work correctly with statically linked binaries?


Nicolas Pitre, B. ing.
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HI

X-mas I successfully installed ARMLinux on my RISCPC. Now I try to use
a german keyboard and managed to get it working without X. But in X it
doesnot really work. Only the 'y' and the 'z' are at the right place,
but that's all. Contrary to Linux on Intel there seems to be no
'XF86config'?!

My next question is, if there is Latex for ARMLinux?

Thank you 

Uli Schwanecke
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At 01:29 PM 1/4/99 +0100, you wrote:
>
>I have three questions (all somewhat offtopic, but I hope that there is 
>somebody on the list using ARM CPUs in embedded system design):

>Does anybody know, if the syntax of the GNUassembler for the ARM CPU is the 
>same as of ARMs software development toolkit?

It is not the same - the ARM syntax is somewhat odd as I remember.

>Does anybody know if gdb for the ARM code is extendable as armsd (symbolic 
>debugger) is? Are there some examples, e.g. how to add a memory model or a 
>coprocessor model?

Hmm? 'armsd' is a monitor'/debugger often built with the ARMulator ARM
emulator
which does the emulation and has the memory models.  As I remember newer
versions
of GDB are also supplied with an ARM emulator which is actually an older
release
of the ARMulator used with ARMsd.  As I remember the version distributed
with gdb
is a bit buggy - but it is extendible (in the same way as the ARM version).

Dave

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> Does anybody know if gdb for the ARM code is extendable as armsd (symbolic 
> debugger) is? Are there some examples, e.g. how to add a memory model or a 
> coprocessor model?

You get source code to the entire thing. I can't think of anything more
you could possibly need. Also for kernel debugging work you can run gdb
over a serial port and single step a target from a remote gdb - very
useful inded

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>Does anybody know, if the syntax of the GNUassembler for the ARM CPU is the 
>same as of ARMs software development toolkit?

It's similar but not 100% identical.  You should have no problem learning the 
GNU syntax, but don't expect old code that you wrote with the SDT to build 
unchanged.

>Does anybody know if gdb for the ARM code is extendable as armsd (symbolic 
>debugger) is? Are there some examples, e.g. how to add a memory model or a 
>coprocessor model?

The GDB documentation might cover this; I can't remember.  I've never used 
armsd in anger so I don't know how extensible it actually is. :-)

>Is there a better list for questions dealing with ARM CPUs and embedded 
>systems?

Not really.  You could try the comp.sys.arm newsgroup.

p.


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> At 01:29 PM 1/4/99 +0100, you wrote:
> >
> >I have three questions (all somewhat offtopic, but I hope that there is 
> >somebody on the list using ARM CPUs in embedded system design):
> 
> >Does anybody know, if the syntax of the GNUassembler for the ARM CPU is the 
> >same as of ARMs software development toolkit?
> 
> It is not the same - the ARM syntax is somewhat odd as I remember.
> 

Do you know if there is somewhere a reference card for the GNU syntax? Or 
could you just send me a small hello world program in GNU syntax?

> Hmm? 'armsd' is a monitor'/debugger often built with the ARMulator ARM
> emulator
> which does the emulation and has the memory models.  

Yes, that is right.

> As I remember newer
> versions
> of GDB are also supplied with an ARM emulator which is actually an older
> release
> of the ARMulator used with ARMsd.  As I remember the version distributed
> with gdb
> is a bit buggy - but it is extendible (in the same way as the ARM version).
> 

Is this documented somewhere? ARM distributes a "free of charge" version of 
SDT 2.02 for universities. I would be interested, if it is based on the same 
armulator as supplied with gdb.

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Rainer Dorsch wrote:

> Do you know if there is somewhere a reference card for the GNU syntax? Or
> could you just send me a small hello world program in GNU syntax?

I've never seen one - the easiest way I find is to compile something with
gcc -S and look at the assembler you get!

> > As I remember newer  versions
> > of GDB are also supplied with an ARM emulator which is actually an older
> > release
> > of the ARMulator used with ARMsd.  As I remember the version distributed
> > with gdb
> > is a bit buggy - but it is extendible (in the same way as the ARM version).
> >
> 
> Is this documented somewhere? ARM distributes a "free of charge" version of
> SDT 2.02 for universities. I would be interested, if it is based on the same
> armulator as supplied with gdb.

Some time ago ARM released an old version of their ARMulator under GPL - it is
that which is included with GDB.  The memory model interfaces were pretty much
identical
to the commercial versions until recently when they improved the commercial
models
a bit.

Dave


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I just wanted to confirm that see the same problem now and then.
It sure would be nice to have a tar image of the "working system" tree
full of binary files from the creators.

Hwa-Jin Bae         
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	I'm trying to install egcs 1.1.1 on a Netwinder.  I did the
following:

1)  Unpack egcs-1.1.1
2)  Apply latest patch (egcs-1.1.1-arm-diff-981227.gz)
3)  ./configure --prefix=/usr/local --target=arm-linuxaout --with-gnu
--with-cpu=strongarm110
4)  make "LANGUAGES=c c++"

and it bombs with:

gcc -DCROSS_COMPILE -DIN_GCC    -g -O2  -DHAVE_CONFIG_H     -I. -I.
-I./config \
-DPREFIX=\"/usr/local\" \
  -c `echo ./prefix.c | sed 's,^\./,,'`
In file included from config/arm/aout.h:259,
                 from config/arm/linux-aout.h:56,
                 from tm.h:2,
                 from config/arm/xm-arm.h:54,
                 from config/arm/xm-linux.h:22,
                 from config.h:2,
                 from prefix.c:66:
config/arm/arm.h:56: syntax error before `enum'
make[1]: *** [prefix.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr2/src/egcs-1.1.1/gcc'
make: *** [all-gcc] Error 2

	I tried altering the parameters to configure (specifying the
host/build machine, etc) but no luck.  Am I missing a patch here?

Thanks,

Chris

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Someone this week mailed me to ask if I will be doing 2.2 kernels, but I
seem to be unable to trace this email (I can't see a subject which refers
to it, and I can't remember when it was, so it's lost).

The answer to the question is, of course, yes, I will be, and my next patch
will probably be against a 2.2pre patch.
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Tom Lawton writes:
>  Is there any news on getting an EtherB with 80C04.AE card to work? I know
> there was work on updating the Ether3 driver but I've heard nothing since.

I don't think that there was anything wrong with the driver, however I did
find a couple of things which were killing both the Ether3 and the AcornSCSI
drivers.

If you've got the capability to compile a new kernel, the latest 2.0.35 patch
is on the FTP site:

 ftp://ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/armlinux/kernel-sources/v2.0/patch-2.0.35.gz

Otherwise, I may be able to find time to produce a new kernel and a set of
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//Stany writes:
> In my case there seems to be a problem with the Makefile referencing
> variable ZLINKFLAGS in /usr/src/linux/arch/arc/boot/compressed/Makefile
> As a result at the final stage of the compile the compile dies with the
> following:
> ...
> ld -m elf32arm -Ttext  -o vmlinux head.o misc.o  piggy.o
> ld: invalid hex number `-o'
> Comments?

That particular problem will be fixed for the next patch (2.2-pre4 atm).

> BTW, if anyone out there has a working .config file for any recent kernel
> that boots under NetWinder and detects most of the hardware, I would
> gladly appreciate a copy.

Please find the attached gzip'd and uuencoded config file that I use for
my Netwinder.  It does contain a lot of modules though, but should give
you a good starting point.  Please tailor the CONFIG_CMDLINE option to
your system if you're asking NeTTrom to load the 'Image' kernel.

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Jonathan Foster Kliegman writes:
> Where do people get there distributions to run arm-linux from?

Mostly from the FTP site.

> I've been having a lot of difficulty getting one running and have tried
> the distributions both on Russell's page and on the Netwinder pages and
> neither have worked.

Hmm, sounds worrying.  I believe that both are in a working state.

> I got invalid memory accesses when running them.
> With a recently built distribution using the RPMs from Russell's page I
> get the following error from bash (and other programs):
>
> bash: memory violation at pc=0x00029cd8, lr=0x2000d060 (bad address=0x00000000, code 3)

Could you try running the same kernel, except with the data cache off?
Look in arch/arm/kernel/head-armv.S, and make the following change in
.Larmv4_flush_early, from:
                orr     r0, r0, #0x003d                         @ I...S..DPWC.M
to:
                orr     r0, r0, #0x0039                         @ I...S..DPWC.M

This will reduce the performance of the StrongARM significantly, but it would
give an indication as to what the problem is.  Let us know how you get on.
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> Even on the risc of being flamed : Is there any support for the
> Connect32-SCSI-Controller ?
> The list on the Web seems a little out of date to me..
> 
> If not, would it be possible to use the driver from NeBSD or port it
> somehow ?

You can certainlky use the driver to find out how it is driven. In terms
of actually porting a driver and merging it with Linux you'd need the
original authors permission for the normal netbsd license to change to a GPL
license as well for you rcopy
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hi all,
I need to build a development environment on a Intel PC running
Linux (my host machine).  And this development environment=20
should support SA1100 (my target machine) to run also Linux.=20


Philip Blundell suggested that the tools at this website
 http://www.tazenda.demon.co.uk/phil/arm-tools.html=20
(the Binutils (v2.9.1.0.19a) &  the GCC (EGCS v1.1.1) )
is the correct one for my above mentioned project.

Is this true becoz' the site at
 http://www.cygnus.com/pubs/gnupro/5_ut/c_Usingbinutils/
binTarget_Selection.html
   seems to suggest otherwise... pls help !!??


best regards.
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>hi all,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>I need to build a development =
environment=20
on a Intel PC running<BR>Linux (my host machine).&nbsp; And this =
development=20
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<DIV>should support SA1100 (my target machine) to run also Linux. =
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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tools at this=20
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href=3D"http://www.tazenda.demon.co.uk/phil/arm-tools.html">http://www.ta=
zenda.demon.co.uk/phil/arm-tools.html</A>=20
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<DIV>(the Binutils (v2.9.1.0.19a) &amp;&nbsp; the GCC (EGCS v1.1.1) =
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<DIV>is the correct one for my above mentioned project.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Is this true becoz' the site =
at</FONT></DIV>
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href=3D"http://www.cygnus.com/pubs/gnupro/5_ut/c_Usingbinutils/">http://w=
ww.cygnus.com/pubs/gnupro/5_ut/c_Usingbinutils/</A></FONT></DIV>
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href=3D"http://www.cygnus.com/pubs/gnupro/5_ut/c_Usingbinutils/binTarget_=
Selection.html">binTarget_Selection.html</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; seems to suggest =
otherwise... pls=20
help !!??</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>best=20
regards.<BR>*************************************************************=
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brennon&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
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On Mon, 4 Jan 1999, Chris Gransden wrote:
> Has anyone managed to get Mozilla (mozilla-19981008) working yet? I've

That's _old_. Moz has completely changed since then.

> tried, but only succeeded in getting an executable that hangs when run. I'm

Someone did manage to get a version to work on the NetWinder a while ago,
but since then everything has changed and it no longer works. I spent a
while trying to get it going myself but gave up eventually. Apparently
Netscape for the 'Winder is in late beta now... perhaps you could ask them
nicely to compile a version which will run on a RISCPC for you?

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On Tue, 5 Jan 1999, Alan Cox wrote:
> you could possibly need. Also for kernel debugging work you can run gdb
> over a serial port and single step a target from a remote gdb - very
> useful inded

I've heard that before, but how do you actually do it?

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>P.S.: Don't know if I missed it, but what's needed to make floating point
>work correctly with statically linked binaries?

I don't know.  Nobody has debugged it yet.

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>3)  ./configure --prefix=/usr/local --target=arm-linuxaout --with-gnu
>--with-cpu=strongarm110

Are you sure you want to target an a.out system?  You don't need --with-gnu by 
the way, it's the default for Linux.

>gcc -DCROSS_COMPILE -DIN_GCC    -g -O2  -DHAVE_CONFIG_H     -I. -I.
>-I./config \
>-DPREFIX=\"/usr/local\" \
>  -c `echo ./prefix.c | sed 's,^\./,,'`
>In file included from config/arm/aout.h:259,
>                 from config/arm/linux-aout.h:56,
>                 from tm.h:2,
>                 from config/arm/xm-arm.h:54,
>                 from config/arm/xm-linux.h:22,
>                 from config.h:2,
>                 from prefix.c:66:
>config/arm/arm.h:56: syntax error before `enum'
>make[1]: *** [prefix.o] Error 1
>make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr2/src/egcs-1.1.1/gcc'
>make: *** [all-gcc] Error 2

My guess is that config.h has something nasty in it, maybe because of a broken 
autoconf or something.  If there's nothing obvious there, run it through gcc 
-E and look at whatever comes immediately before that enum in the output.  
99% of the headers in config/arm are just #defines so it should be fairly 
obvious.

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> and it bombs with:
> 
> gcc -DCROSS_COMPILE -DIN_GCC    -g -O2  -DHAVE_CONFIG_H     -I. -I.
> -I./config \
> -DPREFIX=\"/usr/local\" \
>   -c `echo ./prefix.c | sed 's,^\./,,'`
> In file included from config/arm/aout.h:259,
>                  from config/arm/linux-aout.h:56,
>                  from tm.h:2,
>                  from config/arm/xm-arm.h:54,
>                  from config/arm/xm-linux.h:22,
>                  from config.h:2,
>                  from prefix.c:66:
> config/arm/arm.h:56: syntax error before `enum'

	Ok, this really was what it seemed.  In the file "auto-host.h" in
egcs-1.1.1/gcc the word "TOP" (line 106) is getting generated by
configure. I don't know why that would happen, but removing the line fixes
it.

Chris

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Excerpts from linux-arm: 5-Jan-99 Re: Getting working distrib.. by
Russell A. L. Admin@arm. 
> Jonathan Foster Kliegman writes:
> > Where do people get there distributions to run arm-linux from?
>  
> Mostly from the FTP site.

I've picked up the distribution from
ftp://ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/armlinux/RedHat/RPMS/ but those appear to
be older versions using libc.4.  My understanding is that I need at
least libc.6 to use a 2.1.xxx kernel.
  
> Could you try running the same kernel, except with the data cache off?
> Look in arch/arm/kernel/head-armv.S, and make the following change in
> .Larmv4_flush_early, from:

I made the changes and am still getting the same problems.  Right now
init (the init found in SysVinit-2.74-2.armv4.rpm on the netwinder site)
gives me the following error:

init: memory violation at pc=0x01780020, lr=0x00000000 (bad
address=0x01780020, code 3)

I get the same error with and without the data cache being enabled.  

Also - I get an error, "Warning: unable to open an initial console."
which I've been ignoring - is this indicative of something majorly wrong?

Finally - if anyone has a working distribution for a 2.1.xxx kernel they
wouldn't mind tarring up and ftp'ing somewhere I'd be extremely grateful.

-Jon 
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From: Tom Lawton <tolawton@usa.net>
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Subject: ARCIN  v6 trouble
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Hi,

 Having recently compiled a new 2.0.35 kernel with ARCIN support, I rebooted
and the bootup took quite some time due to problems with the card. Can anyone
explain them and tell me how to prevent them? The most obvious method I can
think of is to recompile without support but I'd prefer to use the drive if
possible.

 There was a long pause after the "unrecognised interrupt from backplane",
and after every "irq timeout".

 The card is one bought from APDL, marked "ARCIN v6B"
 
 Thanks,
 
 Tom




Console: colour A-series 128x96x256, 1 virtual console (max 63) Installed
expansion cards:
  0:      [003C:00AE] IDE & CDFS Expansion Card
  8:      [0053:00E4] ANT Ethernet (00:02:07:04:48:f0) Acorn Access / AUN (DCI4)

 [snip]
 
icside: detected ARCIN V6 in slot 0
hda: Seagate Technology 1275MB - ST31276A, 1221MB w/0kB Cache, CHS=2482/16/63
hde: Conner Peripherals 850MB - CFS850A, 812MB w/64kB Cache, CHS=1651/16/63
hdf: CD820E.0v1098300, ATAPI CDROM drive ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 9
ide2 at 0x800d0c00-0x800d0c07,0x800d0ce0 on irq 32 Partition check:
 hda: [ADFS] hda1 [Linux] hda2 < hda3 hda4 >
 hde:<3>
Unrecognised interrupt from backplane

Interrupt lockup detected - disabling expansion card IRQs
Expansion card IRQ state:
  0: claimed, irqaddr = e0342290, irqmask = 1, status=FE
hde: irq timeout: status=0x50 { DriveReady SeekComplete }
hde: irq timeout: status=0x50 { DriveReady SeekComplete }
hde: irq timeout: status=0x50 { DriveReady SeekComplete }
hde: irq timeout: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
ide2: reset: success
hde: irq timeout: status=0x50 { DriveReady SeekComplete }
hde: irq timeout: status=0x50 { DriveReady SeekComplete }
hde: irq timeout: status=0x50 { DriveReady SeekComplete }
hde: irq timeout: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
ide2: reset: success
hde: irq timeout: status=0x50 { DriveReady SeekComplete }
end_request: I/O error, dev 21:00, sector 0
 unable to read boot sectors / partition sectors


 [the kernel then continued bootup successfully]

-- 

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On Tue, 5 Jan 1999, Richard Bradbury wrote:

> On Mon, 04 Jan 1999 00:03:11, Tom Lawton wrote:
> >
> > Is there any news on getting an EtherB with 80C04.AE card to work? I know
> > there was work on updating the Ether3 driver but I've heard nothing since.
> 
> I never managed to get my EtherB working when I looked into it last year.
> Would try again if my RiscPC wasn't 100 miles in one direction and the
> EtherB wasn't 100 miles in the opposite...

Yeah, and I'd like to know too.

I presume that that number specifies 10BaseT.  If not then I have a
spare 10Base2 card (podule) that I'm not using if anyone is
interested.

Spare 486 card for that matter too.

John.

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Hello,

I have had a problem with X ever since I installed ARMLinux half a year
ago: Sometimes, when I want to resize a window or bring it to the top of
the stack, X aborts and returns me to the command line.

Now I've found a way of reproducing the problem. It happens with fvwm2,
fvwm and also olwm, so it doesn't seem to be a bug in a window manager.

Using a pager with 2x2 screens, I open an xterm in the upper left of the
four screens. I position its window in the very upper left corner of the
screen and enlarge it to make it as tall as the screen. Next, I choose
the "Huge" font from xterm's menu, which causes the window to become
taller than the screen. Having switched to the pager screen below the
one I used before, I try to alter the height of the xterm window. The
moment I click on the lower border, the X server aborts with a
sementation fault at 0x20008de8.

I'm running the 2.0.35 kernel on a 36+1MB SA RiscPC. sum
/usr/X11R6/bin/X gives "13910 1498".

Cheers,

  Richard

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Hwa-Jin Bae writes:
> I just wanted to confirm that see the same problem now and then.
> It sure would be nice to have a tar image of the "working system" tree
> full of binary files from the creators.

It would be nice to have a lot of things (eg, a fast connection), but
alas, I can't afford one, so this is not possible.

However, the RPM format is quite secure when installing - either it does
or it doesn't.  You can get rpm to verify an installation afterwards -
rpm -V package-name.  It will list out the files which have been modifed
since installation in table format, each letter:

       5      MD5 sum	(contents of file)
       S      File size
       L      Symlink
       T      Mtime
       D      Device
       U      User
       G      Group
       M      Mode (includes permissions and file type)

If you see a 'c' following the table, then that is a configuration file.
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The performance will still suck---they didn't wire up the interrupt
line...


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> The performance will still suck---they didn't wire up the interrupt
> line...

Uggh..  thats like the $5 PC scanner adapters
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On Wed, 6 Jan 1999, loh york hong, brennon wrote:

> hi all,
> I need to build a development environment on a Intel PC running
> Linux (my host machine).  And this development environment 
> should support SA1100 (my target machine) to run also Linux. 
> 
> 
> Philip Blundell suggested that the tools at this website
>  http://www.tazenda.demon.co.uk/phil/arm-tools.html 
> (the Binutils (v2.9.1.0.19a) &  the GCC (EGCS v1.1.1) )
> is the correct one for my above mentioned project.
> 
> Is this true becoz' the site at
>  http://www.cygnus.com/pubs/gnupro/5_ut/c_Usingbinutils/
> binTarget_Selection.html
>    seems to suggest otherwise... pls help !!??

You can believe Philip.


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>Is this true becoz' the site at
> http://www.cygnus.com/pubs/gnupro/5_ut/c_Usingbinutils/
>binTarget_Selection.html
>   seems to suggest otherwise... pls help !!??

The GNUPro toolkit won't currently target a Linux/ARM system correctly.  Some 
future version will be able to do this but it won't work right now as far as I 
know.

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In article <199901050837.AA022165424@fb0439.mathematik.tu-darmstadt.de>
    Ulrich Schwanecke <schwanecke@mathematik.tu-darmstadt.de> wrote:

> Now I try to use a german keyboard and managed to get it working
> without X. But in X it doesnot really work. Only the 'y' and the 'z'
> are at the right place, but that's all. Contrary to Linux on Intel
> there seems to be no 'XF86config'?!

AFAIK, you just can't make it work properly. I use a workaround: With my
keymap, F5 to F12 insert the characters {[]}\~|@. Additionally, I've
configured emacs to insert '{' for Meta-7 etc.

Since this subject turns up quite often, I've now put together a small
"German keyboard FAQ" and sent it to Uli and also to Russell.

> My next question is, if there is Latex for ARMLinux?

Stock answer for ARMLinux: "You'll probably have to compile it
yourself." :)

Bye,

  Richard

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Alex Holden wrote
> 
> On Tue, 5 Jan 1999, Alan Cox wrote:
> > you could possibly need. Also for kernel debugging work you can run gdb
> > over a serial port and single step a target from a remote gdb - very
> > useful inded
> 
> I've heard that before, but how do you actually do it?

