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linux 2.2.1 patched with patch-2.2.1-19990128-1, compiling for 
EBSA285.

christophe

make -C ../../../drivers/char
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/drivers/char'
make all_targets
make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/drivers/char'
/usr/local/bin/arm-linux-gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-
arm/include  -mapcs-32 -mshort-load-bytes -mcpu=strongarm110 -
Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2  -pipe   -c -o ds1620.o ds1620.c
ds1620.c: In function `netwinder_ds1620_set_clk':
ds1620.c:49: warning: implicit declaration of function 
`gpio_modify_op'
ds1620.c:49: `GPIO_DSCLK' undeclared (first use in this function)
ds1620.c:49: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
ds1620.c:49: for each function it appears in.)
ds1620.c: In function `netwinder_ds1620_set_data':
ds1620.c:54: `GPIO_DATA' undeclared (first use in this function)
ds1620.c: In function `netwinder_ds1620_get_data':
ds1620.c:59: warning: implicit declaration of function `gpio_read'
ds1620.c:59: `GPIO_DATA' undeclared (first use in this function)
ds1620.c:60: warning: control reaches end of non-void function
ds1620.c: In function `netwinder_ds1620_set_data_dir':
ds1620.c:64: warning: implicit declaration of function 
`gpio_modify_io'
ds1620.c:64: `GPIO_DATA' undeclared (first use in this function)
ds1620.c: In function `netwinder_ds1620_reset':
ds1620.c:69: warning: implicit declaration of function `cpld_modify'
ds1620.c:69: `CPLD_DSRESET' undeclared (first use in this 
function)
ds1620.c: In function `ds1620_ioctl':
ds1620.c:265: `GPIO_FAN' undeclared (first use in this function)
ds1620.c:220: warning: `i' might be used uninitialized in this 
function
make[3]: *** [ds1620.o] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/drivers/char'
make[2]: *** [first_rule] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/drivers/char'
make[1]: *** [_subdir_../../../drivers/char] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/arch/arm/drivers'
make: *** [_dir_arch/arm/drivers] Error 2

#
# Automatically generated by make menuconfig: don't edit
#
CONFIG_ARM=y

#
# System and processor type
#
# CONFIG_ARCH_ARC is not set
# CONFIG_ARCH_A5K is not set
# CONFIG_ARCH_RPC is not set
CONFIG_ARCH_EBSA110=y
# CONFIG_FOOTBRIDGE is not set
CONFIG_ARCH_EBSA285=y
# CONFIG_CATS is not set
CONFIG_ARCH_NETWINDER=y
# CONFIG_ARCH_ACORN is not set
CONFIG_ISA_DMA=y
CONFIG_CPU_32=y
# CONFIG_CPU_26 is not set
# CONFIG_CPU_ARM2 is not set
# CONFIG_CPU_ARM3 is not set
# CONFIG_CPU_ARM6 is not set
# CONFIG_CPU_ARM7 is not set
CONFIG_CPU_SA110=y

#
# Code maturity level options
#
CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL=y
# CONFIG_ALIGNMENT_TRAP is not set
CONFIG_TEXT_SECTIONS=y

#
# Loadable module support
#
CONFIG_MODULES=y
# CONFIG_MODVERSIONS is not set
CONFIG_KMOD=y

#
# General setup
#
CONFIG_NET=y
CONFIG_SYSVIPC=y
# CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT is not set
CONFIG_SYSCTL=y
CONFIG_BINFMT_AOUT=y
CONFIG_BINFMT_ELF=y
# CONFIG_BINFMT_MISC is not set
CONFIG_PARPORT=y
CONFIG_PARPORT_PC=y
CONFIG_CMDLINE="root=/dev/hda2 ro mem=32M 
parport=0x378,23 ide0=autotune"
CONFIG_LEDS=y
CONFIG_LEDS_TIMER=y
CONFIG_LEDS_CPU=y
# CONFIG_OLD_CONSOLE is not set

#
# Plug and Play support
#
# CONFIG_PNP is not set

#
# Block devices
#
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_FD is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD_ONLY is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=y
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_NBD is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_MD is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM=y
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_INITRD is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_XD is not set
CONFIG_PARIDE_PARPORT=y
# CONFIG_PARIDE is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD is not set

#
# Character devices
#
# CONFIG_VT is not set
CONFIG_SERIAL=y
CONFIG_SERIAL_CONSOLE=y
# CONFIG_SERIAL_EXTENDED is not set
# CONFIG_SERIAL_NONSTANDARD is not set
# CONFIG_UNIX98_PTYS is not set
CONFIG_PRINTER=y
CONFIG_PRINTER_READBACK=y
CONFIG_MOUSE=y

#
# Mice
#
# CONFIG_ATIXL_BUSMOUSE is not set
# CONFIG_BUSMOUSE is not set
# CONFIG_MS_BUSMOUSE is not set
CONFIG_PSMOUSE=y
# CONFIG_82C710_MOUSE is not set
# CONFIG_PC110_PAD is not set
# CONFIG_QIC02_TAPE is not set
# CONFIG_WATCHDOG is not set
CONFIG_DS1620=y
CONFIG_NWBUTTON=y
CONFIG_NWBUTTON_REBOOT=y
# CONFIG_NVRAM is not set
CONFIG_RTC=y

#
# Video For Linux
#
# CONFIG_VIDEO_DEV is not set

#
# Joystick support
#
# CONFIG_JOYSTICK is not set

#
# Ftape, the floppy tape device driver
#
# CONFIG_FTAPE is not set

#
# Networking options
#
CONFIG_PACKET=y
# CONFIG_NETLINK is not set
# CONFIG_FIREWALL is not set
CONFIG_NET_ALIAS=y
# CONFIG_FILTER is not set
CONFIG_UNIX=y
CONFIG_INET=y
# CONFIG_IP_MULTICAST is not set
# CONFIG_IP_ADVANCED_ROUTER is not set
# CONFIG_IP_PNP is not set
# CONFIG_IP_ROUTER is not set
# CONFIG_NET_IPIP is not set
# CONFIG_NET_IPGRE is not set
CONFIG_IP_ALIAS=y
CONFIG_SYN_COOKIES=y
# CONFIG_INET_RARP is not set
CONFIG_IP_NOSR=y
CONFIG_SKB_LARGE=y
# CONFIG_IPV6 is not set
# CONFIG_IPX is not set
# CONFIG_ATALK is not set
# CONFIG_X25 is not set
# CONFIG_LAPB is not set
# CONFIG_BRIDGE is not set
# CONFIG_LLC is not set
# CONFIG_ECONET is not set
# CONFIG_WAN_ROUTER is not set
# CONFIG_NET_FASTROUTE is not set
# CONFIG_NET_HW_FLOWCONTROL is not set
# CONFIG_CPU_IS_SLOW is not set

#
# QoS and/or fair queueing
#
# CONFIG_NET_SCHED is not set

#
# Amateur Radio support
#
# CONFIG_HAMRADIO is not set

#
# IrDA subsystem support
#
# CONFIG_IRDA is not set

#
# Network device support
#
CONFIG_NETDEVICES=y
# CONFIG_ARCNET is not set
# CONFIG_DUMMY is not set
# CONFIG_EQUALIZER is not set
CONFIG_NET_ETHERNET=y
# CONFIG_ARM_AM79C961A is not set
# CONFIG_NET_VENDOR_3COM is not set
# CONFIG_LANCE is not set
# CONFIG_NET_VENDOR_SMC is not set
# CONFIG_NET_VENDOR_RACAL is not set
# CONFIG_RTL8139 is not set
# CONFIG_YELLOWFIN is not set
# CONFIG_ACENIC is not set
# CONFIG_NET_ISA is not set
CONFIG_NET_EISA=y
# CONFIG_PCNET32 is not set
# CONFIG_AC3200 is not set
# CONFIG_APRICOT is not set
# CONFIG_CS89x0 is not set
# CONFIG_DE4X5 is not set
CONFIG_DEC_ELCP=y
# CONFIG_DGRS is not set
# CONFIG_EEXPRESS_PRO100 is not set
# CONFIG_LNE390 is not set
# CONFIG_NE3210 is not set
# CONFIG_NE2K_PCI is not set
# CONFIG_TLAN is not set
# CONFIG_VIA_RHINE is not set
# CONFIG_ES3210 is not set
# CONFIG_EPIC100 is not set
# CONFIG_ZNET is not set
# CONFIG_NET_POCKET is not set
# CONFIG_FDDI is not set
# CONFIG_HIPPI is not set
# CONFIG_DLCI is not set
# CONFIG_PLIP is not set
# CONFIG_PPP is not set
# CONFIG_SLIP is not set
# CONFIG_NET_RADIO is not set
# CONFIG_TR is not set
# CONFIG_SHAPER is not set
# CONFIG_HOSTESS_SV11 is not set
# CONFIG_COSA is not set
# CONFIG_RCPCI is not set

#
# SCSI support
#
# CONFIG_SCSI is not set

#
# Sound
#
# CONFIG_SOUND is not set

#
# Filesystems
#
# CONFIG_QUOTA is not set
# CONFIG_AUTOFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_ADFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_AFFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_HFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_FAT_FS is not set
CONFIG_MSDOS_FS=m
# CONFIG_UMSDOS_FS is not set
CONFIG_VFAT_FS=m
# CONFIG_ISO9660_FS is not set
# CONFIG_JOLIET is not set
# CONFIG_MINIX_FS is not set
# CONFIG_NTFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_HPFS_FS is not set
CONFIG_PROC_FS=y
# CONFIG_QNX4FS_FS is not set
CONFIG_ROMFS_FS=y
CONFIG_EXT2_FS=y
# CONFIG_SYSV_FS is not set
# CONFIG_UFS_FS is not set

#
# Network File Systems
#
# CONFIG_CODA_FS is not set
CONFIG_NFS_FS=y
CONFIG_NFSD=m
# CONFIG_NFSD_SUN is not set
CONFIG_SUNRPC=y
CONFIG_LOCKD=y
# CONFIG_SMB_FS is not set
# CONFIG_NCP_FS is not set

#
# Partition Types
#
# CONFIG_BSD_DISKLABEL is not set
# CONFIG_MAC_PARTITION is not set
# CONFIG_SMD_DISKLABEL is not set
# CONFIG_SOLARIS_X86_PARTITION is not set
# CONFIG_UNIXWARE_DISKLABEL is not set
# CONFIG_NLS is not set

#
# Kernel hacking
#
CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER=y
CONFIG_DEBUG_ERRORS=y
# CONFIG_DEBUG_USER is not set
# CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO is not set
CONFIG_MAGIC_SYSRQ=y
# CONFIG_ARTHUR is not set

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There's a new kernel patch in my directory on ftp.netwinder.org.

Not all of the stuff in here is strictly ready for prime time yet, so treat it 
as experimental rather than directly suitable for the "stable" kernels.  A 
fair chunk of the stuff that really *is* stable from this patch is now sitting 
in Russell's incoming directory and some more will be following shortly.

This patch renumbers the ISA irqs as I proposed previously, since there 
weren't any objections other than aesthetic ones.  This is now in line with 
the current state of the art in 2.0 kernels for the NetWinder.  We'll see how 
it goes; this can always be undone again later if it turns out to be a 
problem.

There have also been some changes to the configuration system and startup 
code.  The CPU type selection and related stuff should work a bit better now 
and setup.c is slightly cleaner.  Also it ought to be able to tell the 
difference between the Archimedes and the EBSA-110 now.  See what you think.

The code to make vfork work again is provided, but I pulled out the actual 
definition of the syscall from the patch.  I'd like to hear Russell's 
opinion on this first.

Oh, and NWFPE supports 26-bit cpus now.

As ever, see CHANGES.philb for the full list of contents.

p.


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The ARMulator (as the ARM chips) as signal, if a seqeuntial or non-sequential 
memory access is requested. I found a strange behavior in armulator

The program basically writes a string (hello world) to the console:

HelloW
+0000 0x00008080: 0xe28f1010  .... :    add      r1,pc,#0x10
LOOP
+0000 0x00008084: 0xe4d10001  .... :    ldrb     r0,[r1],#1
+0004 0x00008088: 0xe3500000  ..P. :    cmp      r0,#0
+0008 0x0000808c: 0x1f000000  .... :    swine    0x0
+000c 0x00008090: 0x1afffffb  .... :    bne      LOOP
+0010 0x00008094: 0xef000011  .... : >  swi      0x11
Text
+0000 0x00008098: 0x6c6c6548  Hell :    stcvsl   p5,c6,[r12],#-0x120
+0004 0x0000809c: 0x6f57206f  o Wo :    swivs    0x57206f
+0008 0x000080a0: 0x0a646c72  rld. :    beq      0x1923270


The address trace of this part is given below. The Load Byte is called delayed 
due to the pipeline (as the reading of 8094 and 8098. But the strange thing is 
that the instruction after the ldrb is a sequential cycle (8090). Does anybody 
know why is this? Thanks.


00008084 (Load Instruction - non-sequential cycle)
00008088 (Load Instruction - sequential cycle)
0000808C (Load Instruction - sequential cycle)
000080A3 (Load Byte - non - sequential cycle)
00008090 (Load Instruction - sequential cycle)
00008094 (Load Instruction - sequential cycle)
00008098 (Load Instruction - sequential cycle)
00008084 (Load Instruction - non-sequential cycle)
00008088 (Load Instruction - sequential cycle)
0000808C (Load Instruction - sequential cycle)
000080A4 (Load Byte - non - sequential cycle)
00008090 (Load Instruction - sequential cycle)
00008094 (Load Instruction - sequential cycle)
00008098 (Load Instruction - sequential cycle)
00008084 (Load Instruction - non-sequential cycle)
00008088 (Load Instruction - sequential cycle)
0000808C (Load Instruction - sequential cycle)
000080A5 (Load Byte - non - sequential cycle)
00008090 (Load Instruction - sequential cycle)
00008094 (Load Instruction - sequential cycle)
00008098 (Load Instruction - sequential cycle)
0000809C (Load Instruction - sequential cycle)

-- 
Rainer Dorsch
Abt. Rechnerarchitektur  e-mail:rainer.dorsch@informatik.uni-stuttgart.de
Uni Stuttgart            Tel.: 0711-7816-215


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Does anyone know if the following drivers are available for Brutus (or any
other SA platform):

-	PCMCIA Ethernet adapters
-	PCMCIA Compact flash
-	PCMCIA Audio cards

Thanks,

Jason

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In <URL:news:local.armlinux> on Sun 31 Jan, Andy Piper wrote:

[snip]
> I've had huge problems getting the drive initialised with an Ext2fs
> filesystem. !PartMan didn't want to know the drive initially due to the
> IDEFS partition information on it. After scrubbing various parts of the
> disc map with a disc editor I got ADFS back to thinking it was
> unformatted, but the only way to format it is to use the program which
> came with the card... which essentially just writes more IDEFS information
> onto it.

You do want ICS-type IDEFS partitions on your hard disc, so that isn't a
problem (otherwise you can't have Filecore partitions on the same disc). 
Are you using the latest alpha version of PartMan (from the ftp site)?


> At one stage I thought I'd succeeded in creating the right partitions, but
> once I started the ARM Linux install (following Paul Vigay's instructions)
> it became apparent that the partitions weren't formatted correctly at all.

PartMan doesn't do any formatting; it just creates a partition table.  The
install program should create an ext2 filesystem on the partition.

If you're following Paul Vigay's instructions to the letter (of the copy
I've got, anyway), they won't work with an ICS/Baildon interface.  You need
to supply the right magic numbers to mknod.  The install program should be
able to do this for you -- if you say yes when it asks you if you want to
create a filesystem on /dev/hdcX (where X is your partition number), does it
work?

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christophe.leroy5@capway.com writes:
> #
> # Automatically generated by make menuconfig: don't edit
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> 
> #
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> #
> # CONFIG_ARCH_ARC is not set
> # CONFIG_ARCH_A5K is not set
> # CONFIG_ARCH_RPC is not set
> CONFIG_ARCH_EBSA110=y
> # CONFIG_FOOTBRIDGE is not set
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How the hell did you manage that?  That's invalid!  The EBSA110 architecture
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Andy Piper wrote:
> 
> [Oops - my first attempt at posting this seems to have gone to
> the wrong address. Sorry, Russell]
> 
> I've been 'lurking' on this list for a while now without
> contributing, so I guess the first thing to do is say "hi". You
> all seem to be discussing pretty low-level coding / conversion
> issues, so I'm hoping what I want to ask isn't too simple!
> 
> A bit of background. I run Linux (heavily modified RH 5.1) on my
> Intel box, and use HP-UX and AIX (plus NT - sigh!) at work. What
> I really want to do is to install ARMLinux on my SA Risc PC. I
> have the default 500Mb ADFS hard drive (almost full), plus a
> CD-ROM drive, on the motherboard IDE interface. Last year I added
> an APDL/Baildon Electronics IDE card, with a 2.1 Gb hard drive,
> and so far I've not really been using it as much as I expected
> to. So, once I felt more confident with Linux in general, I
> cleared the drive, and decided to install ARM Linux from the Clan
> CD.
> 
> Around Christmas I enquired on the Acorn newsgroups and
> established that it should be possible to install to a drive on
> an expansion card, - /dev/hdc in this case - and I was pointed in
> the direction of you friendly, knowledgeable types for more
> information.
> 
> I've had huge problems getting the drive initialised with an
> Ext2fs filesystem. !PartMan didn't want to know the drive
> initially due to the IDEFS partition information on it. After
> scrubbing various parts of the disc map with a disc editor I got
> ADFS back to thinking it was unformatted, but the only way to
> format it is to use the program which came with the card... which
> essentially just writes more IDEFS information onto it. At one
> stage I thought I'd succeeded in creating the right partitions,
> but once I started the ARM Linux install (following Paul Vigay's
> instructions) it became apparent that the partitions weren't
> formatted correctly at all.
> 
> So - the 1 million Euro question - can I create the necessary
> Linux partitions and install to this drive? I don't especially
> want to go dismantling things, and move the extra hard drive to
> where the CDROM drive currently is (although I realise that that
> might give the CD drive better performance...!) - primarily
> because I'm not sure I can juggle things so that the various
> cables can reach to the new places.
> 
> Thanks for any advice.
> 
> --
> Andy Piper                    andyp@argonet.co.uk
> Fareham, Hampshire
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I have a similar configuration with a second drive (hdc) on an ICS/baildon
card in my RPC 600. The problem I had was that it proved impossible to create
the Linux partition table with any version of Partman.

The solution was to write a small basic program to delete sector 0 (removing
the ICS start and size records for multiple 'logical' drives) and to write an
empty Linux partition table. The program, heavily copied from parts of other
peoples code, is attached. I make no guarantees to its correctness but I
believe it is safe to use if the prompts are followed correctly. 

Having fixed that, Partman is used to add the Linux native and swap partitions
and the rest of the installation can proceed normally but painfully compared
with a Red Hat install on a PC. 

The method, if I remember, is this:

Follow the Phil Norman method for installation from the Clan CD except:

a) Reformat your drive with the appropriate ICS/Bialdon tool to the size you
need for the ADFS partition alone making a note of the last ADFS cylinder
number and the total number of cylinders, b) Use my program to initialise the
linux partition table - partition '2',c) Create the remaining linux partitions
native '2' and swap '3' with Partman.

The parameters for mknod have to change, and the 3 lines after, as follows:

mknod /dev/hdc3 b 22 3
mke2fs /dev/hdc3
mkdir hd
mount -t ext2 /dev/hdc3 hd


[the mknod syntax is 
mknod [options] filename {bcu} major minor

where 'b' in our case is for a 'b'lock file
major is 22 for ide1 (3 for ide0 to which hda is attached)
minor as decribed by Phil Norman - 3 in this case.]

After the Phil Norman instal I hit a couple of problems as I remember and here
you need to have the FAQ at hand:

1/ I had the >24MB DRAM problem. Solution download the latest modules package
(modules-2.0.0-5a3.arm.rpm or later). Best do this before installation ideally.
2/ I had the 'invalid bmap magic' problem - follow the FAQ here.


Hope this helps.

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My armulator was configured for the 7TDMI (BTW, can it simulate processors 
with cache?). I did not stress enough: I am not surprised from the sequence of 
addresses (which is clearly affected by the pipeline) but the sequential 
memory access signal from the ARM after the data was loaded.

Rainer.

> Hi,
> 
>   You are probably seeing a cache line fill and/or simple read ahead since
>   the Program Counter is ahead of the execute pipeline.
> 
> Bob Kondner
> 
> Rainer Dorsch wrote:
> 
> > The ARMulator (as the ARM chips) as signal, if a seqeuntial or non-sequential
> > memory access is requested. I found a strange behavior in armulator
> >
> > The program basically writes a string (hello world) to the console:
> >
> > HelloW
> > +0000 0x00008080: 0xe28f1010  .... :    add      r1,pc,#0x10
> > LOOP
> > +0000 0x00008084: 0xe4d10001  .... :    ldrb     r0,[r1],#1
> > +0004 0x00008088: 0xe3500000  ..P. :    cmp      r0,#0
> > +0008 0x0000808c: 0x1f000000  .... :    swine    0x0
> > +000c 0x00008090: 0x1afffffb  .... :    bne      LOOP
> > +0010 0x00008094: 0xef000011  .... : >  swi      0x11
> > Text
> > +0000 0x00008098: 0x6c6c6548  Hell :    stcvsl   p5,c6,[r12],#-0x120
> > +0004 0x0000809c: 0x6f57206f  o Wo :    swivs    0x57206f
> > +0008 0x000080a0: 0x0a646c72  rld. :    beq      0x1923270
> >
> > The address trace of this part is given below. The Load Byte is called delayed
> > due to the pipeline (as the reading of 8094 and 8098. But the strange thing is
> > that the instruction after the ldrb is a sequential cycle (8090). Does anybody
> > know why is this? Thanks.
> >
> > 00008084 (Load Instruction - non-sequential cycle)
> > 00008088 (Load Instruction - sequential cycle)
> > 0000808C (Load Instruction - sequential cycle)
> > 000080A3 (Load Byte - non - sequential cycle)
> > 00008090 (Load Instruction - sequential cycle)
> > 00008094 (Load Instruction - sequential cycle)
> > 00008098 (Load Instruction - sequential cycle)
> > 00008084 (Load Instruction - non-sequential cycle)
> > 00008088 (Load Instruction - sequential cycle)
> > 0000808C (Load Instruction - sequential cycle)
> > 000080A4 (Load Byte - non - sequential cycle)
> > 00008090 (Load Instruction - sequential cycle)
> > 00008094 (Load Instruction - sequential cycle)
> > 00008098 (Load Instruction - sequential cycle)
> > 00008084 (Load Instruction - non-sequential cycle)
> > 00008088 (Load Instruction - sequential cycle)
> > 0000808C (Load Instruction - sequential cycle)
> > 000080A5 (Load Byte - non - sequential cycle)
> > 00008090 (Load Instruction - sequential cycle)
> > 00008094 (Load Instruction - sequential cycle)
> > 00008098 (Load Instruction - sequential cycle)
> > 0000809C (Load Instruction - sequential cycle)
> >
> > --
> > Rainer Dorsch
> > Abt. Rechnerarchitektur  e-mail:rainer.dorsch@informatik.uni-stuttgart.de
> > Uni Stuttgart            Tel.: 0711-7816-215
> >
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-- 
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> christophe.leroy5@capway.com writes:
> > #
> > # Automatically generated by make menuconfig: don't edit
> > #
> > CONFIG_ARM=y
> > 
> > #
> > # System and processor type
> > #
> > # CONFIG_ARCH_ARC is not set
> > # CONFIG_ARCH_A5K is not set
> > # CONFIG_ARCH_RPC is not set
> > CONFIG_ARCH_EBSA110=y
> > # CONFIG_FOOTBRIDGE is not set
> > CONFIG_ARCH_EBSA285=y
> 
> How the hell did you manage that?  That's invalid!  The EBSA110 architecture
> is /not/ EBSA285.  You want 'Footbridge'.

Thinks, it seems to be a bug in menuconfig: Choose 
FOOTBRIDGE: 
new options come. Then choose EBSA110, options dont go.
Exit menuconfig, then relaunch it: extra options have disappeared.

This time, here's the problem:

make all_targets
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/fs'
/usr/local/bin/arm-linux-gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-
arm/include  -mapcs-32 -mshort-load-bytes -mcpu=strongarm110 -
Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2  -pipe   -c -o binfmt_elf.o binfmt_elf.c
binfmt_elf.c: In function `load_elf_interp':
binfmt_elf.c:231: invalid type argument of `->'
binfmt_elf.c: In function `do_load_elf_binary':
binfmt_elf.c:434: invalid type argument of `->'
binfmt_elf.c: In function `do_load_elf_library':
binfmt_elf.c:841: invalid type argument of `->'
make[2]: *** [binfmt_elf.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/fs'
make[1]: *** [first_rule] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/fs'
make: *** [_dir_fs] Error 2

#
# Automatically generated by make menuconfig: don't edit
#
CONFIG_ARM=y

#
# System and processor type
#
# CONFIG_ARCH_ARC is not set
# CONFIG_ARCH_A5K is not set
# CONFIG_ARCH_RPC is not set
# CONFIG_ARCH_EBSA110 is not set
CONFIG_FOOTBRIDGE=y
CONFIG_HOST_FOOTBRIDGE=y
# CONFIG_ADDIN_FOOTBRIDGE is not set
CONFIG_ARCH_EBSA285=y
# CONFIG_CATS is not set
CONFIG_ARCH_NETWINDER=y
# CONFIG_ARCH_ACORN is not set
CONFIG_PCI=y
CONFIG_ISA_DMA=y
CONFIG_CPU_32=y
# CONFIG_CPU_26 is not set
# CONFIG_CPU_ARM2 is not set
# CONFIG_CPU_ARM3 is not set
# CONFIG_CPU_ARM6 is not set
# CONFIG_CPU_ARM7 is not set
CONFIG_CPU_SA110=y

#
# Code maturity level options
#
CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL=y
# CONFIG_ALIGNMENT_TRAP is not set
CONFIG_TEXT_SECTIONS=y

#
# Loadable module support
#
CONFIG_MODULES=y
# CONFIG_MODVERSIONS is not set
CONFIG_KMOD=y

#
# General setup
#
CONFIG_NET=y
CONFIG_SYSVIPC=y
# CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT is not set
CONFIG_SYSCTL=y
CONFIG_BINFMT_AOUT=y
CONFIG_BINFMT_ELF=y
# CONFIG_BINFMT_MISC is not set
CONFIG_PARPORT=y
CONFIG_PARPORT_PC=y
CONFIG_CMDLINE="root=/dev/hda2 ro mem=32M 
parport=0x378,23 ide0=autotune"
CONFIG_LEDS=y
CONFIG_LEDS_TIMER=y
CONFIG_LEDS_CPU=y
# CONFIG_OLD_CONSOLE is not set

#
# Plug and Play support
#
# CONFIG_PNP is not set

#
# Block devices
#
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_FD is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD_ONLY is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=y
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_NBD is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_MD is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM=y
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_INITRD is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_XD is not set
CONFIG_PARIDE_PARPORT=y
# CONFIG_PARIDE is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD is not set

#
# Character devices
#
# CONFIG_VT is not set
# CONFIG_SERIAL is not set
# CONFIG_SERIAL_EXTENDED is not set
# CONFIG_SERIAL_NONSTANDARD is not set
CONFIG_SERIAL_21285=y
CONFIG_SERIAL_21285_CONSOLE=y
# CONFIG_UNIX98_PTYS is not set
CONFIG_PRINTER=y
CONFIG_PRINTER_READBACK=y
CONFIG_MOUSE=y

#
# Mice
#
# CONFIG_ATIXL_BUSMOUSE is not set
# CONFIG_BUSMOUSE is not set
# CONFIG_MS_BUSMOUSE is not set
CONFIG_PSMOUSE=y
# CONFIG_82C710_MOUSE is not set
# CONFIG_PC110_PAD is not set
# CONFIG_QIC02_TAPE is not set
# CONFIG_WATCHDOG is not set
# CONFIG_DS1620 is not set
# CONFIG_NWBUTTON is not set
# CONFIG_NVRAM is not set
CONFIG_RTC=y

#
# Video For Linux
#
# CONFIG_VIDEO_DEV is not set

#
# Joystick support
#
# CONFIG_JOYSTICK is not set

#
# Ftape, the floppy tape device driver
#
# CONFIG_FTAPE is not set

#
# Networking options
#
CONFIG_PACKET=y
# CONFIG_NETLINK is not set
# CONFIG_FIREWALL is not set
CONFIG_NET_ALIAS=y
# CONFIG_FILTER is not set
CONFIG_UNIX=y
CONFIG_INET=y
# CONFIG_IP_MULTICAST is not set
# CONFIG_IP_ADVANCED_ROUTER is not set
# CONFIG_IP_PNP is not set
# CONFIG_IP_ROUTER is not set
# CONFIG_NET_IPIP is not set
# CONFIG_NET_IPGRE is not set
CONFIG_IP_ALIAS=y
CONFIG_SYN_COOKIES=y
# CONFIG_INET_RARP is not set
CONFIG_IP_NOSR=y
CONFIG_SKB_LARGE=y
# CONFIG_IPV6 is not set
# CONFIG_IPX is not set
# CONFIG_ATALK is not set
# CONFIG_X25 is not set
# CONFIG_LAPB is not set
# CONFIG_BRIDGE is not set
# CONFIG_LLC is not set
# CONFIG_ECONET is not set
# CONFIG_WAN_ROUTER is not set
# CONFIG_NET_FASTROUTE is not set
# CONFIG_NET_HW_FLOWCONTROL is not set
# CONFIG_CPU_IS_SLOW is not set

#
# QoS and/or fair queueing
#
# CONFIG_NET_SCHED is not set

#
# Amateur Radio support
#
# CONFIG_HAMRADIO is not set

#
# IrDA subsystem support
#
# CONFIG_IRDA is not set

#
# Network device support
#
CONFIG_NETDEVICES=y
# CONFIG_ARCNET is not set
# CONFIG_DUMMY is not set
# CONFIG_EQUALIZER is not set
CONFIG_NET_ETHERNET=y
# CONFIG_ARM_AM79C961A is not set
# CONFIG_NET_VENDOR_3COM is not set
# CONFIG_LANCE is not set
# CONFIG_NET_VENDOR_SMC is not set
# CONFIG_NET_VENDOR_RACAL is not set
# CONFIG_RTL8139 is not set
# CONFIG_YELLOWFIN is not set
# CONFIG_ACENIC is not set
# CONFIG_NET_ISA is not set
CONFIG_NET_EISA=y
# CONFIG_PCNET32 is not set
# CONFIG_AC3200 is not set
# CONFIG_APRICOT is not set
# CONFIG_CS89x0 is not set
# CONFIG_DE4X5 is not set
CONFIG_DEC_ELCP=y
# CONFIG_DGRS is not set
# CONFIG_EEXPRESS_PRO100 is not set
# CONFIG_LNE390 is not set
# CONFIG_NE3210 is not set
# CONFIG_NE2K_PCI is not set
# CONFIG_TLAN is not set
# CONFIG_VIA_RHINE is not set
# CONFIG_ES3210 is not set
# CONFIG_EPIC100 is not set
# CONFIG_ZNET is not set
# CONFIG_NET_POCKET is not set
# CONFIG_FDDI is not set
# CONFIG_HIPPI is not set
# CONFIG_DLCI is not set
# CONFIG_PLIP is not set
# CONFIG_PPP is not set
# CONFIG_SLIP is not set
# CONFIG_NET_RADIO is not set
# CONFIG_TR is not set
# CONFIG_SHAPER is not set
# CONFIG_HOSTESS_SV11 is not set
# CONFIG_COSA is not set
# CONFIG_RCPCI is not set

#
# SCSI support
#
# CONFIG_SCSI is not set

#
# Sound
#
# CONFIG_SOUND is not set

#
# Filesystems
#
# CONFIG_QUOTA is not set
# CONFIG_AUTOFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_ADFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_AFFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_HFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_FAT_FS is not set
CONFIG_MSDOS_FS=m
# CONFIG_UMSDOS_FS is not set
CONFIG_VFAT_FS=m
# CONFIG_ISO9660_FS is not set
# CONFIG_JOLIET is not set
# CONFIG_MINIX_FS is not set
# CONFIG_NTFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_HPFS_FS is not set
CONFIG_PROC_FS=y
# CONFIG_QNX4FS_FS is not set
CONFIG_ROMFS_FS=y
CONFIG_EXT2_FS=y
# CONFIG_SYSV_FS is not set
# CONFIG_UFS_FS is not set

#
# Network File Systems
#
# CONFIG_CODA_FS is not set
CONFIG_NFS_FS=y
CONFIG_NFSD=m
# CONFIG_NFSD_SUN is not set
CONFIG_SUNRPC=y
CONFIG_LOCKD=y
# CONFIG_SMB_FS is not set
# CONFIG_NCP_FS is not set

#
# Partition Types
#
# CONFIG_BSD_DISKLABEL is not set
# CONFIG_MAC_PARTITION is not set
# CONFIG_SMD_DISKLABEL is not set
# CONFIG_SOLARIS_X86_PARTITION is not set
# CONFIG_UNIXWARE_DISKLABEL is not set
# CONFIG_NLS is not set

#
# Kernel hacking
#
CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER=y
CONFIG_DEBUG_ERRORS=y
# CONFIG_DEBUG_USER is not set
# CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO is not set
CONFIG_MAGIC_SYSRQ=y
# CONFIG_ARTHUR is not set

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> I have a similar configuration with a second drive (hdc) on an ICS/baildon
> card in my RPC 600. The problem I had was that it proved impossible to create
> the Linux partition table with any version of Partman.
> 
> The solution was to write a small basic program to delete sector 0 (removing
> the ICS start and size records for multiple 'logical' drives) and to write an
> empty Linux partition table. The program, heavily copied from parts of other
> peoples code, is attached. I make no guarantees to its correctness but I
> believe it is safe to use if the prompts are followed correctly. 
> 
> Having fixed that, Partman is used to add the Linux native and swap partitions
> and the rest of the installation can proceed normally but painfully compared
> with a Red Hat install on a PC. 
> 
> The method, if I remember, is this:
> 
> Follow the Phil Norman method for installation from the Clan CD except:
> 
> a) Reformat your drive with the appropriate ICS/Bialdon tool to the size you
> need for the ADFS partition alone making a note of the last ADFS cylinder
> number and the total number of cylinders, b) Use my program to initialise the
> linux partition table - partition '2',c) Create the remaining linux partitions
> native '2' and swap '3' with Partman.
> 
> The parameters for mknod have to change, and the 3 lines after, as follows:
> 
> mknod /dev/hdc3 b 22 3
> mke2fs /dev/hdc3
> mkdir hd
> mount -t ext2 /dev/hdc3 hd
> 
> 
> [the mknod syntax is 
> mknod [options] filename {bcu} major minor
> 
> where 'b' in our case is for a 'b'lock file
> major is 22 for ide1 (3 for ide0 to which hda is attached)
> minor as decribed by Phil Norman - 3 in this case.]
> 
> After the Phil Norman instal I hit a couple of problems as I remember and here
> you need to have the FAQ at hand:
> 
> 1/ I had the >24MB DRAM problem. Solution download the latest modules package
> (modules-2.0.0-5a3.arm.rpm or later). Best do this before installation ideally.
> 2/ I had the 'invalid bmap magic' problem - follow the FAQ here.
 
 
Would this work with simtec's idefs card?

just curious,

matt

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>/usr/local/bin/arm-linux-gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-
>arm/include  -mapcs-32 -mshort-load-bytes -mcpu=strongarm110 -
>Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2  -pipe   -c -o binfmt_elf.o binfmt_elf.c
>binfmt_elf.c: In function `load_elf_interp':
>binfmt_elf.c:231: invalid type argument of `->'
>binfmt_elf.c: In function `do_load_elf_binary':
>binfmt_elf.c:434: invalid type argument of `->'
>binfmt_elf.c: In function `do_load_elf_library':
>binfmt_elf.c:841: invalid type argument of `->'

That looks like you've somehow got a mismatch between your header files and 
your kernel source.  But I don't see how it could have happened.

p.


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My apologies if this problem has already been discussed and resolved, but I
missed a fair number of postings when the mailing list was 'reset' last week.


In message <Pine.LNX.3.96.990128214304.31528B-100000@pinga.doc.ic.ac.uk> you 
wrote:

> Hi, I'm having a problem getting armlinux running on a
> RPC700 with StrongArm(200MHz), I've got the following
> disks:
> 
> IDE: 800MB ADFS
> SCSI: 4GB disk - PowerTec Fast SCSI II card
> +CD ROM, Floppy and Parallel Port Disk Drive.
> i3 EtherH 600 card
> 
> I initially had some problems with partman, but eventually got round
> them by using the !PowerMgr software for the SCSI card to create 2 empty
> partitions, which I then designated as Linux Native (1761MB)  and Swap
> (127MB), these were at the end of the drive.
> 
> I ran the installer, it was able to recognize the SCSI card, the Network
> card and the PPA Zip drive (all on autoprobe) and I was able to specify
> /dev/sda4 as root partition and /dev/sda5 as swap. Installing from the
> Zip disk (/dev/sdb?, something) it seemed to successfully install....
> 
> ---- Snipped

Hi Richard,

Basically, I had exactly the same problem trying to install Linux on my
RPC600 + StrongARM + Powertek SCSI II + SyJet 1.5GB.  From my experiences, 
I had to deduce that there is no SCSI support in the install Kernel, and it 
has to be loaded as a module during boot up.  Unfortunately, if your system 
is all on a SCSI drive, it can't get to the module (or the Kernel if you 
attempt a normal boot). The installation process presumably has a copy of 
the module in it somewhere, which is loaded in by the installer, hence you 
can install the system on the drive in the first place, but not use it. :-(

The only solution I've found is to have a small 'boot' installation on a
partition on the IDE drive, with extra partitions on the SCSI drive for 
'usr' and 'var' If I remember correctly.  Then you need to compile a kernel 
with built in SCSI support for the Powertek card.  You should then be able 
to boot up the system if you keep the kernel on an ADFS partition and use 
the -bootkernel option.

I attempted this, and re-compiled the kernel without problems. However, If I
select to include Powertek SCSI support within the kernel, the kernel fails 
to succesfully access the SCSI hardware on boot-up, and gets stuck in a loop 
trying.  If I select to load the support as modules, it keeps complaining 
about the modules being the wrong version.  Its a little while ago, so I 
don't remember all the details.  But suffice to say, after I tried 
everything I could think of I put it to one side, to come back to when I had 
more time. I was using the old clan disk RedHat distribution, with the 
latest installation kernels and boot discs off the Linux site. 

<plug for help>
Perhaps someone else out there has had similar problems and can guess where 
I went wrong?
</plug>

If you get it to work, I'd be interested in hearing from you!

Chris

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>with cache?). I did not stress enough: I am not surprised from the sequence
>of addresses (which is clearly affected by the pipeline) but the sequential 
>memory access signal from the ARM after the data was loaded.

It could simply be a bug in the ARMulator.  I can't find my ARM7 data sheet 
right now so I'm not sure what the exact semantics for SEQ are supposed to 
be (the SA110 has a slightly different, and essentially pretty useless, 
meaning for this pin).

>> You are probably seeing a cache line fill and/or simple read ahead since
>> the Program Counter is ahead of the execute pipeline.

>>> 00008084 (Load Instruction - non-sequential cycle)
>>> 00008088 (Load Instruction - sequential cycle)
>>> 0000808C (Load Instruction - sequential cycle)
>>> 000080A3 (Load Byte - non - sequential cycle)
>>> 00008090 (Load Instruction - sequential cycle)
>>> 00008094 (Load Instruction - sequential cycle)
>>> 00008098 (Load Instruction - sequential cycle)
>>> 00008084 (Load Instruction - non-sequential cycle)

A cache fill would start at 0x8080 and run all the way up to 0x808c without 
interruption.  Also if the Icache was enabled the cpu wouldn't re-fetch the 
loop instructions.  So that doesn't look like it's what's happening.

p.


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Hi,

Thanks David for the IDEFS instructions. I had spent ages trying to figure
out why PartMan refuses to play with IDEFS disks - in the end I went back
to the internal interface. Oddly enough a disk formatted by ADFS and then
attached to the Baildon card still wouldn't play with PartMan at which
point I gave up!! I suppose the solution is to find why PartMan won't talk
to IDEFS.

regards

John Joyce


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I just bought an HP Jornada 820. 
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Hi !

> >/usr/local/bin/arm-linux-gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-
> >arm/include  -mapcs-32 -mshort-load-bytes -mcpu=strongarm110 -
> >Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2  -pipe   -c -o binfmt_elf.o binfmt_elf.c
> >binfmt_elf.c: In function `load_elf_interp':
> >binfmt_elf.c:231: invalid type argument of `->'
> >binfmt_elf.c: In function `do_load_elf_binary':
> >binfmt_elf.c:434: invalid type argument of `->'
> >binfmt_elf.c: In function `do_load_elf_library':
> >binfmt_elf.c:841: invalid type argument of `->'
>
> That looks like you've somehow got a mismatch between your header files and
> your kernel source.  But I don't see how it could have happened.
>
> p.

I have got the same problem and my only solution so far is to compile the
kernel without ELF support.........

Greets,
Chris

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John Joyce said:
> Thanks David for the IDEFS instructions. I had spent ages trying to figure
> out why PartMan refuses to play with IDEFS disks - in the end I went back
> to the internal interface. Oddly enough a disk formatted by ADFS and then
> attached to the Baildon card still wouldn't play with PartMan at which
> point I gave up!! I suppose the solution is to find why PartMan won't talk
> to IDEFS.

Has anyone been trying the Alpha Partition Managers?  If so, I haven't
really had any feedback on them, and as such no work has been done on
them for about 4 months or so now.

The Alpha Partition managers purposely have the writeback of the
edited partition information switched off so that you don't go corrupting
your hard drives (maybe this is a mistake, but I thought that it might
mean that more people would be willing to try it).

Anyway, if you could try the /latest/ Alpha PartMan out, and detail the
structure you're trying to create on your drive (along with how you
created it), and then email this and the debug file (Pipe:$.C_Debug)
as described in the Debug Info window, then I'll see about enabling
the various other bits so that there is a fully working PartMan available.

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Chris Nelson said:
> In message <Pine.LNX.3.96.990128214304.31528B-100000@pinga.doc.ic.ac.uk> you 
> wrote:
> > I ran the installer, it was able to recognize the SCSI card, the Network
> > card and the PPA Zip drive (all on autoprobe) and I was able to specify
> > /dev/sda4 as root partition and /dev/sda5 as swap. Installing from the
> > Zip disk (/dev/sdb?, something) it seemed to successfully install....
> 
> Basically, I had exactly the same problem trying to install Linux on my
> RPC600 + StrongARM + Powertek SCSI II + SyJet 1.5GB.  From my experiences, 
> I had to deduce that there is no SCSI support in the install Kernel, and it 
> has to be loaded as a module during boot up.  Unfortunately, if your system 
> is all on a SCSI drive, it can't get to the module (or the Kernel if you 
> attempt a normal boot). The installation process presumably has a copy of 
> the module in it somewhere, which is loaded in by the installer, hence you 
> can install the system on the drive in the first place, but not use it. :-(

There is a solution, and it's sitting on a CD Image on my machine.  It's
a fully populated RedHat CD ROM for ARM Linux.

Some of you may remember that I asked a while ago for volenteers to try out
a CD ROM.  At the time, I said that I would only produce ONE test CD F.O.C.
I sent it to this guy (in Hampshire, UK), and haven't heard any feedback
on the CD since, dispite me mailing the guy several times.  (and he's
probably reading this email).

Consequently, I've done very little with the CD image, and am wondering
why I even bothered creating it in the first place.

[sorry, but I'm still getting annoyed at the all-take attitude of some
 people on here, which is why I tend to be overly protective of ARM Linux.
 No flames directed at anyone in particular].

--
Russell King (rmk@milldev.demon.co.uk)

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Russell King wrote:
> There is a solution, and it's sitting on a CD Image on my machine.  It's
> a fully populated RedHat CD ROM for ARM Linux.

Why don't you just put it somewhere for FTP ? There are many people who own
CD writers these days ... (okay, you'll get a ton of "can anybody burn that
CD for me" requests on the mailing list, but deleting them is probably still
faster than bringing a single CD to the post office yourself ;-)

- Werner

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> >/usr/local/bin/arm-linux-gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-
> >arm/include  -mapcs-32 -mshort-load-bytes -mcpu=strongarm110 -
> >Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2  -pipe   -c -o binfmt_elf.o binfmt_elf.c
> >binfmt_elf.c: In function `load_elf_interp':
> >binfmt_elf.c:231: invalid type argument of `->'

>I have got the same problem and my only solution so far is to compile the
>kernel without ELF support.........

Can you mail me the output of

/usr/local/bin/arm-linux-gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/include  
-E binfmt_elf.c

p.


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2.2.1 is rather prone to going completely belly-up when a task does something 
wrong.  I think something like the following patch may help.

p.

--- clean/linux/arch/arm/kernel/entry-common.S	Fri Jan 29 11:46:31 1999
+++ linux/arch/arm/kernel/entry-common.S	Tue Feb  2 14:27:41 1999
@@ -110,7 +111,7 @@
 
 3:		add	sp, sp, #4
 		eor	r0, r6, #OS_NUMBER <<20	@ Put OS number back
-		adrsvc	al, lr, slow_syscall_return
+		adrsvc	al, lr, ret_from_sys_call
 		b	SYMBOL_NAME(deferred)
 
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Problem is in elf_check_arm macro of arm elf.h

include/asm-i386/elf.h:
#define elf_check_arch(x) ( ((x) == EM_386) || ((x) == EM_486) )

include/asm-arm/elf.h:
#define elf_check_arch(x) ( ((x)->e_machine == EM_ARM) && 
(ELF_PROC_OK((x))) )

fs/binfmt_elf.c:
	if (!elf_check_arch(interp_elf_ex->e_machine))
	if (!elf_check_arch(elf_ex.e_machine))
	   !elf_check_arch(elf_ex.e_machine) ||


> Hi !
> 
> > >/usr/local/bin/arm-linux-gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-
> > >arm/include  -mapcs-32 -mshort-load-bytes -mcpu=strongarm110 -
> > >Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2  -pipe   -c -o binfmt_elf.o binfmt_elf.c
> > >binfmt_elf.c: In function `load_elf_interp':
> > >binfmt_elf.c:231: invalid type argument of `->'
> > >binfmt_elf.c: In function `do_load_elf_binary':
> > >binfmt_elf.c:434: invalid type argument of `->'
> > >binfmt_elf.c: In function `do_load_elf_library':
> > >binfmt_elf.c:841: invalid type argument of `->'
> >
> > That looks like you've somehow got a mismatch between your header files and
> > your kernel source.  But I don't see how it could have happened.
> >
> > p.
> 
> I have got the same problem and my only solution so far is to compile the
> kernel without ELF support.........
> 
> Greets,
> Chris
> 
> 


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>Problem is in elf_check_arm macro of arm elf.h
>
>include/asm-i386/elf.h:
>#define elf_check_arch(x) ( ((x) == EM_386) || ((x) == EM_486) )
>
>include/asm-arm/elf.h:
>#define elf_check_arch(x) ( ((x)->e_machine == EM_ARM) && 
>(ELF_PROC_OK((x))) )
>
>fs/binfmt_elf.c:
>	if (!elf_check_arch(interp_elf_ex->e_machine))
>	if (!elf_check_arch(elf_ex.e_machine))
>	   !elf_check_arch(elf_ex.e_machine) ||
>

Where did you get your source code?  This is OK in the tree I have here as far 
as I can see.  The correct version is what's in asm-arm/elf.h and the first 
line you quoted from binfmt_elf; but this is different from the current state 
of the art on other architectures.

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I am running an ebsa284 (well half running) on a pci back plane and I am near 
the point that I need to NFS mount the root file system.

problem 1:	I don't have a root file system containing arm compiled executables.
problem 2:	I'm cross compiling for the ebsa on a Sun; I don't have properly
		populated arm-linux root file system;

Question1:	Is there better way to create a root file system on my Sun
		short of downloading a bizillion individual packages (e.g. SRPMs)
		compiling  these individually, and constructing a root fs by
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> >Problem is in elf_check_arm macro of arm elf.h
> >
> >include/asm-i386/elf.h:
> >#define elf_check_arch(x) ( ((x) == EM_386) || ((x) == EM_486) )
> >
> >include/asm-arm/elf.h:
> >#define elf_check_arch(x) ( ((x)->e_machine == EM_ARM) && 
> >(ELF_PROC_OK((x))) )
> >
> >fs/binfmt_elf.c:
> >	if (!elf_check_arch(interp_elf_ex->e_machine))
> >	if (!elf_check_arch(elf_ex.e_machine))
> >	   !elf_check_arch(elf_ex.e_machine) ||
> >
> 
> Where did you get your source code?  This is OK in the tree I have here as far 
> as I can see.  The correct version is what's in asm-arm/elf.h and the first 
> line you quoted from binfmt_elf; but this is different from the current state 
> of the art on other architectures.
> 

It's a old 2.1.10x patched across weeks to 2.2.1, then patched with 
2.2.1-19990128-1-arm

I'll get entire 2.2.1 and see ...

Christophe
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>It's a old 2.1.10x patched across weeks to 2.2.1, then patched with 
>2.2.1-19990128-1-arm
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>I'll get entire 2.2.1 and see ...

OK.  Sounds like you may have dropped a patch somewhere.  If the problem still 
happens with a clean 2.2.1 tree then shout again.

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>Question1:	Is there better way to create a root file system on my Sun
>		short of downloading a bizillion individual packages (e.g. SRPM
>s)
>		compiling  these individually, and constructing a root fs by
>		hand ?

Get either the NetWinder disk image or the Debian boot image.  The former is 
basically a complete system in a tarball and the latter contains enough to
boot the machine to the point you can run dpkg and install more things 
that way. 

Failing that you can grab the binary RPMs from RedHat Rawhide and do something 
like

for $i in *.armv4l.rpm; do rpm2cpio $i | cpio --extract ; done

to just pull out the binaries

p.


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> >It's a old 2.1.10x patched across weeks to 2.2.1, then patched with 
> >2.2.1-19990128-1-arm
> >
> >I'll get entire 2.2.1 and see ...
> 
> OK.  Sounds like you may have dropped a patch somewhere.  If the problem still 
> happens with a clean 2.2.1 tree then shout again.
> 

I've found the problem, it has nothing to do with the tree.
patch-2.2.1-19990128-1 tries to patch file de4x5.c.lock~  , which 
doesnt exist, and patch version 2.5 dumps core and dont patch the 
remaining files.

