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Upon trying to boot a compressed 2.2.2-rmk2 (on a Risc PC) I get :

Uncompressing Linux...

invalid compressed format (err=2)

 -- System halted


I used egcs-1.1b patched with egcs-1.1b-arm-diff-981004, and
binutils-2.9.1.0.15 patched with binutils-2.9.1.0.15-diff-981027.

A uncompressed 2.2.2-rmk2 crashes before remapping the palette.

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Hi,

I've put a new kernel patch, relative to 2.2.2-rmk4, on ftp.netwinder.org.  
This includes the new and more intelligent scheme for avoiding cache-flushing 
that I mentioned some time ago; kernel threads are always allowed to run with 
whatever pagetables they choose.  The idea is that if you have a user process 
fighting knfsd or kswapd for the CPU, cache flushing should be much reduced.  
For heavy NFS server use this might make a difference to performance.  
Russell, you might care to take a look at the patch and see what you think of 
the implementation.  At the moment kecardd will fall foul of this but it 
should be trivial to stop that from happening.

I hope it will also fix the problem that some people with NetWinders were 
seeing where the last few -philb kernels were failing to boot.  I think gcc 
2.8 was being tickled into producing bad code for some reason.

Finally there's a partial fix for an NWFPE bug that could cause an Oops.

Share and enjoy.

p.


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Nicholas Clark writes:
> In the last mail Timothy Baldwin said:
> > Upon trying to boot a compressed 2.2.2-rmk2 (on a Risc PC) I get :
> 2.2.2-rmk4 on a RiscPC gives
> > Uncompressing Linux...
> > invalid compressed format (err=2)
> err=1
> >  -- System halted
> > I used egcs-1.1b patched with egcs-1.1b-arm-diff-981004, and
> egcs-2.91.60
> > binutils-2.9.1.0.15 patched with binutils-2.9.1.0.15-diff-981027.
> 1999 binutils, mid Jan I think

I am just about to try binutils-2.9.1.0.19a to see how well that works.
There is a side effect to this - I'll be binary-compatible with the rest
of the world again (what was that about cows flying?).
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Russell King - ARM Linux Admin writes:
> Nicholas Clark writes:
> > In the last mail Timothy Baldwin said:
> > > Upon trying to boot a compressed 2.2.2-rmk2 (on a Risc PC) I get :
> > 2.2.2-rmk4 on a RiscPC gives
> > > Uncompressing Linux...
> > > invalid compressed format (err=2)
> > err=1
> > >  -- System halted
> > > I used egcs-1.1b patched with egcs-1.1b-arm-diff-981004, and
> > egcs-2.91.60
> > > binutils-2.9.1.0.15 patched with binutils-2.9.1.0.15-diff-981027.
> > 1999 binutils, mid Jan I think
> 
> I am just about to try binutils-2.9.1.0.19a to see how well that works.
> There is a side effect to this - I'll be binary-compatible with the rest
> of the world again (what was that about cows flying?).

Ok, the results:

binutils-2.9.1.0.19a is acquitted of causing this malevolent behaviour.
Can someone check the behaviour of one of these faulty kernels on
!Linux compiled on the August 29 1998 please?  (when you hit 'Alt',
it should tell you the compilation date).
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Hi, folks!

Anyone working correctly linux on RPC700?
I can boot on RPC700. Kernel version is 2.0.36.
But some binary not working. It is "insmod", "mount" ,
"gcc" . About "insmod" ,"mount",  memory violation occurred.
"gcc", occurred illegal instruction. Another binary , "ls",
"less" working good. 

Why?

-------------------------------
My environment ;
                             byte
libc.so.4.6.27  ....  766093
libm.so.4.6.27 ....  162756
ld.so               .... 131076

insmod    .....         17600
mount    ....          360448
gcc          .....       127146

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Hiroshi Ishii writes:
> Anyone working correctly linux on RPC700?
> I can boot on RPC700. Kernel version is 2.0.36.
> But some binary not working. It is "insmod", "mount" ,
> "gcc" . About "insmod" ,"mount",  memory violation occurred.
> "gcc", occurred illegal instruction. Another binary , "ls",
> "less" working good. 

Have you loaded the FP emulator?
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>When I ping -f to it, it crashes

Does it just stop dead, or is there an error message?

p.


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David A Rusling wrote:
> 
> all,
> 
>         I've made good progress in porting Linux to a new ARM
> system.  Basically I've got the RAMdisk loading and the system
> starting to boot from it.  I can see ('cos I hacked the kernel) the
> init process come up and load both init and the libc that it's linked
> against.   Unfortunately it goes horribly wrong from there.  I'm using
> the rpc-root stuff - the latest that I can find which contains a.out
> object format images.  What I last tried to do was to have init start
> a shell executing shell commands - the really old basic way of booting
> a system.   This access violates someplace - pretty hard to tell where.
> OK, enough of this, a request.   Does anyone have either a statically
> linked sh or a combination of sh and libc that is known good?   I'm
> presuming that the root-rpc stuff is good, but I'm beginning to wonder.
> Oh, yes I can build some cross tools, but my goal is to get a basic
> RAMdisk kernel up and running, then to move to a different processor
> (this system has multiple header cards, up to 4).   I'd rather not
> faff around with tools if I can help it.
> 

I had the same problem with 2.2.1-rmk4
Now, with 2.2.2-rmk4, it works

christophe
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Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Just the usual about another kernel release, this time called 2.2.2-rmk1
> 
> It contains:
> 
>  - various configuration fixes
>  - various bits from PB
>  - extended support for DRAM video modes on RiscPC
>  - fixed decompression code on Acorn platforms
>  - fixed 3c59x boomerang and other bus-master capable versions

I don't know if the fix should have solved my problem, but I still
have to disable D cache to be able to use my 3C905B network card.
I don't have anymore sending problems (bad IP chksum with 2.2.1rmk4)
but It seems to be problems on reception.

Everything works without Dcache

christophe
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I've now a working kernel on my EBSA285

When I ping -f to it, it crashes

christophe
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>I've the following program running as init, and when I ping -f, after
>about 200 packets, my program stops and the kernel doesn't responds to
>pings anymore.

Sounds like all might not be well with the 3com driver still.  I tried flood 
pinging my NetWinder (2.2.2/rmk4/philb990301) and everything seemed ok.

fountain:/home/pb# ping -f pig
PING pig.nexus.co.uk (192.0.0.23): 56 data bytes
....
--- pig.nexus.co.uk ping statistics ---
25280 packets transmitted, 25276 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 0.6/3.3/145.1 ms
fountain:/home/pb#

Is there a later version of 3c59x.c on Becker's web site?  Might be worth 
taking a look.  I had a quick glance at the current version and it looks like 
the consequences of failing to allocate a receive buffer might be bad.  Also 
the DMA cache flushing isn't quite right.  We need to flush the cache 
immediately after allocating the skb, not after it's been filled by the card.  
Otherwise there might be dirty lines sitting in the cache that could in theory 
get evicted on top of the newly-written packet - unlikely but possible.  And I 
think there should be a cache flush at around line 1813 too -- ie just after 
we memcpy the data out of a buffer that's going to be recycled.

Russell, I don't quite understand why ARM systems do better with copybreak set 
to infinity.  Can you explain why that is?

p.


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Philip Blundell wrote:
> 
> >When I ping -f to it, it crashes
> 
> Does it just stop dead, or is there an error message?
> 
> p.

No, no message at all.
I've the following program running as init, and when I ping -f, after
about 200 packets, my program stops and the kernel doesn't responds to
pings anymore.

christophe

#include <stdio.h>
#include <sys/time.h>
#include <fcntl.h>

main()
{
        int t;
        while (1) {
                t=time(0);
                printf("Coucou les amis, il est %s",ctime(&t));
                fflush(stdout);
                sleep(1);
        }
}
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On Tue, 2 Mar 1999, Hiroshi Ishii wrote:

> Hi, folks!
> 
> Anyone working correctly linux on RPC700?
> I can boot on RPC700. Kernel version is 2.0.36.
> But some binary not working. It is "insmod", "mount" ,
> "gcc" . About "insmod" ,"mount",  memory violation occurred.
> "gcc", occurred illegal instruction. Another binary , "ls",
> "less" working good. 
> 

The binaries are not working because fpem.o is not loaded. The link
/lib/modules/misc/fpem.o should point to fpem-4.07.o (or similar).
If this is OK and you have more than 16M of RAM installed, try adding
mem=16M to the command line parameters at bootup.
If it works now, you have to download/install the newer versions of
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At 02:29 PM 3/2/99 +0000, christophe leroy wrote:

>
>I had the same problem with 2.2.1-rmk4
>Now, with 2.2.2-rmk4, it works
>

Thanks Christophe (and others) for the hints.   I had screwed up the abort handling
code.   That's ok (I think).   Now, I'm using a modified ITSY ramdisk (after some fiddling)
that contains a /etc/rc file (executable with #!/bin/sh , echo 'hello cruel world').  I've
hacked init/main.c to do_rc().   However, I see the following error.   Looks to me
like the environment variables are stuffed.  I looked at the bash sources to search
for this error - couldn't find it.   My only thoughts now are that the environment variables
live at virtual address 0x0 and that I've made some mistakes someplace....

RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0
length errorVFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
init(): looking for the root device (ROOT_DEV = 0x100)
        mount_initrd = 0x1, real_root_dev = 0x100
DEBUG: sys_open(/dev/tty1) ...successful
init(): execute_command = 0
Launching kernel thread do_rc
DEBUG: sys_open(/etc/rc) ...successful
do_execve(): /bin/sh
DEBUG: aout: ..A..C..C1..C2..C3..D..EDEBUG: sys_open(/dev/tty) ...failed
DEBUG: sys_open(/dev) ...successful
DEBUG: sys_open(/etc/passwd) ...successful
*ap++ == 0x55*ap++ == 0x55
Report this to bash-maintainers@prep.ai.mit.edu
eport this to bash-maintainers@prep.ai.mit.edu
Stopping myself...topping myself...h-maintainers@prep.ai.mit.edu
abort from 0x1cc80
bort from 0x1cc80
>christophe
> 

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To build bash for arm from a i486,

untar bash (version 2)
./configure --target=linux-arm

Edit Makefile and replace

mksignames:     $(SUPPORT_SRC)mksignames.c
        $(CC) $(CCFLAGS) $(CPPFLAGS) -o $@ $(SUPPORT_SRC)mksignames.c   

by
           
mksignames:     $(SUPPORT_SRC)mksignames.c
        $(CC_FOR_BUILD) $(CCFLAGS) $(CPPFLAGS) -o $@
$(SUPPORT_SRC)mksignames.c              

then 

make CC=arm-linux-gcc CC_FOR_BUILD=gcc AR=arm-linux-ar
RANLIB=arm-linux-ranlib

Christophe
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david.rusling@arm.com writes:
> RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0
> length errorVFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
> init(): looking for the root device (ROOT_DEV = 0x100)
>         mount_initrd = 0x1, real_root_dev = 0x100
> DEBUG: sys_open(/dev/tty1) ...successful
> init(): execute_command = 0
> Launching kernel thread do_rc
> DEBUG: sys_open(/etc/rc) ...successful
> do_execve(): /bin/sh
> DEBUG: aout: ..A..C..C1..C2..C3..D..EDEBUG: sys_open(/dev/tty) ...failed

This is expected.  The process does not have a controlling terminal, and
therefore /dev/tty is not valid.  Use /dev/console or /dev/tty1 instead.
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On Tue, 2 Mar 1999, christophe leroy wrote:

> To build bash for arm from a i486,
> 
> untar bash (version 2)
> ./configure --target=linux-arm
> 
> Edit Makefile and replace
> 
> mksignames:     $(SUPPORT_SRC)mksignames.c
>         $(CC) $(CCFLAGS) $(CPPFLAGS) -o $@ $(SUPPORT_SRC)mksignames.c   
> 
> by
>            
> mksignames:     $(SUPPORT_SRC)mksignames.c
>         $(CC_FOR_BUILD) $(CCFLAGS) $(CPPFLAGS) -o $@
> $(SUPPORT_SRC)mksignames.c              
> 
> then 
> 
> make CC=arm-linux-gcc CC_FOR_BUILD=gcc AR=arm-linux-ar
> RANLIB=arm-linux-ranlib
> 
> Christophe
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Does this bash binary work ??? I hade difficulties building bash natively
with glibc2 because of some trouble with (a)malloc() and free().

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	Where is the code in the linux src to setup and read the hardware
page table structures?

	Cheers Adam

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On Tue, 2 Mar 1999 17:25:08 +0100 (CET)
Stefan Hanske <shanske@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> wrote:

> The binaries are not working because fpem.o is not loaded. The link
> /lib/modules/misc/fpem.o should point to fpem-4.07.o (or similar).

I put it's modules. but "insmod" not working , so can't
load it. Or,  are there another way to load fpem?

> If this is OK and you have more than 16M of RAM installed, try adding
> mem=16M to the command line parameters at bootup.

I try it. But same problem occurred.

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hi

In a similar vain would installation directly onto a SIMTEC IDEFS drive
work ?

would installations be able to access acorn data on a SIMTEC IDEFS acorn
partition irrespective of wether the above worked or not ?

Thanks

On Mon 01 Mar, James Stevens wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> I know this must be a FAQ, but has anyone actually managed to install
> ARMLinux directly onto an APDL IDEFS drive?
> 
> !PartMan seems to be the known problem for this, I've tried the alpha
> release, but the "New" menu option is always disabled.
> 
> I /could/ resort to installing it onto the original Internal ADFS drive, but
> it is only 2.5GB (would that be enough for a heavy usage installation?)
> 
> TIA
> Jamie.
> 

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On Wed, 3 Mar 1999, Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins wrote:

> 	Where is the code in the linux src to setup and read the hardware
> page table structures?

In the machine-specific include dir.

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Stefan Hanske wrote:
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> On Tue, 2 Mar 1999, christophe leroy wrote:
> 
> > To build bash for arm from a i486,
> >
> > untar bash (version 2)
> > ./configure --target=linux-arm
> >
> > Edit Makefile and replace
> >
> > mksignames:     $(SUPPORT_SRC)mksignames.c
> >         $(CC) $(CCFLAGS) $(CPPFLAGS) -o $@ $(SUPPORT_SRC)mksignames.c
> >
> > by
> >
> > mksignames:     $(SUPPORT_SRC)mksignames.c
> >         $(CC_FOR_BUILD) $(CCFLAGS) $(CPPFLAGS) -o $@
> > $(SUPPORT_SRC)mksignames.c
> >
> > then
> >
> > make CC=arm-linux-gcc CC_FOR_BUILD=gcc AR=arm-linux-ar
> > RANLIB=arm-linux-ranlib
> >
> > Christophe
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> Does this bash binary work ??? I hade difficulties building bash natively
> with glibc2 because of some trouble with (a)malloc() and free().
> 

I've no tools so I can't test very hard, but at least, I get
a prompt, and I'm able to do things like 
echo *
pwd
cd
.....

glibc is 2.1

Christophe
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Hiroshi Ishii said:
> On Tue, 2 Mar 1999 17:25:08 +0100 (CET)
> Stefan Hanske <shanske@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> wrote:
> > The binaries are not working because fpem.o is not loaded. The link
> > /lib/modules/misc/fpem.o should point to fpem-4.07.o (or similar).
> 
> I put it's modules. but "insmod" not working , so can't
> load it. Or,  are there another way to load fpem?

Why is it not working?  What is the error message?  What command
are you issuing to load it?  What version and where did you get
this insmod from?  And any other relevent questions...

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In message <199903012315.XAA00364@raistlin.armlinux.org.uk>
          Russell King - ARM Linux Admin <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> wrote:

> > Nicholas Clark writes:
> > > In the last mail Timothy Baldwin said:
> > > > Upon trying to boot a compressed 2.2.2-rmk2 (on a Risc PC) I get :
> > > 2.2.2-rmk4 on a RiscPC gives
> > > > Uncompressing Linux...
> > > > invalid compressed format (err=2)
> > > err=1
> > > >  -- System halted
> > > > I used egcs-1.1b patched with egcs-1.1b-arm-diff-981004, and
> > > egcs-2.91.60
> > > > binutils-2.9.1.0.15 patched with binutils-2.9.1.0.15-diff-981027.
> > > 1999 binutils, mid Jan I think

[snip]

> binutils-2.9.1.0.19a is acquitted of causing this malevolent behaviour.

What did you compile binutils-2.9.1.0.19a with, and which library did
you link it against? And which kernel are you running it under?

linux/arch/arm/boot/compressed/piggy.o contains a valid gzip file, but
linux/arch/arm/boot/compressed/vmlinux and linux/arch/arm/boot/zImage do
not, therefore arm-linux-ld is a likely suspect. This is with
binutils-2.9.1.0.19a statically or dynamically linked against
libc 4.6.27, compiled with binutils-2.9.1.0.19a and egcs-2.91.57 19980901
(egcs-1.1 release). I am currently running kernel 2.0.36 patched with

_tmp_145piggy.lnk contains :

SECTIONS { .data : { input_len = .; LONG(input_data_end - input_data) input_data = .; *(.data) input_data_end = .; }}

and the output of make zImg is :

make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.2.2/testcase-5/arch/arm/boot'
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.2.2/testcase-5/arch/arm/boot/compressed'
tmppiggy=_tmp_$$piggy; \
	rm -f $tmppiggy $tmppiggy.gz $tmppiggy.lnk; \
	arm-linux-objcopy -O binary -R .note -R .comment -S /usr/src/linux-2.2.2/testcase-5/vmlinux $tmppiggy; \
	gzip -f -9 < $tmppiggy > $tmppiggy.gz; \
	echo "SECTIONS { .data : { input_len = .; LONG(input_data_end - input_data) input_data = .; *(.data) input_data_end = .; }}" > $tmppiggy.lnk; \
	arm-linux-ld -m elf32arm -r -o piggy.o -b binary $tmppiggy.gz -b elf32-arm -T $tmppiggy.lnk;
arm-linux-ld -m elf32arm -Ttext 0x10008000 -o vmlinux head.o misc.o  ll_char_wr.o font.o piggy.o
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.2.2/testcase-5/arch/arm/boot/compressed'
arm-linux-objcopy -O binary -R .note -R .comment -S compressed/vmlinux zImage
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.2.2/testcase-5/arch/arm/boot'

(final rm removed for testing)

[snip rest]

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I've tried to access the flash using this prog:

fd=open("/dev/mem",O_RDWR);        
ptr=mmap(0,4*1024*1024,PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE,MAP_PRIVATE,fd,0xd8000000);            
printf("%x\n",*ptr);

I get a Bus error and message
do_wp_page: bogus page at address 40103000  (98000000)

What does it mean ?

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christophe leroy wrote:
> 
> I've tried to access the flash using this prog:
> 
> fd=open("/dev/mem",O_RDWR);
> ptr=mmap(0,4*1024*1024,PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE,MAP_PRIVATE,fd,0xd8000000);
> printf("%x\n",*ptr);
> 
> I get a Bus error and message
> do_wp_page: bogus page at address 40103000  (98000000)
> 
> What does it mean ?
> 
> christophe

Ok, corrected with real address 0x41000000 instead of virtual one.
I'm able to read flash, but when I'm triing to write on it,
I get a Bus error and message
do_wp_page: bogus page at address 40103000  (01000000)

Does someone know what it means ?

christophe
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If linux/include/asm-arm/posix_types.h and glibc2.1 <bits/types.h> both want
to define __FD_SET in conflicting ways, which one is the implementation?
Who owns the toes? Who is doing the treading? :-)
And how do I fix it so that things compile (defining __USE_XOPEN is cheating)?

Nick
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In message <199903031645.QAA04148@flirble.org>, Nicholas Clark writes:
>If linux/include/asm-arm/posix_types.h and glibc2.1 <bits/types.h> both want
>to define __FD_SET in conflicting ways, which one is the implementation?

Use the glibc one.  You shouldn't include kernel headers in user programs -- 
that means no <linux/*> or <asm/*> files.

p.


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In the last mail Timothy Baldwin said:

> In message <199903012315.XAA00364@raistlin.armlinux.org.uk>
>           Russell King - ARM Linux Admin <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> 

> [snip]
> 
> > binutils-2.9.1.0.19a is acquitted of causing this malevolent behaviour.
> 
> What did you compile binutils-2.9.1.0.19a with, and which library did
> you link it against? And which kernel are you running it under?
> 
> linux/arch/arm/boot/compressed/piggy.o contains a valid gzip file, but
> linux/arch/arm/boot/compressed/vmlinux and linux/arch/arm/boot/zImage do
> not, therefore arm-linux-ld is a likely suspect. This is with
> binutils-2.9.1.0.19a statically or dynamically linked against
> libc 4.6.27, compiled with binutils-2.9.1.0.19a and egcs-2.91.57 19980901
> (egcs-1.1 release). I am currently running kernel 2.0.36 patched with

I find that vmlinux and zImage contain a valid gzip file around offset
460000 (ish). I've even checked the zImage file I've copied over to
RISC OS and it's still a valid gzip file in there. Howver, bootloader
loads zImage, starts uncompression code which finishes with err=1 at
DEBG("dyn3 "). So somewhere between ADFS and memory my zImage would
appear to be becoming garbled. (dyn3 appears to be after a dynamicly
deflated block has been read and the huffman tree successfully
constructed, so self-decompression code would appear to be finding
some valid gzip data.)

I'm stumped as to how to proceed from here.

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In the last mail Philip Blundell said:
> From pb@nexus.co.uk  Wed Mar  3 17:21:40 1999
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> To: Nicholas Clark <nick@flirble.org>
> cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu
> Subject: Re: __FD_SET 
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>              <199903031645.QAA04148@flirble.org> 
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> In message <199903031645.QAA04148@flirble.org>, Nicholas Clark writes:
> >If linux/include/asm-arm/posix_types.h and glibc2.1 <bits/types.h> both want
> >to define __FD_SET in conflicting ways, which one is the implementation?
> 
> Use the glibc one.  You shouldn't include kernel headers in user programs -- 
> that means no <linux/*> or <asm/*> files.

So the library that I downlaoded that has


#ifdef linux
#include <linux/fs.h>
#include <linux/major.h>
#endif

is a fine example of poor quality programming? 

Nick

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>So the library that I downlaoded that has
>
>
>#ifdef linux
>#include <linux/fs.h>
>#include <linux/major.h>
>#endif
>
>is a fine example of poor quality programming? 

That's a slightly harsh way to describe it, but very probably yes.  In some 
cases using <linux/*> headers was the only way to achieve a particular purpose 
but for the most part they were used in error.

p.


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Nicholas.Clark@liverpool.ac.uk writes:
> I still can't get !Linux to recognise my hda3 (`ADFS' is not a filesystem)
> Is there something that willy didn't set it up to mark it bootable?

Ok, here is the mechanism that !Linux uses to detect whether or not the filesystem
is valid.  (it is the same as PartMan in fact).

1. Validate name, and split out filesystem, drive and partition number
   It should be: *ADFS::4.3 for /dev/hda3

2. It then passes 'ADFS::4' to the partition library (same library as used in PartMan)

3. The partition library splits ADFS::4 into 'ADFS' and '4'

4. It then tries to look up the number of the ADFS_DescribeDisc SWI.  If this
   fails, then it will complain about invalid filesystem.

5. If ADFS_DescribeDisc on the drive name fails, then this will also cause a
   similar message.

And that's about it.  Did you say that PartMan does correctly identify this disk?

> And then it hangs with a small pattern of cyan and red pixels near the bottom
> left of the screen.

No idea what this is.  Does it always appear in the same positiion?  Does the position
depend on the last known mouse pointer position?

> Slightly further. It means that the object files necessary to gunzip are not
> corrupted by the linker (said files being the ones you supplied, if I understand
> things correctly)
> 
> So what's mangling the branch into the kernel? 

Erm, dunno.
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Nicholas Clark writes:
> I find that vmlinux and zImage contain a valid gzip file around offset
> 460000 (ish). I've even checked the zImage file I've copied over to
> RISC OS and it's still a valid gzip file in there. Howver, bootloader
> loads zImage, starts uncompression code which finishes with err=1 at
> DEBG("dyn3 "). So somewhere between ADFS and memory my zImage would
> appear to be becoming garbled. (dyn3 appears to be after a dynamicly
> deflated block has been read and the huffman tree successfully
> constructed, so self-decompression code would appear to be finding
> some valid gzip data.)

Aha!  Could you upload the zImage to my ftp site incoming dir please?

/pub/armlinux/incoming

Thanks.

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Zsolt,

Were you successful running the ARM-Linux v2.2.1 on Brutus? Your notes on
http://ssdl-redstone.stanford.edu/~zskiraly/salinux/
<http://ssdl-redstone.stanford.edu/~zskiraly/salinux/>  indicate so.

I expanded 'linux-2.2.1.tar.gz', applied 'patch-2.2.1-rmk3.gz' and
'diff-2.2.1-rmk3-np2.gz' patches (in that order), ran 'make config" taking
all defaults (as recommended by Nicolas Pitre) and finally ran 'make'
[successfully].

Then I run 'angelboot' to download 'vmlinux' and 'ramdisk.gz' (your modified
version), run the terminal (minicom) but get absolutely no response. It
looks as though the kernel hangs (tried it with both Angel v1.0 and v1.02).
The Itsy binaries work fine though.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Jason

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Hi Phil,

I built/installed "binutils" and "egcs" for "arm-linuxaout" [aparently]
successfully. Then I ran into problems compiling a "Hello World" application
with 'a.out':

#arm-linuxaout-gcc -v -c hello.c

Reading specs from
/usr/local/arm/lib/gcc-lib/arm-linuxaout/egcs-2.91.60/specs
gcc version egcs-2.91.60 19990113/philb (egcs-1.1.1 release)
 /usr/local/arm/lib/gcc-lib/arm-linuxaout/egcs-2.91.60/cpp -lang-c -v -undef
-D_
_GNUC__=2 -D__GNUC_MINOR__=91 -Dunix -Darm -Dlinux -D__unix__ -D__arm__
-D__linu
x__ -D__unix -D__arm -D__linux -Asystem(unix) -Asystem(posix) -Acpu(arm)
-Amachi
ne(arm) -D__CHAR_UNSIGNED__ -D__ARM_ARCH_2__ -D__APCS_26__ hello.c
/tmp/ccKF3lGx
.i
GNU CPP version egcs-2.91.60 19990113/philb (egcs-1.1.1 release) (ARM
GNU/Linux
with a.out)
#include "..." search starts here:
#include <...> search starts here:
 /usr/local/arm/lib/gcc-lib/arm-linuxaout/egcs-2.91.60/include
 /usr/local/arm/arm-linuxaout/include
End of search list.
hello.c:2: stdio.h: No such file or directory


I noticed that "/usr/local/arm/arm-linuxaout/sys-include" was not created.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Jason
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Phil,

I'm now trying to build GLIBC (a.out) and ran into problems.