The GDB info pages are fairly detailed in this respect.  I've
not done it on Linux, but have on other UNIX kernels.  What it
amounts to is:

- Cause the kernel to jump to the gdb remote stub at some point
  (either by recompiling it or with a boot-line parameter, depending
   on what your kernel supports)
- Start (a compatible) gdb running on a machine connected to the
  machine you want to debug (via a serial port).  Lets presume
  that the maching running gdb uses /dev/tty01 to talk to the
  machine you want to debug.
  (we used to have to use the "-k" parameter to gdb, as well, to
   debug the kernel)
- At the gdb prompt, you use the "target" command to select a
  protocol and destination to debug.  The simplest protocol,
  which works over the serial port, is "remote".  So, you would
  type "target remote /dev/tty01" to attach gdb to the other
  machine's kernel.

At that point you should be able to step through and debug things.
You will need access to a kernel with symbols and all necessary
sources on the machine running the debugger.  You may need the
"file" command to get your symbol-laden kernel loaded.

D

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Hi,

I've made a new patch containing my latest iBCS/ARM efforts.  It's at

ftp://ftp.netwinder.org/users/p/philb/ibcs-2.1-981105-arm-990107.diff.gz

Enough stuff works now that the NetBSD/arm32 dynamic loader and shared 
libraries seem to run.  System calls that ought to return 64-bit results don't 
do the right thing yet though and fork() is still not implemented.

p.


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Russell King wrote:

> Hwa-Jin Bae writes:
> > I just wanted to confirm that see the same problem now and then.
> > It sure would be nice to have a tar image of the "working system" tree
> > full of binary files from the creators.
> 
> It would be nice to have a lot of things (eg, a fast connection), but
> alas, I can't afford one, so this is not possible.

If it is only this:

If you could find a way to modify the ArmLinux partition manager for RiscOS
machines so that it can coexist with the NetBSD partition manager, you could
get a login for a Strongarm RiscPC with 32MB Ram, about 2 GB harddisk space
and a fast internet connection (800kBytes/sec max., 150kBytes/sec to
ftp.arm.uk.linux.org).

There you could remotely compile them and upload them where you want. You
could also instruct me how to do it, but all only if that partition manager
thing will work ...


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Does anybody know, if the GPLed armulator supports thumb code?

Thank you.


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(Tony)John Penton wrote:

>> On Mon, 04 Jan 1999 00:03:11, Tom Lawton wrote:
>> >
>> > Is there any news on getting an EtherB with 80C04.AE card to work? I know
>> > there was work on updating the Ether3 driver but I've heard nothing since.
>> 
>I presume that that number specifies 10BaseT.

No; it's the number of the SEEQ controller chip on the board.  Ether3 and 
EtherB cards were made with a range of variations on the 80C04 and 80C05 theme.

If you've got the card to hand and can look at it, it should be fairly obvious 
which you have.

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>be older versions using libc.4.  My understanding is that I need at
>least libc.6 to use a 2.1.xxx kernel.

Not quite.  You need a ELF compiler to *build* a 2.1 kernel, and in some 
cases you need libc-6 to take full advantage of the new features in 2.1, but 
old userland stuff will carry on working indefinitely so long as you compile 
in a.out support.

>Also - I get an error, "Warning: unable to open an initial console."
>which I've been ignoring - is this indicative of something majorly wrong?

Check your /dev/console.

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Jonathan Foster Kliegman writes:
> I've picked up the distribution from
> ftp://ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/armlinux/RedHat/RPMS/ but those appear to
> be older versions using libc.4.  My understanding is that I need at
> least libc.6 to use a 2.1.xxx kernel.

libc.4 will work with 2.1.xxx kernels.

> > Could you try running the same kernel, except with the data cache off?
> > Look in arch/arm/kernel/head-armv.S, and make the following change in
> > .Larmv4_flush_early, from:
> 
> I made the changes and am still getting the same problems.  Right now
> init (the init found in SysVinit-2.74-2.armv4.rpm on the netwinder site)
> gives me the following error:
> 
> init: memory violation at pc=0x01780020, lr=0x00000000 (bad
> address=0x01780020, code 3)

This looks like a libc.4 executable, but it should work nevertheless.

> I get the same error with and without the data cache being enabled.  
> 
> Also - I get an error, "Warning: unable to open an initial console."
> which I've been ignoring - is this indicative of something majorly wrong?

Quite possibly - check that you have /dev/console present, and it is
the right major/minor device numbers.
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Tom Lawton writes:
> icside: detected ARCIN V6 in slot 0
> hda: Seagate Technology 1275MB - ST31276A, 1221MB w/0kB Cache, CHS=2482/16/63
> hde: Conner Peripherals 850MB - CFS850A, 812MB w/64kB Cache, CHS=1651/16/63
> hdf: CD820E.0v1098300, ATAPI CDROM drive ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 9
> ide2 at 0x800d0c00-0x800d0c07,0x800d0ce0 on irq 32 Partition check:
>  hda: [ADFS] hda1 [Linux] hda2 < hda3 hda4 >
>  hde:<3>
> Unrecognised interrupt from backplane

Oops, this means that the expansion card layer does not know where the
interrupt came from.

> Interrupt lockup detected - disabling expansion card IRQs
> Expansion card IRQ state:
>   0: claimed, irqaddr = e0342290, irqmask = 1, status=FE

That's saying that the interrupt status register for card 0 is not
indicating that the card is not causing an interrupt.  I suspect that
the registers are not pointing at the correct place.

Which connector are your drives connected to?
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I've made a new 2.1 kernel patch.  If you like to follow the bleeding edge, 
give it a go.

ftp://ftp.netwinder.org/users/p/philb/linux-2.1.132-philb-990108.gz

Mostly this is more small fixes; compiler warnings, a fix to xconfig to stop 
it crashing, etc.  There are some changes to ioremap-related things as well, 
plus a couple of bits that are needed if you want to use iBCS.

Enjoy.

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>- Cause the kernel to jump to the gdb remote stub at some point
>  (either by recompiling it or with a boot-line parameter, depending
>   on what your kernel supports)

I think that's the current stumbling block.  Nobody has yet contributed a gdb 
stub for the Linux kernel on ARM to my knowledge.  There's been interest in 
the past; I don't know if anybody is working on it at the moment.

p.


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You might remember I was having some trouble with 2.1 kernels on my A5000 a 
month or so back.  I just had another go at this.  It seems that at least part 
of the problem was due to being out of memory.  Arranging for the kernel to 
install swap-space before launching init now allows me to boot with 
init=/bin/ash and run most simple binaries.  If I let the real init start then 
it still dies with address exceptions all over the place.

Something seems to be slightly amiss with the floppy driver as well.  
Alt-ScrollLock reports `FIQs: off' most of the time which looks a bit 
suspicious.  I haven't tried to track this down yet though.

p.


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I have the same problem as Jonathan in my ARM Linux installation.
The memory violation error happens occasionally -- not always.
The systems runs well enough to do a lot of useful work,but
eventually it dies under stress test.  Programs like sed and
portmap seem to always have memory violation during init.

I have been thinking this either has to do with glibc ld-linux.so or
kernel level caching problem.  Upgrading glibc to 2.0.106 was something
I have been trying to do for a long time.  My build of 2.0.106 glibc
builds fine, but then at run time the dynamic linker always gives out
IO_2_1_stdin not found error.  Very wierd.  Turning cache completely off
in the kernel doesn't remedy the situation either.

Some people apparently have a solidly working 2.1.X kernel.  Can anyone
elaborate on the version of the toolchain they use to create kernel,
glibc stuff, and other binaries?  Can anyone upload a working tree image
somewhere?  

It would also help to hear from people (other than Russell and Philip)
what their experiences are with 2.1.X kernels.

Sorry to have so many requests, but I am a little desperate here.
Thanks.
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The FTP site is currently unreachable due to what seems to be a failure
on the Janet network.  Once the problem has been resolved, I'll make
patches available for 2.0.36 and 2.2.0-pre6.

Appologies for any inconvience.
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Hi Phil,
  I'm having a problem trying to build 2.1.132 for old Arcs - I'm
getting a complaint about asm causing impossible reload in the
consolemap.c file - from uaccess.h
This is using egcs-1.1.1 with your patches.

Seen it? Know of a cure?

Dave 

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Ok, since Janet don't seem to becoming alive for a while yet, I've put on
the old ARM Linux FTP site the patch for Linux 2.0.36.  The address for it
is:

  ftp.ecs.soton.ac.uk:/pub/armlinux/kernel-sources/v2.0/patch-arm-2.0.36-19990109.gz

This is only a temporary measure - the site is no longer maintained, so
don't expect anything else useful to be there.  This patch will appear on
ftp.arm.linux.org.uk when Janet resurfaces.

For all those wanting a 2.2.0pre6 patch, if ftp.arm.linux.org.uk isn't online,
I'll put that in:

  ftp.ecs.soton.ac.uk:/pub/armlinux/kernel-sources/v2.2

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The Armulator in the ARM Ltd. STD (Software Development Toolkit)  does
indeed support thumb code.  I assume that you are referring to a reseller.

--TFH

At 09:38 AM 1/8/99 +0100, you wrote:
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>Does anybody know, if the GPLed armulator supports thumb code?
>
>Thank you.
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>I have the same problem as Jonathan in my ARM Linux installation.
>The memory violation error happens occasionally -- not always.
>The systems runs well enough to do a lot of useful work,but
>eventually it dies under stress test. 

What sort of stress test are you doing?

For a long time I've been seeing processes dying at random under heavy 
swapping (with both 2.0 and 2.1 kernels if I remember right).  I posted 
either here or on the NetWinder devel list about it a month or so ago.  
Russell never seemed particularly interested in this though and I haven't had 
a chance to debug it any further.

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>  I'm having a problem trying to build 2.1.132 for old Arcs - I'm
>getting a complaint about asm causing impossible reload in the
>consolemap.c file - from uaccess.h
>This is using egcs-1.1.1 with your patches.

Do you have my kernel patch applied?

p.


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>P.S. What is the story on FPEM for 2.2 on old Arcs....

Hi Dave,

At the moment I think you're stuck.  Russell didn't reply to my mail asking 
about his plans in that direction.  It shouldn't be hard to write the glue to 
make NWFPE work -- basically you need to make a new version of arch/arm/nwfpe/
entry.S that expects the calling convention used in kernel/entry-armo.S.

p.


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On Sun, 10 Jan 1999, Philip Blundell wrote:

> >  I'm having a problem trying to build 2.1.132 for old Arcs - I'm
> >getting a complaint about asm causing impossible reload in the
> >consolemap.c file - from uaccess.h
> >This is using egcs-1.1.1 with your patches.
> 
> Do you have my kernel patch applied?

No it wasnt - with the kernel patch in I now get a happy smiling Tux
looking at me from my emulator....now just to find my disc image....


Dave

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Hi,

I've made a new ARM patch for egcs 1.1.1.  You can find it at

ftp://ftp.netwinder.org/users/p/philb/egcs-1.1.1-arm-diff-990110.gz

C++ now works for me again.  Jim, can you see if this solves your problems 
with undefined symbols?

p.


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Hi All,

I have just released the 2.2.0-pre6 patch for ARM, which can be found
at a slightly different location from normal.  (Part of the UK's academic
network has collapsed due to routing problems, and the normal FTP site
is inaccessible).

The patch is available at:

  ftp://ftp.ecs.soton.ac.uk/pub/armlinux/kernel-sources/v2.2


I have some some changes to the ARM header files which may break on certain
configurations.  Could people let me know about these breakages please?

The other major change in this kernel is the expansion card support for Acorn
machines - it now initialises the cards in a simulated RISC OS environment,
so most of the blacklist has gone.  If possible, could people running the
2.1/2.2 kernels try this out please?
   _____
  |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+-
  |   |        Russell King       linux@arm.linux.org.uk      --- ---
  | | | |  http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/~rmk/armlinux.html    /  /  |
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Philip Blundell <philb@gnu.org> writes:

> Hi,
> 
> I've made a new ARM patch for egcs 1.1.1.  You can find it at
> 
> ftp://ftp.netwinder.org/users/p/philb/egcs-1.1.1-arm-diff-990110.gz
> 
> C++ now works for me again.  Jim, can you see if this solves your problems 
> with undefined symbols?

It seems to be working excellently so far.  Good work!  I'm going to
try compiling a few more things.  If I don't encounter any more
problems - I'll merge the patch into the main Debian egcs source
package.  :-)

Cheers,

 - Jim

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> The Armulator in the ARM Ltd. STD (Software Development Toolkit)  does
> indeed support thumb code.  I assume that you are referring to a reseller.

GPL'd normally means "under the GPL license" - ie the free version of the
ARMulator - the one everyone really uses
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On Sat, 9 Jan 1999, Carol Herbert wrote:
> The Armulator in the ARM Ltd. STD (Software Development Toolkit)  does
> indeed support thumb code.  I assume that you are referring to a reseller.

No, I think he meant the GPLed one:

> >Does anybody know, if the GPLed armulator supports thumb code?

It comes with the GDB source (I've never used it though, and don't know
whether it does thumb or not).

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Philip Blundell said:
> For a long time I've been seeing processes dying at random under heavy 
> swapping (with both 2.0 and 2.1 kernels if I remember right).  I posted 
> either here or on the NetWinder devel list about it a month or so ago.  
> Russell never seemed particularly interested in this though and I haven't had 
> a chance to debug it any further.

Not at all - it's just that I don't see it often enough to debug it.

BTW, my Netwinder is (hopefully) compiling most of gnome now (thanks to
someone who helped me debug Corel's r10 disk image, details later).  It's
been on since last night running 2.2.0-pre6.

I've just dialed home, and unfortunately the compilation still has aborted
due to more environment problems. ;(  However, there have been no segmentation
problems.

r10 disk image changes:
-----------------------

To build gnome, you must have:

- gettext 0.10.35
- autoconf 2.12
- automake 1.3
- libtool 1.2b

You also need to remove /all/ gnome header files in
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/*/*/include

--
Russell King (rmk@milldev.demon.co.uk)

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Russell King wrote:

>Not at all - it's just that I don't see it often enough to debug it.

I think I can furnish you with a way to reproduce it fairly reliably.  I'll 
check later.

p.


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By "stress testing" I mean that I have the target machine running Linux
while banging on it from other machines over the network via NFS, Samba,
ping, telnet session doing find / -print, etc.

My port never seems to survive more than a couple of hours.

Hwa-Jin Bae         
PSO Systems, Inc. 
http://www.pso.com
mailto:hjb@pso.com  

On Sun, 10 Jan 1999, Philip Blundell wrote:

> >I have the same problem as Jonathan in my ARM Linux installation.
> >The memory violation error happens occasionally -- not always.
> >The systems runs well enough to do a lot of useful work,but
> >eventually it dies under stress test. 
> 
> What sort of stress test are you doing?
> 
> For a long time I've been seeing processes dying at random under heavy 
> swapping (with both 2.0 and 2.1 kernels if I remember right).  I posted 
> either here or on the NetWinder devel list about it a month or so ago.  
> Russell never seemed particularly interested in this though and I haven't had 
> a chance to debug it any further.
> 
> p.
> 
> 
> 

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Duh.  It turns out that the 2.2.0pre6 kernel shows up a problem with egcs' 
handling of .align.  I've put a new patch and an incremental diff against 
yesterday's version (since the change is pretty small) in the usual place on 
ftp.netwinder.org.

p.


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Hi,

 Three dim questions about X.

1) If the mouse isn't in an xterm window, it doesn't catch keypresses. I'm on
click-to-focus (fvwm2). All the other apps manage it fine, just xterm has
this problem - I can't find anything in the xdefaults that it looks like.

 I have "*input: true" in my xdefaults so it's not that...
 
 
2) Is there a system-wide version of .xdefaults which would be used if it
wasn't present in the home directory? (like /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc
style)


3) What is the purpose of the .Xclients file? It doesn't seem to be parsed at
any point.


 Thanks masses for any help,
 
 Tom



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Snappy name, huh?  Anyway, this patch is now in my directory on 
ftp.netwinder.org.

RK seems to have applied a fairly large number of bits of the previous patch 
to his tree this time round.  I think I've managed to fish out most of the 
duplicated hunks but you never know.

p.


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Hi,

Someone mailed me (as I can't find the email here, I can only assume that
they used my work address, which ain't a good idea) about an X11 crash
which can be caused by manipulating windows larger than the screen.

I have been able to reproduce this problem here (every time), and it's
looking to me like a generic X11R6 bug.

The X server is trying to access an area just before screen memory, which
doesn't exist.  Unfortunately, the X server doesn't seem to trap/handle
correctly the invalid drawable with coordinates: x=6, y=-1000 (x=0,y=0
being top-left, and increasing +vely to bottom right).

The short answer to this problem would be to recompile a later version of
X (with intl support for those who need it), but this will take some time
to sort out the sources to allow it to be compiled.
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The "processes dying at random under heavy swapping" is the same problem
as the one described earlier.  If you have CONFIG_DEBUG_USER defined,
the code in arch/arm/mm/fault-armv.c will print messages similar to the
one about "memory violation" when this happens.

When the system is under light usage, there is no problem.  This problem
only seems to happen when you have a lot of network and disk I/O going
on in parallel for a long time (30 min to 1 hour).

This is very reproducible problem in 2.1.X kernel running on EBSA285
based HW we have here.

I will ask again, are there people out there running 2.1.132 ARM Linux
on EBSA285 out there ?  If so, how reliable are they running?

THanks.
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Philip Blundell writes:
> RK seems to have applied a fairly large number of bits of the previous patch 
> to his tree this time round.  I think I've managed to fish out most of the 
> duplicated hunks but you never know.

I think that you need to do some more merging, quickly before 2.2.0
proper is actually out.  From that point on, I will not be accepting
'new feature' patches, only bug fixes with full explaination.
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>I think that you need to do some more merging, quickly before 2.2.0
>proper is actually out.  From that point on, I will not be accepting
>'new feature' patches, only bug fixes with full explaination.

Aside from one changeset which I'll send you tomorrow (and the important bit 
of which is a bugfix anyway) I believe you now have more or less everything.

p.


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In article <199901120001.AAA01983@raistlin.armlinux.org>
    Russell King - ARM Linux Admin <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> wrote:

> Someone mailed me (as I can't find the email here, I can only assume
> that they used my work address, which ain't a good idea) about an X11
> crash which can be caused by manipulating windows larger than the
> screen. [...]

That was me, but I did send it to <linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu>. I
wonder why it hasn't appeared on the list. It's good news that the
problem is reproducible!

> The short answer to this problem would be to recompile a later version
> of X (with intl support for those who need it), but this will take
> some time to sort out the sources to allow it to be compiled.

This would be very, *very* much appreciated! For me, X aborts every few
days right in the middle of a session, which can be very annoying. Also,
proper int'l keyboard support would be fantastic!

Unfortunately, I'm quite new to Linux, so I can't offer you my help. :|

Cheers,

  Richard

(BTW: Did you get the "German keyboard FAQ" I mailed to
<rmk@arm.linux.org.uk>?)
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Hi,

I've put a new patch for EGCS 1.1.1 in

ftp://ftp.netwinder.org/users/p/philb/egcs-1.1.1-arm-diff-990113.gz

This fixes a few more C++ problems (thanks to Rod Stewart for spotting these) 
and a bug which could cause the compiler to crash (courtesy of Richard 
Earnshaw).  HJ, this is probably a good candidate for your upcoming 
EGCS/Linux release.

p.


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Hi,

 I have some questions about X ( a.out ),  me too.

When open X , show message ;

Screen: 848 by 472 pixels, 256 color

Is it a default window size and color? Is there way to
change window size and color?
And, Where is it's source?

Thanks,

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ôôFunai Electric Engineering Co.,LTDôô
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On Thu, 14 Jan 1999, Hiroshi Ishii wrote:

{Snip}

> And, Where is it's source?

I think i got the source from www.x.org, or rather it's mirror at
suniste.doc.ic.ac.uk

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I build a cross-assembler for solaris with the target 

	arm-aout

./configure --target=arm-aout --prefix=/tools/ARM/usr 
make

and the same for gdb.

Running the assembler as-new of binutils works (at least there is no error 
message):

$ /tools/ARM/GNU/binutils-2.9.1.0.19a/gas/as-new -g hw_gnu.s 
$

But when running gdb, I see

$ /tools/ARM/GNU/gdb-4.17/gdb/gdb a.out
GNU gdb 4.17
Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are
welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions.
Type "show copying" to see the conditions.
There is absolutely no warranty for GDB.  Type "show warranty" for details.
This GDB was configured as "--host=sparc-sun-solaris2.6 --target=arm-aout"...
(gdb) target sim
Connected to the simulator.
(gdb) run
Starting program: /home/rainer/Work/Lehre/SoC/ARM/S2/a.out
warning: No program loaded.

Program exited normally.
No program loaded. 

 file a.out
A program is being debugged already.  Kill it? (y or n) y

Load new symbol table from "a.out"? (y or n) y
Reading symbols from a.out...done.
(gdb) run
Starting program: /home/rainer/Work/Lehre/SoC/ARM/S2/a.out
You can't do that without a process to debug 



But the info pages say:

After specifying this target, you can debug programs for the simulated
CPU in the same style as programs for your host computer; use the
`file' command to load a new program image, the `run' command to run
your program, and so on.  


Can anybody guess what I am doing wrong?

Thank you.





-- 
Rainer Dorsch
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Uni Stuttgart            Tel.: 0711-7816-215


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Does this seem a reasonable thing to do?  The patch isn't tested but you 
should get the idea.

p.