Know, I've got another problem: arch/arm/drivers/char/char.a is not 
built

/usr/local/bin/arm-linux-gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-
arm/include  -mapcs-32 -mshort-load-bytes -mcpu=strongarm110 -
Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2  -pipe -DUTS_MACHINE='"arm"' -c -o 
init/version.o init/version.c
make -C  kernel
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/kernel'
make all_targets
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/kernel'
make[2]: Nothing to be done for `all_targets'.
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/kernel'
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/kernel'
make -C  arch/arm/drivers
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-
arm/arch/arm/drivers'
make -C ../../../drivers/block
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/drivers/block'
make all_targets
make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/drivers/block'
make[3]: Nothing to be done for `all_targets'.
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/drivers/block'
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/drivers/block'
make -C char1
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-
arm/arch/arm/drivers/char1'
make all_targets
make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-
arm/arch/arm/drivers/char1'
make[3]: Nothing to be done for `all_targets'.
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-
arm/arch/arm/drivers/char1'
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-
arm/arch/arm/drivers/char1'
make -C ../../../drivers/char
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/drivers/char'
make all_targets
make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/drivers/char'
make[3]: Nothing to be done for `all_targets'.
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/drivers/char'
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/drivers/char'
make -C ../../../drivers/net
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/drivers/net'
make all_targets
make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/drivers/net'
make[3]: Nothing to be done for `all_targets'.
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/drivers/net'
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/drivers/net'
make -C ../../../drivers/misc
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/drivers/misc'
make all_targets
make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/drivers/misc'
make[3]: Nothing to be done for `all_targets'.
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/drivers/misc'
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/drivers/misc'
make -C ../../../drivers/pci
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/drivers/pci'
make all_targets
make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/drivers/pci'
make[3]: Nothing to be done for `all_targets'.
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/drivers/pci'
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/drivers/pci'
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/arch/arm/drivers'
make -C  mm
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/mm'
make all_targets
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/mm'
make[2]: Nothing to be done for `all_targets'.
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/mm'
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/mm'
make -C  fs
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/fs'
make -C partitions
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/fs/partitions'
make all_targets
make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/fs/partitions'
make[3]: Nothing to be done for `all_targets'.
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/fs/partitions'
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/fs/partitions'
make -C ext2
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/fs/ext2'
make all_targets
make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/fs/ext2'
make[3]: Nothing to be done for `all_targets'.
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/fs/ext2'
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/fs/ext2'
make -C proc
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/fs/proc'
make all_targets
make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/fs/proc'
make[3]: Nothing to be done for `all_targets'.
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/fs/proc'
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/fs/proc'
make -C nfs
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/fs/nfs'
make all_targets
make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/fs/nfs'
make[3]: Nothing to be done for `all_targets'.
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/fs/nfs'
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/fs/nfs'
make -C lockd
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/fs/lockd'
make all_targets
make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/fs/lockd'
make[3]: Nothing to be done for `all_targets'.
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/fs/lockd'
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/fs/lockd'
make -C romfs
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/fs/romfs'
make all_targets
make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/fs/romfs'
make[3]: Nothing to be done for `all_targets'.
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/fs/romfs'
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/fs/romfs'
make all_targets
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/fs'
make[2]: Nothing to be done for `all_targets'.
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/fs'
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/fs'
make -C  net
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/net'
make -C core
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/net/core'
make all_targets
make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/net/core'
make[3]: Nothing to be done for `all_targets'.
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/net/core'
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/net/core'
make -C ethernet
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/net/ethernet'
make all_targets
make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/net/ethernet'
make[3]: Nothing to be done for `all_targets'.
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/net/ethernet'
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/net/ethernet'
make -C sched
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/net/sched'
make all_targets
make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/net/sched'
make[3]: Nothing to be done for `all_targets'.
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/net/sched'
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/net/sched'
make -C 802
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/net/802'
make all_targets
make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/net/802'
make[3]: Nothing to be done for `all_targets'.
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/net/802'
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/net/802'
make -C ipv4
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/net/ipv4'
make all_targets
make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/net/ipv4'
make[3]: Nothing to be done for `all_targets'.
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/net/ipv4'
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/net/ipv4'
make -C unix
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/net/unix'
make all_targets
make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/net/unix'
make[3]: Nothing to be done for `all_targets'.
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/net/unix'
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/net/unix'
make -C packet
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/net/packet'
make all_targets
make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/net/packet'
make[3]: Nothing to be done for `all_targets'.
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/net/packet'
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/net/packet'
make -C sunrpc
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/net/sunrpc'
make all_targets
make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/net/sunrpc'
make[3]: Nothing to be done for `all_targets'.
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/net/sunrpc'
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/net/sunrpc'
make all_targets
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/net'
make[2]: Nothing to be done for `all_targets'.
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/net'
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/net'
make -C  ipc
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/ipc'
make all_targets
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/ipc'
make[2]: Nothing to be done for `all_targets'.
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/ipc'
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/ipc'
make -C  lib
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/lib'
make all_targets
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/lib'
make[2]: Nothing to be done for `all_targets'.
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/lib'
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/lib'
make -C  arch/arm/lib
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/arch/arm/lib'
make all_targets
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/arch/arm/lib'
make[2]: Nothing to be done for `all_targets'.
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/arch/arm/lib'
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/arch/arm/lib'
make -C  arch/arm/kernel
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-
arm/arch/arm/kernel'
make -C ../lib constants.h
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/arch/arm/lib'
make[2]: `constants.h' is up to date.
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/arch/arm/lib'
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/arch/arm/kernel'
make -C  arch/arm/mm
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/arch/arm/mm'
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/arch/arm/lib'
make[2]: `constants.h' is up to date.
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/arch/arm/lib'
make all_targets
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/arch/arm/mm'
make[2]: Nothing to be done for `all_targets'.
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/arch/arm/mm'
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/arch/arm/mm'
/usr/local/bin/arm-linux-ld -m elf32arm -T /usr/src/linux.2.2.1-
arm/arch/arm/vmlinux-armv.lds -e stext -Ttext 0xC0008000 
arch/arm/kernel/head-armv.o arch/arm/kernel/init_task.o init/main.o 
init/version.o \
--start-group \
arch/arm/kernel/kernel.o arch/arm/mm/mm.o kernel/kernel.o 
mm/mm.o fs/fs.o ipc/ipc.o \
fs/filesystems.a \
net/network.a \
drivers/block/block.a arch/arm/drivers/char/char.a 
drivers/misc/misc.a drivers/net/net.a drivers/pci/pci.a \
arch/arm/lib/lib.a /usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/lib/lib.a `/usr/local/bin/arm-
linux-gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/include  -
mapcs-32 -mshort-load-bytes -mcpu=strongarm110 --print-libgcc-
file-name` \
	--end-group \
	-o vmlinux
/usr/local/bin/arm-linux-ld: cannot open 
arch/arm/drivers/char/char.a: No such file or directory
make: *** [vmlinux] Error 1


Christophe
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>Know, I've got another problem: arch/arm/drivers/char/char.a is not 
>built

Try turning on CONFIG_FB (which should suppress char/char.a altogether) or the 
old Acorn console drivers (which should get it built).

p.


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On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, Philip Blundell wrote:
> >Question1:	Is there better way to create a root file system on my Sun
> >		short of downloading a bizillion individual packages (e.g.SRPMs)
> >		compiling  these individually, and constructing a root fs by
> >		hand ?
> Get either the NetWinder disk image or the Debian boot image.  The former is 

> Failing that you can grab the binary RPMs from RedHat Rawhide and do something 

Or get Mike Montour's rescue image, or Rod Stewart's Titan II (the former
is a minimal set of binaries intended to use for NFS-rescue of a hosed
NetWinder, the latter is a smallish distribution which uses a versioned
Glibc (incompatible with current NetWinder binaries, but what RedHat 6.0
is going to use eventually)).

http://www.netwinder.org/~mmontour/
ftp://ftp.nw.carleton.ca/pub/winder/

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> I just bought an HP Jornada 820. 
> Has anyone any info on installing Linux-arm on this computer?

For the moment no. People have been discussing stuff with HP.  
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On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, Russell King wrote:

> Has anyone been trying the Alpha Partition Managers?  If so, I haven't
> really had any feedback on them, and as such no work has been done on
> them for about 4 months or so now.

I'd been following the link on the download page under 'partition manager'
which says 'the archive partman.arc [...] is ALPHA' rather than the alpha
release link on the main page. Anyway having complained I thought I'd
reinstall from scratch and try Baildon IDEFS out.

With the drive as previously setup (ADFS 480Mb, Linux 520Mb ish) connected
to the Baildon interface PartMan can't work out the format for itself;
told it's Filecore/Linux it produces:
Partition 1  Start 0  End -1  Size 97152MB  Type Filecore
Partition -  Start 0  End 2116799  Size 1034MB  Free

So I guess that isn't going to work, empty my disk onto mag-opts, blank
disk completely with ADFS_DiscOp and reformat with Baildon IDEForm. 
Exactly the same except that the end of the free space is now c. 1000000
as I formatted to a single IDEFS partition of 490Mb. Looking at the start
of the disk there appears to be the partition table present but PartMan
doesn't recognise it. 

Clues anyone? (output from PartMan attached)

thanks

John Joyce

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Subject: Re: Pb compiliing linux-arm [another one]
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Philip Blundell writes:
> >Know, I've got another problem: arch/arm/drivers/char/char.a is not 
> >built
> 
> Try turning on CONFIG_FB (which should suppress char/char.a altogether) or the 
> old Acorn console drivers (which should get it built).

This problem is fixed in my later kernel (due out RSN).
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I've just been looking at one of the many patches that Phil's sent me.

As it turns out, Corel have not implemented the following FP functions:

POW{cond}<S|D|E>{P,M,Z} Fd, Fn, <Fm,#value> - power
RPW{cond}<S|D|E>{P,M,Z} Fd, Fn, <Fm,#value> - reverse power
POL{cond}<S|D|E>{P,M,Z} Fd, Fn, <Fm,#value> - polar angle (arctan2)

LOG{cond}<S|D|E>{P,M,Z} Fd, <Fm,#value> - logarithm to base 10
LGN{cond}<S|D|E>{P,M,Z} Fd, <Fm,#value> - logarithm to base e
EXP{cond}<S|D|E>{P,M,Z} Fd, <Fm,#value> - exponent
SIN{cond}<S|D|E>{P,M,Z} Fd, <Fm,#value> - sine
COS{cond}<S|D|E>{P,M,Z} Fd, <Fm,#value> - cosine
TAN{cond}<S|D|E>{P,M,Z} Fd, <Fm,#value> - tangent
ASN{cond}<S|D|E>{P,M,Z} Fd, <Fm,#value> - arcsine
ACS{cond}<S|D|E>{P,M,Z} Fd, <Fm,#value> - arccosine
ATN{cond}<S|D|E>{P,M,Z} Fd, <Fm,#value> - arctangent

As a consequence, libm.so.4 (which is what all a.out binaries that require
math use) will not work correctly if any math function that uses any of
these is called.

If you wish to use these with Kernel 2.2, then I'm afraid you're in a
sticky situation until this can be sorted out, if it needs to be sorted
out at all anyway.
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John Joyce writes:
> I'd been following the link on the download page under 'partition manager'
> which says 'the archive partman.arc [...] is ALPHA' rather than the alpha
> release link on the main page. Anyway having complained I thought I'd
> reinstall from scratch and try Baildon IDEFS out.

Erm, the one on the main page has been gone for months.  Could you let me
know which version (it should appear in the title bar of the main window)
you've got?

> With the drive as previously setup (ADFS 480Mb, Linux 520Mb ish) connected
> to the Baildon interface PartMan can't work out the format for itself;
> told it's Filecore/Linux it produces:
> Partition 1  Start 0  End -1  Size 97152MB  Type Filecore
> Partition -  Start 0  End 2116799  Size 1034MB  Free

Did PartMan read this correctly when it was connected to the internal IDE?

> So I guess that isn't going to work, empty my disk onto mag-opts, blank
> disk completely with ADFS_DiscOp and reformat with Baildon IDEForm. 
> Exactly the same except that the end of the free space is now c. 1000000
> as I formatted to a single IDEFS partition of 490Mb. Looking at the start
> of the disk there appears to be the partition table present but PartMan
> doesn't recognise it. 

Any chance of a dump of the first sector please?
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On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote:

> Erm, the one on the main page has been gone for months.  Could you let me
> know which version (it should appear in the title bar of the main window)
> you've got?

I'd previously set up with 1.11 as currently pointed at by URL
http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/armlinux/downloading.html#partman
(which says it's the alpha version) with the drive on the internal IDE.

The one from the other url (.../armlinux/alphasw.html) is 1.13a7 [dev].

> > With the drive as previously setup (ADFS 480Mb, Linux 520Mb ish) connected
> > to the Baildon interface PartMan can't work out the format for itself;
> > told it's Filecore/Linux it produces:
> > Partition 1  Start 0  End -1  Size 97152MB  Type Filecore
> > Partition -  Start 0  End 2116799  Size 1034MB  Free
> 
> Did PartMan read this correctly when it was connected to the internal IDE?

1.11 worked fine with the internal IDE when I originally installed but
wouldn't play with the Baildon. I've not tried 1.13a7 back with the
internal.

> Any chance of a dump of the first sector please?

Attached.

regards

John Joyce

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christophe.leroy5@capway.com writes:
> Thinks, it seems to be a bug in menuconfig: Choose 
> FOOTBRIDGE: 
> new options come. Then choose EBSA110, options dont go.
> Exit menuconfig, then relaunch it: extra options have disappeared.

Ok, I've changed it from a choice to a bool.
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Question:  Which version of modutils are people using?  I'm on a
NetWinder/armv4l machine with a versioned libc, 2.0.112.

	[root@zathras t]# uname -a
	Linux zathras 2.2.1 #3 Tue Feb 2 15:17:47 EST 1999 armv4l unknown
with the NWFPE compiled in the kernel.

I have been using modutils-2.1.107, and wanted to upgrade to the latest
version modutils-2.1.121.  But 2.1.121 dies a horrible death (crashing the
machine) when I try `insmod tulip' or `insmod fpem-2.1.132-armv4.o'

One other thing after loading fpem, if I do an lsmod
	[root@zathras t]# lsmod
	Module                  Size  Used by
	fpem-2.1.132-arm?   23808   0  (unused)
		     ^^^^
funny characters here.  This could be another problem though.

Thanks for any tips,
-Rms
My padded room:
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John Joyce writes:
> I'd previously set up with 1.11 as currently pointed at by URL
> http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/armlinux/downloading.html#partman
> (which says it's the alpha version) with the drive on the internal IDE.
> 
> The one from the other url (.../armlinux/alphasw.html) is 1.13a7 [dev].

There is a 1.13a8 on the FTP site (I didn't point the URL at it because I think
it lies on it's start up screen as to what's enabled).

I've just tried that file on my linux fdisk (which uses the same code), and it
recognises it.  I think 1.13a8 may be worth a try.  If it doesn't recognise
the ICS IDEFS, then I think it dumps out the sector in the log file.
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Russell King wrote:

>If you wish to use these with Kernel 2.2, then I'm afraid you're in a
>sticky situation until this can be sorted out, if it needs to be sorted
>out at all anyway.

Yeah.  Implementing the missing opcodes is certainly on the to-do list; once 
that's done the libc could be taught to use them which should give a bit of a
performance improvement.  I get the impression not all that many people are 
doing heavy maths on ARM machines though so the demand seems to be pretty 
small.

If anybody is interested in implementing them, they should probably get in 
touch with Scott, or failing that with me.  At least some ideas exist for how 
they might be implemented; it's just time that's been lacking so far.

p.


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>Question:  Which version of modutils are people using?  I'm on a
>NetWinder/armv4l machine with a versioned libc, 2.0.112.

I think 2.1.107 is still the only version that works properly.  The ARM
support in 2.1.121 is, paradoxically, older and seems to have some bugs.  If 
you have a chance to figure out what's actually wrong I'd be glad to hear.

p.




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I just got a NetWinder, and I'd like to get the 2.2.x
kernel series running on it.  How can I help the ARM
project?

Please let me know...


Jeremy Radlow <radlow@umcs.maine.edu>

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Any clues as to why when I access the PCI config 0 space (virt:0xf8000000,
real: 0x7b000000) the system locks up.

I'm on an ebsa285.

I access the config space as follows (I also hang in when scan_bus calls
pcibios_read_cfgbyte()). The following code is my attempt to isolate the
hang in pci_scanbus()

ulong   pci_cfg0_base = 0xf8000000;
ulong   *p2;
ulong   *p1;

for (i = 0; i < 16; i++)
{
 	 p1 = (ulong *)(pci_cfg0_base + (256 << i));
         printXX("pci %x %x \n", i, *p1);
}


Using a logic analyser I can see that address 0xc0007e00 is accessed and then
address 0x100 and the she's dead in the water.

0x7e00 is the translation entry for 0xf800000 to 0x7b000000. It looks good:

the translation table entry is:
		0xc0007e00: 0x7b000442    0xc0007e04: 0x7b100442 


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On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote:

> christophe.leroy5@capway.com writes:
> > Thinks, it seems to be a bug in menuconfig: Choose 
> > FOOTBRIDGE: 
> > new options come. Then choose EBSA110, options dont go.
> > Exit menuconfig, then relaunch it: extra options have disappeared.
> 
> Ok, I've changed it from a choice to a bool.

Thing is if you have a default value for a choice and you select another,
the previous (default) value doesn't get discarded.  So you get two
definition from the same choice prompt.  The 'choice' command should
discard all variable but the one selected, not just defining the one that
you select.


Nicolas Pitre, B. ing.
nico@cam.org


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At 06:57 PM 2/2/99 -0500, I wrote:
>I just got a NetWinder, and I'd like to get the 2.2.x
>kernel series running on it.

That was a dumb question - I was just directed to the
2.2.x patches.  (Much obliged...)  Sorry, don't mind me...
I'm a little too eager to get started, I guess!

-- Jeremy

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I've found that the definition of FD_SET in
include/asm/posix_types.h is incompatible
with the definition in glibc.

The trouble is that the definition in asm/posix_types.h
uses the name fds_bits for the bit field of a fd_set
while in glibc __fds_bits is used instead.

Could anybody tell me the difference between the
implementation of the FD_* macros in glibc and
those found in the kernel headers?

/Peter
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Please note that I don't think that any of the people concerned with
this problem are on l-k.  Please post any replies to linux-arm as well
as linux-kernel.  Thanks.

Nicolas Pitre said:
> On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote:
> > christophe.leroy5@capway.com writes:
> > > Thinks, it seems to be a bug in menuconfig: Choose 
> > > FOOTBRIDGE: 
> > > new options come. Then choose EBSA110, options dont go.
> > > Exit menuconfig, then relaunch it: extra options have disappeared.
> > 
> > Ok, I've changed it from a choice to a bool.
> 
> Thing is if you have a default value for a choice and you select another,
> the previous (default) value doesn't get discarded.  So you get two
> definition from the same choice prompt.  The 'choice' command should
> discard all variable but the one selected, not just defining the one that
> you select.

It's actually more complicated than that.  'choice' does not behave the same
way as the other commands in the config file - it is never grayed out under
any circumstances, and I also suspect that even when it is supposed to be
grayed out and no options selected, it still defines one option.

I don't think it's a case of undefining the unselected variables.  The
config is:

  select machine using choice

  if machine was a footbridge
    select host or add-in from a choice

Since the 'if' makes no odds to the second choice in xconfig, it breaks.

I'll post this to linux-kernel as well.  If they want to see the exact case,
have a look at the latest ARM config.in patches for 2.2.1 on
ftp://ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/armlinux/kernel-sources/v2.2

--
Russell King (rmk@milldev.demon.co.uk)

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In message <36B81450.B407741E@era-t.ericsson.se>, Peter Danielsson writes:
>I've found that the definition of FD_SET in
>include/asm/posix_types.h is incompatible
>with the definition in glibc.

Yes.  You mustn't mix kernel headers with libc ones.  Many datatypes are 
different and this is usually a recipe for trouble.

Do you have a particular need to include kernel headers in your program?

p.


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>Any clues as to why when I access the PCI config 0 space (virt:0xf8000000,
>real: 0x7b000000) the system locks up.
>
>I'm on an ebsa285.

Stupid question first: have you remembered to un-reset the PCI bus?

p.


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I'm trying to get GGI (a graphics library) and the associated libraries 
to work on the arm-platform. The kernel headers are used for supporting
some linux-specific details like keyboard handling. But I'll complain
to the people that has written the libraries and get them to change
things!

/Peter 


Philip Blundell wrote:
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> In message <36B81450.B407741E@era-t.ericsson.se>, Peter Danielsson writes:
> >I've found that the definition of FD_SET in
> >include/asm/posix_types.h is incompatible
> >with the definition in glibc.
> 
> Yes.  You mustn't mix kernel headers with libc ones.  Many datatypes are
> different and this is usually a recipe for trouble.
> 
> Do you have a particular need to include kernel headers in your program?
> 
> p.
> 
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In message <36B83D09.CA201B43@era-t.ericsson.se>, Peter Danielsson writes:
>I'm trying to get GGI (a graphics library) and the associated libraries 
>to work on the arm-platform. The kernel headers are used for supporting
>some linux-specific details like keyboard handling. But I'll complain
>to the people that has written the libraries and get them to change
>things!

That's certainly the best plan.  This isn't a problem specific to the ARM; it 
will affect any platform using glibc.  The incompatibilities are somewhat 
worse with glibc 2.1 (as used on the NetWinder) than glibc 2.0 (as used by 
most distributions for other platforms at the moment) which may be why you're 
noticing it for the first time.

p.


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I want to update the ARM Linux running on my RiscPC (ARM610/RISC OS
3.5/Issue 1 MB).  I would like to have cross compilers for both aout and
ELF.

ELF
---

As I already have a native aout compiler I started with ELF.  I have
compiled binutils2.9.1.0.19a (with appropriate patch).  Setting the target
to arm-linux as it didn't like armv3-linux and it seems to have worked. 

My first two questions are:

1)	Am I correct in assuming it doesn't matter about the processor
	type with binutils?
2)	armv3 is the *right* type definition for an ARM610?

I have obtained and compiled egcs1.1.1 setting the target to armv3-linux
and compiling the first stage.  Ie LANGUAGES="c".  Again I think this
worked as compiling to an assembler source does indeed generate ARM code.

Am I doing this right?

I have also obtained the sources from cygnus of glibc2.0.111 and tried
compiling it with the target set to armv3-linux.  It seems to break in the
middle of compilation. The output is below... 

mkdir /usr/src/glibc-build/csu
mkdir /usr/src/glibc-build/gnu
In file included from /usr/local/armv3-linux/include/linux/ptrace.h:24,
                 from /usr/local/armv3-linux/include/linux/personality.h:5,
                 from ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/init-first.c:23:
/usr/local/armv3-linux/include/asm/ptrace.h:4: asm/proc/ptrace.h: No such
file or directory
In file included from /usr/local/armv3-linux/include/linux/ptrace.h:24,
                 from /usr/local/armv3-linux/include/linux/personality.h:5,
                 from ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/init-first.c:23:
/usr/local/armv3-linux/include/asm/ptrace.h:4: asm/proc/ptrace.h: No such
file or directory
make[2]: *** [/usr/src/glibc-build/csu/init-first.o] Error 1
make[1]: *** [csu/subdir_lib] Error 2
make: *** [all] Error 2

What have I done wrong?  The kernel sources are a late version 2.1
kernel.  I have a log of the make output if that helps.

aout
----

binutils successfully compiled with arm-linux-aout as the target as did
egcs.  Neither of them liked armv3-linux-aout.  What target processor have
I actually built these for.  What do I do about libraries.  Sources for
libc4 are not on the ARM Linux web site.

Kernels et al
-------------

Am I right in thinking that the 2.0 kernels are broken wrt ELF for the
ARM?  I do have the sources to 2.2.1 and patch sitting on my sun at work
waiting for me to blow a CD.  What is the best kernel to use for an ELF
system.  What other tools do I need to build to get an aout/ELF hybrid
system up and running.

Many thanks

Melanie
 
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>1)	Am I correct in assuming it doesn't matter about the processor
>	type with binutils?

Yes.

>2)	armv3 is the *right* type definition for an ARM610?

Yes.  The reason binutils didn't like it is just because its configure scripts 
need updating.

>In file included from /usr/local/armv3-linux/include/linux/ptrace.h:24,
>                 from /usr/local/armv3-linux/include/linux/personality.h:5,
>                 from ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/init-first.c:23:
>/usr/local/armv3-linux/include/asm/ptrace.h:4: asm/proc/ptrace.h: No such
>file or directory

You have to make the appropriate symlinks in the kernel source directory.  
This happens automatically when you configure the kernel; otherwise you must 
manually link include/asm-arm/proc-armv -> include/asm-arm/proc and so on.

>binutils successfully compiled with arm-linux-aout as the target as did
>egcs.  Neither of them liked armv3-linux-aout.  What target processor have
>I actually built these for.  What do I do about libraries.  Sources for
>libc4 are not on the ARM Linux web site.

I think the default target processor for a.out is still an ARM3.  Binutils 
doesn't care, it's only egcs that needs to know.

>Am I right in thinking that the 2.0 kernels are broken wrt ELF for the
>ARM?

It might be OK in the latest versions.  Corel's are definitely OK but their 
source may not work on non-NetWinder machines.

>What is the best kernel to use for an ELF system.

I use 2.2.1 quite successfully.

>What other tools do I need to build to get an aout/ELF hybrid
>system up and running.

None that I can think of.

p.


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Over the last few days I've had my NetWinder running various tests to try to 
crash it.  The good news is that the latest kernel seems a lot better than 
previous versions.  I haven't managed to trip it up so far and the problems 
with heavy swapping load seem to have disappeared as well.  The latter is 
slightly worrying because I don't know why it happened, but I guess we might 
as well enjoy the new stability. :-)

I've made a new patch for 2.2.1 incorporating the fix I mentioned yesterday 
and another for the alignment trap handler to avoid a NULL dereference under 
some circumstances.  Since ftp.netwinder.org seems to be experiencing some 
downtime the patch is in a different place to usual:

http://www.tazenda.demon.co.uk/phil/armlinux/patches/linux-2.2.1-philb-990203.gz

This version also incorporates a renumbering of the DMA channels so the ISA 
ones start at 0 and a couple of other things.  If you can make the kernel 
crash or lock the machine, I'd be very interested to hear about it.

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Philip Blundell writes:
> You have to make the appropriate symlinks in the kernel source directory.  
> This happens automatically when you configure the kernel; otherwise you must 
> manually link include/asm-arm/proc-armv -> include/asm-arm/proc and so on.

Not quite true.  You need to make config followed by either make symlinks or
make dep

> >Am I right in thinking that the 2.0 kernels are broken wrt ELF for the
> >ARM?
> 
> It might be OK in the latest versions.  Corel's are definitely OK but their 
> source may not work on non-NetWinder machines.

I think it's highly likely that Corel's source will not work on non-NetWinder
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Dear ARMers,

Is it possible in theory or practice to try Linux kernels
under the ARMulator?

If so, what is required?

All information gratefully received.

Mitch.
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At 07:04 PM 2/4/99 +1100, you wrote:
>Dear ARMers,
>
>Is it possible in theory or practice to try Linux kernels
>under the ARMulator?
>
>If so, what is required?

Yes it is; have a look at ftp://ftp.compsoc.man.ac.uk/pub/arcem
- that is an emulation of one of the oldest Acorn machines together
with a working ARM Linux kernel for it.

It is based around the public release of the ARMulator (although the later
versions of arcem hack it about a lot for speed).

It should theoretically possible to emulate a newer system (e.g. say whatever
goes in StrongARM based PDAs....) and then boot Linux on that - all you have
to do is write the emulation of the rest of the hardware.

Dave

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>Is it possible in theory or practice to try Linux kernels
>under the ARMulator?

What exactly are you trying to do?  The main problem with this idea is that 
for the kernel to do anything very useful it depends on all sorts of hardware 
outside the CPU core which probably doesn't get ARMulated.

In theory yes, it's certainly doable; you could have a model of an entire 
computer (well, enough to make the kernel run).  It would probably be a 
worthwhile project if you have the time.  Either you could extend the emulator 
to simulate an existing board, or you could devise a new port of the kernel to 
make life easier.

Dave Gilbert has an Archimedes emulator which might be worth a look.  I've 
never seen it myself.

p.


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On Thu, 04 Feb 1999, Mitch Davis wrote:
>Dear ARMers,
>
>Is it possible in theory or practice to try Linux kernels
>under the ARMulator?
>
>If so, what is required?
>
>All information gratefully received.
>
>Mitch.
>--

I've done alot of initial embedded OS debugging (not Linux) of
StrongARMs under the OpenSource version of the ARMulator.
Unfortunately, it doesn't, as shipped, include support for any of the
ARM4 instructions, has a pitifully broken event model for scheduling
events, and intercepts SWIs, revectoring them tor standard Unix
I/O.  In addition, it has little support for hardware emulation so you
have to write your own hardware emulation modules for UARTs
and timers.  For Linux, the ARMulator has no support at all for
the ARM MMU, but it does have pluggable memory models so it's
possible to write one yourself.

Once this is done, it works OK, but really slow.  The code has alot
of excess baggage in counting instruction cycles and emulating pipelines
which is terribly useful when your designing silicon, but just slows an
emulator down when your trying to debug operating system code.

--
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>Once this is done, it works OK, but really slow.  The code has alot
>of excess baggage in counting instruction cycles and emulating pipelines
>which is terribly useful when your designing silicon, but just slows an
>emulator down when your trying to debug operating system code.

In a sense actually this stuff is good.  For writing OS code it's sometimes 
good to be able to count pipeline stalls, TLB misses and the like.  I agree 
that it would often also be good to be able to turn it off and make the 
emulator run quicker, though.

p.


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Jon Olson said:
> Once this is done, it works OK, but really slow.  The code has alot
> of excess baggage in counting instruction cycles and emulating pipelines
> which is terribly useful when your designing silicon, but just slows an
> emulator down when your trying to debug operating system code.

I would really really suggest that you look at Dave Gilbert's modified
ARMulator.  He has spent some time improving it and removing the baggage
for his Archimedes emulation.  It might be a better base to start from.

--
Russell King (rmk@milldev.demon.co.uk)


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Chris Gransden writes:
> Fatal server error:
> OpenConsole: VT_GETSCRINFO failed

I have a replacement (but not 100% tested) X server which is basically the
old version upgraded to handle the new fbcon.  It will still work with old
kernels however.

I'll upload it to the FTP site soon.
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Is anybody working on support for the Acorn ether2 cards?  I have a pile of 
the things here; most seem to be faulty but could probably be persuaded to 
work again.

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Russell King - ARM Linux Admin writes:
> I have a replacement (but not 100% tested) X server which is basically the
> old version upgraded to handle the new fbcon.  It will still work with old
> kernels however.
> 
> I'll upload it to the FTP site soon.

Ok, you should find it at:

 ftp.arm.linux.org.uk:/pub/armlinux/testing/Xarmlinux.gz
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On 07 Feb, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> Russell King - ARM Linux Admin writes:
> > I have a replacement (but not 100% tested) X server which is basically the
> > old version upgraded to handle the new fbcon.  It will still work with old
> > kernels however.
> > 
> > I'll upload it to the FTP site soon.

> Ok, you should find it at:

>  ftp.arm.linux.org.uk:/pub/armlinux/testing/Xarmlinux.gz

Thanks for that. Unfortunately it locks solid as soon as the mouse pointer
appears in the middle of the screen. It still works under 2.0.35 though.
Here's my device file, just in case I got it wrong,

crw-rw-rw-   1 root     root      29,   0 Feb  7 21:11 /dev/fb0

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Hi All,

More new patches...

This one should not affect NetWinder users too much - it's more Acorn-based
fixes and such like.

Things changed:

 - Acorn VIDC resolution selection.
	Please get the 'fbset' utility (see linux/Documentation).  It's
	not tested to death, but seems to work ok for me.  I don't
	guarantee that it'll work out that a resolution is not valid,
	but at least you can now dynamically change it (and have virtual
	consoles at different resolutions!)

   NOTE: currently for VIDC1 machines, the unused screen memory is *not*
         freed with this kernel.  There will be a kernel option where you
	 can specify the amount of memory you want to allocate to the
	 screen in a later kernel.

   NOTE: read drivers/video/acornfb.c for kernel options, incl. monitor
	 types.

 - Miscellaneous A5000/Old Arc fixes.
	The kernel is again able to handle more than 4 bash shells
	before killing processes.  PhilB pointed out the reason.  The
	fix isn't complete yet, but is sufficient to get things stable
	again.

 - Duplicate code removal in fault-arm*.c.

 - NWFPE added.

 - vfork fixed.

 - EBSA285/NetWinder flash correctly protected, dispite what Phil may
   tell you. ;)

 - small_page allocation routines more flexable to allow 8k and 1k allocations
   depending on it's configuration.

 - arch/arm/drivers has gone!  arch/arm/special contains arch/arm/drivers/char1.
	This means that the old drivers in arch/arm/drivers/char are no
	longer in the tree.

Enjoy, and don't forget to let me know about breakages!

PS, how do you subscribe to the 7110 mailing list?
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On Sun, 7 Feb 1999 20:41:43 +0000 (GMT)
Russell King - ARM Linux Admin <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> wrote:

> > I'll upload it to the FTP site soon.
> 
> Ok, you should find it at:
> 
>  ftp.arm.linux.org.uk:/pub/armlinux/testing/Xarmlinux.gz

Good!! Please open its source too.


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I'm still having problems building an ARM [cross] development environment.
Any ideas???

Thanks,

Jason

-----------------

This is a [resumed] list steps and problems found trying to build an ARM
development environment:

1)	Built and installed Binutils v2.9.1.0.19a for RedHat Linux 5.2
(x86).
2)	Applied the ARM patch, built and installed Binutils v2.9.1.0.19a to
cross develop for 'arm-linux' (ELF) (./configure -target=arm-linux
-prefix=/usr).
3)	Built and installed Binutils v2.9.1.0.19a to cross develop for
'arm-linuxaout' (a.out) (./configure -target=arm-linuxaout -prefix=/usr).
4)	Applied the ARM patch, built and installed EGCS 1.1.1 for RedHat
Linux 5.2 (x86)
5)	Attempted to build (make cross) EGCS 1.1.1 to cross develop for
'arm-linux' (ELF). It failed with the following messages:

	touch stmp-int-hdrs
	echo "#error float.h values not known for cross-compiler" >
t-flat.h-cross
	mv t-float.h-cross flat.h-cross
	rm -f gfloat.h
	cp gfloat.h include/float.h
	touch stmp-headers
	mv libgcc1.a libgcc1.cross || (echo You must find a way to make
libgcc1.a; false)
	mv: libgcc1.a: No such file or directory
	You must find a way to make libgcc1.a
	make: *** [libgcc1.cross] Error 1
	#

6)	I fixed this problem by downloading (and expanding) the Kernel
sources for Linux v2.2.0 and doing something like this:

	# cd PREFIX/arm-linux
	# makdir include
	# cd include
	# ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/asm-arm asm
	# ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/linux linux

	7) Ran 'make cross" again and this time the build failed with the
following messages:

	touch stmp-int-hdrs
	echo "#error float.h values not known for cross-compiler" >
t-flat.h-cross
	mv t-float.h-cross flat.h-cross
	rm -f gfloat.h
	cp gfloat.h include/float.h
	touch stmp-headers
	mv libgcc1.a libgcc1.cross || (echo You must find a way to make
libgcc1.a; false)
	mv: libgcc1.a: No such file or directory
	You must find a way to make libgcc1.a
	make: *** [libgcc1.cross] Error 1
	#

7)	Moved to the 'gcc' subdirectory (# cd gcc), ran configure (#
./configure -target=arm-linux -prefix=/usr) and [apparently] successfully
built the 'c' compiler (# make LANGUAGES="c") and installed it (# make
LANGUAGES="c" install).
8)	Returned to the 'egcs-1.1.1' directory and tried to finish building
EGCS (# make cross). The build failed with the following error messages:

	checking whether the C compiler
(/home/chagas/egcs/egcs-1.1.1/gcc/xgcc -B/home/c
	hagas/egcs/egcs-1.1.1/gcc/ -g -O2 ) works... no
	configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler
cannot create
	e executables.
	make[1]: *** [configure-target-libiberty] Error 1
	make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/chagas/egcs/egcs-1.1.1'
	make: *** [cross] Error 2

9)	I tested ./gcc/xgcc and it seems to be working fine. So I 'greped'
all subdiretories under '~/egcs-1.1.1' and  commented out the offending code
in ./gcc/configure, ./libf2c/configure, ./libf2c/libF77/configure,
./libf2c/libI77/configure, ./libf2c/libU77/configure, ./libiberty/configure,
./texinfo/configure to prevent the error from happening.
10)	Ran '~/egcc-1.1.1/make cross' again and I get the following error
messages:

	make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/chagas/egcs/egcs-1.1.1/gcc'
	make[2]: Entering directory
`/home/chagas/egcs/egcs-1.1.1/arm-linux/libiberty'
	test x"no" != xyes || \
	  /home/chagas/egcs/egcs-1.1.1/gcc/xgcc
-B/home/chagas/egcs/egcs-1.1.1/gcc/ -c -
	DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -I. -I./../../include   choose-temp.c -o
pic/choose-temp.o
	/home/chagas/egcs/egcs-1.1.1/gcc/xgcc
-B/home/chagas/egcs/egcs-1.1.1/gcc/ -c -DH
	AVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -I. -I./../../include  choose-temp.c
	choose-temp.c:40: sys/types.h: No such file or directory
	choose-temp.c:41: sys/file.h: No such file or directory
	choose-temp.c:50: stdio.h: No such file or directory
	make[2]: *** [choose-temp.o] Error 1
	make[2]: Leaving directory
`/home/chagas/egcs/egcs-1.1.1/arm-linux/libiberty'
	make[1]: *** [all-target-libiberty] Error 2
	make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/chagas/egcs/egcs-1.1.1'
	make: *** [cross] Error 2

11)	Looking into Phil Blundell's notes a see a reference to CFLAGS
definition '-Dinhibit_libc'. So I go back into the ./gcc subdirectory, add
'-Dinhibit_libc' to the Makefile, called 'make clean', called 'make
LANGUAGES="c"' and finally [successfully] 'make LANGUAGES="c" install'.
12)	Next I move on to build 'glibc'. I 'untar'ed 'glibc-2.0.111', and
add-ons 'crypt' and 'linuxthreads' under 'glibc-2.0.111' subdirectory. I
first ran './configure' to attempt to build for RedHat Linux 5.2 (x86). It
failed with the following messages:

	checking for __builtin_expect... no
	running configure fragment for ./sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux
	checking installed Linux kernel header files... 2.0.10 or later
	*** You should not compile the GNU libc without the `linuxthreads'
and
	*** `crypt' add-on.  Not using them risks to be incompatible with
the
	*** libraries of other systems.  Consider getting the add-ons and
restart
	*** the configuration.
	*** If you really mean to avoid those add-ons run configure again,
now
	*** using the extra parameter `--disable-sanity-checks'.

13)	Ran './configure -enable-add-ons' to build for the x86 platform.
This time 'configure' runs successfully. 'make' also runs successfully.
However, I didn't dare to run 'make install' and run the risk of getting
hosed. Then I ran 'make clean'.
14)	Successfully configured  ('CC=arm-linux-gcc ./configure arm-linux
-build=i586-linux -prefix=/usr/arm-linux -enable-add-ons), built (make) and
installed (make installed) libc for arm-linux (ELF).
15)	Before attempting to finish building 'egcs-1.1.1' for arm-linux
(ELF) I first blow away all the files that were under the 'egcs-1.1.1'
subdirectory to get rid of any previous modifications, the un-tar egcs
again, run configure (./configure -target=arm-linux -prefix=/usr), go under
the 'gcc' subdirectory, run configure again (./configure -target=arm-linux
-prefix=/usr), build 'gcc' ('make LANGUAGES="c"'), install it ('make
LANGUAGES="c" install'), step back to the './egcs-1.1.1' directory and run
'make cross'. These are the errors I get:

	checking for unistd.h... yes
	checking whether the C compiler
(/home/chagas/egcs/egcs-1.1.1/gcc/xgcc -B/home/c
	hagas/egcs/egcs-1.1.1/gcc/ -g -O2 ) works... no
	configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler
cannot creat
	e executables.
	make[1]: *** [configure-target-libiberty] Error 1
	make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/chagas/egcs/egcs-1.1.1'
	make: *** [cross] Error 2

16)	I ran './gcc/xgcc -dumpmachine' and it returns 'arm-linux' as
expected ('gcc -dumpmachine' returns 'i686-pc-linux-gnu'). However, when I
try to cross compile a "Hello World" application  the arm-linux compiler
returns with the following error message:

# ./egcs/egcs-1.1.1/gcc/xgcc -o helloarm hello.c
/usr/arm-linux/lib/crt1.o: file not recognized: File format not recognized
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
#

17) I also tried cross compiling for 'arm-linux' defining 'CC=arm-linux-gcc'
but it builds for x86 instead:

# CC=arm-linux-gcc gcc -o helloarm hello.c
# ./helloarm
Hello World!
#

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I am trying to upgrade from V2.0.35 off the Clan CD, to
V2.2.1, and have run into a problem.

I downloaded linux-2.2.1.tar.gz, and patch-2.2.1-19990128-1.gz,
and unarchived the linux file into /usr/src without any
apparent problems.  I then applied the ARMLinux patch from
the /usr/src/linux directory.  Part way through the execution
of the patch it stopped with

file to patch:

By ignoring that file, the patch proceeded and announced itself
to be successfull.

Make config does not work however, indicating that
script/split_include.c cannot find linux/types.h, linux/stat.h,
linux/errno.h and fcntl.h, and then gives the error:
make: *** [scripts_include] Error 1

This is my first upgrade and (I thought) it seemed to be going
well.  Any help would be gratefully received.


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I've updated my kernel changes to go with Russell's latest patch.

ftp://ftp.netwinder.org/users/p/philb/linux-2.2.1-philb-990208.gz

The patch is a lot smaller than previous versions because NWFPE (which was the 
majority by volume) is now in Russell's tree.

Woody, this includes most of the stuff we discussed last week.  You might like 
to give it a go.  Rod, I think NWFPE stands a chance of working as a module 
now.  Let me know if you try it.

There's also a new prebuilt kernel image which should work on CATS, EBSA-285 
and NetWinder (though I've only tried the last of those):

ftp://ftp.netwinder.org/users/p/philb/2.2.1/Image-285-990208.gz

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I'm ALSO attempting to build an 'a.out' development environment (v2.7 - as
recommended by Russel Kind) on a NetWinder so I can build the Brutus kernel
(downloaded from
http://www.research.digital.com/wrl/itsy/linux/linux-brutus.html
<http://www.research.digital.com/wrl/itsy/linux/linux-brutus.html> ). Note
the NetWinder (DM) comes with 'gcc v2.8.1' (arm-linuxelf) installed.

Please read the description of the problem below. Any ideas??

Jason

-----------------
List of steps:

1)	Expanded 'binutils-2.7 tar file and applied the appropriate 'arm'
patch.
2)	Ran './configure arm-linuxaout -prefix=/usr' successfully.
3)	Ran 'make' and 'make install' successfully.
4)	Expanded 'gcc-2.7.2' tar file and applied the appropriate 'arm'
patch.
5)	Ran './configure arm-linuxaout' successfully. Ran 'make' and got
these error messages returned:


rm -f ${name}.o; \
done
_muldi3
cc1: Invalid option `7'
make[2]: *** [libgcc2.a] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/chagas/gcc/gcc-2.7.2'
make[1]: *** [stmp-multilib-sub] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/chagas/gcc/gcc-2.7.2'
make: *** [stmp-multilib] Error 1

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Russell,

When can I get information on modifing 'extractinfo.pl'  (extractinfo.perl)
to work with the latest and greatest tools (i.e. Binutils v2.9.1.0.19a).

Thanks,

Jason

	----------
	From:  Russell King [SMTP:rmk@milldev.demon.co.uk]
	Sent:  Thursday, January 28, 1999 12:25 PM
	To:  EUSSTK@am1.ericsson.se
	Cc:  linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu
	Subject:  Re: ARM-Linux on Brutus...

	Steve Kipisz said:
	> I can't remember how I solved this problem.  I remembered having
the
	> problem, I just can't remember how I solved it!  Here is my file:
	> 
	> /*
	>  * *** THIS FILE IS AUTOMATICALLY GENERATED.  DO NOT EDIT! ***
	>  */
	> unsigned long tss_memmap = 696;
	> #define __HAS_tss_memmap
	> unsigned long mm = 708;
	> #define __HAS_mm
	> unsigned long pgd = 4;
	> #define __HAS_pgd
	> unsigned long tss_save = 692;
	> #define __HAS_tss_save
	> unsigned long tss_fpesave = 552;
	> #define __HAS_tss_fpesave

	It is not a good idea to send people this file!  There is a good
	reason why it's automatically generated (and it's not to make the
	build process harder).  The constants are highly kernel-version
	dependent.

	The problem is most likely going to be an incompatability between
	the 'extractinfo.pl' perl script and your version of objdump.  When
	using 2.0 kernel source, you either /must/ use the binutils-2.7
a.out
	tools, /or/ fix 'extractinfo.pl' so that it can parse your binutils'
	objdump output.
	--
	Russell King (rmk@milldev.demon.co.uk)


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Hi,

It seems to me that the code we use for floppy pseudo-DMA at the moment is 
unnecessarily complicated.  Although I don't claim to be an expert in these 
matters it appears that something like the attached patch might be better.  
I've tested this briefly on my A5000 and it doesn't seem to have any 
detrimental effects.

What do you think?

p.

--- clean/linux/arch/arm/lib/floppydma.S	Mon Feb  8 19:09:15 1999
+++ linux/arch/arm/lib/floppydma.S	Mon Feb  8 19:10:42 1999
@@ -2,6 +2,7 @@
  * linux/arch/arm/lib/floppydma.S
  *
  * Copyright (C) 1995, 1996 Russell King
+ * Copyright (C) 1999 Philip Blundell
  */
 #include <linux/linkage.h>
 #include <asm/assembler.h>
@@ -9,20 +10,14 @@
 
 		.global	SYMBOL_NAME(floppy_fiqin_end)
 ENTRY(floppy_fiqin_start)
-		subs	r9, r9, #1
-		ldrgtb	r12, [r11, #-4]
-		ldrleb	r12, [r11], #0
+		ldrb	r12, [r11], #4
 		strb	r12, [r10], #1
 		subs	pc, lr, #4
 SYMBOL_NAME(floppy_fiqin_end):
 
 		.global	SYMBOL_NAME(floppy_fiqout_end)
 ENTRY(floppy_fiqout_start)
-		subs	r9, r9, #1
-		ldrgeb	r12, [r10], #1
-		movlt	r12, #0
-		strleb	r12, [r11], #0
-		subles	pc, lr, #4
-		strb	r12, [r11, #-4]
+		ldrb	r12, [r10], #1
+		strb	r12, [r11], #4
 		subs	pc, lr, #4
 SYMBOL_NAME(floppy_fiqout_end):
--- clean/linux/arch/arm/kernel/dma-a5k.c	Mon Feb  8 19:09:14 1999
+++ linux/arch/arm/kernel/dma-a5k.c	Mon Feb  8 19:14:30 1999
@@ -39,7 +40,7 @@
 	else {
 		struct pt_regs regs;
 		get_fiq_regs(&regs);
-		return regs.ARM_r9;
+		return ((int)PCIO_FLOPPYDMABASE + 4 - regs.ARM_fp) / 4;
 	}
 	return 0;
 }
@@ -69,9 +70,9 @@
 			return;
 		}
 		memcpy((void *)0x1c, fiqhandler_start, fiqhandler_length);
-		regs.ARM_r9 = dma->buf.length;
 		regs.ARM_r10 = __bus_to_virt(dma->buf.address);
-		regs.ARM_fp = (int)PCIO_FLOPPYDMABASE;
+		regs.ARM_fp = (int)PCIO_FLOPPYDMABASE + 4 
+			- (dma->buf.length * 4);
 		set_fiq_regs(&regs);
 		enable_irq(dma->dma_irq);
 	}
--- clean/linux/arch/arm/kernel/dma-rpc.c	Mon Feb  8 19:09:14 1999
+++ linux/arch/arm/kernel/dma-rpc.c	Mon Feb  8 19:18:08 1999
@@ -226,7 +226,7 @@
 	case DMA_VIRTUAL_FLOPPY: {
 		struct pt_regs regs;
 		get_fiq_regs(&regs);
-		return regs.ARM_r9;
+		return ((int)PCIO_FLOPPYDMABASE + 4 - regs.ARM_fp) / 4;
 		}
 		break;
 	}
@@ -276,9 +276,9 @@
 			fiqhandler_length = &floppy_fiqout_end - &floppy_fiqout_start;
 		}
 
-		regs.ARM_r9  = dma->buf.length;
 		regs.ARM_r10 = __bus_to_virt(dma->buf.address);
-		regs.ARM_fp  = (int)PCIO_FLOPPYDMABASE;
+		regs.ARM_fp = (int)PCIO_FLOPPYDMABASE + 4 
+			- (dma->buf.length * 4);
 
 		if (claim_fiq(&fh)) {
 			printk("floppydma: couldn't claim FIQ.\n");


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>When can I get information on modifing 'extractinfo.pl'  (extractinfo.perl)
>to work with the latest and greatest tools (i.e. Binutils v2.9.1.0.19a).

I'd ask around on the sa1100 list first.  I think at least some people there 
are using EGCS and new binutils.  Maybe it just works already or maybe someone 
has done the mods.

Failing that, if you look at the script you'll see it's just a Perl script 
that runs objdump on a couple of files and interprets the results.  The lines 
that are likely to need changing are the bits like this:

	while (<DATA>) {
		($addr, $data0, $data1, $data2, $data3) = split (' ');
		$dat[hex($addr)] = hex(&swapdata($data0));

You need to look at the output from your version of objdump, work out where 
the information that the script expects is being output, and then modify the 
code to look in the right place for it.

I was intending to try it myself but I seem to have deleted my arm-linuxaout 
compiler installation. :-(

p.


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On 8 Feb Matthew Wilcox wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 08, 1999 at 04:40:13PM +0000, Andrew Tuson wrote:
> > I am trying to upgrade from V2.0.35 off the Clan CD, to
> > V2.2.1, and have run into a problem.
> 
> It's not the only problem you'll run into.  You'll need an ELF compiler &
> binutils & libc to compile a 2.2 kernel.  I'm trying to upgrade my own
> machine right now, and you can hear the problems I'm having.

Where from?

> > I downloaded linux-2.2.1.tar.gz, and patch-2.2.1-19990128-1.gz,
> > and unarchived the linux file into /usr/src without any
> > apparent problems.  I then applied the ARMLinux patch from
> > the /usr/src/linux directory.
> 
> -EINSUFFICIENTDATA
> 
> I can however guess that you're not using the correct options to patch
> - you should change into the /usr/src/linux directory and type `zcat
> /path/to/patch-2.2.1-19990128-1.gz | patch -p1'.

I used gzip -cd patch-2.2.1-19990128-1.gz | patch -p1 (from Chris
Sawers ARMLinux pages).

 
> > This is my first upgrade and (I thought) it seemed to be going
> > well.  Any help would be gratefully received.
> 
> Even with this correct, I do think you're going to have a lot more
> problems..
> 

Perhaps I would be better off waiting until the Debian CD is available.

-- 
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Philip Blundell writes:
> It seems to me that the code we use for floppy pseudo-DMA at the moment is 
> unnecessarily complicated.  Although I don't claim to be an expert in these 
> matters it appears that something like the attached patch might be better.  
> I've tested this briefly on my A5000 and it doesn't seem to have any 
> detrimental effects.

Interesting, but can it cope with a complete track of the disk?  I seem to
remember that the floppy driver does do this from time to time, and this
is larger than the DMA area.
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Richard writes:
> I am currently trying to install Arm Linux on my SA RISCPC all has gone
> according to the instructions .. including the expected bmap magic
> thingy. Would someone please explain the exact syntax required to create
> the sybolic link between /dev/root and /dev/hda3 so that I can run
> loadmap and what happens then?. Any advice on this would be most
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> Norman's excellent idiots guide to installing.

ln -s /dev/hda3 /dev/root will do the right thing.
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Philip Blundell writes:
> Failing that, if you look at the script you'll see it's just a Perl script 
> that runs objdump on a couple of files and interprets the results.  The lines 
> that are likely to need changing are the bits like this:
> 
> 	while (<DATA>) {
> 		($addr, $data0, $data1, $data2, $data3) = split (' ');
> 		$dat[hex($addr)] = hex(&swapdata($data0));

I've already fixed this for the version of binutils that Dave Gilbert's using
(Dave, could you post your version nrs please).

> You need to look at the output from your version of objdump, work out where 
> the information that the script expects is being output, and then modify the 
> code to look in the right place for it.

Alternatively, send me the output of

objdump --syms getconsdata.o

objdump --full-contents --section=.data getconsdata.o

And I'll look at it.
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On Mon, 8 Feb 1999, Philip Blundell wrote:

> >When can I get information on modifing 'extractinfo.pl'  (extractinfo.perl)
> >to work with the latest and greatest tools (i.e. Binutils v2.9.1.0.19a).
> 
> I'd ask around on the sa1100 list first.  I think at least some people there 
> are using EGCS and new binutils.  Maybe it just works already or maybe someone 
> has done the mods.

OK here's my plan for tonight.  It has been a couple of weeks I wanted to
do it but didn't have time to complete the work.

I'll try to release a patch against 2.2.1-rmk2 tonight.  This patch should
work on Brutus with hopefully any Angel versions.  This kernel will
compile to an ELF binary so the hasle with a.out will not be.