I ran ...

#CC=arm-linuxaout-gcc ./configure arm-linuxaout --build=i686-pc-linux-gnu
--prefix=/usr/local/arm/glibc/arm-linuxaout-glibc -enable-add-ons
--with-headers=/home/chagas/linux-2.2.0/linux/include

then...

#make


and these were there errors returned...


make[1]: Entering directory `/home/chagas/glibc/glibc-2.1/nss'
make[1]: *** No rule to make target `../gnu/lib-names.h', needed by
`nsswitch.d'
.  Stop.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/chagas/glibc/glibc-2.1/nss'
make: *** [nss/subdir_lib] Error 2
Any ideas??


Thanks,

Jason
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Hi  "¿ÁÀ»¼®",

This is what you may want to do:

1)	Make sure you also have a "clean" installation with all the tools
and compilers working properly. I started with a "fresh" installation of
RedHat v5.2 on a x86 PC.
2)	Read http://www.tazenda.demon.co.uk/phil/arm-tools.html
<http://www.tazenda.demon.co.uk/phil/arm-tools.html)> ,
http://ssdl-redstone.stanford.edu/~zskiraly/salinux/
<http://ssdl-redstone.stanford.edu/~zskiraly/salinux/>  and
http://inkvine.fluff.org/~chris/arm-tools.html
<http://inkvine.fluff.org/~chris/arm-tools.html> . Print a hard copy of
these pages so you can refer to it as you follow my instructions below.
3)	Expand binutils v2.9.1.0.19a (apply patch
binutils-2.9.1.0.19a-arm-diff-981230.gz), EGCS 1.1.1 (apply patch
egcs-1.1.1-arm-diff-990113.gz) and GLIBC 2.1 (expand add ons -
glibc-linuxthreads-2.1.tar.gz and glibc-crypt-2.0.111.tar.gz).
4)	Build and install BINUTILS, EGCS and GLIBC (GLIBC is optional - if
you make a mistake here your system is hosed). You won't be able to compile
the ARM cross GLIBC if you don't have the latest compilers.
5)	Cleanup BINUTILS, EGCS and GLIBC build directories by running "make
distclean" for each of them. You don't want anything left around that could
affect your "arm-linux" cross build that you're about to start.
6)	Create a destination subdirectory. I put it under "/usr/local/arm".
7)	Now build the BINUTILS. Run './configure --target=arm-linux
--prefix=/usr/local/arm', 'make' and 'make install'.
8)	Add your arm-linux BINUTILS to your path
(PATH=/usr/local/arm/bin:$PATH).
9)	Download one of the latest kernel versions and expand it. I
downloaded Linux v2.2.0 and expanded it under '/home/chagas/linux-2.2.0'.
Also download the ARM patch and apply it (you'll need it later). Now create
symbolic links following Phil Blundell's instructions. I created the
'/usr/local/arm/arm-linux/include' directory, then created 'asm' and 'linux'
symbolic links.
10)	You're now ready to build the EGCS "C" compiler. Under the EGCS
subdirectory run './configure --target=arm-linux --prefix=/usr/local/arm'.
As soon as you hit "enter" you'll see something "Configuring for a
i686-pc-linux-gnu host". Write down that information on a piece of paper.
You may need it later. By the time "configure" finishes running a 'Makefile'
has been created.
11)	Modify 'Makefile' to add -Dinhibit_libc in CFLAGS. I just noticed
that Phillip Blundell removed this requirement from his instructions. I'm
not sure if it matters if you leave it out.
12)	Run 'make -i LANGUAGES=c'
13)	Run 'make -i LANGUAGES=c install'. Your cross "C" compiler is now
built and installed.
14)	If your goal is to build ARM-Linux kernels only you're done. Proceed
if you want to build applications.
15)	You need to make sure you have the latest headers. So go under the
directory where you expanded the kernel (v2.2.0), fix the Makefile with
"ARCH := arm" and "CROSS_COMPILE = /usr/local/arm/bin/arm-linux-". Then ran
"make config" followed by "make zImage". It doesn't not matter if the build
is completely successful. You just want to get the headers. Verify if the
headers were created (search for 'version.h' under /include). It might be a
good idea to modify the symbolic links that were created earlier point them
to these new headers (i.e. ln -s /home/chagas/linux-2.2.0/linux/include/asm
asm  and ln -s /home/chagas/linux-2.2.0/linux/include/linux linux) but it
may not be necessary.
16)	Create a separate subdirectory to receive the built GLIBC libraries.
I created a subdirectory called "/usr/local/arm/glibc/arm-linux-glibc". This
will be your "prefix" when building GLIBC.
17)	Now build GLIBC. Run "CC=arm-linux-gcc ./configure arm-linux
--build=i686-pc-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr/local/arm/glibc/arm-linux-glibc
-enable-add-ons --with-headers=/home/chagas/linux-2.2.0/linux/include". Note
the headers now point to the right place. Your "-build" switch is your host
that I asked you to write on a piece of paper. Run "make" and "make
install". This process can take hours.
18)	You may now want to finish building EGCS to get the C++ compiler
built. Go back to 'egcs' and run "./configure --target=arm-linux
--prefix=/usr/local/arm
--with-headers=/usr/local/arm/glibc/arm-linux-glibc/include
--with-libs=/usr/local/arm/glibc/arm-linux-glibc/lib". Note the 'glibc'
library files got copied when running 'configure'. Run 'make LANGUAGES="c
c++" and 'make LANGUAGES="c c++".
19)	DONE!!!! You now have all the ELF cross development tools for ARM.


Please let me know if these instructions work for you and if you had to
modify them.

Regards,

Jason


	----------
	From:  ¿ÁÀ»¼® [SMTP:esok@hyowon.cc.pusan.ac.kr]
	Sent:  Wednesday, March 03, 1999 7:58 PM
	To:  Chagas, Jason
	Subject:  Re: HELP - Egcs 1.1.1

	Hi...

	I have a question..


	I use brutus.
	and I will compile ARM-linux.
	so, I installed binutils and EGCS and glibc..

	but.. when I install binutils,
	1> tar zxvf binutils-2.9.1.0.19a.tar.gz
	  * I patched binutils.. (using
binutils-2.9.1.0.19a-arm-diff-981230)
	2> - Compile and install binutils-1.9.1.0.19a
	  > ./configure --target=arm-linux --prefix=where_you_want
	  > make
	     errors...
	         ../bfd/.libs/libbfd.a : could not read symbols:
Inout/output error
	         make[1]: *** [size] Error 1
	         make[1]: Leaving directory
'/second/DOWN/binutils/binutils-2.9.1.0.19a/binutils'
	         make: *** [all-binutils] Error2

	hmm..
	I don't know.....  why not..
	help me..

	It is difficult to send my question to mailing list..
	please send me your mail that you sent to mailing list.



	>Tim,
	>
	>Did you find a solution for the problem you described? I followed
	>Christophe's instructions step by step and everything seemed to
work fine
	>(after a few minor ajustments, that is) until I go back to finish
building
	>'EGCS'. That's when it fails with the error:
	>
	>checking whether the C compiler
(/home/chagas/egcs/egcs-1.1.1/gcc/xgcc
	>-B/home/c
	>hagas/egcs/egcs-1.1.1/gcc/ -g -O2 ) works... no
	>configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler
cannot
	>create executables.
	>make: *** [configure-target-libiberty] Error 1
	>
	>Note I tested 'xgcc' and seems to run ok:
	>
	>#./xgcc -v
	>Reading specs from
/usr/local/arm/lib/gcc-lib/arm-linux/egcs-2.91.60/specs
	>gcc version egcs-2.91.60 19990113/philb (egcs-1.1.1 release)
	>
	>Am I missing something?
	>
	>Jason
	>
	>
	> ----------
	> From:  christophe.leroy5@capway.com
	>[SMTP:christophe.leroy5@capway.com]
	> Sent:  Friday, February 19, 1999 3:38 AM
	> To:  Tim Lindquist
	> Cc:  linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu
	> Subject:  Re: HELP - Egcs 1.1.1
	>
	> Let me sum up stages and tell me where it fails, I'll help you
	>
	> - Compile and install binutils-1.9.1.0.19a
	> ./configure --target=arm-linux --prefix=where_you_want
	> make
	> make install
	> - add where_you_want/bin in your PATH
	> - Untar egcs, patch it, find . -name "*.rej"
	> - enter egcs dir, then ./configure --target=arm-linux --
	> prefix=wher_you_want_the_same
	> - modify makefile to add -Dinhibit-libc in CFLAGS
	> - make -i LANGUAGES=c
	> - make -i LANGUAGES=c install
	>
	> compile glibc, with 
	> prefix=/where_you_want_not_the_same_as_above
	> make, make install
	>
	> go back in egcs,
	> ./configure --prefix=same_place_as_first_time --with-
	> headers=/where_you_put_glibc/include --with-
	> libs=/where_you_put_glibc/lib --target=arm-linux
	> make LANGUAGES="c c++" 
	> make LANGUAGES="c c++" install
	>
	> DONE
	>
	> Christophe
	>
	>
	> > 
	> > > I'm having problems building a cross compiler on solaris.
	> > > When running  make, I get:
	> > >
	> > > checking whether the C compiler (arm-linux-gcc -g -O2 )
works...
	>no
	> > > configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C
	>compiler
	> > > cannot create executables.
	> > > gmake: *** [configure-target-libiberty] Error 1
	> > >
	> > > Before I got to this stage, I had the egcs-1.1.1 source,
	> > > and got 3 patch files for it that I applied consecutively:
	> > >
	> > > egcs-1.1.1-prerelease-2-arm-diff-981117.gz
	> > > egcs-1.1.1-prerelease-2-arm-diff-981117-981124
	> > > egcs-1.1.1-prerelease-2-arm-diff-981124-981125
	> > >
	> > > I got the following message during the final patch:
	> > >
	> > > patching file `gcc/f/intdoc.texi'
	> > > Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected!  Assume -R?
[y]
	> > >
	> > > I created an egcs-1.1.1-build dir, and from there ran:
	> > >
	> > >  ../egcs-1.1.1/configure --target=arm-linux
	> > > --prefix=/home/elph/tjl/work/sw/armlinux/
	> > >
	> > > and then ran make.
	> > >
	> > > What am I doing wrong?
	> > 
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>make[1]: Entering directory `/home/chagas/glibc/glibc-2.1/nss'
>make[1]: *** No rule to make target `../gnu/lib-names.h', needed by
>`nsswitch.d'

Jason,

You need to configure with the --enable-static-nss switch.

p.


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Hi,

I had some fun with PartMan and APDL's IDEFS. Have you tried the latest
one?

ftp://ftp.arm.uk.linux.org/pub/armlinux/testing/partman-1.13-alpha12-dev.arc

If the drive's a Samsung 32x, I have had no end of trouble with several
examples of the species both on RiscPC and Win95 machines. This may or may
not be relevant ...

regards

John Joyce


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Hi Folks,

I'm trying to set up linux for a DNARD (Digital Network Appliances
References Design -- what a beautiful name!). It is a network computer,
so I originally thougt it was an EBSA110.
But when I gave the hardware a closer look, it doesn't seem, that that
is the case. :-(
So my question: should linux run on a DNARD? If yes, how should I
configure the kernel? If not, is it possible to get it running on a
DNARD?

Here's the detailed hardware:
CPU: StrongARM SA110
Ethernet: Crystal Semiconductor CS8900 Ethernet Controller 
Busses on the board: 
	VL & ISA: National Semiconductor PT86C7x8 "Sequoia" Core Logic Chip Set 
		Includes an IDE port.
	PCI: VIA Technologies VT82C505 VL to PCI Bus Bridge 
		There are no onboard-components that use the PCI-bus, though.
Video: IGS Technology CyberPro 2010 Video Controller
	The Frame Buffer consists of 2MB of 256Kx16 EDO DRAMs.
Keyboard, Mouse, Floppy, RTC, UARTs, Infrared, Parallel:
	National Semiconductor PC87307VUL "Enhanced Sidewinder Lite"
Firmware: Firmworks (the same, that is used on some of Suns Sparcstations)
Audio: ESS Technology 1887 "AudioDrive Solution" 

Thanks anyone for any help!

Nicky

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I'm searching for documentation of the calling conventions used by
egcs-1.1.1 on ARM. I've looked at the egcs and binutils source but
haven't found anything useful.

I'm particularly interested in the registers that need and need not be
preserved by functions.

TIA

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On Wed, 3 Mar 1999, Chagas, Jason wrote:

> Zsolt,
> 
> Were you successful running the ARM-Linux v2.2.1 on Brutus? Your notes on
> http://ssdl-redstone.stanford.edu/~zskiraly/salinux/
> <http://ssdl-redstone.stanford.edu/~zskiraly/salinux/>  indicate so.
> 
> I expanded 'linux-2.2.1.tar.gz', applied 'patch-2.2.1-rmk3.gz' and
> 'diff-2.2.1-rmk3-np2.gz' patches (in that order), ran 'make config" taking
> all defaults (as recommended by Nicolas Pitre) and finally ran 'make'
> [successfully].

You should have read further ... ;)  You must issue "make Image" and load
linux/arch/arm/boot/Image.  The entry point is also changed from
0xc0008020 to 0xc0008000 in your angelboot config file.


Nicolas Pitre, B. ing.
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Philip Lardner said:
> Partition	Start	End	Size	Type
> 1		0	1209	6MB	Filecore
> 2		12096	12096	0KB	RISCiX Table
> 		12097	831599	400MB	Free
> 		
> Wierd - Where did my partitions go, and where did the RISCiX Table come from?

Could you use the latest alpha PartMan, and if this still happens, could
you forward the debug file to me at rmk@arm.linux.org.uk please?  (same
applies to anyone else having problems with PartMan).

Incidentally, last night I put up a new !PartMan and !Linux that fixes a
problem in the previous releases to do with large disks.  These can be
found via the link on the web site (alpha software) or on the ftp site:

	ftp://ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/armlinux/testing

In general, when you discover a problem with these utilities, please check
the FTP site for a later version.  If the latest version produces the problem,
please forward the debug file to me along with a problem description.

Thanks.

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Mike Crowe said:
> I'm searching for documentation of the calling conventions used by
> egcs-1.1.1 on ARM. I've looked at the egcs and binutils source but
> haven't found anything useful.
> 
> I'm particularly interested in the registers that need and need not be
> preserved by functions.

Briefly (or not so breifly):

  r0 = first argument
  r1 = second argument
  r2 = third argument
  r3 = fourth argument

  r4 - r9 need to be preserved
  r10 = stack limit (APCS) or PIC register
  r11 = frame pointer
  r12 = temporary register (need not preserved, but is
        destroyed over a function call)
  r13 = stack pointer
  r14 = link register (PC for function return)
  r15 = program counter

  fifth and so on arguments can be found on the stack at the point
  when the function is called.

Minimal function entry and exit is:
  ( fp = r11, ip = r12, sp = r13, lr = r14, pc = r15 )

  mov ip, sp
  stmfd sp!, {fp, ip, lr, pc}
  sub fp, ip, #4

  @ r0 = arg1, r1 = arg2, r2 = arg3, r3 = arg4
  @ ldr rd, [fp, #4] will load rd with arg5

  ldmea fp, {fp, sp, pc}

Maximal function entry and exit is:
  ( fp = r11, ip = r12, sp = r13, lr = r14, pc = r15 )

  mov ip, sp
  stmfd sp!, {r4, r5, r6, r7, r8, r9, fp, ip, lr, pc}
  sub fp, ip, #4

  @ r0 = arg1, r1 = arg2, r2 = arg3, r3 = arg4
  @ ldr rd, [fp, #4] will load rd with arg5

  ldmea fp, {r4, r5, r6, r7, r8, r9, fp, sp, pc}

If you wish to do varargs type stuff, then it changes to:

  mov ip, sp
  stmfd sp!, {r0, r1, r2, r3}
  stmfd sp!, {..., fp, ip, lr, pc}
  sub fp, ip, #4 + 4 * 4		@ 4 + sizeof(reg) * number of extra regs

  @ argn is at [fp, #4 + 4 * n]

  ldmea fp, {..., fp, sp, pc}

If you don't require the frame pointer, you can just use
the stack conventionally, but so long as you follow the
register preservation rules.

Also note that the frame pointer is either supposed to
contain either a valid frame pointer or zero at all times.

There are other optimisations that you can do to all of these
such as function epilog optimisation, eg:

  ldmea fp, {..., fp, sp, lr}
  b  function

instead of:

  bl function
  ldmea fp, {..., fp, sp, pc}


Hmm, this has come up before - maybe someone ought to put
this into an FAQ on the subject?

--
Russell King (rmk@milldev.demon.co.uk)

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>I'm searching for documentation of the calling conventions used by
>egcs-1.1.1 on ARM. I've looked at the egcs and binutils source but
>haven't found anything useful.
>
>I'm particularly interested in the registers that need and need not be
>preserved by functions.

I think you can get ABI documentation from ARM's web site; look for APCS or 
ATPCS documents.  At the moment the code GCC produces is pretty much compliant 
with APCS.

Briefly a function can clobber R12 and as many of R0-R3 as are not needed for 
return values.

p.


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	A couple of observations: you don't have to build and install the
latest
	binutils, egcs and glibc as your native tools on the x86 to build
the
	cross-tools. (If you just want to , that is fine. But why compilcate
life ?)
	Mine worked perfectly fine on a Redhat 5.1 default native toolchain.
(Actually,
	it might be a better idea to use the defailt, older toolchain for
native
	stuff.) 

You're right. I think what happened was that an earlier attempt to run GLIBC
"./configure" failed because I didn't call it with "CC=arm-linux-gcc". So I
got back a message saying the compiling tools were too old. I guess it would
have been if it was compiling for x86. I'm attaching my recorded list of
steps to get the ARM cross build going so you can see what happened. Actualy
this list should be a lot longer if I were to list every single detail.


Jason


-------------


Odyssey for Building an ARM Development Environment:


1)	UnTARed 'binutils', applied patch and './configure
--target=arm-linux --prefix=/usr/local/arm', 'make' and 'make install'.
2)	Added '/usr/local/arm/bin' to the path.
3)	Expanded Linux v2.2.0 under '/home/chagas/linux-2.2.0', created
'/usr/local/arm/arm-linux/include' directory and created simbolic 'asm' and
'linux' simbolic links.
4)	UnTARed 'egcs 1.1.1', applied patch and './configure
--target=arm-linux --prefix=/usr/local/arm'.
5)	Modified 'Makefile' to add -Dinhibit_libc in CFLAGS
6)	Ran 'make -i LANGUAGES=c'
7)	Ran 'make -i LANGUAGES=c install'
8)	Create '/usr/local/arm/glibc/arm-linux-glibc' subdirectory to take
the libs.
9)	UnTARed 'glibc' and "add ons".
10)	Ran ./configure --target=arm-linux
--prefix=/usr/local/arm/glibc/arm-linux-glibc -enable-add-ons. 'configure'
complained about old versions of 'gcc' installed by RedHat v5.2.
11)	Installed latest 'binutils' and 'egcs' for x86.
12)	Ran glibc's  './configure --target=arm-linux
--prefix=/usr/local/arm/glibc/arm-linux-glibc -enable-add-ons' again.  It
ran successfully this time.
13)	Ran 'make' and 'make install' successfully.
14)	Went back to 'egcs' and ran './configure --target=arm-linux
--prefix=/usr/local/arm
--with-headers=/usr/local/arm/glibc/arm-linux-glibc/include
--with-libs=/usr/local/arm/glibc/arm-linux-glibc/lib'. It returned the
following errors:

	Created "Makefile" in /home/chagas/egcs/egcs-1.1.1 using "mt-frag"
	conftest.c:0: malformed option `-D inhibit-libc'
	*** The command 'gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -Dinhibit-libc   conftest.c'
failed.
	*** You must set the environment variable CC to a working compiler.

15)	Edited 'Makefile' and removed reference to '-Dinhibit_libc'.
16)	Ran './configure --target=arm-linux --prefix=/usr/local/arm
--with-headers=/usr/local/arm/glibc/arm-linux-glibc/include
--with-libs=/usr/local/arm/glibc/arm-linux-glibc/lib' again.
17)	Ran 'make LANGUAGES="c c++" and got the following errors:

	checking whether the C compiler
(/home/chagas/egcs/egcs-1.1.1/gcc/xgcc -B/home/c
	hagas/egcs/egcs-1.1.1/gcc/ -g -O2 ) works... no
	configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler
cannot create executables.
	make: *** [configure-target-libiberty] Error 1

18)	However, 'xgcc' seems to work fine:

	#./xgcc -v
	Reading specs from
/usr/local/arm/lib/gcc-lib/arm-linux/egcs-2.91.60/specs
	gcc version egcs-2.91.60 19990113/philb (egcs-1.1.1 release)

19)	However,  'glibc' was built for x86 instead of ARM. So I go back to
'glibc', ran "# CC=arm-linux-gcc ./configure arm-linux
--build=i686-pc-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr/local/arm/glibc/arm-linux-glibc
-enable-add-ons --with-headers=/usr/src/linux-2.0.36/include", make and
"make install". Note "-with-headers" switch point to the x86 kernel headers
currently installed the system.
20)	It complained the kernel headers were too old. So I unTARed the
kernel v2.2.0, applied the ARM patch, fixed the Makefile with "ARCH := arm"
and "CROSS_COMPILE = /usr/local/arm/bin/arm-linux-". Then ran "make config"
followed by "make zImage". I verified if the headers were created.
21)	Ran "CC=arm-linux-gcc ./configure arm-linux
--build=i686-pc-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr/local/arm/glibc/arm-linux-glibc
-enable-add-ons --with-headers=/home/chagas/linux-2.2.0/linux/include". Note
the headers now point to the right place. Also ran "make" and "make install"
successfully.
22)	At this point I was able to cross compile and link a "Hello world"
application after copying contents of
"/usr/local/arm/glibc/arm-linux-glibc/lib" to "/usr/local/arm/arm-linux/lib"
23)	I went back to 'egcs' and ran "#./configure --target=arm-linux
--prefix=/usr/local/arm
--with-headers=/usr/local/arm/glibc/arm-linux-glibc/include
--with-libs=/usr/local/arm/glibc/arm-linux-glibc/lib" followed by "make
LANGUAGES="c c++". I noticed the 'glibc' library files got copied when
running 'configure'. These are some of the errors returned:


	/usr/local/arm/arm-linux/sys-include/bits/mathinline.h: In function
`fmodl':
	/usr/local/arm/arm-linux/sys-include/bits/mathinline.h:365: unknown
register nam
	e `ax' in `asm'
	/usr/local/arm/arm-linux/sys-include/bits/mathinline.h: In function
`pow':
	/usr/local/arm/arm-linux/sys-include/bits/mathinline.h:376: unknown
register nam
	e `st(1)' in `asm'
	/usr/local/arm/arm-linux/sys-include/bits/mathinline.h: In function
`powf':
	/usr/local/arm/arm-linux/sys-include/bits/mathinline.h:376: unknown
register nam
	e `st(1)' in `asm'
	/usr/local/arm/arm-linux/sys-include/bits/mathinline.h: In function
`powl':
	/usr/local/arm/arm-linux/sys-include/bits/mathinline.h:376: unknown
register nam
	e `st(1)' in `asm'
	/usr/local/arm/arm-linux/sys-include/bits/mathinline.h: In function
`floatformat
	_to_double':
	/usr/local/arm/arm-linux/sys-include/bits/mathinline.h:495:
inconsistent operand
	 constraints in an `asm'
	/usr/local/arm/arm-linux/sys-include/bits/mathinline.h:495:
inconsistent operand
	 constraints in an `asm'
	make[1]: *** [floatformat.o] Error 1
	make[1]: Leaving directory
`/home/chagas/egcs/egcs-1.1.1/arm-linux/libiberty'
	make: *** [all-target-libiberty] Error 2


24)	Aparently, things were in a unknown state. So I removed everything
(binutils, egcs and glibc) and re-started all the steps from scratch again.
This time I was successful building everything including the EGCS C++
compiler.


	
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I am developing a fbmem driver for an SA-1100 based board and am stuck in
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LCD driver
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Since the video memory is not page aligned, I cannot call remap_page_range
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Hi Russell, Phil,

I figured out why the termios program did not work on the Brutus. It was
not related to termios stuff, rather how chars might not be the same on
the PC as on the brutus.

In this code there is a function (int foo())that returns an int. But the
return value is assigned to a char:

char c;
c = foo();

if (c >= 0) 

The arm-linux-gcc (egcs-1.1.1 with your patch + glibc-2.1) warns me that
this will always be true, due to limited range of the variable. The
native PC compiler (gcc-2.7.2.3, glibc 2.0.7) does not complain. The PC
version works flawlessly, the arm version probably assigns 0 to c.

Later in the code:

if (c < 0)

Same warning (will never be true) with the arm gcc, no warning with the
native gcc.

Workaround:

int temp_c;

temp_c = foo();

c = (char)temp_c; //so I can compare it as a char

if (c >= 0)
.
.
.
if (temp_c < 0) // because c apperantly does not go < 0


So, I guess the gcc-2.7.2.3 does automatic typecasting, the cross-egcs
does not ? And the native char seems to be signed, while the cross-char
unsigned ? I wonder what the ANSI C docs say about this.

