From owner-linux-arm@zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk Thu May 27 21:01:00 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) id VAA27761 for linux-arm-outgoing; Thu, 27 May 1999 21:01:00 +0100 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org.uk (root@du-004-0179.freeuk.com [212.126.149.179]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA27755 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 21:00:56 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org.uk (linux@raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA19480 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 21:01:09 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org.uk (8.7.4/8.7.3) id UAA00725 for linux-arm@zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk; Thu, 27 May 1999 20:59:52 +0100 Message-Id: <199905271959.UAA00725@raistlin.armlinux.org.uk> Subject: New mailing list To: linux-arm@zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 20:59:51 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux-arm@zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi All, My postings between the two lists are the wrong way round, but never mind... There is now a (temporary) linux-arm list set up here, which should significantly cut down on the time taken for mail to propagate. I'm not sure what's up with vger, but from the looks of it, vger's running very slowly with a light load average. Anyway, to cut a long story short, the new mailing lists are almost ready. HOWEVER: Please do not send mail through the new lists yet! The official address will be linux-arm@lists.arm.linux.org.uk, once the DNS is sorted. Please do not send mail to both vger.rutgers.edu and the new linux-arm list - you will mail everyone twice, which will make you very unpopular. This includes when you are responding to a mail on either list. There will be the following lists available here: linux-arm (temporary) linux-arm-kernel (for kernel-only discussions) linux-arm-announce (moderated) As a special offer (everything new has to include one), you may advance- subscribe to linux-arm-kernel and linux-arm-announce using the following address: majordomo@zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk Once the DNS is sorted, all mail should be addressed using lists.arm.linux.org.uk. You will be notified when this has happened. Depending on how zen takes the strain, these lists may become permanent or be removed. PS, if you received this posting, then you are subscribed to linux-arm. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.linux.org.uk --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@lists.arm.linux.org.uk From owner-linux-arm@zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk Sat May 29 23:04:21 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) id XAA23087 for linux-arm-outgoing; Sat, 29 May 1999 23:04:21 +0100 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org.uk (root@du-003-0050.freeuk.com [212.126.148.50]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA23082; Sat, 29 May 1999 23:04:17 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org.uk (linux@raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA01174; Sat, 29 May 1999 23:03:34 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org.uk (8.7.4/8.7.3) id XAA03282; Sat, 29 May 1999 23:03:12 +0100 Message-Id: <199905292203.XAA03282@raistlin.armlinux.org.uk> Subject: Release of new 2.0.36 stuff To: linux-announce@zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk, linux-arm@zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 23:03:11 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux-arm@zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, For the moment, I'm going to use both linux-announce and linux-arm for now, since there's very few people on linux-announce yet. I've just finished uploading what I hope will be the final 2.0.36 kernel for the RiscPC, along with it's root disks. Could people please give me some feedback on this and let me know if it works for them? Thanks. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.linux.org.uk --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@lists.arm.linux.org.uk From owner-linux-arm@zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk Sun May 30 12:50:26 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) id MAA30751 for linux-arm-outgoing; Sun, 30 May 1999 12:50:26 +0100 Received: from caramon.armlinux.org.uk (root@du-003-0023.freeuk.com [212.126.148.23]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA30745 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 12:50:22 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org.uk (root@raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA03272; Sun, 30 May 1999 12:50:44 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org.uk (8.7.4/8.7.3) id MAA01167; Sun, 30 May 1999 12:49:07 +0100 Message-Id: <199905301149.MAA01167@raistlin.armlinux.org.uk> Subject: Re: 2.2.8-rmk on a netwinder To: sh990154@mail.uni-greifswald.de (Hanske;Stefan) Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 12:49:06 +0100 (BST) Cc: mpanetta@realminfo.com, linux-arm@zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk In-Reply-To: from "Hanske;Stefan" at May 28, 99 02:44:28 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux-arm@zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hanske;Stefan writes: > When the monitor goes to suspend mode after some time it can also mean > that it's unable to sync the current mode. Try to have a look at the > framebuffer driver you use and try changing the initial screen mode > parameters. The NetWinders do a hard reset after loading the kernel, so the VGA shuts down until the kernel boots. Unfortunately, like all Linux kernels now, the console is initialised rather late, so if something goes wrong, you don't get to know about it. This is a limitation of the way the kernel handles PCI, and it is unlikely to change. If you can't get the kernel to boot and suspect that the kernel is panicing, my suggestion is to drop in my debugging code into kernel/printk.c (after va_end, add printascii(buf+3);) and enable low level debugging for the NetWinder. You should then get kernel messages out of the serial port. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.linux.org.uk --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@lists.arm.linux.org.uk From owner-linux-arm@zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk Sun May 30 16:09:03 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) id QAA32465 for linux-arm-outgoing; Sun, 30 May 1999 16:09:03 +0100 Received: from mail.netwave.de (IDENT:root@smaug.netwave.de [194.162.128.45]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA32455 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 16:08:50 +0100 Received: from 195.185.99.152 (root@as-line47.hb.netwave.de [195.185.99.174]) by mail.netwave.de (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16523 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 16:08:48 +0200 Received: (qmail 3179 invoked by uid 1000); 30 May 1999 15:08:24 -0000 Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 17:08:24 +0200 From: Jan-Uwe Finck To: linux-arm@zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk Subject: Eh0 not running after ftp-install Message-ID: <19990530170824.A2700@mail.netwave.de> Reply-To: Jan-Uwe.Finck@bigfoot.de Mail-Followup-To: linux-arm@zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i Sender: owner-linux-arm@zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk Precedence: bulk hi, after installing my ARM-Linux via ftp using my x86-Linux box as a gateway I found out that my eth0-card isn't up anymore after rebooting. /proc/devices doesn't show any sign of a network-card although it is detected at bootup. The card itself is a brandnew upgraded i-cubed etherlan 600 now 600ax. Booting up reports a "delaying eth0 initialization", but no more concerning the network. Everryting else works fine. Besides I haven't been succesful with ifconfig, trying eh0 or eth0 as device. Any hints ? -- CU Jan-Uwe ------------------------------------------------- PGP-Public-Key on Request. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@lists.arm.linux.org.uk From owner-linux-arm@zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk Sun May 30 16:09:04 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) id QAA32463 for linux-arm-outgoing; Sun, 30 May 1999 16:09:04 +0100 Received: from mail.netwave.de (IDENT:root@smaug.netwave.de [194.162.128.45]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA32456 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 16:08:50 +0100 Received: from as-line47.hb.netwave.de (root@as-line47.hb.netwave.de [195.185.99.174]) by mail.netwave.de (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16524 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 16:08:48 +0200 Received: (qmail 3179 invoked by uid 1000); 30 May 1999 15:08:24 -0000 Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 17:08:24 +0200 From: Jan-Uwe Finck To: linux-arm@zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk Subject: Eh0 not running after ftp-install Message-ID: <19990530170824.A2700@mail.netwave.de> Reply-To: Jan-Uwe.Finck@bigfoot.de Mail-Followup-To: linux-arm@zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i Sender: owner-linux-arm@zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk Precedence: bulk hi, after installing my ARM-Linux via ftp using my x86-Linux box as a gateway I found out that my eth0-card isn't up anymore after rebooting. /proc/devices doesn't show any sign of a network-card although it is detected at bootup. The card itself is a brandnew upgraded i-cubed etherlan 600 now 600ax. Booting up reports a "delaying eth0 initialization", but no more concerning the network. Everryting else works fine. Besides I haven't been succesful with ifconfig, trying eh0 or eth0 as device. Any hints ? -- CU Jan-Uwe ------------------------------------------------- PGP-Public-Key on Request. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@lists.arm.linux.org.uk From owner-linux-arm@zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk Sun May 30 16:24:01 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) id QAA32599 for linux-arm-outgoing; Sun, 30 May 1999 16:24:01 +0100 Received: from mail.core.genedata.com (mentolat-e0.core.genedata.com [157.161.173.16]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA32595 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 16:23:59 +0100 Received: from relay.ch.genedata.com (pinatubo-e0.ch.genedata.com [157.161.173.48]) by mail.core.genedata.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA18239 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 17:23:58 +0200 Received: from mencheca.ch.genedata.com (root@mencheca.ch.genedata.com [157.161.173.82]) by relay.ch.genedata.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA527122 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 17:23:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: by genedata.com via sendmail from stdin id (Debian Smail3.2.0.102) for linux-arm@zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk; Sun, 30 May 1999 17:23:57 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 17:23:57 +0200 From: Matthew Wilcox To: linux-arm@zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk Subject: Re: Eh0 not running after ftp-install Message-ID: <19990530172357.K1410@mencheca.ch.genedata.com> References: <19990530170824.A2700@mail.netwave.