From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Aug 1 02:00:05 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id CAA27460 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 02:00:05 +0100 Received: (qmail 16272 invoked from network); 1 Aug 1999 01:00:03 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 1 Aug 1999 01:00:03 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 20:59:40 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 20:59:32 -0400 Received: from Hydro.CAM.ORG ([198.168.100.7]:64605 "EHLO Hydro.CAM.ORG") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 20:59:09 -0400 Received: from Ocean.CAM.ORG (Ocean.CAM.ORG [198.168.100.5]) by Hydro.CAM.ORG (8.8.8/8.8.4) with SMTP id UAA17650; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 20:58:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 20:59:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre To: Philip Blundell cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: smull In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing On Sat, 31 Jul 1999, Philip Blundell wrote: > >Any ideas how to trigger a smull from C code? > > Something like this: > > long long foo(long a, long b) > { > return (long long)a*(long long)b; > } > > foo: > @ args = 0, pretend = 0, frame = 0 > @ frame_needed = 0, current_function_anonymous_args = 0 > smull r2, r3, r0, r1 > mov r1, r3 > mov r0, r2 > mov pc, lr Unfortunately, I can't get better than this with the code above: foo: @ args = 0, pretend = 0, frame = 0 @ frame_needed = 0, current_function_anonymous_args = 0 stmfd sp!, {r4, r5, lr} mov r2, r1 mov r3, r2, asr #31 mov r4, r0 mov r5, r4, asr #31 mov r1, r5 mov r0, r4 ldmfd sp!, {r4, r5, lr} b __muldi3 a and b are always promoted to long long before the multiplication takes place... Any idea? Nicolas Pitre, B. ing. nico@cam.org unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Aug 1 09:41:19 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA31209 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 09:41:19 +0100 Received: (qmail 20243 invoked from network); 1 Aug 1999 08:41:18 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 1 Aug 1999 08:41:18 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 04:40:57 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 04:40:49 -0400 Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.20]:1704 "EHLO tele-post-20.mail.demon.net") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 04:40:41 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11ArAc-000GrL-0K; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 08:40:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org ident=phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11ArAU-0006bw-00; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 09:40:30 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) To: Nicolas Pitre cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: smull In-Reply-To: Message from Nicolas Pitre of "Sat, 31 Jul 1999 20:59:00 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 09:40:30 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing >Unfortunately, I can't get better than this with the code above: > >foo: > @ args = 0, pretend = 0, frame = 0 > @ frame_needed = 0, current_function_anonymous_args = 0 > stmfd sp!, {r4, r5, lr} > mov r2, r1 > mov r3, r2, asr #31 > mov r4, r0 > mov r5, r4, asr #31 > mov r1, r5 > mov r0, r4 > ldmfd sp!, {r4, r5, lr} > b __muldi3 > >a and b are always promoted to long long before the multiplication takes >place... Any idea? What version of GCC and what command line options are you using? Check for example that you have enabled ARMv4 instructions. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Aug 1 14:33:40 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA02391 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 14:33:40 +0100 Received: (qmail 6492 invoked from network); 1 Aug 1999 13:33:40 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 1 Aug 1999 13:33:40 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 09:33:07 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 09:32:59 -0400 Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.38]:1745 "EHLO finch-post-10.mail.demon.net") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 09:32:39 -0400 Received: from treblig.demon.co.uk ([194.222.210.232] helo=tardis) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11AvjB-0007gY-0A; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 13:32:38 +0000 Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 14:28:18 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Gilbert X-Sender: gilbertd@tardis.home.dave To: Nicolas Pitre cc: Philip Blundell , linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: smull In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing On Sat, 31 Jul 1999, Nicolas Pitre wrote: > On Sat, 31 Jul 1999, Philip Blundell wrote: > > > >Any ideas how to trigger a smull from C code? > > > > Something like this: > > > > long long foo(long a, long b) > > { > > return (long long)a*(long long)b; > > } Shouldn't that be long long foo(int a, int b) { return (long long)(a*b); } smull taking 32 bit values and giving a 64 out? Dave -------------------------------------------------------------------- / Dr. David Alan Gilbert | Running Linux on | Happy \ \ gro.gilbert @ treblig.org | Alpha, x86, ARM and SPARC | In Hex / ____________________________|___ http://www.treblig.demon.co.uk __/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Aug 1 14:58:27 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA03124 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 14:58:27 +0100 Received: (qmail 6932 invoked from network); 1 Aug 1999 13:58:26 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 1 Aug 1999 13:58:26 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 09:57:55 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 09:57:35 -0400 Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.38]:3667 "EHLO finch-post-10.mail.demon.net") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 09:57:19 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11Aw6y-0009OV-0A; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 13:57:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org ident=phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11Aw6p-0004LZ-00; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 14:57:03 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) To: Dave Gilbert cc: Nicolas Pitre , linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: smull In-Reply-To: Message from Dave Gilbert of "Sun, 01 Aug 1999 14:28:18 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 14:57:01 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing >Shouldn't that be > >long long foo(int a, int b) >{ > return (long long)(a*b); >} > >smull taking 32 bit values and giving a 64 out? Emperically, no -- that calculates a 32-bit product and then sign extends to 64 bits. I don't have a copy of the standard on hand to see what it says about automatic promotion in cases like this. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Aug 1 16:55:17 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA04438 for ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 16:55:17 +0100 Received: (qmail 27992 invoked from network); 1 Aug 1999 15:55:17 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 1 Aug 1999 15:55:17 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 11:54:28 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 11:54:13 -0400 Received: from Hydro.CAM.ORG ([198.168.100.7]:46430 "EHLO Hydro.CAM.ORG") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 11:49:38 -0400 Received: from Ocean.CAM.ORG (Ocean.CAM.ORG [198.168.100.5]) by Hydro.CAM.ORG (8.8.8/8.8.4) with SMTP id LAA07813; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 11:48:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 11:48:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre To: Philip Blundell cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: smull In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing On Sun, 1 Aug 1999, Philip Blundell wrote: > What version of GCC and what command line options are you using? Check for > example that you have enabled ARMv4 instructions. Aaaahhhh! Right... Forgot about ARMv4. Thanks! Nicolas Pitre, B. ing. nico@cam.org unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Aug 2 04:35:03 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id EAA09974 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 04:35:03 +0100 Received: (qmail 6324 invoked from network); 2 Aug 1999 03:35:03 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 2 Aug 1999 03:35:03 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 23:34:41 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 23:34:34 -0400 Received: from Hydro.CAM.ORG ([198.168.100.7]:49630 "EHLO Hydro.CAM.ORG") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 23:34:23 -0400 Received: from Ocean.CAM.ORG (Ocean.CAM.ORG [198.168.100.5]) by Hydro.CAM.ORG (8.8.8/8.8.4) with SMTP id XAA05314; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 23:33:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 23:34:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre To: devel@netwinder.org cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: open source mp3 player for ARM In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Hi! On ftp.netwinder.org/users/n/nico you'll find splay-0.81-fixpoint.tgz which is a version of splay that we modified for fixed point math. There is still some work to do on optimizing the code. The assembly generated by the compiler isn't as nice as it could be, but at least it works! It compiles for both fixed and floating point -- just undefine FIXED_POINT in mpegsound.h if you want floating point instead (useful for testing but on a PC). Please read README.ARM before you compile this. If you have any comments, please feel free to send them to me. However don't expect any feedback from me for about two weeks as I'm going on vacation away from my computer! :) Enjoy! Nicolas Pitre, B. ing. nico@cam.org unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Aug 2 12:40:00 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA12268 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:40:00 +0100 Received: (qmail 15933 invoked from network); 2 Aug 1999 11:39:55 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 2 Aug 1999 11:39:54 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 07:39:24 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 07:39:09 -0400 Received: from smaug.netwave.de ([194.162.128.45]:17504 "EHLO mail.netwave.de") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 07:37:52 -0400 Received: from otaku.nerdnet.de (postfix@as-line12.hb.netwave.de [195.185.99.139]) by mail.netwave.de (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA32752 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 13:37:49 +0200 Received: by otaku.nerdnet.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4C00D275CB; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 13:37:08 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 13:37:08 +0200 From: Jan-Uwe Finck To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Kernel patching.. Message-ID: <19990802133708.A1077@mail.netwave.de> Reply-To: Jan-Uwe.Finck@bigfoot.de Mail-Followup-To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Hmm.. after failing to patch 2.2.10, I wonder if I have to use all the three patches or just the latest, I assume only the latest, right ? Sorry, I think I should be more clear : Patching itself with only the latest patch works normally, no mistkae, even make dep && make clean gives no rumours.. but the Kernel-compiling itself stops immediately with the following error : [root@riscy linux]# make zImage gcc -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -o scripts/split-include scripts/split-include.c scripts/split-include include/linux/autoconf.h include/config gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -m6 -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -pipe -c -o init/main.o init/main.c init/main.c:400: section attributes are not supported for this target init/main.c:539: section attributes are not supported for this target init/main.c:867: section attributes are not supported for this target make: *** [init/main.o] Error 1 Any ideas ? I suppose the solution is simple, but have mercy.. :-) -- CU Jan-Uwe ------------------------------------------------- PGP-Public-Key on Request. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Aug 2 13:01:34 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA12412 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 13:01:32 +0100 Received: (qmail 18667 invoked from network); 2 Aug 1999 12:01:32 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 2 Aug 1999 12:01:32 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 08:01:02 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 08:00:49 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:10304 "EHLO globe.nexus.co.uk") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 08:00:25 -0400 Received: from [192.0.0.21] (helo=fountain.nexus.co.uk ident=mail) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11BGhE-0005mM-00; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:56:00 +0100 Received: from fountain.nexus.co.uk ([::ffff:127.0.0.1] ident=pb) by fountain.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #4) id 11BGhE-0001r3-00; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:56:00 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) To: Jan-Uwe.Finck@bigfoot.de cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Kernel patching.. In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 02 Aug 1999 13:37:08 +0200." <19990802133708.A1077@mail.netwave.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 12:56:00 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing >[root@riscy linux]# make zImage >gcc -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -o scripts/split-include >scripts/split-include.c >scripts/split-include include/linux/autoconf.h include/config >gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -m6 -Wall >-Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -pipe -c -o init/main.o init/main.c >init/main.c:400: section attributes are not supported for this target >init/main.c:539: section attributes are not supported for this target >init/main.c:867: section attributes are not supported for this target >make: *** [init/main.o] Error 1 > >Any ideas ? >I suppose the solution is simple, but have mercy.. :-) Sounds like you might be trying to use an old a.out compiler. What does `gcc -v' say? p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Aug 2 15:46:02 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA13407 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 15:46:01 +0100 Received: (qmail 7217 invoked from network); 2 Aug 1999 14:46:01 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 2 Aug 1999 14:46:01 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:45:22 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:45:13 -0400 Received: from smaug.netwave.de ([194.162.128.45]:27657 "EHLO mail.netwave.de") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:42:36 -0400 Received: from otaku.nerdnet.de (postfix@as-line47.hb.netwave.de [195.185.99.174]) by mail.netwave.de (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA05684 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 16:42:37 +0200 Received: by otaku.nerdnet.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 31194275CB; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 16:42:32 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 16:42:32 +0200 From: Jan-Uwe Finck To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Kernel patching.. Message-ID: <19990802164232.B1077@mail.netwave.de> Reply-To: Jan-Uwe.Finck@bigfoot.de Mail-Followup-To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu References: <19990802133708.A1077@mail.netwave.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i In-Reply-To: ; from Philip Blundell on Mon, Aug 02, 1999 at 12:56:00PM +0100 Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing On Mon, Aug 02, 1999 at 12:56:00PM +0100, Philip Blundell wrote: > >Any ideas ? > >I suppose the solution is simple, but have mercy.. :-) > > Sounds like you might be trying to use an old a.out compiler. What does `gcc > -v' say? Once again my mistake..always give _any_ useful information to the others.. :-) It's gcc version 2.7.2.2 ! Just from the standard installation from the ftp-server.. 2.0.36 had no problems with this, so I thought I'll try 2.2.10.. This is too old, right ? Do I have to build a new toolchain ? I suppose so.. -- CU Jan-Uwe ------------------------------------------------- PGP-Public-Key on Request. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Aug 2 15:54:27 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA13454 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 15:54:27 +0100 Received: (qmail 8853 invoked from network); 2 Aug 1999 14:54:26 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 2 Aug 1999 14:54:26 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:53:47 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:53:42 -0400 Received: from [195.89.188.122] ([195.89.188.122]:1911 "HELO linuxhacker.org") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:52:23 -0400 Received: (qmail 8120 invoked by uid 0); 2 Aug 1999 14:57:37 -0000 Received: from localhost (alex@127.0.0.1) by linuxhacker.org with SMTP; 2 Aug 1999 14:57:37 -0000 Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 15:57:36 +0100 (GMT) From: Alex Holden To: Jan-Uwe.Finck@bigfoot.de cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Kernel patching.. In-Reply-To: <19990802133708.A1077@mail.netwave.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing On Mon, 2 Aug 1999, Jan-Uwe Finck wrote: > gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -m6 -Wall > -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -pipe -c -o init/main.o init/main.c > init/main.c:400: section attributes are not supported for this target What compiler and binutils are you using? Does it compile ordinary programs okay? Have you tried turning off the "Split text into discardable sections" kernel option? --------------- Linux- the choice of a GNU generation. -------------- : Alex Holden (M1CJD)- Caver, Programmer, Land Rover nut, Radio Ham : -------------------- http://www.linuxhacker.org/ -------------------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Aug 2 15:54:29 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA13460 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 15:54:29 +0100 Received: (qmail 8869 invoked from network); 2 Aug 1999 14:54:27 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 2 Aug 1999 14:54:27 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:53:46 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:52:50 -0400 Received: from [194.168.16.171] ([194.168.16.171]:2723 "EHLO caramon.armlinux.org.uk") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:52:12 -0400 Received: from flint.armlinux.org.uk (root@flint [192.168.0.4]) by caramon.armlinux.org.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA10645; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 15:52:38 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by flint.armlinux.org.uk (8.8.7/8.7.3) id PAA06872; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 15:51:36 +0100 Message-Id: <199908021451.PAA06872@flint.armlinux.org.uk> Subject: Re: Kernel patching.. To: Jan-Uwe.Finck@bigfoot.de Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 15:51:35 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <19990802164232.B1077@mail.netwave.de> from "Jan-Uwe Finck" at Aug 2, 99 04:42:32 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Jan-Uwe Finck writes: > 2.0.36 had no problems with this, so I thought I'll try 2.2.10.. Correct, 2.2.10 needs the new tool chain. > This is too old, right ? Do I have to build a new toolchain ? I suppose > so.. Correct again. Yes. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.linux.org.uk --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Aug 2 16:31:35 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA13775 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 16:31:35 +0100 Received: (qmail 14965 invoked from network); 2 Aug 1999 15:31:35 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 2 Aug 1999 15:31:35 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 11:29:44 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 11:28:40 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:10682 "EHLO globe.nexus.co.uk") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 11:20:29 -0400 Received: from [192.0.0.21] (helo=fountain.nexus.co.uk ident=mail) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11BJd4-0006AS-00; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 16:03:54 +0100 Received: from fountain.nexus.co.uk ([::ffff:127.0.0.1] ident=pb) by fountain.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #4) id 11BJd4-0001y5-00; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 16:03:54 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) To: Alex Holden cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Kernel patching.. In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 02 Aug 1999 15:57:36 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 16:03:53 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing In message , Alex Holden writes: >On Mon, 2 Aug 1999, Jan-Uwe Finck wrote: >> gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -m6 -Wall >> -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -pipe -c -o init/main.o init/main.c >> init/main.c:400: section attributes are not supported for this target > >What compiler and binutils are you using? Does it compile ordinary >programs okay? Have you tried turning off the "Split text into discardable >sections" kernel option? That won't help; you still need sections for the exception handling stuff at least. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Aug 2 16:33:41 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA13800 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 16:33:35 +0100 Received: (qmail 15719 invoked from network); 2 Aug 1999 15:33:35 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 2 Aug 1999 15:33:35 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 11:29:45 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 11:28:46 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:10677 "EHLO globe.nexus.co.uk") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 11:20:22 -0400 Received: from [192.0.0.21] (helo=fountain.nexus.co.uk ident=mail) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11BJfZ-0006Aa-00; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 16:06:29 +0100 Received: from fountain.nexus.co.uk ([::ffff:127.0.0.1] ident=pb) by fountain.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #4) id 11BJfZ-0001yZ-00; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 16:06:29 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) To: Jan-Uwe.Finck@bigfoot.de cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Kernel patching.. In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 02 Aug 1999 16:42:32 +0200." <19990802164232.B1077@mail.netwave.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 16:06:29 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing In message <19990802164232.B1077@mail.netwave.de>, Jan-Uwe Finck writes: >It's gcc version 2.7.2.2 ! [...] >This is too old, right ? Do I have to build a new toolchain ? Got it in one. You could try using the Debian binaries if you don't feel like compiling one yourself. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Aug 2 16:45:48 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA13898 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 16:45:43 +0100 Received: (qmail 18065 invoked from network); 2 Aug 1999 15:45:42 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 2 Aug 1999 15:45:42 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 11:45:02 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 11:42:59 -0400 Received: from smaug.netwave.de ([194.162.128.45]:30933 "EHLO mail.netwave.de") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 11:41:38 -0400 Received: from otaku.nerdnet.de (postfix@as-line59.hb.netwave.de [195.185.99.186]) by mail.netwave.de (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA06981 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 17:41:36 +0200 Received: by otaku.nerdnet.