Anyway, I thought you might like to know about this. Maybe gcc-2.7 is
out of spec, I don't know.

The code is the robin.c program from Erik Troan's Linux Applications
Development book, and the first warning was line 193, the second at line
220.

After the above modifications the code compiles without errors or
warnings, and runs on the Brutus (yeee!!!!!!!). Also on the PC.

Later,

Zsolt
zskiraly@stanford.edu
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Russel has suggested that I compile the kernel decompression code without
optimistation. For some reason changing the top level CFLAGS (was this the
wrong place to do it) has resulted in the makefile deciding to recompile
everything. Howver, it's spitting out warnings like

gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include  -mapcs-32 -mshort-load-bytes -mcpu=strongarm110 -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes  -pipe   -DEXPORT_SYMTAB -c console.c
{standard input}: Assembler messages:
{standard input}:11238: Warning: destination register same as write-back base

left, right and centre. Such lines look like this:

	1:	ldrbt	r6,[r6],#0

	1:	ldrbt	r4,[r4],#0


I don't recognise the t flag, and I can't remeber what happens with ldr
(ldm, IIRC, does the writeback after the first register load, but all that
might have changed/become undefined with StrongARM) but the instruction as
shown looks very odd - is it a very expensive No-op? Or is it doing something
cunning? Should the #0 be pre-increment instead?
(b.t.w. I get no warnings with -O2, which was what I was using)

Nick
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Phil,

I ran ...

#CC=arm-linuxaout-gcc ./configure arm-linuxaout --build=i686-pc-linux-gnu
--prefix=/usr/local/arm/glibc/arm-linuxaout-glibc -enable-add-ons
--with-headers=/home/chagas/linux-2.2.0/linux/include --enable-static-nss


followed by...


#make


and I still got the same error...


mv -f proto-lookup.T proto-lookup.d
make[1]: *** No rule to make target `../gnu/lib-names.h', needed by
`nsswitch.d'
.  Stop.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/chagas/glibc/glibc-2.1/nss'
make: *** [nss/subdir_lib] Error 2


Any ideas?

Thanks,

Jason



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	Sent:  Thursday, March 04, 1999 5:32 AM
	To:  Chagas, Jason
	Cc:  'linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu'
	Subject:  Re: HELP - GLIBC 2.1 

	>make[1]: Entering directory `/home/chagas/glibc/glibc-2.1/nss'
	>make[1]: *** No rule to make target `../gnu/lib-names.h', needed by
	>`nsswitch.d'

	Jason,

	You need to configure with the --enable-static-nss switch.

	p.
	
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>So, I guess the gcc-2.7.2.3 does automatic typecasting, the cross-egcs
>does not ? And the native char seems to be signed, while the cross-char
>unsigned ? I wonder what the ANSI C docs say about this.

ISO C allows char to be either signed or unsigned by default.  On the ARM it 
is unsigned because zero-extension is so much faster than sign extension.

You can override this with the -fsigned-char option to gcc.  I think RPM does 
this by default.

In the case you quoted the code is at fault and the compiler is correct.  

p.


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Zsolt Kiraly said:
> I figured out why the termios program did not work on the Brutus. It was
> not related to termios stuff, rather how chars might not be the same on
> the PC as on the brutus.
> 
> In this code there is a function (int foo())that returns an int. But the
> return value is assigned to a char:
> 
> char c;
> c = foo();
> 
> if (c >= 0) 
> 
> The arm-linux-gcc (egcs-1.1.1 with your patch + glibc-2.1) warns me that
> this will always be true, due to limited range of the variable. The
> native PC compiler (gcc-2.7.2.3, glibc 2.0.7) does not complain. The PC
> version works flawlessly, the arm version probably assigns 0 to c.

IMHO, this is very bad programming practice.  For example, if you're using
getc(), and you're reading characters from a binary file with the following
code:

  char c;
  do {
     c = getc(file);
     ...
  } while (c != EOF);

What happens if the file contains 0xff?  The variable that is used
to hold the return value of getc, getopt and so forth should always be
an int.  Basically, the problem comes down to a loss of information.
Should you really use a char to old a return value of the size of an
int, and expect to be able to check for values of the int using a char?

> Later in the code:
> 
> if (c < 0)
> 
> Same warning (will never be true) with the arm gcc, no warning with the
> native gcc.
> 
> Workaround:
> 
> int temp_c;
> 
> temp_c = foo();
> 
> c = (char)temp_c; //so I can compare it as a char
> 
> if (c >= 0)

This should also be:
  if (temp_c >= 0)

> .
> .
> .
> if (temp_c < 0) // because c apperantly does not go < 0
> 
> So, I guess the gcc-2.7.2.3 does automatic typecasting, the cross-egcs
> does not ? And the native char seems to be signed, while the cross-char
> unsigned ? I wonder what the ANSI C docs say about this.

The native char is unsigned.  It produces better code to have it
unsigned, since you don't have to have two extra instructions after
every load (to convert the unsigned load to a signed value).

> The code is the robin.c program from Erik Troan's Linux Applications
> Development book, and the first warning was line 193, the second at line
> 220.

Most people don't seem to be aware of this issue, because the PC is
what it is.

> After the above modifications the code compiles without errors or
> warnings, and runs on the Brutus (yeee!!!!!!!). Also on the PC.

I have a lot of patches on my FTP site for various programs which suffer
from this problem.

--
Russell King (rmk@milldev.demon.co.uk)

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Zsolt Kiraly wrote:

> So, I guess the gcc-2.7.2.3 does automatic typecasting, the cross-egcs
> does not ? And the native char seems to be signed, while the cross-char
> unsigned ? I wonder what the ANSI C docs say about this.

ANSI says that the signedness of char is implementation defined.
ARM systems tend to use unsigned char because an ldrb works as a good
unsigned char load; where as if you wanted to sign extend you can only
do that on newer ARMs.

Doesn't gcc have a flag to specify the signedness?

> The code is the robin.c program from Erik Troan's Linux Applications
> Development book, and the first warning was line 193, the second at line
> 220.

Its a bug in the code - he should be using signed char if he intends
to do wacky comparisons with it.

Dave
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>optimistation. For some reason changing the top level CFLAGS (was this the
>wrong place to do it) has resulted in the makefile deciding to recompile
>everything.

That's deliberate.  The makefile tracks the flags for each source file and 
recompiles any whose flags have changed.

>	1:	ldrbt	r6,[r6],#0
>
>I don't recognise the t flag, and I can't remeber what happens with ldr
>(ldm, IIRC, does the writeback after the first register load, but all that
>might have changed/become undefined with StrongARM) but the instruction as
>shown looks very odd - is it a very expensive No-op? Or is it doing something
>cunning? Should the #0 be pre-increment instead?
>(b.t.w. I get no warnings with -O2, which was what I was using)

What the instruction is trying to do is load the word pointed to by R6 and 
store the result back in that same register.  It's not a no-op.  The T flag 
means to do the access as if from user mode; this is probably a get_user call.

Technically the results are UNPREDICTABLE if the two registers are the same.  
I guess get_user needs to tell gcc that the input and output regs mustn't 
overlap.  If you send me a fragment of code that exhibits the problem I'll 
cook up a fix.

p.


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>So my question: should linux run on a DNARD? If yes, how should I
>configure the kernel? If not, is it possible to get it running on a
>DNARD?

I don't believe Linux will run on a DNARD without some modifications.  It 
shouldn't be too hard to arrange, though.  Either the EBSA-110 or EBSA-285 
sources would be a reasonable starting point.

>Ethernet: Crystal Semiconductor CS8900 Ethernet Controller 

I'm not sure if there's a driver for this currently.  You may need to write 
one.

>Video: IGS Technology CyberPro 2010 Video Controller
>	The Frame Buffer consists of 2MB of 256Kx16 EDO DRAMs.

This is probably compatible with the NetWinder graphics system - see the 
cyber2000fb driver.

>Keyboard, Mouse, Floppy, RTC, UARTs, Infrared, Parallel:
>	National Semiconductor PC87307VUL "Enhanced Sidewinder Lite"

Presumably this is a standard ISA-style I/O device.

p.


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> >Ethernet: Crystal Semiconductor CS8900 Ethernet Controller 
> 
> I'm not sure if there's a driver for this currently.  You may need to write 
> one.

There is, written by Russ Nelson.
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This is my third attempt to post this - I think maybe the mail
list was rejecting it because my envelope from address was wrong?
Apologies for any multiple copies that eventually appear.





Ok, so what actually is supposed to be the state of the latest kernels
on a CATS board? Wasn't PhilB working on that some time ago?

In some spare moments, with lots of spare cpu time, We have
successfully cross compiled a toolchain and the kernel, made a boot
header with a pretty logo that even manages to accept command line
arguments and pass them to linux, and it boots ok from a UFS
partition, and successfully nfs mounts the root.

We initally tried the JimPick debian boot image in a tar file, and
that worked fine once we got past the point of everything non-trivial
dying due to lack of floating point. Configure verbose user aborts,
was the solution to finding the problem! However, the nfs root stuff
appears to horribly disagree with dselect or something, and we were
unable to get additional packages to install.

Also working reasonably fine, if one is prepared to create an initial
image by slight amounts of cross architecture fighting with rpm is the
redhat rawhide stuff. So far it doesn't quite allow login, but booting
single user works, and rpm happily installs extra packages. Various
things are missed during the bootup, eg where is fsck.nfs (presumably
a null operation) suppose to come from?

Anyway, what doesn't work is the IDE. :-( On a plain 2.2.1-rmk4 it
detected it ok, and even seemed to work, but was very unstable and
would crash seemingly if one pressed a key while it was running. On
the 2.2.2-rmk4-philb990301 we just tried, it doesn't even detect it,
seemingly whatever configuration we try.

So, is there some secret set of configure options to choose to make
this work? What are they? Or is debugging the ide something that we
would have to do ourselves if we really want it?

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Philip Blundell said:
> >	1:	ldrbt	r6,[r6],#0
>
> Technically the results are UNPREDICTABLE if the two registers are the same.  
> I guess get_user needs to tell gcc that the input and output regs mustn't 
> overlap.  If you send me a fragment of code that exhibits the problem I'll 
> cook up a fix.

This is not illegal, nor unpredictable.  The documentation says that a
post indexed ldr instruction must not have rd the same as rn, except in
one case where it is permitted.  The above is an example of the exact
case when it is allowed.

Hence, it's a bug in binutils to be warning this instruction.

--
Russell King (rmk@milldev.demon.co.uk)


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In message <199903051405.OAA00467@test.sw.milldev.co.uk>, Russell King writes:
>Philip Blundell said:
>> >	1:	ldrbt	r6,[r6],#0
>>
>> Technically the results are UNPREDICTABLE if the two registers are the same.
>
>This is not illegal, nor unpredictable.  The documentation says that a
>post indexed ldr instruction must not have rd the same as rn, except in
>one case where it is permitted.  The above is an example of the exact
>case when it is allowed.

Where is this documented?  The ARM says of LDRBT simply:

Notes	
	Register Rn: 
	Specifies the base register used by <post_indexed_addressing_mode>.
	
	Operand restrictions:
	If the same register is specified for Rd and Rn the results are
	UNPREDICTABLE.

This is on page 3-46.

p.


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> On  4 Mar 99 at 17:27, eric.thomas@ericsson.com wrote:
> > I am developing a fbmem driver for an SA-1100 based board 
> > and am stuck in the fb_mmap
> ...
> > located at the end of the palette area (512 bytes).
> > The fb_mmap function is being called with vma->offset=0 and 
> > the vma->start and vma->end
> ...
> > Since the video memory is not page aligned, I cannot call 
> > remap_page_range to map it
>
>   I know nothing about SA-1100, but is not it possible to set 
> `video_start' (this register does exist on VGA compatibles 
> (to allow virtual scrolling...)) so that first pixel will be 
> present on page boundary? If palette is 512 bytes 
> long, it should be possible for all depths on 4KB machines 
> and for all except 24bpp on 8KB machines (if it is in pixels; 
> if base is in bytes, you should not have any problems).

Thanks, but the 'video_start' on the SA-1100 is fixed at the end
of the palette area.  

However, a quick re-read of the video controller spec and I realized
the palette area only has to be aligned on a 16 byte boundry.  
Modifying the FrameBuffer address so that the start of the
video data area was aligned on a 4k boundry became trivial.  
Simple confusion on my part.

Thanks anyway,
Eric


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>Ok, so what actually is supposed to be the state of the latest kernels
>on a CATS board? Wasn't PhilB working on that some time ago?

I was, yes.  The theory is that the latest kernels with the -philb patches 
should work on the CATS.

>Anyway, what doesn't work is the IDE. :-( On a plain 2.2.1-rmk4 it
>detected it ok, and even seemed to work, but was very unstable and
>would crash seemingly if one pressed a key while it was running. On
>the 2.2.2-rmk4-philb990301 we just tried, it doesn't even detect it,
>seemingly whatever configuration we try.

Groan.  I made a change on philb-990301 which was intended to try to fix 
Neil's problem with the second channel getting the wrong IRQ number.  It 
sounds like this just didn't work (and thinking about it more, what's more 
likely is that a different patch has gotten accidentally backed out at some 
point).

The problem with it crashing randomly is something Neil mentioned too.  I must 
admit I never used the IDE very much, certainly not recently.  My suspicion is 
that the ISA IRQ routines aren't quite right - maybe some of the black 8259 
magic needs to be reinstated.  Unfortunately I don't have a CATS board any 
more so there's not a lot I can do directly to fix it.  If someone would like 
to lend me one for a bit maybe I can do something.

p.


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In the last mail Philip Blundell said:

> In message <199903051405.OAA00467@test.sw.milldev.co.uk>, Russell King writes:
> >Philip Blundell said:
> >> >	1:	ldrbt	r6,[r6],#0
> >>
> >> Technically the results are UNPREDICTABLE if the two registers are the same.
> >
> >This is not illegal, nor unpredictable.  The documentation says that a
> >post indexed ldr instruction must not have rd the same as rn, except in
> >one case where it is permitted.  The above is an example of the exact
> >case when it is allowed.
> 
> Where is this documented?  The ARM says of LDRBT simply:
> 
> Notes	
> 	Register Rn: 
> 	Specifies the base register used by <post_indexed_addressing_mode>.
> 	
> 	Operand restrictions:
> 	If the same register is specified for Rd and Rn the results are
> 	UNPREDICTABLE.
> 
> This is on page 3-46.

It would seem sane for what Russell writes to be true, as I did find some
documentation of the T flag, and it says it only applies for post indexed
addressing (presumably there are 2 bits to encode 4 states:
pre indexed, pre indexed with writeback, post indexed, post indexed with 
address translation) hence post index of 0 is otherwise meaningless.

However, I'm no expert, and even with -O1 can't get an inflatable kernel
(Phil predicted correctly that -O0 doesn't inline functions, hence I got >
1024 lines of link errors)

Nick
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I've successfully managed to compile Lesstif 0.87 under a.out using a
rejigged linker.  It compiled happily, and so do Motif applications linked
with it.  There's one small problem - all the apps I've tried return this
error:

Error: attempt to add non-widget child "DropSiteManager" to parent
"Mosaic" which supports only widgets

According to the people on the Lesstif mailing list, this is because
it's getting a function from libXt instead of Lesstif.  Apart from the
link line library ordering (which doesn't solve this), they say another
possibility is that Lesstif is compiled as static and linking with a
shared libXt.

As the supplied ld doesn't support shared libraries, Lesstif compiles as
static.  However, /usr/X11/lib contains libXt.sa, libXt.so.6, and
libXt.so.6.0.  Does this mean they're all shared?  I thought a.out didn't
support shared libraries?  If so, is there a static libXt available
anywhere?  Is it adapted to ARMLinux - or can I just download the source
and compile a new static version?  Am I just being dense and there's an
obvious way out?

Thanks,
Theo

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Philip Blundell said:
> Where is this documented?  The ARM says of LDRBT simply:
> 
> Notes	
> 	Register Rn: 
> 	Specifies the base register used by <post_indexed_addressing_mode>.
> 	
> 	Operand restrictions:
> 	If the same register is specified for Rd and Rn the results are
> 	UNPREDICTABLE.
> 
> This is on page 3-46.

Well, It'll have to wait until tonight - but I'm sure that there is a
comment in there somewhere, it's just not obvious where.

--
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In message <6c4af0dc48%tim@reinhouse.freeserve.co.uk>
          Timothy Baldwin <tim@reinhouse.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

> linux/arch/arm/boot/compressed/piggy.o contains a valid gzip file, but
> linux/arch/arm/boot/compressed/vmlinux and linux/arch/arm/boot/zImage do
> not, therefore arm-linux-ld is a likely suspect. This is with
> binutils-2.9.1.0.19a statically or dynamically linked against
> libc 4.6.27, compiled with binutils-2.9.1.0.19a and egcs-2.91.57 19980901
> (egcs-1.1 release). I am currently running kernel 2.0.36 patched with
patch-arm-2.0.36-19990109

I recompiled binutils-2.9.1.0.19a with gcc-2.7.2.2-1 and binutils-2.7-1a2
(those are names of RPMs),  Still no luck [1]. I tried with a hacked [2]
Debian installation, no luck again.

I have discovered that ommiting the -Ttext option from the arm-linux-ld
command line results in vmlinux containing a *valid* gzip file, however
there is still no valid gzip file in zImage.

[1] Even under RMK's 2.0.36 compiled at 20 Thu Jan 21 21:23:26.

[2] I installed a few debs by manually extracting the 2nd gzip'd tar file
from the deb file, as dpkg won't work under kernel 2.0.36.

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Ok, I've just traced it some more.

What happens is ide0: Disabled unable to get IRQ 47.

But in irq_init_irq the value of  NR_IRQS that is picked up is 32, presumeably from
include/asm-arm/arch-ebsa285/irqs.h, so things above that never get marked as
valid to claim.

There's also
./include/asm-arm/irq.h:#ifndef NR_IRQS
./include/asm-arm/irq.h:#define NR_IRQS 128


I'll try changing the value in arch-ebsa285/irqs.h

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>As the supplied ld doesn't support shared libraries, Lesstif compiles as
>static.  However, /usr/X11/lib contains libXt.sa, libXt.so.6, and
>libXt.so.6.0.  Does this mean they're all shared?  I thought a.out didn't
>support shared libraries?

Yes.  A .so file is a shared object; .sa is the stub that you link with for 
such an object.

It's possible to support shared libraries with a.out but building them is a 
pretty gruesome process involving the DLL tools.  Glibc has no support for 
this but the old libc4 does.  I think the binutils linker has all the 
necessary bits in to make it work.

p.



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Brian Brunswick said:
> What happens is ide0: Disabled unable to get IRQ 47.
> 
> But in irq_init_irq the value of  NR_IRQS that is picked up is 32, presumeably from
> include/asm-arm/arch-ebsa285/irqs.h, so things above that never get marked as
> valid to claim.
> 
> There's also
> ./include/asm-arm/irq.h:#ifndef NR_IRQS
> ./include/asm-arm/irq.h:#define NR_IRQS 128
> 
> 
> I'll try changing the value in arch-ebsa285/irqs.h

IRQ 47 is invalid on this architecture.  It's probably supposed to be 15
or 31.

--
Russell King (rmk@milldev.demon.co.uk)

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On Fri, 26 Feb 1999, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote:

> dooby writes:
> >...
> > LoadMap (exactly as I did last time). The problem is, this time !Linux
> > does not take me straight to the menu, but says
> > Error : Out of memory for kernel
> > I have 128MB ADFS then 64MB root, 64MB home, 600MB usr then some swap
> > space, so the kenel (/boot/vmlinuz) _is_ accessible by FileCore.
> 
> If you're running it under the desktop, it may be that the Next slot is not
> large enough, although I thought that the !Run file there took care of that.
> Try increasing the Next slot on the task manager to around 1MB.

Erm it's not that, since the next slot is usually at 1.6MB on my computer.
It's not likely to be related to very small (32MB) root partition is it?
Other than that, I haven't changed anything since it worked last Linux
install AFAICS.

Cheers,

Pete

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Brian,

I found the same thing happening with IDE on the CATS. Untarring stuff and
hitting keys sometimes caused the console to hang. Apparently, it might be
an ISA IRQ problem or something like that.

	- Neil



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Phil,

I blew away all GLIBC expanded files and restarted from scratch. Then ran...

#CC=arm-linuxaout-gcc ./configure arm-linuxaout --build=i686-pc-linux-gnu
--prefix=/usr/local/arm/glibc/arm-linuxaout-glibc -enable-add-ons
--with-headers=/home/chagas/linux-2.2.0/linux/include --enable-static-nss

#make

and got the following errors:

a - dbm.o
a - db185.o
: libdb.a
arm-linuxaout-gcc -nostdlib -nostartfiles -o makedb     ../csu/crt0.o
makedb.o
 libdb.a  ../libc.a  -lgcc ../libc.a
/usr/local/arm/lib/gcc-lib/arm-linuxaout/egcs-2.91.60/libgcc.a(_umodsi3.o)(.
text
+0xa8): undefined reference to `__div0'
/usr/local/arm/lib/gcc-lib/arm-linuxaout/egcs-2.91.60/libgcc.a(_udivsi3.o)(.
text
+0x8c): undefined reference to `__div0'
/usr/local/arm/lib/gcc-lib/arm-linuxaout/egcs-2.91.60/libgcc.a(_divsi3.o)(.t
ext+
0xa4): undefined reference to `__div0'
/usr/local/arm/lib/gcc-lib/arm-linuxaout/egcs-2.91.60/libgcc.a(_modsi3.o)(.t
ext+
0xc4): undefined reference to `__div0'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[1]: *** [makedb] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/chagas/glibc/glibc-2.1/db2'
make: *** [db2/others] Error 2


Any ideas?

Jason

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I've been working with a fbdev for the SA1100-platform,
and during the work I'v stumbled over something that
might be a bug or just me not thinking straight.

I have to modify the declaration of dentry_cache to
become static or it will loose it's value during the boot!

I cannot really pinpoint where it is changed or why,
(every test cycle take about half an hour...)
but someone might tell me why it works if declared static!
(and why this is a bad idea)

/Peter
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Timothy Baldwin said:
> I have discovered that ommiting the -Ttext option from the arm-linux-ld
> command line results in vmlinux containing a *valid* gzip file, however
> there is still no valid gzip file in zImage.

Erm, what?  Which vmlinux?  If you're talking about linux/vmlinux, it
never contains a gzip file.

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dooby said:
> Erm it's not that, since the next slot is usually at 1.6MB on my computer.
> It's not likely to be related to very small (32MB) root partition is it?
> Other than that, I haven't changed anything since it worked last Linux
> install AFAICS.

Since you last mailed, I have uploaded a new alpha !Linux to the ftp
site.  Could you try that and let me know what happens?  Thanks.

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Nico,

I tried to build ARM-Linux v2.0.35 (Brutus) and I got the following error
messages:

In file included from sound_config.h:15,
                 from vidc_synth.c:9:
os.h:37: warning: `TRUE' redefined
/home/chagas/linux-2.0.35/linux/include/asm/arch/cmptblty.h:39: warning:
this is
 the location of the previous definition
make[2]: *** [fastdep] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/home/chagas/linux-2.0.35/linux/arch/arm/drivers/sou
nd'
make[1]: *** [fastdep] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/home/chagas/linux-2.0.35/linux/arch/arm/drivers'
make: *** [dep-files] Error 2


Your notes make reference to some some symbolic links ("Note that some of
the directories (most notably the drivers) should contain symbolic links.
These should be set up before making config."). It was not clear what I
should do here. I seached `/home/chagas/linux-2.0.35/linux/arch/arm/drivers'
with "dir -all" and I see several symbolic links already there...

Am I missing something?


Jason

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Philip Blundell writes:
> Where is this documented?  The ARM says of LDRBT simply:
> 
> Notes	
> 	Register Rn: 
> 	Specifies the base register used by <post_indexed_addressing_mode>.
> 	
> 	Operand restrictions:
> 	If the same register is specified for Rd and Rn the results are
> 	UNPREDICTABLE.
> 
> This is on page 3-46.

Well, indeed the ARM ARM does seem to imply this.  If this is the case, then
IMHO that's another error in the ARM ARM (the ARM ARM has on average one
error per page), since it means any code using this could break between ARM2
or ARM3 processors and ARM6+.  The ARM2 data book says:

'In the case of post-indexed addressing, the write back bit is redundant,
since the old base value can be retained by setting the offset to zero.'

Hence, when specifing an offset of zero, since no writeback is performed,
the result is predictable.  However, the question now is, does this apply
to the later processors?  Have ARM updated their ARM to include this?
Did they purposely remove this?  Or what?
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I'm trying to knock up glibc 2.1 with my armv2-linux toolchain, and
I find a minor problem.

`make' aborts somewhere along the line with a complaint from gcc that
<asm/proc/ptrace.h> doesn't exist: fair enough.

/usr/arm-linux/include/asm/proc is a symlink to `proc-', which,
unsurprisingly, doesn't exist.  What *does* exist in the `asm'
directory are two directories: `proc-armo' and `proc-armv'.  So
I presume `proc' was meant to link to one of those two; but which
one?

I'd put this down to a screw up somewhere in Russell's kernel
makefile... ;-)

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Hi Jason,

> libdb.a  ../libc.a  -lgcc ../libc.a
>/usr/local/arm/lib/gcc-lib/arm-linuxaout/egcs-2.91.60/libgcc.a(_umodsi3.o)(.
>text
>+0xa8): undefined reference to `__div0'

This symbol should be defined in libgcc.a (which is built as part of EGCS).  
Why it's not there, I'm afraid I don't have much of a clue. :-(

p.