This patch is probably the cleanest up to now (big thanks to Hugo for his
big contribution) and also the more stable I've seen yet.  Some issues
that triggered segfaults with my 2.0.35 patch should be fixed in this one.

However, there won't be any Brutus console support -- only serial console.
I won't do the port for those drivers since I'm not sighted... I'll let it
to others!  :-)

I plan to submit something to Russell soon so the main ARM Linux tree 
could carry SA1100 suport too.

So this is to give hope to those with all sort of problems for which I
think this patch should be less painful.


Nicolas Pitre, B. ing.
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Hi !

It would be great if I could get answers to at least some of the
questions below:

1. Does the angelboot bootloader support the ELF format or should
kernels for an EBSA board use other linker formats ?

2. Can kernels be downloaded via serial port to the evaluation board
(and started with the bootloader) or should they be programmed into the
device's flash ? Why is there no output on the serial port after
downloading the kernel ?

Thanks !!

Chris

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>Interesting, but can it cope with a complete track of the disk?  I seem to
>remember that the floppy driver does do this from time to time, and this
>is larger than the DMA area.

Ah, I didn't realise that.  I imagine that's not the common case though, and 
we could handle it differently in the last resort.  Or maybe the floppy driver 
can be prevented from doing this.  I'll take a look when I have time.

p.


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At 09:18 AM 2/9/99 +0000, Philip Blundell wrote:
>>Interesting, but can it cope with a complete track of the disk?  I seem to
>>remember that the floppy driver does do this from time to time, and this
>>is larger than the DMA area.
>
>Ah, I didn't realise that.  I imagine that's not the common case though, and 
>we could handle it differently in the last resort.  Or maybe the floppy
driver 
>can be prevented from doing this.  I'll take a look when I have time.

I'm not sure - but on Linux/x86 the floppy driver reads a whole track
and buffers it - I can't remember if thats still in there or was removed
to save RAM on ARM.

Dave


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/usr/local/bin/arm-linux-ld -m elf32arm -T /usr/src/linux.2.2.1-
arm/arch/arm/vmlinux-armv.lds -e stext -Ttext 0xC0008000 
arch/arm/kernel/head-armv.o arch/arm/kernel/init_task.o init/main.o 
init/version.o \
--start-group \
arch/arm/kernel/kernel.o arch/arm/mm/mm.o kernel/kernel.o 
mm/mm.o fs/fs.o ipc/ipc.o \
fs/filesystems.a \
net/network.a \
drivers/block/block.a drivers/char/char.a drivers/misc/misc.a 
drivers/net/net.a drivers/pci/pci.a arch/arm/special/special.a 
arch/arm/nwfpe/math-emu.a \
arch/arm/lib/lib.a /usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/lib/lib.a `/usr/local/bin/arm-
linux-gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/include  -
mshort-load-bytes -march=armv4 -mtune=strongarm110 --print-
libgcc-file-name` \
	--end-group \
	-o vmlinux
drivers/char/char.a(misc.o): In function `misc_init':
misc.o(.text.init+0x38): undefined reference to 
`footbridge_watchdog_init'
misc.o(.text.init+0x38): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
footbridge_watchdog_init
make: *** [vmlinux] Error 1


#
# Automatically generated by make menuconfig: don't edit
#
CONFIG_ARM=y

#
# System and processor type
#
# CONFIG_ARCH_ARC is not set
# CONFIG_ARCH_A5K is not set
# CONFIG_ARCH_RPC is not set
# CONFIG_ARCH_EBSA110 is not set
CONFIG_FOOTBRIDGE=y
CONFIG_HOST_FOOTBRIDGE=y
CONFIG_ADDIN_FOOTBRIDGE=y
CONFIG_ARCH_EBSA285=y
# CONFIG_CATS is not set
# CONFIG_ARCH_NETWINDER is not set
# CONFIG_ARCH_ACORN is not set
CONFIG_PCI=y
# CONFIG_ISA_DMA is not set
CONFIG_CPU_32=y
# CONFIG_CPU_26 is not set
CONFIG_CPU_ARMV4=y
CONFIG_TUNE_SA110=y

#
# Code maturity level options
#
CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL=y
# CONFIG_ALIGNMENT_TRAP is not set
CONFIG_TEXT_SECTIONS=y

#
# Loadable module support
#
CONFIG_MODULES=y
# CONFIG_MODVERSIONS is not set
CONFIG_KMOD=y

#
# General setup
#
# CONFIG_NET is not set
CONFIG_SYSVIPC=y
# CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT is not set
CONFIG_SYSCTL=y
CONFIG_NWFPE=y
# CONFIG_BINFMT_AOUT is not set
CONFIG_BINFMT_ELF=y
# CONFIG_BINFMT_MISC is not set
# CONFIG_PARPORT is not set
CONFIG_LEDS=y
CONFIG_LEDS_TIMER=y
CONFIG_LEDS_CPU=y

#
# Plug and Play support
#
# CONFIG_PNP is not set

#
# Block devices
#
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_FD is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD_ONLY is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_MD is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM=y
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_INITRD is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_XD is not set
CONFIG_PARIDE_PARPORT=y
# CONFIG_PARIDE is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD is not set

#
# Character devices
#
# CONFIG_VT is not set
# CONFIG_SERIAL is not set
# CONFIG_SERIAL_EXTENDED is not set
CONFIG_SERIAL_NONSTANDARD=y
# CONFIG_ROCKETPORT is not set
# CONFIG_DIGIEPCA is not set
# CONFIG_DIGI is not set
# CONFIG_CYCLADES is not set
# CONFIG_STALDRV is not set
# CONFIG_RISCOM8 is not set
# CONFIG_SPECIALIX is not set
# CONFIG_ESPSERIAL is not set
# CONFIG_ISI is not set
CONFIG_SERIAL_21285=y
CONFIG_SERIAL_21285_CONSOLE=y
# CONFIG_UNIX98_PTYS is not set
# CONFIG_MOUSE is not set
# CONFIG_QIC02_TAPE is not set
CONFIG_WATCHDOG=y

#
# Watchdog Cards
#
# CONFIG_WATCHDOG_NOWAYOUT is not set
# CONFIG_WDT is not set
CONFIG_SOFT_WATCHDOG=y
# CONFIG_PCWATCHDOG is not set
# CONFIG_ACQUIRE_WDT is not set
CONFIG_21285_WATCHDOG=y
# CONFIG_21285_FLASH is not set
# CONFIG_NVRAM is not set
# CONFIG_RTC is not set

#
# Video For Linux
#
# CONFIG_VIDEO_DEV is not set

#
# Joystick support
#
# CONFIG_JOYSTICK is not set

#
# Ftape, the floppy tape device driver
#
# CONFIG_FTAPE is not set

#
# SCSI support
#
# CONFIG_SCSI is not set

#
# Sound
#
# CONFIG_SOUND is not set

#
# Filesystems
#
# CONFIG_QUOTA is not set
# CONFIG_AUTOFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_ADFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_AFFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_HFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_FAT_FS is not set
CONFIG_MSDOS_FS=m
# CONFIG_UMSDOS_FS is not set
CONFIG_VFAT_FS=m
# CONFIG_ISO9660_FS is not set
# CONFIG_JOLIET is not set
# CONFIG_MINIX_FS is not set
# CONFIG_NTFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_HPFS_FS is not set
CONFIG_PROC_FS=y
# CONFIG_QNX4FS_FS is not set
CONFIG_ROMFS_FS=y
CONFIG_EXT2_FS=y
# CONFIG_SYSV_FS is not set
# CONFIG_UFS_FS is not set

#
# Partition Types
#
# CONFIG_OSF_PARTITION is not set
# CONFIG_MAC_PARTITION is not set
# CONFIG_MSDOS_PARTITION is not set
# CONFIG_SGI_PARTITION is not set
# CONFIG_SUN_PARTITION is not set
# CONFIG_AMIGA_PARTITION is not set
# CONFIG_ACORN_PARTITION is not set
# CONFIG_NLS is not set

#
# Kernel hacking
#
CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER=y
CONFIG_DEBUG_ERRORS=y
# CONFIG_DEBUG_USER is not set
# CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO is not set
CONFIG_MAGIC_SYSRQ=y
# CONFIG_ARTHUR is not set

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>>>>> "Philip" == Philip Blundell <pb@nexus.co.uk> writes:

 >> Interesting, but can it cope with a complete track of the disk?  I
 >> seem to remember that the floppy driver does do this from time to
 >> time, and this is larger than the DMA area.

 Philip> Ah, I didn't realise that.  I imagine that's not the common
 Philip> case though, and we could handle it differently in the last
 Philip> resort.  Or maybe the floppy driver can be prevented from
 Philip> doing this.  I'll take a look when I have time.

Don't know about common, but applications that want to do high speed
floppy I/O are likely to do such a thing.  I have one that hasn't yet
been upgraded to do this, but will be when I can.

	paul
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Hi,

I'm using the 2.0.35 kernel on a RiscPC.
My problem is that make will not execute shell scripts. The shell scripts
are located in a bin directory, and work fine when run from the command
prompt. When run from a makefile, I always get the error 'cannot execute
binary file [Error 126]'.

A trivial example is when the makefile contains:

a:
	b

and the shell script (called b) contains:

echo

doing a 'make -d' gives:
  Putting child 0x00035C60 PID00445 on the chain.
  Live child 0x00035C60 PID445
  make: /usr/bin/make: cannot execute binary file
  Got a SIGCHLD; 1 unreaped children

Am I doing something really stupid, or is it make's fault?
Any help would be appreciated.


Sam Ellis.

Department of Electronics & Computer Science
University of Southampton

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In the last mail Sam Ellis said:
> Am I doing something really stupid, or is it make's fault?

No.
try

make SHELL=/bin/zsh

and see if that helps.

> Any help would be appreciated.

1: Do your shell scripts start with a single :   ?
2: Does anyone know if bash 2 can cope with such shell scripts?
   (if so, another reason for suppling bash 2 in preference to 1.14)

Nick
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At 10:46 AM 2/9/99 -0500, Paul Koning wrote:

>Don't know about common, but applications that want to do high speed
>floppy I/O are likely to do such a thing.  I have one that hasn't yet
>been upgraded to do this, but will be when I can.

Hmm - 'floppy' and 'high speed' in the same sentance - can someone note
that down - it may be a once only occurrence.....

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>>>>> "David" == David Alan Gilbert <dg@px.uk.com> writes:

 David> At 10:46 AM 2/9/99 -0500, Paul Koning wrote:
 >> Don't know about common, but applications that want to do high
 >> speed floppy I/O are likely to do such a thing.  I have one that
 >> hasn't yet been upgraded to do this, but will be when I can.

 David> Hmm - 'floppy' and 'high speed' in the same sentance - can
 David> someone note that down - it may be a once only occurrence.....

Ok ok... :-)

But if you ever tried block at a time processing vs. track at a time
processing, you'd know.  Perhaps you might use "slow" vs "absurdly
unbelievably slow".

	paul
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Previously, I wrote:

>It seems to me that the code we use for floppy pseudo-DMA at the moment is 
>unnecessarily complicated.  [...]

Russell, you mentioned that you thought whole-track reads might fall foul of 
this.  By my calculations the maximum buffer size with my code is 0x18004/4 
or 24577 bytes.  If you extrapolate this to an 80-track double sided disk you 
get a capacity of 3840 kilobytes which is (as far as I know) way beyond 
what any drive fitted to Acorn equipment is capable of.  In fact the Acorn 
PRMs give the maximum "actual workable track length" as 12312 bytes.

It does look like there's some support in the floppy driver for whole-cylinder 
transfers, which would indeed come to grief.  I don't know whether this is 
actually ever used on the A5000 or the RiscPC.  I suspect not on the former 
which is actually the machine I'm more interested in.

(For those wondering why I'm interested in this stuff: my original goal was 
actually to make the floppy FIQ code short enough that it would be safe to 
disable FIQs for a couple of instructions from time to time without running 
the risk of disk corruption.  Apparently at the moment this isn't possible 
which could cause problems with the IRQ masks under some circumstances.)

p.


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In article <48d0d7d580chrisg@nedman.demon.co.uk>,
   Chris Gransden <chrisg@nedman.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> On 07 Feb, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> > Russell King - ARM Linux Admin writes:
> > > I have a replacement (but not 100% tested) X server which is basically the
> > > old version upgraded to handle the new fbcon.  It will still work with old
> > > kernels however.
> > > 
> > > I'll upload it to the FTP site soon.

> > Ok, you should find it at:

> >  ftp.arm.linux.org.uk:/pub/armlinux/testing/Xarmlinux.gz

> Thanks for that. Unfortunately it locks solid as soon as the mouse pointer
> appears in the middle of the screen. It still works under 2.0.35 though.
> Here's my device file, just in case I got it wrong,

> crw-rw-rw-   1 root     root      29,   0 Feb  7 21:11 /dev/fb0

It turns out that if I move the mouse around after typing startx the X
server starts up fine. This is with rmk2.
I've set the console to 1280x1024 8bit but X always starts up in 640x480
4bit. Setting the resolution and depth from an X term the screen display
gets corrupted. If I then exit back to the console and restart the X server
I get the intended resolution and depth. I've also noticed the mouse
pointer is restricted to the 640x480 screen size in the console.

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Philip Blundell writes:
> Previously, I wrote:
> >It seems to me that the code we use for floppy pseudo-DMA at the moment is 
> >unnecessarily complicated.  [...]
> 
> Russell, you mentioned that you thought whole-track reads might fall foul of 
> this.  By my calculations the maximum buffer size with my code is 0x18004/4 
> or 24577 bytes.  If you extrapolate this to an 80-track double sided disk you 
> get a capacity of 3840 kilobytes which is (as far as I know) way beyond 
> what any drive fitted to Acorn equipment is capable of.  In fact the Acorn 
> PRMs give the maximum "actual workable track length" as 12312 bytes.

Careful how you refer to a track and a cylinder.  A cylinder consists of
two tracks on a two headed drive.  The disk controllers are capable of
automatically changing 'sides' of the disk.  Hence, for an 80-cylinder
disk, the maximum capacity that would be supported by this is not 3840KB
but 1920KB.  (as specified in the A5K TRM incidentally).  Since this
format would require a data rate of 500kbps, it is just within the
drive specs.
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>drivers/char/char.a(misc.o): In function `misc_init':
>misc.o(.text.init+0x38): undefined reference to 
>`footbridge_watchdog_init'

My mistake.  Try the appended patch.

p.

--- linux/drivers/char/Makefile~	Mon Feb  8 11:49:51 1999
+++ linux/drivers/char/Makefile	Wed Feb 10 10:02:28 1999
@@ -469,6 +469,30 @@
   endif
 endif
 
+ifeq ($(CONFIG_21285_WATCHDOG),y)
+L_OBJS += wdog285.o
+else
+  ifeq ($(CONFIG_21285_WATCHDOG),m)
+  M_OBJS += wdog285.o
+  endif   
+endif
+
+ifeq ($(CONFIG_21285_FLASH),y)
+L_OBJS += flash285.o
+else
+  ifeq ($(CONFIG_21285_FLASH),m)
+  M_OBJS += flash285.o
+  endif   
+endif
+
+ifeq ($(CONFIG_VNC_FLASH),y)
+L_OBJS += nwflash.o
+else
+  ifeq ($(CONFIG_VNC_FLASH),m)
+  M_OBJS += nwflash.o
+  endif   
+endif
+
 include $(TOPDIR)/Rules.make
 
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I just opened up the Jornada to install an additional 16 Mb ram.
It appears that the rom module is easily replaceable. How hard
is it likely to be to get Linux programmed into a Jornada rom module?

Alan Cox wrote:
> 
> > I just bought an HP Jornada 820.
> > Has anyone any info on installing Linux-arm on this computer?
> 
> For the moment no. People have been discussing stuff with HP.

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On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, David Feustel wrote:
> I just opened up the Jornada to install an additional 16 Mb ram.
> It appears that the rom module is easily replaceable. How hard
> is it likely to be to get Linux programmed into a Jornada rom module?

You'd have to do the port first.
For development, you'd be better off writing a wince boot loader.

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I've got an ebsa285 card but not the ARM SDT (only got the 
demonstration version, which doesn't have angel remote_a)

Is there any Linux tool or free dos tool to upload Linux kernel to 
ebsa285 flash memory ?

christophe
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>>>>> "christophe" == christophe leroy <christophe.leroy5@capway.com> writes:

 christophe> I've got an ebsa285 card but not the ARM SDT (only got
 christophe> the demonstration version, which doesn't have angel
 christophe> remote_a)

 christophe> Is there any Linux tool or free dos tool to upload Linux
 christophe> kernel to ebsa285 flash memory ?

I believe the flash writing tool (running under DOS) comes with the
EBSA285 card.  Look at the floppies that came with it.  You may need
to fiddle with it a bit to get it to work.  It's been a while since I
tried it but I remember having problems in some modes.  (For example,
it failed in "blank flash" mode but worked in normal mode??)

There's also a utility called "angelboot" that runs under Unix and
downloads over a serial line to the Angel code in flash segment zero.
I have been completely unsuccessful getting it to do anything, but
apparently others have had better luck.  (If anyone can tell me how to 
make it work I would very much appreciate it; so far I've heard
nothing.)

	paul
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Hi,

This patch is now on ftp.netwinder.org.  It should fix a few problems that 
people had with the previous patch.  Fingers crossed, NWFPE-as-module really 
should work this time and I added the LEDs bits that got missed before
around - basically you can now ask them to turn a particular colour.  BTW, 
it would be nice if someone with an EBSA-285 could try this and see whether 
the LEDs seem to do the right thing.

The floppy-DMA thing that I posted here the other day is now included.  If it 
eats your disks I'd like to hear about it.  And, uh, that's about it.

p.


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	christophe wrote: I've got an ebsa285 card but not the ARM SDT
	(only got the demonstration version, which doesn't have angel
	remote_a)

	Is there any Linux tool or free dos tool to upload Linux kernel
	to ebsa285 flash memory ?

I've created a very crude program to program the flash in the blank
programming mode. It has a module you have to load in order to access
the ROM. To program you have to run a simple program which allows you to
crash your computer if you get the address wrong :-) Let me know if
you're interested.

greetings,

Mark.
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Mark van Doesburg writes:
> 	christophe wrote: I've got an ebsa285 card but not the ARM SDT
> 	(only got the demonstration version, which doesn't have angel
> 	remote_a)
> 
> 	Is there any Linux tool or free dos tool to upload Linux kernel
> 	to ebsa285 flash memory ?
> 
> I've created a very crude program to program the flash in the blank
> programming mode. It has a module you have to load in order to access
> the ROM. To program you have to run a simple program which allows you to
> crash your computer if you get the address wrong :-) Let me know if
> you're interested.

I do have a working version of Digital's FMU (flash management utility)
which works under Linux on the EBSA285.  However, Digital have put a non-
freely distributable license on it, so I'm unable to distribute it.

Since the license has been transferred to Intel, what are the chances
of getting it changed? 0?
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I am attempting to build a linux kernel for the EBSA-285,
which I have running as a PCI slave.

I am building on Solaris. I have patched the 2.1.126 source
tree with the appropriate patches and run the make config
and make dep steps.

I believe I now need some tools. I already have GCC 2.8.1.

Do I need binutils - are these for cross compiling or only
for native systems?

I could not see a 2.9.1.0.15 source at the sites listed on the web
page, though there is a 2.9.1.0.19a.
Since the patch is only for 2.9.1.0.15, where do I get that?

When I have this succesfully built, what target should I be using
so that I can download to the EBSA-285 using Remote_A???


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I can not seem to get login/getty working. Any hints?

I've got linux 2.2.0 booting on an ebsa285 w/ the folowing "features"
	- mounting a root NFS file system. The file system image is titan-II-19990106.
	- The kernel is compiled w/ 
			CONFIG_SERIAL_21285=y
			CONFIG_SERIAL_21285_CONSOLE=y
	- The only way I was able to get the open of /dev/console to work
	was to:
		mknod syscons c 5 1
		ln -s syscons console
	- I replaced the mingetty's in etc/inittab w/ 
		getty.1:12345:respawn:/sbin/getty  ttyS0

I get a login prompt but I can not get the tty to respond.
I've tried various arguments at the end of the getty statement to no avail.

Thanks for any clues.

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Alex Holden wrote:

> On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, David Feustel wrote:
> > I just opened up the Jornada to install an additional 16 Mb ram.
> > It appears that the rom module is easily replaceable. How hard
> > is it likely to be to get Linux programmed into a Jornada rom module?
>

I cannot remember what flavour of flash device(s) it has.  As it's an 1100
derived
design, I'm guessing that it has a boot ROM and then an in-flash copy of
WinCE and
its applications.  That being so, you could remove the ROM, program it and
have another
boot path.

I don't believe that anyone has ported Linux to the Jornada - although there
is/was a
port to the SA-1100 (ITSY).

>
> You'd have to do the port first.
> For development, you'd be better off writing a wince boot loader.
>

True.   I think (and it is only think) that the Wince boot loader merely
swaps to the
image in flash (big flash as opposed to small flash or ROM).  The system may
do
this via address line swapping rather than the in ROM boot loader...



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I just found out last night that the Jornada has a commandline shell.
Start it up by clicking start -> run and then type cmd.exe.
Not very much functionality. Maybe no piping. Dir works :-).

David A Rusling wrote:
> 
> Alex Holden wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, David Feustel wrote:
> > > I just opened up the Jornada to install an additional 16 Mb ram.
> > > It appears that the rom module is easily replaceable. How hard
> > > is it likely to be to get Linux programmed into a Jornada rom module?
> >
> 
> I cannot remember what flavour of flash device(s) it has.  As it's an 1100
> derived
> design, I'm guessing that it has a boot ROM and then an in-flash copy of
> WinCE and
> its applications.  That being so, you could remove the ROM, program it and
> have another
> boot path.
> 
> I don't believe that anyone has ported Linux to the Jornada - although there
> is/was a
> port to the SA-1100 (ITSY).
> 
> >
> > You'd have to do the port first.
> > For development, you'd be better off writing a wince boot loader.
> >
> 
> True.   I think (and it is only think) that the Wince boot loader merely
> swaps to the
> image in flash (big flash as opposed to small flash or ROM).  The system may
> do
> this via address line swapping rather than the in ROM boot loader...
> 
> >
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>I believe I now need some tools. I already have GCC 2.8.1.
>
>Do I need binutils - are these for cross compiling or only
>for native systems?

You do indeed need binutils.  Just get the 2.9.1.0.19a source you found; it 
doesn't need any patches.  You might also consider using EGCS rather than gcc 
2.8.1.

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At 11:09 PM 2/10/99 +0000, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote:
>Mark van Doesburg writes:
>> 	christophe wrote: I've got an ebsa285 card but not the ARM SDT
>> 	(only got the demonstration version, which doesn't have angel
>> 	remote_a)
>> 
>> 	Is there any Linux tool or free dos tool to upload Linux kernel
>> 	to ebsa285 flash memory ?
>> 
>> I've created a very crude program to program the flash in the blank
>> programming mode. It has a module you have to load in order to access
>> the ROM. To program you have to run a simple program which allows you to
>> crash your computer if you get the address wrong :-) Let me know if
>> you're interested.
>
>I do have a working version of Digital's FMU (flash management utility)
>which works under Linux on the EBSA285.  However, Digital have put a non-
>freely distributable license on it, so I'm unable to distribute it.
>

You can reference it on the web though.

>Since the license has been transferred to Intel, what are the chances
>of getting it changed? 0?

Good question, I'll ask.  A better question (at least to me) is what
is ARM's view of low level firmware, utilities and open source?

Dave

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	I am attempting to build a linux kernel for the EBSA-285, which
	I have running as a PCI slave.

	I am building on Solaris. I have patched the 2.1.126 source tree
	with the appropriate patches and run the make config and make
	dep steps.

	I believe I now need some tools. I already have GCC 2.8.1.

I use egcs-1.1.1 19990115/Linux myself.

	Do I need binutils - are these for cross compiling or only for
	native systems?

You need binutils, otherwise you won't even be able to build the cross
compiler.

	I could not see a 2.9.1.0.15 source at the sites listed on the
	web page, though there is a 2.9.1.0.19a.  Since the patch is
	only for 2.9.1.0.15, where do I get that?

Binutils 2.9.1.0.19a should work without a patch.

	When I have this succesfully built, what target should I be
	using so that I can download to the EBSA-285 using Remote_A???

I don't think you can use the co-processor port since this needs a Linux
host. Currently only x86 hosts are tested. If you want to have a look
anyway I can mail you the patches (You need linux-2.1.132 for the EBSA
and linux-2.2.1 for the host)

greetings,

Mark.
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Russell King - ARM Linux Admin writes:
 > Mark van Doesburg writes:
 > > 	christophe wrote: I've got an ebsa285 card but not the ARM SDT
 > > 	(only got the demonstration version, which doesn't have angel
 > > 	remote_a)
 > > 
 > > 	Is there any Linux tool or free dos tool to upload Linux kernel
 > > 	to ebsa285 flash memory ?
 > > 
 > > I've created a very crude program to program the flash in the blank
 > > programming mode. It has a module you have to load in order to access
 > > the ROM. To program you have to run a simple program which allows you to
 > > crash your computer if you get the address wrong :-) Let me know if
 > > you're interested.
 > 
 > I do have a working version of Digital's FMU (flash management utility)
 > which works under Linux on the EBSA285.  However, Digital have put a non-
 > freely distributable license on it, so I'm unable to distribute it.
 > 
 > Since the license has been transferred to Intel, what are the chances
 > of getting it changed? 0?

I don't see how these tools will acomplish the final goal of getting the
kernel to boot. As far as I can tell the primary boot loader (in flash
block 0) isn't capable of loading an elf kernel which is what has been
generated by the kernel build. Converting this to axf format doesn't
seem to help as the 2nd conditional in head-armv.S tests r1 to determine
the board type (OK, we can bodge this).

Can someone out there who is running a linux kernel on an EBSA285
board please explain how to take the vmlinux generated by 'make all'
and get the thing to boot on an ebsa285 using tools which are publicly
available. [Sorry if I sound frustrated only I'm trying to write my
own boot loader (for linnux for an ebsa285) and is driving me cRaZYYY
:-)]

Note, the dos fmu tools etc. are available on Intels web site.
(follow links from
http://developer.intel.com/design/strong/sa-evaldownload.htm )

[BTW: Who is talking to who in HP about the Journada ? I might be 
interested in helping...]

Andrew
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Andrew Thomas wrote:
> 
> Russell King - ARM Linux Admin writes:
>  > Mark van Doesburg writes:
>  > >    christophe wrote: I've got an ebsa285 card but not the ARM SDT
>  > >    (only got the demonstration version, which doesn't have angel
>  > >    remote_a)
>  > >
>  > >    Is there any Linux tool or free dos tool to upload Linux kernel
>  > >    to ebsa285 flash memory ?
>  > >
>  > > I've created a very crude program to program the flash in the blank
>  > > programming mode. It has a module you have to load in order to access
>  > > the ROM. To program you have to run a simple program which allows you to
>  > > crash your computer if you get the address wrong :-) Let me know if
>  > > you're interested.
>  >
>  > I do have a working version of Digital's FMU (flash management utility)
>  > which works under Linux on the EBSA285.  However, Digital have put a non-
>  > freely distributable license on it, so I'm unable to distribute it.
>  >
>  > Since the license has been transferred to Intel, what are the chances
>  > of getting it changed? 0?
> 
> I don't see how these tools will acomplish the final goal of getting the
> kernel to boot. As far as I can tell the primary boot loader (in flash
> block 0) isn't capable of loading an elf kernel which is what has been
> generated by the kernel build. Converting this to axf format doesn't
> seem to help as the 2nd conditional in head-armv.S tests r1 to determine
> the board type (OK, we can bodge this).
> 
> Can someone out there who is running a linux kernel on an EBSA285
> board please explain how to take the vmlinux generated by 'make all'
> and get the thing to boot on an ebsa285 using tools which are publicly
> available. [Sorry if I sound frustrated only I'm trying to write my
> own boot loader (for linnux for an ebsa285) and is driving me cRaZYYY


	Well, its a hack, not elegant and only a temporary solution; It also
	probably has many hidden problems that I've yet to uncover. Thus far
	I'm up to mounting an NFS root FS and failing some where in the init
	process. But here is:

	Oh yea - I run the ebsa285 on a PCI backplane - maybe that matters:

	
        0.)     Make some changes to the start of head-armv.S. These things
would
                be done by a proper linux boot loader:
                        - Dissable interuptts, MMU, and caching, set mode to
                        supervisor.
                        - inittialize address 0x100 (i.e. PARAMS_BASE)
                        to some valid values (see arch/arm/kernel/setup.c 
                        (param_struct)) - maybe this is optional ?
                        - Set r0 to 0 and r1 to 4 and fall through to
                        the original code.

        1.)     I built the image as is - no changes to the build env.
        2.)     Strip the image, objcopy the image, wrap a AIF header around
                the image. The aif header says to load the image at 0x8000.
        3.)     Connect to the board w/ armsd and load the flash management 
                utility (fmu.axf)
        4)      Via fmu.axf program the image to one of the flash sectors.
        5.)     turn the roto switch on card to point to the correct sector.
        6)      exit the fmu and armsd and tip back into the card at 9600


	Other problems include:
		- the PCI code does not assign IO or Mem addresses to PCI devices
		- there are some assumptions in the PCI inerrupt mapping that didn't
		work for me.vPCI interupt mapping seems to assume that the ebsa board 
		is in the system slot of my PCI backplane (slot 3 has the same 
		interupt mapping as the system slot).
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	Inet Inc. - R & D
	dbaukus@inetinc.com
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Philip Blundell said:
> This patch is now on ftp.netwinder.org.  It should fix a few problems that 
> people had with the previous patch.  Fingers crossed, NWFPE-as-module really 
> should work this time and I added the LEDs bits that got missed before
> around - basically you can now ask them to turn a particular colour.  BTW, 
> it would be nice if someone with an EBSA-285 could try this and see whether 
> the LEDs seem to do the right thing.

Would you mind discussing/forwarding your changes and bug fixes to the relevent
maintainers at some point, rather than just overruling them snatching the maintainence
from them?  I find this extremely discourtious. (and you wonder why I jump down your
throat from time to time).

> The floppy-DMA thing that I posted here the other day is now included.  If it 
> eats your disks I'd like to hear about it.  And, uh, that's about it.

Have you tested it in the highest resolution?  Although I haven't checked yet,
from the calculations I did on Thursday night, there is only about 1us every 20us
(20us is about the period between each floppy FIQ) *worst case* to allow the
foreground task to run (incuding the execution of the actual FIQ routine.

A single floppy FIQ cycle occurs about every 20us, and *MUST* be loaded within
this time or else floppy corruption occurs.  What I'm not sure of is the latency
that can be allowed between the floppy requesting data and the data actually being
presented.  I would imagine that this is more stringent than 20us.

Given that a single floppy FIQ cycle occurs every 20us,

 - each video transfer consists of a 4 word DMA.  At the highest video resolution
   this occurs every 1.778us, and lasts 1.2us.  In a single FIQ cycle, the video
   transfer occurs 11.25 times, which gives a total bus usage of 13.5us.

 - the cursor DMA consists of a 4 word DMA.  This occurs every 31us.  Hence it will
   more than likely occur once every FIQ cycle and lasts 1.2us.

 - sound DMA consists of a 4 word DMA, which at 20kHz occurs every 50us.  It will
   take around 1.2us.

 - a podule access takes 1.2us for one cycle.  A 4 register LDM or STM would take
   around 3us.

 - this takes out about 18.9us worst case every 20us and does not include the
   time the ARM takes to synchronise with the FIQ request, enter the FIQ routine,
   process the FIQ and return from it.

Hence I still don't believe that shaving an extra couple of cycles off the FIQ
will give enough time to disable and enable FIQs, which is your main reason for
implementing this change.

NOTE that if the video FIFO settings in VIDC are not programmed correctly, even
with the FIQ code as is, you *will* get undetectable corruption of floppies when
you write to them (the disk controller does not appear to flag underruns as an
error).

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Dave Baukus said:
> 	Other problems include:
> 		- the PCI code does not assign IO or Mem addresses to PCI devices

Correct.  This should be done by a boot loader and not the kernel.  The Linux kernel
was never intended to boot up a system.

> 		- there are some assumptions in the PCI inerrupt mapping that didn't
> 		work for me.vPCI interupt mapping seems to assume that the ebsa board 
> 		is in the system slot of my PCI backplane (slot 3 has the same 
> 		interupt mapping as the system slot).

These aren't assumptions.  The fact of PCI is that there are at the most 4 interrupts.
On each card, these are labelled INTA, INTB, INTC, and INTD.  The mapping between
the physical connections on the motherboard and the slots is motherboard dependent,
but normally you have something like:

		System   Slot 1    Slot 2     Slot 3
		  A        B          C         D
		  B        C          D         A
		  C        D          A         B
		  D        A          B         C

Cards normally drive INTA, the first row.  Hence, if you plug the EBSA285 into the
system slot and a card into slot 1, then it's interrupt will normally be on System's
B.  However, if you plug the EBSA285 into slot 3, ut appears on C.

Therefore, if you don't plug the EBSA285 into the correct slot, it will not work, and
there's nothing that the kernel can really do at the moment.

This sort of stuff is normally handled by the machine's BIOS, and the results are
stored into the configuration registers on each card.

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Andrew Thomas said:
> Can someone out there who is running a linux kernel on an EBSA285
> board please explain how to take the vmlinux generated by 'make all'
> and get the thing to boot on an ebsa285 using tools which are publicly
> available. [Sorry if I sound frustrated only I'm trying to write my
> own boot loader (for linnux for an ebsa285) and is driving me cRaZYYY
> :-)]

Firstly, you should not be using the vmlinux file generated by 'make all'.
There is a binary image generated by 'make Image', called arch/arm/boot/Image
This is the file I use.

My EBSA285 is configured in Central Function mode, which means it is the
main processor in the system.  This allows it to configure the PCI cards.
I also have an ethernet card, and a utility called 'angelboot' which can
be used to download programs over the serial port.

Initially, I wrote a small ethernet boot loader for the EBSA-110 board,
and I adapted it for use with the EBSA285.  I frigged the build to get
the file to look like an AIF binary format which 'angelboot' will accept.

I downloaded this image which then in turn pulled the kernel off of
another machine via BOOTP and TFTP.  Once the kernel was running, at
the earliest opportunity, I programmed this loader into the EBSA285's
flash at image 2.

Later, once the kernel was stable, I generated what is almost a BIOS for
EBSA825 boards, but it is very limited to the hardware - it only supports
Promise UDMA IDE cards, 3com 3c509 and (very limited number of) Tulip ether
cards, and a S3 Trio64V2 VGA card.  I now have this programmed into flash
image 3, and it does all the hardware initialisation and kernel fetching.

Depending on what machines you have available, you will want to follow
a different path.  I would recommend, if you have the ARM SDT, generating
a program to load the kernel either over the PCI bus (if you have it in
a PC), or if you only have a serial port and ethernet card, developing
a very small TFTP loader.  I wouldn't recommend using the serial port
to transfer a large kernel - it'll take a long time to load it each
time.

I hope this helps.

> Note, the dos fmu tools etc. are available on Intels web site.
> (follow links from
> http://developer.intel.com/design/strong/sa-evaldownload.htm )

However, these are useless if you want to run them natively on the board
(they're only for x86 PCs or other CPUs, but not ARMs).

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philb@gnu.org said:
> So, if I read this right there should be no problem for any real-world 
> situation.  That's good.

Except your real-world argument was to claim an extra couple of cycles so
you can turn FIQs off.

I was in the process of doing the maths with all the latency issues, and
it really does not leave very much bandwidth for the FIQ operation and a
foreground operation running at the same time.  I need to recheck the
calculations and extrapolations, since most of the figures are derived
from the data sheets for the original MEMC, VIDC and ARM (and check it
on the actual hardware).

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On Thu, 11 Feb 1999, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote:

> Ok, we seem to have gotten our first spam on linux-arm.  I'm going to
> cause majordomo to filter off any mail which does not contain linux-arm
> in either the To: header or the CC: header.

People that like to BCC lists, take note, this will cause your message(s)  
to be dropped by majordomo. I don't do this, why other do, I don't know...
Please correct me if I'm wrong.

I applaud this change.

davez

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Dave Baukus said:
> I can not seem to get login/getty working. Any hints?
> 
> I've got linux 2.2.0 booting on an ebsa285 w/ the folowing "features"
> 	- mounting a root NFS file system. The file system image is titan-II-19990106.
> 	- The kernel is compiled w/ 
> 			CONFIG_SERIAL_21285=y
> 			CONFIG_SERIAL_21285_CONSOLE=y
> 	- The only way I was able to get the open of /dev/console to work
> 	was to:
> 		mknod syscons c 5 1
> 		ln -s syscons console

I don't think that this is 100% correct.  Please check the Documentation/devices.txt
for the correct special device settings for the console/tty devices.

> I get a login prompt but I can not get the tty to respond.
> I've tried various arguments at the end of the getty statement to no avail.

After you've hit a few keys on the terminal, can you cat /proc/interrupts and post
the results please?  It maybe that for some reason there are no serial receive
interrupts.

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Hiroshi Ishii said:
> On Sun, 7 Feb 1999 20:41:43 +0000 (GMT)
> Russell King - ARM Linux Admin <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> > > I'll upload it to the FTP site soon.
> > 
> > Ok, you should find it at:
> > 
> >  ftp.arm.linux.org.uk:/pub/armlinux/testing/Xarmlinux.gz
> 
> Good!! Please open its source too.

Same reasons apply to this as does the previous.  I'm *NOT* going
to upload 300MB of built source over an unreliable modem/telephone
network when there are other much better and far superior
alternatives already available on the internet which would be
far better for people to go and get.

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For some reason, sendmail seems to change its behaviour randomly.

At work, we have quite a few Intel Linux boxes.  For a long time, they
have worked perfectly.

However, lately, sendmail has started *absolutely* wanting to look up
the MX of the smart mail host and refusing to pass mail to the machine
unless it exists.

Now, it has passed mail to the mail host in the past with out it, and
no changes have been made.  Anyone got any ideas?

I've fixed it now by pointing it at the domain rather than at a specific
machine, which IMHO is wrong (since the sendmail config does say 'mail
host' and not 'mail domain').

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relevent.
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For some reason, sendmail seems to change its behaviour randomly.

At work, we have quite a few Intel Linux boxes.  For a long time, they
have worked perfectly.

However, lately, sendmail has started *absolutely* wanting to look up
the MX of the smart mail host and refusing to pass mail to the machine
unless it exists.

Now, it has passed mail to the mail host in the past with out it, and
no changes have been made.  Anyone got any ideas?

I've fixed it now by pointing it at the domain rather than at a specific
machine, which IMHO is wrong (since the sendmail config does say 'mail
host' and not 'mail domain').

Anyway, a load of my mail from the past two months should arrive shortly
on this list; some of it may be out of date, however some of it is
relevent.
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Mark van Doesburg writes:
> You can use: 
> 	arm-linux-objcopy vmlinux -O binary kernel_image

However, that's exactly what make Image does. ;)
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On Thu, 11 Feb 1999, Russell King wrote:

> Dave Baukus said:
> > I can not seem to get login/getty working. Any hints?
> > 
> > I've got linux 2.2.0 booting on an ebsa285 w/ the folowing "features"
[...]
> > I get a login prompt but I can not get the tty to respond.
> > I've tried various arguments at the end of the getty statement to no avail.

I experienced the same problem with a SA1100 kernel.
I needed the following patch for serial input to work with
2.2.0-pre9.  Maybe it can help you.

--- original/arch/arm/drivers/char/tty_io.c     Wed Jan 20 23:23:31 1999
+++ linux/arch/arm/drivers/char/tty_io.c        Wed Jan 20 21:37:56 1999
@@ -1911,6 +1911,7 @@
        tty->flip.pty_sem = MUTEX;
        tty->tq_hangup.routine = do_tty_hangup;
        tty->tq_hangup.data = tty;
+       sema_init(&tty->atomic_read, 1);
 }

 /*



Nicolas Pitre, B. ing.
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>Ok, we seem to have gotten our first spam on linux-arm.  I'm going to
>cause majordomo to filter off any mail which does not contain linux-arm
>in either the To: header or the CC: header.

Don't you think you're overreacting a little?

p.



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In the last mail Philip Blundell said:

> >Ok, we seem to have gotten our first spam on linux-arm.  I'm going to
> >cause majordomo to filter off any mail which does not contain linux-arm
> >in either the To: header or the CC: header.
> 
> Don't you think you're overreacting a little?

I think that that question can only be objectively answered with hindsight.
If the linux-arm list has got onto an e-mail address collection it might be the
start of a flood. On the other hand it might be a one off. If we really want to
know, then maybe in about a month Russel can post use one message telling us
what proportion of attempted mail got filtered off. (Being hideously busy, he
may well really not want to).

Personally I'm quite happy to see no spam whatsoever

Nick
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Russell King wrote:

>Would you mind discussing/forwarding your changes and bug fixes to the 
>relevent maintainers at some point, rather than just overruling them 
>snatching the maintainence from them?  I find this extremely discourtious.

Once I'm happy that the changes are correct, yes.  The only way for me to find 
this out is to ask other people to try them.  As you are so fond of pointing 
out, your "official" kernel is supposed to be stable so it probably isn't 
the best place to test experimental changes.  In fact if you consult the 
guidelines in the MAINTAINERS file, they explicitly suggest making patches 
available for testing before bothering the maintainer.

As always, if you'd like to discuss the patches then I'd be glad to hear 
your comments.

>(and you wonder why I jump down your throat from time to time).

Frankly I've long ago given up wondering about things like that.

>Have you tested it in the highest resolution?

No.  If necessary I'd be happy to do what RISC OS appears to and turn off 
video DMA in such modes during floppy access.  (And since in the 
highest-bandwidth modes the video DMA consumes over half the available bus 
bandwidth it will be pretty hard to get any work done in such a mode anyway.)

>Hence I still don't believe that shaving an extra couple of cycles off the FIQ
>will give enough time to disable and enable FIQs, which is your main reason 
>for implementing this change.

It was the main motivation for making the change in the first place, yes.  
Regardless of whether it actually achieves this objective or not do you see 
any reason not to install it?

Incidentally, remember that the ARM3 is of course cached and so it isn't 
impacted as badly by bus latencies as naive calculations might show.  And, 
although there is indeed all this DMA going on in the background it happens in 
many small chunks (after any of which the ARM can potentially get on the bus), 
not in one large uninterruptible lump.

p.


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Subject: Re: Flash upload to ebsa285 
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Russell King wrote:

>These aren't assumptions.  The fact of PCI is that there are at the most 4 
>interrupts.  On each card, these are labelled INTA, INTB, INTC, and INTD.

This is a slight oversimplification.  There are at most 4 interrupt outputs 
per PCI device, but in theory at least it would be possible for each one of 
these to attach to a separate input on the IO-APIC or whatever.

The "rotating irqs" scheme that you illustrated is a common compromise but 
it doesn't have to be done that way.  So yes, the kernel *does* contain 
assumptions about the wiring of the backplane but you're right that it has no 
way to know what the hardware looks like.

A slightly cleaner way to deal with this is the scheme that's used on CATS 
boards where the knowledge about the hardware layout is in the firmware rather 
than the kernel.  Of course this still doesn't allow you to take an EBSA-285, 
plug it into any slot in a random backplane with unknown wiring and have it 
work.  The only way to achieve that would be to autoprobe for IRQs which is 
generally considered bad form on PCI systems.

The advantage to putting the knowledge about routing in the kernel on the 
other hand is that it allows you to take four EBSA-285s, stick them in a 
passive backplane with one as the configuration master and the others as 
slaves, and they can all work out the interrupt mapping from one card to 
another.

p.


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On Fri, 12 Feb 1999 Matthew.Wilcox@genedata.com wrote:

Yes, several gentlemen pointed out it for me. Now everything is OK.

Thank you. 

> 
> Konstantyn Prokopenko wrote:
> 
> > I have Pentium 166 machine with Linux kernel 2.0.35. I decided to upgrade
> > kernel with 2.2.1. I compiled new kernel with 'make config; make dep; make
> > clean; make bzImage; make install'. Then I rebooted machine and after
> > uncompressing kernel I've got following messages after which machine died:
> 
> If you have a Pentium 166, I very much doubt it's an SGI Visual Workstation.
> So why did you turn on the option to support it when the help for that
> option explicitly says:
> 
>   A kernel compiled for the Visual Workstation will not run on other
>   PC boards and vice versa.
> 


Sincerely,

          K.V.P

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Nicolas Pitre writes:
> On Thu, 11 Feb 1999, Russell King wrote:
> > Dave Baukus said:
> > > I can not seem to get login/getty working. Any hints?
> > > 
> > > I've got linux 2.2.0 booting on an ebsa285 w/ the folowing "features"
> [...]
> > > I get a login prompt but I can not get the tty to respond.
> > > I've tried various arguments at the end of the getty statement to no avail.
> 
> I experienced the same problem with a SA1100 kernel.
> I needed the following patch for serial input to work with
> 2.2.0-pre9.  Maybe it can help you.

Ok, this'll be in my next patch release.
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Philip Blundell writes:
> >Ok, we seem to have gotten our first spam on linux-arm.  I'm going to
> >cause majordomo to filter off any mail which does not contain linux-arm
> >in either the To: header or the CC: header.
> 
> Don't you think you're overreacting a little?

Don't you think you're doing your best to make me even more annoyed with
you than I already am?
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Nicholas Clark writes:
> I think that that question can only be objectively answered with hindsight.
> If the linux-arm list has got onto an e-mail address collection it might be the
> start of a flood. On the other hand it might be a one off. If we really want to
> know, then maybe in about a month Russel can post use one message telling us
> what proportion of attempted mail got filtered off. (Being hideously busy, he
> may well really not want to).

Unfortunately, the majordomo on vger does not have the capability to do this.

> Personally I'm quite happy to see no spam whatsoever

Same here, and I know that people will drop off of the linux-arm list if
it gets spammed too many times.
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Subject: Re: Flash upload to ebsa285
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Philip Blundell writes:
> Russell King wrote:
> >These aren't assumptions.  The fact of PCI is that there are at the most 4 
> >interrupts.  On each card, these are labelled INTA, INTB, INTC, and INTD.
> 
> This is a slight oversimplification.  There are at most 4 interrupt outputs 
> per PCI device, but in theory at least it would be possible for each one of 
> these to attach to a separate input on the IO-APIC or whatever.

This doesn't seem to relate in any way to that which Phil has quoted.  In fact,
it seems to be agreeing totally with it, so where 'oversimplification' comes
in I have no idea.
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Philip Blundell writes:
> guidelines in the MAINTAINERS file, they explicitly suggest making patches 
> available for testing before bothering the maintainer.

I'm sorry - I can't find this in the Maintainers file.  Could you please
give me a line number?

> >Have you tested it in the highest resolution?
> 
> No.  If necessary I'd be happy to do what RISC OS appears to and turn off 
> video DMA in such modes during floppy access.  (And since in the 
> highest-bandwidth modes the video DMA consumes over half the available bus 
> bandwidth it will be pretty hard to get any work done in such a mode anyway.)

Oh well, maybe we ought to ensure that nothing above 320x256 works for anyone.
Then we'll have lots of bandwidth to play with.

I don't think that mode 31 (which is what those figures were determined from)
is that bad.

> >Hence I still don't believe that shaving an extra couple of cycles off the FIQ
> >will give enough time to disable and enable FIQs, which is your main reason 
> >for implementing this change.
> 
> Incidentally, remember that the ARM3 is of course cached and so it isn't 
> impacted as badly by bus latencies as naive calculations might show.  And, 
> although there is indeed all this DMA going on in the background it happens in 
> many small chunks (after any of which the ARM can potentially get on the bus), 
> not in one large uninterruptible lump.

Cache or no cache, the floppy DMA still has to move data, which will require
the bus.  I don't think that the cache will have much effect on the timings.
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Subject: large ethernet transfers killing ARMLinux
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I think I've now had four reset button job lockups from ARMLinux where I've
throwing large files over Ethernet. The most recent today was ftping a 83M
file in from Solaris box on the local Ethernet - after screens of # marks
everything locked up with 72M downloaded. After previous crashes I had a look
at /var/log/Messages and there's nothing at all there from the time of the
crash (no clues :-() I'm using an I cubed EtherH card in the network card
slot of an issue 3 motherboard 610 (October 1996) with a revision K
StrongARM, 38M in all and one 8.4G IBM HD (if any of that helps) with Kernel
2.0.35.

Willy appears to be getting similar (ie no warning, no clues) lockups with
an Ether3/4 card in his machine.

Any suggestions on what I should do? Or what further info I should supply?

Nick
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With the FDC in high-density (500kbps) mode, the peak interval between
requests for data is actually 16us, not 20us, as measured on the A5000.
Also, the 18.9us should be altered for the 36MHz MEMC clock instead of
the 24MHz MEMC clock, which is an estimated 12us.  (this is an over
simplification, since it takes no account of the VIDC transfer rate
for a built in mode definition).

However, as I have pointed out, the time for the ARM to load the required
byte when writing is more critical than this - it will not work if it
requests a byte and you load it 15.9us after.  That is what the old
residual checking that I had in my floppy driver was supposed to catch.

NOTE:  If you do exceed the required timing when writing, you will not
know about it until you try to read it.  Don't forget that Linux caches
the disk contents, so simply writing and then reading won't tell you
if it's written properly.  You need to close /dev/fd and eject the
disk between read and write (or call the BLKFLSBUF ioctl).
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Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote:
> 
> Philip Blundell writes:
> > >Ok, we seem to have gotten our first spam on linux-arm.  I'm going to
> > >cause majordomo to filter off any mail which does not contain linux-arm
> > >in either the To: header or the CC: header.
> >
> > Don't you think you're overreacting a little?
> 
> Don't you think you're doing your best to make me even more annoyed with
> you than I already am?

Your overreacting and annoying me with this drivel.

Scott
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Russell King wrote:

>Philip Blundell writes:
>> guidelines in the MAINTAINERS file, they explicitly suggest making patches 
>> available for testing before bothering the maintainer.
>
>I'm sorry - I can't find this in the Maintainers file.  Could you please
>give me a line number?

About lines 7 to 40.  Firstly one is exhorted to "release a few alpha test 
versions to the net", then to make the patch "generally available for 
testing", and only after that to send it to the maintainer in a form ready for 
merging.

>> No.  If necessary I'd be happy to do what RISC OS appears to and turn off 
>> video DMA in such modes during floppy access.  (And since in the 
>> highest-bandwidth modes the video DMA consumes over half the available bus 
>> bandwidth it will be pretty hard to get any work done in such a mode anyway.
>
>Oh well, maybe we ought to ensure that nothing above 320x256 works for anyone.
>Then we'll have lots of bandwidth to play with.

If you want to continue this discussion in a constructive manner, fine.  If 
you don't want to continue it at all, that's also fine.  This sort of comment 
just wastes everybody's time.

>Cache or no cache, the floppy DMA still has to move data, which will require
>the bus.  I don't think that the cache will have much effect on the timings.

Why don't you analyse the actual code sequences, figure out whether the 
latency *would* in fact be too long, and then report back your findings?  I 
don't see much benefit in speculation.

If the answer is that disabling FIQs while updating the IRQ mask is 
unacceptable, do you have any alternative suggestions for solving the actual 
problem at hand (ie preventing contention on the IRQ mask registers betweeen 
two threads)?

p.


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I too have noticed that large ethernet transfers can lock up
ARMLinux (2.2.1 and previous ones).  This can happen quicker
if disk I/O is active at the same time.  But without too much
disk I/O active, it still happens.   It can happen when you
use non-flow controlled "flooding" via UDP or ICMP against
ARMLinux ethernet device, but you can also cause it happen
with TCP programs (ttcp for example) under stress.  I've seen
this happen with DEC21143 ethernet on a couple of different
SA110 based computers.  The result is quite consistent failure.
Right now this is the only instability I see in the current
kernel release.