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0BDC4275CB; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 17:41:31 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 17:41:31 +0200 From: Jan-Uwe Finck To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Kernel patching.. Message-ID: <19990802174131.C1077@mail.netwave.de> Reply-To: Jan-Uwe.Finck@bigfoot.de Mail-Followup-To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i In-Reply-To: ; from Philip Blundell on Mon, Aug 02, 1999 at 04:03:53PM +0100 Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing On Mon, Aug 02, 1999 at 04:03:53PM +0100, Philip Blundell wrote: > In message , Alex Anyway, I'll try my luck with a new toolchain. I'll be back crying for help if it doesn't work.. :-) Thanks for any comments ! -- CU Jan-Uwe ------------------------------------------------- PGP-Public-Key on Request. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Aug 2 18:26:54 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA14482 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 18:26:49 +0100 Received: (qmail 31658 invoked from network); 2 Aug 1999 17:26:48 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 2 Aug 1999 17:26:48 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 13:25:40 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 13:24:18 -0400 Received: from [194.168.16.191] ([194.168.16.191]:2747 "EHLO caramon.armlinux.org.uk") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 13:21:58 -0400 Received: from flint.armlinux.org.uk (root@flint [192.168.0.4]) by caramon.armlinux.org.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA11210; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 18:22:44 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by flint.armlinux.org.uk (8.8.7/8.7.3) id SAA07195; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 18:21:29 +0100 Message-Id: <199908021721.SAA07195@flint.armlinux.org.uk> Subject: Re: Kernel patching.. To: pb@nexus.co.uk (Philip Blundell) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 18:21:29 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Philip Blundell" at Aug 2, 99 04:03:53 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Philip Blundell writes: >... > >programs okay? Have you tried turning off the "Split text into discardable > >sections" kernel option? > > That won't help; you still need sections for the exception handling stuff at > least. That option does not affect the exception handling. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.linux.org.uk --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Aug 2 19:07:55 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA14804 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 19:07:55 +0100 Received: (qmail 4734 invoked from network); 2 Aug 1999 18:07:55 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 2 Aug 1999 18:07:55 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 14:07:24 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 14:07:16 -0400 Received: from neon-best.transmeta.com ([206.184.214.10]:16458 "EHLO neon.transmeta.com") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 14:06:59 -0400 Received: from deepthought.transmeta.com (mailhost.transmeta.com [10.1.1.15]) by neon.transmeta.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA28992 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 11:06:47 -0700 Received: from barium.transmeta.com (sullivan@barium.transmeta.com [10.1.52.15]) by deepthought.transmeta.com (8.8.8+spamcan/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA10907; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 11:06:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by barium.transmeta.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA02902; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 11:06:42 -0700 Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 11:06:42 -0700 From: sullivan@transmeta.com (John Sullivan) Message-Id: <199908021806.LAA02902@barium.transmeta.com> To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Cross-compiling distributions? Cc: sullivan@transmeta.com X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Greetings, I've been working on bringing up the ARM Linux kernel on a custom system. This effort has been successful, and I can boot a basic RAM disk image (loaded from ROM) with /bin/sh linked to /sbin/init, and run small programs. I'd like to install a smallish-sized set of standard applications and tools on the system. However, due to connectivity and space constraints, it's impractical for me to actually build any SW on the target machine. Unfortunately, I also don't have access to another ARM-based systems. Are there well-known tricks to cross-compile any of the standard distributions for ARM Linux on an Intel-based Linux machine? It seems to me that my options are to either: 1. Pull together pre-compiled binaries out of an existing distribution and reorganize them to get just the applications I need. 2. Hack up the configure scripts and Makefiles in the source code or SRPMS for an existing distribution so that they compile binaries using the linux-arm cross development versions of GCC, glibc, etc. If there's a better way to do this that will save me some time, that would be great. I assume someone else must have gone through this before. Regards, John Sullivan unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Aug 2 19:29:41 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA14902 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 19:29:41 +0100 Received: (qmail 7427 invoked from network); 2 Aug 1999 18:29:41 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 2 Aug 1999 18:29:41 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 14:29:20 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 14:29:08 -0400 Received: from smaug.netwave.de ([194.162.128.45]:8259 "EHLO mail.netwave.de") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 14:28:37 -0400 Received: from otaku.nerdnet.de (postfix@as-line59.hb.netwave.de [195.185.99.186]) by mail.netwave.de (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA10950 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 20:28:30 +0200 Received: by otaku.nerdnet.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E2A0F275CB; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 20:28:20 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 20:28:20 +0200 From: Jan-Uwe Finck To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: patching of egcs-1.1.2 failed.. Message-ID: <19990802202820.B2179@mail.netwave.de> Reply-To: Jan-Uwe.Finck@bigfoot.de Mail-Followup-To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Hi, it's me again.. Right now I'm stuck at patching the egcs. The diff suddenly tells me several times some sort of : --snip-- Patching file gcc/configure.in using Plan A... Hunk #1 succeeded at 532. Hmm... The next patch looks like a unified diff to me... The text leading up to this was: -------------------------- |diff -u --recursive --new-file clean/egcs-1.1.2/gcc/cp/parse.c egcs-1.1.2/gcc/cp/parse.c |--- clean/egcs-1.1.2/gcc/cp/parse.c Thu Mar 25 11:01:35 1999 |+++ egcs-1.1.2/gcc/cp/parse.c Thu Mar 25 11:05:45 1999 -------------------------- File to patch: --snip-- As far as I understand, there's something missing or otherwise wrong. But ignoring those errors leads to a failure in compiling gcc afterwards.. I'm sure I read something like this here on the list, but I couldn't find an actual archive, at least not from the www.arm.linux.org.uk-WebPage.., so I'm here again, asking silly questions.. ;-) Any comments anybody ? P.S.: the binutils are compiled and installed, kernel is still 2.0.36. -- CU Jan-Uwe ------------------------------------------------- PGP-Public-Key on Request. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Aug 2 21:27:48 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA15865 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 21:27:48 +0100 Received: (qmail 21682 invoked from network); 2 Aug 1999 20:27:48 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 2 Aug 1999 20:27:48 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 16:27:19 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 16:26:44 -0400 Received: from mailhost.mipsys.com ([62.161.177.33]:8001 "EHLO [62.161.177.33]") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 16:26:15 -0400 Received: from 192.168.1.10 by 192.168.1.2 with SMTP (QuickMail Pro Server for MacOS 1.1.2); 02-Aug-1999 22:31:37 +0200 X-Mailer: CTM PowerMail 2.3.1 x-sender: benh@mail.mipsys.com Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 22:27:14 +0200 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt Subject: EBSA285 flash driver Message-Id: <19990802222714.006088@mail.mipsys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Hi all ! The latest CVS tree contains a small driver for the EBSA flash that mainly consist in mmap'ing the flash to user space. Is there a corresponding userland flash utility available ? For my board, I have hacked nwflash, but since the main goal of this hack was to make conditional the netwinder specific stuffs (cpld, leds, ...), I beleive it could be replaced by a userland tool. Benjamin. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Aug 2 22:03:30 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA16275 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 22:03:30 +0100 Received: (qmail 24657 invoked from network); 2 Aug 1999 21:03:30 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 2 Aug 1999 21:03:30 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 17:02:59 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 17:02:43 -0400 Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.20]:4366 "EHLO tele-post-20.mail.demon.net") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 17:02:21 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11BPDv-0006zZ-0K for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 21:02:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org ident=phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11BPDj-0006IT-00 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 22:02:07 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: patching of egcs-1.1.2 failed.. In-Reply-To: Message from Jan-Uwe Finck of "Mon, 02 Aug 1999 20:28:20 +0200." <19990802202820.B2179@mail.netwave.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 22:02:06 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Jan-Uwe Finck wrote: >Hi, it's me again.. >Right now I'm stuck at patching the egcs. The diff suddenly tells me >several times some sort of : Use gcc 2.95 instead; it's less buggy than egcs 1.1.2. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Aug 2 22:07:31 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA16305 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 22:07:31 +0100 Received: (qmail 25454 invoked from network); 2 Aug 1999 21:07:30 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 2 Aug 1999 21:07:30 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 17:07:00 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 17:06:54 -0400 Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.41]:1960 "EHLO finch-post-12.mail.demon.net") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 17:05:49 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11BPHH-000Kbl-0C; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 21:05:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org ident=phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11BPHD-0006Ks-00; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 22:05:43 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: EBSA285 flash driver In-Reply-To: Message from Benjamin Herrenschmidt of "Mon, 02 Aug 1999 22:27:14 +0200." <19990802222714.006088@mail.mipsys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 22:05:42 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing >The latest CVS tree contains a small driver for the EBSA flash that >mainly consist in mmap'ing the flash to user space. Is there a >corresponding userland flash utility available ? For my board, I have It's not possible to write a completely generic flash driver because every flash part needs to be poked differently. In fact you don't *need* any kernel support at all; you can mmap /dev/mem directly if you know where the hardware is located. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Aug 2 22:23:51 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA16607 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 22:23:51 +0100 Received: (qmail 26785 invoked from network); 2 Aug 1999 21:23:50 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 2 Aug 1999 21:23:50 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 17:23:10 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 17:23:04 -0400 Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.41]:3550 "EHLO finch-post-12.mail.demon.net") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 17:21:27 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11BPWP-000Lfy-0C; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 21:21:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org ident=phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11BPWL-0006Mf-00; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 22:21:21 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) To: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Kernel patching.. In-Reply-To: Message from Russell King - ARM Linux Admin of "Mon, 02 Aug 1999 18:21:29 BST." <199908021721.SAA07195@flint.armlinux.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 22:21:20 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Russell King wrote: >Philip Blundell writes: >> >programs okay? Have you tried turning off the "Split text into discardable >> >sections" kernel option? >> >> That won't help; you still need sections for the exception handling stuff at >> least. > >That option does not affect the exception handling. Yup, that's why it won't help. Actually there isn't all that much use for that option at all really - it would be better to teach the makefiles how to tell the difference between the versions of ld that work with the .init stuff and those that don't (which, as it happens, we have to do anyway for other reasons). Leaving it up to the user to choose just means that people get it wrong. (Unless anyone can think of a reason why you'd want to not use .init other than it not working, at any rate.) p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Aug 2 22:25:37 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA16631 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 22:25:37 +0100 Received: (qmail 26898 invoked from network); 2 Aug 1999 21:25:32 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 2 Aug 1999 21:25:32 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 17:24:59 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 17:24:43 -0400 Received: from galatea-32.cableol.net ([194.168.16.32]:2935 "EHLO caramon.armlinux.org.uk") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 17:24:31 -0400 Received: from flint.armlinux.org.uk (root@flint [192.168.0.4]) by caramon.armlinux.org.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA12056; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 22:25:40 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by flint.armlinux.org.uk (8.8.7/8.7.3) id WAA07761; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 22:24:05 +0100 Message-Id: <199908022124.WAA07761@flint.armlinux.org.uk> Subject: Re: Kernel patching.. To: Philip.Blundell@pobox.com (Philip Blundell) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 22:24:05 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Philip Blundell" at Aug 2, 99 10:21:20 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Philip Blundell writes: > Yup, that's why it won't help. Actually there isn't all that much use for > that option at all really - it would be better to teach the makefiles how to > tell the difference between the versions of ld that work with the .init stuff > and those that don't (which, as it happens, we have to do anyway for other > reasons). Leaving it up to the user to choose just means that people get it > wrong. I was thinking about disabling the option actually. AFAIK from what you've said, there are no versions which work correctly. The last email I had from you was something like "I don't forsee the need to fix it". ;( _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.linux.org.uk --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Aug 2 22:27:03 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA16647 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 22:27:03 +0100 Received: (qmail 27020 invoked from network); 2 Aug 1999 21:27:03 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 2 Aug 1999 21:27:03 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 17:26:30 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 17:26:12 -0400 Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.41]:3834 "EHLO finch-post-12.mail.demon.net") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 17:26:06 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11BPaw-000Lsg-0C; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 21:26:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org ident=phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11BPat-0006N6-00; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 22:26:03 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) To: sullivan@transmeta.com (John Sullivan) cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Cross-compiling distributions? In-Reply-To: Message from sullivan@transmeta.com (John Sullivan) of "Mon, 02 Aug 1999 11:06:42 PDT." <199908021806.LAA02902@barium.transmeta.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 22:26:03 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing >Are there well-known tricks to cross-compile any of the standard >distributions for ARM Linux on an Intel-based Linux machine? It seems >to me that my options are to either: Depends very much on the software in question. Sometimes you can just say "CC=arm-linux-gcc ./configure" and everything will be peachy. The trouble is that a lot of configure scripts rely on being able to execute test programs. >1. Pull together pre-compiled binaries out of an existing distribution > and reorganize them to get just the applications I need. This would probably be my choice. You can fairly easily unpick both Debian and RedHat package files to get a plain cpio archive containing the binaries. Most common software has already been compiled and this is usually easier than fighting with a cross compiler. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Aug 3 11:39:48 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA21928 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 11:39:48 +0100 Received: (qmail 8174 invoked from network); 3 Aug 1999 10:39:47 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 3 Aug 1999 10:39:47 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 06:36:35 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 06:36:12 -0400 Received: from chaos.wg.com ([198.85.47.240]:50744 "EHLO chaos.wg.com") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 06:33:29 -0400 Received: from wg.com ([198.85.45.243]) by chaos.wg.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id GAA01372 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 06:20:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wg.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.4 (830.2 3-23-1999)) id 852567C2.0039C8B3 ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 06:31:09 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: GLOBAL From: arnaud.brodier@wwgsolutions.com To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Message-ID: <852567C2.0039C803.00@wg.com> Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 11:32:36 +0100 Subject: entry_point Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Hello, Here is some 'basic questions": This is what my "System.map" looks like. (only the beginning) ( I have a brutus-like board, and I load the kernel into the RAM) 00000000 A _text c0004000 A swapper_pg_dir c0008000 A __init_begin c0008000 T _stext c0008000 T stext c000802c t __entry Does that mean the kernel (vmlinux) must be loaded at c0008000, and carried out at c000802c ? ( I mean, from the board, when I want to carry out the kernel, I must have something like "call c000802c"?) Is it possible to have the loading address and the executing address both at c0000000 ? Thanks Arnaud unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Aug 3 11:59:55 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA22056 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 11:59:55 +0100 Received: (qmail 9855 invoked from network); 3 Aug 1999 10:59:54 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 3 Aug 1999 10:59:54 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 06:59:34 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 06:59:16 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:11148 "EHLO globe.nexus.co.uk") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 06:58:49 -0400 Received: from [192.0.0.21] (helo=fountain.nexus.co.uk ident=mail) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11BcFT-0007JP-00; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 11:56:47 +0100 Received: from [::ffff:127.0.0.1] (helo=fountain.nexus.co.uk ident=pb) by fountain.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #4) id 11BcFT-0002s9-00; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 11:56:47 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) To: arnaud.brodier@wwgsolutions.com cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: entry_point In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 03 Aug 1999 11:32:36 BST." <852567C2.0039C803.00@wg.