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To: "Chagas, Jason" <jason.chagas@intel.com>
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Subject: Re: Problems building ARM-Linux v2.0.35 for Brutus
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On Fri, 5 Mar 1999, Chagas, Jason wrote:

> Nico,
> 
> I tried to build ARM-Linux v2.0.35 (Brutus) and I got the following error
> messages:
> 
> In file included from sound_config.h:15,
>                  from vidc_synth.c:9:
> os.h:37: warning: `TRUE' redefined
> /home/chagas/linux-2.0.35/linux/include/asm/arch/cmptblty.h:39: warning:
> this is
>  the location of the previous definition
> make[2]: *** [fastdep] Error 1
> make[2]: Leaving directory
> `/home/chagas/linux-2.0.35/linux/arch/arm/drivers/sou
> nd'

In 'make config' you should say n to the general sound support question.
The sound driver for Brutus isn't in the sound section yet.

> Your notes make reference to some some symbolic links ("Note that some of
> the directories (most notably the drivers) should contain symbolic links.
> These should be set up before making config."). It was not clear what I
> should do here. I seached `/home/chagas/linux-2.0.35/linux/arch/arm/drivers'
> with "dir -all" and I see several symbolic links already there...

I'm not sure to understand what you say here.  Normally you do 'make
config' and 'make dep'.  The 'make dep' takes care of creating all
required symlinks without you to bother about them.  Some symlinks in
arch/arm/drivers/char for example are there because the corresponding
driver is the same as the one found in drivers/char.  In anyway you
shouldn't have to deal with symlinks, until you're trying to compile glibc
or such.



Nicolas Pitre, B. ing.
nico@cam.org


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>Well, indeed the ARM ARM does seem to imply this.  If this is the case, then
>IMHO that's another error in the ARM ARM (the ARM ARM has on average one
>error per page), since it means any code using this could break between ARM2
>or ARM3 processors and ARM6+.  The ARM2 data book says:

OK.  It wouldn't be the first time that code sequences that were allowed or
even advised in ARM2 times have subsequently been declared to be verboten, of 
course -- the NV condition is an obvious example.  Judging by the fact that 
nobody has reported a problem I assume that current silicon does actually 
execute such an LDRBT as expected even if it isn't required to by the 
architecture specification.

>'In the case of post-indexed addressing, the write back bit is redundant,
>since the old base value can be retained by setting the offset to zero.'

Does it explicitly say that no writeback takes place?  In terms of processor 
architecture it is very different to say that an offset of zero results in no 
writeback, as opposed to that an offset of zero results in the original value 
being written back unchanged.  From the perspective of the system architect I 
can well imagine that making this behaviour unpredictable would be an 
attractive idea.

>to the later processors?  Have ARM updated their ARM to include this?
>Did they purposely remove this?  Or what?

Would you like to talk to ARM Ltd and find out?  I would do so myself but I'm 
out of the country for the next week.  Once we have a definitive answer we can 
fix the kernel or the assembler as appropriate.

p.


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>directory are two directories: `proc-armo' and `proc-armv'.  So
>I presume `proc' was meant to link to one of those two; but which
>one?

`armo' is for 26-bit processors.  `armv' is for 32-bit processors.  Your guess 
is as good as mine as to why they're named the way they are. :-)

These symlinks are supposed to be set up by the makefile.  I think you can end 
up with the `proc-' problem if you don't do a proper `make config' before 
trying to build.

p.


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>IRQ 47 is invalid on this architecture.  It's probably supposed to be 15
>or 31.

The ALi IDE irqs are indeed supposed to be 14 and 15.  At one point they were 
46 and 47 but I can't immediately see where that number is coming from now.

p.


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	> Nico,
	> 
	> I tried to build ARM-Linux v2.0.35 (Brutus) and I got the
following error
	> messages:
	> 
	> In file included from sound_config.h:15,
	>                  from vidc_synth.c:9:
	> os.h:37: warning: `TRUE' redefined
	> /home/chagas/linux-2.0.35/linux/include/asm/arch/cmptblty.h:39:
warning:
	> this is
	>  the location of the previous definition
	> make[2]: *** [fastdep] Error 1
	> make[2]: Leaving directory
	> `/home/chagas/linux-2.0.35/linux/arch/arm/drivers/sou
	> nd'

	In 'make config' you should say n to the general sound support
question.
	The sound driver for Brutus isn't in the sound section yet.


I tried what you suggested but the problem persists. I noticed there is a
problem with script "~/scripts/Configure":


Support for SA1100/UCB-1200 audio (CONFIG_AUDIO_SA1100) [Y/m/n/?] n
Support for SA1100/UCB-1200 mcp common code (CONFIG_MCP_SA1100) [Y/m/n/?] n
scripts/Configure: [: missing `]'


Do you get the same error? Does it make any difference?

Like I said running "make dep" produces the same errors as I described
before. So I ran "make -i dep"  (to ignore all the errors) followed by "make
zImage". I got the following error messages back:



/home/chagas/linux-2.0.35/linux/include/linux/string.h:31: warning:
conflicting
types for built-in function `memcpy'
/home/chagas/linux-2.0.35/linux/include/linux/string.h:34: warning:
conflicting
types for built-in function `memcmp'
binfmt_aout.c: In function `do_load_aout_binary':
binfmt_aout.c:317: `SEGMENT_SIZE' undeclared (first use in this function)
binfmt_aout.c:317: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
binfmt_aout.c:317: for each function it appears in.)
make[2]: *** [binfmt_aout.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/chagas/linux-2.0.35/linux/fs'
make[1]: *** [first_rule] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/chagas/linux-2.0.35/linux/fs'
make: *** [linuxsubdirs] Error 2



Any ideas?

Thanks,

Jason


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Hello,

>From reading the specs on the EBSA, it appears that a quarter VGA display
comes with the system.  Has anyone been able to use this display as the
console for Linux?  Better yet, has anyone run X-Windows on this display?

Thanks for any info

Chuck Carlson



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On Fri, 5 Mar 1999, Chagas, Jason wrote:

> I tried what you suggested but the problem persists. I noticed there is a
> problem with script "~/scripts/Configure":
> 
> 
> Support for SA1100/UCB-1200 audio (CONFIG_AUDIO_SA1100) [Y/m/n/?] n
> Support for SA1100/UCB-1200 mcp common code (CONFIG_MCP_SA1100) [Y/m/n/?] n
> scripts/Configure: [: missing `]'
> 
> 
> Do you get the same error? Does it make any difference?

Yes I get this one... But I don't know where it comes from and didn't try
to spot it since the overall configuration was OK for me anyway.  It
should work for you too.

> Like I said running "make dep" produces the same errors as I described
> before. So I ran "make -i dep"  (to ignore all the errors) followed by "make
> zImage". I got the following error messages back:
> 
> /home/chagas/linux-2.0.35/linux/include/linux/string.h:31: warning:
> conflicting
> types for built-in function `memcpy'
> /home/chagas/linux-2.0.35/linux/include/linux/string.h:34: warning:
> conflicting
> types for built-in function `memcmp'
> binfmt_aout.c: In function `do_load_aout_binary':
> binfmt_aout.c:317: `SEGMENT_SIZE' undeclared (first use in this function)
> binfmt_aout.c:317: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
> binfmt_aout.c:317: for each function it appears in.)
> make[2]: *** [binfmt_aout.o] Error 1
> make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/chagas/linux-2.0.35/linux/fs'
> make[1]: *** [first_rule] Error 2
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/chagas/linux-2.0.35/linux/fs'
> make: *** [linuxsubdirs] Error 2
> 
> Any ideas?

I'm stumped.  You probably did something  wrong somewhere.....
Could you state your exact setup and patch sets?


Nicolas Pitre, B. ing.
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Chuck Carlson writes:
> >From reading the specs on the EBSA, it appears that a quarter VGA display
> comes with the system.  Has anyone been able to use this display as the
> console for Linux?  Better yet, has anyone run X-Windows on this display?

Where did this spec come from?  I've never seen anything which implies this.
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In message <199903051840.SAA00262@test.sw.milldev.co.uk>
          Russell King <rmk@milldev.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Timothy Baldwin said:
> > I have discovered that ommiting the -Ttext option from the arm-linux-ld
> > command line results in vmlinux containing a *valid* gzip file, however
> > there is still no valid gzip file in zImage.
> 
> Erm, what?  Which vmlinux?  If you're talking about linux/vmlinux, it
> never contains a gzip file.

linux/arch/arm/boot/compressed/vmlinux

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Timothy Baldwin writes:
> > Timothy Baldwin said:
> > > I have discovered that ommiting the -Ttext option from the arm-linux-ld
> > > command line results in vmlinux containing a *valid* gzip file, however
> > > there is still no valid gzip file in zImage.
> > 
> > Erm, what?  Which vmlinux?  If you're talking about linux/vmlinux, it
> > never contains a gzip file.
> 
> linux/arch/arm/boot/compressed/vmlinux

Ok, if you do an arm-linux-nm on this, find the address of the following symbols,
eg:

10008000 T _start
10013420 D input_data

Find the offset between input_data and _start, ie 0x10013420 - 0x10008000 = 0xb420

Then, use dd to extract the gzipped data from the zImage, eg:

 dd if=zImage of=zImg.gz bs=1 skip=46112

Using gunzip, gunzip the resulting zImg.gz file.  If the gunzip is successful,
the zImage file contains a valid gzip, else it doesn't.

Try this both with -Ttext and without, however I believe that you will find
in all cases a valid gzip file in there.

I don't believe that there is anything wrong with the binutils, since I'm
now using the same as other people with this problem, and I have none of
these.  I believe that the only tool left to consider is egcs (unless you
can prove otherwise).
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Hello,

Sorry about my original message about the EBSA-285 and LCD.  That board
does not come with an LCD display.  However, the StrongARM SA-1100
Evaluation Board from Intel does come with an LCD display. See:

	http://www.intercast.com/design/strong/techdocs/278174.ht

And overall description of SA-1100:

	http://www.intercast.com/design/strong/sa1100.htm

Does Linux run on this board?  Can the LCD be used as the console?

Thanks,

Chuck Carlson




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Hi,

When compiling an ARMLinux kernel with egcs, many files threw up
errors along the lines of "undefined reference to `.Lxxx'". AIUI,
these are internal labels created by the compiler.

After a bit of investigation (I chose `drivers/char/vt.c' for my
tests) I found that the `-finline' flag provoked these errors. It
would appear that egcs creates a reference to a label at the same time
that it removes the label from another part of the code.

The following files may be of use:

http://www.sandy.force9.co.uk/vt.tar.gz
http://www.sandy.force9.co.uk/vt-no-inline.tar.gz

Both contain `vt.i', `vt.s' and `vt-compile.out'. The first file is
simply with -O2, the second with -O2 -fno-inline.

In the first set of files, the labels .L829 and .L846 are
undefined. They are however, present in the second set.

My system is an `i686-pc-linux-gnu', using a cross compiler configured
for an `arm-linux' target. Using egcs-2.93.09 and binutils 2.9.1.0.21

Please e-mail me if you require further details. I rarely have time to
read the lists at the moment.

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Russell spotted why I can't gunzip() my compressed kernel - I'm
configured for strongarm, which causes gcc to generate LDRH and STRH
instructions, which the RiscPC hardware can't cope with.

So I tried building for 710, (and 610, and 610 with 
no-short-byte-loads) to no avail. I've unplugged my EtherH card, but
that didn't help either.

Apart from LDRH/STRH is there anything that egcs will do that the ART
StrongARM card won't like?

(I had a look at arm.c and arm.h in gcc - erk, it's complex. Am I
right in thinking that currently gcc doesn't attempt to reoder LDR
instructions to try to ensure that the loaded data is not required
next instruction, and hence save a clock cycle on a StrongARM?)

Nick
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On Mon, 1 Mar 1999, Andrew Thomas wrote:
> 
> 3. ---------- <The Big One>
> 
> (suggested to me by Dave Baukus)
> Get the following from rawhide.redhat.com/armv4l/RedHat/RPMS/ (or a mirror)
> (note I pulled a lot of this crap because I want to fix login)
> 
[...]
> libgr-2.0.13-14.armv4l.rpm           util-linux-2.9-8.armv4l.rpm

> rpm -i --nodeps --root /tftpboot/<TARGET_IP> *.rpm
> 
> This will fail to run /sbin/ldconfig - I fix this with the following:
> 
> cp /sbin/ldconfig /tftpboot/<TARGET_IP>
> chroot /tftpboot/<TARGET_IP> /ldconfig
> rm /tftpboot/<TARGET_IP>/ldconfig
> 
> Note that I am running the ***x86*** ldconfig here!
> 
> create the syscons/console (see #2) and then boot the kernel
> with -b (this is essential as mingetty/login is broken) This
> should boot single user.

It's not really that login is broken, it is more along the lines of the
fact that the current arm stuff in the util-linux spec file (from rawhide)
is old.  It goes back to the days when PAM would not build properly.

Either grab the source from my site, or add the /bin/login tools back in
the spec file, when rebuilding util-linux.
	ftp://ftp.nw.carleton.ca/winder/SRPMS/SRPMS/

I've not had any problems with mingetty/login, with my stuff (which is
based off the latest rawhide stuff).

A note on rpm installs with `--nodeps':  Try to avoid using `--nodeps'
the reason being, that when rpm is working properly (not yet, but you
should get the idea) when you use --nodeps rpm does not do some of its
magic.  During a normal install of a bunch of files, rpm will install them
in order to satisfy all dependencies (that's the idea anyway, and it
usually does a pretty good job).

Something else you may want to do if you are not installing on an ARM
machine, would be to add `--noscripts' to the install.  Then once you can
boot into your machine, you can run the scripts.

-Rms
Now if only X would work...  Anyone tried the latest XFree86-3.3.3.1
source rpm from rawhide?  I can now build it...

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On Sat, 6 Mar 1999, Chuck Carlson wrote:

> 
> Hello,
> 
> Sorry about my original message about the EBSA-285 and LCD.  That board
> does not come with an LCD display.  However, the StrongARM SA-1100
> Evaluation Board from Intel does come with an LCD display. See:
> 
> 	http://www.intercast.com/design/strong/techdocs/278174.ht
> 
> And overall description of SA-1100:
> 
> 	http://www.intercast.com/design/strong/sa1100.htm
> 
> Does Linux run on this board?  Can the LCD be used as the console?

Yes.  You'll find a patch for 2.0.35 on ftp.cam.org/users/nico.  There is
also a patch for 2.2.1 but it has no support for Brutus's LCD yet.



Nicolas Pitre, B. ing.
nico@cam.org


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On Fri, 5 Mar 1999, Russell King wrote:

> dooby said:
> > Erm it's not that, since the next slot is usually at 1.6MB on my computer.
> > It's not likely to be related to very small (32MB) root partition is it?
> > Other than that, I haven't changed anything since it worked last Linux
> > install AFAICS.
> 
> Since you last mailed, I have uploaded a new alpha !Linux to the ftp
> site.  Could you try that and let me know what happens?  Thanks.

Still the same error message I'm afraid :-< Any suggestions appreciated...

cheers,

Pete

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Question:  Who should make the device /dev/fb0?  Should I create it?  If I
need to create it, would anyone know the options for mknod? `mknod
/dev/fb0 c X X'  Thanks.

Here is what I have:
a 2.2 kernel
XFree86-3.3.3.1a-20.armv4l.rpm which I don't know if it works, so am
trying to test, but if I go and make X a symlink to XF68_FBDev here is
what I get:

[root@dilgar X11]# startx


XFree86 Version 3.3.3.1 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6300)
Release Date: January 4 1999
        If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer
        than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting
        problems.  (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
Operating System: Linux 2.2.2-1a.rmk4 armv4l [ELF] 
Configured drivers:
   FBDev: Server for frame buffer device
   (Patchlevel 10): mfb, iplan2p2, iplan2p4, iplan2p8, ilbm, afb, cfb8,
cfb16, cfb32
(using VT number 7)

XF86Config: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config
(**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values
(**) XKB: disabled
(**) Mouse: type: BusMouse, device: /dev/mouse, buttons: 3
(**) FBDev: Graphics device ID: "Linux/m68k Frame Buffer Device"
(**) FBDev: Monitor ID: "Generic Monitor"
(**) FontPath set to
"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"

Fatal server error:
open_framebuffer: failed to open /dev/fb0 (No such file or directory)


When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send
the full server output, not just the last messages

X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).
[root@dilgar X11]# 



This X server does have some arm patches, but I'm not certain if it works.
So does anyone know about /dev/fb0, how to create it?

Thanks,
-Rms

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Rod Stewart writes:
> Question:  Who should make the device /dev/fb0?  Should I create it?  If I
> need to create it, would anyone know the options for mknod? `mknod
> /dev/fb0 c X X'  Thanks.

Yes, people who have read linux/Documentation/devices.txt do.  ;)
Here's the ls output of /dev for fb0:

crw-------   1 root     root      29,   0 Jan 31 10:06 /dev/fb0

So you want to do:

	mknod -m 600 /dev/fb0 c 29 0

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Has anyone developed an NT/Unix/Linux device driver that will talk to
the EBSA-285 card via the PCI bus instead of the serial port?
-- 
David Feustel
Fort Wayne, Indiana
219-483-1857

http://www.d-feustel.com
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Richard Atterer writes:
> IMHO egcs really ought to produce 'ldrbt r6,[r6,#0]' instead of
> 'ldrbt r6,[r6],#0'.

However, ldrbt r6,[r6,#0] is not an encodable ARM instruction.
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In the last mail Richard Atterer said:

> In article <199903052103.VAA00581@raistlin.armlinux.org.uk>
>     Russell King - ARM Linux Admin <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> > The ARM2 data book says:
> > 
> > 'In the case of post-indexed addressing, the write back bit is
> > redundant, since the old base value can be retained by setting the
> > offset to zero.'
> > 
> > Hence, when specifing an offset of zero, since no writeback is
> > performed, the result is predictable.  However, the question now is,
> > does this apply to the later processors?  Have ARM updated their ARM
> > to include this? Did they purposely remove this?  Or what?
> 
> I don't read the above quote as
> 
>   "if the offset is 0, no writeback is performed",
>   
> rather as
> 
>   "since 0 is added, it's as if no writeback had taken place".

Hmm. True.
The bit in '' is ambiguous. I'm inclined to agree with Russell, but I'd like to
see the text before it.
 
> Of course, interpretation may vary between processors. ;-) BTW, the RISC
> OS Appendix on ARM assembler also says:
> 
> "A post-indexed LDR|STR where Rm=Rn must not be used (this instruction
> is very difficult for the abort handler to unwind when late aborts are
> configured - which do not prevent base writeback)."
> 
> IMHO egcs really ought to produce 'ldrbt r6,[r6,#0]' instead of
> 'ldrbt r6,[r6],#0'.

Aah, you missed the point of my very brain-dead previous message (which 
enumerated the 4 possible states with 2 bits) - you can only do T with
post-indexed addressing.

Nick
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	Has anyone developed an NT/Unix/Linux device driver that will
	talk to the EBSA-285 card via the PCI bus instead of the serial
	port?

I've written several drivers to talk to the EBSA-285 over PCI from a
linux host.

	1.	Blank ROM programming.
	2.	Booting a kernel on the EBSA
	3.	Networking driver on the host and the EBSA.

Is anyone of these what you are looking for ?

greetings,

Mark.
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RO3.7 limits an adfs drive size to 4(ish) Gb (right ?)....

if I put in a drive more than this limit anything over 4Gb is currently
not accessible to RO but would it be accessible to armlinux ?

just wondering if I can put in say a 6 gig drive and have 4 gig limit
available to RO and 2 gig available to linux for example.

I know you can put bigger drives on ide expansions and partition them up
(i have this) but it does not help for armlinux (needs to be 'adfs'
drive).

-- 
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In the last mail Allen Craig said:
> RO3.7 limits an adfs drive size to 4(ish) Gb (right ?)....

Not sure.

> if I put in a drive more than this limit anything over 4Gb is currently
> not accessible to RO but would it be accessible to armlinux ?
> 
> just wondering if I can put in say a 6 gig drive and have 4 gig limit
> available to RO and 2 gig available to linux for example.
> 
> I know you can put bigger drives on ide expansions and partition them up
> (i have this) but it does not help for armlinux (needs to be 'adfs'
> drive).

I've got an "8.4" GB IDE disk on the internal adfs interface which is

999M  ADFS
1024M root
1024M root (spare)
128M  swap
rest  home

so the internal interface has no problem with obscenely large discs.
As to how much ADFS/FileCore can cope with, dunno. You can only have one logical
ADFS partition per physical disc, so that won't help you.

Nick
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On Sun, 7 Mar 1999, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote:
> Rod Stewart writes:
> > Question:  Who should make the device /dev/fb0?  Should I create it?  If I
> > need to create it, would anyone know the options for mknod? `mknod
> > /dev/fb0 c X X'  Thanks.
> 
> Yes, people who have read linux/Documentation/devices.txt do.  ;)
> Here's the ls output of /dev for fb0:

Ok, I was looking in the wrong spot...  I was looking in
linux/Documentation/fb/framebuffer.txt, on the web pages that refer to it,
but didn't think about devices.txt.  Thank you, X now works...  Well I
don't know how stable it is, but startx and xdm work, which is a start.
This is the last XFree86-3.3.3.1-20.src.rpm from rawhide with patches.

Isn't this pretty:
-Rms

[root@dilgar /dev]# startx


XFree86 Version 3.3.3.1 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6300)
Release Date: January 4 1999
        If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer
        than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting
        problems.  (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
Operating System: Linux 2.2.2-1a.rmk4 armv4l [ELF] 
Configured drivers:
   FBDev: Server for frame buffer device
   (Patchlevel 10): mfb, iplan2p2, iplan2p4, iplan2p8, ilbm, afb, cfb8,
cfb16, cfb32
(using VT number 7)

XF86Config: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config
(**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values
(**) XKB: disabled
(**) Mouse: type: PS/2, device: /dev/mouse, buttons: 3
(**) FBDev: Graphics device ID: "Linux/m68k Frame Buffer Device"
(**) FBDev: Monitor ID: "Generic Monitor"
(**) FontPath set to
"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
(**) FBDev: Using default frame buffer video mode
(--) FBDev: Frame buffer device: Cyber2000
(--) FBDev: Video memory: 2048K @ 0x81000000
(--) FBDev: MMIO regs: 768K @ 0x81800000
(--) FBDev: Type 0 type_aux 0 bits_per_pixel 8
(--) FBDev: Unknown hardware accelerator type 22
(--) FBDev: No driver support for hardware acceleration
(--) FBDev: Using cfb8 driver
 WARNING: You selected Fvwm2 as your window manager, but your installation
 does not appear to be functional. The executable /usr/X11R6/bin/fvwm2 was 
 not found on your system.
RESUMING with TWM...
xinit:  connection to X server lost.

waiting for X server to shut down 

[root@dilgar /dev]# 

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3 looks promising. Since my ESBA card is plugged into my Dell NT machine
chassis, I'd like to be able to send/receive data via the PCI bus instead
of via the  slow serial cable.

Mark van Doesburg wrote:
> 
>         Has anyone developed an NT/Unix/Linux device driver that will
>         talk to the EBSA-285 card via the PCI bus instead of the serial
>         port?
> 
> I've written several drivers to talk to the EBSA-285 over PCI from a
> linux host.
> 
>         1.      Blank ROM programming.
>         2.      Booting a kernel on the EBSA
>         3.      Networking driver on the host and the EBSA.
> 
> Is anyone of these what you are looking for ?
> 
> greetings,
> 
> Mark.
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In message <199903061321.NAA01239@raistlin.armlinux.org.uk>
          Russell King - ARM Linux Admin <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> wrote:

> Timothy Baldwin writes:

[snip]

> > linux/arch/arm/boot/compressed/vmlinux
> 
> Ok, if you do an arm-linux-nm on this, find the address of the
> following symbols, eg:
> 
> 10008000 T _start
> 10013420 D input_data
> 
> Find the offset between input_data and _start, ie 0x10013420 - 0x10008000
> = 0xb420
>
> Then, use dd to extract the gzipped data from the zImage, eg:
> 
>  dd if=zImage of=zImg.gz bs=1 skip=46112
> 
> Using gunzip, gunzip the resulting zImg.gz file.  If the gunzip is
> successful, the zImage file contains a valid gzip, else it doesn't.
> 
> Try this both with -Ttext and without, however I believe that you
> will find in all cases a valid gzip file in there.

You believe correctly. Further investigation shows that IscaFS was
incorrectly reading files written by binutils (but not cp). It seems
my confidence in IscaFS was misplaced, I will be submitting a bug
report.

I recitified this by copying the kernel to RISC OS via a MS-DOS formmated
floppy, however I now get a crc error when trying to boot a compressed
kernel.

BTW, the machine in question is 20M DRAM + 1M VRAM Risc PC with RISC OS 3.7
and an ARM610 processor.

[snip]

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Hello,

OK here are a few questions that have been bothering me for a while;

#1 - Setting up an Ethernet card. How do I do it? It is an i-cubed
EtherLAN600 card running EtherH. Where do I get the module(S) from? Has
anyone got any instructions that are simple?

#2 - Apache server. There is a GUI bit for the Apache server that works in X
Windows to setup the Apache server, it is on the Apache WW site but will it
work under ARMLinux?

#3 - fvwm's. I downloaded a Windows 95 one the other day but I am having some
trouble installing it. I need to find the xdefaults file (where is it
located?) and change some stuff in that but I don't think that this vwm will
work on ARMLinux? Has any got it? It is just called fvwm95. I got it from
http://www.plig.org/xwinman/

#4 - fvwm's (again). Is there a RISC OS vwm? Where can I get it from if so? I
have seen a screenshot of on on the ARMLinux website.

Thanks for any suggestions or help that anyone can give me ...

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Subject: Re: accessing more than 4gig hd ?
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Nicholas Clark writes:
> In the last mail Allen Craig said:
> > just wondering if I can put in say a 6 gig drive and have 4 gig limit
> > available to RO and 2 gig available to linux for example.
> > 
> > I know you can put bigger drives on ide expansions and partition them up
> > (i have this) but it does not help for armlinux (needs to be 'adfs'
> > drive).
> 
> so the internal interface has no problem with obscenely large discs.
> As to how much ADFS/FileCore can cope with, dunno. You can only have one logical
> ADFS partition per physical disc, so that won't help you.