-- 
Hwa Jin Bae
PSO Systems Inc
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In the last mail Hwa Jin Bae said:

> with TCP programs (ttcp for example) under stress.  I've seen
> this happen with DEC21143 ethernet on a couple of different
> SA110 based computers.  The result is quite consistent failure.
> Right now this is the only instability I see in the current
> kernel release.

Interesting - so if these are the same thing then it's probably not anything
wrong with Acorn or third party hardware.
Most recent lock up was 191K into my ftp (from Easynet in London to a machine
in Liverpool University, so even going off JANET I've got enough bandwith to
kill it! :-(

Nick
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Well... I am not saying that it is not related to a particular
HW or driver.  I am not saying that it is generic ARM Linux
kernel problem.   At least in my environment I am inclined to
believe that it may be related to PCI bus master related driver level
issues.  That's where I have been trying to debug.  Modifying
the latency timer and cache line values in the PCI config registers
help a little, but does not fix the problem.  I'm still looking...

Nicholas Clark wrote:

> Interesting - so if these are the same thing then it's probably not anything
> wrong with Acorn or third party hardware.
> Most recent lock up was 191K into my ftp (from Easynet in London to a machine
> in Liverpool University, so even going off JANET I've got enough bandwith to
> kill it! :-(
> 
> Nick

-- 
Hwa Jin Bae
PSO Systems Inc
mailto:hjb@pso.com
http://www.pso.com
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On Fri, 12 Feb 1999, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote:

> > >Ok, we seem to have gotten our first spam on linux-arm.  I'm going to
> > >cause majordomo to filter off any mail which does not contain linux-arm
> > >in either the To: header or the CC: header.
> > 
> > Don't you think you're overreacting a little?
> 
> Don't you think you're doing your best to make me even more annoyed with
> you than I already am?

Children, children.  This thread has already consumed more time
and bandwidth than the spam did.

I thought Linux was about doing things efficiently.

Matthew.

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Ok, for those who wanted a new Partition Manager, please find
PartMan 1.13-alpha9 on the FTP site/WEB site.  It has most formats
enabled now, so it should be useful on ICS IDEFS, Acorn ADFS,
Powertec SCSI II, and some PC formatted disks.

When testing it, you should back up your drives, and once you've
used PartMan, please take a copy of everything in Pipe:$.C_Debug -
this is a 'temporary' filesystem which will contain some extremely
useful data to aid debugging.  Without this, debugging is very
nearly impossible.

Thanks.
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Subject: Re: large ethernet transfers killing ARMLinux
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Nicholas Clark writes:
> I think I've now had four reset button job lockups from ARMLinux where I've
> throwing large files over Ethernet. The most recent today was ftping a 83M
> file in from Solaris box on the local Ethernet - after screens of # marks
> everything locked up with 72M downloaded. After previous crashes I had a look
> at /var/log/Messages and there's nothing at all there from the time of the
> crash (no clues :-() I'm using an I cubed EtherH card in the network card
> slot of an issue 3 motherboard 610 (October 1996) with a revision K
> StrongARM, 38M in all and one 8.4G IBM HD (if any of that helps) with Kernel
> 2.0.35.

This is very interesting, since I just cannot reproduce any here.  The
following FTP was performed between a NetWinder (disk build #13, kernel
2.0.35) and my RiscPC (2.0.36) on a 10bT connection via a Allied Telesyn
CentreCOM hub.  I've repeated this several times in succession, and these
are the FTP messages I got each time.

62126480 bytes received in 109 secs (5.5e+02 Kbytes/sec)
62124288 bytes received in 108 secs (5.6e+02 Kbytes/sec)
62125916 bytes received in 110 secs (5.5e+02 Kbytes/sec)
62123240 bytes received in 109 secs (5.6e+02 Kbytes/sec)

The interface stats are:

eth0      Link encap:10Mbps Ethernet  HWaddr 00:C0:32:00:7C:F9
          inet addr:192.168.0.3  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:181863 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
          TX packets:52588 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
          Interrupt:11 Base address:0xae00

I have also used in the past ttcp between to ARM Linux boxes, and have not
noticed any crashes.

However, having said that, the EBSA-110 crashed while running 2.2.1 this
week, but I haven't been able to reproduce this problem.  I believe that
this particular problem was caused by the ethernet driver dying.

Hwa - do you have the SysRQ stuff enabled in your kernel?  Does it still
work after the crash?
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On Fri, 12 Feb 1999, Nicholas Clark wrote:
> If the linux-arm list has got onto an e-mail address collection it might be
> the start of a flood. On the other hand it might be a one off. If we

Note that Linux-Kernel and Linux-Hams both got the same spam. I think
somebody just noticed that there were a lot of mailing lists on vger,
asked majordomo for a list of them, and posted the spam to all of them.
Hopefully it was a one-off (even if it wasn't, there are plenty of people
on Linux-kernel who make a habit of getting spammers accounts cancelled).

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Hello there;

I am designing a ARM110 board around Intel's (formerly DEC's) EBSA-285
evaluation board. This board will have a SA-110 with it's companion chip,
the 21285. It will hook up to Symbios's NCR53C895 Ultra 2 SCSI controller,
and Intel's 82559 Ethernet controller.

I have looked at the Linux-Arm port, and it seems that the EBSA-285
configuration is supported. I have some questions about the port, hopefully
someone can answer:
- What is the status of the EBSA-285 port? Have most of the bugs been worked
out?
- Although there are Linux drivers for the 53C895 and 82559 (82558, which is
pin/software compatible), what problems will we have in porting the drivers
over to the platform?
- It was mentioned that the Tulip driver (Intel's ethernet chipset) has bugs
in it. Will those bugs be relevant to our SCSI/Ethernet port?
- What is the general feeling on the performance of the StrongArm?

What is the story with Intel? My supplier says Intel is not quoting lead
times on it's StrongArm parts. Supposedly, when they received the stock from
DEC as part of the deal, they double counted it. Now they have over
committed, and are doing an internal audit. This scares me, and although the
port seems very stable for the StrongArm, NEC's MIPs chipsets (the VR4300
and VRC4373) look very tempting.

Cheers


{- Stephen Noftall, LCS : http://www.lcsaudio.com -}

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>- What is the status of the EBSA-285 port? Have most of the bugs been worked
>out?

It seems stable enough.  Most of the code is shared with the NetWinder and 
CATS ports.  There have been reports recently of lockups under heavy network 
activity but that's the only problem I'm aware of.

>- Although there are Linux drivers for the 53C895 and 82559 (82558, which is
>pin/software compatible), what problems will we have in porting the drivers
>over to the platform?

They'll need appropriate cache synchronisation primitives adding, since the 
StrongARM doesn't do this in hardware.  Other than that there shouldn't be any 
problems.  PCI drivers are usually pretty well behaved.

>- It was mentioned that the Tulip driver (Intel's ethernet chipset) has bugs
>in it. Will those bugs be relevant to our SCSI/Ethernet port?

The Tulip is the 21040 family that Intel bought from Digital.  Regardless of 
whether it's buggy or not (I've never had ay serious problems with it) the 
82558 won't be affected.

>- What is the general feeling on the performance of the StrongArm?

Depends too much on your application.  If you want to try for yourself you can 
beg, steal, borrow or buy one of the various StrongARM machines and have a play 
with it.  Typically you get 200+MIPS of integer performance.  I don't know if 
anybody's measured floating point speed with the currently available emulators.

>What is the story with Intel? My supplier says Intel is not quoting lead

I can't answer that.  MIPS would probably be my next choice as well, or maybe 
PowerPC.  Neither of those, as far as I know, will give you anything like the 
integer performance of the StrongARM at the same price, though in terms of 
floating point performance and integrated peripherals they do rather better.
Again it all depends on your application.

p.


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Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote:

> Hwa - do you have the SysRQ stuff enabled in your kernel?  Does it still
> work after the crash?

My target machine only has serial console (no keyboard port).  However
I also have a CATS machine, so I will try to see what happens on that
later on.  

One thing I noticed in tulip.c driver -- it has a "while (1) ;" in a
couple
of places when transmit error happens.  I think original writer of 
this driver wanted to debug if the error happened.  Unfortunately
when it does happen (and I can make it happen in my stress test
on my HW ), the driver busy loops forever in the kernel.  I took
it out and the driver keeps on working (no more hangups!).

However there is still one more problem -- when sending a lot of data
out from ARM linux via tulip to outside machines, back-to-back,
flooding as fast as possible, the tulip transmitter seems to
halt the driver.  Subsequent ifconfig down/up revives it.   I am
trying to debug this now.  This seems to be the only problem I can
think of, in terms of stability.  

Oh... one more thing when I had IDE in PIO mode, when IDE and ethernet
are both busy it seems to behave badly.  I ported latest PDC20246
(promise) driver code that does UDMA a little better and I am
exclusively running in UDMA mode with Quantum drives now.  It works
well.

Other than that, 2.2.1 is quite stable, very good work all of you!
Thanks.

-- 
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PSO Systems Inc
mailto:hjb@pso.com
http://www.pso.com
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A little update on the Ethernet under heavy load problem.
I finally traced down the "problem" to interrupt handling routine
tulip_interrupt().   When there are a lot of packets coming in
from the net (because my stress test program or benchmark
program is flooding the ethernet port), the interrupt handler
doesn't handle this gracefully.  It has a single global that
indicates the desired work load to handle each time the
handler is called (perhaps to limit spending too much
time in interrupt handler).  This is 'max_interrupt_work'
which is aliased to work_budget.  Needless to say when
flooding, we run out of work_budget.  The handler clears
all interrupts when this happens and returns.  I am not
sure if this is graceful enough -- it certains makes the
driver no longer function properly (I/O doesn't happen
correctly any more).  

To solve my particular problem (of surviving all the torture
test I have here), I hacked up a couple of parameters:
namely RX_RING_SIZE and max_interrupt_work.  I increased
these values and so far everything seems to work very
stable.  No, I'm not going to say what numbers I'm using
because it's such a horrible way of "fixing" the problem.
I'm just mentioning this here in case someone else wants
to "pass" things like netperf and netbench (gasp!).

-- 
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PSO Systems Inc
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*** This is not for discussion, but is only intended to be informative.
*** Please do not post replies to this to the list.  I hope that this
*** is non-confontational.

I am unhappy with the situation that is occuring in the linux-arm world,
and feel that this has been going on for some time.  The events of this
week have caused me to do some re-thinking.

This is the story of events:

As all of you should know, I posted on Sunday the release note for the
latest patch to the Linux kernel, patch-2.2.1-rmk2.gz.  This contained
the usual bits and pieces after a weekends work on the Acorn A5000
architecture.

On Monday evening, I tried compiling the code for my Risc PC, a StrongARM
based machine.  However, I found a problem that would prevent the
compilation from succeeding for any ARM6, ARM7 or StrongARM based
hardware.  Obviously this is a serious problem, however at the time
I didn't have the opportunity to generate a new patch.  However, I was
slightly supprised to find that *no one* had picked it up, but not
concerned.  Philip released his patches that night, and later when
I got his patches to have a look at them, I noticed that he had fixed
the problem.  I also found that he had modified some code that was partly
under my ownership and partly under Alex Holden's ownership.

Philip also proposed a change to the FIQ code on Acorn machines into
public.  I would have thought that it should have been sent to me
directly, rather than to the mailing list.

These are some excerpts from various emails that I received on Tuesday:
--
Philip:
> Me:
> >I'm getting concerned at the number of apparantly sundry changes that are
> >appearing in your patches.  My areas of concern are:
> >
> > - LEDs stuff.
>   - the LEDs stuff was changed to address some issues that Woody
>     brought up with performance, modules and the NetWinder.
--
Philip:
> Me:
> >What performance issues are there, and where do modules come into the LED
> >driver?
>
> The old LED driver was somewhat inefficient.  I'm not personally convinced
> this was a big deal but some people were concerned about it and it seemed
> worth experimenting with the alternatives.
>
> Modules come into it because they may want to play with the LED state.  The
> NetWinder flash driver is an example.
--
Philip:
> Me:
> >I ask my self from time to time, why do people mention these things to you
> >and not to me?
>
> One can only speculate.
--
Philip:
> Me
> >Hang on.  I write the driver and people contact you?
>
> Apparently so.
--

On Wednesday, I find that Philip has released yet another patch, in response
to bug reports for his code.

Finally, on Friday, the following ensued:

Philip:
> Me:
> >Would you mind discussing/forwarding your changes and bug fixes to the
> >relevent maintainers at some point, rather than just overruling them
> >snatching the maintainence from them?  I find this extremely discourtious.
> 
> Once I'm happy that the changes are correct, yes.  The only way for me to find
> this out is to ask other people to try them.  As you are so fond of pointing
> out, your "official" kernel is supposed to be stable so it probably isn't
> the best place to test experimental changes.  In fact if you consult the
> guidelines in the MAINTAINERS file, they explicitly suggest making patches
> available for testing before bothering the maintainer.
Later:
Philip:
> Me:
> >I'm sorry - I can't find this in the Maintainers file.  Could you please
> >give me a line number?
> 
> About lines 7 to 40.  Firstly one is exhorted to "release a few alpha test
> versions to the net", then to make the patch "generally available for
> testing", and only after that to send it to the maintainer in a form ready for
> merging.

Now, looking at the file actually says:
1. Always _test_ your changes, however small, on at least 4 or 5 people,
   preferably many more.
2. ... Announce them onto the kernel channel and await results. ...
5. Make a patch available to the relevant maintainer in the list.

My understanding of point (2) is to let the maintainer know that there are
changes in existance for his bit of code, so that the maintainer knows what
is going on.  Maybe this is a misunderstanding?

Also, linux-arm (and apparantly a lot of other lists) got spammed.  I decided,
since I did not want the mailing list to be come swampped with spam, to change
the rules to protect those subscribed.  This does not mean that I don't get
the spam - I still receive it from Majordomo.  I got a few welcoming public
responses from it, and what I consider a damn right overreacted public response
from Philip, which IMHO should have been in private mail.



To date, there have been 70 downloads of the latest kernel patch this
week since I uploaded it on February 7th, zero bug reports about the patch,
and two patches, one to fix a small bug in tty_io.c and another to add the
Philips LED stuff.  Thanks to those who sent them to me.  However, still no
one has reported the bug.

>From my point of view, producing all these patches once or twice a week
and getting very little feedback on them, I'm wondering what it is that
I am actually doing?  Am I just someone who takes patches from Philip,
puts them in my tree, uploads them, and sends stuff onto Linus?  Or do
I actually maintain the kernel?  I'm not sure which it is at the moment.

I thank those Acorn users out there who have given me feedback on various
driver problems - that is very much appreciated.

I can draw the only conclusion that no one out there is really interested
in my work.  On Saturday, I was questioning whether it was really worth
continuing.

And on that note, I shall leave you to draw your own conclusions.  Again,
please do not post replies to the list - I don't want another flame war.
Thanks.
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Appologies for the duplicate mailings; sendmail 8.8.7 doesn't lock the
mail queue properly.  I'll try to sort it out.
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Philip Blundell wrote:

> If necessary I'd be happy to do what RISC OS appears to and turn off
> video DMA in such modes during floppy access.

<NOSTALGIA>
Yes! I used to get that flashing screen during floppy access on the
ancient Acorns (pre-1990, the ARM2 ones with the slow MEMC).
</NOSTALGIA>

On a more serious note: lurking on this list for a few months taught me
(among many other things) that two important contributors to ARM Linux
like to take a swipe at each other from time to time.

Please don't let this escalate. That wouldn't do Linux in general, or
anyone in particular, any good.


'bye,

Mark Koek
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In the last mail sender01@iname.com said:
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Arse. These spam merchants evolve too damn fast. Now they know that they have
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>Arse. These spam merchants evolve too damn fast. Now they know that they have
>to include themselves in the headers. Is there any sane way apart from
>moderation (which I don't think we want) which can filter them, yet
>allow legitimate unsubscribed humans to mail the list?

Matti seemed to be muttering that the RBL is now enabled on vger.  Let's see 
if that helps.

p.


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After a recent abortive atempt to compile gcc 2.8.1 I removed everything
in preperation to start again. However now anything I try to compile stops
with errors relating to undefined references to _fxstat, _lxstat etc.
I've unrpm'ed all the original development tools but to no avail. I was
hoping someone could point me to what or where it's going wrong.


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I'm having problems building a cross compiler on solaris.
When running  make, I get:

checking whether the C compiler (arm-linux-gcc -g -O2 ) works... no
configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler
cannot create executables.
gmake: *** [configure-target-libiberty] Error 1

Before I got to this stage, I had the egcs-1.1.1 source,
and got 3 patch files for it that I applied consecutively:

egcs-1.1.1-prerelease-2-arm-diff-981117.gz
egcs-1.1.1-prerelease-2-arm-diff-981117-981124
egcs-1.1.1-prerelease-2-arm-diff-981124-981125

I got the following message during the final patch:

patching file `gcc/f/intdoc.texi'
Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected!  Assume -R? [y]

I created an egcs-1.1.1-build dir, and from there ran:

 ../egcs-1.1.1/configure --target=arm-linux
--prefix=/home/elph/tjl/work/sw/armlinux/

and then ran make.

What am I doing wrong?


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>Before I got to this stage, I had the egcs-1.1.1 source,
>and got 3 patch files for it that I applied consecutively:
>
>egcs-1.1.1-prerelease-2-arm-diff-981117.gz
>egcs-1.1.1-prerelease-2-arm-diff-981117-981124
>egcs-1.1.1-prerelease-2-arm-diff-981124-981125

Try getting the latest patch from ftp.netwinder.org:/users/p/philb.  I think 
it's dated 990113 or thereabouts.  (I don't think this is your problem; just 
as a matter of general principle it's best to use the latest sources.)

>What am I doing wrong?

Probably nothing, in fact.  The cross-compiler has been built and is now being 
used to try to cross-compile the target libraries.  This fails because you 
haven't yet installed the target runtime system (ie glibc).

There are some notes about this sort of thing on my web site 
(http://www.tazenda.demon.co.uk/phil/armlinux) and I think they mention this 
and what you can do about it.

p.


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>in preperation to start again. However now anything I try to compile stops
>with errors relating to undefined references to _fxstat, _lxstat etc.
>I've unrpm'ed all the original development tools but to no avail. I was
>hoping someone could point me to what or where it's going wrong.

It sounds like your C library is somehow screwed up.  Have you tried to 
install glibc at any point?  If so you might have ended up with header files 
that don't match the actual library.

Try reinstalling the original libc from the binary distribution.  BTW, you may 
like to consider egcs-1.1.1 rather than gcc 2.8.1 for your next attempt at 
building the compiler. :-)

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On Tue, 16 Feb 1999, Philip Blundell wrote:

> >in preperation to start again. However now anything I try to compile stops
> >with errors relating to undefined references to _fxstat, _lxstat etc.
> >I've unrpm'ed all the original development tools but to no avail. I was
> >hoping someone could point me to what or where it's going wrong.
> 
> It sounds like your C library is somehow screwed up.  Have you tried to 
> install glibc at any point?  If so you might have ended up with header files 
> that don't match the actual library.
> 
> Try reinstalling the original libc from the binary distribution.  BTW, you may 
> like to consider egcs-1.1.1 rather than gcc 2.8.1 for your next attempt at 
> building the compiler. :-)
> 
> p.
> 
I was under the impression that I had reinstalled these, unless I have to
do something else to make sure it's using those libs.

egcs was planned as well, but when I started this little adventure 1.1.1
wasn't released, so I felt it best to start small

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>I was under the impression that I had reinstalled these, unless I have to
>do something else to make sure it's using those libs.

No, you shouldn't need to do anything special.  Are you sure you installed the 
package with the headers in (probably libc-devel) as well as the libraries 
themselves?

>egcs was planned as well, but when I started this little adventure 1.1.1
>wasn't released, so I felt it best to start small

Fair enough.

p.


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All that I can say is that I followed Phil's directions and file/patch
pointers
and ended up with a cross a.out build environment that works fine for
2.0.36 based
kernels.  This suites me for now...



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I've now got everything needed to download aif files on EBSA285 
Flash. Now, I'd like to know two things:
- Can put zImage in flash to be executed at 0x8000 and it will work, 
or is there other initialisations to be done before booting kernel. If 
so, where can I find such a "boot loader" ?
- Where can I find something to put aif header around zImage ?

- Is there a way to load a ramdisk appended at the end of kernel in 
flash, just like you do with a floppy on a PC x86 ?

Thanks 

Christophe

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>- Can put zImage in flash to be executed at 0x8000 and it will work, 
>or is there other initialisations to be done before booting kernel. If 
>so, where can I find such a "boot loader" ?

Almost but not quite.  You need to load a couple of registers with magic 
numbers before calling the kernel.  Also you need to be in supervisor mode 
with the MMU off but this may well already be the case in your environment.
If you look in the archives for this mailing list you can probably find a bit 
of code I posted a while back for booting kernels on a CATS board where the 
situation is slightly similar.  (If you can't find it, mail me and I'll send 
it to you.)

p.


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On Tue, 16 Feb 1999, John Lindley wrote:

> After a recent abortive atempt to compile gcc 2.8.1 I removed everything
> in preperation to start again. However now anything I try to compile stops
> with errors relating to undefined references to _fxstat, _lxstat etc.
> I've unrpm'ed all the original development tools but to no avail. I was
> hoping someone could point me to what or where it's going wrong.

This could be due to a mismatch in the heaader-files that came with
the libc-4 package. Grep through all of them for the appearance of _fxstat
or _lxstat. In the /usr/lib/gcc-lib/2.7.??-directory there is a correct
replacement for this. (Don´t delete the old *.h file, rename it so that
the changes can be undone if anything goes wrong!!!)

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On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, Russell King wrote:

>Chris Nelson said:
>> Richard Barber wrote:
>> > I ran the installer, it was able to recognize the SCSI card, the Network
>> > card and the PPA Zip drive (all on autoprobe) and I was able to specify
>> > /dev/sda4 as root partition and /dev/sda5 as swap. Installing from the
>> > Zip disk (/dev/sdb?, something) it seemed to successfully install....
>> 
>> Basically, I had exactly the same problem trying to install Linux on my
>> RPC600 + StrongARM + Powertek SCSI II + SyJet 1.5GB.  From my experiences, 
>> I had to deduce that there is no SCSI support in the install Kernel, and it 
>> has to be loaded as a module during boot up.  Unfortunately, if your system 
>> is all on a SCSI drive, it can't get to the module (or the Kernel if you 
>> attempt a normal boot).
Hmm...yes...I've put a 50MB root partition on my ADFS drive now (after a
couple of visits to HForm) but still no cigar (although it does at
least now get me to a root prompt)...

>There is a solution, and it's sitting on a CD Image on my machine.  It's
>a fully populated RedHat CD ROM for ARM Linux.

Is the CD image a solution to Chris's problem (SCSI not working on a
recompiled kernel) or mine (SCSI II module not in the original install
kernel)?, or both ?!

Rich


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To:             	christophe.leroy5@capway.com
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Subject:        	Re: Booting Linux on ebsa285 
Date sent:      	Tue, 16 Feb 1999 15:07:05 +0000
From:           	Philip Blundell <pb@nexus.co.uk>

> >- Can put zImage in flash to be executed at 0x8000 and it will work, 
> >or is there other initialisations to be done before booting kernel. If 
> >so, where can I find such a "boot loader" ?
> 
> Almost but not quite.  You need to load a couple of registers with magic 
> numbers before calling the kernel.  Also you need to be in supervisor mode 
> with the MMU off but this may well already be the case in your environment.
> If you look in the archives for this mailing list you can probably find a bit 
> of code I posted a while back for booting kernels on a CATS board where the 
> situation is slightly similar.  (If you can't find it, mail me and I'll send 
> it to you.)
> 

Thanks, but I can't find archives of this mailing list. All archives 
listed on www.arm.uk.linux.org have stopped since August 98

So if you can tell me where archives are or send me a copy of your 
tools, It would be nice

Christophe
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Who/what is the right person/place to forward gcc/egcs ARM compiler bugs
to?

We've found a compiler bug which occurs under both egcs and gcc:
- egcs-1.1.1 using the rpms from rawhide.redhat.com
- gcc version 2.8.1

when the optimizer is turned on.  I've narrowed it down to a very small
piece of code, but I don't know where to submit the bug report.  Any
suggestions?

			-Debby

PS  The code sample is included below.  When optimization is off, the code
output is:
Expect 65535, 0, 0  ->  65535 0 0
when optimization is on, the code output is:
Expect 65535, 0, 0  ->  65535 0 1

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

#include <stdio.h>

typedef struct {
  unsigned int beg;
} help1_t;

main()
{
  help1_t foo;

  foo.beg = (unsigned int)(-1);

  printf("Expect 65535, 0, 0  ->  %d %d %d\n",
	 ( (unsigned short)foo.beg ),
	 ( (unsigned short)foo.beg != (unsigned short)65535 ),
	 (
	  ( (unsigned short)foo.beg != (unsigned short)65535 )
	  && 
	  ( (unsigned short)foo.beg != (unsigned short)65535 )
	  )
	 );


  return(0);
}

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Since my previous problems, things have got worse. I have been getting
memory violation errors during bootup, at the point where the network is
initialised. Then after unrpm'ing the devlopment libraries I got memory
violations on every commands with the console evetually diabling.

However after I reset the computer so I might be able to gain access again
the computer now locks in a perpetual loop with an error from init saying

memory violation : pc = 0x00c00470, lr = 0xa000bb24 (bad address = 
0x00c00470, code 3)

Is this the end? I haven't yet tried using a boot disc, but as I have been
contemplating a fresh install onto a new SCSI disc, this may be the time

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Hi,

I'm new to this, so I just retrieved the FAQ from
http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/~rmk/armlinux/faq.html

It is dated 14-Oct-1998 (4 months ago). Is this the latest version or is
there a more recent version available from somewhere else?

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- Still 23 months to go until the next millenium...
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Folks,

I'm trying to get Linux up on an EBSA-285 board. The source I'm
using is 2.2.1 with patch-2.2.1-19990128-1.gz applied, but
I'm having no luck getting the kernel to boot.

I've modified head-armv.S to set r0/r1 and setup_arch() in setup.c so
that params = NULL; and have tried faking an aif header (this didn't
work). I also wrote a little loader which can plant 'debugging code'
the result of which suggests the bug is in 
setup_pagetables (inlined into paging_init) at this point:

	/*
	 * unmap everything else
	 */
	for (address = end_mem; address; address += PGDIR_SIZE)
		free_init_section(address);

So, before I proceed any further, could someone sucessfully running
a kernel on an ebsa-285 board let me know which kernel (and patches)
they are running, what PCI cards they have (or a copy of their
.config) and finally whether they have the 21285 working as a console...

Thanks,

Andrew
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Why does it compiled vfat and msdos (look at my .config at the 
end) (yes, I've done make dep and make clean)

christophe

/usr/local/bin/arm-linux-ld -m elf32arm -T /usr/src/linux.2.2.1-
arm/arch/arm/vmlinux-armv.lds -e stext -Ttext 0xC0008000 
arch/arm/kernel/head-armv.o arch/arm/kernel/init_task.o init/main.o 
init/version.o \
--start-group \
arch/arm/kernel/kernel.o arch/arm/mm/mm.o kernel/kernel.o 
mm/mm.o fs/fs.o ipc/ipc.o \
fs/filesystems.a \
net/network.a \
drivers/block/block.a drivers/char/char.a drivers/misc/misc.a 
drivers/net/net.a drivers/pci/pci.a arch/arm/special/special.a 
arch/arm/nwfpe/math-emu.a \
arch/arm/lib/lib.a /usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/lib/lib.a `/usr/local/bin/arm-
linux-gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux.2.2.1-arm/include  -
mshort-load-bytes -march=armv4 -mtune=strongarm110 --print-
libgcc-file-name` \
	--end-group \
	-o vmlinux
fs/filesystems.a(msdos.o): In function `msdos_put_super':
msdos.o(.text+0xc): undefined reference to `fat_put_super'
msdos.o(.text+0xc): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_put_super
fs/filesystems.a(msdos.o): In function `msdos_find':
msdos.o(.text+0x45c): undefined reference to `fat_scan'
msdos.o(.text+0x45c): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_scan
fs/filesystems.a(msdos.o): In function `msdos_read_super':
msdos.o(.text+0x5c4): undefined reference to `fat_read_super'
msdos.o(.text+0x5c4): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_read_super
fs/filesystems.a(msdos.o): In function `msdos_lookup':
msdos.o(.text+0x658): undefined reference to `fat_brelse'
msdos.o(.text+0x658): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_brelse
fs/filesystems.a(msdos.o): In function `msdos_create_entry':
msdos.o(.text+0x744): undefined reference to `fat_scan'
msdos.o(.text+0x744): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_scan
msdos.o(.text+0x778): undefined reference to `fat_add_cluster'
msdos.o(.text+0x778): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_add_cluster
msdos.o(.text+0x79c): undefined reference to `fat_scan'
msdos.o(.text+0x79c): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_scan
msdos.o(.text+0x838): undefined reference to `fat_date_unix2dos'
msdos.o(.text+0x838): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_date_unix2dos
msdos.o(.text+0x850): undefined reference to `fat_mark_buffer_dirty'
msdos.o(.text+0x850): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_mark_buffer_dirty
msdos.o(.text+0x878): undefined reference to `fat_brelse'
msdos.o(.text+0x878): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_brelse
fs/filesystems.a(msdos.o): In function `msdos_create':
msdos.o(.text+0x948): undefined reference to `fat_lock_creation'
msdos.o(.text+0x948): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_lock_creation
msdos.o(.text+0x978): undefined reference to `fat_scan'
msdos.o(.text+0x978): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_scan
msdos.o(.text+0x984): undefined reference to `fat_unlock_creation'
msdos.o(.text+0x984): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_unlock_creation
msdos.o(.text+0x990): undefined reference to `fat_brelse'
msdos.o(.text+0x990): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_brelse
msdos.o(.text+0x9c4): undefined reference to `fat_scan'
msdos.o(.text+0x9c4): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_scan
msdos.o(.text+0x9d0): undefined reference to `fat_unlock_creation'
msdos.o(.text+0x9d0): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_unlock_creation
msdos.o(.text+0x9dc): undefined reference to `fat_brelse'
msdos.o(.text+0x9dc): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_brelse
msdos.o(.text+0xa20): undefined reference to `fat_unlock_creation'
msdos.o(.text+0xa20): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_unlock_creation
fs/filesystems.a(msdos.o): In function `msdos_empty':
msdos.o(.text+0xaf8): undefined reference to `fat_get_entry'
msdos.o(.text+0xaf8): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_get_entry
msdos.o(.text+0xb10): undefined reference to `fat_brelse'
msdos.o(.text+0xb10): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_brelse
fs/filesystems.a(msdos.o): In function `msdos_rmdir':
msdos.o(.text+0xc14): undefined reference to `fat_mark_buffer_dirty'
msdos.o(.text+0xc14): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_mark_buffer_dirty
msdos.o(.text+0xc20): undefined reference to `fat_brelse'
msdos.o(.text+0xc20): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_brelse
fs/filesystems.a(msdos.o): In function `msdos_mkdir':
msdos.o(.text+0xca8): undefined reference to `fat_lock_creation'
msdos.o(.text+0xca8): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_lock_creation
msdos.o(.text+0xcc4): undefined reference to `fat_scan'
msdos.o(.text+0xcc4): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_scan
msdos.o(.text+0xd10): undefined reference to `fat_add_cluster'
msdos.o(.text+0xd10): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_add_cluster
msdos.o(.text+0xe04): undefined reference to `fat_unlock_creation'
msdos.o(.text+0xe04): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_unlock_creation
msdos.o(.text+0xe44): undefined reference to `fat_scan'
msdos.o(.text+0xe44): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_scan
msdos.o(.text+0xeac): undefined reference to `fat_mark_buffer_dirty'
msdos.o(.text+0xeac): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_mark_buffer_dirty
msdos.o(.text+0xeb8): undefined reference to `fat_brelse'
msdos.o(.text+0xeb8): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_brelse
msdos.o(.text+0xed0): undefined reference to `fat_brelse'
msdos.o(.text+0xed0): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_brelse
fs/filesystems.a(msdos.o): In function `msdos_unlinkx':
msdos.o(.text+0xfc4): undefined reference to `fat_mark_buffer_dirty'
msdos.o(.text+0xfc4): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_mark_buffer_dirty
msdos.o(.text+0xfd0): undefined reference to `fat_brelse'
msdos.o(.text+0xfd0): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_brelse
fs/filesystems.a(msdos.o): In function `msdos_rename_same':
msdos.o(.text+0x1080): undefined reference to `fat_scan'
msdos.o(.text+0x1080): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_scan
msdos.o(.text+0x11ec): undefined reference to 
`fat_mark_buffer_dirty'
msdos.o(.text+0x11ec): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_mark_buffer_dirty
msdos.o(.text+0x11f8): undefined reference to `fat_brelse'
msdos.o(.text+0x11f8): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_brelse
msdos.o(.text+0x1240): undefined reference to 
`fat_mark_buffer_dirty'
msdos.o(.text+0x1240): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_mark_buffer_dirty
msdos.o(.text+0x127c): undefined reference to `fat_brelse'
msdos.o(.text+0x127c): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_brelse
fs/filesystems.a(msdos.o): In function `msdos_rename_diff':
msdos.o(.text+0x12fc): undefined reference to `fat_add_cluster'
msdos.o(.text+0x12fc): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_add_cluster
msdos.o(.text+0x1320): undefined reference to `fat_scan'
msdos.o(.text+0x1320): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_scan
msdos.o(.text+0x1344): undefined reference to `fat_scan'
msdos.o(.text+0x1344): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_scan
msdos.o(.text+0x14d4): undefined reference to 
`fat_mark_buffer_dirty'
msdos.o(.text+0x14d4): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_mark_buffer_dirty
msdos.o(.text+0x14e0): undefined reference to `fat_brelse'
msdos.o(.text+0x14e0): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_brelse
msdos.o(.text+0x1524): undefined reference to `fat_scan'
msdos.o(.text+0x1524): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_scan
msdos.o(.text+0x16e0): undefined reference to 
`fat_mark_buffer_dirty'
msdos.o(.text+0x16e0): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_mark_buffer_dirty
msdos.o(.text+0x16e8): undefined reference to 
`fat_cache_inval_inode'
msdos.o(.text+0x16e8): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_cache_inval_inode
msdos.o(.text+0x1714): undefined reference to 
`fat_mark_buffer_dirty'
msdos.o(.text+0x1714): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_mark_buffer_dirty
msdos.o(.text+0x179c): undefined reference to 
`fat_mark_buffer_dirty'
msdos.o(.text+0x179c): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_mark_buffer_dirty
msdos.o(.text+0x17a8): undefined reference to `fat_brelse'
msdos.o(.text+0x17a8): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_brelse
msdos.o(.text+0x17c4): undefined reference to `fat_brelse'
msdos.o(.text+0x17c4): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_brelse
msdos.o(.text+0x17fc): undefined reference to `fat_brelse'
msdos.o(.text+0x17fc): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_brelse
fs/filesystems.a(msdos.o): In function `msdos_rename':
msdos.o(.text+0x1920): undefined reference to `fat_scan'
msdos.o(.text+0x1920): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_scan
msdos.o(.text+0x192c): undefined reference to `fat_lock_creation'
msdos.o(.text+0x192c): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_lock_creation
msdos.o(.text+0x19b8): undefined reference to `fat_unlock_creation'
msdos.o(.text+0x19b8): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_unlock_creation
msdos.o(.text+0x19c4): undefined reference to `fat_brelse'
msdos.o(.text+0x19c4): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_brelse
fs/filesystems.a(msdos.o): In function `msdos_read_inode':
msdos.o(.text+0x19e0): undefined reference to `fat_read_inode'
msdos.o(.text+0x19e0): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_read_inode
fs/filesystems.a(msdos.o)(.data+0x58): undefined reference to 
`fat_write_inode'
fs/filesystems.a(msdos.o)(.data+0x5c): undefined reference to 
`fat_put_inode'
fs/filesystems.a(msdos.o)(.data+0x60): undefined reference to 
`fat_delete_inode'
fs/filesystems.a(msdos.o)(.data+0x64): undefined reference to 
`fat_notify_change'
fs/filesystems.a(msdos.o)(.data+0x70): undefined reference to 
`fat_statfs'
fs/filesystems.a(msdos.o)(.data+0x98): undefined reference to 
`fat_dir_operations'
fs/filesystems.a(vfat.o): In function `vfat_put_super':
vfat.o(.text+0x28): undefined reference to `fat_put_super'
vfat.o(.text+0x28): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_put_super
fs/filesystems.a(vfat.o): In function `vfat_read_super':
vfat.o(.text+0x5a0): undefined reference to `fat_read_super'
vfat.o(.text+0x5a0): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_read_super
fs/filesystems.a(vfat.o): In function `vfat_find_form':
vfat.o(.text+0x9bc): undefined reference to `fat_get_entry'
vfat.o(.text+0x9bc): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_get_entry
fs/filesystems.a(vfat.o): In function `vfat_find_free_slots':
vfat.o(.text+0x10cc): undefined reference to `fat_get_entry'
vfat.o(.text+0x10cc): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_get_entry
vfat.o(.text+0x115c): undefined reference to `fat_brelse'
vfat.o(.text+0x115c): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_brelse
vfat.o(.text+0x1190): undefined reference to `fat_get_entry'
vfat.o(.text+0x1190): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_get_entry
vfat.o(.text+0x11c0): undefined reference to `fat_add_cluster'
vfat.o(.text+0x11c0): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_add_cluster
vfat.o(.text+0x11e0): undefined reference to `fat_get_entry'
vfat.o(.text+0x11e0): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_get_entry
fs/filesystems.a(vfat.o): In function `xlate_to_uni':
vfat.o(.text+0x123c): undefined reference to `utf8_mbstowcs'
vfat.o(.text+0x123c): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
utf8_mbstowcs
vfat.o(.text+0x1304): undefined reference to `fat_esc2uni'
fs/filesystems.a(vfat.o): In function `vfat_find':
vfat.o(.text+0x19dc): undefined reference to `fat_readdirx'
vfat.o(.text+0x19dc): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_readdirx
vfat.o(.text+0x1b00): undefined reference to `fat_get_entry'
vfat.o(.text+0x1b00): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_get_entry
vfat.o(.text+0x1b38): undefined reference to `fat_mark_buffer_dirty'
vfat.o(.text+0x1b38): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_mark_buffer_dirty
vfat.o(.text+0x1b84): undefined reference to `fat_date_unix2dos'
vfat.o(.text+0x1b84): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_date_unix2dos
vfat.o(.text+0x1c00): undefined reference to `fat_mark_buffer_dirty'
vfat.o(.text+0x1c00): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_mark_buffer_dirty
vfat.o(.text+0x1c0c): undefined reference to `fat_brelse'
vfat.o(.text+0x1c0c): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_brelse
fs/filesystems.a(vfat.o): In function `vfat_create_entry':
vfat.o(.text+0x1dbc): undefined reference to `fat_get_entry'
vfat.o(.text+0x1dbc): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_get_entry
vfat.o(.text+0x1dd4): undefined reference to `fat_brelse'
vfat.o(.text+0x1dd4): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_brelse
vfat.o(.text+0x1e04): undefined reference to `fat_brelse'
vfat.o(.text+0x1e04): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_brelse
fs/filesystems.a(vfat.o): In function `vfat_create':
vfat.o(.text+0x1e94): undefined reference to `fat_lock_creation'
vfat.o(.text+0x1e94): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_lock_creation
vfat.o(.text+0x1eb0): undefined reference to `fat_unlock_creation'
vfat.o(.text+0x1eb0): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_unlock_creation
fs/filesystems.a(vfat.o): In function `vfat_create_a_dotdir':
vfat.o(.text+0x1f5c): undefined reference to `fat_date_unix2dos'
vfat.o(.text+0x1f5c): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_date_unix2dos
vfat.o(.text+0x1f8c): undefined reference to `fat_mark_buffer_dirty'
vfat.o(.text+0x1f8c): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_mark_buffer_dirty
fs/filesystems.a(vfat.o): In function `vfat_create_dotdirs':
vfat.o(.text+0x2050): undefined reference to `fat_add_cluster'
vfat.o(.text+0x2050): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_add_cluster
vfat.o(.text+0x2098): undefined reference to `fat_get_entry'
vfat.o(.text+0x2098): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_get_entry
vfat.o(.text+0x20dc): undefined reference to `fat_brelse'
vfat.o(.text+0x20dc): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_brelse
vfat.o(.text+0x20fc): undefined reference to `fat_get_entry'
vfat.o(.text+0x20fc): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_get_entry
vfat.o(.text+0x2144): undefined reference to `fat_brelse'
vfat.o(.text+0x2144): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_brelse
fs/filesystems.a(vfat.o): In function `vfat_empty':
vfat.o(.text+0x21f8): undefined reference to `fat_brelse'
vfat.o(.text+0x21f8): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_brelse
vfat.o(.text+0x221c): undefined reference to `fat_get_entry'
vfat.o(.text+0x221c): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_get_entry
vfat.o(.text+0x2234): undefined reference to `fat_brelse'
vfat.o(.text+0x2234): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_brelse
fs/filesystems.a(vfat.o): In function `vfat_free_ino':
vfat.o(.text+0x22dc): undefined reference to `fat_mark_buffer_dirty'
vfat.o(.text+0x22dc): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_mark_buffer_dirty
fs/filesystems.a(vfat.o): In function `vfat_remove_entry':
vfat.o(.text+0x2330): undefined reference to `fat_get_entry'
vfat.o(.text+0x2330): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_get_entry
vfat.o(.text+0x2380): undefined reference to `fat_get_entry'
vfat.o(.text+0x2380): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_get_entry
vfat.o(.text+0x23b0): undefined reference to `fat_mark_buffer_dirty'
vfat.o(.text+0x23b0): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_mark_buffer_dirty
vfat.o(.text+0x23cc): undefined reference to `fat_brelse'
vfat.o(.text+0x23cc): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_brelse
fs/filesystems.a(vfat.o): In function `vfat_mkdir':
vfat.o(.text+0x25c0): undefined reference to `fat_lock_creation'
vfat.o(.text+0x25c0): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_lock_creation
vfat.o(.text+0x25e4): undefined reference to `fat_unlock_creation'
vfat.o(.text+0x25e4): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_unlock_creation
vfat.o(.text+0x261c): undefined reference to `fat_unlock_creation'
vfat.o(.text+0x261c): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_unlock_creation
vfat.o(.text+0x2644): undefined reference to `fat_unlock_creation'
vfat.o(.text+0x2644): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_unlock_creation
vfat.o(.text+0x26bc): undefined reference to `fat_fs_panic'
vfat.o(.text+0x26bc): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_fs_panic
fs/filesystems.a(vfat.o): In function `vfat_rename':
vfat.o(.text+0x27e4): undefined reference to `fat_get_entry'
vfat.o(.text+0x27e4): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_get_entry
vfat.o(.text+0x2814): undefined reference to `fat_lock_creation'
vfat.o(.text+0x2814): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_lock_creation
vfat.o(.text+0x2978): undefined reference to `fat_cache_inval_inode'
vfat.o(.text+0x2978): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_cache_inval_inode
vfat.o(.text+0x29ec): undefined reference to `fat_get_entry'
vfat.o(.text+0x29ec): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_get_entry
vfat.o(.text+0x2a30): undefined reference to `fat_mark_buffer_dirty'
vfat.o(.text+0x2a30): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_mark_buffer_dirty
vfat.o(.text+0x2a6c): undefined reference to `fat_scan'
vfat.o(.text+0x2a6c): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_scan
vfat.o(.text+0x2a98): undefined reference to `fat_brelse'
vfat.o(.text+0x2a98): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_brelse
vfat.o(.text+0x2af4): undefined reference to `fat_mark_buffer_dirty'
vfat.o(.text+0x2af4): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_mark_buffer_dirty
vfat.o(.text+0x2b28): undefined reference to `fat_brelse'
vfat.o(.text+0x2b28): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_brelse
vfat.o(.text+0x2b64): undefined reference to `fat_unlock_creation'
vfat.o(.text+0x2b64): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_unlock_creation
vfat.o(.text+0x2b74): undefined reference to `fat_brelse'
vfat.o(.text+0x2b74): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_brelse
vfat.o(.text+0x2b88): undefined reference to `fat_brelse'
vfat.o(.text+0x2b88): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_brelse
fs/filesystems.a(vfat.o): In function `vfat_read_inode':
vfat.o(.text+0x2ba4): undefined reference to `fat_read_inode'
vfat.o(.text+0x2ba4): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 
fat_read_inode
fs/filesystems.a(vfat.o)(.data+0x74): undefined reference to 
`fat_write_inode'
fs/filesystems.a(vfat.o)(.data+0x78): undefined reference to 
`fat_put_inode'
fs/filesystems.a(vfat.o)(.data+0x7c): undefined reference to 
`fat_delete_inode'
fs/filesystems.a(vfat.o)(.data+0x80): undefined reference to 
`fat_notify_change'
fs/filesystems.a(vfat.o)(.data+0x8c): undefined reference to 
`fat_statfs'
fs/filesystems.a(vfat.o)(.data+0x11c): undefined reference to 
`fat_dir_operations'
make: *** [vmlinux] Error 1
#
# Automatically generated by make menuconfig: don't edit
#
CONFIG_ARM=y

#
# System and processor type
#
# CONFIG_ARCH_ARC is not set
# CONFIG_ARCH_A5K is not set
# CONFIG_ARCH_RPC is not set
# CONFIG_ARCH_EBSA110 is not set
CONFIG_FOOTBRIDGE=y
CONFIG_HOST_FOOTBRIDGE=y
CONFIG_ADDIN_FOOTBRIDGE=y
CONFIG_ARCH_EBSA285=y
# CONFIG_CATS is not set
# CONFIG_ARCH_NETWINDER is not set
# CONFIG_ARCH_ACORN is not set
CONFIG_PCI=y
# CONFIG_ISA_DMA is not set
CONFIG_CPU_32=y
# CONFIG_CPU_26 is not set
CONFIG_CPU_ARMV4=y
CONFIG_TUNE_SA110=y

#
# Code maturity level options
#
CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL=y
# CONFIG_ALIGNMENT_TRAP is not set
CONFIG_TEXT_SECTIONS=y

#
# Loadable module support
#
# CONFIG_MODULES is not set

#
# General setup
#
# CONFIG_NET is not set
CONFIG_SYSVIPC=y
# CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT is not set
CONFIG_SYSCTL=y
CONFIG_NWFPE=y
# CONFIG_BINFMT_AOUT is not set
CONFIG_BINFMT_ELF=y
# CONFIG_BINFMT_MISC is not set
# CONFIG_PARPORT is not set
CONFIG_LEDS=y
CONFIG_LEDS_TIMER=y
CONFIG_LEDS_CPU=y

#
# Plug and Play support
#
# CONFIG_PNP is not set

#
# Block devices
#
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_FD is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD_ONLY is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_MD is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM=y
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_INITRD is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_XD is not set
CONFIG_PARIDE_PARPORT=y
# CONFIG_PARIDE is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD is not set

#
# Character devices
#
# CONFIG_VT is not set
# CONFIG_SERIAL is not set
# CONFIG_SERIAL_EXTENDED is not set
CONFIG_SERIAL_NONSTANDARD=y
# CONFIG_ROCKETPORT is not set
# CONFIG_DIGIEPCA is not set
# CONFIG_DIGI is not set
# CONFIG_CYCLADES is not set
# CONFIG_STALDRV is not set
# CONFIG_RISCOM8 is not set
# CONFIG_SPECIALIX is not set
# CONFIG_ESPSERIAL is not set
# CONFIG_ISI is not set
CONFIG_SERIAL_21285=y
CONFIG_SERIAL_21285_CONSOLE=y
# CONFIG_UNIX98_PTYS is not set
# CONFIG_MOUSE is not set
# CONFIG_QIC02_TAPE is not set
CONFIG_WATCHDOG=y

#
# Watchdog Cards
#
# CONFIG_WATCHDOG_NOWAYOUT is not set
# CONFIG_WDT is not set
# CONFIG_SOFT_WATCHDOG is not set
# CONFIG_PCWATCHDOG is not set
# CONFIG_ACQUIRE_WDT is not set
CONFIG_21285_WATCHDOG=y
CONFIG_21285_FLASH=y
# CONFIG_NVRAM is not set
# CONFIG_RTC is not set

#
# Video For Linux
#
# CONFIG_VIDEO_DEV is not set

#
# Joystick support
#
# CONFIG_JOYSTICK is not set

#
# Ftape, the floppy tape device driver
#
# CONFIG_FTAPE is not set

#
# SCSI support
#
# CONFIG_SCSI is not set

#
# Sound
#
# CONFIG_SOUND is not set

#
# Filesystems
#
# CONFIG_QUOTA is not set
# CONFIG_AUTOFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_ADFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_AFFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_HFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_FAT_FS is not set
CONFIG_MSDOS_FS=y
# CONFIG_UMSDOS_FS is not set
CONFIG_VFAT_FS=y
# CONFIG_ISO9660_FS is not set
# CONFIG_JOLIET is not set
# CONFIG_MINIX_FS is not set
# CONFIG_NTFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_HPFS_FS is not set
CONFIG_PROC_FS=y
# CONFIG_QNX4FS_FS is not set
CONFIG_ROMFS_FS=y
CONFIG_EXT2_FS=y
# CONFIG_SYSV_FS is not set
# CONFIG_UFS_FS is not set

#
# Partition Types
#
# CONFIG_OSF_PARTITION is not set
# CONFIG_MAC_PARTITION is not set
# CONFIG_MSDOS_PARTITION is not set
# CONFIG_SGI_PARTITION is not set
# CONFIG_SUN_PARTITION is not set
# CONFIG_AMIGA_PARTITION is not set
# CONFIG_ACORN_PARTITION is not set
# CONFIG_NLS is not set

#
# Kernel hacking
#
CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER=y
CONFIG_DEBUG_ERRORS=y
# CONFIG_DEBUG_USER is not set
# CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO is not set
CONFIG_MAGIC_SYSRQ=y
# CONFIG_ARTHUR is not set

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>the result of which suggests the bug is in 
>setup_pagetables (inlined into paging_init) at this point:

If you get a crash in this sort of area the most likely cause is that the 
kernel is in the wrong place in physical memory.  It's quite important that 
the kernel be loaded at physical address 8000.

The other possibility is that you've told the kernel it has the wrong amount 
of RAM.

p.


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You may want to verify that parameter parsing routine that figures
out the memory size on EBSA285 actually returns correct size for
the size of DRAM.  I noticed that for EBSA285 this is not being
done correctly if you don't pass the parameters explicitly in
boot parameter.  This results in hard-to-debug bad behavior during
bootup sequence -- around memory mapping setting.

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Thanks, I didnt notice that CONFIG_MSDOS_FS and 
CONFIG_VFAT_FS were set in .config.
But why is it selected although I have not selected 
CONFIG_FAT_FS, and so MSDOS and VFAT dont appear at all in 
menuconfig

Maybe isn't it arm related, I'll try with i386 version.

christophe

> At 04:19 PM 2/17/99 +0100, you wrote:
> >Why does it compiled vfat and msdos (look at my .config at the 
> >end) (yes, I've done make dep and make clean)
> 
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> You need :
> 
> ># CONFIG_FAT_FS is not set
> 
> to be set as well.
> 
> Dave
> 
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When I had similar problems I had to resort to a fresh install from a
well known vantage point.
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Sorry, but I got no answer to my question, and I know somebody 
has the solution:
How do I create an AIF file from zImage ?, in order to download it 
on flash memory ?

Thanks

Christophe
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>boot parameter.  This results in hard-to-debug bad behavior during
>bootup sequence -- around memory mapping setting.

Yeah.  It would be nice if someone could contribute some memory auto-sizing 
code actually.  It shouldn't be that hard.  One could probably assume a 
minimum of 4MB and go up from there.

p.


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Philip Blundell wrote:
> Yeah.  It would be nice if someone could contribute some memory auto-sizing 
> code actually.  It shouldn't be that hard.  One could probably assume a 
> minimum of 4MB and go up from there.

linux-7110 has some, in
ftp://lrcftp.epfl.ch/pub/people/almesber/psion/boot-9.tar.gz, file findmem.S

There are a few things that make it less trivial than it may seem at first
sight:
 - the minimum step width can be rather small, e.g. on the Psion, it's
   just 512kB. So to scan a 4GB address space, you'd have to check 8192
   addresses. No big deal, except with ...
 - incomplete address decoding. This means that we need to copy all the
   original contents and put them back in the right order as soon as we
   find that some address doesn't point to real memory. (After all, the
   spot we're testing may happen to point somewhere into the kernel or
   into initrd.)