--- clean/linux/arch/arm/mm/proc-sa110.S	Tue Jan 12 13:48:12 1999
+++ linux/arch/arm/mm/proc-sa110.S	Fri Jan 15 11:20:42 1999
@@ -238,6 +238,7 @@
 		stmfd	sp!, {r4 - r9, fp, lr}		@ Store most regs on stack
 		mrs	ip, cpsr
 		stmfd	sp!, {ip}			@ Save cpsr_SVC
+		ldr	r2, [r0, #TSS_MEMMAP]		@ Get old page tables
 		str	sp, [r0, #TSS_SAVE]		@ Save sp_SVC
 		ldr	sp, [r1, #TSS_SAVE]		@ Get saved sp_SVC
 		ldr	r0, [r1, #TSK_ADDR_LIMIT]
@@ -246,6 +247,16 @@
 		movne	r0, #DOM_USERDOMAIN
 		mcr	p15, 0, r0, c3, c0		@ Set segment
 		ldr	r0, [r1, #TSS_MEMMAP]		@ Page table pointer
+		/* Flushing the cache is nightmarishly slow, so we take
+		   any excuse to get out of it.  If the old page table
+		   is the same as the new, this is a CLONE_VM relative
+		   of the old task and there is no need to flush.  The
+		   overhead of the tests isn't even on the radar compared to
+		   the cost of the flush itself.  */
+		/* @@ In future we could also check for the new task being
+		   a kernel thread.  */
+		teq	r0, r2				@ Same pagetables?
+		beq	2f
 		ldr	r3, =Lclean_switch
 		ldr	r2, [r3]
 		ands	r2, r2, #1
@@ -262,7 +273,7 @@
 		mcr	p15, 0, r1, c7, c10, 4		@ drain WB
 		mcr	p15, 0, r0, c2, c0, 0		@ load page table pointer
 		mcr	p15, 0, r1, c8, c7, 0		@ flush TLBs
-		ldmfd	sp!, {ip}
+2:		ldmfd	sp!, {ip}
 		msr	spsr, ip			@ Save tasks CPSR into SPSR for this return
 		ldmfd	sp!, {r4 - r9, fp, pc}^		@ Load all regs saved previously
 


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I wonder what version of glibc to use on an ARM-based
system? Is it possible to use the lates version or
do I need to apply any patches?

/Peter
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>I wonder what version of glibc to use on an ARM-based
>system? Is it possible to use the lates version or
>do I need to apply any patches?

Just get glibc 2.0.110, it should work straight out of the box.

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Philip Blundell writes:
> +		/* @@ In future we could also check for the new task being
> +		   a kernel thread.  */

This is no longer an option - the new kcardd keeps the expansion cards
mapped at virtual address 0x03000000 while in a kernel thread, so doing
this will cause problems with this.

kcardd gets around many problems with various expansion cards on Acorn
32-bit platforms.
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>Philip Blundell writes:
>> +		/* @@ In future we could also check for the new task being
>> +		   a kernel thread.  */
>
>This is no longer an option - the new kcardd keeps the expansion cards
>mapped at virtual address 0x03000000 while in a kernel thread, so doing
>this will cause problems with this.

OK, so we can't do it on Acorn platforms.  Others are still OK.

Exactly why does kcardd do this, out of interest?

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>So that it can access the expansion card ROMs using their loaders to get
>things like Ether addresses out of them, and shut the cards down properly
>when rebooting (so that RISC OS and Linux can re-detect them).

I see.  Does it really need a daemon do do that?  I'd have thought just 
mapping the cards temporarily at startup and again at shutdown would suffice.
Not that a daemon really hurts I suppose.

>(Interestingly, I believe that RiscBSD have to write a new loader for
>each and every card that they support).

I didn't think they used loaders at all actually.  You only really need one 
(as far as I can see) if you have software on the ROM that you want the OS to 
be able to get at without it needing to know how the hardware works.  Since 
with both Linux and RISC OS it's the case that you have to specifically 
compile in the appropriate driver, this isn't much of a win.  You can get the 
card ID data out without the loader should you so desire.

RiscBSD has a generic system of `shutdown hooks' that allow drivers to 
register a routine to be called just before halt or reboot.  This lets you 
turn the cards off again when you need to.

BTW, it occurs to me that even in the presence of kcardd (assuming there's 
only one of it) you can avoid a cache flush on context switch if the *old* 
task rather than the new one is a kernel thread.  Or we could just arrange for 
kcardd not to count as a kernel thread.

p.


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I wrote

>be able to get at without it needing to know how the hardware works.  Since 
>with both Linux and RISC OS it's the case that you have to specifically 

but I meant `both Linux and NetBSD'.  Oops.

p.


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Philip Blundell writes:
> Exactly why does kcardd do this, out of interest?

So that it can access the expansion card ROMs using their loaders to get
things like Ether addresses out of them, and shut the cards down properly
when rebooting (so that RISC OS and Linux can re-detect them).

Unfortunately, Acorn did not think about 32-bit modes when they designed
RISC OS, so there are a lot of cards out there that will not access their
cards when they're mapped into 0xe0000000.  I used to fix up the problematic
loaders (by re-writing them), but since I receive mails about Linux not
booting and people not appearing to know about the FAQ, I've decided to
go for the option that will allow 99% to work ok, rather than 30% and
the other 60% requiring either blacklisting or replacement loaders to
be written.

With kcardd, it should be able to handle 99% of loaders (since the loaders
/are/ supposed to be OS non-specific), I think that the only ones that
won't work are those which are badly written to use RISC OS SWIs.

(Interestingly, I believe that RiscBSD have to write a new loader for
each and every card that they support).
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Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote:

> (Interestingly, I believe that RiscBSD have to write a new loader for
> each and every card that they support).

Actually, NetBSD ignores loaders completely, mainly because we hardly
ever need to access the ROMs on the cards. Even in the case of reading
an ethernet hardware address, we've not had a problem getting it without
using the loader as all the cards so far supported have had the info in
the first couple of KB. Given the loader does so little, it hardly seems
worth bothering to run it. You need to nkow the h/w to drive it, and a
paging or reset register isn't exactly difficult.

Why bother with loaders, at the expense of thread switch times? On
NetBSD, I shortcut switching between different kernel threads (eg
process reaper) although that patch hasn't been committed yet which I
think is kind-of what Phil suggested.

Just playing devil's :-)

	Regards,

	Neil
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I've tried and compiled binutils for arm, but it does only
have aout and coff format (binutils-2.9.1)

Where can I find binutils that support arm-linuxelf ?

christophe
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>I've tried and compiled binutils for arm, but it does only
>have aout and coff format (binutils-2.9.1)
>
>Where can I find binutils that support arm-linuxelf ?

See http://www.tazenda.demon.co.uk/phil/armlinux/

BTW, the configuration name you're looking for is just `arm-linux'.  Using 
`arm-linuxelf' is death.

p.


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Hello,

How can I boot *straight* into Linux, bypassing that screen asking me to
select either 1.) Risc OS or 2.) Linux. So basically it from me double
clicking on !Linux it will go staright into the 'Uncompressing Linux' screen.

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>However, when you start to think about loadable modules, this argument does
>not count (loaders are required to get at the IP addresses for some netcards, 
>since they're stored in the description string, 

It's scarcely hard to teach the driver how to write to a paging register.

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Philip Blundell writes:
> >So that it can access the expansion card ROMs using their loaders to get
> >things like Ether addresses out of them, and shut the cards down properly
> >when rebooting (so that RISC OS and Linux can re-detect them).
> 
> I see.  Does it really need a daemon do do that?  I'd have thought just 
> mapping the cards temporarily at startup and again at shutdown would suffice.
> Not that a daemon really hurts I suppose.

However, when you start to think about loadable modules, this argument does not
count (loaders are required to get at the IP addresses for some netcards, since
they're stored in the description string, which might not be in the first chunk
directory).

> BTW, it occurs to me that even in the presence of kcardd (assuming there's 
> only one of it) you can avoid a cache flush on context switch if the *old* 
> task rather than the new one is a kernel thread.  Or we could just arrange for 
> kcardd not to count as a kernel thread.

kcardd could be given a separate set of page tables, which in that case it would
suffice (since mm->pgd != swapper_pg_dir).
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On Sat, 16 Jan 1999, Philip Blundell wrote:

> >However, when you start to think about loadable modules, this argument does
> >not count (loaders are required to get at the IP addresses for some netcards, 
> >since they're stored in the description string, 
> 
> It's scarcely hard to teach the driver how to write to a paging register.
But surely a less elegant solution than a general podule loader handling
system.

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Philip Blundell writes:
> >However, when you start to think about loadable modules, this argument does
> >not count (loaders are required to get at the IP addresses for some netcards, 
> >since they're stored in the description string, 
> 
> It's scarcely hard to teach the driver how to write to a paging register.

So rather than have a generic expansion card handler, you'd rather duplicate
code left right and centre to be able to read the cards IDs, the chunk
directories and so forth.

I don't think so.  If you don't like it, complain to what's left of Acorn for
creating such a brain dead spec, and the third party companies for implementing
it.  This is what we've got to work with, and it's worked satisfactorily for
the last 5 years.

The kcardd idea is quite clean, and doesn't cost us a lot.  It also allows these
cards which have wrong IDs on them to work (eg, the PowerROMs).  If you're worried
about the code supplied on expansion cards having trojans in them, I don't think
so.  You've got to trust some non-free software at some point.
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>The kcardd idea is quite clean, and doesn't cost us a lot.  It also allows
>these cards which have wrong IDs on them to work (eg, the PowerROMs).  If 
>you're worried about the code supplied on expansion cards having trojans 
>in them, I don't think so.  You've got to trust some non-free software at
>some point.

I think you're the only one who's mentioned trustworthyness of ROMs.  I don't 
have a problem with that.  My gripe about kecardd is just that it seems 
somewhat over-engineered and it increases the memory footprint to no purpose 
on 26-bit machines.  Perhaps the solution is to create a cut-down version of 
the podule support for those systems though, then you could remove a lot of 
the #ifdefs in ecard.c.

p.


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Here's a patch.  I guess not many people use it these days. :-)

p.

--- clean/linux/drivers/block/hd.c	Mon Jan 11 18:22:22 1999
+++ linux/drivers/block/hd.c	Sat Jan 16 18:48:33 1999
@@ -803,8 +791,12 @@
 	hd_ioctl,		/* ioctl */
 	NULL,			/* mmap */
 	hd_open,		/* open */
+	NULL,			/* flush */
 	hd_release,		/* release */
-	block_fsync		/* fsync */
+	block_fsync,		/* fsync */
+	NULL,			/* fasync */
+	NULL,			/* check_media_change */
+	NULL			/* revalidate */
 };
 
 __initfunc(int hd_init(void))


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>> +	NULL,			/* fasync */
>> +	NULL,			/* check_media_change */
>> +	NULL			/* revalidate */
>>  };
>
>Do you really need these? I thought GCC always packed out empty structure
>entries like that automatically...

Yeah.  I put them in because hd.c actually does have a revalidate routine - it 
just turns out to be arranged slightly wrong at the moment.

And, duh, I meant to send that to linux-kernel not linux-arm.  For the ARM 
there is another problem if you've applied Russell's patch; you need something
like this too.

@@ -80,6 +73,8 @@
 static int reset;
 static int hd_error;
 
+#define SUBSECTOR(block) (CURRENT->current_nr_sectors > 0)
+
 /*
  *  This struct defines the HD's and their types.
  */

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>driver. I also had a similar total lockup the other day under high CPU
>and ethernet load (running three concurrent xv's and displaying them on a
>different machine), but couldn't get it to reproduce.

Nasty.  I'll try this on Monday and see if I can figure out what's going on.  
I've also got a crashme recipe somewhere which, last time I tried, would 
reliably stiff the machine.

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Philip Blundell writes:
> My gripe about kecardd is just that it seems somewhat over-engineered and it
> increases the memory footprint to no purpose on 26-bit machines.  Perhaps
> the solution is to create a cut-down version of the podule support for those
> systems though, then you could remove a lot of the #ifdefs in ecard.c.

I'm beginning to wonder if you really have looked at the code at this point.
You mention the #ifdefs, but if you notice what they do, they do do exactly
what you say - produce a cut down ecard.c.

Since kcardd only went in last week, I haven't finished optimising it for
the older machines, and indeed it won't be there for the older machines
once I've finished it.

Anyway, I didn't think that 2.2 was able to run on the old machines with only
4MB any more.
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>I'm beginning to wonder if you really have looked at the code at this point.
>You mention the #ifdefs, but if you notice what they do, they do do exactly
>what you say - produce a cut down ecard.c.

I'm aware of that.

>Anyway, I didn't think that 2.2 was able to run on the old machines with only
>4MB any more.

It's not precisely luxurious but it runs.  It helps if you teach the console 
driver to grab less than 480k of memory when you're in a smaller mode.  I'm 
still reasonably optimistic of getting it to fly on a 2MB machine, though 1MB 
may be stretching things a little far.

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>Even 2.0 has problems - a dynamically linked swapon wouldn't run on the
>4MB A5000 I tried it on as it was unable to mmap libc.  I haven't been
>able to experiment further since it's in the UK and I'm not.

Yeah.  You need to hack the kernel to get it to turn swap on before launching 
init.  I guess a swap=.. command line option is what's needed.

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This reliably totally locks my NetWinder, running linux-2.2.0-pre6 with
Phil's latest patch (plus a slight fix to ioremap to make it work
again), compiled with egcs-1.1.1 with Phil's 19990110 patch.

Telnet to the box <It doesn't freeze if you do it from the console, unless
you telnet somewhere else and back in a loop>.
Start playing an MP3 with Xaudio.
Press Ctrl-Z.

No messages of any kind, just a total complete lockup (sysrq doesn't
respond, CPU usage LED freezes in the state it was in when suspend was
pressed). I'm using the 10/100 ethernet port at 10 Mb with the Tulip
driver. I also had a similar total lockup the other day under high CPU
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On Sun, 17 Jan 1999, Philip Blundell wrote:
> +	NULL,			/* fasync */
> +	NULL,			/* check_media_change */
> +	NULL			/* revalidate */
>  };

Do you really need these? I thought GCC always packed out empty structure
entries like that automatically...

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On Sun, Jan 17, 1999 at 12:13:09PM +0000, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote:
> Anyway, I didn't think that 2.2 was able to run on the old machines with only
> 4MB any more.

Even 2.0 has problems - a dynamically linked swapon wouldn't run on the
4MB A5000 I tried it on as it was unable to mmap libc.  I haven't been
able to experiment further since it's in the UK and I'm not.

-- 
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Alex Holden writes:
> Telnet to the box <It doesn't freeze if you do it from the console, unless
> you telnet somewhere else and back in a loop>.
> Start playing an MP3 with Xaudio.
> Press Ctrl-Z.

Where can I find Xaudio?  I can't find it on ftp.netwinder.org.
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Hi,

I've just encountered a problem with gnome-core and limits.h:

While building gnome-core/panel/session.c, GCC complains that INT_MAX is not
defined.  Looking at the problem, it appears that GCC's action of #include_next
is wrong.

If you call GCC with:

	gcc -I/usr/include -I. -I/usr/include ... -c file.c

your <...> search path contains:

	/usr/include
	.
	/usr/include
	/usr/local/include
	/usr/arm-linuxelf/include
	/usr/lib/gcc-lib/arm-linuxelf/2.8.1/include
	/usr/include

And file.c #include's <limits.h>, then you end up with the following problem:

/usr/include/limits.h is included, which defines
	_LIBC_LIMITS_H_
to protect against multiple inclusions.

/usr/include/limits.h includes various other header files from /usr/include/bits,
and then #include_next's <limits.h>

Since the current file was included from the first /usr/include entry in the
search path, it then tries ./limits.h (which does not exist), and then
/usr/include/limtis.h, which does exist.  It starts pre-processing this file
and encounters #ifndef _LIBC_LIMITS_H_, which prevents any of limits.h being
included.

This means that the intended /usr/lib/gcc-lib/arm-linuxelf/2.8.1/include/limits.h
which contains the definition of INT_MAX for the architecture never gets included.

Surely GCC ought to either prevent duplications of header file paths, or remember
which ones have already been included and not re-include them on #include_next,
but carry on searching for another header file?

Anyway, the fix I applied was to simply comment out the #ifndef _LIBC_LIMITS_H_
since all the other header files are protected in a similar manner anyway,
and we're using GCC >2.0.0.

This is not the first time I've encountered this problem with various versions
of GCC, and have in the past fixed the flags passed to GCC.  However, with the
way the gnome autoconf stuff works, it'll be very messy to fix it in every case
without breaking someone's environment.  IMHO, it's a gcc problem, since GCC's
just being plain daft.
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Russell King wrote:

>This is not the first time I've encountered this problem with various versions
>of GCC, and have in the past fixed the flags passed to GCC.  However, with the
>way the gnome autoconf stuff works, it'll be very messy to fix it in
>every case without breaking someone's environment.  IMHO, it's a gcc 
>problem, since GCC's just being plain daft.

The compiler is just doing what you tell it.  If you say
`-I/usr/include' twice, it will search that directory twice.  It's not
GCC's job to second guess the user.

The problem should go away if you install a newer glibc.  If not then
let me know and I'll look into it.

p.
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I've successfully installed and set up the current Risc PC ARMLinux
distribution, and most things seem to be working happily.  There are a few
little X related things that seem to be broken, which I don't know how to
fix:

Firstly, the keymaps in X seem to be wrong if X is started on booting via
settings in inittab.  In particular, both delete and backspace act as
Ctrl-C, which makes command editing a little tricky.  Quite a few symbols
are in the wrong place, and I can't get an @ up at all.  This happens
irrespective of which user is doing it, although all the user's config
files would have come from the same source.  Running X by booting as
multiuser and running startx has the (AFAICT) correct keymaps - editing is
possible.  I suspect it needs a config change somewhere - can anyone say
where, and to what? 

Also, AFAIK unrelated, is a problem where some windows which have text
input icons refuse to take the input focus, so it's impossible to type to
them.  I first noticed this with pcb, and thought it was a problem with
that, but it also appears in the standard xfm, in the File Manager
Folder->Go To dialogue.  Under either fvwm or fvwm2 they steadfastly
refuse to be selected, keeping a grey title bar even clicking the mouse
all over them, and so this box can't be used. Icon clicks are accepted,
and only a few specific windows (all dialogue IIRC) seem to suffer from
this.

On a related note, is there any way (as root of course) of killing X when
it has been booted into?  Killing the window manager or miscellaneous X
tasks seem to just cause it to go back to the X login screen, as if I'd
logged out.

Finally, are there any graphical WWW browsers for ARMLinux about?  I know
the problems with Netscape, but has anyone compiled Arena or Mosaic for
a.out?  Failing that, has anyone compiled Lesstif?  I've tried and failed 
- it doesn't like arm610-unknown-linuxaout as a machine type - has anyone
got ARMLinux-aware config.guess and config.set files?.  I would poke
around the source RPMs, but I need to figure out how to use rpm first.  Is
the graphical package management tool so tantalisingly put on
control-panel actually available for ARMLinux?

Thanks,
Theo

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Gonville & Caius College            theomarkettos@letterbox.com
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On Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:29:43 +0000 (GMT)
John Lindley <john@BITS.bris.ac.uk> wrote:

> On Thu, 14 Jan 1999, Hiroshi Ishii wrote:
> 
> {Snip}
> 
> > And, Where is it's source?
> 
> I think i got the source from www.x.org, or rather it's mirror at
> suniste.doc.ic.ac.uk

 Thanks. But I want to get source changing for armlinux.
May be someone (RMK?) must be hacked it. 
Because I want to change window-size and color depth.

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Where can I find a patch for gdb, to be able to debug arm-linuxelf 
progs ?

christophe
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Philip Blundell writes:
> Russell King wrote:
> >This is not the first time I've encountered this problem with various versions
> >of GCC, and have in the past fixed the flags passed to GCC.  However, with the
> >way the gnome autoconf stuff works, it'll be very messy to fix it in
> >every case without breaking someone's environment.  IMHO, it's a gcc 
> >problem, since GCC's just being plain daft.
> 
> The compiler is just doing what you tell it.  If you say
> `-I/usr/include' twice, it will search that directory twice.  It's not
> GCC's job to second guess the user.

Correction - it's doing what dumb autoconf is telling it to do; I played
no part in the options it chose.
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Running a 2.1.131 on a EBSA-285 I recently ran into trouble when I
upgraded the DRAM to a 128 MB DIMM from the default 16 MB one.  I was
crashing on boot constantly when the Tulip driver reported a fatal bus
error (I was using NFS for the root).  Several printk's later, it ends
up that in:
   arch/arm/kernel/hw-ebsa285.c
there is a line:
   *(unsigned long *)0xfe000100 = 0x01fc0000;
which causes the 21285 core logic chip (acts as a memory controller for
the SA-110 and as a PCI-SA110_bus bridge) to only allow access to the
lower 32 MB of DRAM from the PCI bus.  The kernel was assigning buffers
from the top of DRAM for the tulip to use and it would get a master
abort attempting to access them.  For those with EBSA-285's, memory
address 0xfe000100 is the DRAM Base Address Mask Register in the 21285.

  I see two possible fixes for this problem:  

1)  Change the line to set it as high as possible.  The 21285 data sheet
has 256 MB (value = 0x0ffc0000) as the highest value listed.  This would
create a huge window but shold allow most anything.

2)  A more general solution would be to set this value dependant on the
actual memory installed.  This could be done either through a table
lookup or (I believe) bit-twiddling.

If neither fix is done, then I think a warning or documentation should
be included which mentions this problem.  It shouldn't be hard to add
into the boot sequence a 
  if ( (params->u1.s.nr_pages * params->u1.s.page_size) > (32*1024*1024) ) {
        printk("WARNING: The PCI bus will be unable to access the full " \
               "DRAM memory space.  Look in arch/arm/lib/hw-ebsa285.c  " \
               "for details!\n");
  }

Also, I have checked pre-patch 6 with the patch from Russel's site and
this line is unchanged.  

Finally, the bug-report form on the web page,
http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/forms/solution.html
does not let you send the report you've filled out.

-Jon 
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>the first couple of KB. Given the loader does so little, it hardly seems
>worth bothering to run it. You need to nkow the h/w to drive it, and a
>paging or reset register isn't exactly difficult.

Yeah, that's my feeling too. 

>Why bother with loaders, at the expense of thread switch times? On
>NetBSD, I shortcut switching between different kernel threads (eg
>process reaper) although that patch hasn't been committed yet which I
>think is kind-of what Phil suggested.

Basically.  Since a kernel thread (usually) doesn't have any memory mapping in 
the area normally touched by user tasks, we don't have to worry about cache 
issues.  In fact I've now thought of a way to play things that will hopefully 
allow us to handle the case where a user process is fighting a kernel thread 
for the CPU without any cache flush at all, and the clone() case comes out in 
the wash which is an extra bonus. :-)

Essentially what you do is just to remember the last set of pagetables you 
loaded for a non-kernel thread (having nobbled kecardd such that it doesn't 
count as a kernel thread any more).  If it's the same as the one you're about 
to load in, or if the new task is a kernel thread, you can skip the cache and 
TLB drama.