Well, the internal IDE interface consists of nothing more than some decode
logic (to detect when accesses are meant for the hard drive) and some buffers
if I remember correctly.  Therefore, I don't see why you can't attach an
extremely large IDE drive to the internal interface and use it, so long as the
OS you are using can cope.

However, note that you have to be really careful about how you partition the
drive.  If ADFS can only access N GB of the disk, and you're booting a kernel
from within the root filesystem, you must make sure that the whole of the root
filesystem is also within this limit (just like on a PC with an old BIOS you
need to make sure that the whole of the root filesystem is below the 512MB
limit).

However, I'm not saying that any hard drive will work...
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Timothy Baldwin writes:
> I recitified this by copying the kernel to RISC OS via a MS-DOS formmated
> floppy, however I now get a crc error when trying to boot a compressed
> kernel.
> 
> BTW, the machine in question is 20M DRAM + 1M VRAM Risc PC with RISC OS 3.7
> and an ARM610 processor.

I do hope that you didn't compile the kernel for a StrongARM on a RiscPC.
This is a great nono with egcs (since it will generate half-word instructions
which the RiscPC can't cope with).
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In message <ant0717350b07EfE@acraig.ihug.co.nz>
          Allen Craig <acraig@ihug.co.nz> wrote:

> RO3.7 limits an adfs drive size to 4(ish) Gb (right ?)....

AFAIK, the limit is 512Gb.

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	3 looks promising. Since my ESBA card is plugged into my Dell NT
	machine chassis, I'd like to be able to send/receive data via
	the PCI bus instead of via the  slow serial cable.

I can mail you the patches. On the host you need linux-2.2.2 and on the
EBSA-285 you need linux-2.2.2-rmk2. Both kernels must be patched. In
order to get this working you will need to reprogram the flash of the
EBSA-285 to work with the boot driver.

Let me know if you want the patches/drivers/utils and I'll mail them to
you (64kB)

greetings,

Mark.
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In the last mail Timothy Baldwin said:

> In message <199903061321.NAA01239@raistlin.armlinux.org.uk>
>           Russell King - ARM Linux Admin <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> wrote:

> You believe correctly. Further investigation shows that IscaFS was
> incorrectly reading files written by binutils (but not cp). It seems
> my confidence in IscaFS was misplaced, I will be submitting a bug
> report.

Aaargh. I've got (at least) 4 problems, 2 of which are now solved

1: IscaFS didn't understand holey files (binutils makes a zImage with holes
   (parts of file with no disc storage allocated - read as all zeros))
   Phil has fixed this (we think, but)
2: IscaFS still doesn't read the same data for zImage and the result of
   cat zImage; (to remove the holes) - got a problem starting at block 400 ish
   (206th double indirect block, IIRC)

3: egcs was generating LDRH instructions, because it was told I have a
   StrongARM (True, but counterproductive on a RiscPC_)
4: something else is making buggy code, hence my kernel won't boot

> I recitified this by copying the kernel to RISC OS via a MS-DOS formmated
> floppy, however I now get a crc error when trying to boot a compressed
> kernel.

RISC OS seems to be pretty poor when it comes to reading MS-DOG disks.

cat zImage >someotherfile
should do the trick.
Or gzip or zip the zImage, and "uncompress" it on this side of IscaFS, so that
you get the CRC check to verify that it came across intact.

> BTW, the machine in question is 20M DRAM + 1M VRAM Risc PC with RISC OS 3.7
> and an ARM610 processor.

"Very interesting" (why a 610?)

Nick
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Hi folks

Having finally persuaded my x86 machine to cross compile kernels for SA
Riscos
machines, (see below for more info on this)
I can now compile a kernel which at least un-compresses.. there are still

problems though

1. Is the CONFIG_CPU_ARMV4 reqired for SA-RPC machines?.. running
menuconfig
or xconfig and defining as riscos SA machine, I get compilation failing
in
proc-arm6,7.S at lines 77 and 78 with:
Can not represent IMMEDIATE relocation in this object file format (0)

manually editing config so that CONFIG_CPU_ARMV4 = y      permits 
compilation to complete


2. there are worrying assembler type warnings that keep appearing..
typically
such as that the destination register is the same as the writeback base
reg... Is this 
sort of thing actually expected?

3. Is there an easy way to filter just the warnings/errors from the large
quantity of
info flowing past during compilation



cross compiling kernels

to get going I did the following:

base dir is /usr/src

a) Binutils.. with gz and patch files in ./sources/binu19a  (i.e.
binutils-2.9.1.0.19a)
files are binu19a.gz and binutils-p, the relevant patch file for arm use
tar -xzf ./sources/binu*/binu19*
gzip -cd ./sources/binu*/binut* | patch -p0
this creates /usr/src/binutils-2.9.1.0.19a

b) egcs..
as above, in ./sources/egcs   files are (for convenience)
egcs1.1b.gz       the base egcs1.1b archive
egcs11b-111     patch   to get it to egcs-1.1.1
egcs111ad        patch to add arm to egcs-1.1.1
applied as

tar -xzf ./sources/eg*/egcs1.*
gzip -cd ./sources/eg*/egcs11b* | patch -p0
gzip -cd ./sources/eg*/egcs111* | patch -p0

c) the linux kernel.. get this in place and 
make menuconfig, or whatever.
configure it for your arm processor and exit, saving things
then 
make symlinks
 to set up the header links

then 
mkdir ./arm
mkdir ./arm/binu
mkdir ./arm/egcs

then cd ./arm/binu*
type ../../binu*/configure --host=i686-pc-linux --target=arm-linux
--prefix=/usr
make
make install

this will build arm version tools in /usr/bin, all prefixed by arm-linux-

Now the difference.. thanks to chris rutter <chris@fluff.org> suggested
this..
COPY the headers into the egcs arm tree, instead of just linking it...

mkdir /usr/src/arm/egcs/include
cp -a /usr/src/linux/include/arm-asm /usr/src/arm/egcs/include/asm
cp -a /usr/src/linux/include/linux /usr/src/arm/egcs/include/linux

then.. 
cd /usr/src/arm/egcs
./../eg*/configure --host=i6i6-pc-linux --target=arm-linux --prefix=/usr
cd gcc
make LANGUAGES="C"
make LANGUAGES="C" install

this sets up /usr/bin/arm-linux-gcc

and you are ready to compile kernels.. dont forget to edit the linux
kernel Makefile
to set 
CROSS_COMPILE = /usr/bin/arm-linux-
( the default value still has arm-linuxelf-   in it...)




-- 
                      John Ballance
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Suffolk UK IP13 9LL  Tel  44 (0) 1728 621 631, Fax  44 (0) 1728 621 179
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I can't speak for PB's patches, and PB's on holiday.  Hence, the first
thing I suggest is unpatching PB's stuff and trying again.

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In article <E10J3Qg-0003ju-00@kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org> you write:
>>IRQ 47 is invalid on this architecture.  It's probably supposed to be 15
>>or 31.
>
>The ALi IDE irqs are indeed supposed to be 14 and 15.  At one point they were 
>46 and 47 but I can't immediately see where that number is coming from now.
>
>p.
>

Well that explains all the lost irq messages that occurred when I changed
that number. It did manage to read the partition table though!
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In article <E10J2ql-0003ei-00@kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org> you write:
>Hi Jason,
>
>> libdb.a  ../libc.a  -lgcc ../libc.a
>>/usr/local/arm/lib/gcc-lib/arm-linuxaout/egcs-2.91.60/libgcc.a(_umodsi3.o)(.
>>text
>>+0xa8): undefined reference to `__div0'
>
>This symbol should be defined in libgcc.a (which is built as part of EGCS).  
>Why it's not there, I'm afraid I don't have much of a clue. :-(
>
>p.
>
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I think it may be due to not giving the egcs build the soft links into the
linux headers. We had trouble with it too.
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>>>>> "Mark" == Mark van Doesburg <m.j.s.vandoesburg@student.utwente.nl> writes:

 >> 3 looks promising. Since my ESBA card is plugged into my Dell
 >> NT machine chassis, I'd like to be able to send/receive data
 >> via the PCI bus instead of via the slow serial cable.

 Mark> I can mail you the patches. ...

This looks like it would be useful to a number of us... Would it be
possible to find a home for these things on some suitable file server,
and post some links to it where they can be found?  It would be handy
if the ARM-Linux webpages could lead you to this work.

	paul

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Note that I'm looking for an NT-based (not Linux-based) PCI interface to the ESBA285.
How hard would it be to generate an NT PCI interface from the Linux PCI interface?

Paul Koning wrote:
> 
> >>>>> "Mark" == Mark van Doesburg <m.j.s.vandoesburg@student.utwente.nl> writes:
> 
>  >> 3 looks promising. Since my ESBA card is plugged into my Dell
>  >> NT machine chassis, I'd like to be able to send/receive data
>  >> via the PCI bus instead of via the slow serial cable.
> 
>  Mark> I can mail you the patches. ...
> 
> This looks like it would be useful to a number of us... Would it be
> possible to find a home for these things on some suitable file server,
> and post some links to it where they can be found?  It would be handy
> if the ARM-Linux webpages could lead you to this work.
> 
>         paul
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> Note that I'm looking for an NT-based (not Linux-based) PCI interface to the ESBA285.
> How hard would it be to generate an NT PCI interface from the Linux PCI interface?

Probably fairly hard. NT drivers have to look like NTspeak, and unicode and
other horrors. Good luck - you'll need it
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Also on this subject I have chunks of the I2O Linux interface working, and
the I2O target port on the 285, even without a full heap of I2O crap on it
will make a nice message passing (eg network card) interface between
the host and the EBSA card. Probably only a days work to have a "pci0" ;)
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David Feustel wrote:
> 
> Note that I'm looking for an NT-based (not Linux-based) PCI interface to the ESBA285.
> How hard would it be to generate an NT PCI interface from the Linux PCI interface?

It will be hard, as you have to develop a vxd in order
to acces the PCI bus, that you cannot directly access from
user land. 
I think the best thing you can do is put on a floppy a MSDOS, DOS4GW and
FMU.EXE you got on floppies shipped with the EBSA285 card.

Christophe
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	 >> 3 looks promising. Since my ESBA card is plugged into my Dell
	 >> NT machine chassis, I'd like to be able to send/receive data
	 >> via the PCI bus instead of via the slow serial cable.

	 Mark> I can mail you the patches. ...

	This looks like it would be useful to a number of us... Would it be
	possible to find a home for these things on some suitable file server,
	and post some links to it where they can be found?  It would be handy
	if the ARM-Linux webpages could lead you to this work.

This would be very helpfull, are you offering some space ?

greetings,

Mark.
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	Note that I'm looking for an NT-based (not Linux-based) PCI
	interface to the ESBA285.  How hard would it be to generate an
	NT PCI interface from the Linux PCI interface?

I have no idea.

greetings,

Mark.
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	Also on this subject I have chunks of the I2O Linux interface
	working, and the I2O target port on the 285, even without a full
	heap of I2O crap on it will make a nice message passing (eg
	network card) interface between the host and the EBSA card.
	Probably only a days work to have a "pci0" ;)

My networking interface already uses the I2O interface. And networking is
fully functional.

greetings,

Mark.
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> 	Also on this subject I have chunks of the I2O Linux interface
> 	working, and the I2O target port on the 285, even without a full
> 	heap of I2O crap on it will make a nice message passing (eg
> 	network card) interface between the host and the EBSA card.
> 	Probably only a days work to have a "pci0" ;)
> 
> My networking interface already uses the I2O interface. And networking is
> fully functional.

well cool
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>>>>> "Mark" == Mark van Doesburg <m.j.s.vandoesburg@student.utwente.nl> writes:

 Mark> This would be very helpfull, are you offering some space ?

No, unfortunately I don't have any to offer.  I was thinking that the
same place where other ARM-Linux code lives would make a logical
choice.

	paul
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chrisb@sandy.force9.co.uk said:
> When compiling an ARMLinux kernel with egcs, many files threw up
> errors along the lines of "undefined reference to `.Lxxx'". AIUI,
> these are internal labels created by the compiler. 

This was a bug in the new flow analysis code that rth and myself fixed 
over the weekend.

Richard.

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On Fri, 5 Mar 1999, Philip Blundell wrote:

> >As the supplied ld doesn't support shared libraries, Lesstif compiles as
> >static.  However, /usr/X11/lib contains libXt.sa, libXt.so.6, and
> >libXt.so.6.0.  Does this mean they're all shared?  I thought a.out didn't
> >support shared libraries?
> 
> It's possible to support shared libraries with a.out but building them is a 
> pretty gruesome process involving the DLL tools.  Glibc has no support for 
> this but the old libc4 does.  I think the binutils linker has all the 
> necessary bits in to make it work.

OK, thanks.  Looks like I'll have to convince the X makefiles to build a
static libXt - after compiling the 130MB of X source for a couple of days
(on an ARM610 machine), it decided to segfault in the vital place...  I'll
see if I can have another go at some point... 

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According to the Filesystems Supported page, the DOS support provides:

> DOS
> Self explanatory. It allows reading of PC Emulator partitions, and
> MSDOS floppies. For PC Emulator partitions, you must use the loopback
> device.

I can't see anything in the FAQ about this, so can someone explain what
the loopback device is?  There's nothing obvious in /dev, and

mount -t msdos /mnt/adfs/Win95 /mnt/pc

doesn't like the fact that the partition isn't a block device.  I'm
probably being dense here, but what is the correct procedure?  Also, ISTR
that there is some partition table at the start of PC card partitions - if
so, is there any way of calculating the offset that needs to be used, and
how is it used in the mount command? 

Thanks,
Theo 

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Nico,

These are the setup and patch sets I used:

linux-2.0.35.tar.gz
patch-arm-2.0.35.gz
diff-brutus-2.0.35.8.gz

Note I'm also trying to build the kernel with the latest tools (w/ 'a.out'
Binutils 2.9.1.0.19a and Egcs 1.1.1). I can build the kernel but the
binaries "hang" at loading time.

Jason

	----------
	From:  Nicolas Pitre [SMTP:nico@CAM.ORG]
	Sent:  Friday, March 05, 1999 10:03 PM
	To:  Chagas, Jason
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	Subject:  RE: Problems building ARM-Linux v2.0.35 for Brutus

	On Fri, 5 Mar 1999, Chagas, Jason wrote:

	> I tried what you suggested but the problem persists. I noticed
there is a
	> problem with script "~/scripts/Configure":
	> 
	> 
	> Support for SA1100/UCB-1200 audio (CONFIG_AUDIO_SA1100) [Y/m/n/?]
n
	> Support for SA1100/UCB-1200 mcp common code (CONFIG_MCP_SA1100)
[Y/m/n/?] n
	> scripts/Configure: [: missing `]'
	> 
	> 
	> Do you get the same error? Does it make any difference?

	Yes I get this one... But I don't know where it comes from and
didn't try
	to spot it since the overall configuration was OK for me anyway.  It
	should work for you too.

	> Like I said running "make dep" produces the same errors as I
described
	> before. So I ran "make -i dep"  (to ignore all the errors)
followed by "make
	> zImage". I got the following error messages back:
	> 
	> /home/chagas/linux-2.0.35/linux/include/linux/string.h:31:
warning:
	> conflicting
	> types for built-in function `memcpy'
	> /home/chagas/linux-2.0.35/linux/include/linux/string.h:34:
warning:
	> conflicting
	> types for built-in function `memcmp'
	> binfmt_aout.c: In function `do_load_aout_binary':
	> binfmt_aout.c:317: `SEGMENT_SIZE' undeclared (first use in this
function)
	> binfmt_aout.c:317: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only
once
	> binfmt_aout.c:317: for each function it appears in.)
	> make[2]: *** [binfmt_aout.o] Error 1
	> make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/chagas/linux-2.0.35/linux/fs'
	> make[1]: *** [first_rule] Error 2
	> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/chagas/linux-2.0.35/linux/fs'
	> make: *** [linuxsubdirs] Error 2
	> 
	> Any ideas?

	I'm stumped.  You probably did something  wrong somewhere.....
	Could you state your exact setup and patch sets?


	Nicolas Pitre, B. ing.
	nico@cam.org
	
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Nico,

I've been able to build (w/ 'a.out' Binutils 2.9.1.0.19a and Egcs 1.1.1)
both Kernel v2.0.35 and the Itsy Brutus version (v2.0.30) downloaded from
Digital. Both versions seem to start booting ok and  but they suddenly
"hang" right after "**** Turning off console printing ****". These are the
messages that come up on the screen:


FrameBuffer : 0xc008d000, len:81919
Console: colour A-series 53x29x256, 1 virtual console (max 63)
Calibrating delay loop, , ok - 194,15 BogoMIPS
Brutus PCMCIA initialization
Memory: 11320k/16384k available (440k kernel code, 36k reserved, 492k data)
Swansea University Computer Society NET3.035 for Linux 2.0
NET3: Unix domain sockets 0.13 for Linux NET3.035.
Linux version 2.0.35 (root@localhost.localdomain)
(gcc version egcs-2.91.60 19990113/philb (egcs-1.1.1 release)) #3 Mon Mar 8
16:26:27 EST 1999
Starting kswapd v 1.4.2.2
Keyboard driver v1.01
**** Turning off console printing ****


These are the commands I use to load v2.0.35 (Angel 1.02) and Itsy (Angel
1.0) kernels respectively:

angelboot/angelboot -d /dev/ttyS0 -c "9600 8N1" -b 0x8000 -e 0xc0008020 -S
115200 -O ramdisk.gz -B 0x800000 vmlinux-2.0.35

../angelboot/angelboot -d /dev/ttyS0 -c "9600 8N1" -b 0x8000 -e 0x8020 -S
115200 -O ramdisk-itsy.gz -B 0x800000 vmlinux-itsy1

Any ideas?

Jason

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On Mon, 8 Mar 1999, Chagas, Jason wrote:

> Nico,
> 
> These are the setup and patch sets I used:
> 
> linux-2.0.35.tar.gz
> patch-arm-2.0.35.gz
> diff-brutus-2.0.35.8.gz

You better use diff-brutus-2.0.35.9.gz instead of .8 ...  .9 will crash on
you under heavy load or even randomly.

> Note I'm also trying to build the kernel with the latest tools (w/ 'a.out'
> Binutils 2.9.1.0.19a and Egcs 1.1.1). I can build the kernel but the
> binaries "hang" at loading time.

What do you mean by "hang"?  Can you see some startup messages?

BTW: I never was able to build a correct a.out kernel with egcs-1.1.1 but
egcs-1.1.1-pre2 + PhilB patch dated 981223 (or around) worked for me.
With egcs-1.1.1 the kernel build but any user space app will segfault. 


Nicolas Pitre, B. ing.
nico@cam.org


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On Tue, Mar 09, 1999 at 12:19:17AM +0000, Theo Markettos wrote:
> According to the Filesystems Supported page, the DOS support provides:
> 
> > DOS
> > Self explanatory. It allows reading of PC Emulator partitions, and
> > MSDOS floppies. For PC Emulator partitions, you must use the loopback
> > device.
> 
> I can't see anything in the FAQ about this, so can someone explain what
> the loopback device is?  There's nothing obvious in /dev, and
> 
> mount -t msdos /mnt/adfs/Win95 /mnt/pc
> 
> doesn't like the fact that the partition isn't a block device.  I'm
> probably being dense here, but what is the correct procedure?  Also, ISTR
> that there is some partition table at the start of PC card partitions - if
> so, is there any way of calculating the offset that needs to be used, and
> how is it used in the mount command? 

Russell, please add to the FAQ:

In order to access a PC partition, you need to use the loop device with an
offset to skip the partition table.

Example:
	losetup -o 8704 /dev/loop0 /adfs/IDEDisc4/PC/Drive_C
	mount -t msdos /dev/loop0 /dos/c

[I'm not sure if the /dev/loopN entries are created by redhat at installation
 or not.  Can someone check for me and if not, add the following:

First, you need to create the loop devices in /dev.  To do this, run
	/dev/MAKEDEV loop
as root.  This only needs to be done once.
]

-- 
Matthew Wilcox <willy@bofh.ai>
"I decry the current tendency to seek patents on algorithms.  There are
better ways to earn a living than to prevent other people from making use of
one's contributions to computer science."  -- Donald E. Knuth, TAoCP vol 3
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What is the state of linux 2.2.2 on Brutus.
nico's patches only exists for 2.2.1-rmk3

Is there works in progress somewhere or should I begin with
2.2.1-rmk3-np2 ?

And will it be one day included directly in rmk arm patches ?
Do you need someone (me for example) to do some work to
be able to include it in rmk arm patches ?

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bash# tar xvfz linux-2.0.35.tar.gz
bash# patch -p0 < diff-brutus-2.0.35.9
patching file `linux/Makefile'
can't find file to patch at input line 16
Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option?
The text leading up to this was:
--------------------------
|diff -urN ../2.0.35_o/linux/arch/arm/Makefile linux/arch/arm/Makefile
|--- ../2.0.35_o/linux/arch/arm/Makefile        Wed Nov  4 11:46:33 1998
|+++ linux/arch/arm/Makefile    Thu Nov 26 10:41:32 1998
--------------------------
File to patch:


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christophe leroy said:
> What is the state of linux 2.2.2 on Brutus.
> nico's patches only exists for 2.2.1-rmk3
> 
> Is there works in progress somewhere or should I begin with
> 2.2.1-rmk3-np2 ?
> 
> And will it be one day included directly in rmk arm patches ?
> Do you need someone (me for example) to do some work to
> be able to include it in rmk arm patches ?

It would be nice if someone could work towards integrating it cleanly
with my tree.  I look forward to receiving some patches.  Please note
that it's best to send them towards the start of each week, relative
to the latest -rmk patch.

--
Russell King (rmk@milldev.demon.co.uk)


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Nico,

Just a bit more of information... The kernel hangs right after "init: memory
vi". Then it spews an endless string of "*** CONSOLE_ERROR" messages:


...

Starting kswapd v 1.4.2.2

Keyboard driver v1.01

**** Turning off console printing ****

LSB: Done with kbd_init

SA1100 Serial driver version 4.13 with no serial options enabled

tty00 at 0xf8050000 (irq = 17) is a SA1100 UART

Ramdisk driver initialized : 16 ramdisks of 16384K size

RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0

VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).

init: memory vi

*** CONSOLE_ERROR: console_print entry: vcd->screen.origin: c05227ec,
(c008d200)
*** CONSOLE_ERROR: console_print entry: vcd->screen.origin: c05227ec,
(c008d200)
*** CONSOLE_ERROR: console_print entry: vcd->screen.origin: c05227ec,
(c008d200)
*** CONSOLE_ERROR: console_print entry: vcd->screen.origin: c05227ec,
(c008d200)
....


Note that this I called "angelboot" with the following parameters:

angelboot/angelboot -d /dev/ttyS0 -c "9600 8N1" -b 0x8000 -e 0xc0008000 -S
115200 -O ramdisk.gz -B 0x800000 vmlinux-2.0.35

Any ideas?

Jason



		----------
		From:  Chagas, Jason
		Sent:  Monday, March 08, 1999 8:14 PM
		To:  'Nicolas Pitre'
		Cc:  'linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu'; Chagas, Jason
		Subject:  Brutus Linux v2.0.35 hangs

		Nico,

		I've been able to build (w/ 'a.out' Binutils 2.9.1.0.19a and
Egcs 1.1.1) both Kernel v2.0.35 and the Itsy Brutus version (v2.0.30)
downloaded from Digital. Both versions seem to start booting ok and  but
they suddenly "hang" right after "**** Turning off console printing ****".
These are the messages that come up on the screen:


		FrameBuffer : 0xc008d000, len:81919
		Console: colour A-series 53x29x256, 1 virtual console (max
63)
		Calibrating delay loop, , ok - 194,15 BogoMIPS
		Brutus PCMCIA initialization
		Memory: 11320k/16384k available (440k kernel code, 36k
reserved, 492k data)
		Swansea University Computer Society NET3.035 for Linux 2.0
		NET3: Unix domain sockets 0.13 for Linux NET3.035.
		Linux version 2.0.35 (root@localhost.localdomain)
		(gcc version egcs-2.91.60 19990113/philb (egcs-1.1.1
release)) #3 Mon Mar 8 16:26:27 EST 1999
		Starting kswapd v 1.4.2.2
		Keyboard driver v1.01
		**** Turning off console printing ****


		These are the commands I use to load v2.0.35 (Angel 1.02)
and Itsy (Angel 1.0) kernels respectively:

		angelboot/angelboot -d /dev/ttyS0 -c "9600 8N1" -b 0x8000 -e
0xc0008020 -S 115200 -O ramdisk.gz -B 0x800000 vmlinux-2.0.35

		../angelboot/angelboot -d /dev/ttyS0 -c "9600 8N1" -b 0x8000
-e 0x8020 -S 115200 -O ramdisk-itsy.gz -B 0x800000 vmlinux-itsy1

		Any ideas?

		Jason
		
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Chagas, Jason writes:
> Just a bit more of information... The kernel hangs right after "init: memory
> vi". Then it spews an endless string of "*** CONSOLE_ERROR" messages:

Aha!  I recognise that as one of my checks in my old console code!

> Starting kswapd v 1.4.2.2
> Keyboard driver v1.01
> **** Turning off console printing ****
> LSB: Done with kbd_init
> SA1100 Serial driver version 4.13 with no serial options enabled
> tty00 at 0xf8050000 (irq = 17) is a SA1100 UART
> Ramdisk driver initialized : 16 ramdisks of 16384K size
> RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0
> VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
> init: memory vi
> *** CONSOLE_ERROR: console_print entry: vcd->screen.origin: c05227ec, (c008d200)
> *** CONSOLE_ERROR: console_print entry: vcd->screen.origin: c05227ec, (c008d200)
> *** CONSOLE_ERROR: console_print entry: vcd->screen.origin: c05227ec, (c008d200)
> *** CONSOLE_ERROR: console_print entry: vcd->screen.origin: c05227ec, (c008d200)

This can be caused by one of two things - something with big boots trampling
over kernel memory, or something causing a violation of the console code.
Either way, screen.origin contains an invalid address.