An added challenge on the 7110 is that we don't have a lot of memory to
throw at the problem (e.g. to store things we've overwritten), because
the things loaded by the boot loader (Arlo) may end up all over the
place, so we need to detect available memory and move things back to
sequence before running the kernel.

- Werner

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MHE writes:
> I'm new to this, so I just retrieved the FAQ from
> http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/~rmk/armlinux/faq.html
> 
> It is dated 14-Oct-1998 (4 months ago). Is this the latest version or is
> there a more recent version available from somewhere else?

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Philip Blundell writes:
> >boot parameter.  This results in hard-to-debug bad behavior during
> >bootup sequence -- around memory mapping setting.
> 
> Yeah.  It would be nice if someone could contribute some memory auto-sizing 
> code actually.  It shouldn't be that hard.  One could probably assume a 
> minimum of 4MB and go up from there.

I disagree here.  One some architectures, eg EBSA285, the SDRAM size must be
known before the SDRAM is in use, and that means that the boot loader must
know.  With the DC21285, it is not possible to probe the memory size and
organisation without disabling the SDRAM banks.

This information might as well be passed to the kernel by the loader code
anyway therefore.

Ok, you could find out what's currently set up, but I think that some of
the EBSA285 PBLs use fixed memory sizes, so increasing the SDRAMs with some
autoprobing code in the kernel will not be beneficial.  (you'll still only
have 16MB available).
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On Wed, 17 Feb 1999, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote:
>MHE writes:
>> I'm new to this, so I just retrieved the FAQ from
>> http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/~rmk/armlinux/faq.html
>> 
>> It is dated 14-Oct-1998 (4 months ago). Is this the latest version or is
>> there a more recent version available from somewhere else?
>
>This is the latest.  If you've got any extra questions that you think ought
>to be on there, send a bit of HTML formatted in a similar way to what's
>already there and I'll stick it in (or send me a textual version and it'll
>take a little longer).

  As a related note I was looking at the Architectures page and saw that the
A7000 is supported.  I had a bit more of a dig around and couldn't find
anything to do with it.  If I remember correctly the A7000 has ARM7500 in it
(same as an acorn NC).  Does this mean that one of the Acorn NC's could run
Linux?

  Cheers,

  Tom
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On Thu, Feb 18, 1999 at 09:22:10AM +0000, Tom Palmer wrote:

>   As a related note I was looking at the Architectures page and saw that the
> A7000 is supported.  I had a bit more of a dig around and couldn't find
> anything to do with it.  If I remember correctly the A7000 has ARM7500 in it
> (same as an acorn NC).  Does this mean that one of the Acorn NC's could run
> Linux?

Yes, but since the NC doesn't have any on-board disc, you'd have to bootp
the thing, and NFS-mount your root filesystem.  There's no real problem
with this, other than that there's no linux device driver for the NC's
ethernet card.

Cheers,
Phil
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On Thu, 18 Feb 1999, Phil Norman wrote:
>On Thu, Feb 18, 1999 at 09:22:10AM +0000, Tom Palmer wrote:
>
>>   As a related note I was looking at the Architectures page and saw that the
>> A7000 is supported.  I had a bit more of a dig around and couldn't find
>> anything to do with it.  If I remember correctly the A7000 has ARM7500 in it
>> (same as an acorn NC).  Does this mean that one of the Acorn NC's could run
>> Linux?
>
>Yes, but since the NC doesn't have any on-board disc, you'd have to bootp
>the thing, and NFS-mount your root filesystem.  There's no real problem
>with this, other than that there's no linux device driver for the NC's
>ethernet card.

  Ok.  Cool.  If I remember correctly the NC has an irlam ethernet card. 
Anyone know the chipset or how easy it would be to add support?

  Cheers,

  Tom
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On Thu, Feb 18, 1999 at 09:37:33AM +0000, Tom Palmer wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Feb 1999, Phil Norman wrote:
> >
> >Yes, but since the NC doesn't have any on-board disc, you'd have to bootp
> >the thing, and NFS-mount your root filesystem.  There's no real problem
> >with this, other than that there's no linux device driver for the NC's
> >ethernet card.
> 
>   Ok.  Cool.  If I remember correctly the NC has an irlam ethernet card. 
> Anyone know the chipset or how easy it would be to add support?

It does, yes.  It's an EtherN, and the chipset is a Macronix MX98905.

Cheers,
Phil
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>It does, yes.  It's an EtherN, and the chipset is a Macronix MX98905.

It's just an NE2000 clone I think, similar to many others (probably the 
majority of Acorn cards actually).  So it shouldn't be that hard to write 
a driver.

p.


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I've managed to put linux kernel on flash, but when I boot, nothing 
happens.
Is the serial port initialized by the kernel before writing 
"Uncompressing kernel..." ?
According to the EBSA285 doc, serial port isn't Initialized by Angel 
Primary Boot Loader

Christophe
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Here my code to prepend an AIF header to zImage for EBSA285
Please tell me if I'm doing something wrong

# Makefile
SIZE := $(shell wc -c zImage | gawk '{print $$1}')
hdr:	hdr.S zImage
	arm-linux-as --defsym size=$(SIZE) hdr.S -o hdr.o
	arm-linux-objcopy -O binary hdr.o hdr
	cat hdr zImage > linux.axf

/* hdr.S */
	.text
	mov r0,r0
	mov r0,r0
	bl init
	.word 0
	swi 0x11
	.word size
	.word 0
	.word 0
	.word 0
	.word 0
	.word 0x8000
	.word 0
	.word 32
	.word 0
	.word 0
	.word 0
	mov r0,r0
init:	mov r0,#0
	mov r1,#4 /* EBSA285 */
	mov r4,#0
	orr r4,r4,#0x8000
	mov r5,#0x130 /* turns MMU off */
	mcr p15,0,r5,c1,c0
	mov r0,r0
	mov pc,r4
	mov r0,r0
	mov r0,r0
	mov r0,r0
	mov r0,r0
	mov r0,r0
	mov r0,r0
	mov r0,r0

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>Is the serial port initialized by the kernel before writing 
>"Uncompressing kernel..." ?

Not as far as I remember.

p.


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>Here my code to prepend an AIF header to zImage for EBSA285
>Please tell me if I'm doing something wrong

The code itself looks OK but you might not be taking sufficient care over the 
memory layout.  If the idea is that this works in the same way as the CATS 
bootstrap (ie you load it at address 0), you need to have enough padding that 
zImage starts at 0x8000.  This is what the .align and .space directives were 
for in the source I sent you.  Alternatively you could load the code at 
0x8000-sizeof(hdr) but Angel might not be too keen on that.

p.


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Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote:
> This information might as well be passed to the kernel by the loader code
> anyway therefore.

By the way, I think it would be nice if the memory size detection (or,
rather retrieval of the size) could be moved to one of the
ARM-architecture-dependent files.

While I'm at it, is it true that current->tss.memmap should always be
equal to __virt_to_phys((unsigned long) &swapper_pg_dir) ? If yes, it
would be nice if this could be set in the general ARM code. Right now,
7110 and RPC set current->tss.memmap at run time, while all other
architectures use the compile-time default.

I've appended the patch I currently have in my 7110 tree for the latter
change. (Note: it doesn't touch the RPC code or the compile-time
default.)

- Werner

---------------------------------- cut here -----------------------------------

--- ref/arch/arm/mm/init.c	Tue Feb  9 00:38:23 1999
+++ work/arch/arm/mm/init.c	Tue Feb  9 02:20:08 1999
@@ -137,9 +137,13 @@
 	start_mem += PTRS_PER_PTE * sizeof (void *);
 #endif
 	memzero (empty_zero_page, PAGE_SIZE);
+#ifdef CONFIG_ARCH_CLPS7110 /* should be valid for all architectures */
+	current->tss.memmap = __virt_to_phys((unsigned long) &swapper_pg_dir);
+/* @@@ ask RMK; also used by RPC */
+#endif
 	start_mem = setup_pagetables (start_mem, end_mem);
 
 	flush_tlb_all();
 	update_memc_all();
 
 	end_mem &= PAGE_MASK;

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> >Here my code to prepend an AIF header to zImage for EBSA285
> >Please tell me if I'm doing something wrong
> 
> The code itself looks OK but you might not be taking sufficient care over the 
> memory layout.  If the idea is that this works in the same way as the CATS 
> bootstrap (ie you load it at address 0), you need to have enough padding that 
> zImage starts at 0x8000.  This is what the .align and .space directives were 
> for in the source I sent you.  Alternatively you could load the code at 
> 0x8000-sizeof(hdr) but Angel might not be too keen on that.
> 

According to the doc, you  cannot use memory under 0x8000. So, 
I've prepend an AIF header that tells the boot loader to copy image 
to 0x8000, then I've put into zero-init zone the part of code to set 
r0,r1 and put off mmu, then I should jump to 0x8000

But I'm not sure zero-init code is executed in that case.

Anyway, by initialisiing UART in uncomp_setup_arch() , I now get
"Uncompressing Linux...done"
and "now booting the kernel.",
but then .... nothing

I've also tried by adding the bootstrap instructions to the beginning 
of head.S, but It doesn't work neither better nor bader

Christophe
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>Anyway, by initialisiing UART in uncomp_setup_arch() , I now get
>"Uncompressing Linux...done"
>and "now booting the kernel.",
>but then .... nothing

Try putting debugging at the start of head-armv.S to see if it's managing to 
call that code at the right address.  If so then trace it through and see 
where it falls over.

p.


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No init is done before Uncompressing kernel... message.  That message
is being printed via simple routine that uses EBSA285 serial in
polled mode (I think it's in include/asm/arch/uncompress.h -- I'm at
home so I can't look it up).  No special initialization is needed for
that.

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I am trying to get starting to a port of the ARM Linux
code to the Cogent ARM development platforms.
I am having a bit of trouble obtaining the source.  When
I unzip the .gz file either with winzip or with gunzip, I
get one huge file of concatenated diffs.
Has anyone experienced this problem?  Am I not
downloading the correct file?  I'd love to get started
if I could only download the source!!!!

joe

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Werner is right on both points here.  We have the same concerns on SA1100
architecture.

On Thu, 18 Feb 1999, Werner Almesberger wrote:

> Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote:
> > This information might as well be passed to the kernel by the loader code
> > anyway therefore.
> 
> By the way, I think it would be nice if the memory size detection (or,
> rather retrieval of the size) could be moved to one of the
> ARM-architecture-dependent files.
> 
> While I'm at it, is it true that current->tss.memmap should always be
> equal to __virt_to_phys((unsigned long) &swapper_pg_dir) ? If yes, it
> would be nice if this could be set in the general ARM code. Right now,
> 7110 and RPC set current->tss.memmap at run time, while all other
> architectures use the compile-time default.
> 
> I've appended the patch I currently have in my 7110 tree for the latter
> change. (Note: it doesn't touch the RPC code or the compile-time
> default.)
> 
> - Werner
> 
> ---------------------------------- cut here -----------------------------------
> 
> --- ref/arch/arm/mm/init.c	Tue Feb  9 00:38:23 1999
> +++ work/arch/arm/mm/init.c	Tue Feb  9 02:20:08 1999
> @@ -137,9 +137,13 @@
>  	start_mem += PTRS_PER_PTE * sizeof (void *);
>  #endif
>  	memzero (empty_zero_page, PAGE_SIZE);
> +#ifdef CONFIG_ARCH_CLPS7110 /* should be valid for all architectures */
> +	current->tss.memmap = __virt_to_phys((unsigned long) &swapper_pg_dir);
> +/* @@@ ask RMK; also used by RPC */
> +#endif
>  	start_mem = setup_pagetables (start_mem, end_mem);
>  
>  	flush_tlb_all();
>  	update_memc_all();
>  
>  	end_mem &= PAGE_MASK;
> 
> -- 
>   _________________________________________________________________________
>  / Werner Almesberger, DI-ICA,EPFL,CH   werner.almesberger@lrc.di.epfl.ch /
> /_IN_R_131__Tel_+41_21_693_6621__Fax_+41_21_693_6610_____________________/
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>I am having a bit of trouble obtaining the source.  When
>I unzip the .gz file either with winzip or with gunzip, I
>get one huge file of concatenated diffs.

That's what it's supposed to be like.  What were you expecting?

p.


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In article <3.0.1.32.19990216114133.011adcc8@metropolis.it>,
Roberto Fasciolo  <kernel-doc@nl.linux.org> wrote:
>I'd like to know if it's possible changing the active console (the same thing that pressing CTRL+ALT+Fx) with a system call, and, if it's possible, how can I do that.

See the source code for the 'kbd' package.  chvt does exactly this.
To simulate Ctrl-Alt-F3 you'd use something  like this:

	int fd = open("/dev/console", O_WRONLY);
	ioctl(fd, VT_ACTIVATE, 0x3);
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Philip Blundell wrote:

> >Before I got to this stage, I had the egcs-1.1.1 source,
> >and got 3 patch files for it that I applied consecutively:
> >
> >egcs-1.1.1-prerelease-2-arm-diff-981117.gz
> >egcs-1.1.1-prerelease-2-arm-diff-981117-981124
> >egcs-1.1.1-prerelease-2-arm-diff-981124-981125
>
> Try getting the latest patch from ftp.netwinder.org:/users/p/philb.  I think
> it's dated 990113 or thereabouts.  (I don't think this is your problem; just
> as a matter of general principle it's best to use the latest sources.)
>
> >What am I doing wrong?
>
> Probably nothing, in fact.  The cross-compiler has been built and is now being
> used to try to cross-compile the target libraries.  This fails because you
> haven't yet installed the target runtime system (ie glibc).
>
> There are some notes about this sort of thing on my web site
> (http://www.tazenda.demon.co.uk/phil/armlinux) and I think they mention this
> and what you can do about it.
>
> p.

I looked at this web page. It talks about::

>>>>>
If you are trying to bootstrap a development environment for the first time on
this system you will find that not everything will build first time around.  The
only things that matter at this stage are those that are
built if you type `make LANGUAGES="c"' in the `gcc' subdirectory.  In order to
get libgcc2 to compile you may need to add -Dinhibit_libc to the CFLAGS that are
used.  The easiest way to do this is to
fiddle the Makefile by hand.  Once enough of the compiler is built you can
install it - again you may need to be in the gcc subdirectory and use
LANGUAGES="c" to get this to complete without errors.
<<<<

I have nothing in the gcc directory but
confdefs.h  config.log

I think the test is either failing because arm-linux-gcc doesn't point
to anything, or because it's compiling an arm binary on solaris and
then cant test it on solaris.


Anyway, I'm getting pretty lost, can anyone tell me what is missing?





Tim Lindquist wrote:

> I'm having problems building a cross compiler on solaris.
> When running  make, I get:
>
> checking whether the C compiler (arm-linux-gcc -g -O2 ) works... no
> configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler
> cannot create executables.
> gmake: *** [configure-target-libiberty] Error 1
>
> Before I got to this stage, I had the egcs-1.1.1 source,
> and got 3 patch files for it that I applied consecutively:
>
> egcs-1.1.1-prerelease-2-arm-diff-981117.gz
> egcs-1.1.1-prerelease-2-arm-diff-981117-981124
> egcs-1.1.1-prerelease-2-arm-diff-981124-981125
>
> I got the following message during the final patch:
>
> patching file `gcc/f/intdoc.texi'
> Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected!  Assume -R? [y]
>
> I created an egcs-1.1.1-build dir, and from there ran:
>
>  ../egcs-1.1.1/configure --target=arm-linux
> --prefix=/home/elph/tjl/work/sw/armlinux/
>
> and then ran make.
>
> What am I doing wrong?

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> I looked at this web page. It talks about::
> 
> >>>>>
> If you are trying to bootstrap a development environment for the first time on
> this system you will find that not everything will build first time around.  The
> only things that matter at this stage are those that are
> built if you type `make LANGUAGES="c"' in the `gcc' subdirectory.  In order to
> get libgcc2 to compile you may need to add -Dinhibit_libc to the CFLAGS that are
> used.  The easiest way to do this is to
> fiddle the Makefile by hand.  Once enough of the compiler is built you can
> install it - again you may need to be in the gcc subdirectory and use
> LANGUAGES="c" to get this to complete without errors.
> <<<<
> 
> I have nothing in the gcc directory but
> confdefs.h  config.log
> 

did you run configure ? configure creates makefiles

> I think the test is either failing because arm-linux-gcc doesn't point
> to anything, or because it's compiling an arm binary on solaris and
> then cant test it on solaris.
> 
> 
> Anyway, I'm getting pretty lost, can anyone tell me what is missing?
> 

I'm getting lost by reading this mail.
Let me sum up stages and tell me where it fails, I'll help you

- Compile and install binutils-1.9.1.0.19a
	./configure --target=arm-linux --prefix=where_you_want
	make
	make install
- add where_you_want/bin in your PATH
- Untar egcs, patch it, find . -name "*.rej"
- enter egcs dir, then ./configure --target=arm-linux --
prefix=wher_you_want_the_same
- modify makefile to add -Dinhibit-libc in CFLAGS
- make -i LANGUAGES=c
- make -i LANGUAGES=c install

compile glibc, with 
prefix=/where_you_want_not_the_same_as_above
make, make install

go back in egcs,
./configure --prefix=same_place_as_first_time --with-
headers=/where_you_put_glibc/include --with-
libs=/where_you_put_glibc/lib --target=arm-linux
make LANGUAGES="c c++" 
make LANGUAGES="c c++" install

DONE

Christophe


> 
> > I'm having problems building a cross compiler on solaris.
> > When running  make, I get:
> >
> > checking whether the C compiler (arm-linux-gcc -g -O2 ) works... no
> > configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler
> > cannot create executables.
> > gmake: *** [configure-target-libiberty] Error 1
> >
> > Before I got to this stage, I had the egcs-1.1.1 source,
> > and got 3 patch files for it that I applied consecutively:
> >
> > egcs-1.1.1-prerelease-2-arm-diff-981117.gz
> > egcs-1.1.1-prerelease-2-arm-diff-981117-981124
> > egcs-1.1.1-prerelease-2-arm-diff-981124-981125
> >
> > I got the following message during the final patch:
> >
> > patching file `gcc/f/intdoc.texi'
> > Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected!  Assume -R? [y]
> >
> > I created an egcs-1.1.1-build dir, and from there ran:
> >
> >  ../egcs-1.1.1/configure --target=arm-linux
> > --prefix=/home/elph/tjl/work/sw/armlinux/
> >
> > and then ran make.
> >
> > What am I doing wrong?
> 

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In message <Pine.LNX.3.96.990216161308.22592A-100000@tequila.doc.ic.ac.uk> you wrote:

> On Tue, 2 Feb 1999, Russell King wrote:
> 
> >Chris Nelson said:
> >> Richard Barber wrote:
> >> > I ran the installer, it was able to recognize the SCSI card, the Network
> >> > card and the PPA Zip drive (all on autoprobe) and I was able to specify
> >> > /dev/sda4 as root partition and /dev/sda5 as swap. Installing from the
> >> > Zip disk (/dev/sdb?, something) it seemed to successfully install....
> >> 
> >> Basically, I had exactly the same problem trying to install Linux on my
> >> RPC600 + StrongARM + Powertek SCSI II + SyJet 1.5GB.  From my experiences, 
> >> I had to deduce that there is no SCSI support in the install Kernel, and it 
> >> has to be loaded as a module during boot up.  Unfortunately, if your system 
> >> is all on a SCSI drive, it can't get to the module (or the Kernel if you 
> >> attempt a normal boot).
> Hmm...yes...I've put a 50MB root partition on my ADFS drive now (after a
> couple of visits to HForm) but still no cigar (although it does at
> least now get me to a root prompt)...
> 
> >There is a solution, and it's sitting on a CD Image on my machine.  It's
> >a fully populated RedHat CD ROM for ARM Linux.
> 
> Is the CD image a solution to Chris's problem (SCSI not working on a
> recompiled kernel) or mine (SCSI II module not in the original install
> kernel)?, or both ?!
> 
> Rich

If the CD Image is a solution to the problem, is it an accessible one? I.e. Is it
possible to get hold of a copy, and if not are there alternative solutions?


And by the way, what isn't working now Rich?  You got the root prompt, but am I to
assume you cannot access your SCSI card? Have you installed the latest version of
the modules package on your new installation?

Chris
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I have a 3GB HardDisk. It contains approx. 1.5GB of data. Now I read in the
Linux installation guide I have to backup all this and run !Hform to create
a Linux partition.

Now, I'm not very eager to start backing up 1.5 gigs of data to floppies :-/

PLEASE, somebody, tell me there is an alternative. For the PC-emulator I can
create an Image-file on the ADFS disk. Can I do the same or something
similar for Linux?

TTFN,
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- Still 23 months to go until the next millenium...
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In the last mail MHE said:
> I have a 3GB HardDisk. It contains approx. 1.5GB of data. Now I read in the
> Linux installation guide I have to backup all this and run !Hform to create
> a Linux partition.
> 
> Now, I'm not very eager to start backing up 1.5 gigs of data to floppies :-/
> 
> PLEASE, somebody, tell me there is an alternative. For the PC-emulator I can
> create an Image-file on the ADFS disk. Can I do the same or something
> similar for Linux?

An alternative is to borrow another hard disk and temporarily store your data there. Possibly by sending it over a serial link or Ethernet to another machine that you possess or can borrow.


> - Still 23 months to go until the next millenium...

Very true. But the "bug" hits in 00 come what may.

Nick

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In the last mail christophe.leroy5@capway.com said:
> From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu  Fri Feb 19 08:44:49 1999
> From: christophe.leroy5@capway.com

> > I think the test is either failing because arm-linux-gcc doesn't point
> > to anything, or because it's compiling an arm binary on solaris and
> > then cant test it on solaris.
> > 
> > 
> > Anyway, I'm getting pretty lost, can anyone tell me what is missing?
> > 
> 

> I'm getting lost by reading this mail.
> Let me sum up stages and tell me where it fails, I'll help you
> 
> - Compile and install binutils-1.9.1.0.19a
> 	./configure --target=arm-linux --prefix=where_you_want
> 	make

surely
make cross
if he's trying to make a cross compiler?


> > > I'm having problems building a cross compiler on solaris.

> > >  ../egcs-1.1.1/configure --target=arm-linux
> > > --prefix=/home/elph/tjl/work/sw/armlinux/
> > >
> > > and then ran make.
> > >
> > > What am I doing wrong?

should one configure with --host --target and --build when making a cross compiler?

Nick (guessing)
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> > > I think the test is either failing because arm-linux-gcc doesn't point
> > > to anything, or because it's compiling an arm binary on solaris and
> > > then cant test it on solaris.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Anyway, I'm getting pretty lost, can anyone tell me what is missing?
> > > 
> > 
> 
> > I'm getting lost by reading this mail.
> > Let me sum up stages and tell me where it fails, I'll help you
> > 
> > - Compile and install binutils-1.9.1.0.19a
> > 	./configure --target=arm-linux --prefix=where_you_want
> > 	make
> 
> surely
> make cross
> if he's trying to make a cross compiler?

It works with just make, as you've allready told to configure that 
you want it beeing compiled for arm-linux and it sees that you are 
under sparc-linux or sparc-solaris, so it knows it will build a cross 
compiler. It works like that, at least on i486-linux

> 
> 
> > > > I'm having problems building a cross compiler on solaris.
> 
> > > >  ../egcs-1.1.1/configure --target=arm-linux
> > > > --prefix=/home/elph/tjl/work/sw/armlinux/
> > > >
> > > > and then ran make.
> > > >
> > > > What am I doing wrong?
> 
> should one configure with --host --target and --build when making a cross compiler?
> 

Once again, normaly, as far as I remember what I did, --target is 
enough

Christophe
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Hi everyone,

With all the comments being I made I thought I'd give it a go so I've
downloaded binutils-2.9.1.0.19a at work and tried building it.  It works
for --target=arm-linuxaout (although the install falls over at the man
pages) but not for --target=arm-linux.  (Just use make once configured).

Its failing in elf32-arm.c which seems to be peppered with C++ comments
that my compiler doesn't like.  Are they supposed to be there if so, can
I just delete the relevant lines.  Its just that it seems to be the sort
of thing I would do when I was testing something.  Have I got a duff
copy of the binutils archive.

Melanie

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>Its failing in elf32-arm.c which seems to be peppered with C++ comments
>that my compiler doesn't like.  Are they supposed to be there if so, can

Eww.  Just delete the offending comments.  They were put in during development 
and probably should have been removed long ago.

p.



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I can not seem to find the floating point emulator module mentioned under
Documentation/arm/nwfpe nor can I find the emulator by R. King alluded to in
the same docs.

Can somebody point me to the source for one of these ?
It might help me eliminate the SIGILLs being sent to almost every user process.

(two of the offending instructions are rfs and wfs - there is likely many more)

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>> > - Compile and install binutils-1.9.1.0.19a
>> > 	./configure --target=arm-linux --prefix=where_you_want
>> > 	make
>> 
>> surely
>> make cross
>> if he's trying to make a cross compiler?

"make cross" is only needed for GCC.  For binutils you just do "make".

>> should one configure with --host --target and --build when making a cross 
>> compiler?

There's no need.  You have to give --target but the host can be guessed and 
the build defaults to the host.

p.


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Philip Blundell wrote:
> 
> >Its failing in elf32-arm.c which seems to be peppered with C++ comments
> >that my compiler doesn't like.  Are they supposed to be there if so, can
> 
> Eww.  Just delete the offending comments.  They were put in during development
> and probably should have been removed long ago.

For those who want to know.  Having removed the comments and 'chmod 755
install-sh' it seems to have compiled fine on Solaris2.6.  Now for
egcs-1.1.1

Melanie

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> >Anyway, by initialisiing UART in uncomp_setup_arch() , I now get
> >"Uncompressing Linux...done"
> >and "now booting the kernel.",
> >but then .... nothing
> 
> Try putting debugging at the start of head-armv.S to see if it's managing to 
> call that code at the right address.  If so then trace it through and see 
> where it falls over.
> 

Ok, I've put debbuging stuff and now I can tell that It runs until we 
try to set MMU on. till there, I'm able to write things on serial at 
addr 0x42000000. After that, I try to write things on serial at addr 
0xFE000000, and I get nothing.

Here my code: (I know i'm destroying r3 and r4, but we dont need 
them between my two debugs)

There is one thing I dont understand: You initialise cr1 using r0, but 
r0 is not initialised in order to set MMU , is it ?
It has been used to address page tables

Christophe

@
@ The following should work on both v3 and v4 implementations
@
		mov	lr, pc
		mov	pc, r10					@ Call processor flush 
(returns ctrl reg)
		adr	r5, __entry
		sub	r10, r10, r5				@ Make r10 PIC
		ldr	lr, .Lbranch

		mov	r3,#0x042000000
1:		ldrb	r4,[r3,#0x178]
		tst	r4,#0x10
		beq	1b
		mov	r4,#'M'
		strb	r4,[r3,#0x160]

		mcr	p15, 0, r0, c1, c0			@ Enable MMU & 
caches.  In 3 instructions
								@ we lose this page!
		mov	pc, lr


.Lalready_done_mmap:
		mov	r3,#0xFE000000
1:		ldrb	r4,[r3,#0x178]
		tst	r4,#0x10
		beq	1b
		mov	r4,#'m'
		strb	r4,[r3,#0x160]



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>I can not seem to find the floating point emulator module mentioned under
>Documentation/arm/nwfpe nor can I find the emulator by R. King alluded to in
>the same docs.

NWFPE is in arch/arm/nwfpe.  The Acron emulator is not open source.

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Philip Blundell wrote:
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> >I can not seem to find the floating point emulator module mentioned under
> >Documentation/arm/nwfpe nor can I find the emulator by R. King alluded to in
> >the same docs.
> 
> NWFPE is in arch/arm/nwfpe.  The Acron emulator is not open source.
> 
> p.

OK, I'm an idiot - but, I get the kernel from kernel.org and I get the 
Arm patches from netwinder and I have nothing under the arch/arm/nwfpe path.

 
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>OK, I'm an idiot - but, I get the kernel from kernel.org and I get the 
>Arm patches from netwinder and I have nothing under the arch/arm/nwfpe path.

Sounds like either you have the wrong version of the ARM patches or they 
didn't apply properly for some reason.  Here's what you should have:

fountain:~/new-linux-arm/2.2.1/linux$ ls arch/arm/nwfpe/
ARM-gcc.h             fpa11.h               fpopcode.h
ChangeLog             fpa11.inl             fpsr.h
Makefile              fpa11_cpdo.c          milieu.h
config.h              fpa11_cpdt.c          single_cpdo.c
double_cpdo.c         fpa11_cprt.c          softfloat-macros
entry.S               fpmodule.c            softfloat-specialize
entry26.S             fpmodule.h            softfloat.c
extended_cpdo.c       fpmodule.inl          softfloat.h
fpa11.c               fpopcode.c
fountain:~/new-linux-arm/2.2.1/linux$ 

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>There is one thing I dont understand: You initialise cr1 using r0, but 
>r0 is not initialised in order to set MMU , is it ?

Yes, it's loaded by this subroutine call (which winds up at 
.Larmv4_flush_early)

>		mov	pc, r10					@ Call processo
>r flush 
>(returns ctrl reg)

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> >There is one thing I dont understand: You initialise cr1 using r0, but 
> >r0 is not initialised in order to set MMU , is it ?
> 
> Yes, it's loaded by this subroutine call (which winds up at 
> .Larmv4_flush_early)
> 
> >		mov	pc, r10					@ Call processo
> >r flush 
> >(returns ctrl reg)

Ok, so r0 is correctly initialised. 
Do you see any reason why I get the M printed on my terminal
before switching MMU on, and I dont get the m after MMU on ?

The progs continues at .Lalready_done_mmap, doesn't it ?

christophe
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christophe.leroy5@capway.com writes:
 > > >There is one thing I dont understand: You initialise cr1 using r0, but 
 > > >r0 is not initialised in order to set MMU , is it ?
 > > 
 > > Yes, it's loaded by this subroutine call (which winds up at 
 > > .Larmv4_flush_early)
 > > 
 > > >		mov	pc, r10					@ Call processo
 > > >r flush 
 > > >(returns ctrl reg)
 > 
 > Ok, so r0 is correctly initialised. 
 > Do you see any reason why I get the M printed on my terminal
 > before switching MMU on, and I dont get the m after MMU on ?
 > 
 > The progs continues at .Lalready_done_mmap, doesn't it ?

I've just caught up on this discussion on the armlinux mailing
list. I have the same problem :-( I'm a bit further along than
you now that I've written the beginnings of a debugger (I wish
I was joking..) The problem is in console_init, specifically the
test to see if the UART exists in serial_console_setup ...
On my hardware, and I'm guessing on yours, this doesn't exist - I
want to use the UART on the 21285....

I've tried several kernel configs which only have 21285 UART in,
but they don't build :-( Also check out PARAMS_BASE (hunt around in the
code) this struct is usually setup by the bootloader (it seems).

Hope this helps you along..

Andrew
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>The progs continues at .Lalready_done_mmap, doesn't it ?

That's certainly the idea, yes.

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>I've tried several kernel configs which only have 21285 UART in,
>but they don't build :-( Also check out PARAMS_BASE (hunt around in the

What's the error you get?  This certainly should be possible.

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Philip Blundell wrote:
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> >I've tried several kernel configs which only have 21285 UART in,
> >but they don't build :-( Also check out PARAMS_BASE (hunt around in the
> 
> What's the error you get?  This certainly should be possible.
> 
> p.

Depending on the the level the problem may be one or more of the following:

	1.) that at some point serail_21285.c was moved to 
	drivers/char yet arch/arm/Makefile modifies 
		CHAR_DRIVERS  := arch/arm/drivers/char/char.a

	thus char.a does not include serial_21285.o; thus the final link of the
	kernel complains.

	I hack this by:
		CHAR_DRIVERS  := drivers/char/char.a
	
	2.) The other thing may be that drivers/char/tty_io.c at some levels
	does not include a call to rs285_init(). (don't quote me on the function
	name).

	3.) Finally, don't define any of the other serial options such as 
	because in some level of tty_io.c  SERIAL_CONSOLE and SERIAL_21285_CONSOLE
	are mutually exclusive.

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Dave Baukus writes:
> Depending on the the level the problem may be one or more of the following:
> 
> 	1.) that at some point serail_21285.c was moved to 
> 	drivers/char yet arch/arm/Makefile modifies 
> 		CHAR_DRIVERS  := arch/arm/drivers/char/char.a
> 
> 	thus char.a does not include serial_21285.o; thus the final link of the
> 	kernel complains.
> 
> 	I hack this by:
> 		CHAR_DRIVERS  := drivers/char/char.a

Or get a more up to date kernel source.  Everything in arch/arm/drivers has been
gone for about 2 to 3 weeks now.
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Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote:
> 
> Dave Baukus writes:
> > Depending on the the level the problem may be one or more of the following:
> >
> >       1.) that at some point serail_21285.c was moved to
> >       drivers/char yet arch/arm/Makefile modifies
> >               CHAR_DRIVERS  := arch/arm/drivers/char/char.a
> >
> >       thus char.a does not include serial_21285.o; thus the final link of the
> >       kernel complains.
> >
> >       I hack this by:
> >               CHAR_DRIVERS  := drivers/char/char.a
> 
> Or get a more up to date kernel source.  Everything in arch/arm/drivers has been
> gone for about 2 to 3 weeks now.

Yea, I was hoping for that, but  the latest I can find is 2.2.1 w/
patch-2.2.1-rmk3 doesn't provide for SERIAL_21285 configuration in the config
scripts.

I haven't tracked down missing piece.


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>	2.) The other thing may be that drivers/char/tty_io.c at some levels
>	does not include a call to rs285_init(). (don't quote me on the 
>       function name).

I do seem to have this patch in my tree.  Not sure if it's still necessary.

diff -u --recursive --new-file clean/linux/drivers/char/tty_io.c linux/drivers/char/tty_io.c
--- clean/linux/drivers/char/tty_io.c	Tue Feb 16 21:12:28 1999
+++ linux/drivers/char/tty_io.c	Tue Feb 16 21:13:43 1999
@@ -130,6 +130,8 @@
 static int tty_fasync(int fd, struct file * filp, int on);
 extern long console_8xx_init(long, long);
 extern int rs_8xx_init(void);
+extern int rs285_init(void);
+extern long rs285_console_init(long, long);
 
 #ifndef MIN
 #define MIN(a,b)	((a) < (b) ? (a) : (b))
@@ -2155,6 +2160,9 @@
 #endif
 #ifdef CONFIG_ESPSERIAL  /* init ESP before rs, so rs doesn't see the port */
 	espserial_init();
+#endif
+#ifdef CONFIG_SERIAL_21285
+	rs285_init();
 #endif
 #ifdef CONFIG_SERIAL
 	rs_init();

>	3.) Finally, don't define any of the other serial options such as 
>	because in some level of tty_io.c  SERIAL_CONSOLE and 
>       SERIAL_21285_CONSOLE are mutually exclusive.

If this is the case in the latest kernel can you point to the problem?  I just 
looked at the code and didn't see anything obvious.  If you select both then 
the 16550 console will take precedence by default assuming both devices 
actually exist (eg on CATS or NetWinder).

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>Yea, I was hoping for that, but  the latest I can find is 2.2.1 w/
>patch-2.2.1-rmk3 doesn't provide for SERIAL_21285 configuration in the config
>scripts.

Yes, it does.  You need to have turned on `nonstandard serial port support' 
but it's there.  Look in drivers/char/Config.in.

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Dave Baukus writes:
> Yea, I was hoping for that, but  the latest I can find is 2.2.1 w/
> patch-2.2.1-rmk3 doesn't provide for SERIAL_21285 configuration in the config
> scripts.

It is in there:

   if [ "$CONFIG_FOOTBRIDGE" = "y" ]; then
     bool '21285 serial port support' CONFIG_SERIAL_21285
     if [ "$CONFIG_SERIAL_21285" = "y" ]; then
       bool '   Console on 21285 serial port' CONFIG_SERIAL_21285_CONSOLE
     fi
   fi

That's in the character devices section.  Look for (and set)

bool 'Non-standard serial port support' CONFIG_SERIAL_NONSTANDARD
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On Thu, 18 Feb 1999, Philip Blundell wrote:

> >It does, yes.  It's an EtherN, and the chipset is a Macronix MX98905.
> 
> It's just an NE2000 clone I think, similar to many others (probably the 
> majority of Acorn cards actually).  So it shouldn't be that hard to write 
> a driver.
> 
> p.
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So is there any chance of anyone doing so? It's just I had a mad idea of
setting up an NC as an mp3 player in my living room. I thought about
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John Lindley writes:
> On Thu, 18 Feb 1999, Philip Blundell wrote:
> > It's just an NE2000 clone I think, similar to many others (probably the 
> > majority of Acorn cards actually).  So it shouldn't be that hard to write 
> > a driver.
>
> So is there any chance of anyone doing so? It's just I had a mad idea of
> setting up an NC as an mp3 player in my living room. I thought about
> hacking about with dmpa, but I'd much prefer to use linux

Since it is a NE2000 clone, Linux already has a generic driver for such cards
(they're extremely popular with clone manufacturers, and there's literally
hundreds of chips out there which do NE2000 stuff).

All that needs doing is some code put around this driver to tell it where
the chip is, and how to put/get packets on to/off of the card.

If someone wants to take this on, take a look at the EtherH driver - that's
a NE2000 clone board.
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> christophe.leroy5@capway.com writes:
>  > > >There is one thing I dont understand: You initialise cr1 using r0, but 
>  > > >r0 is not initialised in order to set MMU , is it ?
>  > > 
>  > > Yes, it's loaded by this subroutine call (which winds up at 
>  > > .Larmv4_flush_early)
>  > > 
>  > > >		mov	pc, r10					@ Call processo
>  > > >r flush 
>  > > >(returns ctrl reg)
>  > 
>  > Ok, so r0 is correctly initialised. 
>  > Do you see any reason why I get the M printed on my terminal
>  > before switching MMU on, and I dont get the m after MMU on ?
>  > 
>  > The progs continues at .Lalready_done_mmap, doesn't it ?
> 
> I've just caught up on this discussion on the armlinux mailing
> list. I have the same problem :-( I'm a bit further along than
> you now that I've written the beginnings of a debugger (I wish
> I was joking..) The problem is in console_init, specifically the
> test to see if the UART exists in serial_console_setup ...
> On my hardware, and I'm guessing on yours, this doesn't exist - I
> want to use the UART on the 21285....
> 

So it means that you arrive at serial_console_setup.

My problem for now resides before realy starting the kernel, in 
head-armv.S

I'm able to write things on serial by writing bytes at 0x42000160 
(after been sure UART is free by testing 0x42000178) when MMU is OFF.
But When I try to write things on serial just after having switch MMU 
ON ,in the beginning of .Lalready_done_mmap  (So I write at 
0xFE000160, which is the supposed virtual adresse of UART), nothing 
happens. So I wonder what happens after having put MMU ON.

As you seem to have more experience than me on it, maybe have you an 
idea of what could be wrong at that point .

Christophe
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>So is there any chance of anyone doing so? It's just I had a mad idea of

I imagine the stumbling block is that the hardware is pretty rare.  Why not 
try to write one yourself?

p.


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christophe leroy writes:
> So it means that you arrive at serial_console_setup.
> 
> My problem for now resides before realy starting the kernel, in 
> head-armv.S
> 
> I'm able to write things on serial by writing bytes at 0x42000160 
> (after been sure UART is free by testing 0x42000178) when MMU is OFF.
> But When I try to write things on serial just after having switch MMU 
> ON ,in the beginning of .Lalready_done_mmap  (So I write at 
> 0xFE000160, which is the supposed virtual adresse of UART), nothing 
> happens. So I wonder what happens after having put MMU ON.

There is at the bottom of head-armv.S a load of debugging code for exactly
this sort of debugging.  You may want to try some of it out.  Note however,
that it does require a serial lead with RTS and CTS connected (it's sometimes
useful while using these to be able to stop the kernel...)
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> >So is there any chance of anyone doing so? It's just I had a mad idea of
> 
> I imagine the stumbling block is that the hardware is pretty rare.  Why not 
> try to write one yourself?

  At the moment I thinking of doing just that.  I have a collegue who is looking into getting the relevant hardware specs from Irlam so maybe sometime soon an nc could be running linux :)

  As an aside surely if someone wanted to get an nc running linux-arm why not just swap out the network card for one that is supported (say an etherh).

  Cheers,

  Tom

  BTW:  Just remembered, on a previous post someone stated that the network card inside an nc is an ethern.  From the irlam website the card is stated as an etheri.  Who is right? (my money is on irlam :))
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   Debian-ARM for the NetWinder
   ============================

   Bootable Image (with versioned glibc) - February 20, 1999

   Jim Pick <jim@jimpick.com>


I've prepared a bootable image of the Debian base system that can be
installed onto a partition on a NetWinder, so it can be booted
directly into Debian.  The packages use glibc 2.1, compiled to use
versioned symbols.

This image can also be used as a chroot environment - without
affecting the software that HCC/Corel supplies.  The binaries are now
compiled without StrongARM optimizations - so they theoretically
should work on any ARM-based machine that has an ELF Linux kernel
available and uses the ARMv3 or better instruction set.

The image is minimally configured - containing just enough installed
packages to make it easy to download the official ARM packages from Debian
and some additional non-official/local packages from my HTTP/FTP server.

                          *** WARNING ***

DO NOT use this image as your only means of booting your NetWinder.
It is strongly suggested that you keep the HCC/Corel Red Hat image on
a separate partition - or after installing the Debian successfully to
one partition, install it to another partition.  You want to preserve
your options for booting.  You could also set up a network boot
environment via DHCP in case you get into trouble.  See Stany's
NetWinder Rescue HOWTO on netwinder.org.

The Debian port is still a work-in-progress, watch for falling objects.

In particular - realize that these are new packages that use a glibc 2.1
that was built with versioned symbols enabled.  The binaries and libraries
supplied with this image are completely binary incompatible with the
older Debian ARM packages, and with the current HCC/Corel RPMs (which
still use the unversioned glibc).  It should be binary compatible with
the future ARM distribution from Red Hat, and with the "Titan" RPM
distribution.

Known Bugs:

  * The "therm" program hasn't been ported yet.  So there isn't a 
    way of controlling the fan.
  * the 'ps' command has weird output
  * the X packages don't work right
  * Many packages are lacking documentation, because I didn't have
    nsgmls or tetex working when I built them.
  * The framebuffer driver seems to have some redrawing problems
    with this particular kernel.  Hitting ^l will redraw the screen
    for you.
  * nsgmls seems to be broken.

  (There's probably plenty more bugs.  All the packages supplied on
   the current image are "unofficial", and will soon be replaced by
   properly built packages that will be uploaded to the main
   Debian distribution)

Here's what you do (as root) in order to install it:

  1) Download the image from:

         ftp://ftp.jimpick.com/pub/debian/arm/image/

     The filename should be something like:  debian-image_990220.tar.gz

     It's approximately a 9MB download.  It is also available as a
     bzip2'd tar archive.

  2) Upgrade your flash to San Mehat's latest NeTTROM.  Get it at his
     developer's page on the restricted access portion of netwinder.org:

         http://www.netwinder.org/devel/notes/sanm.html 

     Read the instructions very carefully (unfortunately, they are buried
     in the web page - there isn't a separate doc).  If you mess up when
     burning your flash, it would be inconvenient.  I recommend printing
     off this page before you try to redo your flash.

     Install the upgrade, and ensure that you can reboot normally.
 
  2) Pick a partition where you want to install it.  Hopefully, you have a
     free partition available.  There isn't currently a good way to
     repartition your system - eventually, it should be possible to boot from
     flash and repartition from there - but you'll have to wait for that.

  3) Go to the base of that partition, and untar the file, ie:

       # tar xzvf debian-image_990220.tar.gz

     This will untar the files directly into the current directory - so
     make sure you are in the directory where you want it!

  4) You'll want to edit etc/fstab to make sure the base partition listed
     is the same as the one you actually installed it onto. 

  5) Reboot the system, and interrupt the booting sequence to get the 
     NettROM prompts.  If you installed the image to /dev/hda4, you would
     set the NettROM up like so (assuming you had defaults for all the
     other variables):

        setenv kernconfig fs
	setenv kerndev /dev/hda4
	setenv kernfile /Image
	setenv rootconfig disk
	setenv rootdev /dev/hda4
	save-all   (or just "boot" if you want to try it out for one time only)

  6) Hopefully it boots, and you will be inside Debian!

  7) You'll want to do several things:

        a) reset the root password
	b) configure your hostname (in /etc/hostname)
	c) set your timezone "tzconfig"
	d) setup your networking (in /etc/init.d/network)

  8) You will want to edit /etc/resolv.conf to point to your nameservers
     and to use your domain name.  Or you can just leave it pointing at
     mine.  

  9) Install additional packages.  You do this using the "dselect" program.

     Dselect has been configured to use the "apt" access method.  It
     will look for package files via http from the collection of unofficial
     packages on ftp.jimpick.com.  When we build some official packages
     using versioning, you will want to edit /etc/apt/sources.list
     so that apt-get and dselect will pull the packages from your
     favourite Debian mirror site.

 10) You should have a functional Debian environment set up now!  You might
     want to go on and add some users (using "adduser"), and do some
     additional configuration.

     You might want to join the debian-arm mailing list, by sending a
     message contain the word "subscribe" in the body to
     debian-arm-request@lists.debian.org .

     Also, feel free to check our website, which is at:

       http://www.debian.org/ports/arm/

If you have any questions, please direct them to the mailing list.  If
you have a correction/clarification for this set of instructions, please
send me a note - <jim@jimpick.com> .

Cheers,

 - Jim

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> christophe leroy writes:
> > So it means that you arrive at serial_console_setup.
> > 
> > My problem for now resides before realy starting the kernel, in 
> > head-armv.S
> > 
> > I'm able to write things on serial by writing bytes at 0x42000160 
> > (after been sure UART is free by testing 0x42000178) when MMU is OFF.
> > But When I try to write things on serial just after having switch MMU 
> > ON ,in the beginning of .Lalready_done_mmap  (So I write at 
> > 0xFE000160, which is the supposed virtual adresse of UART), nothing 
> > happens. So I wonder what happens after having put MMU ON.
> 
> There is at the bottom of head-armv.S a load of debugging code for exactly
> this sort of debugging.  You may want to try some of it out.  Note however,
> that it does require a serial lead with RTS and CTS connected (it's sometimes
> useful while using these to be able to stop the kernel...)

I'd a look at it. It's exactly what I'm doing.
On EBSA285, RTS and CTS arent used

christophe
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Ok, for all those people still using Acorn machines, there are new versions
of !Linux and !PartMan on the FTP site in /pub/armlinux/testing

Common changes:
  - lookup Filecore_SectorOp SWI before trying to determine if the
    filesystem has it's own _SectorOp call (was causing problems with
    ICS IDEFS)

!Linux changes:
  - Removed check for VRAM on ARM6 and up.  This does not imply that Linux
    will work without VRAM - you will need at least Linux 2.2.2 or later
    to try this out.

!PartMan changes:
  - basic RISCiX support on both SCSI and MFM drives (please test).
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christophe leroy writes:
> I'd a look at it. It's exactly what I'm doing.
> On EBSA285, RTS and CTS arent used

I know that my printascii (etc) code does indeed work correctly in all
EBSA285 releases, so if you're doing the same as my debugging code, you
can't be getting to .Lalready_done_mmap.  The only thing that would
stop this is if the kernel was not correctly located in memory.

I seem to remember you were adding some extra code at the start of the
kernel by using objcopy - this is probably where the problem lies.  Your
extra code is relocating the kernel, and thereby causing all the internal
references in the code to point at the wrong place.

Try adding your code directly into arch/arm/head-armv.S
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OK, so I'm new to this game, but I can't find an answer anywhere also
and I've tried all sorts.

Having finally managed to get ARMLinux to install, I waited for it to
ftp all the files which it did quite happily.  I configured the clock
and the keyboard, and then it said:
	I couldn't find a kernel!
and refused to go any further without one (quite understandable
really)

What am I doing wrong?

John

RPC600, 24+1Mb, 210+730Mb.  ANT EtherB in network card slot.
adfs on hda1, hdb1.
kernel on hdb1.
linux on hdb3 (2 table, 4 swap).

nb. the only possible problem I can imagine is that linux is failing
to read hdb, which I had problems getting to run from RISC OS.
(Although all the files appear there quite happily).  It is a Western
Digital IDE.

--
_Bump!_
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"Help!" said a small, high voice.
"That's me again," thought Pooh. "I've had an Accident and fallen down
a well, and my voice has gone all squeaky and works before I'm ready
for it, because I've done something to myself inside. Bother!"

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Hi,

Trying to fsck my hard disc, with both the Red Hat fsck and Jim's Debian
fsck, fsck itself segv's, ie:
	fsck /dev/hda
doesn't do a whole lot, gives a segmentation fault and dies.

Has anyone seen this, and are there any ideas out there as to how to fix
it? The machine locked up during some heavy disc thrashing, and I can't
restore the filesystem properly now :-(

	Thanks,

	Neil

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Well,

I've found if I use e2fsck rather than just fsck, I get away with it...
But then the system stiffs during the disc check :-( The keeps on
blinking fine, and the disc light stays on---doing nothing. If I then
press a key on the keyboard, the cursor goes solid too.

Time to start getting into the guts of the code and working out what's
what---if the machine will stay up long enough to build the kernel
(maybe I'll refrain from using a disc and just stick with the
network---this seems more stable). Any hints on how to start
fishing---do we have an in-kernel debugger or remote gdb?

	:-(

	Neil

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On Sun, Feb 21, 1999 at 04:46:49PM -0800, Neil A. Carson wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Trying to fsck my hard disc, with both the Red Hat fsck and Jim's Debian
> fsck, fsck itself segv's, ie:
> 	fsck /dev/hda
> doesn't do a whole lot, gives a segmentation fault and dies.
> 
> Has anyone seen this, and are there any ideas out there as to how to fix
> it? The machine locked up during some heavy disc thrashing, and I can't
> restore the filesystem properly now :-(

Is /dev/hda itself an ext2 filesystem?  Most systems use the hda1, hda2 etc
partitions, and you'll need to use the partition name rather than the
disc name as what you give to fsck.  If you can't find out which partition
you need to fsck from `mount` or `cat /etc/fstab`, partition names will
increase from hda1 if you have a disc with a DOS partition table, and
they'll start at hda3 if your disc has the extra linux partition table
stuck after a filecore partition.

Cheers,
Phil
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On Mon, 22 Feb 1999, Phil Norman wrote:

> you need to fsck from `mount` or `cat /etc/fstab`, partition names will
> increase from hda1 if you have a disc with a DOS partition table, and
> they'll start at hda3 if your disc has the extra linux partition table
> stuck after a filecore partition.

That's not the problem; I simply newfs'd the whole disc rather than
bothering with any partitions (my ext2f reader in the bootloader won't
recognise partitions yet). And I won't let a filecore FS anywhere near it
:-)

	Neil


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>I've found if I use e2fsck rather than just fsck, I get away with it...
>But then the system stiffs during the disc check :-( The keeps on
>blinking fine, and the disc light stays on---doing nothing. If I then
>press a key on the keyboard, the cursor goes solid too.

Cripes. :-(

It could be that the code to handle ISA irqs still isn't quite right.  That's 
been banged on rather less than most things and it's one of the few bits that 
is different between systems.  I'll go and stare at the source some more and 
see if I can spot anything wrong.

I take it this means you managed to solve your earlier problem (wrong IRQ 
settings) though.  What was the solution?

p.


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Thanks for your help ! I'm now running longer.
The problem was that I had had things at the beginning of head.S, 
which I think did move the kernel at the wrong place (why ?)
Now I've replaced some of the nop by what I need, so I dont move 
code anymore and it works.