I'll see if I can come up with a patch later.  By the way, before I send the 
CATS board back, do you guys have any benchmark numbers for NetBSD running on 
one of those?  I'd be interested to see how Linux compares.

p.


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If anybody feels like doing some testing, I'd be glad to hear the results (and 
no doubt H.J would too)

p.

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Please try out egcs 1.1.1 19990115/Linux. There are 3 files to test

ftp://ftp.yggdrasil.com/private/hjl/egcs/1.1.1/egcs-1.1.1-19990115-linux.diff.gz
ftp://ftp.yggdrasil.com/private/hjl/egcs/1.1.1/release.egcs-1.1.1
ftp://ftp.yggdrasil.com/private/hjl/egcs/1.1.1/egcs-1.1.1.spec

Please check them out. I'd like to know the results for egcs-1.1.1.spec,
Linux/ARM and Linux/MIPS before I make them public.

Thanks.


H.J.
- ----
This is the Linux/x86/alpha binary release of egcs 1.1.1 19990115/Linux.
egcs is an integrated GNU compiler system. It is derived from gcc with
many enhancements. The current egcs contains C, C++, Object C and f77
compilers plus their runtime libraries. It is highly recommended on
Linux as the default C/C++ compiler system. For details about egcs
and its source code, please consult its web page at

http://egcs.cygnus.com

The egcs 1.1.1 linux/x86 binary release can be found at

ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/devel/gcc
ftp://tsx-11.mit.edu/pub/linux/packages/GCC
ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/GCC

The bzip2 linux/x86 binaries are provided for libc 5 and glibc 2. They
are bzip2-libc5.gz and bzip2-glibc.gz in the same ftp directory.

The file list

1. egcs-1.1.1-glibc.x86.tar.bz2
   In ELF/x86 and generate ELF binaries for glibc 2. gcc, cpp, cc1,
   cc1plus, cc1objc, g77, version dependent header files, libstdc++,
   libg++ and libg2c.a. Object C, protoize and unprotoize are untested.
   To install

	# cd /
	# bzip2 -dc egcs-1.1.1-glibc.x86.tar.bz2 | tar xvvf -

   You need glibc 2.0.7 or above to use it.

2. egcs-1.1.1-alpha.tar.bz2
   In ELF/alpha and generate ELF binaries for glibc 2. gcc, cpp, cc1,
   cc1plus, cc1objc, g77, version dependent header files, libstdc++,
   libg++ and libg2c.a. Object C, protoize and unprotoize are untested.
   To install

	# cd /
	# bzip2 -dc egcs-1.1.1-alpha.tar.bz2 | tar xvvf -

   You need glibc 2.0.7 or above to use it.

3. egcs-1.1.1-libc5.x86.tar.bz2
   In ELF/x86 and generate ELF binaries for libc 5. gcc, cpp, cc1,
   cc1plus, cc1objc, g77, version dependent header files, libstdc++,
   libg++ and libg2c.a. Object C, protoize and unprotoize are untested.
   To install

	# cd /
	# bzip2 -dc egcs-1.1.1-libc5.x86.tar.bz2 | tar xvvf -

   You need libc 5.4.44 or above to use it.

4. egcs-1.1.1-doc.tar.bz2
   Man pages and info files for egcs and libg++. To install

	# cd /
	# bzip2 -dc egcs-1.1.1-doc.tar.bz2 | tar xvvf -

5. egcs-1.1.1-19990115-linux.diff.gz
   A patch file which brings egcs 1.1.1 to egcs 1.1.1 19990115/Linux.

6. egcs-1.1.1.spec
   A RPM spec file. You can use it to build egcs 1.1.1 19990115/Linux
   if you have a good network connection. For example,

	# rpm -ba egcs-1.1.1.spec

   should get source and patch via ftp, then source rpm and binary rpm.

Please fix the file/directory permissions after unpacking the package
if necessary.

Please report any missing/corrupted files to hjl@lucon.org


H.J.
hjl@lucon.org
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>1)  Change the line to set it as high as possible.  The 21285 data sheet
>has 256 MB (value = 0x0ffc0000) as the highest value listed.  This would
>create a huge window but shold allow most anything.

I think that should be fine.  We ought to check the value of PCI_CFN in there 
and so long as it's set, we can pile in and set whatever values we like.  If 
it's clear then we shouldn't muck with any of the BARs at all.  The SDRAM 
window is actually 512MB aligned at the moment.

p.


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Subject: Re: Accessing DRAM on the EBSA-285 from PCI
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Philip Blundell writes:
> >1)  Change the line to set it as high as possible.  The 21285 data sheet
> >has 256 MB (value = 0x0ffc0000) as the highest value listed.  This would
> >create a huge window but shold allow most anything.
> 
> I think that should be fine.  We ought to check the value of PCI_CFN in there 
> and so long as it's set, we can pile in and set whatever values we like.  If 
> it's clear then we shouldn't muck with any of the BARs at all.  The SDRAM 
> window is actually 512MB aligned at the moment.

Correction: it would be better to tell the 21285 how much SDRAM you have so
that you can use it's features to catch out of bounds accesses which could
trample over the kernel.  The SDRAM window is actually at a fixed address
in PCI space and I don't see what 'at the moment' needs to be there. ;)
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Neil A. Carson writes:
> Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote:
> > (Interestingly, I believe that RiscBSD have to write a new loader for
> > each and every card that they support).
> 
> Actually, NetBSD ignores loaders completely, mainly because we hardly
> ever need to access the ROMs on the cards. Even in the case of reading
> an ethernet hardware address, we've not had a problem getting it without
> using the loader as all the cards so far supported have had the info in
> the first couple of KB. Given the loader does so little, it hardly seems
> worth bothering to run it. You need to nkow the h/w to drive it, and a
> paging or reset register isn't exactly difficult.

Let me clarify a point about the expansion card support: Linux will not use
the loader if it doesn't have to.  ie, if it can find all the information it
requires without loading the loader, then the loader will not be used.

However, if it can't find the information it needs in the first chunk
directory, it will use the loader to access the next chunk directory.
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Hi

I have a feeling this has been discussed over and over again, but
I cannot find anything in my archives, so here goes:

How do I cross compile glibc?

My first problem is that I don't know if there should be any special
flags for the configure script. (build=arm-linux is the only I can find)

My compiler is residing in a directory not in the path since I don't
want to mess upp my normal environment. But this is usually not a
problem
(I just call arm-linux-gcc directly), but How do I tell the configure
script what compiler to use, or do I have to set this up by hand by
patching the make files?

The script also complains about the kernel headers beeing too old. They
shouldn't be; I've tried 2.2pre7 and 2.1.132 and the docs tells me to
use
the latest headers. It seem like the with-headers flag doen't work...

/Peter
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I've finally managed to configure the system for cross compiling
of glibc, but now I get wierd errors.

while compiling the file sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/sysctl.c
I get an error saying that __NR__sysctl is undefined.
As far as I call tell it should be defined. (i.e asm/unistd.h
is included).

The error doesn't go away if I explicitly include asm/unistd.h,
but when I copy the relevant parts it seems to work. But I don't
feel good about it!

/Peter
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Hi!
After a long absence from ArmLinux I just tried to compile teTeX0.4.
After some time it failed with not knowing 'dev_t'. Where do I have to
search for it? Which packet is holding it? What elase do I have to look
for?

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>(I just call arm-linux-gcc directly), but How do I tell the configure
>script what compiler to use, or do I have to set this up by hand by
>patching the make files?

$ CC=arm-linux-gcc .../configure ...

>The script also complains about the kernel headers beeing too old. They
>shouldn't be; I've tried 2.2pre7 and 2.1.132 and the docs tells me to
>use the latest headers. It seem like the with-headers flag doen't work...

What exactly are you giving on the command line?  If you put the headers in 
the directory where your target gcc finds them by default you don't need 
--with-headers.

p.



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This patch is now on ftp.netwinder.org.  Content-wise it's mostly the same as 
the previous patch.

I put in a couple of bits and pieces from Linus' 2.2.0-pre8 to get vfork 
running (mostly so I could test the glibc implementation).  This seems OK now 
but it would be nice to have a few more people beating on it.

p.


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While running menuconfig and entering in Filesystems area, I get 
that error

scripts/Menuconfig: MCmenu26: command not found

When compiling the kernel, I get 
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.0pre-arm/arch/arm/lib'
/usr/local/bin/arm-linux-gcc -D__KERNEL__ -
I/usr/src/linux.2.2.0pre-arm/include  -mapcs-32 -mshort-load-bytes -
mcpu=strongarm110 -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2  -pipe -g   -c -o 
io.o io.c
/usr/src/linux.2.2.0pre-arm/include/asm/arch/io.h: In function 
`ioremap':
In file included from /usr/src/linux.2.2.0pre-arm/include/asm/io.h:38,
                 from io.c:1:
/usr/src/linux.2.2.0pre-arm/include/asm/arch/io.h:165: 
`PAGE_MASK' undeclared (first use in this function)
/usr/src/linux.2.2.0pre-arm/include/asm/arch/io.h:165: (Each 
undeclared identifier is reported only once
/usr/src/linux.2.2.0pre-arm/include/asm/arch/io.h:165: for each 
function it appears in.)
make[2]: *** [io.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.0pre-arm/arch/arm/lib'
make[1]: *** [first_rule] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.0pre-arm/arch/arm/lib'
make: *** [_dir_arch/arm/lib] Error 2

When this problem is solved, by adding proc-armv/page.h,
I get that error, and dont know how to solve it

make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.0pre-arm/arch/arm/lib'
/usr/local/bin/arm-linux-gcc -D__KERNEL__ -
I/usr/src/linux.2.2.0pre-arm/include  -mapcs-32 -mshort-load-bytes -
mcpu=strongarm110 -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2  -pipe -g   -c -o 
io.o io.c
/usr/src/linux.2.2.0pre-arm/include/asm/arch/io.h: In function 
`ioremap':
In file included from /usr/src/linux.2.2.0pre-arm/include/asm/io.h:38,
                 from io.c:1:
/usr/src/linux.2.2.0pre-arm/include/asm/arch/io.h:165: 
`PAGE_MASK' undeclared (first use in this function)
/usr/src/linux.2.2.0pre-arm/include/asm/arch/io.h:165: (Each 
undeclared identifier is reported only once
/usr/src/linux.2.2.0pre-arm/include/asm/arch/io.h:165: for each 
function it appears in.)
make[2]: *** [io.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.0pre-arm/arch/arm/lib'
make[1]: *** [first_rule] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.0pre-arm/arch/arm/lib'
make: *** [_dir_arch/arm/lib] Error 2

Using binutils-2.9.1.0.15-diff-981027 and
egcs-1.1b-diff-981004

christophe
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I'm having some problems building an ARM development environment and I was
wondering if someone could help me. I'm following the steps listed by Philip
Blundell at http://www.tazenda.demon.co.uk/phil/arm-tools.html
<http://www.tazenda.demon.co.uk/phil/arm-tools.html> .

The installation of  "Binutils" (v2.9.1.0.19a - from
ftp://tsx-11.mit.edu/pub/linux/packages/GCC/) went smoothly. However, the
installation of EGCS 1.1.1 (from
ftp://egcs.cygnus.com/pub/egcs/releases/egcs-1.1.1/
<ftp://egcs.cygnus.com/pub/egcs/releases/egcs-1.1.1/> ) fails as follows:

    #./configure -target=arm-linux -prefix=/usr
    Configuring for an i586-pc-linux-gnu-host host
    Created "Makefile" in home/chagas/egcs/egcs.1.1.1 using "mt-frag"
    ./config.status is unchanged
    Configuration arm-unknown-linux-gnu not supported
    Configure in /home/chagas/egcs/egcs.1.1.1/gnu/gcc failed, exiting.
    #

Am I missing something?

I would also like to know if the resulting development environment will
allow me to build the Brutus(SA1100) version of ARM-Linux (downloaded from
http://www.research.digital.com/wrl/itsy/linux/linux-brutus.html
<http://www.research.digital.com/wrl/itsy/linux/linux-brutus.html> ).

Thanks,

Jason
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>installation of EGCS 1.1.1 (from
>ftp://egcs.cygnus.com/pub/egcs/releases/egcs-1.1.1/
><ftp://egcs.cygnus.com/pub/egcs/releases/egcs-1.1.1/> ) fails as follows:
>
>Am I missing something?

Yes.  You have to apply a patch to EGCS.  Get it from ftp.netwinder.org:/users/
p/philb.

>I would also like to know if the resulting development environment will
>allow me to build the Brutus(SA1100) version of ARM-Linux (downloaded from
>http://www.research.digital.com/wrl/itsy/linux/linux-brutus.html
><http://www.research.digital.com/wrl/itsy/linux/linux-brutus.html> ).

For 2.0 kernels you may be better off with an a.out compiler.

p.


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I was trying to rebuild the armulator from the university edition of ARM. It 
basically contains

- object files, where they do not want to give the source
  armdbg.a  armsd.o   clx.a     iarm.a    pisd.o
  
- source code, which can be customized

Since the code is from 1995, the object file form seem to have changed (they 
use gcc to build in the supplied Makefile). The say the kit is for SunOS 
4.1.3, but the binary they provide runs without problems on solaris 2.5/2.6.

Does anybody know, how I can get a working binary with the object files they 
supply?

Rainer.



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>Thanks for your prompt reply. However, I ran into trouble when trying to
>apply the ARM patch. These were the errors returned:
>
>#./egcs-1.1.1-arm-diff-990113

The diff isn't a shell script; you need to feed it into `patch' rather than 
directly executing it.  Try something like:

$ patch -E < egcs-1.1.1-arm-diff-990113

>1)	Do you know of any Linux Kernel version (later than V2.0) that runs
>well with Brutus?

Hugo and Nico are working on a port of 2.2 at the moment.  I don't think it's 
quite as stable as 2.0 yet so I'd recommend you hold off for a little.

>2)	Can I get an ARM-Linux kernel built with the 'a.out' libs run
>applications built with the ELF libs?

Yes.  It makes no difference how the kernel itself was compiled.

p.


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Phil,

Thanks for your prompt reply. However, I ran into trouble when trying to
apply the ARM patch. These were the errors returned:

#./egcs-1.1.1-arm-diff-990113
./egcs-1.1.1-arm-diff-990113: ---: command not found
./egcs-1.1.1-arm-diff-990113: +++: command not found
./egcs-1.1.1-arm-diff-990113: @@: command not found
./egcs-1.1.1-arm-diff-990113: syntax error near unexpected token
'<philb@gnu.org>'
./egcs-1.1.1-arm-diff-990113: ./egcs-1.1.1-arm-diff-990113: line 5:
'+1999-01-07 Philip Blundell <philb@gnu.org>'
#

I tried executing 'egcs-1.1.1-arm-diff-990113' both from the 'egcs-1.1.1'
subdirectory (where the EGCS code is located) and the directory it was
branched from... I got the same errors on both instances. What is the
appropriate method for applying the ARM patch??

Regarding ARM-Linux running on Brutus:

1)	Do you know of any Linux Kernel version (later than V2.0) that runs
well with Brutus?
2)	Can I get an ARM-Linux kernel built with the 'a.out' libs run
applications built with the ELF libs?

Thanks,

Jason


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	From:  Philip Blundell [SMTP:pb@nexus.co.uk]
	Sent:  Friday, January 22, 1999 3:37 AM
	To:  Chagas, Jason
	Cc:  'linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu'
	Subject:  Re: Problems building an ARM development environment 

	>installation of EGCS 1.1.1 (from
	>ftp://egcs.cygnus.com/pub/egcs/releases/egcs-1.1.1/
	><ftp://egcs.cygnus.com/pub/egcs/releases/egcs-1.1.1/> ) fails as
follows:
	>
	>Am I missing something?

	Yes.  You have to apply a patch to EGCS.  Get it from
ftp.netwinder.org:/users/
	p/philb.

	>I would also like to know if the resulting development environment
will
	>allow me to build the Brutus(SA1100) version of ARM-Linux
(downloaded from
	>http://www.research.digital.com/wrl/itsy/linux/linux-brutus.html
	><http://www.research.digital.com/wrl/itsy/linux/linux-brutus.html>
).

	For 2.0 kernels you may be better off with an a.out compiler.

	p.


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Use the patch program.  In the egcs-1.1.1 directory, use
patch -p1 < filename

-- 
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better ways to earn a living than to prevent other people from making use of
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On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 07:15:53AM -0800, Chagas, Jason wrote:
> Phil,
> 
> Thanks for your prompt reply. However, I ran into trouble when trying to
> apply the ARM patch. These were the errors returned:
> 
> #./egcs-1.1.1-arm-diff-990113
> ./egcs-1.1.1-arm-diff-990113: ---: command not found
> ./egcs-1.1.1-arm-diff-990113: +++: command not found
> ./egcs-1.1.1-arm-diff-990113: @@: command not found
> ./egcs-1.1.1-arm-diff-990113: syntax error near unexpected token
> '<philb@gnu.org>'
> ./egcs-1.1.1-arm-diff-990113: ./egcs-1.1.1-arm-diff-990113: line 5:
> '+1999-01-07 Philip Blundell <philb@gnu.org>'
> #
> 
> I tried executing 'egcs-1.1.1-arm-diff-990113' both from the 'egcs-1.1.1'
> subdirectory (where the EGCS code is located) and the directory it was
> branched from... I got the same errors on both instances. What is the
> appropriate method for applying the ARM patch??
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Mathew,

I was able to run the patch (#patch -p1 < egcs-1.1.1-arm-diff-990113) and
'configure' (./configure --target=arm-linux -prefix=/usr) successfully.
However, 'make' failed with the following error messages:

In file included from ./objc/hash.c:31:
objc/runtime.h:31: stdio.h: No such file or directory
objc/runtime.h:31: ctype.h: No such file or directory
In file included from objc/runtime.h:38,
                 from ./objc/hash.c:31:
include/objc/objc-api.h:33 stdio.h: No such file or directory
make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/chagas/egcs/egcs-1.1.1/gcc'
make: *** [all-gcc] Error 2
#

Has anyone experienced this problem and/or knows how to fix it?


Thanks,

Jason

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	Subject:  Re: Problems building an ARM development environment


	Use the patch program.  In the egcs-1.1.1 directory, use
	patch -p1 < filename

	-- 
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@bofh.ai>
	"I decry the current tendency to seek patents on algorithms.  There
are
	better ways to earn a living than to prevent other people from
making use of
	one's contributions to computer science."  -- Donald E. Knuth, TAoCP
vol 3

	On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 07:15:53AM -0800, Chagas, Jason wrote:
	> Phil,
	> 
	> Thanks for your prompt reply. However, I ran into trouble when
trying to
	> apply the ARM patch. These were the errors returned:
	> 
	> #./egcs-1.1.1-arm-diff-990113
	> ./egcs-1.1.1-arm-diff-990113: ---: command not found
	> ./egcs-1.1.1-arm-diff-990113: +++: command not found
	> ./egcs-1.1.1-arm-diff-990113: @@: command not found
	> ./egcs-1.1.1-arm-diff-990113: syntax error near unexpected token
	> '<philb@gnu.org>'
	> ./egcs-1.1.1-arm-diff-990113: ./egcs-1.1.1-arm-diff-990113: line
5:
	> '+1999-01-07 Philip Blundell <philb@gnu.org>'
	> #
	> 
	> I tried executing 'egcs-1.1.1-arm-diff-990113' both from the
'egcs-1.1.1'
	> subdirectory (where the EGCS code is located) and the directory it
was
	> branched from... I got the same errors on both instances. What is
the
	> appropriate method for applying the ARM patch??

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On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 10:27:49AM -0800, Chagas, Jason wrote:
> Mathew,
> 
> I was able to run the patch (#patch -p1 < egcs-1.1.1-arm-diff-990113) and
> 'configure' (./configure --target=arm-linux -prefix=/usr) successfully.
> However, 'make' failed with the following error messages:
> 
> In file included from ./objc/hash.c:31:
> objc/runtime.h:31: stdio.h: No such file or directory
> objc/runtime.h:31: ctype.h: No such file or directory
> In file included from objc/runtime.h:38,
>                  from ./objc/hash.c:31:
> include/objc/objc-api.h:33 stdio.h: No such file or directory
> make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/chagas/egcs/egcs-1.1.1/gcc'
> make: *** [all-gcc] Error 2
> #
> 
> Has anyone experienced this problem and/or knows how to fix it?

You're building the Objective C compiler; this will almost certainly not
work.  According to INSTALL/BUILD, you should be typing `make cross'
which will build only the C and C++ compilers.

-- 
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"I decry the current tendency to seek patents on algorithms.  There are
better ways to earn a living than to prevent other people from making use of
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Matt,

Thanks again for your prompt response. 

The build process now failed at a different spot. After reading the
instructions posted by Phil Blundell (at
http://www.tazenda.demon.co.uk/phil/arm-tools.html) I tried  running 'make
LANGUAGES="c" ' in the 'gcc' subdirectory (~/egcs-1.1.1/gcc). This is was
the error returned:

_udivsi3
_divsi3
_umodsi3
_modsi3
_dvmd_lnx
libgcc1.S:430: asm/unistd.h: No such file or directory
make: *** [libgcee1-arm.a] Error 1
#

If I run 'make cross' from the 'egcs-1.1.1' directory I get the same error.

Do you know how I can fix it?

Thanks,

Jason

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	On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 10:27:49AM -0800, Chagas, Jason wrote:
	> Mathew,
	> 
	> I was able to run the patch (#patch -p1 <
egcs-1.1.1-arm-diff-990113) and
	> 'configure' (./configure --target=arm-linux -prefix=/usr)
successfully.
	> However, 'make' failed with the following error messages:
	> 
	> In file included from ./objc/hash.c:31:
	> objc/runtime.h:31: stdio.h: No such file or directory
	> objc/runtime.h:31: ctype.h: No such file or directory
	> In file included from objc/runtime.h:38,
	>                  from ./objc/hash.c:31:
	> include/objc/objc-api.h:33 stdio.h: No such file or directory
	> make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/chagas/egcs/egcs-1.1.1/gcc'
	> make: *** [all-gcc] Error 2
	> #
	> 
	> Has anyone experienced this problem and/or knows how to fix it?