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 11:56:46 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing >Does that mean the kernel (vmlinux) must be loaded at c0008000, and carried >out at c000802c ? >( I mean, from the board, when I want to carry out the kernel, I must have >something like "call c000802c"?) You should indeed load at 0xc0008000. On the SA-1100 you end up with the Angel bootstrap code at 0xc0008000 and the real kernel entry at 0xc000802c. I think the intention is that you always start executing at 0xc0008000; if you don't use Angel you probably ought to fiddle the code so that the appropriate bits are left out. In a flat kernel binary (Image/zImage) there is no symbol or entry-address information so starting at the first instruction is pretty much the only option. >Is it possible to have the loading address and the executing address both at >c0000000 ? It's possible but it wouldn't be completely trivial. Why do you want to do this? p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Aug 3 12:28:17 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA22248 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 12:28:17 +0100 Received: (qmail 13031 invoked from network); 3 Aug 1999 11:28:17 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 3 Aug 1999 11:28:17 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 07:27:47 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 07:27:37 -0400 Received: from lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk ([130.209.16.18]:60943 "EHLO lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 07:26:27 -0400 Received: from localhost (9606585c@localhost) by lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA10632; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 12:25:57 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 12:25:57 +0100 (BST) From: James Craig <9606585c@udcf.gla.ac.uk> X-Sender: 9606585c@lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk To: Philip Blundell cc: Benjamin Herrenschmidt , linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: EBSA285 flash driver In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing On Mon, 2 Aug 1999, Philip Blundell wrote: > >The latest CVS tree contains a small driver for the EBSA flash that > >mainly consist in mmap'ing the flash to user space. Is there a > >corresponding userland flash utility available ? For my board, I have > > It's not possible to write a completely generic flash driver because every > flash part needs to be poked differently. In fact you don't *need* any kernel > support at all; you can mmap /dev/mem directly if you know where the hardware > is located. There's a link for a very very generic flash programming util (in userland) in among the OpenBIOS junk somewhere. It's damned good actually - it's designed for reprogramming PC and Alpha BIOS ROMs. I think it's just called "devbios" or something. Anyway, it should manage to reflash things with most of the modern flash ROMs - Intel, AMD, Winbond etc. -- James Craig <9606585c@udcf.gla.ac.uk> unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Aug 3 22:52:16 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA28710 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 22:52:15 +0100 Received: (qmail 2244 invoked from network); 3 Aug 1999 21:52:15 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 3 Aug 1999 21:52:15 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 17:51:18 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 17:48:43 -0400 Received: from planetd.ak.planet.gen.nz ([202.20.65.16]:61424 "EHLO planet.ak.planet.gen.nz") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 17:30:16 -0400 Received: from manukau.ak.planet.gen.nz (as5200-07.ak.planet.gen.nz [202.20.65.137]) by planet.ak.planet.gen.nz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA26183 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 09:25:24 +1200 (NZST) Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 17:59:46 +0000 (GMT) From: Royal Oak Intermediate Subject: partition problem To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: Organisation name, location. Telephone/Fax? X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.46] Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Hello, all-- I'm trying to install ARM linux, but have run into a problem. I downloaded the latest distribution from ftp.arm.linux.org and think I have the proper items. However, !PartMan (latest version I can find is 7 Nov 97) does not save my partition table to disk. Neither does fdisk from the installer. I'm trying to load this on a RiscPC 600 with a Quantum 1.2GB HDD. My filecore partition ends at cyl 360, so I shouldn't be running into the cyl 1024 bug that PCs seem to have (is this a problem with ARM linux, too???). Any help would be appreciated, as would any comments from anyone who has tried WINE over ARM Linux. Thanks! Dan Loeb IT coordinator -- Royal Oak Intermediate New Zealand Email: dan@royaloakint.school.nz unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Aug 3 23:43:02 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA29453 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 23:43:02 +0100 Received: (qmail 11734 invoked from network); 3 Aug 1999 22:43:02 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 3 Aug 1999 22:43:02 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 18:35:46 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 18:23:56 -0400 Received: from spanner.eng.cam.ac.uk ([129.169.8.9]:2052 "EHLO spanner.eng.cam.ac.uk") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 18:01:53 -0400 Received: from cramp.eng.cam.ac.uk (via root@cramp.eng.cam.ac.uk [129.169.9.4]) by spanner.eng.cam.ac.uk with ESMTP id XAA28461; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 23:01:57 +0100 (BST) Received: from punch.eng.cam.ac.uk (via jcj1000@punch.eng.cam.ac.uk [129.169.16.6]) by cramp.eng.cam.ac.uk with SMTP id XAA25261; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 23:01:56 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 23:01:56 +0100 (BST) From: John Joyce Reply-To: jcjoyce@iee.org To: Royal Oak Intermediate cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: partition problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing On Tue, 3 Aug 1999, Royal Oak Intermediate wrote: > I'm trying to install ARM linux, but have run into a problem. I downloaded > the latest distribution from ftp.arm.linux.org and think I have the proper > items. However, !PartMan (latest version I can find is 7 Nov 97) does not > save my partition table to disk. Neither does fdisk from the installer. > > I'm trying to load this on a RiscPC 600 with a Quantum 1.2GB HDD. My > filecore partition ends at cyl 360, so I shouldn't be running into the cyl > 1024 bug that PCs seem to have (is this a problem with ARM linux, too???). You need the latest !PartMan. Try looking at ftp://ftp.arm.uk.linux.org/pub/armlinux/testing/partman-1.13-alpha13-dev2.arc You will need to tell it the correct drive geometry. hth John Joyce unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Aug 3 23:43:24 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA29473 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 23:43:24 +0100 Received: (qmail 11833 invoked from network); 3 Aug 1999 22:43:23 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 3 Aug 1999 22:43:23 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 18:35:47 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 18:24:09 -0400 Received: from smaug.netwave.de ([194.162.128.45]:17092 "EHLO mail.netwave.de") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 18:05:51 -0400 Received: from otaku.nerdnet.de (postfix@as-line16.hb.netwave.de [195.185.99.143]) by mail.netwave.de (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA14242 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 00:05:48 +0200 Received: by otaku.nerdnet.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9CD76275E1; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 19:15:09 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 19:15:09 +0200 From: Jan-Uwe Finck To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: This time it's gcc... :-( Message-ID: <19990803191509.A501@mail.netwave.de> Reply-To: Jan-Uwe.Finck@bigfoot.de Mail-Followup-To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing I _hate_ to ask again.. Anyway, I fetched gcc-2.95, patched in /gcc-2.95/gcc , configured it by ./configure arm-linux --prefix=/usr , and typed make LANGUAGES="c", and the result is a bug after some Lines : [root@riscy gcc]# make LANGUAGES="c" gcc -DIN_GCC -g -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -o cccp cccp.o cexp.o intl.o prefix.o version.o mbchar.o obstack.o ../libiberty/libiberty.a gcc: ../libiberty/libiberty.a: No such file or directory make: *** [cccp] Error 1 I checked it, the file is non-existent, but I couldn't manage to find the appropiate line in the Makefile to comment it out or even look at it.This means I'm stuck again.. (what a pain, but I want to build the toolchain completely on my own..) I'm sure the solution is simple again... old Kernel 2.0.36, binutils-2.9.0.1.25 installed. -- CU Jan-Uwe ------------------------------------------------- PGP-Public-Key on Request. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Aug 4 08:52:10 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA32712 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 08:52:09 +0100 Received: (qmail 23147 invoked from network); 4 Aug 1999 07:52:08 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 4 Aug 1999 07:52:08 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 03:51:11 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 03:49:09 -0400 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU ([129.94.242.29]:2135 "HELO note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 03:47:41 -0400 Received: From paulaner With LocalMail ; Wed, 4 Aug 99 17:46:48 +1000 From: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" To: Jan-Uwe.Finck@bigfoot.de Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 17:46:35 +1000 (EST) X-Sender: awiggins@paulaner.disy.cse.unsw.EDU.AU cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: This time it's gcc... :-( In-Reply-To: <19990803191509.A501@mail.netwave.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing I had the same problem, I was in a rush (plane to catch) so I didn't explore it. Cheers Adam On Tue, 3 Aug 1999, Jan-Uwe Finck wrote: > I _hate_ to ask again.. > Anyway, I fetched gcc-2.95, patched in /gcc-2.95/gcc , configured it > by ./configure arm-linux --prefix=/usr , and typed make LANGUAGES="c", > and the result is a bug after some Lines : > > [root@riscy gcc]# make LANGUAGES="c" > gcc -DIN_GCC -g -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -o cccp cccp.o cexp.o intl.o > prefix.o version.o mbchar.o obstack.o > ../libiberty/libiberty.a > gcc: ../libiberty/libiberty.a: No such file or directory > make: *** [cccp] Error 1 > > I checked it, the file is non-existent, but I couldn't manage to find > the appropiate line in the Makefile to comment it out or even look at > it.This means I'm stuck again.. (what a pain, but I want to build the > toolchain completely on my own..) > > I'm sure the solution is simple again... > > old Kernel 2.0.36, binutils-2.9.0.1.25 installed. > -- > CU > Jan-Uwe > ------------------------------------------------- > PGP-Public-Key on Request. > unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu > unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Aug 4 09:48:41 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA00570 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 09:48:23 +0100 Received: (qmail 29864 invoked from network); 4 Aug 1999 08:48:20 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 4 Aug 1999 08:48:20 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 04:47:50 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 04:47:41 -0400 Received: from almso1.att.com ([192.128.167.69]:46334 "EHLO almso1.proxy.att.com") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 04:47:24 -0400 Received: from frgmsx3.emea.att.com ([135.76.188.29]) by almso1.proxy.att.com (AT&T IPNS/MS-2.2) with ESMTP id EAA06862 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 04:47:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by FRGMSX3 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 10:49:24 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Vater, Thomas" To: "'Jan-Uwe.Finck@bigfoot.de'" , linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: RE: This time it's gcc... :-( Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 10:49:26 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Well, I'm currenly trying the same. But I stumbled at the configure step already. ./configure told me that it is "unable to determine minor version number". What does that mean? Or better: how can I fix this? Thomas Vater tv@de.att.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Jan-Uwe Finck [mailto:ju_finck@mail.netwave.de] > Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 1999 7:15 PM > To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu > Subject: This time it's gcc... :-( > > > I _hate_ to ask again.. > Anyway, I fetched gcc-2.95, patched in /gcc-2.95/gcc , configured it > by ./configure arm-linux --prefix=/usr , and typed make LANGUAGES="c", > and the result is a bug after some Lines : > > [root@riscy gcc]# make LANGUAGES="c" > gcc -DIN_GCC -g -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -o cccp cccp.o cexp.o intl.o > prefix.o version.o mbchar.o obstack.o > ../libiberty/libiberty.a > gcc: ../libiberty/libiberty.a: No such file or directory > make: *** [cccp] Error 1 > > I checked it, the file is non-existent, but I couldn't manage to find > the appropiate line in the Makefile to comment it out or even look at > it.This means I'm stuck again.. (what a pain, but I want to build the > toolchain completely on my own..) > > I'm sure the solution is simple again... > > old Kernel 2.0.36, binutils-2.9.0.1.25 installed. > -- > CU > Jan-Uwe > ------------------------------------------------- > PGP-Public-Key on Request. > unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to > majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu > unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Aug 4 10:07:19 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA00683 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 10:07:19 +0100 Received: (qmail 30688 invoked from network); 4 Aug 1999 09:06:44 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 4 Aug 1999 09:06:44 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 05:04:34 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 05:04:16 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:11927 "EHLO globe.nexus.co.uk") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 05:00:37 -0400 Received: from [192.0.0.21] (helo=fountain.nexus.co.uk ident=mail) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11Bwmq-0000K9-00; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 09:52:36 +0100 Received: from [::ffff:127.0.0.1] (helo=fountain.nexus.co.uk ident=pb) by fountain.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #4) id 11Bwmq-0003pM-00; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 09:52:36 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) To: Jan-Uwe.Finck@bigfoot.de cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: This time it's gcc... :-( In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 03 Aug 1999 19:15:09 +0200." <19990803191509.A501@mail.netwave.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 09:52:35 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing In message <19990803191509.A501@mail.netwave.de>, Jan-Uwe Finck writes: >I _hate_ to ask again.. >Anyway, I fetched gcc-2.95, patched in /gcc-2.95/gcc , configured it >by ./configure arm-linux --prefix=/usr , and typed make LANGUAGES="c", >and the result is a bug after some Lines : Don't do that, then - just configure and make at the top level. The gcc subdirectory depends on other things such as libiberty that need to be built first. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Aug 4 10:28:13 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA00869 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 10:28:13 +0100 Received: (qmail 1078 invoked from network); 4 Aug 1999 09:28:12 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 4 Aug 1999 09:28:12 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 05:27:12 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 05:27:02 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:11945 "EHLO globe.nexus.co.uk") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 05:25:49 -0400 Received: from [192.0.0.21] (helo=fountain.nexus.co.uk ident=mail) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11BxHR-0000QQ-00; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 10:24:13 +0100 Received: from [::ffff:127.0.0.1] (helo=fountain.nexus.co.uk ident=pb) by fountain.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #4) id 11BxHQ-0003t8-00; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 10:24:12 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) To: "Vater, Thomas" cc: "'Jan-Uwe.Finck@bigfoot.de'" , linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: This time it's gcc... :-( In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 04 Aug 1999 10:49:26 +0200." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 10:24:12 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing In message , "Vate r, Thomas" writes: >Well, I'm currenly trying the same. But I stumbled at the configure step >already. >./configure told me that it is "unable to determine minor version >number". >What does that mean? Or better: how can I fix this? Post a transcript of the actual commands you type and the error messages; without that it's hard to guess what might be wrong. As I said to Jan-Uwe, you must configure at the top level, not in the gcc subdirectory. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Aug 4 13:09:54 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA01859 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 13:09:54 +0100 Received: (qmail 17494 invoked from network); 4 Aug 1999 12:09:54 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 4 Aug 1999 12:09:54 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 08:09:25 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 08:09:16 -0400 Received: from tele.visi.com ([209.98.98.17]:63224 "HELO mail-out.visi.com") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 08:09:01 -0400 Received: from isis.visi.com (isis.visi.com [209.98.98.8]) by mail-out.visi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BAE31F813; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 07:08:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (mestery@localhost) by isis.visi.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA20436; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 07:08:59 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: isis.visi.com: mestery owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 07:08:58 -0500 (CDT) From: To: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" Cc: Sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: new UNSW CSE technical report (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Hi, Is anyone interested in applying the approach talked about in the paper to the Linux/ARM kernel? I would like to work on this task, and didn't want to duplicate any efforts underway. Any feedback appreciated! Thanks! -- Kyle Mestery | StorageTek's Storage Networking Group mestery@visi.com | http://www.freebsd.org/ mestery@netwinder.org | http://www.netwinder.org/ Protect your right to privacy: www.freecrypto.org On Fri, 30 Jul 1999, Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins wrote: > > For those of you interested. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 15:55:28 +1000 (EST) > From: Andrew Taylor > To: cse@cse.unsw.EDU.AU > Subject: new UNSW CSE technical report > > > UNSW Computer Science and Engineering Technical Report no. UNSW-CSE-TR-9906 > (20 pages: compressed postscript file 9906.ps.Z) > > Title: Fast Address-Space Switching on the StrongARM SA-1100 Processor > > > Authors: Adam Wiggins, Gernot Heiser > School of Computer Science and Engineering > University of New South Wales > Sydney 2052 Australia > E-mail: {awiggins,gernot}@cse.unsw.edu.au > > > > Abstract: > > The StrongARM SA-1100 is a high-speed low-power processor aimed at > embedded and portable applications. Its architecture features virtual > caches and TLBs which are not tagged by an address-space > identifier. Consequently, context switches on that processor are > potentially very expensive, as they may require complete flushes of TLBs > and caches. > > This report presents the design of an address-space management technique > for the StrongARM which minimises TLB and cache flushes and thus > context switching costs. The basic idea is to implement the top-level of > the (hardware-walked) page-table as a cache for page directory entries > for different address spaces. This allows switching address spaces with > minimal overhead as long as the working sets do not overlap. For small > (<=32MB) address spaces further improvements are possible by > making use of the StrongARM's re-mapping facility. Our technique is > discussed in the context of the L4 microkernel in which it will be > implemented. > > > ftp://ftp.cse.unsw.edu.au/pub/doc/papers/UNSW/9906.ps.Z > > unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu > unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Aug 4 13:34:04 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA01953 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 13:34:04 +0100 Received: (qmail 20187 invoked from network); 4 Aug 1999 12:34:03 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 4 Aug 1999 12:34:03 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 08:33:36 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 08:33:28 -0400 Received: from michelle.crs4.it ([156.148.1.33]:3058 "HELO mail.crs4.it") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 08:32:18 -0400 Received: from crs4.it (panda.crs4.it [156.148.2.58]) by mail.crs4.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78A4A10CD for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 14:31:58 +0200 (METDST) Message-ID: <37A832BC.3ACEE0AA@crs4.it> Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 12:31:56 +0000 From: Daniel Dui Organization: CRS4 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.10 i686) X-Accept-Language: en, en-US, en-GB, it MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-arm Subject: Linux and ARM SDT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Hi all, I'd like to know if enyone has done something like this: We have a Debian2.1 Linux box with a StrongARM cross development environment installed (as described on Intel's documents) . On a WinNT box we have the ARM Software Development Toolkit 2.5 which comes with an ARM emulator. We wanted to build an image on the Linux box and run it on the WinNT box. Has anyone tryed this? I would appreciate if you can point me to the appropriate FM and docs (if any are available) and comment on the feasibility of this thing. Thank you Daniel. -- ------------------------------------------------ Daniel Dui dui@crs4.it CRS4 www.crs4.it Centre for Advanced Studies, R&D in Sardinia ------------------------------------------------ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Aug 4 13:42:36 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA01991 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 13:42:35 +0100 Received: (qmail 21162 invoked from network); 4 Aug 1999 12:42:36 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 4 Aug 1999 12:42:36 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 08:42:05 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 08:41:46 -0400 Received: from [194.173.93.128] ([194.173.93.128]:2598 "EHLO msa-01.terz.de") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 08:41:33 -0400 Received: from naemi (msa-ppp1.terz.de [194.173.93.131]) by msa-01.terz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA11369 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 14:41:32 +0200 Message-ID: <002301bede76$8aa61540$835dadc2@naemi> From: "Michael Bruck" To: Subject: Re: This time it's gcc... :-( Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 14:40:31 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Go into the libiberty directory and type make libiberty.a . I've already seen this with older egcs versions and I think this is what I usually did in this situation. Micha ----- Original Message ----- From: Jan-Uwe Finck To: Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 1999 7:15 PM Subject: This time it's gcc... :-( >I _hate_ to ask again.. >Anyway, I fetched gcc-2.95, patched in /gcc-2.95/gcc , configured it >by ./configure arm-linux --prefix=/usr , and typed make LANGUAGES="c", >and the result is a bug after some Lines : > >[root@riscy gcc]# make LANGUAGES="c" >gcc -DIN_GCC -g -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -o cccp cccp.o cexp.o intl.o >prefix.o version.o mbchar.o obstack.o >../libiberty/libiberty.a >gcc: ../libiberty/libiberty.a: No such file or directory >make: *** [cccp] Error 1 > >I checked it, the file is non-existent, but I couldn't manage to find >the appropiate line in the Makefile to comment it out or even look at >it.This means I'm stuck again.. (what a pain, but I want to build the >toolchain completely on my own..) > >I'm sure the solution is simple again... > >old Kernel 2.0.36, binutils-2.9.0.1.25 installed. >-- >CU > Jan-Uwe >------------------------------------------------- >PGP-Public-Key on Request. >unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu > unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Aug 4 14:03:47 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA02192 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 14:03:47 +0100 Received: (qmail 23623 invoked from network); 4 Aug 1999 13:03:44 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 4 Aug 1999 13:03:44 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 09:03:12 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 09:02:58 -0400 Received: from zeus.wi.leidenuniv.nl ([132.229.128.1]:1889 "EHLO zeus.wi.leidenuniv.nl") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 09:02:01 -0400 Received: from wi.leidenuniv.nl (IDENT:mkoek@pc410k [132.229.132.62]) by zeus.wi.leidenuniv.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3/LIACS 1.0) with ESMTP id PAA28142; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 15:01:43 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <37A839B7.90660F23@wi.leidenuniv.nl> Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 15:01:43 +0200 From: Mark Koek Organization: Leiden University -- Math. & CS dept. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Royal Oak Intermediate CC: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: partition problem References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Royal Oak Intermediate wrote: > > Hello, all-- > > I'm trying to install ARM linux, but have run into a problem. I downloaded > the latest distribution from ftp.arm.linux.org and think I have the proper > items. However, !PartMan (latest version I can find is 7 Nov 97) does not > save my partition table to disk. Neither does fdisk from the installer. > > I'm trying to load this on a RiscPC 600 with a Quantum 1.2GB HDD. My > filecore partition ends at cyl 360, so I shouldn't be running into the cyl > 1024 bug that PCs seem to have (is this a problem with ARM linux, too???). > > Any help would be appreciated, as would any comments from anyone who has > tried WINE over ARM Linux. I would guess WINE is pretty useless on anything but the x86 architecture. Windows binaries are x86, after all. Or do you want to try porting using winelib? I wouldn't know about the feasability of that. `bye, Mark Koek unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Aug 4 14:22:50 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA02459 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 14:22:50 +0100 Received: (qmail 26222 invoked from network); 4 Aug 1999 13:22:50 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 4 Aug 1999 13:22:50 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 09:22:11 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 09:20:41 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:12565 "EHLO globe.nexus.co.uk") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 09:20:22 -0400 Received: from [192.0.0.21] (helo=fountain.nexus.co.uk ident=mail) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11C0p7-0000y2-00; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 14:11:13 +0100 Received: from fountain.nexus.co.uk ([::ffff:127.0.0.1] ident=pb) by fountain.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #4) id 11C0p7-0007bO-00; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 14:11:13 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) To: Daniel Dui cc: linux-arm Subject: Re: Linux and ARM SDT In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 04 Aug 1999 12:31:56 -0000." <37A832BC.3ACEE0AA@crs4.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 14:11:12 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing >On a WinNT box we have the ARM Software Development Toolkit 2.5 which >comes with an ARM emulator. > >We wanted to build an image on the Linux box and run it on the WinNT >box. Has anyone tryed this? There's no reason this shouldn't work. You could also use the ARMulator under Linux; I don't know how that measures up to ARM's offering. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Aug 4 15:13:33 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA03180 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 15:13:33 +0100 Received: (qmail 399 invoked from network); 4 Aug 1999 14:13:32 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 4 Aug 1999 14:13:32 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 10:12:49 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 10:12:40 -0400 Received: from michelle.crs4.it ([156.148.1.33]:3213 "HELO mail.crs4.it") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 10:12:25 -0400 Received: from crs4.it (panda.crs4.it [156.148.2.58]) by mail.crs4.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 564B610CB; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 16:12:20 +0200 (METDST) Message-ID: <37A84A42.EC679C62@crs4.it> Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 14:12:18 +0000 From: Daniel Dui Organization: CRS4 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.10 i686) X-Accept-Language: en, en-US, en-GB, it MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Philip Blundell Cc: linux-arm Subject: Re: Linux and ARM SDT References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Philip Blundell wrote: > > There's no reason this shouldn't work. You could > also use the ARMulator under > Linux; I don't know how that measures up to ARM's > offering. Obviously, I am confident that there is some way to make it work, I wanted some hints about _how_ it could be done and if it could be done easily or if it required some heavy duty hacking. I had a look at GNU/ARMulator, but it doesn't emulate strongarm, which is what I want. I have being reading ARM's documentation that came with the SDT, but it only covers how to use images produced with the STD-compiler. Sadly i cannot simply arm-compile a program on linux and load it on the STD-armulator. So I have no idea where to look next. Hence my call for help. daniel -- ------------------------------------------------ Daniel Dui dui@crs4.it CRS4 www.crs4.it Centre for Advanced Studies, R&D in Sardinia ------------------------------------------------ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Aug 4 17:22:26 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA04086 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 17:22:25 +0100 Received: (qmail 21277 invoked from network); 4 Aug 1999 16:22:25 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 4 Aug 1999 16:22:25 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 12:19:44 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 12:17:06 -0400 Received: from mail.RWTH-Aachen.DE ([137.226.144.9]:1698 "EHLO mail.rwth-aachen.de") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 12:16:44 -0400 Received: from tm913045 (s4m196.dialup.RWTH-Aachen.DE) by mail.rwth-aachen.de (PMDF V5.1-12 #D3869) with SMTP id <01JEDNHGQ088000259@mail.rwth-aachen.de> for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 18:17:11 +0200 Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 18:15:19 +0200 From: Thomas Marx Subject: Re: This time it's gcc... :-( In-reply-to: <002301bede76$8aa61540$835dadc2@naemi> To: mbruck@gmx.net, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Message-id: X-Organization: Home MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40f for RISC OS Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.61a User-Agent: POPstar/2.01b12 Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Hi! As i see it there are lots of people trying to use the new releases. Is it posible for someone to build up a rpm-package which you just install? I was thinkin to go compile everything but the real thing I want to do with ArmLinux is to program. The next Qs follows directly. When will there be a new distribution with a 2.2 kernel , the gcc 2.95 ... If theres something I can do with my totally confused ArmLinux here are home plase let me know. Best regards, Tom -- Thomas Marx Fon +49 241 542886 Bluecherplatz 24 52068 Aachen email thomas.marx@post.rwth-aachen.de Germany unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Aug 4 20:07:10 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA05709 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 20:07:10 +0100 Received: (qmail 11537 invoked from network); 4 Aug 1999 19:07:05 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 4 Aug 1999 19:07:05 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 15:00:12 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 14:57:33 -0400 Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.41]:4857 "EHLO finch-post-12.mail.demon.net") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 14:52:51 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11C69h-00067o-0C; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 18:52:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org ident=phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11C68q-0004Fy-00; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 19:51:56 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) To: Daniel Dui cc: linux-arm Subject: Re: Linux and ARM SDT In-Reply-To: Message from Daniel Dui of "Wed, 04 Aug 1999 14:12:18 -0000." <37A84A42.EC679C62@crs4.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 19:51:56 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing >Obviously, I am confident that there is some way to make it work, I >wanted some hints about _how_ it could be done and if it could be done >easily or if it required some heavy duty hacking. It might suffice to just use objcopy to convert the image into some form that the ARM tools understands. What format this is depends on exactly what versions of the two toolchains you are using. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Aug 4 20:48:10 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA05988 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 20:48:10 +0100 Received: (qmail 19536 invoked from network); 4 Aug 1999 19:48:07 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 4 Aug 1999 19:48:07 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 15:41:59 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 15:41:37 -0400 Received: from nexus.carleton.ca ([134.117.76.10]:4112 "EHLO nexus.carleton.ca") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 15:29:05 -0400 Received: from localhost (stewart@localhost) by nexus.carleton.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA02153; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 15:29:10 -0400 Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 15:29:10 -0400 (EDT) From: "Rod m. Stewart" To: Thomas Marx cc: mbruck@gmx.net, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: This time it's gcc... :-( In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing On Wed, 4 Aug 1999, Thomas Marx wrote: > The next Qs follows directly. When will there be a new distribution with > a 2.2 kernel , the gcc 2.95 ... Are you on an armv4l machine (ie. not a RiscPC)? Do you have versionning enable in your glibc? If yes, to both of those, then you could try the Titan stuff I have. The only problem is the documentation is almost non existent, at present. Currently it has egcs-1.1.2, but I have gcc 2.95 on my machine at home and it will make it over to the main tree this week. Titan VI is very similar to Red Hat 6.0. What is currently there: ftp.nw.carleton.ca/pub/winder-testing/pre_titanVI/RPMS Oh, and X has issues. This weekend pre_2_titanVI (pre releaes 2) is going up, just don't know if it will have binutiles 2.9.5 or not.. -Rms unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Aug 4 22:17:19 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA06746 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 22:17:19 +0100 Received: (qmail 5022 invoked from network); 4 Aug 1999 21:17:18 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 4 Aug 1999 21:17:18 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 17:16:18 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 17:10:13 -0400 Received: from planetc.ak.planet.gen.nz ([202.20.65.15]:39888 "EHLO planet.ak.planet.gen.nz") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 17:06:42 -0400 Received: from manukau.ak.planet.gen.nz (as5200-28.ak.planet.gen.nz [202.20.65.158]) by planet.ak.planet.gen.nz (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA01652 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 09:01:47 +1200 (NZST) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 09:04:44 +0000 (GMT) From: Royal Oak Intermediate Subject: WINE under ARMLinux??? To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Organization: Organisation name, location. Telephone/Fax? X-Mailer: ANT RISCOS Marcel [ver 1.46] Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Hello. Has anyone tried running WINE with ARMLinux? Is there any reason it may not work? I'm in charge of a school full of RiscPCs. The school is expanding, equipment needs buying, and I'm trying to find a good way to keep our machines in use, since they seem to be operating all right (with the exception of a nasty power supply design fault.....). We don't want to keep going down the Acorn road, as there is a big compatibility problem with neighboring schools, other machines on site, software availability, and a lot of pressure from the board of governers to switch. My thought was to use ARMLinux, run StarOffice, other Windows apps (read CD-ROM based things) under WINE and then all machines, old and new could share data and talk relatively freely. All for a lot less than buying a school-ful of new machines. Any advice would be most welcome. Thanks! Dan Loeb IT coordinator -- Royal Oak Intermediate New Zealand Email: admin@royaloakint.school.nz unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Aug 4 22:43:17 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA07218 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 22:43:17 +0100 Received: (qmail 9873 invoked from network); 4 Aug 1999 21:43:17 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 4 Aug 1999 21:43:17 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 17:42:36 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 17:41:36 -0400 Received: from [194.168.16.170] ([194.168.16.170]:3027 "EHLO caramon.armlinux.org.uk") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 17:40:28 -0400 Received: from flint.armlinux.org.uk (root@flint [192.168.0.4]) by caramon.armlinux.org.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA17289; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 07:40:11 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by flint.armlinux.org.uk (8.8.7/8.7.3) id HAA11847; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 07:39:48 +0100 Message-Id: <199908040639.HAA11847@flint.armlinux.org.uk> Subject: Re: partition problem To: admin@royaloakint.school.nz (Royal Oak Intermediate) Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 07:39:48 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Royal Oak Intermediate" at Aug 3, 99 05:59:46 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Royal Oak Intermediate writes: > I'm trying to install ARM linux, but have run into a problem. I downloaded > the latest distribution from ftp.arm.linux.org and think I have the proper > items. However, !PartMan (latest version I can find is 7 Nov 97) does not > save my partition table to disk. Neither does fdisk from the installer. Please use the latest !PartMan from the /pub/armlinux/testing directory. > Any help would be appreciated, as would any comments from anyone who has > tried WINE over ARM Linux. It is not possible to use WINE without recompiling binary applications, and therefore it's of limited use on ARM. AFAIK, no attempts have been made to get it running on ARM. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.linux.org.uk --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Aug 4 23:02:35 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA07458 for ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 23:02:35 +0100 Received: (qmail 13749 invoked from network); 4 Aug 1999 22:02:35 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 4 Aug 1999 22:02:35 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 18:01:55 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 18:01:30 -0400 Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.20]:2579 "EHLO tele-post-20.mail.demon.net") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 17:58:49 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11C93f-000LBp-0K; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 21:58:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org ident=phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11C923-0004a7-00; Wed, 4 Aug 1999 22:57:07 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) To: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: partition problem In-Reply-To: Message from Russell King - ARM Linux Admin of "Wed, 04 Aug 1999 07:39:48 BST." <199908040639.HAA11847@flint.armlinux.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 04 Aug 1999 22:57:06 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing >It is not possible to use WINE without recompiling binary applications, >and therefore it's of limited use on ARM. AFAIK, no attempts have been >made to get it running on ARM. Actually, I think people are working on it. I have no idea what state it's in at the moment though. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Aug 5 07:19:00 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id HAA10436 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 07:18:59 +0100 Received: (qmail 26031 invoked from network); 5 Aug 1999 06:18:58 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 5 Aug 1999 06:18:58 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 02:18:36 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 02:18:09 -0400 Received: from almso1.att.com ([192.128.167.69]:37354 "EHLO almso1.proxy.att.com") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 02:17:43 -0400 Received: from frgmsx3.emea.att.com ([135.76.188.29]) by almso1.proxy.att.com (AT&T IPNS/MS-2.2) with ESMTP id CAA15577 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 02:17:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by FRGMSX3 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 08:20:04 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Vater, Thomas" To: "'Philip Blundell'" Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Problems configuring gcc-2.95 (was: RE: This time it's gcc...) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 08:20:05 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing > Post a transcript of the actual commands you type and the > error messages; > without that it's hard to guess what might be wrong. As I > said to Jan-Uwe, > you must configure at the top level, not in the gcc subdirectory. Ok then, here's what I did (actually not much): 1. extracted gcc-2.95.tar.gz from gnu.org 2. cd gcc-2.95 3. applied your patch with: patch -p0 < ../gcc-2.95-diff-990730 (reports some Hunk #x succeeded at xxxxx, no rejects) 4. ./configure arm-linux --prefix=/arm-tools This reported the following: Created "Makefile" in /usr/src/gcc-2.95 using "mt-frag" Cannot find the GNU C library minor version number. The machine I'm running on is a RISC PC with a stock ARM Linux installation from ftp.arm.linux.org.uk and a home-made 2.0.35 kernel. I might add that I compiled and installed binutils (2.9.1.0.22 I think, not sure) successfully into /arm-tools before. Any help and suggestions are greatly welcome. Thanks. Thomas > > p. > > > unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to > majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu > unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Aug 5 08:40:06 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA10772 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 08:40:06 +0100 Received: (qmail 31715 invoked from network); 5 Aug 1999 07:40:06 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 5 Aug 1999 07:40:06 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 03:39:40 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 03:39:32 -0400 Received: from albatross-ext.wise.edt.ericsson.se ([193.180.251.36]:36421 "EHLO albatross.wise.edt.ericsson.se") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 03:38:44 -0400 Received: from penguin.wise.edt.ericsson.se (penguin.wise.edt.ericsson.se [153.88.253.23]) by albatross.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.9.3/8.9.3/WIREfire-1.3) with ESMTP id JAA12705 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 09:38:40 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mailserver1.ericsson.se (mailserver1.ericsson.se [136.225.152.91]) by penguin.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.9.3/8.9.3/WIREfire-1.3) with ESMTP id JAA01800; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 09:35:18 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ericsson.com ([150.236.168.7]) by mailserver1.ericsson.se (8.8.8/8.8.8/eri-1.0) with ESMTP id JAA27157; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 09:35:13 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <37A93DB7.B8CE9948@ericsson.com> Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 15:31:03 +0800 From: Chng Tiak-Jung Reply-To: tiak-jung.chng@eno.ericsson.se Organization: Ericsson Research / Cyberlab Singapore X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.10 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Royal Oak Intermediate CC: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: WINE under ARMLinux??? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Royal Oak Intermediate wrote: > Has anyone tried running WINE with ARMLinux? Is there any reason it may not > work? Yes, WINE Is Not Emulator. WINE can only works on Intel-compatible CPU, not any other CPU. To allow Windows programs to run on other CPU, you will need the source of the programs and recompile it against the Win32 API provided in WINE to produce a binary for that CPU. Regards, T J -- Chng Tiak-Jung Senior Research Engineer, Wireless Applications Ericsson Research / CyberLab Singapore Ericsson Telecommunications Pte Ltd 510 Thomson Road Tel: +65 350 1 649 #18-00 SLF Building Fax: +65 256 2 403 Singapore 298135 tiak-jung.chng@ericsson.com unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Aug 5 10:50:48 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA11738 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 10:50:48 +0100 Received: (qmail 10382 invoked from network); 5 Aug 1999 09:50:47 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 5 Aug 1999 09:50:47 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 05:50:15 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 05:49:56 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:12656 "EHLO globe.nexus.co.uk") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 05:49:40 -0400 Received: from [192.0.0.21] (helo=fountain.nexus.co.uk ident=mail) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11CK88-0001ut-00; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 10:48:08 +0100 Received: from fountain.nexus.co.uk ([::ffff:127.0.0.1] ident=pb) by fountain.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #4) id 11CK88-0008Dz-00; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 10:48:08 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) To: "Vater, Thomas" cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Problems configuring gcc-2.95 (was: RE: This time it's gcc...) In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 05 Aug 1999 08:20:05 +0200." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 10:48:07 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing >This reported the following: > >Created "Makefile" in /usr/src/gcc-2.95 using "mt-frag" >Cannot find the GNU C library minor version number. Ugh. The problem is that you are configuring as a native compiler, but you don't actually have a working native environment yet. Try configuring initially as an arm-linuxaout - arm-linux cross and see if that helps any. Alternatively you could install from a binary distribution for bootstrap purposes. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Aug 5 11:19:37 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA12028 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 11:19:37 +0100 Received: (qmail 17676 invoked from network); 5 Aug 1999 10:19:36 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 5 Aug 1999 10:19:36 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 06:19:03 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 06:18:46 -0400 Received: from ckmso1.att.com ([12.20.58.69]:57005 "EHLO ckmso1.proxy.att.com") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 06:17:05 -0400 Received: from frgmsx3.emea.att.com ([135.76.188.29]) by ckmso1.proxy.att.com (AT&T IPNS/MS-2.2) with ESMTP id GAA04391 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 06:16:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by FRGMSX3 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 12:18:41 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Vater, Thomas" To: "'Philip Blundell'" Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: RE: Problems configuring gcc-2.95 (was: RE: This time it's gcc... ) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 12:18:29 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing > >This reported the following: > > > >Created "Makefile" in /usr/src/gcc-2.95 using "mt-frag" > >Cannot find the GNU C library minor version number. > > Ugh. The problem is that you are configuring as a native > compiler, but you > don't actually have a working native environment yet. Try > configuring > initially as an arm-linuxaout - arm-linux cross and see if > that helps any. I will try that. I did manage to cross-compile binutils, egcs and glibc-2.1 for ARM Linux on a x86 box. It generates running code when statically linked. If I install the cross-compiled glibc libraries to the ARM Linux box - would that be enough for a "working native environment"? Or are there other things missing? The reason why I haven't tried this yet is that I have no clue what to put where. Are there any paperworks/online resources available to learn from in this area? > > Alternatively you could install from a binary distribution > for bootstrap > purposes. If I get the packages from netwinder.org will they work on my RISC PC? If not, where do I get the binaries? Thanks much for your help. Thomas unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Aug 5 11:30:11 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA12132 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 11:30:11 +0100 Received: (qmail 18682 invoked from network); 5 Aug 1999 10:30:11 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 5 Aug 1999 10:30:11 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 06:29:33 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 06:29:29 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:12695 "EHLO globe.nexus.co.uk") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 06:26:17 -0400 Received: from [192.0.0.21] (helo=fountain.nexus.co.uk ident=mail) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11CKhf-0001y1-00; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 11:24:51 +0100 Received: from fountain.nexus.co.uk ([::ffff:127.0.0.1] ident=pb) by fountain.