So, now I can run till paging_init, but after paging_init I dont have
any output more. 
Does paging_init invalidates page 0xFE000000, so I cannot write 
anymore directly into UART, or is that paginig_init that never 
returns ?

Christophe


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Russell King - ARM Linux Admin writes:
 > Dave Baukus writes:
 > > Depending on the the level the problem may be one or more of the following:
 > > 
 > > 	1.) that at some point serail_21285.c was moved to 
 > > 	drivers/char yet arch/arm/Makefile modifies 
 > > 		CHAR_DRIVERS  := arch/arm/drivers/char/char.a
 > > 
 > > 	thus char.a does not include serial_21285.o; thus the final link of the
 > > 	kernel complains.
 > > 
 > > 	I hack this by:
 > > 		CHAR_DRIVERS  := drivers/char/char.a
 > 
 > Or get a more up to date kernel source.  Everything in arch/arm/drivers has been
 > gone for about 2 to 3 weeks now.

But...

I'm using 2.2.1 patched with patch-2.2.1-19990128-1.gz ..

Patching with patch-2.2.1-rmk3.gz or patch-2.2.1-rmk4.gz and running
xconfig doesn't allow me to configure "Character Devices/21285 serial port support",
and I only have a 21285 serial port...

Andrew
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Andrew Thomas writes:
 > Russell King - ARM Linux Admin writes:
 >  > Dave Baukus writes:
 >  > > Depending on the the level the problem may be one or more of the following:
 >  > > 
 >  > > 	1.) that at some point serail_21285.c was moved to 
 >  > > 	drivers/char yet arch/arm/Makefile modifies 
 >  > > 		CHAR_DRIVERS  := arch/arm/drivers/char/char.a
 >  > > 
 >  > > 	thus char.a does not include serial_21285.o; thus the final link of the
 >  > > 	kernel complains.
 >  > > 
 >  > > 	I hack this by:
 >  > > 		CHAR_DRIVERS  := drivers/char/char.a
 >  > 
 >  > Or get a more up to date kernel source.  Everything in arch/arm/drivers has been
 >  > gone for about 2 to 3 weeks now.
 > 
 > But...
 > 
 > I'm using 2.2.1 patched with patch-2.2.1-19990128-1.gz ..
 > 
 > Patching with patch-2.2.1-rmk3.gz or patch-2.2.1-rmk4.gz and running
 > xconfig doesn't allow me to configure "Character Devices/21285 serial port support",
 > and I only have a 21285 serial port...

Oops. Enable non standard "non standard serial support"

Sorry (it is a monday morning after all :-))

Andrew
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Neil A. Carson said:
> Trying to fsck my hard disc, with both the Red Hat fsck and Jim's Debian
> fsck, fsck itself segv's, ie:
> 	fsck /dev/hda
> doesn't do a whole lot, gives a segmentation fault and dies.
> 
> Has anyone seen this, and are there any ideas out there as to how to fix
> it? The machine locked up during some heavy disc thrashing, and I can't
> restore the filesystem properly now :-(

I'm not too surprised that it doesn't work.  /dev/hda is the whole
drive, not a specific partition, and hence does not contain a value
fsck-able filesystem.

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christophe.leroy5@capway.com said:
> Thanks for your help ! I'm now running longer.
> The problem was that I had had things at the beginning of head.S, 
> which I think did move the kernel at the wrong place (why ?)
> Now I've replaced some of the nop by what I need, so I dont move 
> code anymore and it works.

Since the kernel is linked to be at address 0x8000, and you've added
code to the start of the kernel which tells the AIF loader that your
extra code starts at 0x8000, the kernel is going to be in the wrong
place.

> Does paging_init invalidates page 0xFE000000, so I cannot write 
> anymore directly into UART, or is that paginig_init that never 
> returns ?

No.  Please use the printascii, it's there for this sort of debugging!
Try putting it into 'printk' since it will hopefully allow the kernel
to tell you what's going wrong.

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> > >It does, yes.  It's an EtherN, and the chipset is a Macronix MX98905.
> > 
> > It's just an NE2000 clone I think, similar to many others (probably the 
> > majority of Acorn cards actually).  So it shouldn't be that hard to write 
> > a driver.

Umm. The Macronix stuff nowdays is tulip clone(ish)

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>> > >It does, yes.  It's an EtherN, and the chipset is a Macronix MX98905.
>> > 
>> > It's just an NE2000 clone I think, similar to many others (probably the 
>> > majority of Acorn cards actually).  So it shouldn't be that hard to write 
>> > a driver.
>
>Umm. The Macronix stuff nowdays is tulip clone(ish)

I thought the 98905 was one of the old 8390 style chips.  If the tulip clones 
are PCI based it would be pretty painful to interface them to a podule bus.

p.


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Alan Cox wrote:

> Umm. The Macronix stuff nowdays is tulip clone(ish)

The tulip clones are 98713, 715, 725 and up. 

Tom
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> 
> > Does paging_init invalidates page 0xFE000000, so I cannot write 
> > anymore directly into UART, or is that paginig_init that never 
> > returns ?
> 
> No.  Please use the printascii, it's there for this sort of debugging!
> Try putting it into 'printk' since it will hopefully allow the kernel
> to tell you what's going wrong.
> 

Ok, I've added debugging code to printk, and then I can tell:
It hangs in setup_pagetables in paging_init, which is called with 
start_mem=0xC0075DA4 and end_mem=0xCEFD0240 (what 
strange values)

I'd a look at setup arch and I got params=0xC0000100, 
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I think something is wrong there. Should be params struct be 
initialised somewhere before ? or params be null ?

Christophe
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>params....page_size=0xe59FF018 and nr_pages=0xe59FF018
>I think something is wrong there.

Definitely.  Those two numbers are ARM instructions.

>Should be params struct be 
>initialised somewhere before ? or params be null ?

If you don't have a bootloader to initialise the params struct, you need to 
fiddle setup.c to set params=NULL.  Otherwise you'll be in all sorts of 
trouble.

p.


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Hi

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Hi

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All,
	can someone point me to a known good minimal ELF object
format ram disk?  I need something real basic that uses 
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> >Should be params struct be 
> >initialised somewhere before ? or params be null ?
> 
> If you don't have a bootloader to initialise the params struct, you need to 
> fiddle setup.c to set params=NULL.  Otherwise you'll be in all sorts of 
> trouble.
> 

Thanks a lot, now it works better. (not yet the best) 

I've now managed to begin to boot, but kernel keeps waiting at
PCI: Probing PCI hardware.
Is there something wrong with PCI ? My card is configured as host-
bridge and is plugged on DEC PCI backplane

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christophe.leroy5@capway.com said:
> I think something is wrong there. Should be params struct be 
> initialised somewhere before ? or params be null ?

Yes, by a boot loader, or params can be NULL (in which case you
have to specify the memory size using mem=).

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>I've now managed to begin to boot, but kernel keeps waiting at
>PCI: Probing PCI hardware.
>Is there something wrong with PCI ? My card is configured as host-
>bridge and is plugged on DEC PCI backplane

Check that you're clearing down the PCI reset signal.  I think the kernel 
expects the bootloader to do this.  Even then though you will probably need 
something to set up the BARs; the kernel can't currently do all the PCI 
stuff on its own.

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> >I've now managed to begin to boot, but kernel keeps waiting at
> >PCI: Probing PCI hardware.
> >Is there something wrong with PCI ? My card is configured as host-
> >bridge and is plugged on DEC PCI backplane
> 
> Check that you're clearing down the PCI reset signal.  I think the kernel 
> expects the bootloader to do this.  Even then though you will probably need 
> something to set up the BARs; the kernel can't currently do all the PCI 
> stuff on its own.
> 

Ok, so is there a bootloader somewhere that is able to do that ?

Christophe
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>Ok, so is there a bootloader somewhere that is able to do that ?

I assume there must be, since people are running Linux on EBSA boards 
successfully.  But I don't know where you can get it.  Russell King is 
probably da man.

p.


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> >Ok, so is there a bootloader somewhere that is able to do that ?
> 
> I assume there must be, since people are running Linux on EBSA boards 
> successfully.  But I don't know where you can get it.  Russell King is 
> probably da man.
> 

EBSA285 Manual is clear enough to do one my self. 
Now My kernel boots until rootfs mount.

Thanks for people who helped me.
For those who, like I did,  have problems to boot Linux kernel on 
EBSA285,
I can give them everything they need to boot.

Christophe
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I've put a new kernel patch on ftp.netwinder.org.  This includes:

 - actually do the "disable FIQs while updating irq masks" thing, since Econet
   doesn't stand much of a chance without.  If you're using floppies on an
   old Acorn machine, especially in high bandwidth modes, be careful.  
   RiscPCs and anything non Acorn won't be affected.

 - /proc/cpuinfo now includes a `machine serial number' field.  The only 
   machine where this currently does anything exciting is the A5000 which puts 
   its unique ID there.  This would probably work for the RiscPC too (just 
   needs enabling in setup.c); if anybody tries it, let me know what happens.
   NetWinders with a new enough NeTTrom might also get a valid number for 
   this.

 - usual other stuff, see the CHANGES.philb file (hopefully now more or less 
   up to date) for full details.

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Hi everybody!

Is there an SSH implementation vor ARMLinux anywhere?

TIA! :-)

Greetings,

-- 
 Stefan Bellon <bellonsn@trick.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de>
 Acorn RiscPC * StrongARM 202 MHz * 66 MB RAM

 1/1=1.089089789701234132  :  It's close enough. (Intel 1994)
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I'm having problems getting RISC OS to load my newly compile 2.2.1 kernel.
I'm invoking linux from matthew's !Marble app, but I believe that that calls
Russel's bootloader, so I suspect that the bootloader (or me) is he problem

If I make zImage then the bootloader says something like "invalid
compressed data" (err=1) and then halts the system.
If I try vmlinux (is that the uncompressed kernel, or am I daft here)
it just locks up.

I've looked at the top of the zImage file and the first 4 bytes differ
between 2.2.1 and 2.0.35 but are the same between the 3 2.0.35 kernels
I have - has the format changed?

I tried downloading the bootladoer from the ARMlinux ftp site, but
it's dated 1997 so I don't think that'll help me.

What am I doing wrong?

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>If I make zImage then the bootloader says something like "invalid
>compressed data" (err=1) and then halts the system.

Check that you've got the latest !Linux.  This used to be an endemic problem 
but I think it was solved some time ago.

Loading vmlinux directly won't work; it's not a straight executable image.  
You could try `make Image' which will give you an uncompressed 
arch/arm/boot/Image that should be OK, but it's not much more likely to work 
than the compressed version.

p.


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Philip Blundell wrote:
> 
> >I've found if I use e2fsck rather than just fsck, I get away with it...
> >But then the system stiffs during the disc check :-( The keeps on
> >blinking fine, and the disc light stays on---doing nothing. If I then
> >press a key on the keyboard, the cursor goes solid too.
> 
> Cripes. :-(
> 
> It could be that the code to handle ISA irqs still isn't quite right.  That's
> been banged on rather less than most things and it's one of the few bits that
> is different between systems.  I'll go and stare at the source some more and
> see if I can spot anything wrong.
> 
> I take it this means you managed to solve your earlier problem (wrong IRQ
> settings) though.  What was the solution?

Not sure---I just moved the hard disc to the other channel ;) It'll do.

	Neil
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Russell King wrote:

> I'm not too surprised that it doesn't work.  /dev/hda is the whole
> drive, not a specific partition, and hence does not contain a value
> fsck-able filesystem.

But it did; I mke2fs'd the entire device, to avoid any partitioning
problems. Given the rest of Linux, and s2fsck was happy with it, why
wasn't fsck? In any case, it shouldn't segv... If I generate a patch,
can you feed backt hings like that or do I need to contact the fsck
author directly?

	Neil
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Nicholas Clark writes:
> If I make zImage then the bootloader says something like "invalid
> compressed data" (err=1) and then halts the system.

Hmm, sounds like the boot loader is not mapping the kernel correctly.

> If I try vmlinux (is that the uncompressed kernel, or am I daft here)
> it just locks up.

This is the expected behaviour.

> I've looked at the top of the zImage file and the first 4 bytes differ
> between 2.2.1 and 2.0.35 but are the same between the 3 2.0.35 kernels
> I have - has the format changed?

Ever so slightly, but I wasn't aware that old loaders couldn't load it.

> I tried downloading the bootladoer from the ARMlinux ftp site, but
> it's dated 1997 so I don't think that'll help me.

There are later - see /pub/armlinux/testing
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On Mon, Feb 22, 1999 at 06:31:10PM +0000, Philip Blundell wrote:
> I've put a new kernel patch on ftp.netwinder.org.  This includes:
>  - /proc/cpuinfo now includes a `machine serial number' field.  The only 
>    machine where this currently does anything exciting is the A5000 which
>    puts its unique ID there.  This would probably work for the RiscPC too
>    (just needs enabling in setup.c); if anybody tries it, let me know what
>    happens.  NetWinders with a new enough NeTTrom might also get a valid
>    number for this.

Oooh.  That's useful for people who have network slot cards.  Now we
just need to figure out what wacko way the EtherM is wired up..

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On Mon, Feb 22, 1999 at 07:39:40PM +0100, Stefan Bellon wrote:
> Hi everybody!
> 
> Is there an SSH implementation vor ARMLinux anywhere?

ftp://ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/linux/arm/RedHat/non-free/RPMS

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In article <19990223000153.J24922@mencheca.ch.genedata.com>,
   Matthew Wilcox <Matthew.Wilcox@genedata.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 22, 1999 at 07:39:40PM +0100, Stefan Bellon wrote:
> > Hi everybody!
> > 
> > Is there an SSH implementation vor ARMLinux anywhere?

> ftp://ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/linux/arm/RedHat/non-free/RPMS

Thanks a lot! :-)

Greetings,

-- 
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On Mon, 22 Feb, Paul Koning  wrote:
> >>>>> "John"  John Ballance <jwb@castle-technology.co.uk> writes:
> 
>  John> Hi Has anyone got a working PCNFSD for redhat linux on
>  John> I386?.. if so where could I get a copy?
> 
> I sure don't see why you posted that question on an ARM related list.

Reason:.. I'm really trying to get an arm linux compilable (on riscpc or on
i386).. 
so far NO SUCCESS..

thats why I mainly listen to this list.. though I admit its perhaps not the
ideal place.

PCNFSD IS unix.. its the bit required for user authentication by Acorn's
NFS.. without
its services any attempt to contact linux nfs from acorn fails, except for
user 'nobody'.

PCNFSD IS available in NetBSD, it just seems to not be present in RedHat..

I suspected that ArmLinux types might have met this problem already and
be able to suggest an answer...

Any offers?

John

> 
> Anyway, PCNFSD sounds like a program for Windows.  If you want nfs on
> redhat linux, you can ask for it during installation, or afterwards
> install the nfs (nfsd?) package.  It's well integrated and of course
> included at no charge.
> 
>  paul

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In article <48d89983e7bellonsn@trick.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de>,
   Stefan Bellon <bellonsn@trick> wrote:
> In article <19990223000153.J24922@mencheca.ch.genedata.com>,
>    Matthew Wilcox <Matthew.Wilcox@genedata.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 22, 1999 at 07:39:40PM +0100, Stefan Bellon wrote:
> > > Hi everybody!
> > > 
> > > Is there an SSH implementation vor ARMLinux anywhere?

> > ftp://ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/linux/arm/RedHat/non-free/RPMS

> Thanks a lot! :-)

Sorry to follow-up myself, but I have another question:

I managed to install the SSH RPMS, but only with the --nodeps switch
set. rpm complained, that /bin/sh would be missing although /bin/sh is
present. Hm. What could be the cause of that? :-/

Greetings,

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In include/asm-arm/arch-rpc/uncompress.h there is
#include "../arch/arm/drivers/char/font.h"

I can't find a file which looks anything like this, so I just deleted the
offending line.  However then I get

arm-linux-ld -m elf32arm -Ttext 0x10008000 -o vmlinux head.o misc.o /usr/src/linux-2.2-arm/arch/arm/lib/ll_char_wr.o piggy.o
/usr/src/linux-2.2-arm/arch/arm/lib/ll_char_wr.o(.text+0x8): undefined reference to `cmap_80'
make[2]: *** [vmlinux] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.2-arm/arch/arm/boot/compressed'

Grepping the source tree finds no references to this anywhere else.

Deleting the offending reference in arch/arm/lib/ll_char_wr.S produces a
kernel which builds.  I'll try booting it tomorrow...

For your convenience:

--- arch/arm/lib/ll_char_wr.S	Tue Feb 23 03:04:04 1999
+++ arch/arm/lib/ll_char_wr.S.old	Tue Feb 23 03:08:54 1999
@@ -25,6 +25,7 @@
 
 LC0:		.word	SYMBOL_NAME(bytes_per_char_h)
 		.word	SYMBOL_NAME(video_size_row)
+		.word	SYMBOL_NAME(cmap_80)
 		.word	SYMBOL_NAME(con_charconvtable)
 
 ENTRY(ll_write_char)
--- include/asm-arm/arch-rpc/uncompress.h~	Sat Feb  6 06:37:07 1999
+++ include/asm-arm/arch-rpc/uncompress.h	Tue Feb 23 02:17:15 1999
@@ -5,7 +5,6 @@
  */
 #define VIDMEM ((char *)SCREEN_START)
  
-#include "../arch/arm/drivers/char/font.h"
 #include <asm/hardware.h>
 #include <asm/io.h>
 

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Matthew Wilcox writes:
> Grepping the source tree finds no references to this anywhere else.
> 
> Deleting the offending reference in arch/arm/lib/ll_char_wr.S produces a
> kernel which builds.  I'll try booting it tomorrow...

Ok, I've fixed it to use the font defined in drivers/video/font_acorn_8x8.c
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> 
> Hi Christophe,
> 
> I have been following this discussion since it started.  You mentioned
> below you would be willing to share info on booting Linux on the
> ebsa-285.  We have our own similar hardware, nad I would be interested
> in attempting to get Linux to run on it.  So, as you say, can you give
> me everything I need to boot?:)  Thanks!
> 

Find attached a tar archive that contains something to create a 
linux.axf that you can download to flash using FMU, and a patch 
on linux2.2.1+patch-2.2.1-rmk4, that do necessery inits (r0, r1, 
MMU off, PCI init, serial init).

Dont forget to choose 21285 serial port and console on 21285 
serial port in char devices, non standard serial ports, in kernel 
config.

I'm currently working on a block device for flash memory

Christophe
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I am trying to find out a complete GCC tool for the Brutus card.
(I have now no more time to build one)

Where can I get it ?

thanks for your answer...





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> christophe.leroy5@capway.com said:
> > I think something is wrong there. Should be params struct be 
> > initialised somewhere before ? or params be null ?
> 
> Yes, by a boot loader, or params can be NULL (in which case you
> have to specify the memory size using mem=).
> 

I've now a kernel that boots correctly. I've added a network card, and
the kernel says me that It has detected my card but the card has 
no IO adress assigned. I think that I have some PCI configs to do,
but I dont know what to do

Do you know where I can find a BIOS for EBSA285, that does it,
or where I can find infos on PCI bus in order to write a PCI 
configurator ?

Thanks

Christophe
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In message <199902230939.KAA14906@wanadoo.fr>, christophe.leroy5@capway.com wri
tes:
>I've now a kernel that boots correctly. I've added a network card, and
>the kernel says me that It has detected my card but the card has 
>no IO adress assigned. I think that I have some PCI configs to do,
>but I dont know what to do

Yes.  You need to scan the bus and allocate I/O and memory regions.  If you 
can do this in a way that fits neatly into the generic PCI support that would 
be a plus.

>or where I can find infos on PCI bus in order to write a PCI 
>configurator ?

Check your local bookstore.  You should be able to buy a book about PCI 
without too much trouble and everything is explained in there.

p.


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At 10:42 AM 2/23/99 +0100, christophe.leroy5@capway.com wrote:
>> christophe.leroy5@capway.com said:
>> > I think something is wrong there. Should be params struct be 
>> > initialised somewhere before ? or params be null ?
>> 
>> Yes, by a boot loader, or params can be NULL (in which case you
>> have to specify the memory size using mem=).
>> 
>
>I've now a kernel that boots correctly. I've added a network card, and
>the kernel says me that It has detected my card but the card has 
>no IO adress assigned. I think that I have some PCI configs to do,
>but I dont know what to do
>
>Do you know where I can find a BIOS for EBSA285, that does it,
>or where I can find infos on PCI bus in order to write a PCI 
>configurator ?
>

The Linux kernel includes full PCI setup code (BIOS if you will).
I originally wrote it for the Alpha and it was then taken, expanded
etc.   It is very functional, I believe that it runs/works on the ebsa-285
at system start up.  I am assuming that this is the case 'cos I have
another PCI based ARM system that I'm about to turn PCI on for.  Right now
I'm at the 'loading  a RAMdisk stage'...


>Thanks
>
>Christophe
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AnnaBooks ( http://www.annabooks.com ) has a couple of reference
manuals on PCI. The one I got from Annabooks seems very complete,
but then I haven't tried to do anything with PCI hardware using 
that info yet :-).

Philip Blundell wrote:
> 
> In message <199902230939.KAA14906@wanadoo.fr>, christophe.leroy5@capway.com wri
> tes:
> >I've now a kernel that boots correctly. I've added a network card, and
> >the kernel says me that It has detected my card but the card has
> >no IO adress assigned. I think that I have some PCI configs to do,
> >but I dont know what to do
> 
> Yes.  You need to scan the bus and allocate I/O and memory regions.  If you
> can do this in a way that fits neatly into the generic PCI support that would
> be a plus.
> 
> >or where I can find infos on PCI bus in order to write a PCI
> >configurator ?
> 
> Check your local bookstore.  You should be able to buy a book about PCI
> without too much trouble and everything is explained in there.
> 
> p.
> 
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PCI Hardware and Software Architecture & Design
by Edward Solari & George Willse
ISBN 092939259-0
from Amazon or Annabooks

christophe.leroy5@capway.com wrote:
> 
> > christophe.leroy5@capway.com said:
> > > I think something is wrong there. Should be params struct be
> > > initialised somewhere before ? or params be null ?
> >
> > Yes, by a boot loader, or params can be NULL (in which case you
> > have to specify the memory size using mem=).
> >
> 
> I've now a kernel that boots correctly. I've added a network card, and
> the kernel says me that It has detected my card but the card has
> no IO adress assigned. I think that I have some PCI configs to do,
> but I dont know what to do
> 
> Do you know where I can find a BIOS for EBSA285, that does it,
> or where I can find infos on PCI bus in order to write a PCI
> configurator ?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Christophe
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Tim,

Did you find a solution for the problem you described? I followed
Christophe's instructions step by step and everything seemed to work fine
(after a few minor ajustments, that is) until I go back to finish building
'EGCS'. That's when it fails with the error:

checking whether the C compiler (/home/chagas/egcs/egcs-1.1.1/gcc/xgcc
-B/home/c
hagas/egcs/egcs-1.1.1/gcc/ -g -O2 ) works... no
configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot
create executables.
make: *** [configure-target-libiberty] Error 1

Note I tested 'xgcc' and seems to run ok:

#./xgcc -v
Reading specs from /usr/local/arm/lib/gcc-lib/arm-linux/egcs-2.91.60/specs
gcc version egcs-2.91.60 19990113/philb (egcs-1.1.1 release)

Am I missing something?

Jason


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	From:  christophe.leroy5@capway.com
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	Sent:  Friday, February 19, 1999 3:38 AM
	To:  Tim Lindquist
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	Subject:  Re: HELP - Egcs 1.1.1

	Let me sum up stages and tell me where it fails, I'll help you

	- Compile and install binutils-1.9.1.0.19a
		./configure --target=arm-linux --prefix=where_you_want
		make
		make install
	- add where_you_want/bin in your PATH
	- Untar egcs, patch it, find . -name "*.rej"
	- enter egcs dir, then ./configure --target=arm-linux --
	prefix=wher_you_want_the_same
	- modify makefile to add -Dinhibit-libc in CFLAGS
	- make -i LANGUAGES=c
	- make -i LANGUAGES=c install

	compile glibc, with 
	prefix=/where_you_want_not_the_same_as_above
	make, make install

	go back in egcs,
	./configure --prefix=same_place_as_first_time --with-
	headers=/where_you_put_glibc/include --with-
	libs=/where_you_put_glibc/lib --target=arm-linux
	make LANGUAGES="c c++" 
	make LANGUAGES="c c++" install

	DONE

	Christophe


	> 
	> > I'm having problems building a cross compiler on solaris.
	> > When running  make, I get:
	> >
	> > checking whether the C compiler (arm-linux-gcc -g -O2 ) works...
no
	> > configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C
compiler
	> > cannot create executables.
	> > gmake: *** [configure-target-libiberty] Error 1
	> >
	> > Before I got to this stage, I had the egcs-1.1.1 source,
	> > and got 3 patch files for it that I applied consecutively:
	> >
	> > egcs-1.1.1-prerelease-2-arm-diff-981117.gz
	> > egcs-1.1.1-prerelease-2-arm-diff-981117-981124
	> > egcs-1.1.1-prerelease-2-arm-diff-981124-981125
	> >
	> > I got the following message during the final patch:
	> >
	> > patching file `gcc/f/intdoc.texi'
	> > Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected!  Assume -R? [y]
	> >
	> > I created an egcs-1.1.1-build dir, and from there ran:
	> >
	> >  ../egcs-1.1.1/configure --target=arm-linux
	> > --prefix=/home/elph/tjl/work/sw/armlinux/
	> >
	> > and then ran make.
	> >
	> > What am I doing wrong?
	> 

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>configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot
>create executables.
>make: *** [configure-target-libiberty] Error 1
>
>Note I tested 'xgcc' and seems to run ok:

Just running `xgcc' with no parameters doesn't test very much.  Try actually 
compiling a source file - "hello world" or something - and see what happens.

p.


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>Oooh.  That's useful for people who have network slot cards. 

Good thinking.  That actually hadn't occurred to me. :-)

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Phil,

I just tried running './xgcc -o hello hello.c' and it returned the following
error:

xgcc: installation problem, cannot exec `cpp': No such file or directory


Note I have the following 'cpp' files installed on my system:

/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/egcs-2.90.29/cpp
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.7.2.3/cpp
/usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/egcs-2.91.60/cpp

Any ideas?

Jason


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	From:  Philip Blundell [SMTP:pb@nexus.co.uk]
	Sent:  Tuesday, February 23, 1999 8:11 AM
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	>configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler
cannot
	>create executables.
	>make: *** [configure-target-libiberty] Error 1
	>
	>Note I tested 'xgcc' and seems to run ok:

	Just running `xgcc' with no parameters doesn't test very much.  Try
actually 
	compiling a source file - "hello world" or something - and see what
happens.

	p.
	
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>xgcc: installation problem, cannot exec `cpp': No such file or directory
>
>
>Note I have the following 'cpp' files installed on my system:
>
>/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/egcs-2.90.29/cpp
>/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.7.2.3/cpp
>/usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/egcs-2.91.60/cpp
>
>Any ideas?

You should also have a `cpp' in $PREFIX/lib/gcc-lib/arm-linux/...

Did the `make LANGUAGES=c install' that you did earlier complete successfully?

p.


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I've patched my working rmk4 with your patches, now kernel panics 
telling: couldn't get rx irq for rs285

What's wrong ?

Christophe
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Phil,

I could have sworn that I ran `make LANGUAGES=c install' successfully. I
just tried installing it again and bingo... 'cpp' is now under
'/usr/local/arm/lib/gcc-lib/arm-linux/egcs-2.91.60'.

However, I'm now having problems linking my "Hello World" application:

# ./xgcc -o hello hello.c
/usr/local/arm/arm-linux/lib/crt1.o: file not recognized: File format not
recognized 
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

Am I missing something?

Thanks,

Jason


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	Subject:  Re: HELP - Egcs 1.1.1 

	>xgcc: installation problem, cannot exec `cpp': No such file or
directory
	>
	>
	>Note I have the following 'cpp' files installed on my system:
	>
	>/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/egcs-2.90.29/cpp
	>/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.7.2.3/cpp
	>/usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/egcs-2.91.60/cpp
	>
	>Any ideas?

	You should also have a `cpp' in $PREFIX/lib/gcc-lib/arm-linux/...

	Did the `make LANGUAGES=c install' that you did earlier complete
successfully?

	p.
	
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In the last mail Russell King - ARM Linux Admin said:

> Nicholas Clark writes:
> > If I make zImage then the bootloader says something like "invalid
> > compressed data" (err=1) and then halts the system.
> 
> Hmm, sounds like the boot loader is not mapping the kernel correctly.
> 
> > If I try vmlinux (is that the uncompressed kernel, or am I daft here)
> > it just locks up.
> 
> This is the expected behaviour.

:-)

I've been told that I need to make Image so I did.
 
> > I've looked at the top of the zImage file and the first 4 bytes differ
> > between 2.2.1 and 2.0.35 but are the same between the 3 2.0.35 kernels
> > I have - has the format changed?
> 
> Ever so slightly, but I wasn't aware that old loaders couldn't load it.
> 
> > I tried downloading the bootladoer from the ARMlinux ftp site, but
> > it's dated 1997 so I don't think that'll help me.
> 
> There are later - see /pub/armlinux/testing

Got one dated 21 Feb 1999 (IIRC)

using zImage
bootloader asks about arguments to kernel (as expected)
error about "invalid compressed data" (as above)

using Image as my kernel:
bootloader asks about arguments to kernel
system locks up after I press return (no text messages as linux starts)

I've tried rebuilding with my a.out-> elf cross compiler instead of my
elf native compiler, but no change to the above.

My zImage is 540000 ish bytes long, which Russell thinks is a bit short.
I did try answering M to as many configuration questions as I could.

I'm pretty much out of inspiration as to what to do next.

Nick
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Phil,

I just ran 'make LANGUAGES="c c++"' again to attempt finishing EGCS and the
problem still persists:

checking whether the C compiler (/home/chagas/egcs/egcs-1.1.1/gcc/xgcc
-B/home/c
hagas/egcs/egcs-1.1.1/gcc/ -g -O2 ) works... no
configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot
creat
e executables.
make: *** [configure-target-libiberty] Error 1

Is there anything else I should try?

Thanks,

Jason


	----------
	From:  Chagas, Jason
	Sent:  Tuesday, February 23, 1999 9:49 AM
	To:  Chagas, Jason; 'Philip Blundell'
	Cc:  linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu
	Subject:  RE: HELP - Egcs 1.1.1 

	Phil,

	I could have sworn that I ran `make LANGUAGES=c install'
successfully. I just tried installing it again and bingo... 'cpp' is now
under '/usr/local/arm/lib/gcc-lib/arm-linux/egcs-2.91.60'.

	However, I'm now having problems linking my "Hello World"
application:

	# ./xgcc -o hello hello.c
	/usr/local/arm/arm-linux/lib/crt1.o: file not recognized: File
format not recognized 
	collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

	Am I missing something?

	Thanks,

	Jason


		----------
		From:  Philip Blundell [SMTP:pb@nexus.co.uk]
		Sent:  Tuesday, February 23, 1999 8:49 AM
		To:  Chagas, Jason
		Cc:  linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu
		Subject:  Re: HELP - Egcs 1.1.1 

		>xgcc: installation problem, cannot exec `cpp': No such file
or directory
		>
		>
		>Note I have the following 'cpp' files installed on my
system:
		>
		>/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/egcs-2.90.29/cpp
		>/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.7.2.3/cpp
		>/usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/egcs-2.91.60/cpp
		>
		>Any ideas?

		You should also have a `cpp' in
$PREFIX/lib/gcc-lib/arm-linux/...

		Did the `make LANGUAGES=c install' that you did earlier
complete successfully?

		p.
		
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># ./xgcc -o hello hello.c
>/usr/local/arm/arm-linux/lib/crt1.o: file not recognized: File format not
>recognized 
>collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
>
>Am I missing something?

Jason,

This may sound like a stupid question but are you sure the glibc that you 
installed was actually compiled for ARM?  If GCC wasn't installed properly 
it seems unlikely that building the C library would have worked.  I wonder if 
maybe you accidentally did a native build instead.

You should be able to tell easily enough by using `file' on the crt1.o in 
question.

p.


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>I just ran 'make LANGUAGES="c c++"' again to attempt finishing EGCS and the
>problem still persists:

It would do.  Until you can get `hello world' to link successfully there's not 
much point in trying EGCS.  In fact the configure script is attempting more or 
less exactly the same thing.

p.


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	At 06:49 AM 2/23/99 -0800, Chagas, Jason wrote:
>Phil,
>
>I could have sworn that I ran `make LANGUAGES=c install' successfully. I
>just tried installing it again and bingo... 'cpp' is now under
>'/usr/local/arm/lib/gcc-lib/arm-linux/egcs-2.91.60'.
>
>However, I'm now having problems linking my "Hello World" application:
>
># ./xgcc -o hello hello.c
>/usr/local/arm/arm-linux/lib/crt1.o: file not recognized: File format not
>recognized 
>collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
>
>Am I missing something?

I wonder which linker its picking up - if its decided to pick up your
x86 linker it aint going to be happy!

Do:

./xgcc -v -o hello hello.c

and it should be possible to see which linker its using.

Dave


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> 
> The Linux kernel includes full PCI setup code (BIOS if you will).
> I originally wrote it for the Alpha and it was then taken, expanded
> etc.   It is very functional, I believe that it runs/works on the ebsa-285
> at system start up.  I am assuming that this is the case 'cos I have
> another PCI based ARM system that I'm about to turn PCI on for.  Right now
> I'm at the 'loading  a RAMdisk stage'...
> 

Is it the layout_? functions in bios32.c ?
You find them in alpha and m68k arch, not in all arch, not in arm.
I'd a look at it and I think i'll try to port it to arm.

Could you please sum up how it works ? (I mean what function is 
doing what) And what I can discard as there is a lone PCI bus on
EBSA285 board

Christophe
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>Found myself:  drivers/char/in tty_io.c, you call twice rs285_init();

Doh, thanks.  I thought I'd fixed that but clearly not.

p.


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christophe leroy wrote:
> 
> >
> > The Linux kernel includes full PCI setup code (BIOS if you will).
> > I originally wrote it for the Alpha and it was then taken, expanded
> > etc.   It is very functional, I believe that it runs/works on the ebsa-285
> > at system start up.  I am assuming that this is the case 'cos I have
> > another PCI based ARM system that I'm about to turn PCI on for.  Right now
> > I'm at the 'loading  a RAMdisk stage'...
> >
> 
> Is it the layout_? functions in bios32.c ?
> You find them in alpha and m68k arch, not in all arch, not in arm.
> I'd a look at it and I think i'll try to port it to arm.
> 
> Could you please sum up how it works ? (I mean what function is
> doing what) And what I can discard as there is a lone PCI bus on
> EBSA285 board
> 
> Christophe
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I'm sure I'll be corrected if I'm wrong, but, I think the PCI bus scanning
and setup works correctly on ebsa285; the PCI subsystem has located all devices
on the bus. The problem lies in fact that some pre-OS
entity, BIOS for lack of a better term, did not allocate IO, MEM, and interupts
to the various devices. If you look at arch/arm/kernel/hw-ebsa285.c you'll see
where pcibios_fixup_ebsa285() assigns some interrupt values, maps some devices
to IO for some architectures, .....

For me, since the ebsa285 is a transitional platform, I added a hard coded
function
that assigns the IO and such; this looks like:

...
....
        /* sort out the irq mapping for this device */
        switch (machine_type) {
        case MACH_TYPE_EBSA285:
                dev->irq = ebsa_irqval(dev);
                /* Turn on bus mastering - boot loader doesn't
                 * - perhaps it should! - dag
                 */
#if 0
                pci_set_cmd(dev, 0, PCI_COMMAND_MASTER);
#else
                inet_pci_bios_fixup(dev);
#endif
                break;
...
...

The function inet_pci_bios_fixup() simply looks for the devices I know I
have (a 3com ethernet) and assigns an IO address and sets the command register.
A more elegant and generic solution will have wait.

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>>>>> "Dave" == Dave Baukus <dbaukus@inetinc.com> writes:

 Dave> I'm sure I'll be corrected if I'm wrong, but, I think the PCI
 Dave> bus scanning and setup works correctly on ebsa285; the PCI
 Dave> subsystem has located all devices on the bus. The problem lies
 Dave> in fact that some pre-OS entity, BIOS for lack of a better
 Dave> term, did not allocate IO, MEM, and interupts to the various
 Dave> devices. ...

I think the issue is that EBSA285 doesn't HAVE a BIOS.

Personally, I wonder about depending on such a notion.  There's
nothing wrong with having the OS initialization do the entire system
init from scratch.  At worst that duplicates what a "BIOS" did; at
best it's what makes things work.

	paul
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Hi.. I've the same problem..

I'm building the latest kernels on an I386 version

I've been through everything in Phil B's guide for cross compiling
(repeatedly, and with varuois different kernel releases)

I always get this invalid compressed data message

I also would dearly love to find the answer.

n.b. I'm building on i386 mainly because I cannot get an elf compiling
system to run on my armlinux rpc, (and speed...)

logic suggests I'm being silly somewhere, but whichever way I attack it, 
I cannot get further.


n.b. is there a good reason why a kernel patchad for armlinux will nolonger
compile
for i386 without error?.. surely it would be wise to put the patches in using
version switched conditionals, rather than (apparently) wholesale change.. a
merge to
the full linux tree would then take account of most (i presume) kernel
upissuing
matters...

John

On Tue, 23 Feb, Nicholas Clark  wrote:
> In the last mail Russell King - ARM Linux Admin said:
> 
> > Nicholas Clark writes:
> > > If I make zImage then the bootloader says something like "invalid
> > > compressed data" (err1) and then halts the system.
> > 
> > Hmm, sounds like the boot loader is not mapping the kernel correctly.
> > 
> > > If I try vmlinux (is that the uncompressed kernel, or am I daft here)
> > > it just locks up.
> > 
> > This is the expected behaviour.
> 
> :-)
> 
> I've been told that I need to make Image so I did.
>  
> > > I've looked at the top of the zImage file and the first 4 bytes differ
> > > between 2.2.1 and 2.0.35 but are the same between the 3 2.0.35 kernels
> > > I have - has the format changed?
> > 
> > Ever so slightly, but I wasn't aware that old loaders couldn't load it.
> > 
> > > I tried downloading the bootladoer from the ARMlinux ftp site, but
> > > it's dated 1997 so I don't think that'll help me.
> > 
> > There are later - see /pub/armlinux/testing
> 
> Got one dated 21 Feb 1999 (IIRC)
> 
> using zImage
> bootloader asks about arguments to kernel (as expected)
> error about "invalid compressed data" (as above)
> 
> using Image as my kernel:
> bootloader asks about arguments to kernel
> system locks up after I press return (no text messages as linux starts)
> 
> I've tried rebuilding with my a.out-> elf cross compiler instead of my
> elf native compiler, but no change to the above.
> 
> My zImage is 540000 ish bytes long, which Russell thinks is a bit short.
> I did try answering M to as many configuration questions as I could.
> 
> I'm pretty much out of inspiration as to what to do next.
> 
> Nick
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Christophe Leroy wrote:
> 
> I've patched my working rmk4 with your patches, now kernel panics
> telling: couldn't get rx irq for rs285
> 
> What's wrong ?
> 


Found myself:  drivers/char/in tty_io.c, you call twice rs285_init();





#ifdef CONFIG_ESPSERIAL  /* init ESP before rs, so rs doesn't see the
port */
        espserial_init();
#endif
#ifdef CONFIG_SERIAL_21285
        rs285_init();
#endif
#ifdef CONFIG_SERIAL
        rs_init();
#endif
#ifdef CONFIG_SERIAL_21285
        rs285_init();
#endif
#ifdef CONFIG_MAC_SERIAL
        macserial_init();
#endif
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John Ballance writes:
> I always get this invalid compressed data message

I'm thinking that this is a problem with the compiler or binutils.  My kernels
are OK, and if I send my kernel to someone with this problem, they have no
problems with my zImage.

> n.b. is there a good reason why a kernel patchad for armlinux will nolonger
> compile for i386 without error?

What is the error?

> surely it would be wise to put the patches in using version switched
> conditionals, rather than (apparently) wholesale change.. a merge to
> the full linux tree would then take account of most (i presume) kernel
> upissuing matters...

I take care of the patches - patching a kernel is not a one-way affair -
so long as you have the original patch around, it's easy to remove it.
conditionals would just make a mess of everything and make it unreadable.
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Paul Koning writes:
> I think the issue is that EBSA285 doesn't HAVE a BIOS.

I do have a BIOS like loader for the EBSA285, but is in dire need of a
cleanup in certain areas (which I know I must get around to).

> Personally, I wonder about depending on such a notion.  There's
> nothing wrong with having the OS initialization do the entire system
> init from scratch.  At worst that duplicates what a "BIOS" did; at
> best it's what makes things work.

The PCI initialisation is hardware specific - there is no way to know
what an EBSA285 is plugged into, and therefore I'd prefer that on this
machine the kernel did NOT initialise the PCI bus.  In fact, my current
thinking is to reduce some of the initialisation that the kernel does on
EBSA285.
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	This may sound like a stupid question but are you sure the glibc
that you 
	installed was actually compiled for ARM?  If GCC wasn't installed
properly 
	it seems unlikely that building the C library would have worked.  I
wonder if 
	maybe you accidentally did a native build instead.

	You should be able to tell easily enough by using `file' on the
crt1.o in 
	question.

	p.
	

Phil,

Yup,  'file ~/glibc-2.0.111/csu/crt1.o' returns  "crt1.o: ELF 32-bit LSB
relocatable, Intel 80386, version 1, not stripped". The files under
'/usr/local/arm/arm-linux/lib/crt1.o' and
'/usr/local/arm/glibc/arm-linux-glibc/lib/crt1.o' are also for 'x86'.  On
the other hand, 'file hello.o' returns "hello.o: ELF 32-bit LSB relocatable,
version 1, not stripped". It says nothing about 'x86' so I take it is an ARM
type.

I wonder why it generated X86 binaries when I specified the target as
'arm-linux':

"./configure --target=arm-linux
--prefix=/usr/local/arm/glibc/arm-linux-glibc -enable-add-ons"


How can I fix the problem? Any ideas?


Jason


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	# ./xgcc -o hello hello.c
	>/usr/local/arm/arm-linux/lib/crt1.o: file not recognized: File
format not
	>recognized 
	>collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
	>
	>Am I missing something?

	I wonder which linker its picking up - if its decided to pick up
your
	x86 linker it aint going to be happy!

	Do:

	./xgcc -v -o hello hello.c

	and it should be possible to see which linker its using.

	Dave
	


Dave,

It seems to use the appropriate linker. See the attached output with the
'-v' switch:

# ./xgcc -v -o hello hello.c
Reading specs from /usr/local/arm/lib/gcc-lib/arm-linux/egcs-2.91.60/specs
gcc version egcs-2.91.60 19990113/philb (egcs-1.1.1 release)
 /usr/local/arm/lib/gcc-lib/arm-linux/egcs-2.91.60/cpp -lang-c -v -undef
-D__GNUC__=2 -D__GNUC_MINOR__=91 -Dunix -Darm -Dlinux -D__ELF__ -D__unix__
-D__arm__ -D__linux__ -D__ELF__ -D__unix -D__arm -D__linux -Asystem(unix)
-Asystem(posix) -Acpu(arm) -Amachine(arm) -D__CHAR_UNSIGNED__
-D__ARM_ARCH_3__ -D__APCS_32__ hello.c /tmp/ccBXBmYQ.i
GNU CPP version egcs-2.91.60 19990113/philb (egcs-1.1.1 release) (ARM
GNU/Linux with ELF)
#include "..." search starts here:
#include <...> search starts here:
 /usr/local/arm/lib/gcc-lib/arm-linux/egcs-2.91.60/include
 /usr/local/arm/arm-linux/sys-include
 /usr/local/arm/arm-linux/include
End of search list.
 /usr/local/arm/lib/gcc-lib/arm-linux/egcs-2.91.60/cc1 /tmp/ccBXBmYQ.i
-quiet -dumpbase hello.c -version -o /tmp/cciNi6kN.s
GNU C version egcs-2.91.60 19990113/philb (egcs-1.1.1 release) (arm-linux)
compiled by GNU C version egcs-2.91.60 19990113/philb (egcs-1.1.1 release).
 /usr/local/arm/arm-linux/bin/as -o /tmp/ccP5atNL.o /tmp/cciNi6kN.s
 /usr/local/arm/lib/gcc-lib/arm-linux/egcs-2.91.60/collect2 -dynamic-linker
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 -X -m elf32arm -o hello
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/usr/local/arm/lib/gcc-lib/arm-linux/egcs-2.91.60/crtbegin.o
-L/usr/local/arm/lib/gcc-lib/arm-linux/egcs-2.91.60
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/usr/local/arm/lib/gcc-lib/arm-linux/egcs-2.91.60/crtend.o
/usr/local/arm/arm-linux/lib/crtn.o
/usr/local/arm/arm-linux/lib/crt1.o: file not recognized: File format not
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On Tue, 23 Feb, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin  wrote:
> John Ballance writes:
> > I always get this invalid compressed data message
> 
> I'm thinking that this is a problem with the compiler or binutils.  My
> kernels
are OK, and if I send my kernel to someone with this problem, they have no
> problems with my zImage.

indeed.. but what??.. i've built egcs1.1 and binutils 2.9.0.15 (or whatever),

as pointed to by phil b.. compiled as suggested.. no go


> 
> > n.b. is there a good reason why a kernel patchad for armlinux will
> nolonger
> compile for i386 without error?
> 
> What is the error?

do I understand that this means you have to 'unpatch' a tree before
compiling i386?.. if so mea culpa

I had 'naively' assumed that I could just reconfigure the tree to or from arm
and
recompile (make menuconfig...)

> 
> > surely it would be wise to put the patches in using version switched
> > conditionals, rather than (apparently) wholesale change.. a merge to
> > the full linux tree would then take account of most (i presume) kernel
> > upissuing matters...
> 
> I take care of the patches - patching a kernel is not a one-way affair -
> so long as you have the original patch around, it's easy to remove it.
> conditionals would just make a mess of everything and make it unreadable.
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>I wonder why it generated X86 binaries when I specified the target as
>'arm-linux':
>
>"./configure --target=arm-linux
>--prefix=/usr/local/arm/glibc/arm-linux-glibc -enable-add-ons"

Hi Jason,

You need to tell it which compiler to use as well.  Otherwise it defaults to 
`gcc' which is of course the native compiler.

Also, `--target' is meaningless for glibc because it's not a compiler tool.  
Configure was probably ignoring that option and again defaulting to a native 
build.

Try something like this, assuming `arm-linux-gcc' is in your PATH:

$ CC=arm-linux-gcc ./configure arm-linux --enable-add-ons --prefix=whatever

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>the other hand, 'file hello.o' returns "hello.o: ELF 32-bit LSB relocatable,
>version 1, not stripped". It says nothing about 'x86' so I take it is an ARM
>type.

Yes; your `file' probably doesn't understand about ARM binaries.  It's not 
hard to fix, just add an appropriate entry to your magic numbers file.  I 
imagine it already has something like this:

0       string          \177ELF         ELF                                     
[...]
>>18    leshort         0               no machine,                             
>>18    leshort         1               AT&T WE32100 - invalid byte order,      
>>18    leshort         2               SPARC - invalid byte order,             
>>18    leshort         3               Intel 80386,                            

etc; the line you need to add is:

>>18    leshort         40              ARM,

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At 04:32 PM 2/23/99 +0000, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote:
>Paul Koning writes:
>> I think the issue is that EBSA285 doesn't HAVE a BIOS.
>
>I do have a BIOS like loader for the EBSA285, but is in dire need of a
>cleanup in certain areas (which I know I must get around to).
>
>> Personally, I wonder about depending on such a notion.  There's
>> nothing wrong with having the OS initialization do the entire system
>> init from scratch.  At worst that duplicates what a "BIOS" did; at
>> best it's what makes things work.
>
>The PCI initialisation is hardware specific - there is no way to know
>what an EBSA285 is plugged into, and therefore I'd prefer that on this
>machine the kernel did NOT initialise the PCI bus.  In fact, my current
>thinking is to reduce some of the initialisation that the kernel does on
>EBSA285.
>

The EBSA-285 is even more complicated than normal as it can run either
as an intelligent device or as the host bridge.  Host bridge is the standard
Intel PCI based system case.

There are two parts to the PCI initialisation.  The (standard) kernel
uses BIOS callbacks to discover the PCI topology (what devices on 
what buses using which addresses in what PCI spaces).  In the Alpha/MIPs
cases, there is system specific code that carries out the init functions
normally carried out by Intel BIOS.  It's a bit generalised but it
has to be system specific 'cos how PCI land is accessed and how interrupts
are routed is system specific.  That's handled by arch/alpha/kernel/bios32.c.
The generic code is in drivers/pci/pci.c and is the same across architectures.
I seem to remember 2.2.1 giving you the ability to completely re-init the
PCI subsystem though.

As for whether or not this code should be in the kernel is an interesting
question.  If it is not, then where does it go?  How does the kernel
figure out the PCI topology?   You could have a bootloader/console that
inits the PCI and hands off the PCI topology information to the kernel.
Given that the PCI system has been configured, the kernel could figure out
the topology itself (via configuration cycles) in a system independent
way.  

Without a console, you have to assume that the kernel has to do all of 
the work.   Most ARM systems do not have consoles.  In the Alpha case,
the Miniloader (MILO) uses the kernel PCI setup code and the kernel then
re-inits the PCI subsystem (a little sordid, but it works).

Dave
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>I'm thinking that this is a problem with the compiler or binutils.

It's possible.  You could try reducing the optimisation to -O (in linux/
Makefile) and see if that makes things work any better.  If you're using 
anything other than binutils 2.9.1.0.19a and the latest egcs-1.1.1 it would be 
worth upgrading.

FWIW, I build all my A5000 kernels with these tools and haven't had a problem.

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>As for whether or not this code should be in the kernel is an interesting
>question.  If it is not, then where does it go?  How does the kernel
>figure out the PCI topology?   You could have a bootloader/console that

I'd like to see it go in the kernel at least as an option.  With the exception 
of interrupt routing, the kernel can do as good a job of the PCI configuration 
as the console could.  On platforms where the interrupt lines are fixed 
(NetWinder and CATS for example, but not EBSA-285) it can do everything.

Also, experience shows that we tend to end up having code in the kernel to go 
through and fix up things that the console didn't do the way we wanted them in 
any case.  We might as well not bother and just let the kernel do the whole 
lot in the first place.

p.


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Subject: Re: bootloading 2.2.1 kernel from RISC OS
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John Ballance writes:
> indeed.. but what??.. i've built egcs1.1 and binutils 2.9.0.15 (or whatever),
> 
> as pointed to by phil b.. compiled as suggested.. no go

I have no idea - all that I can say about the problem is that the uncompressor
does not think that the gzip'ed kernel image is valid for one reason or another.
Someone with this problem will have to investigate why this is.  As far as I am
concerned (my concern is the kernel at the moment), the problem is not the
kernel, nor the kernel source.

> > What is the error?
> do I understand that this means you have to 'unpatch' a tree before
> compiling i386?.. if so mea culpa

No!  That's not the way it works.  The kernel has been designed to allow all
these architectures to exist without resorting to #ifdefs.  GCC/EGCS has the
idea of inline functions - these are used heavily by the kernel.  There is
actually a lot of inlined code in the include files, both in include/asm-*
and include/linux.

For instance, the page table manipulation as far as the 'normal' kernel code
is concerned is a three-level affair.  However, defining the correct constants
and inline functions you can collapse this down to a single level if you so wish
without modifing or replacing the existing code.

Again, what is the error?

> I had 'naively' assumed that I could just reconfigure the tree to or from arm
> and recompile (make menuconfig...)

If you want to recompile my sources for x86, all you have to do is to:
1. make clean
2. change the ARCH := line in the top level make file and CROSS_COMPILE
3. make config
4. make dep
5. make clean
6. make zImage or make bzImage


PS, your mailer appears to be getting CC: lines to multiple people wrong.
This is what I'm seeing:

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Since this is invalid (containing a '.' between the addresses), I have to
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Subject: Re: EBSA285 and PCI
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david.rusling@arm.com writes:
> The EBSA-285 is even more complicated than normal as it can run either
> as an intelligent device or as the host bridge.  Host bridge is the standard
> Intel PCI based system case.