Interestingly, this message is not identical to my 2.0.35 message, so  I don't
know what the values refer to, and whether they're wrong, and what they're
supposed to be.
   _____
  |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+-
  |   |        Russell King       linux@arm.linux.org.uk      --- ---
  | | | |  http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/~rmk/armlinux.html    /  /  |
  | +-+-+                                                     --- -+-
  /   |               THE developer of ARM Linux              |+| /|\
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    +-+-+ -------------------------------------------------  /\\\  |
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Jason,

	If you are using egcs-1.1.1 to compile a.out with kernel version
2.0.35, the kernel will always hang at the first init process.  It has
something to do with a change made from the pre-1.1.1 egcs patch to the
current 1.1.1 arm patch.  Either rebuild egcs using the pre-1.1.1 patch or
upgrade your brutus kernel to Nico's 2.2.1-rmk3 version and compile as
elf.

	Or, if you're feeling adventurous you can isolate the changes in
the egcs patches to figure out what breaks it for a.out kernels.  :-)

Chris

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On Tue, 9 Mar 1999, Russell King wrote:

> christophe leroy said:
> > What is the state of linux 2.2.2 on Brutus.
> > nico's patches only exists for 2.2.1-rmk3
> > 
> > Is there works in progress somewhere or should I begin with
> > 2.2.1-rmk3-np2 ?
> > 
> > And will it be one day included directly in rmk arm patches ?
> > Do you need someone (me for example) to do some work to
> > be able to include it in rmk arm patches ?
> 
> It would be nice if someone could work towards integrating it cleanly
> with my tree.  I look forward to receiving some patches.  Please note
> that it's best to send them towards the start of each week, relative
> to the latest -rmk patch.

I'm actually working on it.  If I didn't send Russell anything yet that's
because I don't consider the patch ready yet.

Since Brutus is the reference implementation for the SA1100, I consider
that it needs a working console i.e. keyboard and frame buffer driver
before it is merged in.  And again, since I'm blind or visually impaired
or whatever...  I can't do it (or don't want to do it) by myself.  So if
anybody interested to do it please step on it.  My 2.0.35 had suport for
it so it needs forward porting.

Regarding the SA1100 core patch, I'm working on improving the cache
support and cleaning up everything else.  I also volunteer to merge any
patch I receive.  I currently merged the empeg stuff from Hugo and the
latest Brutus sound driver from Carl (Itsy team).  I also maintain the
SA1100 Victor implementation as this is what my day job is about.  Anybody
out there?

I will release another patch against 2.2.2 soon but still not for Russell
to merge it yet.  In the mean time one can easily apply my 2.2.1-rmk3
patch over a 2.2.2 tree with very few rejects.

To anyone interested into Linux/SA1100 development I suggest subscribing
to the sa1100-linux mailing list through majordomo@pa.dec.com.  Most
SA1100 developers I know about are subscribed there.  This is probably the
best place to ask for any SA1100+Linux questions.


Nicolas Pitre, B. ing.
nico@cam.org



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On Tue, 9 Mar 1999, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote:

> Chagas, Jason writes:
> > Just a bit more of information... The kernel hangs right after "init: memory
> > vi". Then it spews an endless string of "*** CONSOLE_ERROR" messages:
> 
> Aha!  I recognise that as one of my checks in my old console code!
> 
> > Starting kswapd v 1.4.2.2
> > Keyboard driver v1.01
> > **** Turning off console printing ****
> > LSB: Done with kbd_init
> > SA1100 Serial driver version 4.13 with no serial options enabled
> > tty00 at 0xf8050000 (irq = 17) is a SA1100 UART
> > Ramdisk driver initialized : 16 ramdisks of 16384K size
> > RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0
> > VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
> > init: memory vi
> > *** CONSOLE_ERROR: console_print entry: vcd->screen.origin: c05227ec, (c008d200)
> > *** CONSOLE_ERROR: console_print entry: vcd->screen.origin: c05227ec, (c008d200)
> > *** CONSOLE_ERROR: console_print entry: vcd->screen.origin: c05227ec, (c008d200)
> > *** CONSOLE_ERROR: console_print entry: vcd->screen.origin: c05227ec, (c008d200)
> 
> This can be caused by one of two things - something with big boots trampling
> over kernel memory, or something causing a violation of the console code.
> Either way, screen.origin contains an invalid address.

I know that this kernel compiles and runs perfectly for me if compiled
with egcs-1.1.1-pre2 + PhilB patch dated on 19981223 (not sure about the
exact day).  It crashes exacly like above if compiled with egcs-1.1.1.  Of
course we are talking  about egcs configured for arm-linuxaout -- the
arm-linux configured egcs doesn't seem to be affected by what seems to be
an egcs bug.

Solution:  either you use egcs-1.1.1-pre2 with appropriate patches (or
older) or you find out what is the difference between egcs-1.1.1-pre2 and
egcs-1.1.1 that is causing the problem.

Even better you switch to Linux 2.2.2 and contribute to the current patch!
:-)



Nicolas Pitre, B. ing.
nico@cam.org


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>BTW: I never was able to build a correct a.out kernel with egcs-1.1.1 but
egcs-1.1.1-pre2 + PhilB >patch dated 981223 (or around) worked for me.  With
egcs-1.1.1 the kernel build but any user space >app will segfault. 

Where can I get "egcs-1.1.1-pre2" and corresponding PhilB's patch?  I've
already searched the following sites:

ftp://ftp.netwinder.org/users/p/philb/
<ftp://ftp.netwinder.org/users/p/philb/> 
ftp://vger.rutgers.edu/pub/gcc/arm/ <ftp://vger.rutgers.edu/pub/gcc/arm/> 
ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/ <ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/> 
ftp://tsx-11.mit.edu/pub/linux/packages/GCC/
<ftp://tsx-11.mit.edu/pub/linux/packages/GCC/> 
ftp://egcs.cygnus.com/pub/egcs/releases/egcs-1.1.1/
<ftp://egcs.cygnus.com/pub/egcs/releases/egcs-1.1.1/> 
ftp://sourceware.cygnus.com/pub/ <ftp://sourceware.cygnus.com/pub/> 
ftp://ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/armlinux/
<ftp://ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/armlinux/> 
ftp://ftp.cam.org/users/nico <ftp://ftp.cam.org/users/nico> 
ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/linux/ <ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/linux/> 


Thanks,

Jason

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Hi,

As a newbie to armlinux, I need some help please. I am trying to install it
on my second IDE drive without success. If I use v1.11 of Partman it will
save and then successfully read back the partition info on the second hard
drive, a Quantum 3.2GB formatted to 1996MB, but if I use v1.13a although it
will write the partition info, it says it can't read the partition tables.
V1.11 will though. If I ignore this and carry on with the install I get as
far as 'Installation Path' and break out into a command mode and type in the
commands listed in the Paul Vigay installation guide but after I type mknod
/dev/hdb3 b 67 3, I type mke2fs /dev/hdb3 and it falls over with
ext2fs_check_if_mount: No such file or directory determining whether
/dev/hdb3 is mounted. So basically, where have I gone wrong? I'm assuming
it's me at fault - it usually is ;-)

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On Tue, 9 Mar 1999, christophe leroy wrote:

> bash# tar xvfz linux-2.0.35.tar.gz
> bash# patch -p0 < diff-brutus-2.0.35.9

You forgot to apply the 2.0.35 patch from ftp.arm.linux.org.uk before the
Brutus patch.



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On Tue, 9 Mar 1999, Chagas, Jason wrote:

> 
> >BTW: I never was able to build a correct a.out kernel with egcs-1.1.1 but
> egcs-1.1.1-pre2 + PhilB >patch dated 981223 (or around) worked for me.  With
> egcs-1.1.1 the kernel build but any user space >app will segfault. 
> 
> Where can I get "egcs-1.1.1-pre2" and corresponding PhilB's patch?  I've
> already searched the following sites:
[...]

Mmm.. The patch was on Philip's previous FTP site before he switched over
to netwinder.org.  Of course I don't remember what it was.

But for egcs try this:
ftp://egcs.cygnus.com/pub/egcs/snapshots/1998-12-06/egcs-19981206.tar.gz

You might try to use it without Phil's patches as they were mostly for c++
and ELF stuff... and you just want to compile an a.out kernel with it.
I was using egcs snapshots without any patches last summer and the
resulting kernels (a.out) were OK.

For ELF stuff you should use the latest egcs of course.


Nicolas Pitre, B. ing.
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I've used Linux on the x86 platform for almost a year now and, checking 
over the ARM Linux pages, I was glad to see that my network card, an 
EtherH, is finally supported.

Thus, I set to installing the OS on my RiscPC (700 with 2.1Gb HD, 32Mb 
DRAM, 1Mb VRAM).

I've now got to the stage, after partitioning the drive etc, whereby I'm 
prompted for the insertion of a root floppy.  This I do, and hit Enter.  
Linux sits and thinks for a wee while, and I get the following:

end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 0
end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 0
end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 0
end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 0
end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 2
RAMDISK: Couldn't find valid ramdisk image starting at 0
VFS: Insert root floppy and press ENTER

I have tried producing new root disks, but this doesn't help.  The 
strange thing is that, after pressing Enter, the activity light on the 
floppy disk doesn't flash - suggesting that the boot kernel isn't 
attempting to access the device at all.

Any ideas?


Jon
2nd Year Computer Science,
University of Manchester


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On Wed, 10 Mar 1999, Jon Topper wrote:

> 
> I've used Linux on the x86 platform for almost a year now and, checking 
> over the ARM Linux pages, I was glad to see that my network card, an 
> EtherH, is finally supported.
> 
> Thus, I set to installing the OS on my RiscPC (700 with 2.1Gb HD, 32Mb 
> DRAM, 1Mb VRAM).
> 
> I've now got to the stage, after partitioning the drive etc, whereby I'm 
> prompted for the insertion of a root floppy.  This I do, and hit Enter.  
> Linux sits and thinks for a wee while, and I get the following:
> 
> end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 0
> end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 0
> end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 0
> end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 0
> end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 2
> RAMDISK: Couldn't find valid ramdisk image starting at 0


> VFS: Insert root floppy and press ENTER
> 
> I have tried producing new root disks, but this doesn't help.  The 
> strange thing is that, after pressing Enter, the activity light on the 
> floppy disk doesn't flash - suggesting that the boot kernel isn't 
> attempting to access the device at all.
> 
> Any ideas?

It is very likely that your floppy disk is damaged. You say that you have
tried different root disks, have you tried any with different floppies?

> 
> Jon
> 2nd Year Computer Science,
> University of Manchester
> 
> 
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Jon Topper said:
> I've now got to the stage, after partitioning the drive etc, whereby I'm 
> prompted for the insertion of a root floppy.  This I do, and hit Enter.  
> Linux sits and thinks for a wee while, and I get the following:
> 
> end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 0
> end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 0
> end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 0
> end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 0
> end_request: I/O error, dev 02:00, sector 2
> RAMDISK: Couldn't find valid ramdisk image starting at 0
> VFS: Insert root floppy and press ENTER

Please ensure that the hardware configuration of your floppy
drive is indeed set as drive 0.

--
Russell King (rmk@milldev.demon.co.uk)

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On Tue, Mar 09, 1999 at 10:07:06PM +0000, linux user group mailings wrote:
> 
> commands listed in the Paul Vigay installation guide but after I type mknod
> /dev/hdb3 b 67 3, I type mke2fs /dev/hdb3 and it falls over with
> ext2fs_check_if_mount: No such file or directory determining whether
> /dev/hdb3 is mounted. So basically, where have I gone wrong? I'm assuming
> it's me at fault - it usually is ;-)

You've got your numbers the wrong way around.  The first of the
numbers should be '3' (identifying it as an IDE disc), and the
second is (( <driver number> * 64) + <partition number>).  So
the line should read:

mknod /dev/hdb3 b 3 67

Cheers,
Phil
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> > I have tried producing new root disks, but this doesn't help.  The 
> > strange thing is that, after pressing Enter, the activity light on the 
> > floppy disk doesn't flash - suggesting that the boot kernel isn't 
> > attempting to access the device at all.
> > 
> > Any ideas?
 
> It is very likely that your floppy disk is damaged. You say that you have
> tried different root disks, have you tried any with different floppies?

Sorry, that's what I meant when I said I'd tried different root disks.  
Also, I think I can rule out any media damage, since Linux doesn't even 
seem to be reading the drive.


Jon

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> Please ensure that the hardware configuration of your floppy
> drive is indeed set as drive 0.

That's a little vague.  Could you tell me how to do this (or where to 
find the information).  Bear in mind that I only have one floppy drive, 
and it is functioning correctly under RiscOS.

Jon

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Jon Topper said:
> > Please ensure that the hardware configuration of your floppy
> > drive is indeed set as drive 0.
> 
> That's a little vague.  Could you tell me how to do this (or where to 
> find the information).  Bear in mind that I only have one floppy drive, 
> and it is functioning correctly under RiscOS.

It was intentionally vague, because I believe that it is already a
question on the FAQ (but for the A5000), and I'm getting annoyed at
having to keep on answer it.  I'll improve the FAQ.

Acorn seem to have had no build standard for their machines, so each
machine seems to be different.  Most RiscPCs are supplied with the
floppy drive configured as physical drive 0, but there are some out
there which are configured as physical drive 1.

When RISC OS boots, it searches for the floppy drives, and allocates
them to a logical drive number.  Hence, RISC OS does not care whether
the drive is configured as 0 or 1.

However, Linux cannot search for the drive (I would really like it to).
Hence, the drive must be correctly configured for it to be of use with
Linux.

I cannot tell you how to do this, since I cannot see your drive.  Every
manufacturer of floppy drive does it differently.  Some drives have a
link on the PCB somewhere to select 0 or 1, whereas others have a switch.

Sorry, can't be of any more help.

BTW, most floppy drives come configured as Drive 1, hence the need for
the twist `hack' in a PC floppy cable.

--
Russell King (rmk@milldev.demon.co.uk)
Millbank Electronics Tel: 01825 764811 Fax: 01825 761620

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> > > Please ensure that the hardware configuration of your floppy
> > > drive is indeed set as drive 0.
> > 
> > That's a little vague.  Could you tell me how to do this (or where to 
> > find the information).  Bear in mind that I only have one floppy drive, 
> > and it is functioning correctly under RiscOS.
> 
> It was intentionally vague, because I believe that it is already a
> question on the FAQ (but for the A5000), 

I don't recall seeing it - I did check the FAQ before posting here.

> and I'm getting annoyed at
> having to keep on answer it.  I'll improve the FAQ.

That sounds a good plan.  The only thing which I have been a little 
unhappy about so far (other than my linux not working, of course!) has 
been the amount of machine-specific documentation.  It is free though, I 
suppose :)

> Sorry I couldn't be more help

No problem - I just needed to know whether it was hardware 
switch-throwing, or software configuration I needed to do.

Cheers.


Jon

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Has someone a gdb running on arm-linux (elf) ?

If not, do I simply need to replace bfd subtree of gdb-4.17 by
bfd subtree of binutils-2.9.1.0.19a, or is there other things to care
about ?

christophe
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> 
> I'm actually working on it.  If I didn't send Russell anything yet that's
> because I don't consider the patch ready yet.
> 
> Since Brutus is the reference implementation for the SA1100, I consider
> that it needs a working console i.e. keyboard and frame buffer driver
> before it is merged in.  

Sure we need a working console, but a serial console is enough to
begin, I don't think we absolutely need keyboard and frame buffer
for the first time.
I think it would be better to have all stuff in the same place,
that would force people to make things compatible, I mean people maybe
add things to kernel that are totally not compatible with brutus,
making brutus port more and more hard, whereas they wouldn't have
done this if the brutus code was in kernel tree.

> And again, since I'm blind or visually impaired
> or whatever...  I can't do it (or don't want to do it) by myself.  So if
> anybody interested to do it please step on it.  My 2.0.35 had suport for
> it so it needs forward porting.

Ok, if noone else is doing it, I'll try and do it as soon as I get
a Brutus card


christophe
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Russell will say "have you got the latest Partman?"
IIRC he'll mean the ones from the testing subdirectory. I suspect that you'll
need Linux 3.33, and a partman of similar age (ie youth). Something more recent
than 3rd March 1999 should be happy with a 3.2Gb disc. (I believe)

It appears that the most recent partman is 1.13-alpha12-dev of 22.11 on 
1999/3/3. Try that. :-)

In the last mail linux user group mailings said:

> drive, a Quantum 3.2GB formatted to 1996MB, but if I use v1.13a although it

Nick
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Before becoming stragely curried, David Ramsden <linux@teletec.u-net.com> wrote:

> Hello,

Hi!

> #3 - fvwm's. I downloaded a Windows 95 one the other day but I am having some
> trouble installing it. I need to find the xdefaults file (where is it
> located?) and change some stuff in that but I don't think that this vwm will
> work on ARMLinux? Has any got it? It is just called fvwm95. I got it from
> http://www.plig.org/xwinman/

You have to download the source to fvwm95.  I can't remember where I got
it from though.  Somewhere linked off www.x.org or something I think.

Once you've downloaded it there is a readme file which tells you what to
do...something like
make fvwm95
make install

or something. It will say.

to find the .xdefaults file as root type

updatedb

then when that finishes

locate .Xdefaults

and it will tell you where it's located.. normally in your home
directory.

fvwm95 certainly works.. so long as you compile it.  Any readymade one
you download will be for PC linux.

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On Tue, Mar 09, 1999 at 10:07:06PM +0000, linux user group mailings wrote:
> 
> commands listed in the Paul Vigay installation guide but after I type mknod
> /dev/hdb3 b 67 3, I type mke2fs /dev/hdb3 and it falls over with
[snip]
> it's me at fault - it usually is ;-)

You've got your numbers the wrong way around.  The first of the
numbers should be '3' (identifying it as an IDE disc), and the
second is (( <driver number> * 64) + <partition number>).  So
the line should read:

mknod /dev/hdb3 b 3 67

Cheers,
Phil

Thanks.

I read that bit in the FAQ (Some people do read them ;-)) but thought it
meant the 3 of hdb3. I've now done that and it works, but it falls over after
the bit 'can't find a kernel' and when I reboot. It looks to my untutored eye
as if it's the wrong, or faulty kernel. I'm using a StrongARM RPC with 48MB
RAM and am using the the kernel called rpc. The error is 'Bad mode in
prefetch abort handler detected: mode SVC_32. Internal error: Oops 0'. Can I
repeat a line that I've left in from my first posting? It's this one -
> I'm assuming it's me at fault - it usually is ;-)

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In the last mail David Ramsden said:

> Hello,
> 
> OK here are a few questions that have been bothering me for a while;
> 
> #1 - Setting up an Ethernet card. How do I do it? It is an i-cubed
> EtherLAN600 card running EtherH. Where do I get the module(S) from? Has
> anyone got any instructions that are simple?

Yes. Here's what I did
cd /usr/src/linux
make config
Answer Y to the the question about ethernet. Answer Y to EtherH :-)
make a new kernel.
reboot.
Kernel recognises network card.
Make sure /etc/sysconfig/network contains lines such as:
HOSTNAME=Bagpuss.unfortu.net
DOMAINNAME=unfortu.net
GATEWAY=138.253.4.1
GATEWAYDEV=eth0

and that your resolver config maps your hostname to your IP address.
(It worked for me. I'm not sure what I've forgotten)

> #2 - Apache server. There is a GUI bit for the Apache server that works in X
> Windows to setup the Apache server, it is on the Apache WW site but will it
> work under ARMLinux?

Try compiling it. It should do.


> #3 - fvwm's. I downloaded a Windows 95 one the other day but I am having some
> trouble installing it. I need to find the xdefaults file (where is it
> located?) and change some stuff in that but I don't think that this vwm will
> work on ARMLinux? Has any got it? It is just called fvwm95. I got it from
> http://www.plig.org/xwinman/

I appear to have fvwm as my default window manager. :-)
Not sure where the system xdefaults are (may be setup dependant) but have a poke
in ~/.Xdefaults and see if adding things there solves anything. You can run X 
without a window manager. You can also run X with the window manager running on
a remote machine (you've mentioned that Ethernet card...) I used to run mwm on
a SunOS box, with mwm actually on a machine half a mile away.

> #4 - fvwm's (again). Is there a RISC OS vwm? Where can I get it from if so? I
> have seen a screenshot of on on the ARMLinux website.

No idea. Sorry

> Thanks for any suggestions or help that anyone can give me ...

Hope this helps,

Nick
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I've been trying to modify the kernel (v2.2.1) to support a 64mb Brutus
board with 16mb in each of the 4 memory banks. These were the changes I've
made:


./arch/arm/kernel/setup.c:403:    memory_end      = 64*1024*1024;

and...

./arch/arm/mm/mm-sa1100.c-54-/* 4Mb per bank in this case */
./arch/arm/mm/mm-sa1100.c:55:/* Adding support to 64mb Brutus - 4096 pages
 p/ bank instead of 1024 */
./arch/arm/mm/mm-sa1100.c-56-#define PAGES_IN_BANK_0  4096
./arch/arm/mm/mm-sa1100.c-57-#define PAGES_IN_BANK_1  4096
./arch/arm/mm/mm-sa1100.c-58-#define PAGES_IN_BANK_2  4096
./arch/arm/mm/mm-sa1100.c-59-#define PAGES_IN_BANK_3  4096


However, it could not fine RAM disk.


Linux version 2.2.1-rmk3-np2 (root@localhost.localdomain) (gcc version
egcs-2.99
NetWinder Floating Point Emulator V0.94.1 (c) 1998 Corel Computer Corp.
Calibrating delay loop... 194.15 BogoMIPS
Memory: 60152k/64M available (468k code, 32k reserved, 784k data, 4k init)
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
Starting kswapd v 1.5 
SA1100 serial driver version 4.26 with no serial options enabled
ttyS00 at 0xf8010000 (irq = 15) is a SA1100 UART
ttyS01 at 0xf8050000 (irq = 17) is a SA1100 UART
RAM disk driver initialized:  16 RAM disks of 8192K size
RAMDISK: Couldn't find valid RAM disk image starting at 0.
Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 01:00


Please note "ramdisk.gz" is being loaded at base 0x800000 by "angelboot".]
 
Am I missing something?

Thanks,

Jason

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In the last mail pb@nexus.co.uk said:

> Agreed.  I've now had confirmation from ARM Ltd that LDRT Rm, [Rm] results
> in UNPREDICTABLE behaviour.  So it appears that binutils is correct and we
> should fix the kernel.

Whoa - that's not actually the culprit, is it?

the warning was trigged from code generated with gcc -O0. Assembly
code was generated with gcc -S and the same command line. I think I
know why the problem may not have been noticed before - with gcc -O2
-S I discover that all the LDRTs are optimised so that Rm never equals
Rn. (One is usually ip or lr, but not quite always)

Nick
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Subject: MMU bug in Dec/Intel ARMs?
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I just heard from Intel that they are coming out with a new SA-110, that
supposedly fixes a bug only found in demand paged memory management OS's. The
new part numbers are 21281-xB.

Has anyone heard more on this? Does the MMU unit work around this "bug" or was
the field ap person mis-informed?

{- Stephen Noftall, LCS : http://www.lcsaudio.com -}

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I have heard this problem.  In addition to Stephen's question below, does
anybody know where I can read or get the part number xA or xB from the CPU /
21281 chip during the run time?


Winnie
> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Stephen Noftall [SMTP:stephenn@lcsaudio.com]
> Sent:	Thursday, March 11, 1999 8:47 AM
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> Subject:	MMU bug in Dec/Intel ARMs?
> 
> I just heard from Intel that they are coming out with a new SA-110, that
> supposedly fixes a bug only found in demand paged memory management OS's.
> The
> new part numbers are 21281-xB.
> 
> Has anyone heard more on this? Does the MMU unit work around this "bug" or
> was
> the field ap person mis-informed?
> 
> {- Stephen Noftall, LCS : http://www.lcsaudio.com -}
> 
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On Wed, 10 Mar 1999, Chagas, Jason wrote:

> I've been trying to modify the kernel (v2.2.1) to support a 64mb Brutus
> board with 16mb in each of the 4 memory banks. These were the changes I've
> made:
> 
> 
> ./arch/arm/kernel/setup.c:403:    memory_end      = 64*1024*1024;
> 
> and...
> 
> ./arch/arm/mm/mm-sa1100.c-54-/* 4Mb per bank in this case */
> ./arch/arm/mm/mm-sa1100.c:55:/* Adding support to 64mb Brutus - 4096 pages
>  p/ bank instead of 1024 */
> ./arch/arm/mm/mm-sa1100.c-56-#define PAGES_IN_BANK_0  4096
> ./arch/arm/mm/mm-sa1100.c-57-#define PAGES_IN_BANK_1  4096
> ./arch/arm/mm/mm-sa1100.c-58-#define PAGES_IN_BANK_2  4096
> ./arch/arm/mm/mm-sa1100.c-59-#define PAGES_IN_BANK_3  4096
> 
> 
> However, it could not fine RAM disk.

In setup.c change the ramdisk start address from 0xc0800000 to 0xc2000000
and be sure you loads it at 0xd0000000 with angelboot.



Nicolas Pitre, B. ing.
nico@cam.org


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Hello,

        Can any of you suggest why I should get the following fault:

I have a 'clean' install of ArmLinux using the RPMs from the ClanCD.
Logging in and typing startx starts up the X server quite happily but
if I use 'init 5' or edit the initdefault entry in /etc/inittab the
X server momentarily starts up but then quits out back to the command
line. The messages file reports the error

Mar  9 23:49:22 localhost kernel: xrdb: memory violation at pc=0x00c1a638, 
lr=0x00015fc0 (bad address=0x6c2a6e69, code 1)

Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Paul


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On 11 Mar, Paul Burns turned into jam then wrote:

> Hello,
> 
>         Can any of you suggest why I should get the following fault:
> 
> I have a 'clean' install of ArmLinux using the RPMs from the ClanCD.
> Logging in and typing startx starts up the X server quite happily but
> if I use 'init 5' or edit the initdefault entry in /etc/inittab the
> X server momentarily starts up but then quits out back to the command
> line. The messages file reports the error
> 
> Mar  9 23:49:22 localhost kernel: xrdb: memory violation at pc=0x00c1a638, 
> lr=0x00015fc0 (bad address=0x6c2a6e69, code 1)
> 
> Any suggestions?