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #4) id 11CKhf-0008Ic-00; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 11:24:51 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) To: "Vater, Thomas" cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Problems configuring gcc-2.95 (was: RE: This time it's gcc... ) In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 05 Aug 1999 12:18:29 +0200." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 11:24:51 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing >I will try that. I did manage to cross-compile binutils, egcs and glibc-2.1 >for ARM Linux on a x86 box. It generates running code when statically >linked. If I install the cross-compiled glibc libraries to the ARM Linux box >- would that be enough for a "working native environment"? Or are there >other things missing? No, you would also need a version of GCC set up to use these libraries. You could theoretically cross-build this from your Intel machine as well but it would probably be a load of trouble. Actually, it might work to just add a definition of __GLIBC_MINOR__ to your existing . >where. Are there any paperworks/online resources available to learn from in >this area? Only the GCC documentation. There is also a FAQ for the crossgcc mailing list which might help. >If I get the packages from netwinder.org will they work on my RISC PC? >If not, where do I get the binaries? No, the netwinder packages won't work since they are compiled for ARMv4. Try the Debian ones instead (ftp.debian.org:/debian/dists/potato/main/binary-arm). p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Aug 5 12:20:26 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA12417 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 12:20:26 +0100 Received: (qmail 24973 invoked from network); 5 Aug 1999 11:20:26 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 5 Aug 1999 11:20:26 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 07:19:39 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 07:19:05 -0400 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU ([129.94.242.29]:4797 "HELO note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 07:17:45 -0400 Received: From paulaner With LocalMail ; Thu, 5 Aug 99 21:17:21 +1000 From: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 21:17:21 +1000 (EST) X-Sender: awiggins@paulaner.disy.cse.unsw.EDU.AU Subject: DNARD Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Anyway working on getting linux to run on the DNARD? I'm after some info on the open Firmware that comes with it or Angle on it. Cheers Adam unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Aug 5 15:52:46 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA15249 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 15:52:46 +0100 Received: (qmail 22778 invoked from network); 5 Aug 1999 14:52:46 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 5 Aug 1999 14:52:46 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 10:52:16 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 10:52:00 -0400 Received: from [194.185.227.2] ([194.185.227.2]:1247 "EHLO praim.com") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 10:51:08 -0400 Received: from praim.com ([195.120.60.89]) by praim.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 167-44480U100L100S0) with ESMTP id AAA208 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 16:50:55 +0200 Message-ID: <37A9A439.8C2BA87B@praim.com> Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 16:48:25 +0200 From: claudiog@praim.com (Claudio Granatiero) Organization: Praim S.p.A. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu" Subject: linux on ARM7TDMI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Hello everybody, I'm new to the list and to the ARM processor... Could someone tell me if it's possible to run linux on the ARM7TDMI ? As far as I know this processor lacks of the MMU. Could this be a problem? Thanks in advance, Claudio -- Ash nazg durbatuluk, ash nazg gimbatul, ash nazg thrakatuluk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Claudio Granatiero ICQ#:16725435 IRC&AOL: CGsoft // PGP: 74F0 52C0 75A1 4CAA B3E8 13CE DA7A C86E 2EBA 9F75 \\|soft -------------------------------------------------------------------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Aug 5 18:20:30 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA16219 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 18:20:29 +0100 Received: (qmail 22258 invoked from network); 5 Aug 1999 17:20:29 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 5 Aug 1999 17:20:29 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 13:19:00 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 13:17:34 -0400 Received: from [194.173.93.128] ([194.173.93.128]:11317 "EHLO msa-01.terz.de") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 13:16:11 -0400 Received: from naemi (msa-ppp1.terz.de [194.173.93.131]) by msa-01.terz.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA03741; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 19:16:16 +0200 Message-ID: <001501bedf66$138516a0$835dadc2@naemi> From: "Michael Bruck" To: "Royal Oak Intermediate" Cc: Subject: Re: WINE under ARMLinux??? Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 19:15:10 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing >Royal Oak Intermediate wrote: >> Has anyone tried running WINE with ARMLinux? Is there any reason it may not >> work? > >Yes, WINE Is Not Emulator. WINE can only works on Intel-compatible >CPU, not any other CPU. To allow Windows programs to run on other >CPU, you will need the source of the programs and recompile it >against the Win32 API provided in WINE to produce a binary for >that CPU. Try: http://www.bochs.com/ I stumbled across this only last week, so I don't know much about it. But they list ARM as a supported platform. Micha unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Aug 5 18:35:30 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA16466 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 18:35:29 +0100 Received: (qmail 24643 invoked from network); 5 Aug 1999 17:35:29 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 5 Aug 1999 17:35:29 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 13:33:23 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 13:32:58 -0400 Received: from [62.232.19.201] ([62.232.19.201]:1728 "EHLO bastion.power-x.co.uk") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 13:31:22 -0400 Received: from springhead.px.uk.com (IDENT:dg@springhead.px.uk.com [172.16.17.15]) by bastion.power-x.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA05080; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 18:30:45 +0100 Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 18:30:44 +0100 (BST) From: "Dr. David Gilbert" To: tiak-jung.chng@eno.ericsson.se cc: Royal Oak Intermediate , linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: WINE under ARMLinux??? In-Reply-To: <37A93DB7.B8CE9948@ericsson.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing On Thu, 5 Aug 1999, Chng Tiak-Jung wrote: > Royal Oak Intermediate wrote: > > Has anyone tried running WINE with ARMLinux? Is there any reason it may not > > work? > > Yes, WINE Is Not Emulator. WINE can only works on Intel-compatible > CPU, not any other CPU. To allow Windows programs to run on other > CPU, you will need the source of the programs and recompile it > against the Win32 API provided in WINE to produce a binary for > that CPU. Or of course you could slip an x86 emulator underneath with WINE still in place; a much more fun project. Dave /------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Dr. David Alan Gilbert | Work: dg@px.uk.com (+44-161-286-2000) | | -------- G7FHJ --------|---------------------------------------- | | Home: dave@treblig.org http://www.treblig.clara.net | \------------------------------------------------------------------/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Aug 5 20:11:38 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA17183 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 20:11:38 +0100 Received: (qmail 7261 invoked from network); 5 Aug 1999 19:11:37 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 5 Aug 1999 19:11:37 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 15:10:29 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 15:10:15 -0400 Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.20]:4392 "EHLO tele-post-20.mail.demon.net") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 15:07:50 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11CSrk-000LfB-0K; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 19:07:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org ident=phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11CSrY-0005DY-00; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 20:07:36 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) To: claudiog@praim.com (Claudio Granatiero) cc: "linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu" Subject: Re: linux on ARM7TDMI In-Reply-To: Message from claudiog@praim.com (Claudio Granatiero) of "Thu, 05 Aug 1999 16:48:25 +0200." <37A9A439.8C2BA87B@praim.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 20:07:35 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing >Could someone tell me if it's possible to run linux on the ARM7TDMI ? >As far as I know this processor lacks of the MMU. Could this be a >problem? ARM7TDMI is a core, not a processor. If you have no MMU you will not be able to run Linux as such, though you might have luck with ucLinux. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Aug 5 22:02:35 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA18011 for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 22:02:35 +0100 Received: (qmail 25879 invoked from network); 5 Aug 1999 21:02:35 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 5 Aug 1999 21:02:35 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 17:01:36 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 17:01:12 -0400 Received: from adsl-216-100-248-143.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net ([216.100.248.143]:1118 "EHLO adsl-216-100-248-143.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 16:59:11 -0400 Received: from barney (benw@barney [192.168.1.7]) by adsl-216-100-248-143.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA06159; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 09:45:24 -0700 Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 09:54:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Ben Williamson X-Sender: benw@barney.casagrande.way To: Claudio Granatiero cc: "linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu" Subject: Re: linux on ARM7TDMI In-Reply-To: <37A9A439.8C2BA87B@praim.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing On Thu, 5 Aug 1999, Claudio Granatiero wrote: > Could someone tell me if it's possible to run linux on the ARM7TDMI ? > As far as I know this processor lacks of the MMU. Could this be a > problem? Definitely a problem. I believe you're out of luck, Linux/ARM and in fact any Linux needs an MMU. It's a pretty fundamental component to having seperate address spaces and protected resources. There is a strange beast called uClinux (micro-controller Linux) which runs on m68k and z80 CPUs without MMUs. Everything shares the one address space; the user space memory allocator has been hacked into the kernel space allocator etc. I've seen a demo running on a Pilot, quite bizarre. I don't believe there's any intention to have an ARM uClinux port, but you never know. If you really want to run Linux on something without an MMU, that's the place to start. Hope that helps. - Ben. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Ben Williamson benw@pobox.com http://www.pobox.com/~benw/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Aug 6 03:08:37 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id DAA20336 for ; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 03:08:36 +0100 Received: (qmail 21673 invoked from network); 6 Aug 1999 02:08:35 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 6 Aug 1999 02:08:35 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 22:08:03 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 22:06:46 -0400 Received: from penguin-ext.wise.edt.ericsson.se ([194.237.142.110]:43613 "EHLO penguin.wise.edt.ericsson.se") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 22:06:40 -0400 Received: from mailserver1.ericsson.se (mailserver1.ericsson.se [136.225.152.91]) by penguin.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.9.3/8.9.3/WIREfire-1.3) with ESMTP id EAA06527; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 04:06:39 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from ericsson.com ([150.236.168.7]) by mailserver1.ericsson.se (8.8.8/8.8.8/eri-1.0) with ESMTP id EAA09595; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 04:06:33 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <37AA422B.62FE9C6D@ericsson.com> Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 10:02:19 +0800 From: Chng Tiak-Jung Reply-To: tiak-jung.chng@eno.ericsson.se Organization: Ericsson Research / Cyberlab Singapore X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.10 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Dr. David Gilbert" CC: tiak-jung.chng@eno.ericsson.se, Royal Oak Intermediate , linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: WINE under ARMLinux??? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing "Dr. David Gilbert" wrote: > Or of course you could slip an x86 emulator underneath with WINE still in > place; a much more fun project. Talking about that, I wonder is it possible to build an x86 emulator on ARMLinux such that it can run x86 Linux binary like what Alpha-Linux is doing? Did anyone attempted this before? T J -- Chng Tiak-Jung Senior Research Engineer, Wireless Applications Ericsson Research / CyberLab Singapore Ericsson Telecommunications Pte Ltd 510 Thomson Road Tel: +65 350 1 649 #18-00 SLF Building Fax: +65 256 2 403 Singapore 298135 tiak-jung.chng@ericsson.com unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Aug 6 04:37:44 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id EAA20742 for ; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 04:37:44 +0100 Received: (qmail 25540 invoked from network); 6 Aug 1999 03:37:44 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 6 Aug 1999 03:37:44 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 23:37:12 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 23:37:06 -0400 Received: from saraswati.brainlink.com ([206.127.58.9]:52167 "EHLO saraswati.private.brainlink.com") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 23:36:35 -0400 Received: from brainlink.com (ppp40.remote.brainlink.com [206.127.59.40]) by saraswati.private.brainlink.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-52824U2500L250S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Thu, 5 Aug 1999 23:35:18 -0400 Message-ID: <37AA5B1C.24D87D8@brainlink.com> Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 03:48:44 +0000 From: Ormund Williams Reply-To: Arm-Linux Organization: ORMLAB X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.32 i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Arm-Linux Subject: Re: linux on ARM7TDMI References: <37A9A439.8C2BA87B@praim.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Claudio Granatiero wrote: > > Hello everybody, > > I'm new to the list and to the ARM processor... > Could someone tell me if it's possible to run linux on the ARM7TDMI ? > As far as I know this processor lacks of the MMU. Could this be a > problem? > > Thanks in advance, > Claudio > -- > Ash nazg durbatuluk, ash nazg gimbatul, > ash nazg thrakatuluk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Claudio Granatiero ICQ#:16725435 IRC&AOL: CGsoft // > PGP: 74F0 52C0 75A1 4CAA B3E8 13CE DA7A C86E 2EBA 9F75 \\|soft > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu Hi Claudio I am planning a port of uCLinux to the ARM7DI (no 'T' or 'M', but it should work). The hardware is still under development but I should begin work on the code in earnest around mid September. There is someone else working on an ARM9 port and we had planed on collaborating. No MMU?, NO problem :) -- Ormund unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Aug 6 11:06:15 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA22665 for ; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 11:06:15 +0100 Received: (qmail 24694 invoked from network); 6 Aug 1999 10:06:15 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 6 Aug 1999 10:06:15 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 06:05:46 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 06:05:30 -0400 Received: from michelle.crs4.it ([156.148.1.33]:1221 "HELO mail.crs4.it") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id ; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 06:03:19 -0400 Received: from crs4.it (panda.crs4.it [156.148.2.58]) by mail.crs4.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DF2A10A5; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 12:03:06 +0200 (METDST) Message-ID: <37AAB2D9.AB811ED1@crs4.it> Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 10:03:05 +0000 From: Daniel Dui Organization: CRS4 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.10 i686) X-Accept-Language: en, en-US, en-GB, it MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Philip Blundell , linux-arm Subject: Re: Linux and ARM SDT References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Philip Blundell wrote: > AIF is more or less just a flat binary with a > header. You might find that the > easiest thing is to do `objcopy -O binary' and > munge the result until the ARM > simulator is happy. Yes that's what I was reading and what I will be doing. Strangely in the SDT reference manual they talk about AIF images, but the compiler produces files with extension .axf . Do you know if they are different formats? daniel -- ------------------------------------------------ Daniel Dui dui@crs4.it CRS4 www.crs4.it Centre for Advanced Studies, R&D in Sardinia ------------------------------------------------ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Aug 6 11:14:05 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA22740 for ; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 11:14:05 +0100 Received: (qmail 26117 invoked from network); 6 Aug 1999 10:14:05 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 6 Aug 1999 10:14:05 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 06:13:28 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 06:12:15 -0400 Received: from nostromo.olicom.dk ([194.234.18.41]:3618 "EHLO nostromo.olicom.dk") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 06:11:04 -0400 Received: by nostromo.olicom.dk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 12:11:00 +0200 Message-ID: <67774DC8E18DD2119125400083002FC28DC0C2@lv-426.olicom.dk> From: Claus Toendering To: "'Arm-Linux'" Subject: THUMB vs ARM Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 12:10:57 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing I'm new to the ARM processor, so please bear with me if this question is really stupid: Does GCC support generation of both ARM and THUMB code? And if so, how does one control which instruction set is generated? -- Claus Tondering unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Aug 6 11:21:22 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA22785 for ; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 11:21:21 +0100 Received: (qmail 26395 invoked from network); 6 Aug 1999 10:21:21 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 6 Aug 1999 10:21:21 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 06:20:48 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 06:20:40 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:13569 "EHLO globe.nexus.co.uk") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 06:20:25 -0400 Received: from [192.0.0.21] (helo=fountain.nexus.co.uk ident=mail) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11Ch4x-00033v-00; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 11:18:23 +0100 Received: from fountain.nexus.co.uk ([::ffff:127.0.0.1] ident=pb) by fountain.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #4) id 11Ch4x-0000ih-00; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 11:18:23 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) To: Claus Toendering cc: "'Arm-Linux'" Subject: Re: THUMB vs ARM In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 06 Aug 1999 12:10:57 +0200." <67774DC8E18DD2119125400083002FC28DC0C2@lv-426.olicom.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 11:18:23 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing >Does GCC support generation of both ARM and THUMB code? And if so, how does >one control which instruction set is generated? Yes, but not currently as a run-time option. You have to build two toolsets, one for ARM and one for Thumb. Thumb is not currently supported very well under Linux; this is something I've been working on sporadically for a while but not completed yet. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Aug 6 12:52:37 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA23264 for ; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 12:52:36 +0100 Received: (qmail 12016 invoked from network); 6 Aug 1999 11:52:37 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 6 Aug 1999 11:52:37 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 07:50:58 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 07:45:51 -0400 Received: from [195.89.188.122] ([195.89.188.122]:1506 "HELO linuxhacker.org") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id ; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 07:45:28 -0400 Received: (qmail 7201 invoked by uid 0); 6 Aug 1999 11:45:21 -0000 Received: from localhost (alex@127.0.0.1) by linuxhacker.org with SMTP; 6 Aug 1999 11:45:21 -0000 Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 12:45:20 +0100 (GMT) From: Alex Holden To: Ben Williamson cc: Claudio Granatiero , "linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu" Subject: Re: linux on ARM7TDMI In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing On Thu, 5 Aug 1999, Ben Williamson wrote: > There is a strange beast called uClinux (micro-controller Linux) which > runs on m68k and z80 CPUs without MMUs. Everything shares the one address I don't think uClinux ever has (or is likely to) run on a Z80 based system. I believe ELKS has done at some point in the past though. Depending on what the system is intended to do, both uClinux and ELKS are possibilities, but a lot of work would be required either way. --------------- Linux- the choice of a GNU generation. -------------- : Alex Holden (M1CJD)- Caver, Programmer, Land Rover nut, Radio Ham : -------------------- http://www.linuxhacker.org/ -------------------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Aug 6 22:42:02 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA28084 for ; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 22:42:02 +0100 Received: (qmail 13151 invoked from network); 6 Aug 1999 21:42:02 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 6 Aug 1999 21:42:02 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 17:38:10 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 17:37:54 -0400 Received: from mail3.cityweb.de ([193.189.228.21]:22664 "EHLO mail3.cityweb.de") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 17:30:53 -0400 Received: from cityweb.de (dsdf-m249-30.pool.cww.de [62.52.249.30]) by mail3.cityweb.de (8.9.1/8.9.1/powered by Telemedia) with ESMTP id XAA02684; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 23:29:25 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <37AB538D.38818A10@cityweb.de> Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 23:28:45 +0200 From: Kay Engelhardt X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.7 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Philip Blundell CC: Claudio Granatiero , "linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu" Subject: Re: linux on ARM7TDMI References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Dear ARM-Linux Fans, Philip Blundell wrote: > > >Could someone tell me if it's possible to run linux on the ARM7TDMI ? > >As far as I know this processor lacks of the MMU. Could this be a > >problem? > > ARM7TDMI is a core, not a processor. If you have no MMU you will not be able > to run Linux as such, though you might have luck with ucLinux. [...] is there a specification or an other paper that describes the requirements for such a MMU? I'm searching for a way to get Linux running on the ARM evaluation board with an ARM7TDMI. Thanks, Kay. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Kay Engelhardt Phone: 0211/335671 Merowingerstr. 117 E-Mail: kay.engelhardt@cityweb.de 40225 Duesseldorf PGP-Key: http://pgp5.ai.mit.edu Germany - DON'T PANIC - ------------------------------------------------------------------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Aug 6 23:59:53 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA28696 for ; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 23:59:53 +0100 Received: (qmail 20709 invoked from network); 6 Aug 1999 22:59:53 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 6 Aug 1999 22:59:53 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 18:59:11 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 18:58:56 -0400 Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.20]:2475 "EHLO tele-post-20.mail.demon.net") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 18:56:35 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11Csud-0004WV-0K; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 22:56:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org ident=phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11Csqz-0007KR-00; Fri, 6 Aug 1999 23:52:45 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) To: Kay Engelhardt cc: Claudio Granatiero , "linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu" Subject: Re: linux on ARM7TDMI In-Reply-To: Message from Kay Engelhardt of "Fri, 06 Aug 1999 23:28:45 +0200." <37AB538D.38818A10@cityweb.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 06 Aug 1999 23:52:41 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing >> If you have no MMU you will not be able >> to run Linux as such, though you might have luck with ucLinux. > >is there a specification or an other paper that describes the >requirements for such a MMU? Well, for Linux as it currently stands you need the canonical ARM MMU, as described in the architecture manual. It would be possible (and maybe quite interesting) to add support for a different type of memory manager if you so desired. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Aug 7 14:42:13 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA00671 for ; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 14:42:13 +0100 Received: (qmail 22029 invoked from network); 7 Aug 1999 13:42:13 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 7 Aug 1999 13:42:13 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 09:40:55 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 09:40:41 -0400 Received: from roadrunner.neo.lrun.com ([204.210.223.8]:33435 "EHLO roadrunner.neo.lrun.com") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 09:39:24 -0400 Received: from [10.0.0.1] ([204.210.204.239]) by roadrunner.neo.lrun.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-53939U80000L80000S0V35) with SMTP id com for ; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 09:39:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Ian Molton To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Mon, 07 Aug 1995 08:46:16 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <463d5fc69bspyro@warwick.net> X-Mailer: Pluto 1.10f for RISC OS 3.7 Subject: Re: Kernel patching.. In-Reply-To: <19990802133708.A1077@mail.netwave.de> Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Can someone resub me to the list as spyro@neo.rr.com ? thx. -- -Ian aka Spyro Acorn Computers, the best in the world http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hawk/ Aspie and proud of it. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Aug 7 21:46:39 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA03557 for ; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 21:46:39 +0100 Received: (qmail 20083 invoked from network); 7 Aug 1999 20:46:38 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 7 Aug 1999 20:46:38 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 16:42:47 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 16:42:30 -0400 Received: from neon-best.transmeta.com ([206.184.214.10]:12394 "EHLO neon.transmeta.com") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 16:41:26 -0400 Received: from deepthought.transmeta.com (mailhost.transmeta.com [10.1.1.15]) by neon.transmeta.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA17363 for ; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 13:41:23 -0700 Received: from barium.transmeta.com (sullivan@barium.transmeta.com [10.1.52.15]) by deepthought.transmeta.com (8.8.8+spamcan/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA13278 for ; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 13:41:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by barium.transmeta.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA07033; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 13:41:22 -0700 Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 13:41:22 -0700 From: sullivan@transmeta.com (John Sullivan) Message-Id: <199908072041.NAA07033@barium.transmeta.com> To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Patches for glibc-2.1.2pre2? X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing I'm trying to cross compile some applications for Arm Linux from an Intel Linux machine. I naively grabbed glibc-2.1.2pre2 from the sourceware.cygnus.com site (I haven't seen any information that says this would/wouldn't work, so I thought I'd try the latest version.) I'm running into a problem with ld-linux.so.2 complaining about ELF OS ABI value mismatches. Digging around a bit, I found some Usenet postings containing a patch from Philip Blundel for this problem. This patch was supposed to be applied to glibc-2.1.1. Is this a known problem w/ glibc-2.1.1 and later? Has the patch made it into 2.1.2 and later revs of the official source? Is there a place which stores Arm Linux patches to glibc that I might have found this at? Should I forget about glibc-2.1.2 and and stick with an earlier version? [ Despite this problems, I have been able to get cross-compiled apps to work, so it seems that the set of tools I'm using {glibc-2.1.2, gcc-2.95/bin, binutils-2.9.5.0.4} isn't too broken. ] Regards, John. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Aug 7 22:16:54 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA03686 for ; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 22:16:54 +0100 Received: (qmail 25704 invoked from network); 7 Aug 1999 21:16:52 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 7 Aug 1999 21:16:52 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 17:16:09 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 17:16:06 -0400 Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.20]:1134 "EHLO tele-post-20.mail.demon.net") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 17:12:55 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11DDlm-0007y2-0K; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 21:12:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org ident=phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11DDlj-0000JL-00; Sat, 7 Aug 1999 22:12:43 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) To: sullivan@transmeta.com (John Sullivan) cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Patches for glibc-2.1.2pre2? In-Reply-To: Message from sullivan@transmeta.com (John Sullivan) of "Sat, 07 Aug 1999 13:41:22 PDT." <199908072041.NAA07033@barium.transmeta.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 07 Aug 1999 22:12:43 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing >I'm running into a problem with ld-linux.so.2 complaining about >ELF OS ABI value mismatches. Digging around a bit, I found some >Usenet postings containing a patch from Philip Blundel for this >problem. This patch was supposed to be applied to glibc-2.1.1. > >Is this a known problem w/ glibc-2.1.1 and later? Has the patch >made it into 2.1.2 and later revs of the official source? This is the one issue that makes me reluctant to tell everyone to throw away binutils 2.9.1 and use 2.9.5 instead. Basically, owing to a series of fairly uninteresting slip-ups, we have ended up in a situation where binutils 2.9.5 is not 100% compatible with the older versions. Normal programs shouldn't care but gcc and glibc need to know the difference. I hope it will be fixed in glibc before 2.1.2 is actually released, though I can't make any promise. As a side note, I am about to change the mainline egcs sources so that a target name of `arm-*-linux-gnu' implies binutils 2.9.5, and a target name of `arm-*-linux-gnuoldld' implies an older version. Config.guess can tell the difference so there should be no reason for concern unless you set target names by hand. This will probably end up being backported to my 2.9.5 patchset sooner or later. >Is there a place which stores Arm Linux patches to glibc that I >might have found this at? No. >Should I forget about glibc-2.1.2 and and stick with an earlier version? That won't help; glibc has always behaved this way. Until now it was the right thing to do. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Aug 9 04:12:32 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id EAA15380 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 04:12:32 +0100 Received: (qmail 25021 invoked from network); 9 Aug 1999 03:12:31 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 9 Aug 1999 03:12:31 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 23:12:01 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 23:11:15 -0400 Received: from rz03.FH-Karlsruhe.DE ([193.196.64.3]:3041 "HELO rz03.FH-Karlsruhe.DE") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id ; Sun, 8 Aug 1999 23:11:04 -0400 Received: from gmx.de([172.20.202.67]) (1219 bytes) by rz03.FH-Karlsruhe.DE via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp (sender: ) id for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 05:11:04 +0100 (CET) (Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #2 built 1998-Feb-5) Message-ID: <37AE4647.910F4B72@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 05:08:55 +0200 From: Christian Decker Organization: University of Karlsruhe - Computing Centre X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu" Subject: Probs with serial dev Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Hi, I have a very strange problem with my serial device on my Acorn RISC-PC under ARM-Linux. A test like 'echo asdas > /dev/ttyS0' results in a 'No such device' message of the system. Allright, I have only one serial interface. So the ttyS0 must be this interface. My next trial was to look for the major number and so - /dev/ttyS0 has 4,64. So maybe that's wrong, but trials with other numbers were without success. So please, if someone has the same hardware, do 'll /dev/ttyS*' or tell me whether there is a command which I can use to regenerate the devs. Thanks in advance ... :-) -- Bye, Christian E-Mail: cd_KA@gmx.de unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Aug 9 05:36:32 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id FAA15757 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 05:36:32 +0100 Received: (qmail 30969 invoked from network); 9 Aug 1999 04:36:33 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 9 Aug 1999 04:36:33 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 00:31:38 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 00:31:19 -0400 Received: from tia.jimpick.com ([204.209.212.111]:1835 "EHLO tia.jimpick.com") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 00:31:12 -0400 Received: from (pepper.jimpick.com) [165.154.250.90] (mail) by tia.jimpick.com with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11Dh5R-0006as-00 (Debian); Sun, 8 Aug 1999 21:31:02 -0700 Received: from jim by pepper.jimpick.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1 (Debian)) id 11Dblb-0004Vd-00; Sun, 08 Aug 1999 15:50:12 -0700 To: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: DNARD References: X-Url: http://www.jimpick.com/ From: Jim Pick Date: 08 Aug 1999 15:50:11 -0700 In-Reply-To: Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins's message of "Thu, 5 Aug 1999 21:17:21 +1000 (EST)" Message-ID: <87pv0xvqe4.fsf@pepper.jimpick.com> Lines: 13 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070095 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.95) XEmacs/20.4 (Emerald) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins writes: > Anyway working on getting linux to run on the DNARD? I'm after > some info on the open Firmware that comes with it or Angle on it. Alexander Schulz has done some work very recently on it (check out some of his recent postings to the debian-arm list). Cheers, - Jim unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Aug 9 09:09:44 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA16443 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 09:09:44 +0100 Received: (qmail 13507 invoked from network); 9 Aug 1999 08:09:44 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 9 Aug 1999 08:09:44 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 04:09:23 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 04:09:15 -0400 Received: from zeus.wi.leidenuniv.nl ([132.229.128.1]:3401 "EHLO zeus.wi.leidenuniv.nl") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 04:09:04 -0400 Received: from wi.leidenuniv.nl (ind302fa [132.229.16.35]) by zeus.wi.leidenuniv.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3/LIACS 1.0) with ESMTP id KAA01344; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 10:08:40 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <37AE8C88.869F00A0@wi.leidenuniv.nl> Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 10:08:40 +0200 From: Mark Koek Organization: Leiden University -- Math. & CS dept. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; IRIX 5.3 IP22) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Royal Oak Intermediate CC: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: WINE under ARMLinux??? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Royal Oak Intermediate wrote: > My thought was to use ARMLinux, run StarOffice, other Windows apps (read > CD-ROM based things) under WINE and then all machines, old and new could > share data and talk relatively freely. All for a lot less than buying a > school-ful of new machines. You can't do that (not realistically, anyway: running StarOffice on a RiscPC with an x86 emulator would be unusably slow). You might be able to "re-use" the RiscPCs by running X servers on them with the clients on one or more new x86 boxes (if your network can take the strain). You could run the binaries that won't run in ARM-Linux on the x86s and display the windows on the RiscPCs. That would save you some money: you would only need some powerful x86 boxes (a K6-2/450 costs next to nothing these days) on which you would install the office software, maybe even using WINE (don't expect miracles though, WINE is not stable yet). It would look as though the programs run on the RiscPCs, but all they'll be doing is running X and receiving the window contents through the network and displaying them (and returning keypresses etc.). You can't have too many of those sessions on a single 10Mbps ethernet though, because it generates quite a lot of network traffic. I don't know if this would work (I've never tried it), but I think it might be worth a try. 'bye, Mark Koek unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Aug 9 10:13:44 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA16757 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 10:13:44 +0100 Received: (qmail 17179 invoked from network); 9 Aug 1999 09:13:43 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 9 Aug 1999 09:13:43 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 05:13:02 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 05:12:48 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:14469 "EHLO globe.nexus.co.uk") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 05:12:11 -0400 Received: from [192.0.0.21] (helo=fountain.nexus.co.uk ident=mail) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11DlO1-0005YJ-00; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 10:06:29 +0100 Received: from [::ffff:127.0.0.1] (helo=fountain.nexus.co.uk ident=pb) by fountain.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #4) id 11DlO0-0001F3-00; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 10:06:28 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) To: Christian Decker cc: "linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu" Subject: Re: Probs with serial dev In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 09 Aug 1999 05:08:55 +0200." <37AE4647.910F4B72@gmx.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 10:06:28 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing >I have a very strange problem with my serial device on my Acorn RISC-PC >under ARM-Linux. A test like 'echo asdas > /dev/ttyS0' results in a 'No >such device' message of the system. Allright, I have only one serial When the system boots, you should see a message like `tty00 at 0x3e8 is a 16550A'. If you aren't getting one of these then the serial driver is not installed (you can also check this by looking at /proc/devices). >look for the major number and so - /dev/ttyS0 has 4,64. So maybe that's That is correct. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Aug 9 10:48:40 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA16978 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 10:48:40 +0100 Received: (qmail 21002 invoked from network); 9 Aug 1999 09:48:40 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 9 Aug 1999 09:48:40 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 05:47:50 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 05:46:39 -0400 Received: from smaug.netwave.de ([194.162.128.45]:19475 "EHLO mail.netwave.de") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 05:43:48 -0400 Received: from otaku.nerdnet.de (postfix@as-line5.hb.netwave.de [195.185.99.132]) by mail.netwave.de (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA26352 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 11:43:44 +0200 Received: by otaku.nerdnet.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 94F52272F9; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 11:43:36 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 11:43:36 +0200 From: Jan-Uwe Finck To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: gcc-2.95 - gencheck not executable Message-ID: <19990809114336.A5593@mail.netwave.de> Reply-To: Jan-Uwe.Finck@bigfoot.de Mail-Followup-To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Hi again, has anybody else bumped into an error while trying to 'make' gcc-2.95 ? My compilation ended with a : make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/gcc-2.95/gcc/intl' ./gencheck > tmp-check.h /bin/sh: ./gencheck: cannot execute binary file make[1]: *** [s-check] Error 126 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/gcc-2.95/gcc' make: *** [all-gcc] Error 2 which took me to check the file-type( thanks P.! ), which is ELF 32-bit LSB executable, version 1. So, if I can't execute this, I wonder what to do and how I can ever build a ELF-version .. ? But as at least some of you were successful with this, I wonder what else is the problem ?! Kernel : 2.0.36 (a.out), binutils 2.9.1.0.25 installed, gcc configured as : --target=arm-linux --host=arm-linuxaout, which produced no errors. -- CU Jan-Uwe ------------------------------------------------- PGP-Public-Key on Request. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Aug 9 15:11:54 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA19143 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 15:11:54 +0100 Received: (qmail 15504 invoked from network); 9 Aug 1999 14:11:54 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 9 Aug 1999 14:11:54 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 10:10:35 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 10:06:11 -0400 Received: from sm1.texas.rr.com ([24.93.35.54]:2596 "EHLO mail.austin.rr.com") convert rfc822-to-8bit by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 10:03:42 -0400 Received: from cs9353-61.austin.rr.com ([24.93.53.61]) by mail.austin.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1875.185.18); Mon, 9 Aug 1999 09:03:18 -0500 Received: by cs9353-61.austin.rr.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BEE245.8C52A5C0@cs9353-61.austin.rr.com>; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 08:59:54 -0500 Message-ID: <01BEE245.8C52A5C0@cs9353-61.austin.rr.com> From: Randall Sears To: "'linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu'" Subject: Problem building gcc-2.95 for arm-linux Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 08:59:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Hello, I am trying to build gcc-2.95 for arm-linux. The build fails with the error: gcc-2.95/gcc/libgcc2.c:41 stdlib.h : No such file or directory I've downloaded, patched and installed the arm kernel headers (and built installed the binutils). I've downloaded and applied the latest patch for gcc-2.95 from the netwinder/users/p/philb directory. I'm running "configure" with --target=arm-linux --prefix=/usr/local/arm-linux --with-headers=/usr/local/arm-linux/include. I using "make all" as the make target. Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong? Thanks for any help. Randall Sears unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Aug 9 17:48:32 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA22297 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 17:48:32 +0100 Received: (qmail 11716 invoked from network); 9 Aug 1999 16:48:32 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 9 Aug 1999 16:48:32 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 12:45:54 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 12:42:46 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:15127 "EHLO globe.nexus.co.uk") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 12:40:39 -0400 Received: from [192.0.0.21] (helo=fountain.nexus.co.uk ident=mail) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11DsSZ-0006QO-00; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 17:39:39 +0100 Received: from [::ffff:127.0.0.1] (helo=fountain.nexus.co.uk ident=pb) by fountain.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #4) id 11DsSZ-0007pB-00; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 17:39:39 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) To: Randall Sears cc: "'linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu'" Subject: Re: Problem building gcc-2.95 for arm-linux In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 09 Aug 1999 08:59:53 CDT." <01BEE245.8C52A5C0@cs9353-61.austin.