	You're building the Objective C compiler; this will almost certainly
not
	work.  According to INSTALL/BUILD, you should be typing `make cross'
	which will build only the C and C++ compilers.

	-- 
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@bofh.ai>
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are
	better ways to earn a living than to prevent other people from
making use of
	one's contributions to computer science."  -- Donald E. Knuth, TAoCP
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[ Posted to linux-7110 and linux-arm ]

At the moment, I'm playing around with a few programs from
ftp://ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/armlinux/RedHat/RPMS/ on my Psion
(CL-PS7110 CPU, with an ARM710a core) and I got "Illegal instruction" a
few times, e.g. from dip and from rz. Unfortunately, the kernel (2.1.125)
is silent about what instruction that may have been.

Any ideas of what this may be ? My suspicion is either the 16 bit
transfer instructions that other ARM CPUs seem to have, or some
floating-point operations. Or maybe it's just the rather limited
environment in which I'm running things that causes programs to try
stupid things ...

If it's the 16 bit transfers, we'll probably have to emulate them if they
appear in common ARM code :-(  (I know that there's an FPU emulator in
more recent kernels.)

- Werner

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Subject: Re: Illegal instruction on CL-PS7110 (ARM710a)
To: almesber@lrc.di.epfl.ch (Werner Almesberger)
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Werner Almesberger writes:
> At the moment, I'm playing around with a few programs from
> ftp://ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/armlinux/RedHat/RPMS/ on my Psion
> (CL-PS7110 CPU, with an ARM710a core) and I got "Illegal instruction" a
> few times, e.g. from dip and from rz.

One of the good things about those packages on ftp.arm.linux.org.uk is
that they are all compiled for ARM2 chips, which means that the code
should run on all ARM-based chips without any problems.

> Unfortunately, the kernel (2.1.125) is silent about what instruction
> that may have been.

It sounds like your missing the floating point emulation.  There are two
different emulators around at the moment - the Acorn FPE (which can be
found in ftp://ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/armlinux/fpemulator), or the
Netwinder FPE.  

I would recommend you getting the Acorn FPE and an up to date kernel
source.  You should then find that 'insmod' (not the version in
ftp.arm.linux.org.uk, but an ELF version) should be able to load the
fpemulator.  You will have to supply insmod the '-f' flag though.
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On Sat, 23 Jan 1999, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote:
> I would recommend you getting the Acorn FPE and an up to date kernel
> source.  You should then find that 'insmod' (not the version in
> ftp.arm.linux.org.uk, but an ELF version) should be able to load the
> fpemulator.  You will have to supply insmod the '-f' flag though.

Aww, the NWFPE isn't that bad (I've been using it for weeks), and it'll
never get cleaned up if nobody uses it. The big advantage of course is
that the cleaner license on it means that you can compile it into the
kernel rather than having to load it as a module.

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Hi all,

With this mail, I welcome linux-7110 to my kernel release mailings.

We seem to be getting many mailing lists for ARM Linux-ish stuff.  I'd
rather not post to all of them, since this will mean that people may be
ending up with duplicates of my release announcements.

If people think that this is a good idea, then I'll see about creating
linux-arm-announce@vger.rutgers.edu.

Anyway, down to business:

2.2.0-final is now up on the FTP site.  Changes since the last patch:

 - Updated to 2.2.0-final from 2.2.0-pre7.

 - Re-work of NetWinder support to merge it with the EBSA-285/CATS.
   NOTE! the Interrupt and DMA numbers have changed for both these
   ports!  Watch out if you've got your own drivers!
   From now on, this will be referred to as HOST FOOTBRIDGE, but
   will be maintaining the 'ebsa285' file extension.

 - Various ARM problems fixed with memory management changes in 2.2.0-pre8

 - defconfig updated for compiling a Host Footbridge kernel (this is the
   configuration I'm using for my NetWinder and EBSA-285 now).

 - removed drivers/acorn/char/Config.in, and put the stuff in a more
   logical place in the configure scripts.

 - head-armv.S will relocate the kernel on NetWinder to 0xc0008000 to
   maintain compatability with EBSA-285.

 - StrongARM CPU 'wait for interrupt' instruction now used.
    [last minute note: this could well break non-StrongARM processors;
     I already have a fix].

 - vfork support added (but then they took it out from the Intel version).
   NOTE! Don't rely on this; I'm leaving it alone until the situation
   settles out, when it could well change.  DO NOT take the use of
   syscall 190 as an allocation.

 - PCI memory is now protected against USER accesses on Host Footbridge.
   (Flash is NOT protected yet; hopefully will be fixed this weekend).

 - init section moved to start of kernel image (means that more code
   in head-armv can be thrown away).

 - timer interrupt stuff re-worked to allow for timer ticks from
   timer selected on boot.

 - old unused asm-arm header files cleaned out.

 - tcltk xconfig 'string' option stuff fixed.

 - forgotten again to update ARM-README.

If all goes well, I'm hoping to get 2.2.0 (the real McCoy) out within the
same 24 hour window from the point when it appears. (subject to availability
of ftp.kernel.org mirrors as usual).
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On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 11:30:38AM -0800, Chagas, Jason wrote:
> Matt,
> 
> Thanks again for your prompt response. 
> 
> The build process now failed at a different spot. After reading the
> instructions posted by Phil Blundell (at
> http://www.tazenda.demon.co.uk/phil/arm-tools.html) I tried  running 'make
> LANGUAGES="c" ' in the 'gcc' subdirectory (~/egcs-1.1.1/gcc). This is was
> the error returned:
> 
> _udivsi3
> _divsi3
> _umodsi3
> _modsi3
> _dvmd_lnx
> libgcc1.S:430: asm/unistd.h: No such file or directory
> make: *** [libgcee1-arm.a] Error 1
> #
> 
> If I run 'make cross' from the 'egcs-1.1.1' directory I get the same error.
> 
> Do you know how I can fix it?

You need to tell it where the kernel headers are - I forget what the
directive for this is.

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Subject: Re: Illegal instruction on CL-PS7110 (ARM710a)
To: linux@arm.linux.org.uk (Russell King - ARM Linux Admin)
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Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote:
> One of the good things about those packages on ftp.arm.linux.org.uk is
> that they are all compiled for ARM2 chips, which means that the code
> should run on all ARM-based chips without any problems.

Excellent !

> I would recommend you getting the Acorn FPE and an up to date kernel
> source.  You should then find that 'insmod' (not the version in
> ftp.arm.linux.org.uk, but an ELF version) should be able to load the
> fpemulator.  You will have to supply insmod the '-f' flag though.

Is the Acorn FPE also supposed to work with pre-2.2 kernels or should I
rather try 2.1.132 ? Also, where can I find a suitable insmod binary ?
(Our cross-development environment so far doesn't include (g)libc, so
building user-space tools is somewhat messy.)

Thanks,
- Werner

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Werner Almesberger writes:
> Is the Acorn FPE also supposed to work with pre-2.2 kernels or should I
> rather try 2.1.132 ?

The Acorn FPE works for most 2.1 and all 2.2 kernels.

> Also, where can I find a suitable insmod binary ?

You could try someone with a NetWinder and ample bandwidth...
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>You need to tell it where the kernel headers are - I forget what the
>directive for this is.

Either give the --with-headers option to configure, or just put the 
appropriate headers in $PREFIX/arm-linux/include (eg /usr/arm-linux/include/
asm and /usr/arm-linux/include/linux).  I recommend the latter personally.

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> - vfork support added (but then they took it out from the Intel version).
>   NOTE! Don't rely on this; I'm leaving it alone until the situation
>   settles out, when it could well change.  DO NOT take the use of
>   syscall 190 as an allocation.

As I mentioned before, the syscall is not necessary on the ARM.  I think Intel 
and m68k are the only platforms where it's really necessary.  Alpha has it 
because they inherited their syscall numbers from OSF and sys_vfork is 
included.  The only reason we might want it on the ARM is for BSD binaries 
and the code can live in iBCS for that case.

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Ok, so 2.2.0-final-19990123-1 had some problems.  I've put a
2.2.0-final-19990123-2 on the FTP site now, which should fix all
these problems.  (did anyone get around to downloading the first?)

Anyway, changes since 2.2.0-final-19990123-1:

 - entry-armv.S complained about preindexing a ldrt, fixed.

 - NetWinder button driver in & tested.

 - DS1620 config option problem sorted, and defconfig updated.
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For all those waiting for 2.2.0-real, I have some bad news...

2.2.0-real may well be released by Linus this Monday.  However, by job
requires me to be in Preston Monday night, Tuesday and possibly Wednesday.

This means that I will not be around to do anything on ARM Linux (not even
read email) until Thursday evening.  I will try to get 2.2.0-real out on
Thursday, but I can't guarantee anything (depends on my mailboxes).

Such is life. ;(
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The latest 2.2 kernel is missing help for these config options (plus many 
others not ARM related).  Anybody feel like writing any of them?

Include support for Intel EBSA285
CONFIG_ARCH_EBSA285
  No help for CONFIG_ARCH_EBSA285

Include support for Corel NetWinder
CONFIG_ARCH_NETWINDER
  No help for CONFIG_ARCH_NETWINDER

21285 serial port support
CONFIG_SERIAL_21285
  No help for CONFIG_SERIAL_21285

Console on 21285 serial port
CONFIG_SERIAL_21285_CONSOLE
  No help for CONFIG_SERIAL_21285_CONSOLE

DS1620 Thermometer support
CONFIG_DS1620
  No help for CONFIG_DS1620

VIDC 16-bit sound
CONFIG_SOUND_VIDC
  No help for CONFIG_SOUND_VIDC

Netwinder WaveArtist
CONFIG_SOUND_WAVEARTIST
  No help for CONFIG_SOUND_WAVEARTIST

WaveArtist I/O base
CONFIG_WAVEARTIST_BASE
  No help for CONFIG_WAVEARTIST_BASE

WaveArtist IRQ
CONFIG_WAVEARTIST_IRQ
  No help for CONFIG_WAVEARTIST_IRQ

WaveArtist DMA
CONFIG_WAVEARTIST_DMA
  No help for CONFIG_WAVEARTIST_DMA

WaveArtist second DMA
CONFIG_WAVEARTIST_DMA2
  No help for CONFIG_WAVEARTIST_DMA2

Cyber2000 support
CONFIG_FB_CYBER2000
  No help for CONFIG_FB_CYBER2000

Acorn console 8x8 font
CONFIG_FONT_ACORN_8x8
  No help for CONFIG_FONT_ACORN_8x8

MFM harddisk support
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_MFM
  No help for CONFIG_BLK_DEV_MFM

Old Archimedes floppy (1772) support
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_FD1772
  No help for CONFIG_BLK_DEV_FD1772

Autodetect hard drive geometry
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_MFM_AUTODETECT
  No help for CONFIG_BLK_DEV_MFM_AUTODETECT

Acorn partition support
CONFIG_ACORN_PARTITION
  No help for CONFIG_ACORN_PARTITION

Native filecore partition support
CONFIG_ACORN_PARTITION_ADFS
  No help for CONFIG_ACORN_PARTITION_ADFS

ICS partition support
CONFIG_ACORN_PARTITION_ICS
  No help for CONFIG_ACORN_PARTITION_ICS

PowerTec partition support
CONFIG_ACORN_PARTITION_POWERTEC
  No help for CONFIG_ACORN_PARTITION_POWERTEC

RISCiX partition support
CONFIG_ACORN_PARTITION_RISCIX
  No help for CONFIG_ACORN_PARTITION_RISCIX

Here's my contribution for CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO.

Include debugging information in kernel binary
CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO
  Say Y here to include source-level debugging information in the `vmlinux'
  binary image.  This is handy if you want to use gdb or addr2line to
  debug the kernel.  It has no impact on the in-memory footprint of the
  running kernel but it can increase the amount of time and disk space
  needed for compilation.  If in doubt say N.

p.


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Philip Blundell writes:
> The latest 2.2 kernel is missing help for these config options (plus many 
> others not ARM related).  Anybody feel like writing any of them?

Anyone at all want to do these?  It's a nice easy task. ;)

> Include debugging information in kernel binary
> CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO
>   Say Y here to include source-level debugging information in the `vmlinux'
>   binary image.  This is handy if you want to use gdb or addr2line to
>   debug the kernel.  It has no impact on the in-memory footprint of the
>   running kernel but it can increase the amount of time and disk space
>   needed for compilation.  If in doubt say N.

Ok, added.  Maybe I'll do a new patch tonight. (4 patches in one weekend.
Have I gone mad?)
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Philip,

I searched for the headers but I couldn't find them. For instance,
'unistd.h' is no where to be found under '~/egcs-1.1.1' subdirs. I also
tried the "-with-headers" option to configure but that didn't solve the
building problem.

Where can I get these [missing] headings?

Thanks,

Jason


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	Sent:  Saturday, January 23, 1999 11:41 AM
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	>You need to tell it where the kernel headers are - I forget what
the
	>directive for this is.

	Either give the --with-headers option to configure, or just put the 
	appropriate headers in $PREFIX/arm-linux/include (eg
/usr/arm-linux/include/
	asm and /usr/arm-linux/include/linux).  I recommend the latter
personally.

	p.
	

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Scott Smyth wrote:
> 
> I was wondering if there was any leads for the Net+Arm chip
> announced at http://www.netarm.com/ or any plans to do a linux
> port to such a chip.
> 
> thanks,
> Scott

This chip has no MMU so you could not use the linux port 
that is discussed on this list.  Also the company, Net Silicon, 
is reluctant to support any OS other than pSOS from Integrated 
Systems Inc.  Check out their website at:   

    http://www.netsilicon.com

Data sheets
    http://www.netsilicon.com/pub/html/register1.html

FAQ
    http://www.netsilicon.com/pub/html/netarm_f.htm

I had considered that chip for a project but needed an LCD 
controller more than I needed the Ethernet MAC so I went with 
the LH77790 from Sharp.  The 77790 also uses the ARM7 core so a 
port to either should work on both chips.  I have been lurking 
on this list and on the uC-Linux list until I finish my hardware 
design so I could learn as much as possible about porting Linux.  

The uC-Linux project is a port of Linux to processors without 
an MMU, like the chip in the Palm Pilot.  Their is also a 
discusson about developing a GUI for shuch low memory devices, 
which would be great for me.  

The uC-Linux web site:
    http://ryeham.ee.ryerson.ca/uClinux


What were your plans for the Net+Arm chip?


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Ormund Williams wrote:
> 
> I had considered that chip for a project but needed an LCD
> controller more than I needed the Ethernet MAC so I went with
> the LH77790 from Sharp.

You too, huh?

> The 77790 also uses the ARM7 core so a port to either should
> work on both chips.

One reason I've ruled it out, even though it's such a fine chip,
is that the 77790 MMU does not have anywhere near the MMU
abilities I need for Linux.

For example, doing execute-in-place requires either some extremely
tricky run-time relinking, or some sort of mechanism to map
logical addresses to physical addresses.  The granularity of this
should be a page of some size between 256 and 4K bytes, which
implies being able to have an unlimited number of pages.

There are only 8 pages in the LH77790, and I can't see a way to use
this ability to advantage.

I'm hoping its more powerful brother, the LH79402, will have this
ability.

Now, if only there were a chip with an ARM7 core, preferably TDMI,
an LCD controller, and some A/D/A.  4Mbps (like the 79402) would
be nice as well.

Does anyone know of such a chip?

Regards,

Mitch.
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Hi,

 I still have problems about `_fxstat`. 
When compile some program, error message come out.  

...........: undefined reference to `_fxstat'   

I searched this mailing-list. So some people have same
problem. Does anyone solved it?

My environment:
 egcs-2.91.58 19981101 (egcs-1.1.1 pre-release)
 binutils-2.9.1.0.16

Thanks;

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Jason,

>I searched for the headers but I couldn't find them. For instance,
>'unistd.h' is no where to be found under '~/egcs-1.1.1' subdirs. I also
>tried the "-with-headers" option to configure but that didn't solve the
>building problem.

They come with the kernel.  You need to get the latest kernel source tarball 
and unpack it somewhere, then either copy or symlink 
linux/include/{linux,asm-arm} -> $PREFIX/include/{linux,asm}

p.


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> I still have problems about `_fxstat`. 
>When compile some program, error message come out.  
>
>...........: undefined reference to `_fxstat'   

What C library are you using, and is it ELF or a.out?

p.


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>When use a.out compiler, need glibc2 library?

No.  You can use glibc2 if you like (though I don't know how well it works for 
a.out these days) but it's not necessary.

p.



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On Mon, 25 Jan 1999 09:35:52 +0100
Philip Blundell <pb@nexus.co.uk> wrote:

> > I still have problems about `_fxstat`. 
> >When compile some program, error message come out.  
> >
> >...........: undefined reference to `_fxstat'   
> 
> What C library are you using, and is it ELF or a.out?
> 
> p.
> 

Sorry, I use a.out library.


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On Mon, 25 Jan 1999 19:02:07 +0900
Hiroshi Ishii <hiroshi@funai-tky.co.jp> wrote:

> 
> On Mon, 25 Jan 1999 09:35:52 +0100
> Philip Blundell <pb@nexus.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > > I still have problems about `_fxstat`. 
> > >When compile some program, error message come out.  
> > >
> > >...........: undefined reference to `_fxstat'   
> > 
> > What C library are you using, and is it ELF or a.out?
> > 

When use a.out compiler, need glibc2 library?

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On Mon 25 Jan, Mitch Davis wrote:
> Now, if only there were a chip with an ARM7 core, preferably TDMI,
> an LCD controller, and some A/D/A.  4Mbps (like the 79402) would
> be nice as well.

The ARM7100 (cirrus 7110) has the ARM7 core, 8k cache, LCD controller,
and a microwire interface. It's the chip in the Psion 5: I've used it quite
a bit in network situations (practically glueless interface to an ethernet
controller, glueless 8-bit-rom, glueless 72-pin SIMM). It can be run at
5v as the process allows this, although the datasheet doesn't specifically
guarantee this :)   It's locked at 18.432Mhz though.

http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/~altman/camera/

Is my board running linux & a network camera. I did a very quick & dirty
port of linux to it, although others (the Psion Linux team) are doing
a much more ordered one :)

Hugo

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Hi Paul,

>I figured I'd try the 285 related ones but looking at the code (to
>figure out exactly what happens) leaves me puzzled.

Actually Dave Gilbert has already sent me entries for those two.  Thanks 
anyway.  I've appended a list of the ones that I think are still missing in my 
current tree.

>CONFIG_SERIAL_21285 and CONFIG_SERIAL_21285_CONSOLE are mentioned in
>arch/arm/drivers/tty_io.c and the latter also in
>arch/arm/drivers/serial_21285.c~.  Note the tilde.  Is that unfinished 
>work?  Turning on CONFIG_SERIAL_21285 causes a call to rs285_init to
>appear but I see that defined nowhere.

It should be in linux/drivers/char/serial_21285.c I think.  The ~ file is just 
a stray backup; Russell's patches aren't always completely clean in that 
respect.

p.

Include support for Intel EBSA285
CONFIG_ARCH_EBSA285
  No help for CONFIG_ARCH_EBSA285

Include support for Corel NetWinder
CONFIG_ARCH_NETWINDER
  No help for CONFIG_ARCH_NETWINDER

VIDC 16-bit sound
CONFIG_SOUND_VIDC
  No help for CONFIG_SOUND_VIDC

Netwinder WaveArtist
CONFIG_SOUND_WAVEARTIST
  No help for CONFIG_SOUND_WAVEARTIST

WaveArtist I/O base
CONFIG_WAVEARTIST_BASE
  No help for CONFIG_WAVEARTIST_BASE

WaveArtist IRQ
CONFIG_WAVEARTIST_IRQ
  No help for CONFIG_WAVEARTIST_IRQ

WaveArtist DMA
CONFIG_WAVEARTIST_DMA
  No help for CONFIG_WAVEARTIST_DMA

WaveArtist second DMA
CONFIG_WAVEARTIST_DMA2
  No help for CONFIG_WAVEARTIST_DMA2

Cyber2000 support
CONFIG_FB_CYBER2000
  No help for CONFIG_FB_CYBER2000

Acorn console 8x8 font
CONFIG_FONT_ACORN_8x8
  No help for CONFIG_FONT_ACORN_8x8

Acorn partition support
CONFIG_ACORN_PARTITION
  No help for CONFIG_ACORN_PARTITION

Native filecore partition support
CONFIG_ACORN_PARTITION_ADFS
  No help for CONFIG_ACORN_PARTITION_ADFS

ICS partition support
CONFIG_ACORN_PARTITION_ICS
  No help for CONFIG_ACORN_PARTITION_ICS

PowerTec partition support
CONFIG_ACORN_PARTITION_POWERTEC
  No help for CONFIG_ACORN_PARTITION_POWERTEC

RISCiX partition support
CONFIG_ACORN_PARTITION_RISCIX
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Hi,

This patch is now on ftp.netwinder.org as usual.  It's against the 990123-3 
patch on ftp.arm.linux.org.uk.

There are some changes to the 21285 irq handling that aren't completely clean 
yet.  I put these in to get the ISA irqs on the CATS going again though not 
all the changes are actually necessary.  Aside from that it's mostly just the 
usual stuff.

The CHANGES file isn't quite up to date this time (I forgot).  Duh.

p.


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>>>>> "Philip" == Philip Blundell <philb@gnu.org> writes:

 Philip> The latest 2.2 kernel is missing help for these config
 Philip> options (plus many others not ARM related).  Anybody feel
 Philip> like writing any of them?

I figured I'd try the 285 related ones but looking at the code (to
figure out exactly what happens) leaves me puzzled.

CONFIG_SERIAL_21285 and CONFIG_SERIAL_21285_CONSOLE are mentioned in
arch/arm/drivers/tty_io.c and the latter also in
arch/arm/drivers/serial_21285.c~.  Note the tilde.  Is that unfinished 
work?  Turning on CONFIG_SERIAL_21285 causes a call to rs285_init to
appear but I see that defined nowhere.

	paul
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Who, where, what initializes the region of memory referenced by
PARAMS_BASE.