It does work, I've had it working here, though i went back to using a
textual login because only root can shut down the machine from within X
whereas from a text login anyone can do Ctrl-Alt-Del.

Anyhow, I used to get that error.  I can't remember what causes it, but
I fixed the problem by poking around in all the xdm startup files (I STR
the man page lists them all).  I changed quie a lot of stuff so I've no
idea which file magically made it work!

Persevere, it does work!  As a last resort try recompiling your
kernel... That might have some effect.


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I've been trying to set up an ELF-only system for my platform
(sa1100-based) but there have been a few problems. The toolchain
(cross compiling from intel) seems to work OK, I have succesfully 
built and installed glibc. Most things build fine, some after a 
few tweaks. I have almost a complete system that works (init, bash, 
standard utilities etc) but I cannot seem to get login to work.

I wrote a small test application that tries to read one entry from
the passwdfile (using getpwnam("root")) but it fails(returns NULL).
The extisting a.out login works fine which makes me believe there 
is a bug in glibc. Is this the case, or am I plain stupid and forgets
something?

/Peter
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Stephen Noftall wrote:
> 
> I just heard from Intel that they are coming out with a new SA-110, that
> supposedly fixes a bug only found in demand paged memory management OS's. The
> new part numbers are 21281-xB.

The errata reads:
	"There is an anomaly in the SA-110 device that may occur during DATA_ABORT
	in environments that use demand-paging management schemes. This problem
	has been seen only in demand-page memory-management operating systems when
	a memory access crosses a page boundary from a mapped page to an  unmapped
	page during the sequence of data fetches."

It goes on to list some RTOSs that, since they do not use demand paging,
are not susceptible to the problem.

I heard that via a 3id party that and Intel rep. said Linux was not susceptible
to this problem. If true I'd like to know why. 

Any know the real answer ?

thanks.

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Dave Baukus writes:
> Stephen Noftall wrote:
> > I just heard from Intel that they are coming out with a new SA-110, that
> > supposedly fixes a bug only found in demand paged memory management OS's. The
> > new part numbers are 21281-xB.
> 
> The errata reads:
> 	"There is an anomaly in the SA-110 device that may occur during DATA_ABORT
> 	in environments that use demand-paging management schemes. This problem
> 	has been seen only in demand-page memory-management operating systems when
> 	a memory access crosses a page boundary from a mapped page to an  unmapped
> 	page during the sequence of data fetches."
> 
> It goes on to list some RTOSs that, since they do not use demand paging,
> are not susceptible to the problem.
> 
> I heard that via a 3id party that and Intel rep. said Linux was not susceptible
> to this problem. If true I'd like to know why. 
> 
> Any know the real answer ?

Any program in a demand paged OS would be susceptible to this problem.  However,
The Linux kernel itself is not.  The routines which use the ldm instruction are
carefully coded to handle the user space permissions anyway, so a ldm instruction
is never used to cross a page boundary.

It is, however, an issue for user programs.  The user stack is a conventional
full decending stack, which means that the affected instruction (ldmib) will not
be used.

Hence, I think the answer to this is that the ARM Linux OS is not susceptible
to this problem, but user programs could be.  My current experiance suggests that
no user programs currently exist which hit this problem.
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My current source tree is linux 2.2.2 + rmk5 + linux-2.2.2-philb-990301

It appears that philb changes arch/arm/mm/proc-sa110.S and associated files
which removes references to DOM_KERNELDOMAIN (from ../lib/genconsdata.c).

However, I don't understand what the sa110 changes are in order to propagate
them into proc-arm6,7.S, and remove the offending:

		teq	r0, #0
		moveq	r0, #DOM_KERNELDOMAIN
		movne	r0, #DOM_USERDOMAIN



However, I'm not sure why I need to get the MMU stuff for an ARM7 when I have
a StrongARM in my RiscPC. I suspect that really the config stuff needs to
ask three questions:

What architecture are you compiling for?		[RiscPC here]
What is the minimum CPU required to run?	[eg ARM6 or StrongARM]
Tune for which CPU?


For a distribution kernel you'd answer RiscPC,ARM6,StrongARM on the assumption
that most people have StrongARMs, but some only have ARM6, so you'd like it to
run on everything, but run fastest on StrongARM.

And when I build my personal kernel I'd like to say RiscPC,StrongARM,StrongARM
and get 64 bit multiplies, sign extending byte loads and other StrongARM
instructions, with arch/arm/Makefile clever enough to realise that it'll
have to tell gcc to prevent generation of LDRH and STRH.
Currently it seems that both PhilB and Russell's work arounds to cope with
*****y Acorn's card basically generate ARM7 kernels. Am I missing much
performance not getting the armv4 instructions?

(Can gcc already do -march=armv4 with another -m to stop LDRH/STRH?)


Is this an optimal way of doing things? Or have I missed something?

Nick
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In the last mail pb@nexus.co.uk said:

> Yes.  The LDRT is generated by an inline asm.  Those asms need to be given
> constraints to tell the compiler that the input and output regs mustn't
> overlap.  GCC itself never open codes an LDRT.

How does one do this? I've no idea how inline assembler black magic works.
I've just tried compiling rmk5 + philb at -O2 and get quite a few warnings
about input and output registers being the same.

Nick
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The gcc info file explains how.  Look for "asm" in the index  (i then
asm).  About halfway down it mentions the "&" modifier with a
cross-reference to "Constraint Modifier Characters".  That has the
gory details.

	paul
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From: Winnie Wong <Winnie.Wong@quantum.com>
To: "'Russell King - ARM Linux Admin'" <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
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Subject: RE: MMU bug in Dec/Intel ARMs?
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What kind of tests / applications you think may trigger this issue to occur
under ARM LINUX?


Winnie

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Russell King - ARM Linux Admin [SMTP:linux@arm.linux.org.uk]
> Sent:	Friday, March 12, 1999 8:50 AM
> To:	dbaukus@inetinc.com
> Cc:	linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu
> Subject:	Re: MMU bug in Dec/Intel ARMs?
> 
> Dave Baukus writes:
> > Stephen Noftall wrote:
> > > I just heard from Intel that they are coming out with a new SA-110,
> that
> > > supposedly fixes a bug only found in demand paged memory management
> OS's. The
> > > new part numbers are 21281-xB.
> > 
> > The errata reads:
> > 	"There is an anomaly in the SA-110 device that may occur during
> DATA_ABORT
> > 	in environments that use demand-paging management schemes. This
> problem
> > 	has been seen only in demand-page memory-management operating
> systems when
> > 	a memory access crosses a page boundary from a mapped page to an
> unmapped
> > 	page during the sequence of data fetches."
> > 
> > It goes on to list some RTOSs that, since they do not use demand paging,
> > are not susceptible to the problem.
> > 
> > I heard that via a 3id party that and Intel rep. said Linux was not
> susceptible
> > to this problem. If true I'd like to know why. 
> > 
> > Any know the real answer ?
> 
> Any program in a demand paged OS would be susceptible to this problem.
> However,
> The Linux kernel itself is not.  The routines which use the ldm
> instruction are
> carefully coded to handle the user space permissions anyway, so a ldm
> instruction
> is never used to cross a page boundary.
> 
> It is, however, an issue for user programs.  The user stack is a
> conventional
> full decending stack, which means that the affected instruction (ldmib)
> will not
> be used.
> 
> Hence, I think the answer to this is that the ARM Linux OS is not
> susceptible
> to this problem, but user programs could be.  My current experiance
> suggests that
> no user programs currently exist which hit this problem.
>    _____
>   |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+-
>   |   |        Russell King       linux@arm.linux.org.uk      --- ---
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>   | +-+-+                                                     --- -+-
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From: Winnie Wong <Winnie.Wong@quantum.com>

>What kind of tests / applications you think may trigger this issue to occur
>under ARM LINUX?
>
>
>Winnie

I think this bug only occurs in Virtual Memory hits. The best way to test it (I
think), would be to write a simple app that allocates 128MB (or how much you
have as memory), and be constantly hitting hit, while at the same time have the
susceptible program running. Don't know what the error would be, but maybe make
the VM test program a memory tester as well...

Stephen

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I've added a few bits and pieces to my toolchain-building manual,
most notably some rough instructions for getting glibc 2.1 up and
running; please feel free to take a look:

  http://www.inkvine.fluff.org/~chris/arm-tools.html

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Chris <chris@fluff.org>                         ( http://www.fluff.org/chris )

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Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote:

> Dave Baukus writes:
> > Stephen Noftall wrote:
> > > I just heard from Intel that they are coming out with a new SA-110, that
> > > supposedly fixes a bug only found in demand paged memory management OS's. The
> > > new part numbers are 21281-xB.
> >
> >
> > Any know the real answer ?
>
> Any program in a demand paged OS would be susceptible to this problem.  However,
> The Linux kernel itself is not.  The routines which use the ldm instruction are
> carefully coded to handle the user space permissions anyway, so a ldm instruction
> is never used to cross a page boundary.
>
> It is, however, an issue for user programs.  The user stack is a conventional
> full decending stack, which means that the affected instruction (ldmib) will not
> be used.
>
> Hence, I think the answer to this is that the ARM Linux OS is not susceptible
> to this problem, but user programs could be.  My current experiance suggests that
> no user programs currently exist which hit this problem.
>    _____

I concur with Russell's statements.

We received Intel's errata in July. At that time, I investigated both the
code build environment, and the existing binary code. I, too, concentrated on
the kernel itself. In both cases, Russell is correct. [Of course he is; he wrote the
relevent code!]

I am not at all concerned with the existence of this errata, in terms of existing
code, and code which is being written. [ArmLinux only]

However, if people want to persue an experimental attack on SA-110 systems
to see where they break, I think that is a good idea.

BTW, someone asked about how do you tell chip rev numbers? The chip ID register
will return a 3 for S steppings (the ones that exhibit the errata). I have never seen

a T stepping (the new ones), but I assume the chip ID register will be incremented.

Pat
CorelComputer/HCC


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In the last mail Paul Koning said:

> The gcc info file explains how.  Look for "asm" in the index  (i then
> asm).  About halfway down it mentions the "&" modifier with a
> cross-reference to "Constraint Modifier Characters".  That has the
> gory details.

So is this the correct patch I've attached?
(Still can't boot 2.2.2 :-( )

Nick

--- include/asm-arm/proc-armv/uaccess.h~        Fri Mar 12 17:10:47 1999
+++ include/asm-arm/proc-armv/uaccess.h Sat Mar 13 00:36:56 1999
@@ -133,7 +133,7 @@
        "       .align  3\n"                                    \
        "       .long   1b, 3b\n"                               \
        "       .previous"                                      \
-       : "=r" (err), "=r" (x)                                  \
+       : "=r" (err), "=&r" (x)                                 \
        : "r" (addr), "i" (EFAULT), "0" (err))
 
 #define __get_user_asm_half(x,addr,err)                                \
@@ -155,7 +155,7 @@
        "       .long   1b, 4b\n"                               \
        "       .long   2b, 4b\n"                               \
        "       .previous"                                      \
-       : "=r" (err), "=r" (x), "=&r" (__temp)                  \
+       : "=r" (err), "=&r" (x), "=&r" (__temp)                 \
        : "r" (addr), "r" ((int)(addr) + 1),                    \
           "i" (EFAULT), "0" (err));                            \
 })
@@ -175,7 +175,7 @@
        "       .align  3\n"                                    \
        "       .long   1b, 3b\n"                               \
        "       .previous"                                      \
-       : "=r" (err), "=r" (x)                                  \
+       : "=r" (err), "=&r" (x)                                 \
        : "r" (addr), "i" (EFAULT), "0" (err))
 
 #define __get_user3_asm_word(x,addr,lab)                       \
@@ -191,7 +191,7 @@
        "       .align  3\n"                                    \
        "       .long   1b, 3b\n"                               \
        "       .previous"                                      \
-       : "=r" (x)                                              \
+       : "=&r" (x)                                             \
        : "r" (addr), "m" (lab))
 
 extern unsigned long __arch_copy_from_user(void *to, const void *from, unsigned long n);
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On Fri, 12 Mar 1999, Nicholas Clark wrote:

> For a distribution kernel you'd answer RiscPC,ARM6,StrongARM on the assumption
> that most people have StrongARMs, but some only have ARM6, so you'd like it to
> run on everything, but run fastest on StrongARM.

This would be equivalent to compiling with

  -march=armv3l -mtune=strongarm110

and is feasible now.

> And when I build my personal kernel I'd like to say RiscPC,StrongARM,StrongARM
> and get 64 bit multiplies, sign extending byte loads and other StrongARM
> instructions, with arch/arm/Makefile clever enough to realise that it'll
> have to tell gcc to prevent generation of LDRH and STRH.

There's no way, AFAICS, of turning off and on LDRH/STRH separately from
the rest of the v4 instruction set: look in `egcs/gcc/config/arm/arm.h'.

There *are* these two options:

  {"short-load-words",         -ARM_FLAG_SHORT_BYTE},   \
  {"no-short-load-words",       ARM_FLAG_SHORT_BYTE},   \

but I suspect they do something else?

> Currently it seems that both PhilB and Russell's work arounds to cope with
> *****y Acorn's card basically generate ARM7 kernels. Am I missing much
> performance not getting the armv4 instructions?

You're right; unless you specify `--with-cpu', or your machine name 
begins with `armv2' (see `egcs/configure.in'), the target CPU is simply
set to `generic', which if you look in egcs/gcc/config/arm/arm.h is 
currently a synonym for ARM610.

I don't think you're missing much performance, no.  I don't believe gcc
can use (`open code'?) most of the v4-over-v3 improvments.

> (Can gcc already do -march=armv4 with another -m to stop LDRH/STRH?)

See above.

> Is this an optimal way of doing things? Or have I missed something?

Patch arm.[ch].

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Hi all
As I've already submitted encountered problems while
building the complete toolchain for ELF (for both kernel and user space =
binaries)
to P. Blundell and C. Rutter, so I submit here a sum up of the situation =
(as asked by Chris).

I own a StrongARM RPC 32mb memory with the initial ARMLINUX distribution =
based on RedHat 3.0.3.

Everything is ok, and all compilations will produce the a.out format.
[ for example, I partially compiled fwm95 and other stuff without =
problems, samba runs quite
well, and  I use my PC as an X terminal to unload memory from the rpc =
box etc..]

As specified, I have all sources for egcs1.1.1 , binutils 2.0.19a and =
glibc 2.1.
I patched all these trees using the appropriate patches from P. Blundell =
and R.M.King.
I've a patched kernel source tree for version 2.2.1 which seems to be =
ok.

for all configure commands, I'm using a syntax like this in my case =
(native tool chain)

./configure arm-linux --prefix=3D/usr

binutils compilation proceed and link without errors, using the initial =
GCC and binutils=20
from armlinux distrib. (a.out format) good !

Then "looping" problems appears :

1. I "make install" the new Binutils in order to proceed afterward to =
the egcs gcc compilation.

(new binutils is now installed) the new ld is installed and will, at =
final link stages fo gcc, ask
for the crt1.o file. So, I cant't link the gcc compiler at this point.
Ok; this file should be produced by glibc 2.1.

I'm working with now the new binutils for ELF and the old aout 2.7.2 =
gcc.
(correct me if I'm wrong)

2. So I stop fighting with the egcs compilation, and start a glibc 2.1 =
compilation
(with the threads and crypt add-ons) to get the crt1.o built.

-Glibc2.1 should not use any crt*.o because of the fact glibc 2.1 build =
itself
crt*.o files. (AFAI understand)-

This time, glibc stops at linking stage, with a "memory exhausted" error =
from ld.
Ok. This problem already exists with the old linker... so I think =
something should
be done with the ld compilation in binutils .. but what ?

Each time I tried another test, I reverted to the old distribution using =

a command like rpm -i --force /RedHat/RPMS/gcc... and also for binutils.

I can compile directly egcs gcc with the standard distrib, then I =
compile binutils
(note the order : egcs *then* binutils). But I got then an AOUT gcc and =
a binutils for ELF ?!!

I can not compile the kernel (2.2.1 patched) because of the crt1.o =
missing error from ld.

To sum up, ld needs crt1.o from glibc2.1 which can't be built because of =
exhausted memory from ld
itself. (this is why i call this a "looping" problem!)

I'm sure there's something to do.... Any idea ?

did anyone successfully build an Armlinux ELF working on an SA RISC PC =
or is it only likely
to exist ? Or should I revert to a Intel linux and only cross compile to =
target the Risc PC
armlinux ?
I promise I'll write a "getting a working ELF toolchain for Native =
armlinux on riscPC FAQ"
as soon as I'll be able to actually do so !!

Cheers,
Frederic.

  =20

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StrongARM RPC 32mb=20
memory with the initial ARMLINUX distribution based on RedHat=20
3.0.3.</FONT></DIV>
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face=3D"Lucida Console" size=3D2>[ for example, I partially compiled =
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memory from=20
the rpc box etc..]</FONT></DIV>
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sources for=20
egcs1.1.1 , binutils 2.0.19a and glibc 2.1.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Lucida Console" size=3D2>I patched all these trees =
using the=20
appropriate patches from P. Blundell and R.M.King.</FONT></DIV>
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version 2.2.1=20
which seems to be ok.</FONT></DIV>
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configure=20
commands, I'm using a syntax like this in my case (native tool=20
chain)</FONT></DIV>
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size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Lucida Console" size=3D2>./configure arm-linux=20
--prefix=3D/usr</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Lucida Console" size=3D2>binutils =
compilation=20
proceed and link without errors, using the initial GCC and binutils=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Lucida Console" size=3D2>from =
armlinux distrib.=20
(a.out format) good !</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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problems=20
appears :</FONT></DIV>
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&quot;make=20
install&quot; the new Binutils in order to proceed afterward to the egcs =
gcc=20
compilation.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Lucida Console" =
size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Lucida Console" size=3D2>(new binutils is now =
installed) the new=20
ld is installed and will, at final link stages fo gcc, ask</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Lucida Console" size=3D2>for the crt1.o file. So, I =
cant't link=20
the gcc compiler at this point.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Lucida Console" size=3D2>Ok; this file should be =
produced by=20
glibc 2.1.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Lucida Console" size=3D2>I'm working =
with now the=20
new binutils for ELF and the old aout 2.7.2 gcc.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Lucida Console" size=3D2></FONT><FONT =

face=3D"Lucida Console" size=3D2>(correct me if I'm wrong)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Lucida Console" size=3D2>2. So I stop fighting with =
the egcs=20
compilation, and start a glibc 2.1 compilation</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Lucida Console" size=3D2>(with the threads and crypt =
add-ons) to=20
get the crt1.o built.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Lucida Console" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Lucida Console" size=3D2>-Glibc2.1 should not use any =
crt*.o=20
because of the fact glibc 2.1 build itself</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Lucida Console" size=3D2>crt*.o files. (AFAI=20
understand)-</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Lucida Console" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Lucida Console" size=3D2>This time, glibc stops at =
linking stage,=20
with a &quot;memory exhausted&quot; error from ld.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Lucida Console" size=3D2>Ok. This problem already =
exists with the=20
old linker... so I think something should</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Lucida Console" size=3D2>be done with the ld =
compilation in=20
binutils .. but what ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Lucida Console" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Lucida Console" size=3D2>Each time I tried another =
test, I=20
reverted to the old distribution using </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Lucida Console" size=3D2>a command like rpm -i =
--force=20
/RedHat/RPMS/gcc... and also for binutils.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Lucida Console" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Lucida Console" size=3D2>I can compile directly egcs =
gcc with the=20
standard distrib, then I compile binutils</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Lucida Console" size=3D2>(note the order : egcs =
*then* binutils).=20
But I got then an AOUT gcc and a binutils for ELF ?!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Lucida Console" size=3D2>I can not compile the kernel =
(2.2.1=20
patched) because of </FONT><FONT face=3D"Lucida Console" size=3D2>the =
crt1.o missing=20
error from ld.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Lucida Console" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Lucida Console" size=3D2>To sum up, =
ld needs crt1.o=20
from glibc2.1 which can't be built because of exhausted memory from=20
ld</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Lucida Console" size=3D2></FONT><FONT =

face=3D"Lucida Console" size=3D2>itself. (this is why i call this a=20
&quot;looping&quot; problem!)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Lucida Console" size=3D2>I'm sure there's something =
to do.... Any=20
idea ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Lucida Console" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Lucida Console" size=3D2>did anyone successfully =
build=20
a</FONT><FONT face=3D"Lucida Console" size=3D2>n Armlinux ELF working on =
an SA RISC=20
PC or is it only likely</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Lucida Console" size=3D2></FONT><FONT face=3D"Lucida =
Console"=20
size=3D2>to exist ? Or should I revert to a Intel linux and only cross =
compile to=20
target the Risc PC</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Lucida Console" size=3D2>armlinux ?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Lucida Console" size=3D2>I promise I'll write a =
&quot;getting a=20
working ELF toolchain for Native armlinux on riscPC =
FAQ&quot;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Lucida Console" size=3D2>as soon as I'll be able to =
actually=20
</FONT><FONT face=3D"Lucida Console" size=3D2>do so !!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Lucida Console" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Lucida Console" size=3D2>Cheers,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Lucida Console" size=3D2>Frederic.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"Lucida Console" size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp; =

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Subject: booting 2.2.2 kernels on RiscPC
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Do I sucessfully claim the prize for the greatest distance between the machine
booting and the machine logging the serial port?
Failing to find anything in the house capable of logging it, I dialed into
Liverpool and logged the boot via my modem onto a machine 200 miles away.

and IT WORKED. My log goes:

Linux version 2.2.2 (root@Bagpuss.unfortu.net) (gcc version egcs-2.91.60 19990113/philb (egcs-1.1.1 release)) #15 Sat Mar 13 14:30:44 GMT 1999

<4>NetWinder Floating Point Emulator V0.94.1 (c) 1998 Corel Computer Corp.

Console: colour dummy device 80x30

Calibrating delay loop... 190.46 BogoMIPS

Memory: 35332k/36M available (912k code, 20k reserved, 584k data, 16k init)

POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX

Probing expansion cards: (does not imply support)

  8:      [0046:00EC] i-cubed ltd, EtherLan 600 interface (00:c0:32:00:45:a4)

<6>Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2

<6>Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039

<6>NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0 for Linux NET4.0.

<6>NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0

<6>IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP

Initializing RT netlink socket

Starting kswapd v 1.5 

Acornfb: 2048kB VRAM, VIDC20, using 640x480, 31.468kHz, 59Hz

<3>fbcon_setup: No support for fontwidth 8

<2>Bad mode in prefetch abort handler detected: mode SVC_32

Internal error: Oops: 0

CPU: 0

pc : [<ed000000>]    lr : [<c00ac1a8>]

sp : c0187ddc  ip : 00000000  fp : 00000000

r10: c00081bc  r9 : 00000000  r8 : c01800dc

r7 : c011e050  r6 : 00000000  r5 : 00000000  r4 : 00000011

r3 : 00000011  r2 : 00000000  r1 : 00000002  r0 : c011e050

Flags: nzCv  IRQs off  FIQs on  Mode SVC_32  Segment kernel

Control: 1000517D  Table: 1000517D  DAC: 0000001D

Process swapper (pid: 1, stackpage=c0187000)

Stack: 

c0187e00:                                               c00ac1a8 ed000000 20000093 

c0187e20: ffffffff 00000000 00000002 00000000  00000000 c0111cb4 00000000 00000000 

c0187e40: c00ffbf4 00000000 c00b60d0 c00ffc00  00000000 c00b9ed0 c0187ec0 c01035d7 

c0187e60: 00000000 00000000 00000028 c01035da  c00ffcf8 c0103601 c0103602 00000027 

c0187e80: 00000001 c01035da c001c808 00000001  00000000 c0103602 0000002b 00000106 

c0187ea0: c011e050 00000000 c011e050 00000100  c01800dc c00ab5c4 c00e626c 00000008 

c0187ec0: 00000000 00000000 60000013 ffffffff  c000e1c0 00000000 e0200018 00000100 

c0187ee0: 00000000 c018a1a0 c00ac370 04000000  c00e625c 00000001 00000000 00000000 

c0187f00: 00000000 c011e104 00000000 00000000  c01113dc c01800dc c00ab26c 00000000 

c0187f20: c0122440 00000000 c00fd774 00000000  0000003e c00b649c 00000001 00000000 

c0187f40: c0122440 c00fd774 c00bac94 c0187f58  c00e6248 00000000 00000001 c00fd904 

c0187f60: c011e02f c01113dc 00000000 c011e02e  c0111284 c00b0ab4 00000800 00007aec 

c0187f80: 00000056 0000003b c0111460 00000002  c00b5300 00000280 000001e0 0000001f 

c0187fa0: 000001d4 0000003b 00000000 00000000  c000b4a8 c0122838 c00f391c 4401a102 

c0187fc0: c00b0be4 c00f36cc c00f36d0 c0112490  c00a5030 c0099b3c c00321d4 c00f36cc 

c0187fe0: c00f36d0 c0112490 c0122838 c000c8bc  c000c8d4 c00f36cc c00f36d0 c000c7d8 

Code: pc not in code space





There it ends.
How can I fix the kernel?

Nick
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In message <199903072042.UAA05701@raistlin.armlinux.org.uk>
          Russell King - ARM Linux Admin <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> wrote:

> I do hope that you didn't compile the kernel for a StrongARM on a RiscPC.
> This is a great nono with egcs (since it will generate half-word
> instructions which the RiscPC can't cope with).

Don't think so, and certainly not the decompression code.

I have found the "RC5PC" module is causing the problem, if I remove
it the kernel boots succesfully, but with problems with the display. I shall
recompile the kernel with clean source code.

Russell (or anybody else), can you confirm !Linux calls Service_PreReset?