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <19990530170824.A2700@mail.netwave.de>; from Jan-Uwe Finck on Sun, May 30, 1999 at 05:08:24PM +0200 Sender: owner-linux-arm@zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk Precedence: bulk On Sun, May 30, 1999 at 05:08:24PM +0200, Jan-Uwe Finck wrote: > after installing my ARM-Linux via ftp using my x86-Linux box as a gateway > I found out that my eth0-card isn't up anymore after rebooting. > /proc/devices doesn't show any sign of a network-card although it is detected > at bootup. No, it's not detected at bootup. That's just the kernel reading the podule bus. In any case, ethernet devices aren't reported within /proc/devices. You should `insmod etherh.o' somewhere in your boot scripts, preferably before it attempts to initialise the ethernet. > The card itself is a brandnew upgraded i-cubed etherlan 600 now 600ax. > Booting up reports a "delaying eth0 initialization", but no more concerning > the network. that indicates the driver isn't loaded. > Everryting else works fine. > > Besides I haven't been succesful with ifconfig, trying eh0 or eth0 as device. Linux uses eth0 irrespective of the card manufacturer. -- Matthew Wilcox "Windows and MacOS are products, contrived by engineers in the service of specific companies. Unix, by contrast, is not so much a product as it is a painstakingly compiled oral history of the hacker subculture." - N Stephenson unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@lists.arm.linux.org.uk From owner-linux-arm@zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk Mon May 31 12:35:31 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) id MAA08844 for linux-arm-outgoing; Mon, 31 May 1999 12:35:31 +0100 Received: from ntx.itri.org.tw (extmx.itri.org.tw [140.96.158.1]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA08840 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 12:35:26 +0100 Received: by ntx.itri.org.tw; (5.65v4.0/1.3/10May95) id AA15736; Mon, 31 May 1999 19:36:38 +0800 Received: from oax2.CCL.ITRI.Org.tw (oax2.ccl.itri.org.tw [140.96.110.211]) by nti.itri.org.tw (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA12972 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 19:35:41 +0800 (CST) Received: from xserver.ccl.itri.org.tw (xserver.ccl.itri.org.tw [140.96.120.200]) by oax2.CCL.ITRI.Org.tw (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA12226 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 19:36:24 +0800 (CST) Received: from csie.nctu.edu.tw by xserver.ccl.itri.org.tw (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA15904; Mon, 31 May 1999 19:26:48 +0800 Message-Id: <3752750D.1683E1DB@csie.nctu.edu.tw> Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 19:39:57 +0800 From: Min-Shong Lin Organization: X100 CCL ITRI X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: linux-arm@zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk Subject: about BRUTUS(SA1100) 64-bit Floating Point Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mime-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by nti.itri.org.tw id TAA12972 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk id MAA08841 Sender: owner-linux-arm@zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Hi, I am porting PersonalJava to Linux on Brutus(SA1100). I found that the 64-bit floating-point operations are weird. The 64-bit floating-point byte-order seems different from the 64-bit integer. Does anyone encounter such problem when porting JDKs or Linux ?? -- Min-Shong Lin (ªL±Ó¶¯) minslin@csie.nctu.edu.tw http://www.csie.nctu.edu.tw/~minslin X100, CCL, ITRI, Taiwan Phone: 886-3-5914611 unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@lists.arm.linux.org.uk From owner-linux-arm@zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk Mon May 31 14:17:42 1999 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) id OAA09608 for linux-arm-outgoing; Mon, 31 May 1999 14:17:42 +0100 Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net (finch-post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA09604 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 14:17:39 +0100 Received: from [158.152.220.239] (helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10oRwf-000DWx-0C; Mon, 31 May 1999 13:17:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org ident=phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 10oRU7-0005g1-00; Mon, 31 May 1999 13:48:07 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) To: Min-Shong Lin cc: linux-arm@zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk Subject: Re: about BRUTUS(SA1100) 64-bit Floating Point In-Reply-To: Message from Min-Shong Lin of "Mon, 31 May 1999 19:39:57 +0800." <3752750D.1683E1DB@csie.nctu.edu.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 13:48:06 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: Sender: owner-linux-arm@zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk Precedence: bulk > I found that the 64-bit floating-point operations are weird. > The 64-bit floating-point byte-order seems different from the 64-bit >integer. It is. ARMs use a peculiar hybrid big/little-endian format for floating point values; the bytes are laid out as big endian but the words are laid out as little endian. This is the result of a historical accident and unfortunately we are now pretty much stuck with it. If you used -msoft-float you could theoretically choose whatever format you like, but in practice compatibility with libc and so on means you would probably end up going along with the standard ARM format again. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@lists.arm.linux.org.uk