In arch/arm/kernel/setup.c we have:
	static struct params_struct *params = (struct params_struct *)PARAMS_BASE;

And for ebsa285 (my target platform platform) PARAMS_BASE is defined in
linux/include/asm-arm/arch-ebas285.h/hardware.h as
	#define PARAMS_OFFSET	0x100
	#define PARAMS_BASE 	(PAGE_OFFSET + PARAMS_OFFSET)

Why should I care ?
Because, I'm attempting to boot the ebsa285 from flash using the ebsa's boot
loader.
I get about as far as setup_pagetables() before things go south. 
It appears that my start_mem and  end_end are not initialized correctly.
It also appears that these variables are initialized via the 
params_struct which appears to be uninitialized.

Does the boot loader initialize this region of memory ?
If so can somebody send me the appropriate initial values ?


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Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote:
> The Acorn FPE works for most 2.1 and all 2.2 kernels.

Great, so with a little luck, I can even stay at 2.1.125 for now.

> You could try someone with a NetWinder and ample bandwidth...

Okay ;-) Is there anybody out there who can compile for me insmod from
modutils-2.1.85 for the ARM7 (-mcpu=arm7) either as a static executable
or linked to libc4 ?

Thanks,
- Werner

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>Who, where, what initializes the region of memory referenced by
>PARAMS_BASE.

The bootloader is expected to do it.  If you don't have a bootloader or it 
doesn't understand the Linux params system, you need to tell setup.c not to
use the params structure.

>It appears that my start_mem and  end_end are not initialized correctly.
>It also appears that these variables are initialized via the 
>params_struct which appears to be uninitialized.

That sounds very likely.

>If so can somebody send me the appropriate initial values ?

You should be able to guess them for yourself.  The memory size is the most 
important one.

p.


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Hi!
How do I change a screen mode under ArmLinux? I configured to boot in
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Having just finished picking up the pieces after the IRQ renumbering 
occasioned by merging the EBSA-285 and NetWinder code, I'd like to propose 
that we do it all over again. :-)

Life for a lot of code would be easier if the 16 ISA irqs (on machines where 
they exist) were in the traditional 0..15 range rather than the 16..24 slot 
they currently occupy.  Network drivers for instance often calculate their 
IRQ numbering based on jumper settings or the contents of an EEPROM.

I think Pat may have brought this up once before and maybe even implemented it 
in the NetWinder line of kernels (I only have a very old 2.0.31 at the moment) 
but it never seemed to get taken up in the 2.1 series.

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>It seems to have some necessary changes in it which haven't made it into
>the official modutils to support ARM-elf. At least, the vanilla 2.1.121

Pat's modutils supports PLT relocs.  There might be some other changes as 
well; I keep meaning to look into this (started to do so again this afternoon 
in fact) but haven't had time to do much yet.

p.


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On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Werner Almesberger wrote:
> Okay ;-) Is there anybody out there who can compile for me insmod from
> modutils-2.1.85 for the ARM7 (-mcpu=arm7) either as a static executable
> or linked to libc4 ?

The latest source I managed to get to work was that in:
ftp://ftp.netwinder.org/users/p/patb/modutils-2.1.107.tar.gz

It seems to have some necessary changes in it which haven't made it into
the official modutils to support ARM-elf. At least, the vanilla 2.1.121
compiled but didn't work. I don't know about 2.1.85- is there any
particular reason you wanted that version?

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Cc: almesber@lrc.di.epfl.ch, linux-7110@redhat.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu
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Alex Holden wrote:
> The latest source I managed to get to work was that in:
> ftp://ftp.netwinder.org/users/p/patb/modutils-2.1.107.tar.gz

Excellent, I'll try that one tonight.

> It seems to have some necessary changes in it which haven't made it into
> the official modutils to support ARM-elf. At least, the vanilla 2.1.121
> compiled but didn't work. I don't know about 2.1.85- is there any
> particular reason you wanted that version?

Err yes, it appeared last when I did a "dir" in the FTP directory and I
didn't bother to scroll up ... never underestimate human stupidity :-(

Thanks,
- Werner

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>My belief here is that there is too much hard coding of magic numbers in the
>Linux kernel, and this is something that as the kernel starts running on more
>and more architectures, it ought to be got away from.

Do you want to modify all the ISA drivers?  Like it or not this assumption 
exists in a lot of places.  For new code yes it's clearly wrong to hardwire 
IRQ numbers based on a specific architecture, but you can make quite a strong 
case for an ISA bus having to have specific IRQ numbering in much the same way 
that we arrange for the ISA I/O ports to map to the 0...0xfff region.  (ISA 
shared memory is obviously another can of worms entirely, but in fact it ought 
to pretty much come out in the wash so long as the ioremap fudge factor of 
0xe0000000 stays.)

The IRQ numbers are currently completely arbitrary and I don't see any 
disadvantage to rearranging them like this.  The fact that it will cause some 
machines to have an IRQ "hole" at 0..15 is scarcely a big deal, and you 
could always put something else there on such architectures.

p.


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Philip Blundell writes:
> Having just finished picking up the pieces after the IRQ renumbering 
> occasioned by merging the EBSA-285 and NetWinder code, I'd like to propose 
> that we do it all over again. :-)

I propose not to do it all over again.  It's silly to have IRQs 0 - 15 unused
on machines which don't have ISA interrupts.

> Life for a lot of code would be easier if the 16 ISA irqs (on machines where 
> they exist) were in the traditional 0..15 range rather than the 16..24 slot 
> they currently occupy.  Network drivers for instance often calculate their 
> IRQ numbering based on jumper settings or the contents of an EEPROM.
> 
> I think Pat may have brought this up once before and maybe even implemented it 
> in the NetWinder line of kernels (I only have a very old 2.0.31 at the moment) 
> but it never seemed to get taken up in the 2.1 series.

I'm not aware of Pat actually implementing it, since it seems that it's not
required.

My belief here is that there is too much hard coding of magic numbers in the
Linux kernel, and this is something that as the kernel starts running on more
and more architectures, it ought to be got away from.

Not every architecture is a PC.
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Philip Blundell writes:
> >CONFIG_SERIAL_21285 and CONFIG_SERIAL_21285_CONSOLE are mentioned in
> >arch/arm/drivers/tty_io.c and the latter also in
> >arch/arm/drivers/serial_21285.c~.  Note the tilde.  Is that unfinished 
> >work?  Turning on CONFIG_SERIAL_21285 causes a call to rs285_init to
> >appear but I see that defined nowhere.
> 
> It should be in linux/drivers/char/serial_21285.c I think.  The ~ file is just 
> a stray backup; Russell's patches aren't always completely clean in that 
> respect.

Strange, they're not in my latest tree, but they are in the release tree.
rm -rf can't be working.  I'll just try rm -rf / and see what happens... ;)

I'm sure if I find the time to do 2.2.0 they won't be there.

However, I'm now thinking about splitting the arch/arm/drivers/char stuff
out into one separate patch.  I'm not going to bother from this point on
maintaining this stuff (dispite IMHO it's far superiour to the FB console
in terms of speed).  If someone wants faster speed from their console,
they can look at my modifications to the original Linux console code to
speed it up by around a factor of 2 and do a similar optimisation to the
FB stuff.
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Subject: Re: struct params_struct
To: pb@nexus.co.uk (Philip Blundell)
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Philip Blundell writes:
> >Who, where, what initializes the region of memory referenced by
> >PARAMS_BASE.
> 
> The bootloader is expected to do it.  If you don't have a bootloader or it 
> doesn't understand the Linux params system, you need to tell setup.c not to
> use the params structure.

Which would not be a good idea since then you'd have to have your own
patch that required to be applied to my kernels.

> >It appears that my start_mem and  end_end are not initialized correctly.
> >It also appears that these variables are initialized via the 
> >params_struct which appears to be uninitialized.
> 
> That sounds very likely.

start_mem is set up by the kernel internally.  It does not refer to the start
of memory, but to the start of free memory, typically located directly after
the running kernel.  You therefore only have to worry about end_mem.

You want to set up page_size to be 4096 and nr_pages to be
(your memory size)/4096.  Note, however, that the EBSA285 firmware does *not*
as far as I know (my firmware) detect the memory size and configure the 21285
to match the installed memory.

I do have a boot loader for Linux on the EBSA285 platform, but it's rather
limited at the moment - it supports 3com 3c59x, DEC Tulip (forgotten which
one(s)) and Promise UDMA33 (with UDMA configuration).

I'm still hoping to find some time (between Linux 2.2.0, work, sleep and hitting
Multitech over the head about their modems) to clean up the Promise UDMA driver
such that I can release the source code, but alas, something has always got in
the way over the last month.
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Subject: Re: screen mode switching
To: tom@post.rwth-aachen.de (Thomas Marx)
Date: 	Tue, 26 Jan 1999 20:46:39 +0000 (GMT)
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Thomas Marx writes:
> How do I change a screen mode under ArmLinux? I configured to boot in
> mode 21 but when starting X I want a 1280x1024x32k mode.

You don't.  ARM Linux knows nothing about programming the VIDC timing
registers yet (well, I've got some sample code in there to work out
the values, but it's as yet untested).

On this subject, if anyone knows a working set of VIDC20 register values
for a specific resolution and colour depth, could they please mail them
to me so that I can check that I've got this right in 2.2.0?  Thanks.
(not willing to buy a new monitor).
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Alex Holden wrote:
> The latest source I managed to get to work was that in:
> ftp://ftp.netwinder.org/users/p/patb/modutils-2.1.107.tar.gz

Sigh, didn't work :-(

# /sbin/insmod 
insmod: memory violation at pc=0x02012bc0, lr=0x02012bc4 (bad address=0x0000002c, code 3)

So let's try the NWFPE then ...

- Werner

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>Anyway, there needs to be an incentive to cause new code to change.

But we're not talking about new code.  The ISA stuff, which is all this 
matters for, is legacy by definition.

p.


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Philip Blundell writes:
> The IRQ numbers are currently completely arbitrary and I don't see any 
> disadvantage to rearranging them like this.  The fact that it will cause some 
> machines to have an IRQ "hole" at 0..15 is scarcely a big deal, and you 
> could always put something else there on such architectures.

Except when there is nothing else to put in there.  Anyway, there needs to be
an incentive to cause new code to change.
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Morning all,

Over the last few days I have been compiling a new development system
(it really has taken that long on an ARM7 ;)) - latest binutils compiles
no problems, egcs-1.1.1 likewise.

However, in the throes of glibc compilation make exits with an error:
../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/sysctl.c:42 - __NR__sysctl undeclared (first
use of this fn)

..and in the bleary-eyed state at which I looked at it,  I can't see a
way around it.  Has anyone got any suggestions for what I might be doing
wrong?

TIA,

Matt
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>However, in the throes of glibc compilation make exits with an error:
>../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/sysctl.c:42 - __NR__sysctl undeclared (first
>use of this fn)
>
>..and in the bleary-eyed state at which I looked at it,  I can't see a
>way around it.  Has anyone got any suggestions for what I might be doing
>wrong?

Your kernel is too old.  Either upgrade it or just add a definition of 
__NR__sysctl to <asm/unistd.h>.  It should be number 149.

p.


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Hi there,

Anyone know the status of Java for ARM (& StrongARM) Linux ?

Thanks,

Zsolt

Zsolt Kiraly
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Philip Blundell writes:
> pte_t *get_pte_kernel_slow(pmd_t *pmd, unsigned long offset)
> {
> 	pte_t *pte;
> 
> 	pte = (pte_t *) get_small_page(GFP_KERNEL);
> 	if (pmd_none(*pmd)) {
> 		if (pte) {
> 			memzero(pte, PTRS_PER_PTE * BYTES_PER_PTR);
> 			set_pmd(pmd, mk_kernel_pmd(pte));
> 			return pte + offset;
> 		}
> 		set_pmd(pmd, mk_kernel_pmd(BAD_PAGETABLE));
> 		return NULL;
> 	}
> 	free_small_page((unsigned long) pte);
> 	if (pmd_bad(*pmd)) {
> 		__bad_pmd_kernel(pmd);
> 		return NULL;
> 	}
> 	return (pte_t *) pmd_page(*pmd) + offset;
> }
> 
> Can it happen that get_small_page() returns NULL owing to a memory shortage, 
> but we sleep anyway and somebody else fills in the pte in the meantime, in 

Yes, this is possible.

> which case we end up passing NULL back to free_small_page?  (I've been getting 
> complaints from that routine in my syslog from time to time.)

Correct.  I suppose free_small_page ought not to complain when this happens
(just accept but ignore it).  Ok, fixed.
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Is there a version of ArmLinux that would work on an 8MB A440 with an Arm3?

I have an Intel Linux box and would like to use it as a server to the A440.
I'd like to get a version of X to run, so I can run applications on the Intel
box on the Arc's screen...

I had ArmLinux running on a Risc PC. but no longer have that, but have quite
a lot of the files archived.
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Subject: 2.2.0 is out!
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Hi All,

2.2.0 is out!  Well, I expect that you already know that (since I'm sure
you've been tracking Linus' patches), but the ARM patches for 2.2.0 are
also out.

You can find them on the FTP site in:

	/pub/armlinux/kernel-sources/v2.2

Please send bug fixes to me (linux@arm.linux.org.uk), patches to the
kernel to the patch system (please read it's info pages first), or bug
reports to *both* your specific mailing list *and* linux-arm.

There are several things that 2.2.0 will break on the architecture.  You
will need to fix at least:

 - modutils (load ELF files correctly - NetWinder DM#10 has problems)
 - New FPEmulator (NWFPE may be going in real soon if someone can
   dig out a clean patch for it).
 - klogd (doesn't like '%' signs in kernel messages)
 - glibc (libc.so.4 just about works, but you get problems with locking.
   I do have a replacement libc4 which fixes this, but has none of the
   extra features in).
 - X server which supports fbmem (XF86 will not run with 2.2 kernels yet).

I'm sure that there are things missing from this list.  There are some
instructions on the FPE upgrade in the various mailing list archives
(I believe I sent a mail to both lists, but I may be wrong).

Enjoy!
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What release/version do people recommend for arm-linux on the ebsa285 (not as a
coprocessor) ?

After finally getting 2.1.132 pre-patch-2.1.132-19990103-1 booting from flash,
I'm dying in register_console() called from serial_console_init().

Taking heed of the README under linux/arch/arm/drivers/char1, I'm choosing not 
debug it - yet.

The question is will 2.2.0 re-patch-2.2.0-final-19990123-3 be of any help ?


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I'm still having some problems building EGCS 1.1.1.  I've [aparently] been
successful building the 'gcc' compiler (~/egcs1.1.1/gcc/make LANGUAGES="c")
with '-Dinhibit_libc'. However, when I go back and run '~/egcs1.1.1/make
cross' to finish building 'egcs' it fails with the following message:


checking for unistd.h... yes
checking whether the C compiler (/home/chagas/egcs/egcs-1.1.1/gcc/xgcc
-B/home/chagas/egcs/egcs-1.1.1/gcc/ -g ) works... no
configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot
create executables.
make[1]:Leaving directory '/home/chagas/egcs/egcs-1.1.1'
make: *** [cross] Error 2


What can I do to fix this problem?

Thanks,

Jason
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I ran into a problem building the ARM-Linux version (v2.0.030) that runs on
Brutus (downloaded from
http://www.research.digital.com/wrl/itsy/linux/linux-brutus.html
<http://www.research.digital.com/wrl/itsy/linux/linux-brutus.html> ). The
file 'getconstants.c' fails to build because some variable names in
'getconstants.h' were not declared:

/*
 * *** THIS FILE IS AUTOMATICALLY GENERATED.  DO NOT EDIT! ***
 */
unsigned long  = 696;
#define __HAS_
unsigned long  = 708;
#define __HAS_
unsigned long  = 4;
#define __HAS_
unsigned long  = 692;
#define __HAS_
unsigned long  = 552;
#define __HAS_


Apparently 'getconstants.h1' gets generated by
'/arch/arm/lib/extractinfo.perl'... I've tried building it with both ELF and
'a.out' and experienced the same problem on both instances.

Can anyone tell me what I'm missing??

Thanks,

Jason
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>I'm still having some problems building EGCS 1.1.1.  I've [aparently] been
>successful building the 'gcc' compiler (~/egcs1.1.1/gcc/make LANGUAGES="c")
>with '-Dinhibit_libc'. However, when I go back and run '~/egcs1.1.1/make
>cross' to finish building 'egcs' it fails with the following message:

You can't build the rest of EGCS until you've installed a target C library.  
Everything aside from the C compiler itself depends on this.

>What can I do to fix this problem?

You have to do something along the lines of:

 - `make LANGUAGES="c" install' in the gcc directory to install the compiler 
    proper
 - get the glibc sources from sourceware.cygnus.com:/pub/libc, configure, 
   build and install them.

and then you should find that you can actually compile C programs to 
executables.

p.


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This happened to me when following PhilB's instructions :

What happened to me was that I had compiled and installed binutils
with the suggested ./configure linux-arm --prefix=/usr

Unfortunately, as well as installing the linker et al in
/usr/arm-linux/bin, they are also linked as /usr/bin/* - overwriting
the previous linker.

Of course, until you get egcs working, the new linker is no use to
you!  I've now got egcs compiled (glibc is compiling as we speak..) by
reinstalling the old binutils before compiling egcs.  Then, once egcs
was compiled, I went back to the new binutils and 'make install'ed
them.

GLibc seems to be compiling fine with the new kernel headers (barring
running out of swapspace last night, but then this was on a 24Mb RPC
(24Mb swap) running X and about 10 xterms...) - Thanks to PhilB for
pointing me in the right direction!

Matt
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I'm still having some problems building EGCS 1.1.1.  I've [aparently]
been
successful building the 'gcc' compiler (~/egcs1.1.1/gcc/make
LANGUAGES="c")
with '-Dinhibit_libc'. However, when I go back and run
'~/egcs1.1.1/make
cross' to finish building 'egcs' it fails with the following message:


checking for unistd.h... yes
checking whether the C compiler (/home/chagas/egcs/egcs-1.1.1/gcc/xgcc
- -B/home/chagas/egcs/egcs-1.1.1/gcc/ -g ) works... no
configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler
cannot
create executables.
make[1]:Leaving directory '/home/chagas/egcs/egcs-1.1.1'
make: *** [cross] Error 2


What can I do to fix this problem?

Thanks,

Jason
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Hi,

I can't install linux on A7000 RiscPC. When execute
"!Linux"  on Risc OS, message show 

Linux need VRAM:

Why? A7000 doesn't have VRAM, or don't work linux on it?

thanks

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Hi Rob,

On Wed, 27 Jan 1999, Rob Davis wrote:

> I have an Intel Linux box and would like to use it as a server to the A440.
> I'd like to get a version of X to run, so I can run applications on the Intel
> box on the Arc's screen...

To get yourself going you could get a copy of VNC
(http://www.orl.co.uk/vnc/) the virtual server.  Its not as smooth as
using an X server system but it works and there are a couple of RiscOS
clients available as well as a server and so you could use X apps off of
the Intel box using the A440.  This would at least make it useable until
such time as you have a suitable ArmLinux port.

Regards

Melanie

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I can't remember how I solved this problem.  I remembered having the
problem, I just can't remember how I solved it!  Here is my file:

/*
 * *** THIS FILE IS AUTOMATICALLY GENERATED.  DO NOT EDIT! ***
 */
unsigned long tss_memmap = 696;
#define __HAS_tss_memmap
unsigned long mm = 708;
#define __HAS_mm
unsigned long pgd = 4;
#define __HAS_pgd
unsigned long tss_save = 692;
#define __HAS_tss_save
unsigned long tss_fpesave = 552;
#define __HAS_tss_fpesave

Steve Kipisz

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Chagas, Jason [SMTP:jason.chagas@intel.com]
> Sent:	Thursday, January 28, 1999 2:04 AM
> To:	'linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu'
> Cc:	Chagas, Jason
> Subject:	ARM-Linux on Brutus...
> 
> I ran into a problem building the ARM-Linux version (v2.0.030) that runs
> on
> Brutus (downloaded from
> http://www.research.digital.com/wrl/itsy/linux/linux-brutus.html
> <http://www.research.digital.com/wrl/itsy/linux/linux-brutus.html> ). The
> file 'getconstants.c' fails to build because some variable names in
> 'getconstants.h' were not declared:
> 
> /*
>  * *** THIS FILE IS AUTOMATICALLY GENERATED.  DO NOT EDIT! ***
>  */
> unsigned long  = 696;
> #define __HAS_
> unsigned long  = 708;
> #define __HAS_
> unsigned long  = 4;
> #define __HAS_
> unsigned long  = 692;
> #define __HAS_
> unsigned long  = 552;
> #define __HAS_
> 
> 
> Apparently 'getconstants.h1' gets generated by
> '/arch/arm/lib/extractinfo.perl'... I've tried building it with both ELF
> and
> 'a.out' and experienced the same problem on both instances.
> 
> Can anyone tell me what I'm missing??
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jason
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>I don't think that the EBSA285 port should concern itself
>as to the state of the Central function bit in the control
>register, because this port is only meant for the SA110
>running as the central function.  The co285 port is for
>'add-in' cards without the central function bit set.

I don't agree.  Unless you can think of a way in which the change will 
actually harm anything I think it ought to go in regardless.  The situation 
might well arise in which you want a machine similar to the EBSA-285 in every 
respect except that it's not in charge of PCI configuration.  The co285 port, 
as far as I know, changes other things to do with memory mapping that won't 
always be desirable.

In any case, keeping the co285 and EBSA-285 ports as close together as 
possible can only be a good thing.  If a check like this allows them to share 
the hw-ebsa285 code then all the better.

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>1. I've pulled binutils 2.9.1.0.15, made and installed it
>2. Pulled over egcs-1.1b.tar.gz + egcs-1.1b-arm-diff-981004.gz +
>egcs-1.1b-xdev.patch.gz , built + installed egcs
>3. Pulled over the 2.1.132 kernel source for kernel.org
>4. Patched the 2.1.132 kernel with pre-patch-2.1.132-19990103-1.gz

All these are somewhat old now.  Although that's not necessarily your problem 
you should probably consider getting newer versions anyway.