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Timothy Baldwin writes:
> I have found the "RC5PC" module is causing the problem, if I remove
> it the kernel boots succesfully, but with problems with the display. I shall
> recompile the kernel with clean source code.
> 
> Russell (or anybody else), can you confirm !Linux calls Service_PreReset?

It does indeed.  This is one of the calls to ensure that the Expansion cards
are put into their reset state.
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Nicholas Clark writes:
> Do I sucessfully claim the prize for the greatest distance between the machine
> booting and the machine logging the serial port?

I think you've gained that prize!

> Linux version 2.2.2 (root@Bagpuss.unfortu.net) (gcc version egcs-2.91.60 19990113/philb (egcs-1.1.1 release)) #15 Sat Mar 13 14:30:44 GMT 1999

Hmm, where'd the -rmk go on the version number?

> <4>NetWinder Floating Point Emulator V0.94.1 (c) 1998 Corel Computer Corp.
> Console: colour dummy device 80x30
> Calibrating delay loop... 190.46 BogoMIPS
> Memory: 35332k/36M available (912k code, 20k reserved, 584k data, 16k init)
> POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
> Probing expansion cards: (does not imply support)
>   8:      [0046:00EC] i-cubed ltd, EtherLan 600 interface (00:c0:32:00:45:a4)
> <6>Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2
> <6>Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
> <6>NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0 for Linux NET4.0.
> <6>NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
> <6>IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
> Initializing RT netlink socket
> Starting kswapd v 1.5 
> Acornfb: 2048kB VRAM, VIDC20, using 640x480, 31.468kHz, 59Hz
> <3>fbcon_setup: No support for fontwidth 8

Oops.  Did you configure in the framebuffers?  My console
section looks like:

CONFIG_FB=y
CONFIG_DUMMY_CONSOLE=y
CONFIG_FB_ACORN=y
CONFIG_FBCON_MFB=y
CONFIG_FBCON_CFB2=y
CONFIG_FBCON_CFB4=y
CONFIG_FBCON_CFB8=y
CONFIG_FBCON_FONTS=y
CONFIG_FONT_ACORN_8x8=y

> <2>Bad mode in prefetch abort handler detected: mode SVC_32
> Internal error: Oops: 0

Looks like fbcon has gone mad...  I'll see if I can provoke this here.
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e-Fred writes:
> As specified, I have all sources for egcs1.1.1 , binutils 2.0.19a
> and glibc 2.1. I patched all these trees using the appropriate patches
> from P. Blundell and R.M.King.  I've a patched kernel source tree for
> version 2.2.1 which seems to be ok.
> 
> for all configure commands, I'm using a syntax like this in my case
> (native tool chain)
> 
> ./configure arm-linux --prefix=/usr
> 
> binutils compilation proceed and link without errors, using the initial
> GCC and binutils from armlinux distrib. (a.out format) good !

The binutils should not have overwritten your a.out binutils.  The ELF
stuff should be named arm-linux-as, arm-linux-ar, arm-linux-ld etc.

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Hi,

	I'm trying to get ARM Linux working on my old A5000, so far I
can't even get a kernel to boot off a floppy - I get to the "choose
RiscOS/Linux 1/2" bit, the kernel gets loaded off the floppy, but
then I don't get anymore text on the screen - not even the
"Uncompressing Linux..." message. The kernel I'm trying is the
precompiled a5k-2.0.31-1997.10.18 one from the ARM Linux FTP site.

	on a related note, I've built an arm-linuxaout cross compiler
on my PC Linux machine using the <can't remember>.19a binutils and
gcc 2.8.1. Will this be okay for compiling A5000 kernels or do I need
to use egcs? I've also got the 2.0.36 kernel source and the ARM patches,
is there any possibility that I'll be able to get this working on an
A5000?

	of course, the next problem will be trying to find somewhere to
store the RPMs to install RedHat - I was planning to do this over an
ethernet link to my PC. I'll have to get an ethernet card for my A5000,
so what's the best one to go for?

	TIA for any help,

Simon.
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In the last mail Russell King - ARM Linux Admin said:

> Nicholas Clark writes:
> > Linux version 2.2.2 (root@Bagpuss.unfortu.net) (gcc version egcs-2.91.60 19990113/philb (egcs-1.1.1 release)) #15 Sat Mar 13 14:30:44 GMT 1999
> 
> Hmm, where'd the -rmk go on the version number?

Dunno, sorry

> > <3>fbcon_setup: No support for fontwidth 8
> 
> Oops.  Did you configure in the framebuffers?  My console
> section looks like:
> 
> CONFIG_FB=y
> CONFIG_DUMMY_CONSOLE=y
> CONFIG_FB_ACORN=y
> CONFIG_FBCON_MFB=y
> CONFIG_FBCON_CFB2=y
> CONFIG_FBCON_CFB4=y
> CONFIG_FBCON_CFB8=y
> CONFIG_FBCON_FONTS=y
> CONFIG_FONT_ACORN_8x8=y
> 
> > <2>Bad mode in prefetch abort handler detected: mode SVC_32
> > Internal error: Oops: 0
> 
> Looks like fbcon has gone mad...  I'll see if I can provoke this here.

You can probaby provoke it by

CONFIG_FB=y
CONFIG_DUMMY_CONSOLE=y
CONFIG_FB_ACORN=y
CONFIG_FBCON_MFB=n
CONFIG_FBCON_CFB2=n
CONFIG_FBCON_CFB4=n
CONFIG_FBCON_CFB8=y
CONFIG_FBCON_FONTS=y
CONFIG_FONT_ACORN_8x8=y



Now, this was why I didn't boot. I wasn't expecting linux 2.2.2 to change
resolution. 2.0.35 sits nicely in the mode RISC OS left the machine in.
So my next question is - how do I get 2.2.2 (or 2.2.3) to switch to 1360x1024
in 8 bpp?


So, IT BOOTS. It works enough to compile kernels. I can't run X - xinit dies
with "

Using VT7

VT_GETSCRINFO failed
"

I can't run screen - I get many many lines of "modprobe: Out of file handles"
and then a final message about no more ptys.

It also refused to load my ppp module. I think it's refusing to load all
modules. It may be because the 2.2.0 kernel needs it to load the Acorn FPE,
and it appears to be trying this for 2.2.2. Not sure.

Finally, tab completion in bash, and pressing backspace at the start of a line
causes an extra space to be printed. I did "stty sane" and it still does it.


Sorry for the about diatribe. The summary is that I can boot 2.2.2 now, but its
not that useful.

Nick
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Nicholas Clark writes:
> You can probaby provoke it by
> 
> CONFIG_FB=y
> CONFIG_DUMMY_CONSOLE=y
> CONFIG_FB_ACORN=y
> CONFIG_FBCON_MFB=n
> CONFIG_FBCON_CFB2=n
> CONFIG_FBCON_CFB4=n
> CONFIG_FBCON_CFB8=y
> CONFIG_FBCON_FONTS=y
> CONFIG_FONT_ACORN_8x8=y

Aha!  Currently, acornfb wants to start in 4bpp, 640x480.  Hence, if cfb4
is missing, it won't be able to (however, it still shouldn't die horribly).

> Now, this was why I didn't boot. I wasn't expecting linux 2.2.2 to change
> resolution. 2.0.35 sits nicely in the mode RISC OS left the machine in.
> So my next question is - how do I get 2.2.2 (or 2.2.3) to switch to 1360x1024
> in 8 bpp?

You may want to have a look at the fbcon utilities - you can find details
about them in linux/Documentation/Changes

> So, IT BOOTS. It works enough to compile kernels. I can't run X - xinit dies
> with "
> 
> Using VT7
> 
> VT_GETSCRINFO failed
> "

Ok, fix already exists - there is a new X server binary in the FTP site
in /pub/armlinux/testing/X I think.  I know of one problem with it - since
the kernel now passes the keyboard-generated autorepeat to the X server,
the X server cockes up doing it's own autorepeat.

> I can't run screen - I get many many lines of "modprobe: Out of file handles"
> and then a final message about no more ptys.

Aha!  You probably haven't got the correct major/minor numbers for
/dev/?ty[p-s]*.  Have a look at linux/Documentation/devices.txt for
the correct numbers.  These will be backwards compatible with the
2.0.3x kernels.

> It also refused to load my ppp module. I think it's refusing to load all
> modules. It may be because the 2.2.0 kernel needs it to load the Acorn FPE,
> and it appears to be trying this for 2.2.2. Not sure.

I assume that you've recompiled the modules in the 2.2 tree?  If so, you'll
also need a later modutils - 2.1.121 on ftp.kernel.org doesn't seem to be
up to date (and will crash a machine if used).  I'll upload a 2.1.121 which
seems to work...  (both binary and src).

> Finally, tab completion in bash, and pressing backspace at the start of a line
> causes an extra space to be printed. I did "stty sane" and it still does it.

Do you mean that the cursor is at the end of a line?  If so, this is a bug
in all PC kernels 1.x and so far 2.x.  I thought that my patches fixed that...
Hmm, just tried it, and if I have a line of 'a's with the cursor sitting under
the last one, then hit backspace, it leaves the last 'a' there...
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Hi everyone,

I couldn't sleep last night so I thought I'd finally update the kernel on
my RPC from 2.0.33 to 2.0.36.  It all seems to have gone fine except I
have no fpem.  If I try and load it it balks telling me I need to
recompile the module.  I've never had this problem before as far as I can
remember.  What have I forgotten to do.

Is it about time for me to move to the netwinder emulator.  If so, where
are the sources?

Finally 2.0.36 died at reboot with an error

	Unable to handle kernel pagin request at virtual address 003c0000

It was compiled with the default compiler in the ARM Linux distrbution
from arm.linux.org.uk.

Incidentally I now have SuSE 6.0 running on other machines and they tell
me that egcs (the default compiler) isn't ready for compiling 2.0 kernels.
Is this true?

Regards

Melanie

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On Sat, Mar 13, 1999 at 10:47:36PM +0000, Nicholas Clark wrote:
> In the last mail Russell King - ARM Linux Admin said:
> 
> Now, this was why I didn't boot. I wasn't expecting linux 2.2.2 to change
> resolution. 2.0.35 sits nicely in the mode RISC OS left the machine in.
> So my next question is - how do I get 2.2.2 (or 2.2.3) to switch to 1360x1024
> in 8 bpp?

There's a util called fbset.  I don't know the original site, but you can
get it in the debian slink distribution in main/source/admin/fbset*

> So, IT BOOTS. It works enough to compile kernels. I can't run X - xinit dies
> with "
> 
> Using VT7
> 
> VT_GETSCRINFO failed
> "

I think you need to run XF68_FBDev instead of Russell's X port.  Or is the
old console driver still available, Russell?

> I can't run screen - I get many many lines of "modprobe: Out of file handles"
> and then a final message about no more ptys.
> 
> It also refused to load my ppp module. I think it's refusing to load all
> modules. It may be because the 2.2.0 kernel needs it to load the Acorn FPE,
> and it appears to be trying this for 2.2.2. Not sure.

I don't think that's correct - the boot messages you pasted before show you
have the NWFPE built in.  You do however probably need newer modutils than
the ones you currently have.  Bjorn Ekwall has a snapshot up for people to
try out - http://www.pi.se/blox/modutils/

-- 
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better ways to earn a living than to prevent other people from making use of
one's contributions to computer science."  -- Donald E. Knuth, TAoCP vol 3
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On Sun, Mar 14, 1999 at 10:18:47AM +0000, Melanie Rhianna Lewis wrote:
> I couldn't sleep last night so I thought I'd finally update the kernel on
> my RPC from 2.0.33 to 2.0.36.  It all seems to have gone fine except I
> have no fpem.  If I try and load it it balks telling me I need to
> recompile the module.  I've never had this problem before as far as I can
> remember.  What have I forgotten to do.

I *think* this is in the FAQ.  If not, it should be since I've asked
it before.  When you compile your kernel, you _must_ ask for versioned
modules.

> Incidentally I now have SuSE 6.0 running on other machines and they tell
> me that egcs (the default compiler) isn't ready for compiling 2.0 kernels.
> Is this true?

Not exactly.  egcs fixed some of the things that were broken in gcc that
the kernel depended on being broken.  The 2.1 kernel development fixed
these problems, but no-one wanted to do the same to 2.0.  There is a web
page somewhere where someone is collecting patches but I'd be loathe to
trust it.  For 2.0 use gcc 2.7.2.N.

-- 
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better ways to earn a living than to prevent other people from making use of
one's contributions to computer science."  -- Donald E. Knuth, TAoCP vol 3
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From: Allen Craig <acraig@ihug.co.nz>
Subject: !linux -bootkernel problems
To: Paul Vigay <pvigay@cix.compulink.co.uk>
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I have 2 problems with regard to setting up armlinux for the first time

(1)
I have managed to get through Paul Vigays Instructions to the step (84)
where I reboot the system after all the installations - unfortunately at
this point I get the following :

partition check...
EXT2-fs warning = mounting unchecked fs running esfsck is recommended

VFS: mounted root (ext2 filesystem)
init version 2.64 booting

bad mode in prefetch abort handler detected : mode SVC-32

Internal error :0ops:0
cpu ..... etc etc

I will try to re-do it all from beginning again but has anyone any ideas
on what might be cause/fix ?

(2)
Additonally when I try and boot the kernel (right at the beginning when
attempting to configure linux etc) with my CD drive plugged in the
process sticks at

hdb : MATSHITA CD-584 atapi cd rom drive...

the CD/IDE share acorn interface..

to get it past here I have to de-configure cd, unplug power and data
leads....any ideas/fixes ?

Thanks for your help....sorry to mither again....

-- 
Allen Craig ... Hamilton New Zealand
    Using Acorn StrongArm RISC PC
ICQ 9948225    IRC#acorn .. Alkemyst

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Allen Craig writes:
> (1)
> partition check...
> EXT2-fs warning = mounting unchecked fs running esfsck is recommended

You want to add 'ro' to the kernel arguments.

> bad mode in prefetch abort handler detected : mode SVC-32

Have you used the latest modutils on the FTP site (ftp.arm.linux.org.uk)?

> (2)
> Additonally when I try and boot the kernel (right at the beginning when
> attempting to configure linux etc) with my CD drive plugged in the
> process sticks at
> 
> hdb : MATSHITA CD-584 atapi cd rom drive...

Oh, it's this old problem again, which we don't have a fix for.
I would like to get a CD drive which exhibits this problem here
so I can debug it.  I suspect it's another bad drive which
asserts it's interrupt line when asked to disable it.
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In the last mail pb@nexus.co.uk said:

> > I can't run screen - I get many many lines of "modprobe: Out of file handles"
> > and then a final message about no more ptys.
> 
> Check that you are using major 2/3 pty devices, not the old major 4 ones.
> The modprobe thing is something I saw on one of my Intel boxes but I'm
> not sure why. Maybe an old version of modutils or something.

Correct. ttys are major 4 at the moment. I'm goint to hack /dev/MAKEDEV

> > It also refused to load my ppp module. I think it's refusing to load all
> > modules. It may be because the 2.2.0 kernel needs it to load the Acorn FPE,
> > and it appears to be trying this for 2.2.2. Not sure.
> 
> What goes wrong?

I've got the March 12 version of modutils.
modprobe works, as unlike 2.1.121 it makes no mention of unresolved references
insmod now seems to refuse to find modules. Gives an error to this effect
(I forget the exact wording)

Nick
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> >       I'm trying to get ARM Linux working on my old A5000, so far I
> > can't even get a kernel to boot off a floppy - I get to the "choose
> 
> Are you sure you've unzipped the kernel?  How much RAM does your A5000
> have?  Have you got the very latest !Linux from ftp.arm.linux.org.uk ?
> Have you tried running the kernel from harddrive with -bootkernel ?
> 

	success! I have MacFS and ZIPFS running normally, so I killed
those off and it booted first time!!!

	no doubt I'll be back here asking more questions when my
ethernet card gets delivered and I start trying to install Red Hat.

	bye fer now,

Simon.
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In the last mail Russell King - ARM Linux Admin said:
> Ok, fix already exists - there is a new X server binary in the FTP site
> in /pub/armlinux/testing/X I think.  I know of one problem with it - since
> the kernel now passes the keyboard-generated autorepeat to the X server,
> the X server cockes up doing it's own autorepeat.

mknod /dev/fb0 c 29 0
and it works fine on 2.2.2 (albeit in 640x480x16 colours)

What happens when I plug a TV into my RiscPC instead of a monitor?
(I have the lead to do this). I note the code that returns monitor type 
currently always returns 4 (SVGA), but it it returned 1, what would the rest of
the boot sequence do?

> > I can't run screen - I get many many lines of "modprobe: Out of file handles"
> > and then a final message about no more ptys.
> 
> Aha!  You probably haven't got the correct major/minor numbers for
> /dev/?ty[p-s]*.  Have a look at linux/Documentation/devices.txt for
> the correct numbers.  These will be backwards compatible with the
> 2.0.3x kernels.

Fixed /dev/MAKEDEV and then fixed this. screen works. 2.0.35 still works.

> > Finally, tab completion in bash, and pressing backspace at the start of a line
> > causes an extra space to be printed. I did "stty sane" and it still does it.
> 
> Do you mean that the cursor is at the end of a line?  If so, this is a bug
> in all PC kernels 1.x and so far 2.x.  I thought that my patches fixed that...
> Hmm, just tried it, and if I have a line of 'a's with the cursor sitting under
> the last one, then hit backspace, it leaves the last 'a' there...

No, pressing tab sometimes generates spaces, and backspace on an empty line
(ie just a shell prompt) generates spaces.

2 other problems:

crond doesn't start: can't lock /var/run/cron.pid - other process may be 67108304. invalid argument
(ish, in that punctuation may be wrong)

architecture is arm4vl, which causes modutil's configure to barf (so I
explicitly specified arm-linux, and it was happy)


This feels like some massive initiative test, which I'm struggling with.
I'm trying to make a list of all the right things to do in the right order,
starting with a bare bones a.out 2.0.35 installation. and ending up with ELF
and 2.2.2, but with 2.0.35 still bootable. I've still got 2.0.35 bootable,
but that's only because willy supplied me with a spare / partition, which
has got me out of trouble twice now.

Still can't get ppp to load - will compile 2.2.3 with it linked in :-)
eth0 says that its initialisation is delayed -would this be consistent with
insmod not getting the EtherH driver to load?

Nick

PS Is that supposed to be a pint in the penguin's flipper? I'm surprised that
   the penguin didn't take it back to get it topped up - it's >15% head. :-(
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On 14 Mar, Melanie Rhianna Lewis (melanie@defaid.demon.co.uk) wrote:

[snip]
> Finally 2.0.36 died at reboot with an error
> 
> 	Unable to handle kernel pagin request at virtual address 003c0000
Just cured this one myself! It seems to be caused by using the Arm patches
dated 9/1/99 (and pointed to by the symlink) rather than the ones dated
19/9/99.  These (applied to a clean source tree seem to do the trick. By the
way, the old patch also seems to foul up X windows, and a few other things.

However, I _still_ can't get any self-compiled kernel to recognise ADFS,
despite answering 'Yes' appropriately in the config.  /proc/filesystems is
missing an adfs that I'm sure should be there, so I'm left having to boot the
distribution kernel to fetch things from ADFS, and then reboot into a 2.0.36
to use them.  Very annoying, but I'm probably just missing something obvious?
(He said hopefuly...)

Regards,
	Charles.
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In the last mail Matthew Wilcox said:

> On Sat, Mar 13, 1999 at 10:47:36PM +0000, Nicholas Clark wrote:
> > In the last mail Russell King - ARM Linux Admin said:

> There's a util called fbset.  I don't know the original site, but you can
> get it in the debian slink distribution in main/source/admin/fbset*

http://www.cs.kuleuven.ac.be/~geert/bin/

I can now set the console to anything sane that it's predefined.
I guess what we want now is the perl script to convert RISC OS modedefs to
fbset's format...

(make install for fbset makes the /dev/fb[0-7] entries )
> I think you need to run XF68_FBDev instead of Russell's X port.  Or is the
> old console driver still available, Russell?

Xarmlinux in the testing dir works.
However, it resets that screen back to 640x480. Hmm. So my text console is
1280x1024, but X is at VGA. :-) I *thought* that they were both on /dev/fb0 
so I must be doing something wrong here, but quite what I don't know.

It's nearly all working very nicely. :-)

Upgraded ppp to 2.3.6, as the kernel changes docs suggest I should.
insmod still doesn't want to do ppp. route reveals that eth0 is up, so
the kernel is loading that module. Odd.

Nick

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>insmod still doesn't want to do ppp.

Post the exact errors you get.

p.


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Whenever I configured egcs [egcs-2.91.60 19990113/philb (egcs-1.1.1 release)]
on arm-linux I get a spurious line

TOP

in gcc/auto-host.h

which kills the compilation with an error until I remove it.

Is this an arm-linux thing? or an egcs thing? if the latter, where should I
have mailed this?

Nick
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>Is this an arm-linux thing? or an egcs thing? if the latter, where should I
>have mailed this?

My best guess is that it's caused by a buggy version of something like sed.  
If you can nail down the actual cause that would be great.  See 
http://egcs.cygnus.com/ for details of how to report egcs problems.

p.


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In the last mail Russell King - ARM Linux Admin said:

> Nicholas Clark writes:
> > Finally, tab completion in bash, and pressing backspace at the start of a line
> > causes an extra space to be printed. I did "stty sane" and it still does it.
> 
> Do you mean that the cursor is at the end of a line?  If so, this is a bug
> in all PC kernels 1.x and so far 2.x.  I thought that my patches fixed that...

Ah. I've figured out when it happens - whenever bash tries to ring the
terminal bell.  Within screen, screen flashes the display, and no space 
gets printed. It's only happening on the console device.

Nick
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In the last mail Philip Blundell said:

> >Is this an arm-linux thing? or an egcs thing? if the latter, where should I
> >have mailed this?
> 
> My best guess is that it's caused by a buggy version of something like sed.  
> If you can nail down the actual cause that would be great.  See 
> http://egcs.cygnus.com/ for details of how to report egcs problems.

Trying to repeat my previous stall further on in the build I'm now getting 
getting a segv coredump:

make[1]: Entering directory `/home/src/egcs-4/gcc'
./genrecog ../../egcs-source/gcc/config/arm/arm.md > tmp-recog.c


[with a 0 to 180 second CPU munchin wait]

Does anyone have a version of strace that's happy with ELF?
Willy found me strace source and an ARM patch, but it won't compile with
ELF and glibc 2.1
(it has specific #ifs to do things differently with glibc >= 2.1
It also wants <sys/reg.h>, which I don't have.)

oh, for an ELF gdb...

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Nicholas Clark writes:
> Xarmlinux in the testing dir works.
> However, it resets that screen back to 640x480. Hmm. So my text console is
> 1280x1024, but X is at VGA. :-) I *thought* that they were both on /dev/fb0 
> so I must be doing something wrong here, but quite what I don't know.

Depending on the kernel version you have, fbset -a will set the
resolution for each and every console, including newly created ones.
Some kernels may only do this for all existing consoles though.

> Upgraded ppp to 2.3.6, as the kernel changes docs suggest I should.
> insmod still doesn't want to do ppp. route reveals that eth0 is up, so
> the kernel is loading that module. Odd.

Interesting.  On 'caramon', pppd 2.2 pl0 seems to work fine with both
2.0.36 and 2.2.0 (hmm, am I still running this on there?)...  However,
I don't think I have ppp compiled up as a module.  Could you post the
output of 'insmod ppp.o' please?
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Dr Charles McEvoy writes:
> However, I _still_ can't get any self-compiled kernel to recognise ADFS,
> despite answering 'Yes' appropriately in the config.  /proc/filesystems is
> missing an adfs that I'm sure should be there, so I'm left having to boot the
> distribution kernel to fetch things from ADFS, and then reboot into a 2.0.36
> to use them.  Very annoying, but I'm probably just missing something obvious?
> (He said hopefuly...)

Hmm, I've no idea on this one.  I do know that I have adfs compiled into
the kernel without problem.  (I would post my /proc/filesystems if I had
a mouse on flint, but I haven't got the IRQ mapping fixed for both EBSA285
and NetWinder yet).  Any chance of a .config file?
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In the last mail Russell King - ARM Linux Admin said:

> Nicholas Clark writes:
> > Xarmlinux in the testing dir works.
> > However, it resets that screen back to 640x480. Hmm. So my text console is
> > 1280x1024, but X is at VGA. :-) I *thought* that they were both on /dev/fb0 
> > so I must be doing something wrong here, but quite what I don't know.
> 
> Depending on the kernel version you have, fbset -a will set the
> resolution for each and every console, including newly created ones.
> Some kernels may only do this for all existing consoles though.

Is it because I have no XF86config file, so X is falling back to a nice safe
640x480?
I don't know where to get such a file (it doesn't appear to be in the X rpms
on your site), or the XF86config binary to generate it.

Is there an ELF libX11 out there, or do I need to compile that? If so, does
the source need ARMLinux patches?

> > Upgraded ppp to 2.3.6, as the kernel changes docs suggest I should.
> > insmod still doesn't want to do ppp. route reveals that eth0 is up, so
> > the kernel is loading that module. Odd.
> 
> Interesting.  On 'caramon', pppd 2.2 pl0 seems to work fine with both
> 2.0.36 and 2.2.0 (hmm, am I still running this on there?)...  However,
> I don't think I have ppp compiled up as a module.  Could you post the
> output of 'insmod ppp.o' please?

$ insmod ppp.o
ppp.o: ppp.o: No such file or directory


It's not ppp - I checked and ismod is failing to load the msdos filing system
when I attempt to mount a DOS floppy. I've disabled kerneld, and I know kmod
is working because I get modprobe errors on the console when I attempt the
mount. I conclude that I am unable to load kernel modules on 2.2.2 for some
reason. (If I rename /lib/modues/2.2.2 to 2.2.2-rmk5 then I get errors about
"not found", (sorry, I forget the exact text) so I know it's trying to look in
2.2.2 directory

recompiled kernel with ppp linked in and pppd works. (I'm mailing this :-) )

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