Indeed.  There are two different 'architectures' in the kernel (one is sitting
in my incoming patches and is available from Mark van Doesburg) which is the
'intelligent device' mode, and the EBSA285 case which is the stuff thats presently
in my kernels.

> There are two parts to the PCI initialisation.  The (standard) kernel
> uses BIOS callbacks to discover the PCI topology (what devices on 
> what buses using which addresses in what PCI spaces).  In the Alpha/MIPs
> cases, there is system specific code that carries out the init functions
> normally carried out by Intel BIOS.  It's a bit generalised but it
> has to be system specific 'cos how PCI land is accessed and how interrupts
> are routed is system specific.  That's handled by arch/alpha/kernel/bios32.c.
> The generic code is in drivers/pci/pci.c and is the same across architectures.
> I seem to remember 2.2.1 giving you the ability to completely re-init the
> PCI subsystem though.

Indeed, and we make use if that exactly how the other architectures do.
However, when the EBSA285 is being used as a host bridge, it is responsible
for initialising the system and such like.

I'm not over thrilled by the idea of programming the kernel into flash -
this to me is too limited.  A better solution would be to have a BIOS-like
loader (MILO or whatever) that pulls the kernel off of whatever medium it
is stored on.  This is exactly the point behind my BIOS - to be generic.

> As for whether or not this code should be in the kernel is an interesting
> question.  If it is not, then where does it go?  How does the kernel
> figure out the PCI topology?   You could have a bootloader/console that
> inits the PCI and hands off the PCI topology information to the kernel.
> Given that the PCI system has been configured, the kernel could figure out
> the topology itself (via configuration cycles) in a system independent
> way.  

Indeed.

> Without a console, you have to assume that the kernel has to do all of 
> the work.   Most ARM systems do not have consoles.  In the Alpha case,
> the Miniloader (MILO) uses the kernel PCI setup code and the kernel then
> re-inits the PCI subsystem (a little sordid, but it works).

Not necessarily - you still need to get the kernel from somewhere.  If you
have a small BIOS programmed into the flash, then that can give you so
many more options than a kernel could ever give you.  The BIOS could even
load the kernel from flash if you wanted it to.

I'm not talking here about replacing the EBSA angel loader btw, I'm talking
about supplementing it with a Linux Loader.

Now that 2.2's in the making, things were quietening down (until Linus
released 2.2.2 today), and I was going to clean up the last few bits in
my BIOS to get it out there...  There are loads of improvements that could
be made to it as it stands though.
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Subject: Re: EBSA285 and PCI
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Philip Blundell writes:
> as the console could.  On platforms where the interrupt lines are fixed 
> (NetWinder and CATS for example, but not EBSA-285) it can do everything.

Indeed - totally embedded machines like the NetWinder it is a good idea
since you know 100% what you're dealing with.  However, when talking about
a plug in card, I'd rather not have 50 different initialisation themes in
the kernel.

> Also, experience shows that we tend to end up having code in the kernel to go 
> through and fix up things that the console didn't do the way we wanted them in 
> any case.  We might as well not bother and just let the kernel do the whole 
> lot in the first place.

I have two points here:

1. the kernel cannot possibly know the way the bus needs to be set up
   in every case. 

2. a freebios could set up the PCI bus how we wanted it in the first place,
   while releaving the kernel of the task of knowing system X, Y and Z's
   peculiarities.
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	You need to tell it which compiler to use as well.  Otherwise it
defaults to 
	`gcc' which is of course the native compiler.

	Also, `--target' is meaningless for glibc because it's not a
compiler tool.  
	Configure was probably ignoring that option and again defaulting to
a native 
	build.

	Try something like this, assuming `arm-linux-gcc' is in your PATH:

	$ CC=arm-linux-gcc ./configure arm-linux --enable-add-ons
--prefix=whatever
	

Phil,

I ran ...

# CC=arm-linux-gcc ./configure arm-linux --build=i686-pc-linux-gnu
--prefix=/usr/local/arm/glibc/arm-linux-glibc -enable-add-ons


and it gave me this error...

checking installed Linux kernel header files... TOO OLD!
configure: error: GNU libc requires kernel header files from
Linux 2.0.10 or later to be installed before configuring.
The kernel header files are found usually in /usr/include/asm and
/usr/include/linux; make sure these directories use files from
Linux 2.0.10 or later.  This check uses <linux/version.h>, so
make sure that file was built correctly when installing the kernel header
files.  To use kernel headers not from /usr/include/linux, use the
configure option --with-headers.


So I searched for 'version.h' ...


[/]# find . -name "version.h" -type f
./home/chagas/egcs/egcs-1.1.1/gcc/f/version.h
./home/chagas/glibc/glibc-2.0.111/version.h
./home/chagas/linux-2.2.0/linux/arch/i386/math-emu/version.h
./usr/src/linux-2.0.36/include/linux/version.h


and ran ...

# CC=arm-linux-gcc ./configure arm-linux --build=i
686-pc-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr/local/arm/glibc/arm-linux-glibc
-enable-add-ons --with-headers=/usr/src/linux-2.0.36/include


This time I got this error...


include -isystem /usr/src/linux-2.0.36/include -D_LIBC_REENTRANT -include
../inc
lude/libc-symbols.h     -DASSEMBLER   -o syscall.o
../sysdeps/unix/syscall.S: Assembler messages:
../sysdeps/unix/syscall.S:28: Error: Can not represent SWI relocation in
this ob
ject file format (0)
make[1]: *** [syscall.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/chagas/glibc/glibc-2.0.111/misc'
make: *** [misc/subdir_lib] Error 2


Which leads me to believe I have the wrong headers... Is that that case?
Where should I get the headers from?

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Jason

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>and ran ...
>
># CC=arm-linux-gcc ./configure arm-linux --build=i
>686-pc-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr/local/arm/glibc/arm-linux-glibc
>-enable-add-ons --with-headers=/usr/src/linux-2.0.36/include

Jason,

A similar problem again I think.  It matters which architecture the kernel 
is configured for, and it looks like this is an i586 kernel source tree.  In 
fact the i386 and ARM headers and APIs are similar enough that the compilation 
would very nearly have worked.  Fortunately the i386 does indirect syscalls 
rather differently.

The version.h file is only created during the kernel compile process.  You 
need to at least do `make config' to generate it.  Get hold of an ARM kernel 
source tree, check that ARCH is set to `arm' in the makefile, configure the 
kernel and then point the glibc compile at it.  If you put symlinks to the 
kernel source tree in $PREFIX/include/{asm,linux} you can do without the 
--with-headers option.

If that really was an ARM kernel source tree then I guess the problem must be 
somewhere else.

BTW, I noticed you're using glibc-2.0.111.  I have a feeling that version was 
rather buggy.  To save more grief in the future you might like to get the 
official 2.1 release from ftp://sourceware.cygnus.com/pub/glibc/ and try your 
luck with that instead.

p.


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On Fri, Dec 18, 1998 at 05:28:46PM +0000, Phil Norman wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 18, 1998 at 03:01:33PM +0000, John Ballance wrote:
> > Hi
> > 
> > its actually the EtherI, from Irlam
> > 
> > it differs from others as the NC does not support MEMC addressing (or 
> > I believe PS addressing). All access is made usinf EasiSpace addressing.. 
> > something the netbsd port probably does not currently do...
> 
> It depends on the NC.  Some have EtherN cards, some EtherI, and some have
> other bizarre cards.  But yes, I've heard from another source too that
> the main barrier to porting linux-arm is the ethernet card.

I think most shipped with the EtherN cards. AFAIR, they are based on an
NE2000 clone. The chip itself has its address lines moved up by 4 lines
for multiple load/stores to the data port.

PS, try doing a port for the etherc... the most strange ethernet card
around (and i'm the only one with one, so ner!)

-- 
Ben (ben@fluff.org, http://www.fluff.org/)

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Jason, Phil,


Thanks for your input so far. I am coming up against many
of the hurdles Jason faced.

I currently have a problem compiling glibc2.1 in relation to
headers. I'll go into that in a moment.

First, I want to make absolutely sure that I AM configuring for
the right target. - I am trying to get a compiled linux kernel onto
the EBSA-285. After that I'll have to compile stuff to run on the
kernel.

Now, for the first pass (to get a kernel onto the board) is arm-linux
the correct target?

(I am confused about the arm-elf and other targets for standalone boards

- why aren't I using the stand alone board target?)

OK assuming that arm-linux is the right target, and I am cross
compiling on a solaris machine, then why do you recommend
the --build=i586-linux switch for configure on the web page at:

http://www.tazenda.demon.co.uk/phil/arm-tools.html

The dialog there says it is necessary, but it can be anything so long
as it is different to the host system type.

(I also noticed in one of the recent emails that you told Jason to use:
CC=arm-linux-gcc ./configure arm-linux --enable-add-ons
--prefix=whatever
So is the build switch actually unnecessary?)

I actually followed the latter route:
CC=arm-linux-gcc ../glibc-2.1/configure arm-linux
--prefix=/home/elph/tjl/work/sw --enable-add-ons

and came up against the header problem. ->

Now, I have a linux 2.1.126 tree (as the whole point of this exercise is
to be able to build
this kernel), so I edited the configure line:
CC=arm-linux-gcc ../glibc-2.1/configure arm-linux
--prefix=/home/elph/tjl/work/sw --enable-add-ons
--with-headers=/home/elph/tjl/work/sw/armlinux/linux/include

and got this error:
*** You should not compile the GNU libc without the `linuxthreads' and
*** `crypt' add-on.  Not using them risks to be incompatible with the
*** libraries of other systems.  Consider getting the add-ons and
restart
*** the configuration.
*** If you really mean to avoid those add-ons run configure again, now
*** using the extra parameter `--disable-sanity-checks'.

DO I REALLY NEED THESE?? I don't want to have to blast away glibc2.1 and

get the crypt package. I tried the --disable-sanity-checks switch and
got:

*** WARNING: Are you sure you do not want to use the `linuxthreads'
*** and `crypt' add-ons?
checking for symlinks in /home/elph/tjl/work/sw//include...
../glibc-2.1/configure: test: argument expected

Where to from here????

Thanks






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Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote:
> 
> Philip Blundell writes:
> > as the console could.  On platforms where the interrupt lines are fixed
> > (NetWinder and CATS for example, but not EBSA-285) it can do everything.
> 
> Indeed - totally embedded machines like the NetWinder it is a good idea
> since you know 100% what you're dealing with.  However, when talking about
> a plug in card, I'd rather not have 50 different initialisation themes in
> the kernel.
> 
> > Also, experience shows that we tend to end up having code in the kernel to go
> > through and fix up things that the console didn't do the way we wanted them in
> > any case.  We might as well not bother and just let the kernel do the whole
> > lot in the first place.
> 
> I have two points here:
> 
> 1. the kernel cannot possibly know the way the bus needs to be set up
>    in every case.
> 

Well, err, yes it can.   The Alpha/MIPs cases work on a huge variety of
systems.  The kernel can know as well as a BIOS how to set up a PCI subsystem.

> 2. a freebios could set up the PCI bus how we wanted it in the first place,
>    while releaving the kernel of the task of knowing system X, Y and Z's
>    peculiarities.

In this case, so long as you implement the PCI BIOS bits - these include
query callbacks to discover the PCI topology - then this is a perfectly
valid approach.  Its advantage would be that the kernels could remain
(or become) generic.   Of course, you'd still have to port the BIOS but that
couldn't be harder than porting a kernel.

I'm not saying that this is the right approach, but for MILO I embedded real
Linux device drivers into an environment that was a cut-down Linux kernel.
The advantage was the enormous set of device drivers, the disadvantage was
the need to have the code in the kernel in the first place.  If your BIOS
can be simpler then all to the good.  Have you seen uHAL?

Dave


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Hello.

I'm sorry if this is the wrong place to ask but I know of no other.

Has anybody managed to get printing on ARM Linux to work?
Since I have a PostScript printer this should be an easy task.
The device seams to work, if I do a

	cat file.ps > /dev/lp2

the printer gets out the page correctly. However a

	lpr file.ps

queues and spools the file correctly. Something then is sent to
the printer but the printer simply ignores it.
I checked that the spooled files is the same as the input file,
(the filter is not touching it) so I'm assuming that lpd is doing
something strange.

Is there a way to monitor what lpd is really transfering to the printer?

(I'm running a 2.0.35 kernel an a StrongARM Risc PC if that's
of any interest).

Thanks for your help.

Thomas

PS. You guys do a great job - thanks for bringing Linux to the ARM world.


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>Has anybody managed to get printing on ARM Linux to work?

Have you read the Printing-HOWTO?  This doesn't sound like an ARM specific 
problem.

p.


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Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote:
> 
> Philip Blundell writes:
> > as the console could.  On platforms where the interrupt lines are fixed
> > (NetWinder and CATS for example, but not EBSA-285) it can do everything.
> 
> Indeed - totally embedded machines like the NetWinder it is a good idea
> since you know 100% what you're dealing with.  However, when talking about
> a plug in card, I'd rather not have 50 different initialisation themes in
> the kernel.
> 
> > Also, experience shows that we tend to end up having code in the kernel to go
> > through and fix up things that the console didn't do the way we wanted them in
> > any case.  We might as well not bother and just let the kernel do the whole
> > lot in the first place.
> 
> I have two points here:
> 
> 1. the kernel cannot possibly know the way the bus needs to be set up
>    in every case.
> 
> 2. a freebios could set up the PCI bus how we wanted it in the first place,
>    while releaving the kernel of the task of knowing system X, Y and Z's
>    peculiarities.


As far as I understand PCI, it seems that only IRQs are
backplane-specific. The other things are common to all PCI
implementations.
So I agree that we shouldn't do specific stuff in kernel,
so we could simply tell the kernel how card is wired and let it do
the remaining.

Only specific inits should be done in a mini bios. 

And couldn't we detect IRQ used by a PCI card, just like the  
detect them with ISA cards ?

Christophe
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> >Has anybody managed to get printing on ARM Linux to work?
> 
> Have you read the Printing-HOWTO?  This doesn't sound like an 
> ARM specific 
> problem.
> 
> p.

Well, yes I did. That was basically my starting point. Meanwhile
I read a lot of other docs. As far as I can tell it should work
- but it don't :(
Any other ideas?
Thanks much anyway.
Thomas
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>As far as I understand PCI, it seems that only IRQs are
>backplane-specific. The other things are common to all PCI
>implementations.
>So I agree that we shouldn't do specific stuff in kernel,
>so we could simply tell the kernel how card is wired and let it do
>the remaining.
>
>Only specific inits should be done in a mini bios. 
>
>And couldn't we detect IRQ used by a PCI card, just like the  
>detect them with ISA cards ?
>

Err, no.   ISA IRQs are hardwired, unless you use plug and pray
where you tickle the card and see what wiggles (roughly speaking).
PCI IRQs relate to which pin on the device is used for interrupts,
which slot the PCI card is plugged into and which bus the slot is
attached to.   Interrupts are routed to an interrupt controller 
(eventually).  How those interrupts are routed is system/board
specific (slot 5, Pin A on bus 0 -> IRQ N).   Interrupts routed
through PCI-PCI bridges are twizzled (A->B, B->C, C->D, D->A).
The BIOS undestands this board specific interrupt routing and
writes the IRQ number into the PCI config header for the device.
It is read from there by the device driver and handed to the kernel
in request_irq().  The kernel's (board specific) interrupt handler
figures out which IRQ went ping and turns it into a number that 
matches the one that the BIOS wrote.  It's a symbiotic relationship.

Dave

ps I wrote how this works in my LDP book 'The Linux Kernel', 
chapter 6.

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I've been following the instruction's on pb's `tazenda' web pages
about building a cross-compiler for my Linux/i386 machine.

I tried out downloading the later binutils-...-19a, and found that
patch just claimed the patches on vger for 15 had almost exclusively
already been applied.

So, I assumed those patches had gone into the tree, and started off
my build based on a vanilla 19a.  It appeared to work.  Anything I
should know..?

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I spoke too soon; I tried downloading egcs 1.1.1, applied all the
egcs 1.1b patches in order, and found the only problem to be:

    Patching file gcc/f/intdoc.texi using Plan A...
    Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected!  Assume -R? [y] n
    Apply anyway? [n] n
    Hunk #1 ignored at 4896.
    Hunk #2 ignored at 5454.
    Hunk #3 ignored at 5488.
    3 out of 3 hunks ignored--saving rejects to gcc/f/intdoc.texi.rej
    done
    «inkvine» /usr/src/egcs-1.1.1 find . -name '*.rej'
    ./gcc/f/intdoc.texi.rej

...which I assume suggests egcs is fine as well? :)  Sorry for
not having the foresight to actually try this bit before writing
the earlier message...

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> I've been following the instruction's on pb's `tazenda' web pages
                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Oh, jeezus, guilty on one chronic count of illiteracy.  I'm 
not stupid everyone, honest... :)

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>Now, for the first pass (to get a kernel onto the board) is arm-linux
>the correct target?

Yes.

>(I am confused about the arm-elf and other targets for standalone boards
>- why aren't I using the stand alone board target?)

`Stand alone' in this context implies no operating system.  It would probably 
work to compile the kernel itself with an arm-elf compiler in fact but you 
need arm-linux for user space things.  Also, the arm-elf support in the Linux 
versions of egcs is in a somewhat indeterminate state so I don't suggest you 
use it.

>OK assuming that arm-linux is the right target, and I am cross
>compiling on a solaris machine, then why do you recommend
>the --build=i586-linux switch for configure on the web page at:
>[...]
>The dialog there says it is necessary, but it can be anything so long
>as it is different to the host system type.
>
>(I also noticed in one of the recent emails that you told Jason to use:
>CC=arm-linux-gcc ./configure arm-linux --enable-add-ons
>--prefix=whatever
>So is the build switch actually unnecessary?)

I think the --build switch is certainly less necessary these days than it used 
to be.  Maybe you can get away without it altogether.  In that email to Jason 
I just forgot about it.

As you mention above, all that matters is that --build is different from the 
host.  Some parts of the configure system use this to determine whether 
they're cross-compiling or not.

>*** You should not compile the GNU libc without the `linuxthreads' and
>*** `crypt' add-on.  Not using them risks to be incompatible with the
>
>DO I REALLY NEED THESE??

Yes.  I think linuxthreads at least is pretty non-negotiable.  You can 
probably make do without crypt but I don't recommend it.

>I don't want to have to blast away glibc2.1 and
>get the crypt package. I tried the --disable-sanity-checks switch and
>got:

Just download crypt and linuxthreads and unpack them according to the 
instructions.  I don't follow what you're saying about `blasting away 
glibc2.1'.  What's the big deal?

p.


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>So, I assumed those patches had gone into the tree, and started off
>my build based on a vanilla 19a.  It appeared to work.  Anything I
>should know..?

That's right.  I actually updated my web pages yesterday evening to reflect 
this.  Binutils 2.9.1.0.19a contains all the ARM patches already.

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>I spoke too soon; I tried downloading egcs 1.1.1, applied all the
>egcs 1.1b patches in order, and found the only problem to be:

There are actually some newer patches for egcs 1.1.1 now.  Look in 
ftp.netwinder.org:/users/p/philb.  The ones on vger are out of date; I 
probably ought to delete them to avoid confusion.

p.



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Hi

thanks to those who replied.. and for the included file, which works...

its nowhere on the distribution I got.. though 

Again.. thanks

John

On Mon, 22 Feb, John Ballance  wrote:
> Hi
> 
> Has anyone got a working PCNFSD for redhat linux on I386?.. if so
> where could I get a copy?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> John

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>With philb kernels, It doesn't crash but it ALWAYS defines
>CONFIG_MSDOS_FS and CONFIG_VFAT_FS, even when CONFIG_FAT_FS is unset

Does it define them to M or Y?  If the former I suspect this is because 
menuconfig has a different idea about dep_tristate to the other config 
systems, and they need wrapping in a 'if [ $CONFIG_FAT_FS != "n" ]' type 
construct.

If the latter I've no idea.

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>And couldn't we detect IRQ used by a PCI card, just like the  
>detect them with ISA cards ?

Not really.  PCI allows shared IRQs which rather knocks on the head any hope 
of being able to reliably probe for them.  Autoprobing IRQs never worked 
properly for ISA systems anyway and one of the advantages of PCI is that it 
provides a way to avoid this.  Going back to relying on autoprobe would 
definitely be a retrograde step.

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With rmk kernels, make menuconfig crashes when you enter Filesystem
Menu.
With philb kernels, It doesn't crash but it ALWAYS defines
CONFIG_MSDOS_FS and CONFIG_VFAT_FS, even when CONFIG_FAT_FS is unset

Christophe
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Philip Blundell wrote:
> 
> >With philb kernels, It doesn't crash but it ALWAYS defines
> >CONFIG_MSDOS_FS and CONFIG_VFAT_FS, even when CONFIG_FAT_FS is unset
> 
> Does it define them to M or Y?  If the former I suspect this is because
> menuconfig has a different idea about dep_tristate to the other config
> systems, and they need wrapping in a 'if [ $CONFIG_FAT_FS != "n" ]' type
> construct.
> 
> If the latter I've no idea.
> 
> p.

#
# Filesystems
#
# CONFIG_QUOTA is not set
# CONFIG_AUTOFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_ADFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_AFFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_HFS_FS is not set
# CONFIG_FAT_FS is not set
CONFIG_MSDOS_FS=y
# CONFIG_UMSDOS_FS is not set
CONFIG_VFAT_FS=y
# CONFIG_ISO9660_FS is not set

And we can't say that it is because FAT_FS has just been turned off
Before entering menuconfig Filesystem submenu, it was not set,
And I've just entered and exited Filesystem submenu, not played with
FAT_FS

christophe
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christophe leroy said:
> With rmk kernels, make menuconfig crashes when you enter Filesystem
> Menu.

I've fixed this in 2.2.2 (which should be out shortly).

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David A Rusling said:
> Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote:
> > 1. the kernel cannot possibly know the way the bus needs to be set up
> >    in every case.
> 
> Well, err, yes it can.   The Alpha/MIPs cases work on a huge variety of
> systems.  The kernel can know as well as a BIOS how to set up a PCI
> subsystem.

There are currently two implementations of the PCI interrupt fixup in the
kernel as it stands - one for EBSA285 in an EBSA285 backplane, and the other
for the CATS boards.  The CATS boards do not use the PCI pin designation
as far as I know, so the two are not mixed.

However, if you have an EBSA285 card plugged into joe bloggs backplane,
how do you discover how it's got the interrupt pins mapped?  You shouldn't
autoprobe the IRQs (since PCI isn't supposed to be autoprobed), and there's
nothing you can read to find out about the backplane.

> > 2. a freebios could set up the PCI bus how we wanted it in the first
> >    place, while releaving the kernel of the task of knowing system X,
> >    Y and Z's peculiarities.
> 
> In this case, so long as you implement the PCI BIOS bits - these include
> query callbacks to discover the PCI topology - then this is a perfectly
> valid approach.  Its advantage would be that the kernels could remain
> (or become) generic.   Of course, you'd still have to port the BIOS but that
> couldn't be harder than porting a kernel.

The PCI BIOS bits are already and have been implemented from the very
start.  There is no 'so long as' here - it's an always has been.

> I'm not saying that this is the right approach, but for MILO I embedded
> real Linux device drivers into an environment that was a cut-down Linux
> kernel.  The advantage was the enormous set of device drivers, the
> disadvantage was the need to have the code in the kernel in the first
> place.  If your BIOS can be simpler then all to the good.

The bios can be simpler, and does not actually require the complexities of
interrupts, process management etc operation at all.  In fact, it's probably
better because you could start with a core that is known stable, and get on
with the real job of porting the kernel rather than having to find ways of
loading kernels onto the EBSA285 board.

> Have you seen uHAL?

Yes.

PS, Am I right in saying that the Angel initialisation code does not probe
for the size of the SDRAMs?  I didn't notice any change in the setup of the
SDRAMs when I change the SDRAMs fitted.

--
Russell King (rmk@milldev.demon.co.uk)
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>The CATS boards do not use the PCI pin designation
>as far as I know,

As far as the kernel's concerned, yes that's right.

p.


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I'm trying to cross-compile the 2.2.1-rmk4-Kernel for a Digital DNARD
(which uses the EBSA110-Board, as far as I know) on a 386/Linux-box.

Binutils/EGCS went all fine with the description from Tim Lindquist last
Friday on the list. 

The kernel compiles fine, but gets a long list of unresolved sym's during 
linking. 

Something like this:
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
init/main.o(.data.init+0x2c): undefined reference to `kbd_reset_setup'
drivers/char/char.a(tty_io.o): In function `tty_open':
tty_io.o(.text+0x1cf8): undefined reference to `fg_console'
drivers/char/char.a(tty_io.o): In function `tty_ioctl':
tty_io.o(.text+0x2ffc): undefined reference to `tioclinux'
tty_io.o(.text+0x2ffc): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 tioclinux
drivers/char/char.a(tty_io.o): In function `console_init':
tty_io.o(.text.init+0x7c): undefined reference to `con_init'
tty_io.o(.text.init+0x7c): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 con_init
drivers/char/char.a(tty_io.o): In function `tty_init':
tty_io.o(.text.init+0x228): undefined reference to `kbd_init'
tty_io.o(.text.init+0x228): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24
kbd_init
drivers/char/char.a(vc_screen.o): In function `vcs_size':
vc_screen.o(.text+0x28): undefined reference to `fg_console'
vc_screen.o(.text+0x34): undefined reference to `vc_cons_allocated'
vc_screen.o(.text+0x34): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24
vc_cons_allocated
vc_screen.o(.text+0x70): undefined reference to `vc_cons'
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
It goes on like that for another one or two pages...

I tried to fiddle around with some of the Make- and c-files, but it
wouldn't help...

Is there an easy solution to this problem??

Thanks
	Nicky

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>But, as far as I remember, mmap is not synchronous. So
>if you write 0x40404040, then your word at the same location, it
>doesn't mean that it will be really written on the flash,
>so you can't program like that.

If you mmap() the flash, it literally means that the flash device will be 
mapped into your address space.  Since it's mapped uncached writes will go 
straight through.

>Why not doing a write function ? Even if there is one
>for NETWINDER, one for CATS and one for EBSA285 

The reason for not putting a flash write function in initially was that it 
depends too much on the particular flash chip.  Every device has a different 
programming algorithm.

For EBSA-285 and other machines with 32-bit flash you can just mmap 
/dev/flash and program it that way (though mmap'ing /dev/mem at the right 
offset would do just as well).  The problem is that if your flash is only 8 
or 16 bits wide you need to do additional messing with the Footbridge to get 
the data to turn up in the right place.

The way I was most recently planning to do it was to provide a primitive 
write() that just sends bytes to the flash doing the correct byte-manipulation 
stuff.  The device-dependent bits would still be in user space and it would be 
generic to EBSA-285 and (I think) CATS, though not NetWinder because that has 
extra hardware that needs to get involved.  I just haven't got around to 
implementing it yet.

p.


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I dont know if it is arm or kernel related so I'm writing to
both lists

I've tried to boot Linux on an EBSA285 arm based card, with nfsroot
Kernel 2.2.1, patched for arm

I've got three problems: 
* some times, when the kernel is sending rarp requests, tcpdump tells
arp-#65535 for proto #65535 (255) hardware #1(255)
and the server never responds
* some other times, I get good rarp requests, the rarp server responds
but the client never get the response.

* And most of the time, rarp works, then the client looks for 
RPC 100003/2 and gets a response, then it looks for
RPC 100005/1 and never gets the response. I've tried with 
portmap_4 and portmap_5beta, it's the same

Here are rpcinfo -p output and tcpdump output

   program vers proto   port
    100000    2   tcp    111
    100000    2   udp    111
    100003    2   udp   2049
    100021    1   udp   1024
    100021    3   udp   1024
    100021    1   tcp   1024
    100021    3   tcp   1024
    100005    1   udp    671
    100005    1   tcp    673
    100005    2   udp    676
    100005    2   tcp    678
    100005    3   udp    681
    100005    3   tcp    683

15:55:20.355039 rarp who-is 0:10:4b:4b:4c:7e tell 0:10:4b:4b:4c:7e
15:55:20.355114 rarp reply 0:10:4b:4b:4c:7e at strongarm
15:55:20.476786 arp who-has dcs tell strongarm
15:55:20.476866 arp reply dcs is-at 2:7:1:1b:df:70
15:55:20.477259 strongarm.800 > dcs.sunrpc: udp 56
15:55:20.478016 dcs.sunrpc > strongarm.800: udp 28
15:55:20.528471 strongarm.800 > dcs.sunrpc: udp 56
15:55:25.470053 arp who-has strongarm tell dcs
15:55:25.470442 arp reply strongarm is-at 0:10:4b:4b:4c:7e
15:55:25.525558 strongarm.800 > dcs.sunrpc: udp 56
15:55:30.525336 arp who-has dcs tell strongarm
15:55:30.525405 arp reply dcs is-at 2:7:1:1b:df:70
15:55:35.525703 strongarm.800 > dcs.sunrpc: udp 56
15:55:50.526013 strongarm.800 > dcs.sunrpc: udp 56
15:56:10.642766 strongarm.800 > dcs.sunrpc: udp 56
15:56:15.636498 strongarm.800 > dcs.627: udp 64
15:56:25.636709 strongarm.800 > dcs.627: udp 64
15:56:40.637021 strongarm.800 > dcs.627: udp 64


christophe
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Has anyone tried a PCNET AM79C971 based card on EBSA285 ?
Mine doesn't works, it is detected by driver but sends nothing
to the network

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> 
> PS, Am I right in saying that the Angel initialisation code does not probe
> for the size of the SDRAMs?  I didn't notice any change in the setup of the
> SDRAMs when I change the SDRAMs fitted.
> 

There is a routine in target.s (angel sources) that is supposed
to detect memory size. It should be used by angel

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In your flash driver, you tell that there is no write fonction
and that we must mmap and play flash dependent tricks.

But, as far as I remember, mmap is not synchronous. So
if you write 0x40404040, then your word at the same location, it
doesn't mean that it will be really written on the flash,
so you can't program like that.

Why not doing a write function ? Even if there is one
for NETWINDER, one for CATS and one for EBSA285 

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Hallo!

Here is a boot loader for use with the CATS machines and your
favourite Linux kernel (we're currently working with 2.2.1+rmk4
configured for CATS support and NOT Netwinder).
UUdecode, then gunzip, then cat the *binary* image of the linux
kernel (vmlinux) to the end of the loader.

Then comes the tricky part.  Set the second word (i.e. bytes
4 to 7) of the loader needs to contain the total length of
the file after the cat.

   # This assumes you've run make in the linux directory
   uudecode <catslo.uue >catslo.gz
   gunzip <catslo.gz >catslo.bin
   objcopy vmlinux -O binary vmlinux.bin
   cat catslo.bin vmlinux.bin >/linux
   # now patch the length of the file into bytes 4..7
   # (anyone wants to write a script for this???)

Copy the file into the root of your BSD partition, chmod 544,
and shutdown BSD.  At the ROM boot> prompt type
   boot wd0a:/linux
to see the beautiful logo and then the startup of Linux.
For now, we're failing on IDE support in the Linux kernel,
but working on it...

Frank

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The Wakefield Acorn Computer Group would love to have an ARMLinux expert to
demonstrate the wonders of Linux at the forthcoming Acorn Spring Show.

There has recently been a lot of interest shown in ARMLinux.

If anyone is interested in making a presentation of ARMLinux to the
theatre audience, would they please contact me by private email.

TA!

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Ruth Gunstone          (ruth at bolsterstone dot demon dot co dot uk)

                  ||           A 202MHz StrongARM User.               ||
                  ||      Now - can someone build me a computer       ||
                  ||             around it please?!                   ||
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Okay; applied latest egcs patches to egcs 1.1.1.

    % ./configure --target=arm-linux --prefix=/usr
    % cd gcc; make LANGUAGES="cc"

Eventually I get an abort with:

    libgcc1.S:430: asm/unistd.h: No such file or directory

which I presume means I need the ARM headers somewhere, so it can
get the syscall numbers.  Can someone tell me where I can find
instructions on which to do; it looks like I more or less follow
the section "If you are building on a Linux/ARM system...", except
that I'm running i386 Linux.  Any ideas?

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Okay, postscript to last time.  I applied the latest 2.0.36 ARM 
patches to a vanilla kernel, and copied `include/{asm-arm,linux}' 
into `/usr/arm-linux/include/{asm,linux}'.  Building now stops
with following error:

    In file included from /usr/include/posix1_lim.h:72,
                 from /usr/include/limits.h:30,
                 from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-unknown-linux-gnulibc1/2.7.2.3/include/limits.h:116,
                 from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-unknown-linux-gnulibc1/2.7.2.3/include/syslimits.h:7,
                 from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-unknown-linux-gnulibc1/2.7.2.3/include/limits.h:11,
                 from /usr/include/sys/param.h:5,
                 from system.h:101,
                 from g++.c:41:
    /usr/include/linux/limits.h:4: asm/limits.h: No such file or directory
    make: *** [g++.o] Error 1

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>Has anyone tried a PCNET AM79C971 based card on EBSA285 ?
>Mine doesn't works, it is detected by driver but sends nothing
>to the network

It probably needs DMA cache-sync operations adding.

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>The kernel compiles fine, but gets a long list of unresolved sym's during 
>linking. 

It looks like compilation may be broken for ebsa-110 at the moment.  I don't 
think it's a cross compile issue specifically.

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>    libgcc1.S:430: asm/unistd.h: No such file or directory
>
>which I presume means I need the ARM headers somewhere, so it can
>get the syscall numbers.

That's right.  Unpack the sources somewhere and make the appropriate symlinks 
into /usr/arm-linux/include/{asm,linux}.  You need to configure the kernel 
tree too.

>the section "If you are building on a Linux/ARM system...", except
>that I'm running i386 Linux.  Any ideas?

Actually, I probably intended to write `if you're building *for* a Linux/ARM 
system' there.  You do indeed want to follow those instructions except that 
obviously the kernel in /usr/src/linux is unlikely to be the one you want.

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On Wed, 24 Feb 1999, Philip Blundell wrote:

> That's right.  Unpack the sources somewhere and make the appropriate symlinks 
> into /usr/arm-linux/include/{asm,linux}.  You need to configure the kernel 
> tree too.

Done that; I got some temporary error about <asm/limits.h>, but I
kicked it and it worked.  Builds okay, `make install' fine.  Now
onto `/usr/src/linux-2.0.36-arm'.

`make menuconfig', having set `CROSS_COMPILE' to `arm-linux-' in
the top-level Makefile (or do I want `/usr/arm-linux/'?), ran
`make zImage'.  Appears to work, but:

    cc1: warning: Option '-m3' deprecated.  Use: '-mapcs-26' or -mcpu=<proc>

and a few whinges from egcs.  (I'm building for an A5000, so I want
to make a toolchain for `armv2-linux'?)

Okay, however, fatal:

    perl extractinfo.perl arm-linux-objdump > getconstants.h
    /usr/bin/gcc -I/usr/src/linux-2.0.36-arm/include -D__KERNEL__ -o getconstants getconstants.c
    In file included from getconstants.c:17:
    getconstants.h:4: parse error before `='
    getconstants.h:6: parse error before `='
    getconstants.h:8: parse error before `='
    getconstants.h:10: parse error before `='
    getconstants.h:12: parse error before `='
    getconstants.h:14: parse error before `='
    getconstants.c: In function `main':
    getconstants.c:52: `tss_memmap' undeclared (first use this function)
    getconstants.c:52: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
    getconstants.c:52: for each function it appears in.)
    getconstants.c:53: `tss_save' undeclared (first use this function)
    getconstants.c:57: `tss_fpesave' undeclared (first use this function)
    getconstants.c:58: `mm' undeclared (first use this function)
    getconstants.c:59: `pgd' undeclared (first use this function)
    make[2]: *** [getconstants] Error 1
    make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.36-arm/arch/arm/lib'
    make[1]: *** [../lib/constants.h] Error 2  
    make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.36-arm/arch/arm/kernel'
    make: *** [linuxsubdirs] Error 2

What now?

> Actually, I probably intended to write `if you're building *for* a Linux/ARM 
> system' there.  You do indeed want to follow those instructions except that 
> obviously the kernel in /usr/src/linux is unlikely to be the one you want.

Sure; `/usr/src/linux-2.0.36-arm' is mine.

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Phil,

Thanks to your latest instructions, I was able to build and install 'GLIBC
v2.1' for 'arm-linux'. I was also successful cross compiling (./xgcc -static
-o hello hello.c) a "Hello World" application and running it on a NetWinder.
However, I'm still strugling to finish building EGCS. This is what I did:


Went back to 'egcs' and ran...


#./configure --target=arm-linux --prefix=/usr/local/arm
--with-headers=/usr/local/arm/glibc/arm-linux-glibc/include
--with-libs=/usr/local/arm/glibc/arm-linux-glibc/lib


Followed by...


#make LANGUAGES="c c++"


And it returns some of the following errors...


/usr/local/arm/arm-linux/sys-include/bits/mathinline.h: In function `fmodl':
/usr/local/arm/arm-linux/sys-include/bits/mathinline.h:365: unknown register
nam
e `ax' in `asm'
/usr/local/arm/arm-linux/sys-include/bits/mathinline.h: In function `pow':
/usr/local/arm/arm-linux/sys-include/bits/mathinline.h:376: unknown register
nam
e `st(1)' in `asm'
/usr/local/arm/arm-linux/sys-include/bits/mathinline.h: In function `powf':
/usr/local/arm/arm-linux/sys-include/bits/mathinline.h:376: unknown register
nam
e `st(1)' in `asm'
/usr/local/arm/arm-linux/sys-include/bits/mathinline.h: In function `powl':
/usr/local/arm/arm-linux/sys-include/bits/mathinline.h:376: unknown register
nam
e `st(1)' in `asm'
/usr/local/arm/arm-linux/sys-include/bits/mathinline.h: In function
`floatformat
_to_double':
/usr/local/arm/arm-linux/sys-include/bits/mathinline.h:495: inconsistent
operand
 constraints in an `asm'
/usr/local/arm/arm-linux/sys-include/bits/mathinline.h:495: inconsistent
operand
 constraints in an `asm'
make[1]: *** [floatformat.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/home/chagas/egcs/egcs-1.1.1/arm-linux/libiberty'
make: *** [all-target-libiberty] Error 2


What am I doing wrong this time?  Note that I still have '-Dinhibit_libc'
defined in 'Makefile'.

Jason



	----------
	From:  Philip Blundell [SMTP:philb@gnu.org]
	Sent:  Tuesday, February 23, 1999 4:18 PM
	To:  Chagas, Jason
	Cc:  linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu
	Subject:  Re: HELP - Egcs 1.1.1 

	>and ran ...
	>
	># CC=arm-linux-gcc ./configure arm-linux --build=i
	>686-pc-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr/local/arm/glibc/arm-linux-glibc
	>-enable-add-ons --with-headers=/usr/src/linux-2.0.36/include

	Jason,

	A similar problem again I think.  It matters which architecture the
kernel 
	is configured for, and it looks like this is an i586 kernel source
tree.  In 
	fact the i386 and ARM headers and APIs are similar enough that the
compilation 
	would very nearly have worked.  Fortunately the i386 does indirect
syscalls 
	rather differently.

	The version.h file is only created during the kernel compile
process.  You 
	need to at least do `make config' to generate it.  Get hold of an
ARM kernel 
	source tree, check that ARCH is set to `arm' in the makefile,
configure the 
	kernel and then point the glibc compile at it.  If you put symlinks
to the 
	kernel source tree in $PREFIX/include/{asm,linux} you can do without
the 
	--with-headers option.

	If that really was an ARM kernel source tree then I guess the
problem must be 
	somewhere else.

	BTW, I noticed you're using glibc-2.0.111.  I have a feeling that
version was 
	rather buggy.  To save more grief in the future you might like to
get the 
	official 2.1 release from ftp://sourceware.cygnus.com/pub/glibc/ and
try your 
	luck with that instead.

	p.
	
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The saga continues:

I retrieved the crypt and linuxthreads
packages and untarred them under the glibc2.1
directory.

I then ran configure again, this time not trying to
disable sanity check. It failed on a test with:

checking for symlinks in
/home/elph/tjl/work/sw/armlinux/arm-linux/include...
../glibc-2.1/configure: test: argument expected

So I went back to the ARM tool web page and reread it. There was some
info for
compiling GCC which I hadn't thought relevant earlier, so I went and
added sym links
as described. But that wasn't the problem was it?

I'd already specified where to find linux headers with the special
configure option:
CC=arm-linux-gcc ../glibc-2.1/configure arm-linux
--prefix=/home/elph/tjl/work/sw/armlinux/arm-linux --enable-add-ons
--with-headers=/home/elph/tjl/work/sw/armlinux/linux/include

Are my prefixes the problem??

I used:

prefix=/home/elph/tjl/work/sw/armlinux

for binutils and egcs

and

prefix=/home/elph/tjl/work/sw/armlinux/arm-linux

for glibc2.1

What sym link is configure actually testing for?


Here is the transcript for that run of configure, if it helps.

tjl@gobbi $ CC=arm-linux-gcc ../glibc-2.1/configure arm-linux
--prefix=/home/elph/tjl/work/sw/armlinux/arm-linux --enable-add-ons
--with-headers=/home/elph/tjl/work/sw/armlinux/linux/include
loading cache ./config.cache
checking host system type... arm-unknown-linux-gnu
checking sysdep dirs... sysdeps/arm/elf crypt/sysdeps/unix
linuxthreads/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux linuxthreads/sysdeps/pthread
linuxthreads/sysdeps/unix/sysv linuxthreads/sysdeps/unix
linuxthreads/sysdeps/arm linuxthreads/sysdeps/pthread/no-cmpxchg
sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/arm sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux sysdeps/gnu
sysdeps/unix/common sysdeps/unix/mman sysdeps/unix/inet
sysdeps/unix/sysv sysdeps/unix/arm sysdeps/unix sysdeps/posix
sysdeps/arm/fpu sysdeps/arm sysdeps/wordsize-32 sysdeps/ieee754
sysdeps/libm-ieee754 sysdeps/generic/elf sysdeps/generic
checking for a BSD compatible install... ../glibc-2.1/scripts/install-sh
-c
checking whether ln -s works... yes
checking build system type... arm-unknown-linux-gnu
checking for gcc... arm-linux-gcc
checking version of arm-linux-gcc... egcs-2.91.60, ok
checking for make... make
checking version of make... 3.77, ok
checking for msgfmt... msgfmt
checking version of msgfmt... v. ?.??, bad
checking for makeinfo... no
configure: warning:
*** An auxiliary program is missing or too old;
*** some features will be disabled.
*** Check the INSTALL file for required versions.
checking whether the C compiler (arm-linux-gcc  ) works... no
checking whether the C compiler (arm-linux-gcc  ) is a cross-compiler...
(cached) yes
checking whether we are using GNU C... yes
checking build system type... arm-unknown-linux-gnu
checking how to run the C preprocessor... /lib/cpp
checking whether /home/elph/tjl/work/sw/armlinux/arm-linux/bin/as is GNU
as... yes
checking whether /home/elph/tjl/work/sw/armlinux/arm-linux/bin/ld is GNU
ld... yes
checking for mig... mig
checking whether ranlib is necessary... no
checking LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable... ok
checking for bash... /usr/bin/bash
checking for mawk... no
checking for gawk... no
checking for nawk... nawk
checking for perl... /usr/local/bin/perl
checking for install-info... no
checking for signed size_t type... yes
checking for libc-friendly stddef.h... yes
checking whether we need to use -P to assemble .S files... no
checking for assembler global-symbol directive... .globl
checking for .set assembler directive... no
checking for .symver assembler directive... yes
checking for ld --version-script... yes
checking for .previous assembler directive... yes
checking for assembler .weak directive... yes
checking for ld --no-whole-archive... yes
checking for gcc -fexceptions... yes
checking for DWARF2 unwind info support... no
checking for __builtin_expect... no
running configure fragment for
../glibc-2.1/linuxthreads/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux
running configure fragment for ../glibc-2.1/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux
checking installed Linux kernel header files... 2.0.10 or later
checking for symlinks in
/home/elph/tjl/work/sw/armlinux/arm-linux/include...
../glibc-2.1/configure: test: argument expected


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Okay, after a bit of investigating, it seems getconstants.h is
full of statements like this:

    unsigned long  = 700;
    #define __HAS_

getconstants.h is generated thus:

    perl extractinfo.perl /usr/bin/arm-linux-objdump > getconstants.h

Any ideas why that script is failing to produce get identifier names?

Also, could someone explain the `difference' between the toolchain
`/usr/arm-linux/bin/*' and `/usr/bin/arm-linux-*'?  `objdump' is
only in /usr/bin/arm-linux-objdump, not in /usr/arm-linux/bin/objdump,
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Philip Blundell said:
> >The kernel compiles fine, but gets a long list of unresolved sym's during 
> >linking. 
> 
> It looks like compilation may be broken for ebsa-110 at the moment.  I don't 
> think it's a cross compile issue specifically.

I don't think so - before releasing the rmk4 patches, the kernel was compiled
for each of the following architectures:

 - rpc
 - DC21285 with EBSA285 and NetWinder support
 - EBSA-110
 - A5000

I didn't notice any problems with any of these builds - can you give your
exact configuration please (.config file).
--
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>I've found the problem. Here is a patch

Great.  Send it to Michael Chastain, his address is in the MAINTAINERS file.

p.



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At 04:21 PM 2/24/99 +0000, you wrote:
>Has anyone tried a PCNET AM79C971 based card on EBSA285 ?
>Mine doesn't works, it is detected by driver but sends nothing
>to the network

As Phil said the problem is probably due to cache consistency (or the lack
of it)
on the EBSA.

Intel, Alpha and SPARC PCI systems provide cache coherency between the PCI bus
and the processor - so if the Net card writes to main memory and then the host
looks at that location it will pretty much immediatly see the change.

On systems based around the StrongARM/21285 combination if the location
happened to be previously in the processor cache then even after the write
by the net card, the processor will see the old value. This confuses the hell
out of the network drivers which presume they are on a system like Intel.

The tulip driver has been suitably frobbed to perform cache invalidation
where needed;
but this is not true of other drivers.

One way to see if this is the problem is to disable the processor cache by
editing
head-armv.S - there is somewhere where it sets up the cache and write
buffers; with
a line something like (I dont have the source in front of me!):

  orr r0,r0, #????? ; Set bits in MMU registers  I*******DW*

(No I can't remember the details - but the thing to look for is this string
of letters
at the end with separators with a DW near one end).  You want to add a bic
below it
to clear the DW bits to disable the data cache and writebuffer.

Dave


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>I didn't notice any problems with any of these builds - can you give your
>exact configuration please (.config file).

I guess he probably had CONFIG_VT or something like that turned on.  Is there 
anything to stop that going wrong?

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>/usr/local/arm/arm-linux/sys-include/bits/mathinline.h: In function `fmodl':
>/usr/local/arm/arm-linux/sys-include/bits/mathinline.h:365: unknown register
>name `ax' in `asm'

It looks like this is a remnant from the i386 version of glibc that you 
installed by mistake.  Try deleting everything in 
/usr/local/arm/arm-linux/{include,lib} and rerunning `make install' for glibc.

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Hello,

I've just recently signed up on the list, so bear with me, thanks.

Dr . David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> 
> At 04:21 PM 2/24/99 +0000, you wrote:
> >Has anyone tried a PCNET AM79C971 based card on EBSA285 ?
> >Mine doesn't works, it is detected by driver but sends nothing
> >to the network
> 
> As Phil said the problem is probably due to cache consistency (or the lack
> of it)
> on the EBSA.
> 
> Intel, Alpha and SPARC PCI systems provide cache coherency between the PCI bus
> and the processor - so if the Net card writes to main memory and then the host
> looks at that location it will pretty much immediatly see the change.
> 
> On systems based around the StrongARM/21285 combination if the location
> happened to be previously in the processor cache then even after the write
> by the net card, the processor will see the old value. This confuses the hell
> out of the network drivers which presume they are on a system like Intel.

This is a bit unfortunate? no?

Whats the root cause of this? the 21285's PCI implementation? or the SA?

Doesn't this mean that most (if not all) IO/DMA device drivers need
patching to run on ARMLinux?

Conor
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Philip Blundell wrote:
> 
> >With philb kernels, It doesn't crash but it ALWAYS defines
> >CONFIG_MSDOS_FS and CONFIG_VFAT_FS, even when CONFIG_FAT_FS is unset
> 
> Does it define them to M or Y?  If the former I suspect this is because
> menuconfig has a different idea about dep_tristate to the other config
> systems, and they need wrapping in a 'if [ $CONFIG_FAT_FS != "n" ]' type
> construct.
> 
> If the latter I've no idea.

I've found the problem. Here is a patch

christophe

--- linux.2.2.1-arm/scripts/Menuconfig.org      Thu Feb 25 09:52:04 1999
+++ linux.2.2.1-arm/scripts/Menuconfig  Thu Feb 25 09:52:31 1999
@@ -190,7 +190,7 @@
        else if [ "$3" = "m" ]; then
            mod_bool "$1" "$2"
        else
-           define_bool "$2" "$n"
+           define_bool "$2" "n"
        fi; fi
 }
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> Hello,
> 
> I've just recently signed up on the list, so bear with me, thanks.
> 
> Dr . David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> > 
> > At 04:21 PM 2/24/99 +0000, you wrote:
> > >Has anyone tried a PCNET AM79C971 based card on EBSA285 ?
> > >Mine doesn't works, it is detected by driver but sends nothing
> > >to the network
> > 
> > As Phil said the problem is probably due to cache consistency (or the lack
> > of it)
> > on the EBSA.
> > 
> > Intel, Alpha and SPARC PCI systems provide cache coherency between the PCI bus
> > and the processor - so if the Net card writes to main memory and then the host
> > looks at that location it will pretty much immediatly see the change.
> > 
> > On systems based around the StrongARM/21285 combination if the location
> > happened to be previously in the processor cache then even after the write
> > by the net card, the processor will see the old value. This confuses the hell
> > out of the network drivers which presume they are on a system like Intel.
> 
> This is a bit unfortunate? no?

No.

> Whats the root cause of this? the 21285's PCI implementation? or the SA?

Could be, but try out the modification suggested earlier first to 
determine if it's cache related.

> Doesn't this mean that most (if not all) IO/DMA device drivers need
> patching to run on ARMLinux?

No, just map an uncached, unbuffered memmory space for the PCI environment 
and the problem will go away (if it is a cache related issue, that is...)

/Olof

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Dear everyone,

I note that Phil B keeps getting asked similar questions regarding the
above.  As many of us are trying to build these tools either natively or
as cross compilers is there a need for a FAQ as well as Phil's guide.  If
so I am willing to be maintainer...

Melanie

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>    perl extractinfo.perl /usr/bin/arm-linux-objdump > getconstants.h
>
>Any ideas why that script is failing to produce get identifier names?

The Perl script doesn't understand the output from your objdump.  This is why 
I suggested using a 2.2 kernel instead.

>Also, could someone explain the `difference' between the toolchain
>`/usr/arm-linux/bin/*' and `/usr/bin/arm-linux-*'?  `objdump' is

The former contains the tools that the gcc driver invokes; the latter are 
intended for users to call directly.  Mostly the files in one are hardlinks to 
the files in the other.

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>What sym link is configure actually testing for?

It's looking to see if `scsi' and `net' are symlinks into the kernel source.

>/home/elph/tjl/work/sw/armlinux/arm-linux/include...

Does that directory actually exist?  If not, try creating it.  If that's not 
the problem you need to figure out why configure is blowing up and fix it 
appropriately.

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>This is a bit unfortunate? no?
>
>Whats the root cause of this? the 21285's PCI implementation? or the SA?
>
>Doesn't this mean that most (if not all) IO/DMA device drivers need
>patching to run on ARMLinux?

The cause is simply the way the StrongARM and the 21285 are designed.  To 
provide a fully coherent cache without involvement from software, logic must 
be provided in the chipset to snoop cycles on the bus and take appropriate 
action to synchronise caches when necessary.  Some processor architects felt 
this was a worthwhile feature to implement in silicon; others didn't.  The ARM 
isn't by any means the only processor to be this way.  Some MIPS systems have 
the same behaviour; I think some 68000s do as well and I'm sure there are 
others.