>When the compiled kernel is pushed onto our EBSA via the Angel Debugger,
>copied to main memory and executed nothing happens :-(

Are you setting up the registers correctly for calling the kernel, and are you 
loading it at the correct address?

If so you probably need to insert more debugging stuff to figure out what's 
wrong.  If you can work out how far the kernel gets before crashing that would 
be a help.  The 21285 serial port console isn't initialised until quite late 
in bootup so if you get a crash early on it won't show up there.

p.


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> I ran into a problem building the ARM-Linux version (v2.0.030) that runs on
> Brutus (downloaded from
> http://www.research.digital.com/wrl/itsy/linux/linux-brutus.html
> <http://www.research.digital.com/wrl/itsy/linux/linux-brutus.html> ). The
> file 'getconstants.c' fails to build because some variable names in
> 'getconstants.h' were not declared:

	I had this problem, but only when I tried to build with an elf
compiler.  Switching to a.out solved the problem.  Make sure make is
calling the correct compiler (verify with xxx-gcc -dumpmachine).

	You may also want to try getting the latest kernel and patches.
2.0.35 is the latest working Brutus kernel; get the tar file, apply the
appropriate arm patch from ftp.arm.linux.org.uk, then the brutus patch
from ftp.cam.org/users/nico.  

Chris

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Subject: How to build an EBSA Kernel
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Having used Linux for a wee while I know creating an kernel is a
straightforward thing (on and Intel platform anyway). I'm trying to cross
compile an EBSA kernel using an PII running Redhat v5.1 (2.0.34 kernel) and
it ain't that easy.

Steps so far.

1. I've pulled binutils 2.9.1.0.15, made and installed it
2. Pulled over egcs-1.1b.tar.gz + egcs-1.1b-arm-diff-981004.gz +
egcs-1.1b-xdev.patch.gz , built + installed egcs
3. Pulled over the 2.1.132 kernel source for kernel.org
4. Patched the 2.1.132 kernel with pre-patch-2.1.132-19990103-1.gz

then built the .config file using 'make xconfig' . ( see bottom of mail for
the .config file created)

When the compiled kernel is pushed onto our EBSA via the Angel Debugger,
copied to main memory and executed nothing happens :-(
To test things we've added some code to head-armv.S to flicker the leds.
When executed the leds flicker but nothing else happens. 

At the moment I'm baffled as to what's wrong.  I don't want to do anything
fancy just get a compiled kernel to boot so that It can be customized later.
I have heard mentions of a bootloader for EBSA but as yet haven't managed to
get my grubby paws on it.

I have also contacted a couple of folk (names found through this mailing
list) for help, but even with their help I'm still stuck.

Help

Iain

------------- .config file --------------
#
# Automatically generated make config: don't edit
#
CONFIG_ARM=y

#
# System and processor type
#
# CONFIG_ARCH_ARC is not set
# CONFIG_ARCH_A5K is not set
# CONFIG_ARCH_RPC is not set
# CONFIG_ARCH_EBSA110 is not set
CONFIG_ARCH_EBSA285=y
# CONFIG_ARCH_NEXUSPCI is not set
# CONFIG_ARCH_VNC is not set
# CONFIG_ARCH_TBOX is not set
# CONFIG_CATS is not set
# CONFIG_ARCH_ACORN is not set
CONFIG_PCI=y
# CONFIG_ISA_DMA is not set
CONFIG_CPU_32=y
# CONFIG_CPU_26 is not set
# CONFIG_CPU_ARM2 is not set
# CONFIG_CPU_ARM3 is not set
# CONFIG_CPU_ARM6 is not set
# CONFIG_CPU_ARM7 is not set
CONFIG_CPU_SA110=y
CONFIG_PAGESIZE_32=y
# CONFIG_PAGESIZE_16 is not set
# CONFIG_PAGESIZE_8 is not set

#
# Code maturity level options
#
# CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL is not set
CONFIG_BINUTILS_NEW=y
# CONFIG_ALIGNMENT_TRAP is not set
# CONFIG_TEXT_INIT_SECTION is not set
CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER=y

#
# Loadable module support
#
CONFIG_MODULES=y
# CONFIG_MODVERSIONS is not set
CONFIG_KMOD=y

#
# General setup
#
# CONFIG_NET is not set
# CONFIG_SYSVIPC is not set
# CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT is not set
# CONFIG_SYSCTL is not set
CONFIG_BINFMT_AOUT=y
CONFIG_BINFMT_ELF=m
CONFIG_BINFMT_MISC=m
# CONFIG_PARPORT is not set

#
# Plug and Play support
#
# CONFIG_PNP is not set

#
# Block devices
#
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_FD is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE is not set

#
# Please see Documentation/ide.txt for help/info on IDE drives
#
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD_ONLY is not set

#
# Additional Block Devices
#
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_MD is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_XD is not set
CONFIG_PARIDE_PARPORT=y
# CONFIG_PARIDE is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD is not set

#
# Character devices
#
# CONFIG_VT is not set
# CONFIG_SERIAL is not set
# CONFIG_SERIAL_EXTENDED is not set
CONFIG_SERIAL_21285=y
CONFIG_SERIAL_21285_CONSOLE=y
# CONFIG_WATCHDOG is not set
# CONFIG_MOUSE is not set
# CONFIG_UNIX98_PTYS is not set
# CONFIG_FT_NORMAL_DEBUG is not set
# CONFIG_FT_FULL_DEBUG is not set
# CONFIG_FT_NO_TRACE is not set
# CONFIG_FT_NO_TRACE_AT_ALL is not set
# CONFIG_FT_STD_FDC is not set
# CONFIG_FT_MACH2 is not set
# CONFIG_FT_PROBE_FC10 is not set
# CONFIG_FT_ALT_FDC is not set

#
# SCSI support
#
# CONFIG_SCSI is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_G_NCR5380_PORT is not set
# CONFIG_SCSI_G_NCR5380_MEM is not set

#
# Sound
#
# CONFIG_SOUND is not set

#
# Filesystems
#
# CONFIG_QUOTA is not set
# CONFIG_MINIX_FS is not set
# CONFIG_EXT2_FS is not set
CONFIG_ISO9660_FS=m
# CONFIG_JOLIET is not set
# CONFIG_FAT_FS is not set
# CONFIG_PROC_FS is not set
# CONFIG_HPFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_NTFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_SYSV_FS is not set
# CONFIG_AFFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_HFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_ROMFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_AUTOFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_UFS_FS is not set

#
# Partitions
#
# CONFIG_OSF_PARTITION is not set
# CONFIG_MAC_PARTITION is not set
CONFIG_MSDOS_PARTITION=y
# CONFIG_SGI_PARTITION is not set
# CONFIG_SUN_PARTITION is not set
# CONFIG_AMIGA_PARTITION is not set
CONFIG_ACORN_PARTITION=y
CONFIG_ACORN_PARTITION_ADFS=y
# CONFIG_ACORN_PARTITION_ICS is not set
# CONFIG_ACORN_PARTITION_POWERTEC is not set
# CONFIG_ACORN_PARTITION_RISCIX is not set
# CONFIG_NLS is not set

#
# Kernel hacking
#
CONFIG_DEBUG_ERRORS=y
# CONFIG_MAGIC_SYSRQ is not set

--------- end of .config file -----------
	Iain Grant
DMCC Firmware Engineer
Compaq (Scotland)
*Tel:   823-3532 (DTN) - Int'l (44-1292) 883532
*Fax:  823-3241 (DTN) - Int'l (44-1292) 883241
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Greetings!

We've been running ARM-Linux on Brutus using the Angel monitor to setup
Brutus' virtual memory, page tables, and to download Linux onto Brutus.
Now, we're migrating away from Brutus and onto our own platform which is
similar to Brutus -- SA1100, 2 banks of DRAM, and 1 bank of ROM, and
one serial port for Angel to communicate with the host computer/debugger
(but none of the other peripherals and switches). We're having an awful lot
of trouble getting our ported Angel to work properly on our platform. We've
been able to run our ported Angel on Brutus, but it just seems to hang
somewhere in the middle of the code when we run it on our platform. We've
been monitoring the GPIO 8,9, 20 lines (which are connected to the 2 green
and 1 red LEDs on Brutus) and we are getting similar but not quite identical
waveforms on those lines when we run them on our board.

Are there any tools out there that allow us to query the SA1100 and find
out what's going on (e.g., through the JTAG interface)? Any other
suggestions? Is there some other component that I need on our board to
make Angel and Linux work???

Thanks!
Sandeep.

Sandeep Chatterjee
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
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>I think that --prefix=/usr is a very bad idea.  There are good reasons 
>why it's not the default and I would hesitate long and hard before
>doing what you described.  Certainly, for that to be recommended
>without a long list of warnings seems wrong.

Yeah.  If it really does say that in my instructions (I'll check) it was a 
thinko on my part.  Possibly I got mixed up between building a native compiler 
and a cross-compiler; for the latter you often *do* want --prefix=/usr (or /
usr/local) but you have to use --target.

p.


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David Ramsden wrote:

> How can I boot *straight* into Linux, bypassing that screen asking me to
> select either 1.) Risc OS or 2.) Linux. So basically it from me double
> clicking on !Linux it will go staright into the 'Uncompressing Linux'
> screen. 

AFAIK, at least without the source to Russell's bootloader, you can't. 
However, I've hacked Matthew's !BootLinux app to add extra command line
options to autoboot (ie not wait for a click in the RISC OS window), and
control whether to shutdown or not.  The autoboot option uses the slightly
underwhelming feat of writing the console input required (essentially
2|Mroot=<whatever root is>|M) to a file in PipeFS, and *Execing it. 

It's a bit of a hack, but it works.  ATM it's slightly broken the
usual startup method (I use a separate Obey file to do the autoboot), but
that's a trivial fix when I've got time.  Anyone is welcome to a copy if
it's of any use (Matthew - I'll send you the changes when I've done that 
fix).

If you want Linux to start completely, you might also need to sort out the
fscks that run by default and give a console prompt.  I've currently got
them disabled (perhaps a bad idea), awaiting sorting out some sort of cron
system.

Some of these may not be necessary in your situation - my aim was to be
able to do reboots over telnet, so console prompts or RISC OS error boxes
aren't much help.  I've got it working - remote RISC OS (+VNC) - Linux
(+X) - RISC OS rebooting from the other side of town is quite neat...

Hope this helps,
Theo

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On Thu, 28 Jan 1999, Sandeep Chatterjee wrote:

> Are there any tools out there that allow us to query the SA1100 and find
> out what's going on (e.g., through the JTAG interface)? Any other
> suggestions? Is there some other component that I need on our board to
> make Angel and Linux work???

My suggestion is: get rid of Angel.
The only thing you need is to copy the kernel from ROM to 0xc0008000
physical and jump into it.  You don't have to bother with the MMU at all
-- the kernel will enable it the right way.


Nicolas Pitre, B. ing.
nico@cam.org


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>>>>> "Matt" == Matt Godbolt <matthew@argonaut.com> writes:

 Matt> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1

 Matt> This happened to me when following PhilB's instructions :

 Matt> What happened to me was that I had compiled and installed
 Matt> binutils with the suggested ./configure linux-arm --prefix=/usr

 Matt> Unfortunately, as well as installing the linker et al in
 Matt> /usr/arm-linux/bin, they are also linked as /usr/bin/* -
 Matt> overwriting the previous linker.

I think that --prefix=/usr is a very bad idea.  There are good reasons 
why it's not the default and I would hesitate long and hard before
doing what you described.  Certainly, for that to be recommended
without a long list of warnings seems wrong.

	paul
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>It is the way that I intend it.  I don't see that you have to
>agree, it's just the way it was meant from the outset.

Is there any particular reason for that?

p.


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Subject: Re: ARM-Linux on Brutus...
To: EUSSTK@am1.ericsson.se (Steve Kipisz)
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Steve Kipisz said:
> I can't remember how I solved this problem.  I remembered having the
> problem, I just can't remember how I solved it!  Here is my file:
> 
> /*
>  * *** THIS FILE IS AUTOMATICALLY GENERATED.  DO NOT EDIT! ***
>  */
> unsigned long tss_memmap = 696;
> #define __HAS_tss_memmap
> unsigned long mm = 708;
> #define __HAS_mm
> unsigned long pgd = 4;
> #define __HAS_pgd
> unsigned long tss_save = 692;
> #define __HAS_tss_save
> unsigned long tss_fpesave = 552;
> #define __HAS_tss_fpesave

It is not a good idea to send people this file!  There is a good
reason why it's automatically generated (and it's not to make the
build process harder).  The constants are highly kernel-version
dependent.

The problem is most likely going to be an incompatability between
the 'extractinfo.pl' perl script and your version of objdump.  When
using 2.0 kernel source, you either /must/ use the binutils-2.7 a.out
tools, /or/ fix 'extractinfo.pl' so that it can parse your binutils'
objdump output.
--
Russell King (rmk@milldev.demon.co.uk)


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Philip Blundell said:
> >I don't think that the EBSA285 port should concern itself
> >as to the state of the Central function bit in the control
> >register, because this port is only meant for the SA110
> >running as the central function.  The co285 port is for
> >'add-in' cards without the central function bit set.
> 
> I don't agree.  Unless you can think of a way in which the change will 
> actually harm anything I think it ought to go in regardless.  The situation 
> might well arise in which you want a machine similar to the EBSA-285 in every 
> respect except that it's not in charge of PCI configuration.  The co285 port, 
> as far as I know, changes other things to do with memory mapping that won't 
> always be desirable.

It is the way that I intend it.  I don't see that you have to
agree, it's just the way it was meant from the outset.

--
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	The co285 port, as far as I know, changes other things to do
	with memory mapping that won't always be desirable.

The co285 essentially is the ebsa-285 port with the kernel remapped. I
disabled the PCI code since it is not needed.

	In any case, keeping the co285 and EBSA-285 ports as close
	together as possible can only be a good thing.  If a check like
	this allows them to share the hw-ebsa285 code then all the
	better.

Hopefully the difference between the two ports does not have to be more
than the different location of the kernel and the ioremap, ioread etc
functions.

Mark.
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Subject: Re: Booting straight into Linux
To: atm26@cam.ac.uk (Theo Markettos)
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Theo Markettos writes:
> David Ramsden wrote:
> > How can I boot *straight* into Linux, bypassing that screen asking me to
> > select either 1.) Risc OS or 2.) Linux. So basically it from me double
> > clicking on !Linux it will go staright into the 'Uncompressing Linux'
> > screen. 
> 
> AFAIK, at least without the source to Russell's bootloader, you can't. 
> However, I've hacked Matthew's !BootLinux app to add extra command line
> options to autoboot (ie not wait for a click in the RISC OS window), and
> control whether to shutdown or not.  The autoboot option uses the slightly
> underwhelming feat of writing the console input required (essentially
> 2|Mroot=<whatever root is>|M) to a file in PipeFS, and *Execing it. 

Yes you can boot straight into it.  If you'd like to install the kernel
correctly, *and* read the supplied !Help, it will tell you how to do it.
Indeed, when I get in at night, all I do is turn the RiscPC on, have
dinner, and then log into Linux.

This is, in fact, the intended mode of !Linux.  No hacks, no extra software
required.

> If you want Linux to start completely, you might also need to sort out the
> fscks that run by default and give a console prompt.  I've currently got
> them disabled (perhaps a bad idea), awaiting sorting out some sort of cron
> system.

Linux does start completely.  Did you follow the FAQ wrt installing the kernel.
If not, it's not installed correctly, which would tend to indicate why you're
having soo many problems.

> Some of these may not be necessary in your situation - my aim was to be
> able to do reboots over telnet, so console prompts or RISC OS error boxes
> aren't much help.  I've got it working - remote RISC OS (+VNC) - Linux
> (+X) - RISC OS rebooting from the other side of town is quite neat...

Indeed, I can reboot my machine from 50 miles away and log into it using
nothing more than that which is on the FTP site.
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Subject: Re: recommended release/version
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Dave Baukus writes:
> What release/version do people recommend for arm-linux on the ebsa285 (not as a
> coprocessor) ?

patch-2.2.0-19990127-1.gz is the latest, and first of the 2.2 kernels.  It
should be ok on the EBSA285 (I haven't heard any complaints yet).

> After finally getting 2.1.132 pre-patch-2.1.132-19990103-1 booting from flash,
> I'm dying in register_console() called from serial_console_init().

You can get the kernel messages out of the serial port.  To do this, I add
to kernel/printk.c, just after va_end(args) in printk():

	printascii(buf+3);

However, keep an eye in arch/arm/kernel/head-armv.S around line 410, since the
debugging code needs to be correctly configured for the machine you're actually
booting (since an EBSA285 kernel can be booted not only on EBSA285 but on
Netwinder, and the serial port hardware is significantly different).

NOTE! This code is only meant to be used by people who hack the kernel.  Please
don't attempt to optimise it.
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Subject: Re: ebsa-285 things
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Philip Blundell writes:
> In any case, keeping the co285 and EBSA-285 ports as close together as 
> possible can only be a good thing.  If a check like this allows them to share 
> the hw-ebsa285 code then all the better.

We'll see when the co285 stuff gets pushed into the kernel.
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Subject: Re: How to build an EBSA Kernel
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Iain Grant writes:
> When the compiled kernel is pushed onto our EBSA via the Angel Debugger,
> copied to main memory and executed nothing happens :-(
> To test things we've added some code to head-armv.S to flicker the leds.
> When executed the leds flicker but nothing else happens. 

The first point I'll make is that you can't use Angel to debug ARM Linux.

The EBSA285 kernel assumes that you have loaded it into RAM at 0x00008000,
and when you call it, you have set R0 = 0 and R1 = EBSA285 architecture number.
Plus, it wants the parameter page set up.

> At the moment I'm baffled as to what's wrong.  I don't want to do anything
> fancy just get a compiled kernel to boot so that It can be customized later.
> I have heard mentions of a bootloader for EBSA but as yet haven't managed to
> get my grubby paws on it.

I need to find the time to clean up the EBSA285 boot loader source (the IDE
driver specifically) before I can release it.
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Subject: Re: Porting Angel for ARM-Linux on Brutus
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Nicolas Pitre writes:
> My suggestion is: get rid of Angel.
> The only thing you need is to copy the kernel from ROM to 0xc0008000
> physical and jump into it.  You don't have to bother with the MMU at all
> -- the kernel will enable it the right way.

Erm, erm, erm, not quite.  The kernel should be located at 0x00008000 on
the EBSA285 *with the mmu off*.  The registers and parameter structure
must then be set up correctly before the kernel is called.
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Subject: Re: ebsa-285 things
To: pb@nexus.co.uk (Philip Blundell)
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Philip Blundell writes:
> >It is the way that I intend it.  I don't see that you have to
> >agree, it's just the way it was meant from the outset.
> 
> Is there any particular reason for that?

Yes, performance.  The impact of the extra work for handling the
setup of the SDRAM allocated by the CFN CPU would hit all functions
that use the page tables significantly.  In this case, the SDRAM
PCI base should not be modified by the EBSA285.

IMHO, if you're running a machine with the SDRAM located at a fixed
address in PCI space, you don't really want to have the overhead of
loading the PCI offset *twice* for each and every PTE reference.

In summary, I'm surprised that you're trying to push this when you're
trying to remove individual CPU cycles else where in the kernel.  It
sounds to me very contradictory.
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I'm currently rather pissed off (in case you lot haven't noticed).

I am currently unable to pull my mail off for my 'rmk' account.  Not sure
why, but there's 161 emails in 822k sitting there from the last 8 hours.

PLEASE do not CC: me at my arm.linux.org.uk domains if you're also sending
it to the linux-arm list.

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Russell King wrote:

>Yes, performance.  The impact of the extra work for handling the
>setup of the SDRAM allocated by the CFN CPU would hit all functions
>that use the page tables significantly.  In this case, the SDRAM
>PCI base should not be modified by the EBSA285.
>
>IMHO, if you're running a machine with the SDRAM located at a fixed
>address in PCI space, you don't really want to have the overhead of
>loading the PCI offset *twice* for each and every PTE reference.

I don't see that it's that big a deal.  As far as I can tell, the only place 
we need to care what address our memory is mapped to in PCI space is in 
virt_to_bus and bus_to_virt.  Changing the PCI base address doesn't alter 
either the physical address as seen by the local CPU, or the virtual 
address where the RAM is mapped.  All that changes is how other busmasters see 
the local memory.

Where do the page tables come into it?  I get the feeling perhaps I'm missing 
the point of what you were trying to say.  Can you give a concrete example of 
where the performance hit is taken?

>In summary, I'm surprised that you're trying to push this when you're
>trying to remove individual CPU cycles else where in the kernel.  It
>sounds to me very contradictory.

The actual patch that you were objecting to doesn't add any cycles at all to 
any fast-path code.  If I'm forgetting about something that means that other 
code has to be compile-time conditional on the model in use then so be it, but 
that's a different issue.

p.


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Ok, due to the severe amount of email that I have here, I, and a lot of
other people who are served by the mail server I pull arm.linux.org.uk
mail off of are currently unable to get any mail whatsoever.

Please could people refrain from using this list until this problem is
solved (otherwise there's going to be significantly more email flying
about between vger.rutgers.edu and tallyho.bc.nu than normal)?
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I'm having to word this around certain s and u words cause majordomo
will bounce this email for admin otherwise.

I'm having to 'remove' all email addresses in the '.de' domain, since
someone in '.de' is on the list and is using Microsoft Exchange. 
Unfortunately, it appears that it (like most Microsoft software) is in
dire need of maintainence to keep it running, and is bouncing each and
every email, with no way for me to tie it down to anyone who is on the
list.

If you are in '.de', please re-subscribe one hour after you receive
this message.

Thanks.
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In case the other one didn't get through (cause I did mention an S-word in it),
here it is again:

I'm having to word this around certain s and u words cause majordomo
will bounce this email for admin otherwise.

I'm having to 'remove' all email addresses in the '.de' domain, since
someone in '.de' is on the list and is using Microsoft Exchange.
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Russell King - ARM Linux Admin writes:
> Please could people refrain from using this list until this problem is
> solved (otherwise there's going to be significantly more email flying
> about between vger.rutgers.edu and tallyho.bc.nu than normal)?

Forget this now.  Thanks.
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Subject: Can't get running from a Powertec SCSI disk!
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Hi, I'm having a problem getting armlinux running on a
RPC700 with StrongArm(200MHz), I've got the following
disks:

IDE: 800MB ADFS
SCSI: 4GB disk - PowerTec Fast SCSI II card
+CD ROM, Floppy and Parallel Port Disk Drive.
i3 EtherH 600 card

I initially had some problems with partman, but eventually got round
them by using the !PowerMgr software for the SCSI card to create 2 empty
partitions, which I then designated as Linux Native (1761MB)  and Swap
(127MB), these were at the end of the drive.

I ran the installer, it was able to recognize the SCSI card, the Network
card and the PPA Zip drive (all on autoprobe) and I was able to specify
/dev/sda4 as root partition and /dev/sda5 as swap. Installing from the
Zip disk (/dev/sdb?, something) it seemed to successfully install....


At the end of the installation, the installer complained of not being
able to find 'kernel' or 'kernel-modules', nothing odd there - (FAQ Q6)
however when attempting to reboot using the kernel from a DOS floppy,
I entered:

root=/dev/sda4

as my root partition, the kernel proceded to try and boot, giving the
following messages:


Uncompressing Linux...done
Now booting the kernal
Console: colour A-series 100x75x256, 1 virtual console (max 63)
Installed expansion cards:
  0: [005B:0107] AlSystems PowerTec SCSI
  2: [001F:00E6] 24i16 Video/Audio Digitiser (+1MB) - Irlam Instruments Ltd
  8: [0046:00EC] i-cubed ltd, EtherLan 600Lk Interface (00:c0:32:00:87:FB)
Calibrating delay loop.. ok - 190.46 BogoMIPS
Memory: 39156k/40960k available (860k kernel code, 36k reserved, 988k data)
Swansea University Computer Society NET3.035 for Linux 2.0
NET3: Unix domain sockets 0.13 for Linux NET3.035.
Swansea University Computer Society TCP/IP for NET3.034
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
Linux version 2.0.35 (src@raistlin) (gcc version 2.7.2.2) #3 Mon Aug 31 19:05:35 BST 1998
Starting kswapd v 1.4.2.2
Keyboard driver v1.00
Serial driver version 4.3 with no serial options enabled
tty00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 10) is a 16550A
Ramdisk driver initialized : 16 ramdisks of 4096K size
hda: Conner Peripherals 850MB - CFS850A, 812MB w/645kB Cache, CHS=1651/16/63
hdb: HITACHI CDR-7730, ATAPI CDROM drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 9
floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M fd1 is 1.44M
FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
scsi : 0 hosts.
scsi : detected total.
Partition check:
 hda:[ADFS] hda1
VFS: Cannot open root device 08:04
Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 08:04




I take this to mean that it didn't recognize my SCSI card. Should it
have done or am I just being generally thick?

Anyway, I've not been able to get around the problem or install the
bootloader - any suggestions?

Also, I can't get !LinuxConf to recognize the SCSI partition, for any
value of *SCSIFS::X.X that I can see (I'd guessed 4.0) it won't
recognize the SCSI partition. Is this what the bootloader's for, or is
this another problem?!

Many Thanks
Richard


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On Thu, 28 Jan 1999, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote:

> Nicolas Pitre writes:
> > My suggestion is: get rid of Angel.
> > The only thing you need is to copy the kernel from ROM to 0xc0008000
> > physical and jump into it.  You don't have to bother with the MMU at all
> > -- the kernel will enable it the right way.
> 
> Erm, erm, erm, not quite.  The kernel should be located at 0x00008000 on
> the EBSA285 *with the mmu off*.  The registers and parameter structure
> must then be set up correctly before the kernel is called.

But we aren't talking about EBSA285 here...  :-)


Nicolas Pitre, B. ing.
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>1. Does ARM Linux for the EBSA-285 board work in an environment without
>a hard  drive or NFS partition ?

Theoretically yes, though you need some way to provide a filesystem.  You 
could use an initrd for this if you had a suitable bootloader.

>2. Can this board be used in slave mode (i.e inserted into a PC) or only
>in master mode (i.e. with a passive backplane) ?

Again in theory either.   I think Mark van Doesburg is the only person 
currently running it in "slave" mode and there are some kernel patches 
necessary.

p.


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Hi !

As  I am new to this mailing list, I'd appreciate it if someone could
answer my (some of) questions:

1. Does ARM Linux for the EBSA-285 board work in an environment without
a hard  drive or NFS partition ?

2. Can this board be used in slave mode (i.e inserted into a PC) or only
in master mode (i.e. with a passive backplane) ?

Help os greatly appreciated.

Greets,
Chris

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Mitch Davis wrote:
> 
> Hello ARMers,
> 
> Can anyone suggest good books for learning about the ARM7
> architecture?
> 
> According to Amazon, the "Arm Architecture Reference Manual"
> by Dave Jagger is out of print.  Is this what people would
> recommend?

Well, Jagger's book is the definitive statement, but another *excellent* book is:

Steve Furber "ARM System Architecture" Addison-Wesley,1996 ISBN 0-201-40352-8

Steve Furber was one of the original co-designers of the ARM and now works (at
Manchester University) on asynchronous logic versions, called AMULET.
The book covers ARM-related issues from the micro-architectural level right up to
system level -- including chapters on architectural support for operating systems and
for high-level languages (compilers).

here is a list of contents:

http://maveric0.uwaterloo.ca/amulet/publications/books/ARMsysArch/

Neal.
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The time is currently 13:11 on Friday, Jan 29.

Since I am still receiving these bounces from this MiccySoft
Exchange package from Germany, after  u n s u b s c r i b i n g
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Andreas Schwab pointed out that in fact sys_vfork is necessary on 
architectures like m68k and ARM after all, for backwards compatibility 
reasons.  An implementation based purely in the libc is fine for new 
kernels but will cause all sorts of lossage when run under an old kernel.  
Since compatibility with 2.0 is desirable it looks like we really do need a 
syscall.

I've accordingly added it back in my tree.  The problem is that the versions 
of 2.2.0 and 2.2.1 currently on the ftp site do actually provide sys_vfork but 
the implementation is wrong owing to changes in the generic fork code.  
Although I haven't tried it I think that any program trying to use sys_vfork 
on such a kernel will deadlock.  A patch for sys_arm.c to update to the new 
semantics is below, but be warned I haven't yet tested this either.

So, the question is: do we care about this?  If so we need to change 
__NR_vfork to some new number.  Russell, what do you think?

I'd like to resolve this quickly if possible so that glibc 2.1 can have a 
working vfork implementation.

p.

--- clean/linux/arch/arm/kernel/sys_arm.c	Fri Jan 29 11:46:32 1999
+++ linux/arch/arm/kernel/sys_arm.c	Fri Jan 29 12:44:45 1999
@@ -234,18 +234,20 @@
 	return do_fork(clone_flags, newsp, regs);
 }
 
+/*
+ * This is trivial, and on the face of it looks like it
+ * could equally well be done in user mode.
+ *
+ * Unfortunately backwards compatibility concerns mean that
+ * we need a new system call.  If user space simply called
+ * clone() directly an old kernel might silently ignore
+ * the CLONE_VFORK flag which would be death.
+ *
+ * This is called indirectly via a small wrapper
+ */
 asmlinkage int sys_vfork(struct pt_regs *regs)
 {
-	int child;
-	struct semaphore sem = MUTEX_LOCKED;
-
-	current->vfork_sem = &sem;
-	child = do_fork(CLONE_VFORK | CLONE_VM | SIGCHLD, regs->ARM_sp, regs);
-
-	if (child > 0)
-		down(&sem);
-
-	return child;
+	return do_fork(CLONE_VFORK | CLONE_VM | SIGCHLD, regs->ARM_sp, regs);
 }
 
 /* sys_execve() executes a new program.


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Alex Holden wrote:

>Having just managed to trash my NetWinder by installing glibc-2.0.111
>(yes, I did use --disable-versioning), I was wondering what the latest
>version anyone else had got working yet was. Is it worth upgrading to a
>versioned library just yet? Does RedHat RawHide use versioning? Where is
>the glibc development mailing list?

The current code in CVS should be OK and so should the 2.0.112 snapshot when 
it's released.  Unfortunately 2.0.111 had a few foul-ups, notably with clone 
and vfork, that cause fairly major lossage.

You can subscribe to libc-alpha@gnu.org if you're interested in discussion of 
the alpha-test versions.  Mail me privately if you want to get on the actual 
development list.

Upgrading to a versioned library is an all or nothing thing.  You may have to 
recompile every binary and library on your system.  If you want to do this 
then you're probably better off using something like Rod's "Titan" 
distribution which uses versioning already to get you going.

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>I tried to build the binutils but failed at start of compiling where
>the comoiler missed 'mode_t'. I think there is something which I didn't

You need to give more details.  It sounds as if you have some basic problem 
with your development environment.

`mode_t' should be defined by <sys/types.h>.

p.


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What's the situation with Glibc-2.0.11* on ARM-Linux?

Having just managed to trash my NetWinder by installing glibc-2.0.111
(yes, I did use --disable-versioning), I was wondering what the latest
version anyone else had got working yet was. Is it worth upgrading to a
versioned library just yet? Does RedHat RawHide use versioning? Where is
the glibc development mailing list?

Thanks a lot, Alex.

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Hi!
I tried to build the binutils but failed at start of compiling where
the comoiler missed 'mode_t'. I think there is something which I didn't
install or didn't place the correct link from somewhere to somewhere
else. Any ideas?

Best regards,
Tom

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On Fri, 29 Jan 1999, Philip Blundell wrote:
> The current code in CVS should be OK and so should the 2.0.112 snapshot when 
> it's released.  Unfortunately 2.0.111 had a few foul-ups, notably with clone 
> and vfork, that cause fairly major lossage.

I see, I've been having some problems with it on Intel as well, but I'm
not sure whether it's something I've done wrong or not- vsprintf() doesn't
seem to cause segfaults when compiled against the new library, but not if
they were compiled against an older library. This means things like the
"build" program which generates zImage doesn't work unless you hack it to
remove all references to vsprintf. Is that a known bug in that release?

> Upgrading to a versioned library is an all or nothing thing.  You may have to 
> recompile every binary and library on your system.  If you want to do this 
> then you're probably better off using something like Rod's "Titan" 
> distribution which uses versioning already to get you going.

That's what I was thinking of doing- I was just wondering though whether
Rod's distro or RawHide are a better bet as a starting point (_is_ RawHide
versioned for that matter?).

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On Fri, 29 Jan 1999, Alex Holden wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Jan 1999, Philip Blundell wrote:

> > Upgrading to a versioned library is an all or nothing thing.  You may have to 
> > recompile every binary and library on your system.  If you want to do this 
> > then you're probably better off using something like Rod's "Titan" 
> > distribution which uses versioning already to get you going.
> 
> That's what I was thinking of doing- I was just wondering though whether
> Rod's distro or RawHide are a better bet as a starting point (_is_ RawHide
> versioned for that matter?).

Yes, RawHide is versioned.  My distro is pretty similar to RawHide, with a
few extras, and some things that are not in RawHide yet.  As well
Titan III, which should be released this weekend will be linked
agains the most recent version of glibc.  (i.e. a kernel for ARM).

I'll post some more on Titan in a bit (either tonight, or tomorrow).  I
still have to decide wether to upgrade glibc, once again.  Currently I'm
using glibc-2.0.111-0.990127, but I think I will upgrade to current cvs
tonight or tomorrow morning.  The only thing is I want everything linked 
against the current version, and it takes:
	glibc 3 hours
	egcs 3 hours
	binutils 45 mins
	rpm 30-45 mins
	perl 30-45 mins
	X 4 hours
to build the base apps.  Then I can start using multiple machines to
build.

-Rms
Titan is available at the following, most/all packages will be relinked
this weekend:

Please use a mirror, as Carleton's bandwidth is very bad during the day
        ftp.highrise.ca:/pub/winder          (mirror, updated nightly)
        ftp.geekhaus.ml.org:/pub/netwinder   (mirror, updated nightly)

        ftp.nw.carleton.ca:/pub/winder       (primary site, bad bandwidth)

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Anybody see this problem before ?
I get an invalid instruction in what appears to be timer1_interupt().

I'm running 2.2.0 w/ the  pre-patch-2.2.0-final-19990123-3 patch
on and ebsa285 (not Coprocessor). 

Any clues appreciated

The stack trace is basically:
	timer1_interupt
	do_IRQ


Internal error: Oops - undefined instruction: c00e5f94
CPU: 0
pc : [<c001307c>]    lr : [<c0015864>]
sp : c00e5f4c  ip : c00e5f64  fp : c00e5f60
r10: fc012000  r9 : c00f1bbc  r8 : c00f1bfc
r7 : 00000000  r6 : 00000000  r5 : 00000002  r4 : c00e5f94
r3 : fe00030c  r2 : c00e5f94  r1 : 00000000  r0 : 00000002
Flags: nZCv  IRQs on  FIQs off  Mode SVC_32  Segment kernel
Control: 4171  Table: 00004171  DAC: 0000001F
Process swapper (pid: 0, stackpage=c00e5000)
Stack: 
c00e5f20:                                                                
c0015864 
c00e5f40: c001307c 60000053 ffffffff c0013124  00000002 c00e5f90 c00e5f64
c0015864 
c00e5f60: c0013064 00000040 c00e5f94 fe000000  c00e5fdc 00000010 c0008720
80000053 
c00e5f80: ffffffff c00e5ffc c00e5f94 c0014a80  c0015798 c0138bf0 00000060
00000000 
c00e5fa0: 80000053 c0101e7c c00e76c4 c0101df0  c00e76c8 c00e7904 000ffff8
fc012000 
c00e5fc0: c00e5ffc c00f707c c00e5fdc c0008b40  c0008720 80000053 ffffffff
c00e79a4 
c00e5fe0: c0101e7c c010d904 c0101df0 c010d904  00000000 c00e6000 c00083e0
c0008a2c 
Backtrace: 
Function entered at [<c0013058>] from [<c0015864>]
  r5 = 00000002
  r4 = c0013124
Function entered at [<c001578c>] from [<c0014a80>]
  r9 = ffffffff
  r8 = 80000053
  r7 = c0008720
  r6 = 00000010
  r5 = c00e5fdc
  r4 = fe000000
Function entered at [<c0008a20>] from [<c00083e0>]
  r7 = c010d904
  r6 = c0101df0
  r5 = c010d904
  r4 = c0101e7c
Code: e1a04002 ec005574 (e1a00004) eb00300e e59f3074 
Aiee, killing interrupt handler
Kernel panic: Attempted to kill the idle task!
In swapper task - not syncing

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Dave Baukus writes:
> Anybody see this problem before ?
> I get an invalid instruction in what appears to be timer1_interupt().
>...
> Code: e1a04002 ec005574 (e1a00004) eb00300e e59f3074 

This works out to be:

00000000 e1a04002       mov     r4, r2
00000004 ec005574       stc     5, cr5, [r0], -#1d0
00000008 e1a00004       mov     r0, r4
0000000c eb00300e       bl      0000c04c

Looks to me as if it's a compiler bug.  This routine should not contain
'stc' instructions.  What does the vmlinux' disassembly indicate for
timer1_interrupt?
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Ok, most people who where subscribed to linux-arm and were unsubscribed
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>00000000 e1a04002       mov     r4, r2
>00000004 ec005574       stc     5, cr5, [r0], -#1d0
>00000008 e1a00004       mov     r0, r4
>0000000c eb00300e       bl      0000c04c
>
>Looks to me as if it's a compiler bug.  This routine should not contain
>'stc' instructions.  What does the vmlinux' disassembly indicate for
>timer1_interrupt?

It might be an assembler problem; reloc for a `bl' overflowing into the opcode 
field.  I've seen that kind of thing before. 

If you can compare the disassembly of vmlinux with the disassembly of the 
specific .o file containing that routine, it would be a big clue.

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>Any clues appreciated

Do you have CONFIG_TEXT_SECTIONS turned on?  If so try with it off.

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	Dave Baukus <dbaukus@inetinc.com> wrote:


	Anybody see this problem before ?
	I get an invalid instruction in what appears to be timer1_interupt().

	I'm running 2.2.0 w/ the  pre-patch-2.2.0-final-19990123-3 patch
	on and ebsa285 (not Coprocessor). 

	Any clues appreciated

This looks a lot like a problem I had with binutils. Are you using 2.9.1.0.19a
with philb's latest patch applied ?

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>This looks a lot like a problem I had with binutils. Are you using 2.9.1.0.19a
>with philb's latest patch applied ?

That patch does seem to do more harm than good sometimes.  Some people have 
better luck with just plain 2.9.1.0.19a.

Hopefully we can get back in sync with gas2 fairly soon and this whole mess 
will go away.

p.


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Can we please put all virtual addresses into a single file. This was the
case in 2.1.132 but in 2.2.1 some virtual addresses have been put into
asm/dec21285.h which is (or should be) architecture independent.

To me asm/arch/hardware.h seems like the perfect candidate for all
virtual addresses since it already contains some of them.

greetings,

Mark.
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>To me asm/arch/hardware.h seems like the perfect candidate for all
>virtual addresses since it already contains some of them.

Sounds reasonable.  Other than wilful perversity I can't think of any reason 
why a particular port might want to map the CSRs at a different address to 
that which the others use, but I agree that as a matter of principle it 
probably ought to be done the way you suggest. :-)

p.




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	>To me asm/arch/hardware.h seems like the perfect candidate for all
	>virtual addresses since it already contains some of them.

	Sounds reasonable.  Other than wilful perversity I can't think
	of any reason why a particular port might want to map the CSRs
	at a different address to that which the others use, but I agree
	that as a matter of principle it probably ought to be done the
	way you suggest. :-)

In the co285 arch the kernel is mapped at 0x60000000, the address range
from 0x80000000 to 0xffffffff is used to access the PCI bus. I could of
course map the CSRs into this address range and then map some part of
the PCI space somewhere else, but I hope you agree with me that this
would be far more perverse :-)

Mark.
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>In the co285 arch the kernel is mapped at 0x60000000, the address range
>from 0x80000000 to 0xffffffff is used to access the PCI bus. I could of
>course map the CSRs into this address range and then map some part of
>the PCI space somewhere else, but I hope you agree with me that this
>would be far more perverse :-)

Yeah, OK. :-)

p.


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[Oops - my first attempt at posting this seems to have gone to
the wrong address. Sorry, Russell]

I've been 'lurking' on this list for a while now without
contributing, so I guess the first thing to do is say "hi". You
all seem to be discussing pretty low-level coding / conversion
issues, so I'm hoping what I want to ask isn't too simple!

A bit of background. I run Linux (heavily modified RH 5.1) on my
Intel box, and use HP-UX and AIX (plus NT - sigh!) at work. What
I really want to do is to install ARMLinux on my SA Risc PC. I
have the default 500Mb ADFS hard drive (almost full), plus a
CD-ROM drive, on the motherboard IDE interface. Last year I added
an APDL/Baildon Electronics IDE card, with a 2.1 Gb hard drive,
and so far I've not really been using it as much as I expected
to. So, once I felt more confident with Linux in general, I
cleared the drive, and decided to install ARM Linux from the Clan
CD.

Around Christmas I enquired on the Acorn newsgroups and
established that it should be possible to install to a drive on
an expansion card, - /dev/hdc in this case - and I was pointed in
the direction of you friendly, knowledgeable types for more
information. 

I've had huge problems getting the drive initialised with an
Ext2fs filesystem. !PartMan didn't want to know the drive
initially due to the IDEFS partition information on it. After
scrubbing various parts of the disc map with a disc editor I got
ADFS back to thinking it was unformatted, but the only way to
format it is to use the program which came with the card... which
essentially just writes more IDEFS information onto it. At one
stage I thought I'd succeeded in creating the right partitions,
but once I started the ARM Linux install (following Paul Vigay's
instructions) it became apparent that the partitions weren't
formatted correctly at all.

So - the 1 million Euro question - can I create the necessary
Linux partitions and install to this drive? I don't especially
want to go dismantling things, and move the extra hard drive to
where the CDROM drive currently is (although I realise that that
might give the CD drive better performance...!) - primarily
because I'm not sure I can juggle things so that the various
cables can reach to the new places.

Thanks for any advice.

-- 
Andy Piper                    andyp@argonet.co.uk
Fareham, Hampshire
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Hi,

I found the cause of the frequent address exceptions on my A5000 under 2.2.

What was happening was that the pte for a data page was disappearing but the 
mm area remained intact.  This meant that the next time the process faulted in 
that page the kernel thought it was an anonymous mapping and provided a zero 
page instead.  This tends to lead to a NULL dereference pretty quickly.

The root cause is an assumption in copy_page_range that pagetable structures 
are naturally aligned.  Because 26-bit machines have fake pagetables that 
aren't used by the hardware, this isn't necessarily true.  The logic that 
works out how large an area is by masking address bits was getting confused.

Things now seem a lot more stable.  I'll include a fix for this in my next 
kernel patch.

p.


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Subject: Re: a5k crash news
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Philip Blundell writes:
> The root cause is an assumption in copy_page_range that pagetable structures 
> are naturally aligned.  Because 26-bit machines have fake pagetables that 
> aren't used by the hardware, this isn't necessarily true.  The logic that 
> works out how large an area is by masking address bits was getting confused.

There's nothing wrong with this assumption.  Keep looking at the memory allocation
in the A5k and you'll find some more bits to clean up which will reduce kernel
memory usage dramatically (do we need 64k for the kernel stack and task_struct?)

You may want to try using the small_page stuff to allocate an 8k block from a 32k
page, for example.
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>Keep looking at the memory allocation in the A5k and you'll find some 
>more bits to clean up which will reduce kernel memory usage dramatically 
>(do we need 64k for the kernel stack and task_struct?)

Yes, I know about that.  My first priority (in as much as you can consider the 
A5000 a priority) is stability though.

p.


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