The only drivers that are affected are those performing DMA to main memory.
Yes, they need patching to work with Linux/ARM (or similar systems) but the 
changes are usually trivial.

Programmed I/O isn't affected.

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>No, just map an uncached, unbuffered memmory space for the PCI environment 
>and the problem will go away (if it is a cache related issue, that is...)

It's not quite that simple.  We already map PCI I/O and memory uncached.  The 
difficulty with DMA-enabled network drivers is that they want to access main 
memory which obviously needs to be cached for performance reasons.  So 
explicit synchronisation instructions are needed.

We've previously kicked around the idea of adding a GFP_UNCACHED flag to 
__get_free_page to help with this but nobody has implemented it yet.

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Dr . David Alan Gilbert said:
> >Has anyone tried a PCNET AM79C971 based card on EBSA285 ?
> >Mine doesn't works, it is detected by driver but sends nothing
> >to the network
> 
> As Phil said the problem is probably due to cache consistency (or the lack
> of it) on the EBSA.

Beware!  Be very aware!  There is an AM79C971 driver in the kernel (called
am79c971.c) for EBSA-110 systems *only*.  Do not use this on non-EBSA-110
systems.  It will not work.

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>Beware!  Be very aware!  There is an AM79C971 driver in the kernel (called
>am79c971.c) for EBSA-110 systems *only*.  Do not use this on non-EBSA-110
>systems.  It will not work.

That's a different driver.  I was talking about the pcnet32 one.

p.


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Russell King wrote:
> 
> Dr . David Alan Gilbert said:
> > >Has anyone tried a PCNET AM79C971 based card on EBSA285 ?
> > >Mine doesn't works, it is detected by driver but sends nothing
> > >to the network
> >
> > As Phil said the problem is probably due to cache consistency (or the lack
> > of it) on the EBSA.
> 
> Beware!  Be very aware!  There is an AM79C971 driver in the kernel (called
> am79c971.c) for EBSA-110 systems *only*.  Do not use this on non-EBSA-110
> systems.  It will not work.

Err, there is only a AM79C961A driver for EBSA110.
I'm using LANCE PCI Driver

Christophe
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On Thu, 25 Feb 1999, Melanie Rhianna Lewis wrote:

> I note that Phil B keeps getting asked similar questions regarding the
> above.  As many of us are trying to build these tools either natively or
> as cross compilers is there a need for a FAQ as well as Phil's guide.  If
> so I am willing to be maintainer...

The only problem is I think it's very much `undiscovered country' at
the moment; nebulous and subject to rapid change.  Once things have
settled down a little (say, *perhaps*, in a month?) the need for
such things might be a little alleviated.  Dunno.

*chink*

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At 11:07 AM 2/25/99 +0100, you wrote:
>> Doesn't this mean that most (if not all) IO/DMA device drivers need
>> patching to run on ARMLinux?
>
>No, just map an uncached, unbuffered memmory space for the PCI environment 
>and the problem will go away (if it is a cache related issue, that is...)

Unfortunatly life ain't that easy.

With DMA your DMAing into main memory.  This wouldn't be too difficult to fix
if the sections being DMA'd into were allocated separatly - we could add some
magical flag to say that it needed to be uncached etc.

Unfortunatly many device drivers allocate a block of memory which is accessed
both by the kernel (and which needs to be fast) and by the device on the bus.
Some locations in the block are used by one and not the other and thus
you dont want to alter the cache/buffering settings.

Normally you find that most drivers consist of things which set stuff up in
shared memory and then 'kick' the other end - either by writing to an IO
register
or by writing some magical flag into a piece of shared memory.
You need to find those places in the code and cause a cache flush at that
point.
Sometimes you need to be careful to flush most of the data and then flush
the magical
flag to get the ordering correct.

Then you need to find whereever reads something back (normally in interrupt
code
which reads the magical flag back) and do a cache flush/invalidate before
the read.

(Unfortunatly I can't do much more work on this at the moment since the
cache in my
EBSA285 seems to be ill....)

Dave

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christophe leroy said:
> Russell King wrote:
> > Dr . David Alan Gilbert said:
> > > >Has anyone tried a PCNET AM79C971 based card on EBSA285 ?
> > > >Mine doesn't works, it is detected by driver but sends nothing
> > > >to the network
> > >
> > > As Phil said the problem is probably due to cache consistency (or the lack
> > > of it) on the EBSA.
> > 
> > Beware!  Be very aware!  There is an AM79C971 driver in the kernel (called
> > am79c971.c) for EBSA-110 systems *only*.  Do not use this on non-EBSA-110
> > systems.  It will not work.
> 
> Err, there is only a AM79C961A driver for EBSA110.
> I'm using LANCE PCI Driver

That was not clear in your original mail.

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Any quick thoughts on the following NFS errors encountered during init
(rc.sysinit):

kernel: 2.2.1-rmk3, platform: ebsa285,root file system is NFS

Initializing random number generator             [  OK  ]
INIT: Entering runlevel: 3
Bringing up interface lo                         [  OK  ]
__nfs_fhget: inode 552755 busy, i_count=2, i_nlink=1
nfs_free_dentries: found subsys/random, d_count=0, hashed=1
nfs_dentry_delete: subsys/random: ino=552755, count=2, nlink=1
Starting portmapper:                             [  OK  ]
Mounting remote filesystems                      [  OK  ]
Initializing random number generator             [  OK  ]
Starting system loggers: nfs_refresh_inode: inode 121037 mode changed, 0144755
to 0020666
  syslogd: cannot create /dev/log: Input/output error
nfs_lookup_validate: dev/log has dud inode
__nfs_fhget: inode 121037 busy, i_count=2, i_nlink=1
nfs_free_dentries: found dev/log, d_count=1, hashed=0
__nfs_fhget: inode 121037 still busy, i_count=2
__nfs_fhget: killing dev/log filehandle


=========
Secondly, is it possible to swap to a NFS file via the loop device ?
Are patchs required ?

Thanks,

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>And then it queries RPC GETPORT 100005/1. Here begin troubles:
>IP id is 1, but IP checksum and UDP checksum are the same than the 
>previous ones, which are not the good checksum for this packet.
>Second packet queriing RPC GETPORT 100005/1. This time, IP id is 2,
>IP checksum is 0x22ea, bad checksum but UDP checksum is good (0x31cd)

Again this sounds like it might be a DMA cache coherency problem.  The 3c59x.c 
driver doesn't seem to have had the appropriate surgery yet as far as I can 
see.  Did you try running with the D-cache disabled like Dave suggested?

p.


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> >No, just map an uncached, unbuffered memmory space for the PCI environment 
> >and the problem will go away (if it is a cache related issue, that is...)
> 
> It's not quite that simple.  We already map PCI I/O and memory uncached.  The 
> difficulty with DMA-enabled network drivers is that they want to access main 
> memory which obviously needs to be cached for performance reasons.  So 
> explicit synchronisation instructions are needed.
> 
> We've previously kicked around the idea of adding a GFP_UNCACHED flag to 
> __get_free_page to help with this but nobody has implemented it yet.

This doesnt help you in general. Having the ring buffer uncached on a lance
is the wrong solution (tm) for most platforms. Its better to flush the page
out of cache and push it to memory when writing. That gets you things like
burst writes.

Alan
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> > >No, just map an uncached, unbuffered memmory space for the PCI environment 
> > >and the problem will go away (if it is a cache related issue, that is...)
> > 
> > It's not quite that simple.  We already map PCI I/O and memory uncached.  The 
> > difficulty with DMA-enabled network drivers is that they want to access main 
> > memory which obviously needs to be cached for performance reasons.  So 
> > explicit synchronisation instructions are needed.
> > 
> > We've previously kicked around the idea of adding a GFP_UNCACHED flag to 
> > __get_free_page to help with this but nobody has implemented it yet.
> 
> This doesnt help you in general. Having the ring buffer uncached on a
> lance is the wrong solution (tm) for most platforms. Its better to flush
> the page out of cache and push it to memory when writing. That gets you
> things like burst writes.

Accept my apologies. I re-read the code once again (and not as fast as the 
last time) and found that only some parts of the PCI stuff had uncached 
MMU entries and that there did, indeed, exist calls to SysDcacheFlush() in 
my code at those points mentioned above.

/Olof

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>This doesnt help you in general. Having the ring buffer uncached on a lance
>is the wrong solution (tm) for most platforms. Its better to flush the page
>out of cache and push it to memory when writing. That gets you things like
>burst writes.

The idea for cached memory was for descriptor lists and things that you touch 
frequently but usually only a single word at a time.  For those it seems 
better to have an uncached area than push it out of the cache all the time.  
Burst writes aren't a big deal if you're only transferring one word, and a 
single-word uncached read is actually faster than a cache line fill.

For packet buffers and the like I agree with you.

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>I've tried with D cache off, it works far better with 3COM card

Great.  To fix it properly you need to go through the driver, work out where 
DMA operations take place and add appropriate calls to dma_cache_wback() or 
dma_cache_inv() to synchronise with main memory.

>It doesn't work better with LANCE card: still have nothing at all

OK.  Maybe the lance has general compatibility problems of its own.  I'll 
take a look at the driver and see if I can spot anything.

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I've got strange problems trying to boot with nfsroot

RARP packet are good and the strongarm gets the answer
The RPC GETPORT 100003/2 is good, IP id is 0,IP checksum is 0x22eb
UDP checksum is 0x32ce
The strong ARM get the response from the server (a i586-linux)
And then it queries RPC GETPORT 100005/1. Here begin troubles:
IP id is 1, but IP checksum and UDP checksum are the same than the 
previous ones, which are not the good checksum for this packet.
Second packet queriing RPC GETPORT 100005/1. This time, IP id is 2,
IP checksum is 0x22ea, bad checksum but UDP checksum is good (0x31cd)

The other contents of packets are OK
This bug is exactly the same each time I boot.

Network card is a 3COM PCI 3c905B with 8K ram
Kernel is 2.2.1rmk4+philb, on EBSA285 with DEC PCI backplane

christophe
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>How do I cross build bash on a i486 ?

With great difficulty.  Autoconf scripts are often awkward for cross 
compiling, and bash is worse than most because it contains a great number of 
tests that don't work.

>have tried CC=arm-linux-gcc ./configure --host=arm-linux
>--build=i486-linux 

This is how it ought to work, but as you've discovered the configure scripts 
expect to be able to compile and run programs on the build machine.

Unless you really, *really* want to cross-compile bash I suggest you don't 
bother trying.

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christophe leroy wrote:
> 
> I've got strange problems trying to boot with nfsroot
> 
> RARP packet are good and the strongarm gets the answer
> The RPC GETPORT 100003/2 is good, IP id is 0,IP checksum is 0x22eb
> UDP checksum is 0x32ce
> The strong ARM get the response from the server (a i586-linux)
> And then it queries RPC GETPORT 100005/1. Here begin troubles:
> IP id is 1, but IP checksum and UDP checksum are the same than the
> previous ones, which are not the good checksum for this packet.
> Second packet queriing RPC GETPORT 100005/1. This time, IP id is 2,
> IP checksum is 0x22ea, bad checksum but UDP checksum is good (0x31cd)
> 
> The other contents of packets are OK
> This bug is exactly the same each time I boot.
> 
> Network card is a 3COM PCI 3c905B with 8K ram
> Kernel is 2.2.1rmk4+philb, on EBSA285 with DEC PCI backplane
> 
> christophe

I've tried with D cache off, it works far better with 3COM card

It doesn't work better with LANCE card: still have nothing at all

christophe
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>>>>> "Philip" == Philip Blundell <pb@nexus.co.uk> writes:

 >> This doesnt help you in general. Having the ring buffer uncached
 >> on a lance is the wrong solution (tm) for most platforms. Its
 >> better to flush the page out of cache and push it to memory when
 >> writing. That gets you things like burst writes.

 Philip> The idea for cached memory was for descriptor lists and
 Philip> things that you touch frequently but usually only a single
 Philip> word at a time.  For those it seems better to have an
 Philip> uncached area than push it out of the cache all the time.
 Philip> Burst writes aren't a big deal if you're only transferring
 Philip> one word, and a single-word uncached read is actually faster
 Philip> than a cache line fill.

 Philip> For packet buffers and the like I agree with you.

I'll second that.

I spend my days writing code for a MIPS-based router.  As Philip
mentioned earlier, MIPS systems certainly tend to avoid snoopy DMA
designs, and a 68040 I worked on likewise.  The reason for that is
simple: DMA coherence at best gives you a MAJOR complexity hit in the
hardware design, and at worst a major performance hit as well.  (For
example the 68040 supported it but at the cost of a clock tick per DMA 
cycle, not to mention the need to couple the processor bus much more
closely to the other buses in the system.)

For routers, it turns out the best design is to have all I/O related
memory (packet buffers too) uncached.  Sometimes if you don't mind the 
software hair it helps a little to access a header or descriptor via a 
cached alias address but this is very hard to get right.  

For a general purpose system I'd agree that the packet buffers
*probably* should be cacheable -- especially if the CPU in question
can do cache push efficiently.  (The 68040 is an example of one that
cannot -- a null cache push takes 256 cycles!)  But all I/O control
structures such as device descriptor rings or queues are best put in
uncached space; the performance impact is somewhere between trivial
and nil for this sort of system, and the benefits in software
reliability are large indeed.

	paul
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How do I cross build bash on a i486 ?

have tried ./configure --target=arm-linux : it is ignored
have tried ./configure --host=arm-linux --build=i486-linux : tells
it builds for arm-linux, but still uses GCC
have tried CC=arm-linux-gcc ./configure --host=arm-linux
--build=i486-linux : It tells he cannot execute ./dummy (he has compiled
it for arm and tries to execute on i486. Silly boy)

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christophe leroy writes:
 > I've tried to execute the following init prog with my kernel that
 > now correctly boots:
 > 
 > #include <stdio.h>
 > #include <sys/time.h>
 > 
 > main()
 > {
 >         while (1) {
 >                 printf("Coucou les amis\n");
 >                 fflush(stdout);
 >                 sleep(1);
 >         }
 > }
 > 
 > On console I've got: Freeing unused kernel memory: 8k init
 > Then nothing.
 > EBSA285 responds to ping during kernel boot, but not anymore at this 
 > point
 > 
 > Compiled with crossbuild egcs-1.1b and glibc-2.0.112
 > Doesn't work better when statically linked

/dev/syscons is probably not there or not set up correctly,
you should see a message about no console during boot...

Dave Baukus <dbaukus@inetinc.com>

>		mknod syscons c 5 1
>		ln -s syscons console

suggested this sometime ago and it works for me (on an EBSA285..)

Andrew
	
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>EBSA285 responds to ping during kernel boot, but not anymore at this 
>point

Have you turned on `debug user faults' in the kernel config?  It could be that 
your program is dying for some reason.  If init exits then the kernel will 
probably just lock up.

p.


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Philip Blundell said:
> Again this sounds like it might be a DMA cache coherency problem.  The 3c59x.c 
> driver doesn't seem to have had the appropriate surgery yet as far as I can 
> see.  Did you try running with the D-cache disabled like Dave suggested?

The 3c59x driver does not have any Dcache coherency problems - I've
been running my 3c592 Vortex card with it for 6 months with no problems
on my EBSA285.

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I've tried to execute the following init prog with my kernel that
now correctly boots:

#include <stdio.h>
#include <sys/time.h>

main()
{
        while (1) {
                printf("Coucou les amis\n");
                fflush(stdout);
                sleep(1);
        }
}

On console I've got: Freeing unused kernel memory: 8k init
Then nothing.
EBSA285 responds to ping during kernel boot, but not anymore at this 
point

Compiled with crossbuild egcs-1.1b and glibc-2.0.112
Doesn't work better when statically linked

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Paul Koning said:
> >>>>> "Philip" == Philip Blundell <pb@nexus.co.uk> writes:
> 
>  >> This doesnt help you in general. Having the ring buffer uncached
>  >> on a lance is the wrong solution (tm) for most platforms. Its
>  >> better to flush the page out of cache and push it to memory when
>  >> writing. That gets you things like burst writes.
> 
>  Philip> The idea for cached memory was for descriptor lists and
>  Philip> things that you touch frequently but usually only a single
>  Philip> word at a time.  For those it seems better to have an
>  Philip> uncached area than push it out of the cache all the time.
>  Philip> Burst writes aren't a big deal if you're only transferring
>  Philip> one word, and a single-word uncached read is actually faster
>  Philip> than a cache line fill.
> 
>  Philip> For packet buffers and the like I agree with you.
> 
> I'll second that.

However, there is a good reason why it's preferable to have the packet
buffer cached on the StrongARM - the StrongARM core switches between
a high speed clock and the bus clock.  If you're doing several sequential
reads or writes, you really want the cache to be on.  Otherwise the
StrongARM will switch from high to bus, back to high clock for each and
every access.

This incurs extra synchronisation delays etc, so it's not a case of
'minimal performance impact'.

It really depends on the size of the structure you're dealing with though.

--
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>  Enabling bus-master transmits and whole-frame receives.
>PCI: master abort pc=C00A668C
>Sending RARP requests..... OK

I don't expect it's related to your problem but you might like to investigate 
that master abort message.  Those shouldn't happen in normal operation unless 
something is accessing nonexistent peripherals.

p.


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christophe leroy writes:
 > Andrew Thomas wrote:
 > >  > On console I've got: Freeing unused kernel memory: 8k init
 > >  > Then nothing.
 > >  > EBSA285 responds to ping during kernel boot, but not anymore at this
 > >  > point
 > >  >
 > >  > Compiled with crossbuild egcs-1.1b and glibc-2.0.112
 > >  > Doesn't work better when statically linked
 > > 
 > > /dev/syscons is probably not there or not set up correctly,
 > > you should see a message about no console during boot...
 > > 
 > > Dave Baukus <dbaukus@inetinc.com>
 > > 
 > > >               mknod syscons c 5 1
 > > >               ln -s syscons console
 > > 
 > > suggested this sometime ago and it works for me (on an EBSA285..)
 > > 
 > > Andrew
 > > 
 > 
 > I've got no message, and I've got a c 5 1 console and a c 5 1 syscons

If your running this by replacing /sbin/init then try fopening 
/dev/console etc...

Andrew
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Andrew Thomas wrote:
>  > On console I've got: Freeing unused kernel memory: 8k init
>  > Then nothing.
>  > EBSA285 responds to ping during kernel boot, but not anymore at this
>  > point
>  >
>  > Compiled with crossbuild egcs-1.1b and glibc-2.0.112
>  > Doesn't work better when statically linked
> 
> /dev/syscons is probably not there or not set up correctly,
> you should see a message about no console during boot...
> 
> Dave Baukus <dbaukus@inetinc.com>
> 
> >               mknod syscons c 5 1
> >               ln -s syscons console
> 
> suggested this sometime ago and it works for me (on an EBSA285..)
> 
> Andrew
> 

I've got no message, and I've got a c 5 1 console and a c 5 1 syscons

christophe
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Russell King wrote:
> 
> Philip Blundell said:
> > Again this sounds like it might be a DMA cache coherency problem.  The 3c59x.c
> > driver doesn't seem to have had the appropriate surgery yet as far as I can
> > see.  Did you try running with the D-cache disabled like Dave suggested?
> 
> The 3c59x driver does not have any Dcache coherency problems - I've
> been running my 3c592 Vortex card with it for 6 months with no problems
> on my EBSA285.

Sorry, but It does, at least with 3c905B Cyclone
Or, maybe am I initialising it badly (in pcibios_fixup_ebsa285()):

#define ETH_IO_BASE     0x401
#define ETH_MEM_BASE    0x00800000


                if
(dev->vendor==PCI_VENDOR_ID_3COM||dev->vendor==PCI_VENDOR_ID_AMD) {
                        pci_set_base_addr(dev, 0, ETH_IO_BASE);
                        pci_set_base_addr(dev, 1, ETH_MEM_BASE);
                        pci_set_cmd(dev, 0, PCI_COMMAND_MASTER |
PCI_COMMAND_MEMORY | PCI_COMMAND_IO);
                        /* Put the chip to sleep in case the driver
isn't loaded */
                        pci_write_config_dword(dev, 0x40, 0x80000000);
                } else pci_set_cmd(dev, 0, PCI_COMMAND_MASTER);
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Russell King wrote:
> 
> christophe leroy said:
> > On console I've got: Freeing unused kernel memory: 8k init
> > Then nothing.
> > EBSA285 responds to ping during kernel boot, but not anymore at this
> > point
> 
> It sounds like you're missing the FPEmulator.  Try configuring
> your kernel for NWFPE.
> 

I've got NWFPE in my kernel.

christophe


Linux version 2.2.1-rmk4 (root@dcs) (gcc version egcs-2.91.57 19980901
(egcs-1.1
 release)) #66 Thu Feb 25 14:53:33 1999
NetWinder Floating Point Emulator V0.94.1 (c) 1998 Corel Computer Corp.
Calibrating delay loop... 213.81 BogoMIPS
Memory: 15196k/16M available (804k code, 32k reserved, 344k data, 8k
init)
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
PCI: Intel 21285 Footbridge revision 03
PCI: Probing PCI hardware
pci_scan_bus for bus 0
PCI: master abort pc=C00118AC
PCI: 00:38 [10b7/9055]
PCI: pci_scan_bus returning with max=00
pcibios_fixup_ebsa285: ve=10b7 id=9055
PCI: 00:38 [10b7/9055] on irq 22
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0 for Linux NET4.0.
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
Starting kswapd v 1.5
Footbridge Watchdog Timer: 0.01, timer margin: 60 sec
RAM disk driver initialized:  16 RAM disks of 4096K size
3c59x.c:v0.99H 11/17/98 Donald Becker
http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/
vortex.html
eth0: 3Com 3c905B Cyclone 100baseTx at 0x400,  00:10:4b:4b:4c:7e, IRQ 22
  8K byte-wide RAM 5:3 Rx:Tx split, Autonegotiate interface.
  MII transceiver found at address 24, status 780d.
  Enabling bus-master transmits and whole-frame receives.
PCI: master abort pc=C00A668C
Sending RARP requests..... OK
IP-Config: Got RARP answer from 192.168.235.2, my address is
192.168.235.90
Looking up port of RPC 100003/2 on 192.168.235.2
Looking up port of RPC 100005/1 on 192.168.235.2
VFS: Mounted root (NFS filesystem) readonly.
Freeing unused kernel memory: 8k init
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Philip Blundell wrote:
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> >EBSA285 responds to ping during kernel boot, but not anymore at this
> >point
> 
> Have you turned on `debug user faults' in the kernel config?  It could be that
> your program is dying for some reason.  If init exits then the kernel will
> probably just lock up.

I've now turned on debug user faults, but I get nothing more
on console.

Christophe
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Andrew Thomas wrote:
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> christophe leroy writes:
>  > Andrew Thomas wrote:
>  > >  > On console I've got: Freeing unused kernel memory: 8k init
>  > >  > Then nothing.
>  > >  > EBSA285 responds to ping during kernel boot, but not anymore at this
>  > >  > point
>  > >  >
>  > >  > Compiled with crossbuild egcs-1.1b and glibc-2.0.112
>  > >  > Doesn't work better when statically linked
>  > >
>  > > /dev/syscons is probably not there or not set up correctly,
>  > > you should see a message about no console during boot...
>  > >
>  > > Dave Baukus <dbaukus@inetinc.com>
>  > >
>  > > >               mknod syscons c 5 1
>  > > >               ln -s syscons console
>  > >
>  > > suggested this sometime ago and it works for me (on an EBSA285..)
>  > >
>  > > Andrew
>  > >
>  >
>  > I've got no message, and I've got a c 5 1 console and a c 5 1 syscons
> 
> If your running this by replacing /sbin/init then try fopening
> /dev/console etc...
> 


Tried to explicitly open /dev/console and write to it:
nothing

Christophe
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philb@gnu.org wrote:
> 
> >  Enabling bus-master transmits and whole-frame receives.
> >PCI: master abort pc=C00A668C
> >Sending RARP requests..... OK
> 
> I don't expect it's related to your problem but you might like to investigate
> that master abort message.  Those shouldn't happen in normal operation unless
> something is accessing nonexistent peripherals.
> 

this pc is inside pcnet32_probe1 function, so I think I dont have
to worry about it, as I've no pcnet32 card in my system at the moment.

christophe
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Dave Baukus writes:
> kernel: 2.2.1-rmk3, platform: ebsa285,root file system is NFS

Root-NFS'd filesystems do tend to produce more debug output from the NFS
client code.

> __nfs_fhget: inode 552755 busy, i_count=2, i_nlink=1
> nfs_free_dentries: found subsys/random, d_count=0, hashed=1
> nfs_dentry_delete: subsys/random: ino=552755, count=2, nlink=1
>...
> Starting system loggers: nfs_refresh_inode: inode 121037 mode changed, 0144755
> to 0020666
>   syslogd: cannot create /dev/log: Input/output error
> nfs_lookup_validate: dev/log has dud inode

Oops.  That tends to indicate that inode numbers are changing on the server.
What is your NFS server, and are there any other systems using this export?

> Secondly, is it possible to swap to a NFS file via the loop device ?
> Are patchs required ?

No.  The loopback device does not work on NFS filesystems.
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Philip Blundell writes:
> Again this sounds like it might be a DMA cache coherency problem.  The 3c59x.c 
> driver doesn't seem to have had the appropriate surgery yet as far as I can 
> see.  Did you try running with the D-cache disabled like Dave suggested?

Argh!  My mail didn't make it out of Demon!

The 3c59x driver should not require any DMA-cache coherency - I've been running
a Vortex card for the past 6 months with zero problems.  If you have a boomerang
card, I'd suggest setting rx_copybreak to 1513 to disable bus master transfers
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philb@gnu.org writes:
> >  Enabling bus-master transmits and whole-frame receives.
> >PCI: master abort pc=C00A668C
> >Sending RARP requests..... OK
> 
> I don't expect it's related to your problem but you might like to investigate 
> that master abort message.  Those shouldn't happen in normal operation unless 
> something is accessing nonexistent peripherals.

You did configure with NWFPE didn't you?
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I looked in rmk's top-level Makefile for Linux 2.2.1, and found:

    CROSS_COMPILE   =/usr/src/bin/arm/arm-linuxelf-

What exactly is `arm-linuxelf' -- I thought `arm-linux' was ELF?

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Philip Blundell writes:
> >I didn't notice any problems with any of these builds - can you give your
> >exact configuration please (.config file).
> 
> I guess he probably had CONFIG_VT or something like that turned on.  Is there 
> anything to stop that going wrong?

Not as far as I know.  The EBSA110 is the only Linux machine that I know in the
kernel trees which doesn't have a terminal.
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Chris Rutter writes:
> I looked in rmk's top-level Makefile for Linux 2.2.1, and found:
> 
>     CROSS_COMPILE   =/usr/src/bin/arm/arm-linuxelf-
> 
> What exactly is `arm-linuxelf' -- I thought `arm-linux' was ELF?

It is arm-linux.  That is the path to my special ELF tools which are
based on the (so far not proven wrong) GCC 2.7.2.2 and binutils-2.8
toolchain I have here.  This toolchain is not binary compatable with
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christophe leroy writes:
> Russell King wrote:
> > Philip Blundell said:
> > > Again this sounds like it might be a DMA cache coherency problem.  The 3c59x.c
> > > driver doesn't seem to have had the appropriate surgery yet as far as I can
> > > see.  Did you try running with the D-cache disabled like Dave suggested?
> > 
> > The 3c59x driver does not have any Dcache coherency problems - I've
> > been running my 3c592 Vortex card with it for 6 months with no problems
> > on my EBSA285.
> 
> Sorry, but It does, at least with 3c905B Cyclone
> Or, maybe am I initialising it badly (in pcibios_fixup_ebsa285()):

Ignore my mail - I don't have the kernel sources to look at at work.  See my
later mail on this subject.
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I've got my binutils 19a for `armv2-linux' nicely configured and
installed.

I've got the kernel headers from Linux 2.2.1, patched with `rmk4' and
also the latest `philb' copied into /usr/armv2-linux/include/{asm,linux}.

I've configured egcs for `armv2-linux' fine.  I'm trying to build `gcc'.

    «inkvine» /usr/src/egcs-1.1.1-armv2-linux/gcc make LANGUAGES="c"
    gcc -DCROSS_COMPILE -DIN_GCC    -g  -DHAVE_CONFIG_H     -I. -I../../egcs-1.1.1/gcc -I../../egcs-1.1.1/gcc/config \
      -DGCC_INCLUDE_DIR=\"/usr/lib/gcc-lib/armv2-linux/egcs-2.91.60/include\" \
      -DGPLUSPLUS_INCLUDE_DIR=\"/usr/include/g++\" \
      -DOLD_GPLUSPLUS_INCLUDE_DIR=\"/usr/lib/g++-include\" \
      -DLOCAL_INCLUDE_DIR=\"/usr/local/include\" \
      -DCROSS_INCLUDE_DIR=\"/usr/armv2-linux/sys-include\" \
      -DTOOL_INCLUDE_DIR=\"/usr/armv2-linux/include\" \
      -c `echo ../../egcs-1.1.1/gcc/cccp.c | sed 's,^\./,,'`
    ../../egcs-1.1.1/gcc/cccp.c: In function `timestamp':
    ../../egcs-1.1.1/gcc/cccp.c:4085: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast
    ../../egcs-1.1.1/gcc/cccp.c: In function `special_symbol':
    ../../egcs-1.1.1/gcc/cccp.c:4212: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
    ../../egcs-1.1.1/gcc/cccp.c:4213: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
    ../../egcs-1.1.1/gcc/cccp.c:4213: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
    ../../egcs-1.1.1/gcc/cccp.c:4215: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
    ../../egcs-1.1.1/gcc/cccp.c:4215: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
    ../../egcs-1.1.1/gcc/cccp.c:4216: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
    ../../egcs-1.1.1/gcc/cccp.c: In function `initialize_builtins':
    ../../egcs-1.1.1/gcc/cccp.c:9836: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
    ../../egcs-1.1.1/gcc/cccp.c:9837: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
    ../../egcs-1.1.1/gcc/cccp.c:9837: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
    ../../egcs-1.1.1/gcc/cccp.c:9843: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
    ../../egcs-1.1.1/gcc/cccp.c:9843: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
    ../../egcs-1.1.1/gcc/cccp.c:9843: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
    make: *** [cccp.o] Error 1

Let's look at `cccp.c'.  Line 4212's problem is this:

    sprintf (buf, "\"%s %2d %4d\"", monthnames[timebuf->tm_mon],
 
where |timebuf| is declared in line 4108, like this:

    struct tm *timebuf;

The bundle later on after line 9836 are exactly the same; triggered
by selecting a member from |timebuf|.

|timebuf| is assigned its value a few lines previous like this:

    timebuf = timestamp ();

Where timestamp() is this function:

    static struct tm *timestamp PROTO((void));
    static struct tm *
    timestamp () 
    {
      static struct tm *timebuf;
      if (!timebuf) {
        time_t t = time ((time_t *) 0);
        timebuf = localtime (&t);
      }
      return timebuf;
    }

I'm now stuck -- any ideas?

-- 
Chris <chris@fluff.org>                         ( http://www.fluff.org/chris )

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>    ../../egcs-1.1.1/gcc/cccp.c:4212: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type

That error means you did something like

struct foo *bar;
 ..
bar->baz = 1;

without ever actually defining `struct foo'.

>I'm now stuck -- any ideas?

It's weird.  Run that file through gcc -E and find out what's become of the 
definition of struct tm, I guess.

p.


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Melanie,

I have the beginnings of a page you ask for:
http://ssdl-redstone.stanford.edu/~zskiraly/salinux

Take a look, and let me know what you think.

Zsolt

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Dear everyone,

I note that Phil B keeps getting asked similar questions regarding the
above.  As many of us are trying to build these tools either natively or
as cross compilers is there a need for a FAQ as well as Phil's guide.  If
so I am willing to be maintainer...

Melanie

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	Does linux-arm reserve some of the virtual address space for the
kernel? If so how much and where?

	Cheers Adam

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Philip Blundell wrote:

> >What sym link is configure actually testing for?
>
> It's looking to see if `scsi' and `net' are symlinks into the kernel source.

DO I need to put in links for these????
If I do, tell me where please.





>
>
> >/home/elph/tjl/work/sw/armlinux/arm-linux/include...
>
> Does that directory actually exist?  If not, try creating it.  If that's not
> the problem you need to figure out why configure is blowing up and fix it
> appropriately.

That directory exists, and has I added (was it necessary?) the links to

linux/include/asm-arm
linux/include/linux

How do I work out why configure is blowing up? just the log? here is the
tail of the log:

configure:2794: arm-linux-gcc  -nostdlib -nostartfiles -o conftest conftest.c
-lgcc >&5
/home/elph/tjl/work/sw/armlinux/arm-linux/bin/ld: warning: cannot find entry
symbol _start; defaulting to 02000074
/var/tmp/ccLRvZfa.o: In function `foo':
/var/tmp/ccLRvZfa.o(.text+0x1c): undefined reference to `__builtin_expect'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
configure:16: checking installed Linux kernel header files
configure:30: arm-linux-gcc -c  -nostdinc -isystem
/home/elph/tjl/work/sw/armlinux/lib/gcc-lib/arm-linux/egcs-2.91.60/include
-isystem /home/elph/tjl/work/sw/armlinux/linux/include  conftest.c 1>&5
In file included from configure:21:
confdefs.h:2: warning: undefining `__SIZE_TYPE__'
configure:131: checking for symlinks in
/home/elph/tjl/work/sw/armlinux/arm-linux/include


I wish I was on the same time zone as you guys - I'd have it working now if I
was.

Thanks





















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Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins said:
> Does linux-arm reserve some of the virtual address space for the
> kernel? If so how much and where?

linux-arm is the kernel, with any program that runs out of RAM,
it does reserve space for itself (otherwise how can it run?)
How much depends on the build size of the kernel, where is in
the systems RAM.

Could you please be more explicit?

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Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins wrote:
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>         Does linux-arm reserve some of the virtual address space for the
> kernel? If so how much and where?
> 

Yes, the same than i386
C0000000 to FFFFFFFF

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>	Does linux-arm reserve some of the virtual address space for the
>kernel? If so how much and where?

Depends on exactly what you're thinking of.  Broadly, the page from 0-0xfff 
and the area from C0000000-FFFFFFFF are reserved for the kernel's use.  Of 
that, the area at C0000000-CFFFFFFF is used for direct-mapped RAM and 
everything above that is I/O.

1000-BFFFFFFF is available for user programs.

Mark van D.'s "co285" architecture changes this around somewhat, though.  He 
puts the kernel rather a lot lower down to get more space for PCI mappings.

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>DO I need to put in links for these????
>If I do, tell me where please.

No.  If they exist, it'll just refuse to continue until you delete them.

>That directory exists, and has I added (was it necessary?) the links to
>
>linux/include/asm-arm
>linux/include/linux

That is only necessary if you don't use --with-headers.

>How do I work out why configure is blowing up? just the log? here is the
>tail of the log:

Just the log doesn't help.  You need to look at the script itself, find the 
offending line, and then work out what's wrong with it.  Nobody else has 
reported the problem so it's probably something specific to your system - 
maybe the version of the shell you're using or maybe something in the 
environment.

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Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote:
> 
> philb@gnu.org writes:
> > >  Enabling bus-master transmits and whole-frame receives.
> > >PCI: master abort pc=C00A668C
> > >Sending RARP requests..... OK
> >
> > I don't expect it's related to your problem but you might like to investigate
> > that master abort message.  Those shouldn't happen in normal operation unless
> > something is accessing nonexistent peripherals.
> 
> You did configure with NWFPE didn't you?

Yes, I did.

I'm trying to trace the problem.
In do_execve(), it never returns from the first copy_strings()

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christophe leroy said:
> Oh, by adding printk()s to function copy strings, it goes
> further. I suspect that printk is not synchronous.
> Is there a way to be sure that a printk as be written to 
> the serial port before continuing.

printk is fully synchronous.
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In the last mail Russell King - ARM Linux Admin said:

> Chris Rutter writes:
> > I looked in rmk's top-level Makefile for Linux 2.2.1, and found:
> > 
> >     CROSS_COMPILE   =/usr/src/bin/arm/arm-linuxelf-
> > 
> > What exactly is `arm-linuxelf' -- I thought `arm-linux' was ELF?
> 
> It is arm-linux.  That is the path to my special ELF tools which are
> based on the (so far not proven wrong) GCC 2.7.2.2 and binutils-2.8
> toolchain I have here.  This toolchain is not binary compatable with

Now, might this explain why Russell can build a 2.2.1 kernel that will load on
my RiscPC, when I can't ?

Nick
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	> Oh, by adding printk()s to function copy strings, it goes
	> further. I suspect that printk is not synchronous.
	> Is there a way to be sure that a printk as be written to 
	> the serial port before continuing.

	printk is fully synchronous.

Be aware that if you're using the 21285 serial port the driver buffers the
data.

greetings,

Mark.
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christophe leroy wrote:
> 
> Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote:
> >
> > philb@gnu.org writes:
> > > >  Enabling bus-master transmits and whole-frame receives.
> > > >PCI: master abort pc=C00A668C
> > > >Sending RARP requests..... OK
> > >
> > > I don't expect it's related to your problem but you might like to investigate
> > > that master abort message.  Those shouldn't happen in normal operation unless
> > > something is accessing nonexistent peripherals.
> >
> > You did configure with NWFPE didn't you?
> 
> Yes, I did.
> 
> I'm trying to trace the problem.
> In do_execve(), it never returns from the first copy_strings()
> 
> christophe

Oh, by adding printk()s to function copy strings, it goes
further. I suspect that printk is not synchronous.
Is there a way to be sure that a printk as be written to 
the serial port before continuing.

Christophe
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I'm writing a guide to building the toolchain; effectively a
`Supercedes:' for pb's `arm-tools.html'.  If anyone else is doing
this, tell me quick. ;-)

-- 
Chris <chris@fluff.org>                         ( http://www.fluff.org/chris )

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>I'm writing a guide to building the toolchain; effectively a
>`Supercedes:' for pb's `arm-tools.html'.  If anyone else is doing
>this, tell me quick. ;-)

Cool.  When you're done, let me know and I'll put a link to it on my web page.

p.



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Chris,

Don't forget to look into the work that Zsolt has done:

 http://ssdl-redstone.stanford.edu/~zskiraly/salinux
<http://ssdl-redstone.stanford.edu/~zskiraly/salinux> 


Jason

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	`Supercedes:' for pb's `arm-tools.html'.  If anyone else is doing
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>Here is the source code, build script and binary for tsh (trivial
>shell) that we've used to bootstrap Linux-arm on CATS.  The trick

Out of interest, why did you want to use this rather than a binary 
distribution of a standard shell?

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Nicholas Clark said:
> > It is arm-linux.  That is the path to my special ELF tools which are
> > based on the (so far not proven wrong) GCC 2.7.2.2 and binutils-2.8
> > toolchain I have here.  This toolchain is not binary compatable with
> 
> Now, might this explain why Russell can build a 2.2.1 kernel that will
> load on my RiscPC, when I can't ?

It's possible, but I wouldn't recommend anyone trying to get GCC 2.7.2.2
and binutils 2.8 going for ELF - I'd recommend trying to find out why
GCC/EGCS & Binutils 2.9 don't work.

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Hallo!

Here is the source code, build script and binary for tsh (trivial
shell) that we've used to bootstrap Linux-arm on CATS.  The trick
is to make something that requires only very primitive support from
the library.  It should be possible to get the nine object files
from glibc to compile if you've got egcs working.

For this to compile, you need the following files:

tsh.c mk          -- included in this archive

_exit.o exit.o    -- from glibc
read.o write.o
crt1.o fork.o 
wait.o execve.o wait4.o

Tsh does not have much built in; it needs support executables
for almost everything (only cls and exit are built-in).
We found a debian distribution for NetWinder that works
somewhat, and mount that with NFS and BOOTP.

Apologies for posting binaries yet again, but it's really
small...

Good luck,
Frank

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On Fri, Feb 26, 1999 at 05:45:46PM +0000, Russell King wrote:
> Nicholas Clark said:
> > > It is arm-linux.  That is the path to my special ELF tools which are
> > > based on the (so far not proven wrong) GCC 2.7.2.2 and binutils-2.8
> > > toolchain I have here.  This toolchain is not binary compatable with
> > 
> > Now, might this explain why Russell can build a 2.2.1 kernel that will
> > load on my RiscPC, when I can't ?
> 
> It's possible, but I wouldn't recommend anyone trying to get GCC 2.7.2.2
> and binutils 2.8 going for ELF - I'd recommend trying to find out why
> GCC/EGCS & Binutils 2.9 don't work.

... and why it works for philb, but not anyone else!  :-)  I hear egcs
1.1.2 is just out; perhaps I'll update my compiler & binutils to the
latest versions this weekend.

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Hi,

I recently reinstalled Linux. I followed Chris Pringle's instructions for
installing on my A5000, and all is well. I followed the instructions for
LoadMap (exactly as I did last time). The problem is, this time !Linux
does not take me straight to the menu, but says
Error : Out of memory for kernel
I have 128MB ADFS then 64MB root, 64MB home, 600MB usr then some swap
space, so the kenel (/boot/vmlinuz) _is_ accessible by FileCore.

I don't understand what I have changed for this not to work now, as it did
previously. Any ideas anyone?

cheers,

Pete


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dooby writes:
>...
> LoadMap (exactly as I did last time). The problem is, this time !Linux
> does not take me straight to the menu, but says
> Error : Out of memory for kernel
> I have 128MB ADFS then 64MB root, 64MB home, 600MB usr then some swap
> space, so the kenel (/boot/vmlinuz) _is_ accessible by FileCore.

If you're running it under the desktop, it may be that the Next slot is not
large enough, although I thought that the !Run file there took care of that.
Try increasing the Next slot on the task manager to around 1MB.
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The first incomplete cut at my toolchain-building manual is available
to view: <http://inkvine.fluff.org/~chris/arm-tools.html>.

Please note that the `armv2' stuff isn't quite true yet; not until I
finish some patches here.  Oh, and there are other problems it seems...

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>... and why it works for philb, but not anyone else!  :-)

Bah.

>I hear egcs 1.1.2 is just out; 

Only a prerelease thus far, I think.  I don't think 1.1.2 will bring any 
exciting changes for arm-linux people though.

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Hi All,

Just the usual about another kernel release, this time called 2.2.2-rmk1

It contains:

 - various configuration fixes
 - various bits from PB
 - extended support for DRAM video modes on RiscPC
 - fixed decompression code on Acorn platforms
 - fixed 3c59x boomerang and other bus-master capable versions
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> The 3c59x driver does not have any Dcache coherency problems - I've
> been running my 3c592 Vortex card with it for 6 months with no problems
> on my EBSA285.

Your card isnt running in DMA to/from host mode, because its one of the
cards the driver considers crap. With a 3c90x the rules change a bit
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all,

	I've made good progress in porting Linux to a new ARM
system.  Basically I've got the RAMdisk loading and the system
starting to boot from it.  I can see ('cos I hacked the kernel) the
init process come up and load both init and the libc that it's linked
against.   Unfortunately it goes horribly wrong from there.  I'm using
the rpc-root stuff - the latest that I can find which contains a.out
object format images.  What I last tried to do was to have init start
a shell executing shell commands - the really old basic way of booting
a system.   This access violates someplace - pretty hard to tell where.
OK, enough of this, a request.   Does anyone have either a statically
linked sh or a combination of sh and libc that is known good?   I'm
presuming that the root-rpc stuff is good, but I'm beginning to wonder.
Oh, yes I can build some cross tools, but my goal is to get a basic
RAMdisk kernel up and running, then to move to a different processor
(this system has multiple header cards, up to 4).   I'd rather not
faff around with tools if I can help it.

	Enough rambling, all help gratefully received...

Dave
 
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David A Rusling writes:
> OK, enough of this, a request.   Does anyone have either a statically
> linked sh or a combination of sh and libc that is known good?   I'm
> presuming that the root-rpc stuff is good, but I'm beginning to wonder.

The root-rpc stuff is good, and most of the stuff on the first disk is
statically linked.  You may want to try getting the disk image up and
running as is - both the 'init' and the first level installer are both
statically linked.
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>OK, enough of this, a request.   Does anyone have either a statically
>linked sh or a combination of sh and libc that is known good?   I'm

The shell/libc combination on any of the various NetWinder boot images should 
be OK, assuming your cpu can handle ARMv4 instructions.

p.


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I'd just like to report for interest that I've got a nicely
working `armv2-linux' cross-compiler + binutils on my x86
Linux box.  Instructions followed were essentially those on
my page, except without philb's binutils patch, and with a
patch of my own to help binutils recognise `armv2', which you'll
find in my netwinder.org space.

-- 
Chris <chris@fluff.org>                         ( http://www.fluff.org/chris )

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Frank A. Vorstenbosch wrote:
> Tsh does not have much built in; it needs support executables
> for almost everything (only cls and exit are built-in).

BTW, if anybody needs a really primitive shell, you can try my micro shell:
ftp://lrcftp.epfl.ch/pub/people/almesber/psion/ush-2.tar.gz

(No builtins, no variables, no io redirection, no if, while, etc., but if
you type a name, it will try to run that program and even pass it
parameters :-)

It doesn't need any library at all. Those few system calls that it uses it
defines itself. Useful if there isn't really much in you system that works
yet.

As soon as you have libc and such, ash works well. Doesn't even need
floating point.

- Werner

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On Sat, Feb 27, 1999 at 12:40:50PM +0000, Chris Rutter wrote:
> I'd just like to report for interest that I've got a nicely
> working `armv2-linux' cross-compiler + binutils on my x86
> Linux box.

Why do you need a specific armv2 toolchain?  I was under the impression
that an arm-linux toolchain would compile for v2 processors if you pass
it the correct options on the command line.

-- 
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>Why do you need a specific armv2 toolchain?  I was under the impression
>that an arm-linux toolchain would compile for v2 processors if you pass
>it the correct options on the command line.

Not out of the box.  It is indeed possible to generate a toolchain that will 
do both but if your primary system is a v2 machine it makes sense to install 
tools that target that hardware by default.

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Hi All,

Kernel 2.2.2-rmk2 is now on the FTP site:

ftp://ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/armlinux/kernel-sources/v2.2/patch-2.2.2-rmk2.gz

Things fixed include:

 - console colour 3 is now (VT100 compliantly) yellow.
 - kmod works again
 - mouse can be opened more than once without crashing the kernel
   (the cause of the apparant X hang)

There appears to be something strange with the keyboard repeat under X - that is
currently under investigation.  If you find any other problems (at all), mail me.
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Ok, I meant ANSI, not VT100!
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> - kmod works again

Hmm, yes.  I think what's needed is something in flush_thread() to sort things 
out for cases like this.  I'll look into it next week.

p.


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Hello.

I know this must be a FAQ, but has anyone actually managed to install
ARMLinux directly onto an APDL IDEFS drive?

!PartMan seems to be the known problem for this, I've tried the alpha
release, but the "New" menu option is always disabled.

I /could/ resort to installing it onto the original Internal ADFS drive, but
it is only 2.5GB (would that be enough for a heavy usage installation?)

TIA
Jamie.

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Subject: Re: Installing onto IDEFS
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James Stevens writes:
> !PartMan seems to be the known problem for this, I've tried the alpha
> release, but the "New" menu option is always disabled.

AFAIK, the latest alpha PartMan should work on all partition formats
listed on the initial window, except EESOX and Cumana.

IDEFS has been reported to be ok.

As ever, any problems with PartMan should be accompanied by a log file
relevent to the session with PartMan that the problem was noticed.
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In article <199902281427.OAA04743@raistlin.armlinux.org.uk>,
   Russell King - ARM Linux Admin <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> James Stevens writes:
> > !PartMan seems to be the known problem for this, I've tried the alpha
> > release, but the "New" menu option is always disabled.

> AFAIK, the latest alpha PartMan should work on all partition formats listed
> on the initial window, except EESOX and Cumana.

> IDEFS has been reported to be ok.

IDEFS is listed as :

New Part = Yes
Edit Part = Coded
Save Table = Enabled (but the "Save" menu option always seems to be disabled)

> As ever, any problems with PartMan should be accompanied by a log file
> relevent to the session with PartMan that the problem was noticed.

It seems to identify the disc correctly, but I just cannot use the "New"
option.
It is an 8GB harddrive, and I have used the IDEFS formatting program to
reduce it to 5GB, leaving 3GB for Linux.

This is what the main window reports

File System = IDEFS::5
Scheme = ICSIDEFS
Disc Size = 5120MB
Sector Size = 512 bytes
C/H/S = 10403/16/63

This is the only partition that is listed.
Partition = 1
Start = 0
End = 10486799
Size = 5121 MB
Type = Filecore


I hope this info is of use.

Jamie.

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James Stevens writes:
> IDEFS is listed as :
> 
> New Part = Yes
> Edit Part = Coded
> Save Table = Enabled (but the "Save" menu option always seems to be disabled)

That's correct - the save option is disabled because no changes have been
made to the partition table.

> File System = IDEFS::5
> Scheme = ICSIDEFS
> Disc Size = 5120MB
> Sector Size = 512 bytes
> C/H/S = 10403/16/63

Aha!  This is wrong.  It's telling you that you have a 5GB drive, not an
8GB one.  Could you try entering the correct number of cylinders?

You actually have two options on partitioning an IDEFS drive - either use
the ICS/ADPL formatter program to create a couple of extra partitions
and then use PartMan to edit them, or use PartMan from the start (and
tell it the size of the disk).

In general, you should always check the number of cylinders that PartMan
tells you...
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Hi All,

Yes, it's the third release of the kernel this weekend (why 3?  why not 3?)
This may break on some architectures - let me know if it does...

Stuff fixed:
  - insl/outsl/insb/outsb now exported to modules
  - stuff to fix kmod backed out and more correct stuff put in
    (maybe this fixes the random SEGVs some people are seeing with GCC)
  - outswb/inswb gone
  - Acorn-based machines now default to 80x30 display for dummycon
  - ecard bug fixed (causing two kecardd's to be started)

I'm sure that there are other bits...
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Yep, those trying EBSA-110 probably found the stilly mistake.  2.2.2-rmk4
fixes the lack of outsb/insb, thereby allowing it to compile again on this
architecture.

Otherwise, -rmk3 and -rmk4 are identical.
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Building kernel 2.2.1, patched with rmk4 and the latest philb of
about three days ago, I get this:

    /usr/bin/armv2-linux-ld -m elf32arm -Ttext 0x01800000 -o vmlinux head.o misc.o /usr/src/linux-2.2.1-armv2-linux/arch/arm/lib/ll_char_wr.o piggy.o

Now, I'm most definitely setup for an A5000 build (`-mcpu=arm3' is
passed to `armv2-linux-gcc' by the Makefile), so why is the ld 
emulation being set to `elf32arm', not `elf32arm26'?

-- 
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Subject: Re: 2.2.1 kernel build
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Chris Rutter writes:
> Building kernel 2.2.1, patched with rmk4 and the latest philb of
> about three days ago, I get this:
> 
>     /usr/bin/armv2-linux-ld -m elf32arm -Ttext 0x01800000 -o vmlinux head.o misc.o /usr/src/linux-2.2.1-armv2-linux/arch/arm/lib/ll_char_wr.o piggy.o
> 
> Now, I'm most definitely setup for an A5000 build (`-mcpu=arm3' is
> passed to `armv2-linux-gcc' by the Makefile), so why is the ld 
> emulation being set to `elf32arm', not `elf32arm26'?

Sorry, this doesn't qualify for a 2.2.2-rmk5 patch (unless some other stuff
comes in as well).
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>Now, I'm most definitely setup for an A5000 build (`-mcpu=arm3' is
>passed to `armv2-linux-gcc' by the Makefile), so why is the ld 
>emulation being set to `elf32arm', not `elf32arm26'?

This just comes straight out of the Makefile.  The way to fix it properly is 
for the makefile not to call ld directly but to use the gcc driver to do is.  
That said it doesn't actually matter because the elf32arm and elf32arm26 
emulations are so similar.  Either will work.

p.


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