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 17:39:39 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing >I using "make all" as the make target. > >Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong? Nothing. See Chris Rutter's toolchain guide for an explanation. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Aug 9 19:15:17 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA23860 for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 19:15:17 +0100 Received: (qmail 25799 invoked from network); 9 Aug 1999 18:15:17 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 9 Aug 1999 18:15:17 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 13:57:11 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 13:51:46 -0400 Received: from rz03.FH-Karlsruhe.DE ([193.196.64.3]:2589 "HELO rz03.FH-Karlsruhe.DE") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 13:43:05 -0400 Received: from gmx.de([172.20.202.67]) (1178 bytes) by rz03.FH-Karlsruhe.DE via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp (sender: ) id for ; Mon, 9 Aug 1999 19:43:03 +0100 (CET) (Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #2 built 1998-Feb-5) Message-ID: <37AF129B.389893C2@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 19:40:43 +0200 From: Christian Decker Organization: University of Karlsruhe X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en-gb] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en-GB,en,en-* MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ARM-Linux-List Subject: login Problem after compiling a kernel Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Hi, there is another problem that makes me crazy. Some hours ago Phillip told me that the serial driver was not installed when I had my serial dev problem. So I have downloaded the Kernel 2.0.34 and the patch for this Kernel, then I've compiled the source and installed it. The System did a reboot and I came to the login prompt. I tried to login, but in the next moment I was on the login prompt again. So I have read the FAQ and the problem was described, but I only have 20 MB of RAM and not more than 24 MB. The old kernel 2.0.33 (it was precompiled) works. Any ideas??? -- Bye, Christian E-Mail: cd_KA@gmx.de unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Aug 10 11:58:11 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA31821 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 11:58:10 +0100 Received: (qmail 20564 invoked from network); 10 Aug 1999 10:58:11 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Aug 1999 10:58:11 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 06:56:10 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 06:56:02 -0400 Received: from nt4.el.utwente.nl ([130.89.33.14]:1025 "EHLO nt4.el.utwente.nl") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 06:55:07 -0400 Received: (from mark@localhost) by nt4.el.utwente.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA03429 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 12:55:05 +0200 Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 12:55:05 +0200 From: Mark van Doesburg Message-Id: <199908101055.MAA03429@nt4.el.utwente.nl> To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: ioport.o Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing I've tried to compile linux-2.2.10-rmk3 (with some small patches) and I can't create ioport.o There is indeed no ioport.[cS] in arch/arm/kernel and the patch -2.2.10-rmk3 removes this file. Removing ioport from the dependencies didn't work, in that case there is no sys_ioperm function. Any suggestions ? Mark. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Aug 10 12:01:51 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA31884 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 12:01:51 +0100 Received: (qmail 20709 invoked from network); 10 Aug 1999 11:01:52 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Aug 1999 11:01:52 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 07:01:23 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 07:00:56 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:15529 "EHLO globe.nexus.co.uk") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 07:00:36 -0400 Received: from [192.0.0.21] (helo=fountain.nexus.co.uk ident=mail) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11E9dK-0007PF-00; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 11:59:54 +0100 Received: from [::ffff:127.0.0.1] (helo=fountain.nexus.co.uk ident=pb) by fountain.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #4) id 11E9dJ-0001ti-00; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 11:59:53 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) To: Mark van Doesburg cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ioport.o In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 10 Aug 1999 12:55:05 +0200." <199908101055.MAA03429@nt4.el.utwente.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 11:59:53 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing In message <199908101055.MAA03429@nt4.el.utwente.nl>, Mark van Doesburg writes: >I've tried to compile linux-2.2.10-rmk3 (with some small patches) and I can't >create ioport.o There is indeed no ioport.[cS] in arch/arm/kernel and the >patch -2.2.10-rmk3 removes this file. > >Removing ioport from the dependencies didn't work, in that case there is no >sys_ioperm function. > >Any suggestions ? Delete sys_ioperm from the system call table as well. Nothing uses this call and it never did anything of value. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Aug 10 12:08:47 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA31963 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 12:08:46 +0100 Received: (qmail 21807 invoked from network); 10 Aug 1999 11:08:47 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Aug 1999 11:08:47 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 07:08:07 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 07:07:36 -0400 Received: from nt4.el.utwente.nl ([130.89.33.14]:1102 "EHLO nt4.el.utwente.nl") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 07:06:46 -0400 Received: (from mark@localhost) by nt4.el.utwente.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) id NAA03598; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 13:06:45 +0200 Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 13:06:45 +0200 From: Mark van Doesburg Message-Id: <199908101106.NAA03598@nt4.el.utwente.nl> To: pb@nexus.co.uk Subject: Re: ioport.o Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Delete sys_ioperm from the system call table as well. Nothing uses this call and it never did anything of value. Thanks, Mark. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Aug 10 14:37:35 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA02810 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 14:37:30 +0100 Received: (qmail 3678 invoked from network); 10 Aug 1999 13:37:31 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 10 Aug 1999 13:37:31 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 09:35:39 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 09:28:09 -0400 Received: from nt4.el.utwente.nl ([130.89.33.14]:1228 "EHLO nt4.el.utwente.nl") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 09:24:44 -0400 Received: (from mark@localhost) by nt4.el.utwente.nl (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA04786 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 15:24:41 +0200 Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 15:24:41 +0200 From: Mark van Doesburg Message-Id: <199908101324.PAA04786@nt4.el.utwente.nl> To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: kernel_thread Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing When I try to boot the 2.2.10-rmk3 kernel it stops at the point where it tries to start a kernel thread in init/main.c at the line: /* Launch bdflush from here, instead of the old syscall way. */ kernel_thread(bdflush, NULL, CLONE_FS | CLONE_FILES | CLONE_SIGHAND); Is there anything platform specific about this call ? I'm using the ebsa-285 as an addin board. (With some small patches) greetings, Mark. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Aug 11 06:39:52 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id GAA11952 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 06:39:52 +0100 Received: (qmail 32440 invoked from network); 11 Aug 1999 05:39:53 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Aug 1999 05:39:53 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 01:01:02 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 00:56:17 -0400 Received: from ns-inetext.inet.com ([199.171.211.140]:36705 "EHLO ns-inetext.inet.com") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 00:44:52 -0400 Received: from harpo.inetint.com (harpo [172.16.99.60]) by ns-inetext.inet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA10504 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 13:36:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from inet.com ([172.16.13.73]) by harpo.inetint.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA43A9 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 13:37:15 -0500 Message-ID: <37B07142.A0DCABB0@inet.com> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 13:36:50 -0500 From: Dave Baukus Organization: Inet Technologies Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: oops message Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------A8485DD5684DFDD8DB6DCBAD" Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------A8485DD5684DFDD8DB6DCBAD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have two driver modules that I am trying to load into the 2.2.10-rmk2 kernel on an ebsa285. Each module was ported to linux and tested on an ix86 platform. Under ARM linux each driver fails to load due to an exception. The exception appears to be related to dereferencing a NULL pointer. In following kernel oops message the PC appears to be in memset. The code is not that broken that we are passing a NULL pointer to memset. The call to memset is something like memset(&foo, 0, sizeof(struct foo)); where foo is declared statically in one of the *.c files of the driver. Any clues ? It almost appears as if the .data section is not getting relocated into the kernel address space when I do an insmod, but that's just wild speculation at this point. -- dave.baukus@inet.com Inet Technologies Inc. Plano, Texas --------------A8485DD5684DFDD8DB6DCBAD Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from inet.com ([172.16.13.81]) by harpo.inetint.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA1698 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 12:04:31 -0500 Sender: sxz Message-ID: <37B05B0B.34331D8@inet.com> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 12:02:03 -0500 From: Shuping Zhou Organization: Inet Technologies, Inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dave.baukus@inet.com Subject: oops message Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00002600 memmap = 00BCC000, pgd = c0bcc000 *pgd = 00946001, *pmd = 00946001, *pte = 00000000, *ppte = 00000000 Internal error: Oops: 0 CPU: 0 pc : [] lr : [<00000000>] sp : c0b8fec0 ip : 0000000f fp : c0b8fed8 r10: 400fd554 r9 : ffffffea r8 : c1817048 r7 : c181f23c r6 : 00000000 r5 : 00000000 r4 : 00002600 r3 : 00002600 r2 : 00000000 r1 : 00000000 r0 : 00002600 Flags: nzCv IRQs on FIQs on Mode SVC_32 Segment user Control: BCC171 Table: 00BCC171 DAC: 00000015 Process insmod (pid: 288, stackpage=c0b8f000) Stack: c0b8fea0: 00000000 c00f2c08 20000013 ffffffff c0b8fec0: c1817b5c 00002600 c181f030 c0b8fef4 c0b8fedc c181869c c1817b44 c181f030 c0b8fee0: c181ed18 00000000 c0b8ff0c c0b8fef8 c1818758 c1818628 c1818fec 000000fe c0b8ff00: c0b8ff28 c0b8ff10 c181be28 c18186f4 00000000 c1817000 00000000 c0b8ffb0 c0b8ff20: c0b8ff2c c00286dc c181bdc0 00000003 c1817048 c0b8ff3c c1817048 c0de0000 c0b8ff40: c0d9a000 00000048 c0120eb8 c1817048 0000823c 00000000 00000000 00000000 c0b8ff60: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 c0b8ff80: 00000000 00000000 00000000 02047510 c0017f28 00000080 c0b8e000 c0b8fff4 c0b8ffa0: 0200f020 00000000 c0b8ffb4 c0017da0 c00280ec 02047510 0200f020 02047510 c0b8ffc0: 0200f020 02047510 02047510 020100f0 0200effc c1817000 0000823c 0200f020 c0b8ffe0: 400fd554 bffffcd4 bffffcd8 bffffcc4 02003314 02005b8c 60000010 0200f020 Backtrace: Function entered at [] from [] r5 = c181f030 r4 = 00002600 Function entered at [] from [] r6 = 00000000 r5 = c181ed18 r4 = c181f030 Function entered at [] from [] r4 = 000000fe Function entered at [] from [] r6 = 00000000 r5 = c1817000 r4 = 00000000 Function entered at [] from [] r9 = 0200f020 r8 = c0b8fff4 r7 = c0b8e000 r6 = 00000080 r5 = c0017f28 r4 = 02047510 Code: e1a0e001 e25cc004 (a8a34002) a8a34002 a8a34002 --------------A8485DD5684DFDD8DB6DCBAD-- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Aug 11 08:56:34 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA12895 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 08:56:34 +0100 Received: (qmail 22415 invoked from network); 11 Aug 1999 07:56:34 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Aug 1999 07:56:34 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 01:56:31 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 01:31:42 -0400 Received: from smaug.netwave.de ([194.162.128.45]:32302 "EHLO mail.netwave.de") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 00:51:57 -0400 Received: from otaku.nerdnet.de (postfix@as-line29.hb.netwave.de [195.185.99.156]) by mail.netwave.de (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA09951 for ; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 23:37:04 +0200 Received: by otaku.nerdnet.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5F02E272F9; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 19:39:10 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 19:39:10 +0200 From: Jan-Uwe Finck To: "'linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu'" Subject: Re: Problem building gcc-2.95 for arm-linux Message-ID: <19990810193910.B2570@mail.netwave.de> Reply-To: Jan-Uwe.Finck@bigfoot.de Mail-Followup-To: "'linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu'" References: <01BEE245.8C52A5C0@cs9353-61.austin.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i In-Reply-To: <01BEE245.8C52A5C0@cs9353-61.austin.rr.com>; from Randall Sears on Mon, Aug 09, 1999 at 08:59:53AM -0500 Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing On Mon, Aug 09, 1999 at 08:59:53AM -0500, Randall Sears wrote: > Hello, > > I am trying to build gcc-2.95 for arm-linux. The build fails with the error: > > gcc-2.95/gcc/libgcc2.c:41 stdlib.h : No such file or directory > > I've downloaded, patched and installed the arm kernel headers (and built installed the binutils). I've downloaded and applied the latest patch for gcc-2.95 from the netwinder/users/p/philb directory. I'm running "configure" with > --target=arm-linux > --prefix=/usr/local/arm-linux > --with-headers=/usr/local/arm-linux/include. > > I using "make all" as the make target. I don't know if anybody answered this already, but you should use make LANGUAGES=c as far as I remember.. And if you have an aout-system, you should configure with --host=arm-linuxaout . And what does 'locate stdlib.h' say ? Is it anywhere on your system ? -- CU Jan-Uwe ------------------------------------------------- PGP-Public-Key on Request. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Aug 11 09:06:02 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA12990 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:06:02 +0100 Received: (qmail 23462 invoked from network); 11 Aug 1999 08:06:03 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Aug 1999 08:06:03 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 02:40:07 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 01:38:23 -0400 Received: from ns1.cableol.net ([194.168.4.220]:1878 "HELO ns1.cableol.net") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 01:00:28 -0400 Received: from [194.168.16.154] by ns1.cableol.net; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/22Feb96-0403PM) id AA16254; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 22:13:40 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org.uk (linux@raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA11517; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 22:13:23 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org.uk (8.7.4/8.7.3) id WAA00490; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 22:11:27 +0100 Message-Id: <199908102111.WAA00490@raistlin.armlinux.org.uk> Subject: Re: kernel_thread To: m.j.s.vandoesburg@student.utwente.nl (Mark van Doesburg) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 22:11:27 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <199908101324.PAA04786@nt4.el.utwente.nl> from "Mark van Doesburg" at Aug 10, 99 03:24:41 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Mark van Doesburg writes: > /* Launch bdflush from here, instead of the old syscall way. */ > kernel_thread(bdflush, NULL, CLONE_FS | CLONE_FILES | CLONE_SIGHAND); > > Is there anything platform specific about this call ? I'm using the ebsa-285 > as an addin board. (With some small patches) No. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.linux.org.uk --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Aug 11 16:06:46 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA16605 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 16:06:45 +0100 Received: (qmail 27043 invoked from network); 11 Aug 1999 15:06:46 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Aug 1999 15:06:46 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:54:43 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:10:13 -0400 Received: from smaug.netwave.de ([194.162.128.45]:20709 "EHLO mail.netwave.de") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:48:42 -0400 Received: from otaku.nerdnet.de (postfix@as-line11.hb.netwave.de [195.185.99.138]) by mail.netwave.de (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA06266 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 14:22:38 +0200 Received: by otaku.nerdnet.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D3138272FF; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 14:22:16 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 14:22:16 +0200 From: Jan-Uwe Finck To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: error : storage size isn't known ? Message-ID: <19990811142216.A2951@mail.netwave.de> Reply-To: Jan-Uwe.Finck@bigfoot.de Mail-Followup-To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing After getting over my last problems, the next one was not wide away : Again trying to compile gcc-2.95 (what else :-(),the next thing I bump into is : make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/gcc-2.95/libiberty' test x"no" != xyes || \ gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -I. -I./../include mkstemps.c -o pic/mkstemps.o gcc -c -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -g -O2 -I. -I./../include mkstemps.c In file included from /usr/include/sys/types.h:4, from /usr/include/fcntl.h:27, from mkstemps.c:31: /usr/include/linux/types.h:15: warning: empty declaration mkstemps.c: In function `mkstemps': mkstemps.c:72: storage size of `tv' isn't known make[1]: *** [mkstemps.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/gcc-2.95/libiberty' make: *** [all-libiberty] Error 2 The relevant lines of mkstemps.c look like this : #ifdef HAVE_GETTIMEOFDAY struct timeval tv; #endif but timeval doesn't seem to be defined somewhere, althoug I could find it in time.h.. This leaves me completely helpless again.. Still 2.0.36aout, binutils 2.9.1.0.25 installed, and on my long,stony way to build a new toolchain.. ;-) -- CU Jan-Uwe ------------------------------------------------- PGP-Public-Key on Request. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Aug 11 16:26:08 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA16749 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 16:26:08 +0100 Received: (qmail 340 invoked from network); 11 Aug 1999 15:26:09 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Aug 1999 15:26:09 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:34:56 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:46:21 -0400 Received: from pluto.dragonsys.com ([204.165.63.1]:33832 "HELO pluto-e.dragonsys.com") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:39:24 -0400 Received: from po.dragonsys.com by pluto-e.dragonsys.com via smtpd (for vger.rutgers.edu [128.6.190.2]) with SMTP; 11 Aug 1999 13:39:23 UT Received: from ishtar.dragonsys.com (ishtar.dragonsys.com [204.165.56.139]) by po.dragonsys.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA11285; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:02:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hydra.dragonsys.com.ishtar.dragonsys.com (bumble@hydra.dragonsys.com [172.16.2.21]) by ishtar.dragonsys.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA29062; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:02:08 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:02:08 -0400 Message-Id: <199908111302.JAA29062@ishtar.dragonsys.com> From: "Marc D. Bumble" To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Problem building gcc-2.95 for arm-linux Reply-to: Marc_Bumble@dragonsys.com, bumble@dragonsys.com Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing On Tues, Aug 10, 1999 Jan-Uwe wrote: > >On Mon, Aug 09, 1999 at 08:59:53AM -0500, Randall Sears wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I am trying to build gcc-2.95 for arm-linux. The build fails with the error: >> >> gcc-2.95/gcc/libgcc2.c:41 stdlib.h : No such file or directory >> >> I've downloaded, patched and installed the arm kernel headers >> (and built installed the binutils). I've downloaded and applied >> the latest patch for gcc-2.95 from the netwinder/users/p/philb >> directory. I'm running "configure" with >> --target=arm-linux >> --prefix=/usr/local/arm-linux >> --with-headers=/usr/local/arm-linux/include. >> >> I using "make all" as the make target. > >I don't know if anybody answered this already, but you should use >make LANGUAGES=c as far as I remember.. >And if you have an aout-system, you should configure with >--host=arm-linuxaout . > >And what does 'locate stdlib.h' say ? Is it anywhere on your system ? >-- >CU > Jan-Uwe I tried basically the same thing with gcc-2.95 attempting to build an i386-arm cross-compiler on a RH 6.0 i386 box. Built and installed binutils-2.9.1.0.25.tar.gz for the arm. This seemed to work okay. Installed Phil's gcc-2.95 patch. Then I also used configure with: --target=arm-linux --prefix=/usr/local/arm-linux --with-headers=/usr/local/arm-linux/include as my binutils prefix was the same. I did use "make LANGUAGES=c". I believe that libgcc1.S may be getting copied over incorrectly with two comment lines at the top which may be giving xgcc a problem. The top of /usr/local/arm-linux/src/gcc-2.95/arm-objdir/gcc/libgcc1.S appears as: --------------------------------------------------------------------- @ libgcc1 routines for ARM cpu. @ Division routines, written by Richard Earnshaw, (rearnsha@armltd.co.uk) /* Copyright (C) 1995, 1996, 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc. This file is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2, or (at your option) any later version. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Are the two @ symbols at the top correct? Am I doing something else incorrectly? Thanks for any assistance. An extract of the compilation fail is listed below. marc ---------------------------------------------------------------------- touch stmp-int-hdrs if [ -f libgcc2.ready ] ; then \ true; \ else \ touch libgcc2.ready; \ fi rm -f tmplibgcc1.a libgcc1.S cp ../../gcc/config/arm/lib1funcs.asm libgcc1.S for name in _udivsi3 _divsi3 _umodsi3 _modsi3 _dvmd_lnx; \ do \ echo ${name}; \ /usr/local/arm-linux/src/gcc-2.95/arm-objdir/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/local/arm-linux/src/gcc-2.95/arm-objdir/gcc/ -B/usr/local/arm-linux/arm-linux/bin/ -I/usr/local/arm-linux/arm-linux/include -O2 -DCROSS_COMPILE -DIN_GCC -g -O2 -I./include -fomit-frame-pointer -fPIC -g0 -DHAVE_GTHR_DEFAULT -DIN_LIBGCC2 -D__GCC_FLOAT_NOT_NEEDED -I. -I../../gcc -I../../gcc/config -I../../gcc/../include -c -DL${name} libgcc1.S; \ if [ $? -eq 0 ] ; then true; else exit 1; fi; \ mv libgcc1.o ${name}.o; \ arm-linux-ar rc tmplibgcc1.a ${name}.o; \ rm -f ${name}.o; \ done _udivsi3 /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s: Assembler messages: /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:2: Error: Rest of line ignored. First ignored character is `@'. /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:3: Error: Rest of line ignored. First ignored character is `@'. /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:72: Error: no such 386 instruction: `dividend' /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:73: Error: no such 386 instruction: `divisor' /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:74: Error: no such 386 instruction: `result' /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:75: Error: no such 386 instruction: `curbit' /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:76: Error: no such 386 instruction: `ip' /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:77: Error: no such 386 instruction: `sp' /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:78: Error: no such 386 instruction: `lr' /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:79: Error: no such 386 instruction: `pc' /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:87: Error: expecting operand after ','; got nothing /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:88: Error: no such 386 instruction: `beq' /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:89: Error: expecting operand after ','; got nothing /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:90: Error: expecting operand after ','; got nothing /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:91: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 instruction /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:92: Error: no such 386 instruction: `bcc' /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:94: Error: Rest of line ignored. First ignored character is `@'. /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:95: Error: Rest of line ignored. First ignored character is `@'. /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:96: Error: Rest of line ignored. First ignored character is `@'. /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:97: Error: Rest of line ignored. First ignored character is `@'. /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:98: Error: expecting operand after ','; got nothing /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:99: Error: no such 386 instruction: `cmpcc' /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:100: Error: no such 386 instruction: `movcc' /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:101: Error: no such 386 instruction: `movcc' /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:102: Error: no such 386 instruction: `bcc' /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:105: Error: Rest of line ignored. First ignored character is `@'. /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:106: Error: Rest of line ignored. First ignored character is `@'. /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:107: Error: expecting operand after ','; got nothing /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:108: Error: no such 386 instruction: `cmpcc' /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:109: Error: no such 386 instruction: `movcc' /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:110: Error: no such 386 instruction: `movcc' /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:111: Error: no such 386 instruction: `bcc' /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:114: Error: Rest of line ignored. First ignored character is `@'. /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:115: Error: Rest of line ignored. First ignored character is `@'. /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:116: Error: Rest of line ignored. First ignored character is `@'. /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:117: Error: Rest of line ignored. First ignored character is `@'. /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:118: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 instruction /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:119: Error: no such 386 instruction: `subcs' /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:120: Error: no such 386 instruction: `orrcs' /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:121: Error: more than 1 memory reference in instruction /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:122: Error: no such 386 instruction: `subcs' /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:123: Error: no such 386 instruction: `orrcs' /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:124: Error: more than 1 memory reference in instruction /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:125: Error: no such 386 instruction: `subcs' /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:126: Error: no such 386 instruction: `orrcs' /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:127: Error: more than 1 memory reference in instruction /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:128: Error: no such 386 instruction: `subcs' /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:129: Error: no such 386 instruction: `orrcs' /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:130: Error: expecting operand after ','; got nothing /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:131: Error: no such 386 instruction: `movnes' /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:132: Error: no such 386 instruction: `movne' /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:133: Error: no such 386 instruction: `bne' /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:135: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 instruction /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:136: Error: operands given don't match any known 386 instruction /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:139: Error: invalid char '[' begining second operand '[sp' /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:140: Error: no such 386 instruction: `bl' /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:141: Error: expecting operand after ','; got nothing /tmp/ccIMDCU2.s:142: Error: no such 386 instruction: `ldmia' make[1]: *** [libgcc1-asm.a] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/arm-linux/src/gcc-2.95/arm-objdir/gcc' make: *** [all-gcc] Error 2 unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Aug 11 20:27:26 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA19137 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 20:27:26 +0100 Received: (qmail 9071 invoked from network); 11 Aug 1999 19:27:26 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 11 Aug 1999 19:27:26 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 13:20:40 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 12:23:36 -0400 Received: from nexusel.demon.co.uk ([158.152.30.195]:16751 "EHLO globe.nexus.co.uk") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 12:00:54 -0400 Received: from [192.0.0.21] (helo=fountain.nexus.co.uk ident=mail) by globe.nexus.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11Eajc-0001Kw-00; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 16:56:12 +0100 Received: from fountain.nexus.co.uk ([::ffff:127.0.0.1] ident=pb) by fountain.nexus.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #4) id 11Eajc-0003Nl-00; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 16:56:12 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) To: Jan-Uwe.Finck@bigfoot.de cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: error : storage size isn't known ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 11 Aug 1999 14:22:16 +0200." <19990811142216.A2951@mail.netwave.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 16:56:11 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing >but timeval doesn't seem to be defined somewhere, althoug I could >find it in time.h.. It should be in some of your libc's header files. If not then it sounds like you have a broken C library installation. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Aug 13 06:57:23 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id GAA03872 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 06:57:23 +0100 Received: (qmail 25233 invoked from network); 13 Aug 1999 05:57:24 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 13 Aug 1999 05:57:24 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 01:47:57 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 01:04:52 -0400 Received: from [209.0.233.48] ([209.0.233.48]:61831 "HELO mail5.lax.netzero.net") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id ; Thu, 12 Aug 1999 23:48:34 -0400 Received: (qmail 20073 invoked by uid 0); 13 Aug 1999 00:04:16 -0000 Received: from pppa58-minneapolisb37-3r5110.saturn.bbn.com (HELO netzero.net) (4.13.247.24) by mail5.lax.netzero.net with SMTP; 13 Aug 1999 00:04:16 -0000 Message-ID: <37B36104.94417219@netzero.net> Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 19:04:20 -0500 From: Gaixia Zhang X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Hugh_Morgenbesser@dragonsys.com, Werner Almesberger , linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: linux-arm cross-compiling toolchain report... (troubles) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Hi, >I did this (actually did something pretty similar). But I still have questions. Do you still remeber what did to get around this problem? I believe a lot of people are looking for your successful story! >>>_muldi3 >>>./libgcc2.c:41: stdlib.h: No such file or directory >>>./libgcc2.c:42: unistd.h: No such file or directory >>>gmake[3]: *** [libgcc2.a] Error 1 >>Yeah, this is a common problem when building cross-compilers for the first >>time. The workaround is to edit gcc/config/arm/t-linux and add >>"-Dinhibit_libc" to TARGET_LIBGCC2_CFLAGS. You will also probably get errors >>building frame.c - to avoid those, add the "--disable-threads" option to >>configure, and then manually delete the offending #include . (This >>last bit was suggested by Werner Almesberger; I haven't actually tried it >>myself.) I always end up with the following errors: Checking version of arm-linux... gcc 2.95, bad ...... *** Some critical program is missing or too old. What I did is as follows: Install binutils-2.9.1.0.25.tar.gz without any patches Install linux-2.2.10.tar.gz with patch-2.2.10-rmk3.gz cp -a /usr/src/linux-2.2.10/linux/include/arm-asm /usr/arm-linux/inlcude/asm cp -a /usr/src/linux-2.2.10/linux/include/linux /usr/arm-linux/include/linux Install gcc-2.95.tar.gz ./configure --target=arm-linux --prefix=/usr make LANGUAGES=c Now it complains "stdlib.h: No such file or directory" Edit gcc/config/arm/t-linux and add "-Dinhibit_libc" and "-D__gthr_posix_h" to TARGET_LIBGCC2_CFLAGS Delete #include "gthr.h" in libgcc2.c Add the "--disable-threads" option to configure Then it tries to remove some directory and complains it is not empty, I removed it manually and resume "make LANGUAGES=c", it finished w/o error, and I can do "make LANGUAGES=c install" Install glibc-2.1.tar.gz with glibc-linuxthread-2.1.tar.gz and glib-crypt-2.0.111.tar.gz ./configure arm-linux --build=i686-pc-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr/arm-linux --enable-add-ons Now comes to "gcc 2.95, bad" I also tried Werner's directions as follows: Build gcc: - get the following files ftp://egcs.cygnus.com/pub/egcs/snapshots/1999-06-23/egcs-core-19990623.tar.gz ftp://ftp.netwinder.org/users/p/philb/gcc-2.95-diff-990623.gz ftp://lrcftp.epfl.ch/pub/people/almesber/psion/egcs-19990623-xdev-1.patch.gz - be sure to have bison and autoconf installed - tar xfz egcs-core-19990623.tar.gz - cd egcs-19990623/gcc/config/arm - zcat ../../../../gcc-2.95-diff-990623.gz | patch -s - cd ../../.. - zcat ../egcs-19990623-xdev-1.patch.gz | patch -p1 -s - if very short on space, rm ../egcs-core-19990623.tar.gz now - ./configure --target=arm-linux --prefix=/scratch/psion/xdev --disable-threads - make cross It will stop after a while with with make[1]: *** No rule to make target `c++', needed by `native'. Stop. make[1]: Leaving directory `/scratch/psion/xdev-1/egcs-19990623/gcc' make: *** [cross] Error 2 - make install LANGUAGES=c This one should finish without errors. Again, when I tried to config glibc-2.1, it complains "gcc 2.95, bad" Thanks, Gaixia Zhang ________________________________________________________ NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Aug 13 16:29:54 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA01320 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 16:29:53 +0100 Received: (qmail 11434 invoked from network); 13 Aug 1999 11:30:56 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 13 Aug 1999 11:30:56 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 06:33:43 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 05:18:06 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239]:2744 "EHLO kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 05:06:40 -0400 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org ident=phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11FCbn-0005Ox-00; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 09:22:39 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) To: Gaixia Zhang cc: Hugh_Morgenbesser@dragonsys.com, Werner Almesberger , linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: linux-arm cross-compiling toolchain report... (troubles) In-Reply-To: Message from Gaixia Zhang of "Thu, 12 Aug 1999 19:04:20 CDT." <37B36104.94417219@netzero.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 09:22:38 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing >Install glibc-2.1.tar.gz with glibc-linuxthread-2.1.tar.gz and >glib-crypt-2.0.111.tar.gz >./configure arm-linux --build=i686-pc-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr/arm-linux >--enable-add-ons > Now comes to "gcc 2.95, bad" Get glibc 2.1.2pre2 and this should be fixed. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Aug 13 16:35:40 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA01370 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 16:35:40 +0100 Received: (qmail 11587 invoked from network); 13 Aug 1999 15:09:51 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 13 Aug 1999 15:09:51 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 11:03:38 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 09:50:51 -0400 Received: from grynet.passagen.se ([195.163.107.36]:16694 "EHLO convert rfc822-to-8bited successfully)=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=01?= grynet.passagen.se") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 09:11:46 -0400 Received: from joagont (wiiusc.wii.ericsson.net [192.36.108.17]) by grynet.passagen.se (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id PAA11849 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 15:11:40 +0200 (MDT) Message-ID: <009701bee58d$67f065f0$6d0b010a@wii.ericsson.net> From: "Joakim Goterdal" To: Subject: Re: Problem with 285 and Am79C973 Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 15:11:50 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > I'm working on a driver for the Am79C973 Ethernet controller that we use > on our board. (The Linux PCNet driver needs to be adapted a little bit > for ARM and for this chip, but I'm beginning with a driver for Russel's BIOS). Maybe I have a similar problem. While supported on i386, I can not get Am79C970A or Am79C978 to work on EBSA285. Do these chips need an ARM adapted pcnet32 driver to work? In my case I have bootp enabled. When bootp is sent, I do not get any interrupts, and no packets on the ethernet wire. But later on, when bootp has done a number of retries and timed out, I see a bootp packet on the wire and I get an interrupt. See below. Any hints on what I could do to correct this? (I have it working with other network adapters like DEC 21040.) Thanks for any help, Joakim Linux version 2.2.10-rmk3: pcnet32.c: PCI bios is present, checking for devices... Found PCnet/PCI at 0xf200, irq 22. PCnet chip version is 0x62621003. eth0: PCnet/PCI II 79C970A at 0xf200, 00 00 4b 30 8d 81 assigned IRQ 22. pcnet32.c:v1.21 31.3.99 tsbogend@alpha.franken.de eth0: pcnet32_open() irq 22 tx/rx rings 0xe01fd900/0xe01fd800 init 0xe01fda00. eth0: exiting interrupt, csr0=0x0043. eth0: PCNET32 open after 5 ticks, init block 0xe01fda00 csr0 01c3. eth0: exiting interrupt, csr0=0x0043. eth0: exiting interrupt, csr0=0x0043. Sending BOOTP requests...eth0: pcnet32_start_xmit() called, csr0 0043. .eth0: pcnet32_start_xmit() called, csr0 0043. .eth0: pcnet32_start_xmit() called, csr0 0043. .eth0: pcnet32_start_xmit() called, csr0 0043. .eth0: pcnet32_start_xmit() called, csr0 0043. .eth0: pcnet32_start_xmit() called, csr0 0043. .eth0: pcnet32_start_xmit() called, csr0 0043. .eth0: pcnet32_start_xmit() called, csr0 0043. .eth0: pcnet32_start_xmit() called, csr0 0043. .eth0: pcnet32_start_xmit() called, csr0 0043. . timed out! IP-Config: Auto-configuration of network failed. eth0: exiting interrupt, csr0=0x0073. eth0: interrupt csr0=0x2f3 new csr=0x33. eth0: exiting interrupt, csr0=0x0073. eth0: Shutting down ethercard, status was 73. Root-NFS: No NFS server available, giving up. VFS: Unable to mount root fs via NFS, trying floppy. VFS: Cannot open root device 02:00 Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 02:00 unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Aug 13 21:32:46 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA01455 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 21:32:46 +0100 Received: (qmail 20695 invoked from network); 13 Aug 1999 19:32:45 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 13 Aug 1999 19:32:45 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 14:20:20 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 13:09:36 -0400 Received: from smaug.netwave.de ([194.162.128.45]:22592 "EHLO mail.netwave.de") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 12:09:01 -0400 Received: from otaku.nerdnet.de (postfix@as-line40.hb.netwave.de [195.185.99.167]) by mail.netwave.de (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA22830 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 18:09:00 +0200 Received: by otaku.nerdnet.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D6844272FF; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 18:08:51 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 18:08:51 +0200 From: Jan-Uwe Finck To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: gcc-2.95 : ./gengenrtl tmp-genrtl.h tmp-genrtl.c Message-ID: <19990813180851.A584@mail.netwave.de> Reply-To: Jan-Uwe.Finck@bigfoot.de Mail-Followup-To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Yes, I'm still trying the same.. After getting over the last problems, the next looks like this : ./gengenrtl tmp-genrtl.h tmp-genrtl.c statically linked ./move-if-change tmp-genrtl.h genrtl.h mv: tmp-genrtl.h: No such file or directory make[1]: *** [s-genrtl] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/gcc-2.95/gcc' As I'm not sure where or how tmp-genrtl.h or tmp-grnrtl.c are made, I'm simply stuck. The files themselves are not on the system, I hope this is normal.. (just guessing because of their name... :-) ) Even manipulating gcc/config/arm/t-linux and libgcc2.c brings no difference. Any ideas, anybody ? P.S.: Maybe the problem is related more to 'gegenrtl' ? -- CU Jan-Uwe ------------------------------------------------- PGP-Public-Key on Request. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Aug 13 23:27:32 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA02952 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 23:27:32 +0100 Received: (qmail 20121 invoked from network); 13 Aug 1999 22:27:31 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 13 Aug 1999 22:27:31 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 17:39:22 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 16:32:34 -0400 Received: from ns1.cableol.net ([194.168.4.220]:4858 "HELO ns1.cableol.net") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 15:39:18 -0400 Received: from galatea-43.cableol.net by ns1.cableol.net; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/22Feb96-0403PM) id AA02500; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 20:38:42 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org.uk (linux@raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA23763; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 20:39:24 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org.uk (8.7.4/8.7.3) id UAA01151; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 20:36:40 +0100 Message-Id: <199908131936.UAA01151@raistlin.armlinux.org.uk> Subject: Re: gcc-2.95 : ./gengenrtl tmp-genrtl.h tmp-genrtl.c To: Jan-Uwe.Finck@bigfoot.de Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 20:36:38 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <19990813180851.A584@mail.netwave.de> from "Jan-Uwe Finck" at Aug 13, 99 06:08:51 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Jan-Uwe Finck writes: > ./gengenrtl tmp-genrtl.h tmp-genrtl.c > statically linked > > As I'm not sure where or how tmp-genrtl.h or tmp-grnrtl.c are made, > I'm simply stuck. The program 'gengenrtl' generates them. However, it seems that it's startup code is getting confused and it thinks ldd is calling it (hence the 'statically linked' thing). What architecture are you compiling this on? _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.linux.org.uk --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Aug 13 23:31:28 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA03038 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 23:31:28 +0100 Received: (qmail 20959 invoked from network); 13 Aug 1999 22:31:27 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 13 Aug 1999 22:31:27 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 17:42:09 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 16:37:38 -0400 Received: from smaug.netwave.de ([194.162.128.45]:9790 "EHLO mail.netwave.de") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 15:46:13 -0400 Received: from otaku.nerdnet.de (postfix@as-line43.hb.netwave.de [195.185.99.170]) by mail.netwave.de (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA30478 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 21:46:10 +0200 Received: by otaku.nerdnet.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1456D27300; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 21:46:02 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 21:46:02 +0200 From: Jan-Uwe Finck To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: gcc-2.95 : ./gengenrtl tmp-genrtl.h tmp-genrtl.c Message-ID: <19990813214602.A1134@mail.netwave.de> Reply-To: Jan-Uwe.Finck@bigfoot.de Mail-Followup-To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu References: <19990813180851.A584@mail.netwave.de> <199908131936.UAA01151@raistlin.armlinux.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i In-Reply-To: <199908131936.UAA01151@raistlin.armlinux.org.uk>; from Russell King - ARM Linux Admin on Fri, Aug 13, 1999 at 08:36:38PM +0100 Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing On Fri, Aug 13, 1999 at 08:36:38PM +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote: > Jan-Uwe Finck writes: > > ./gengenrtl tmp-genrtl.h tmp-genrtl.c > > statically linked > > > > As I'm not sure where or how tmp-genrtl.h or tmp-grnrtl.c are made, > > I'm simply stuck. > > The program 'gengenrtl' generates them. However, it seems that it's > startup code is getting confused and it thinks ldd is calling it (hence > the 'statically linked' thing). What architecture are you compiling this > on? A RiscPC600 with the SA110 (I suppose it's the buggy one, didn't check it..) -- CU Jan-Uwe ------------------------------------------------- PGP-Public-Key on Request. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Aug 14 00:35:24 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA04130 for ; Sat, 14 Aug 1999 00:35:24 +0100 Received: (qmail 32744 invoked from network); 13 Aug 1999 23:35:22 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 13 Aug 1999 23:35:22 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 19:19:40 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 18:42:07 -0400 Received: from ns-inetext.inet.com ([199.171.211.140]:40790 "EHLO ns-inetext.inet.com") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 18:07:36 -0400 Received: from harpo.inetint.com (harpo [172.16.99.60]) by ns-inetext.inet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA12309 for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 17:06:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from inet.com ([172.16.13.73]) by harpo.inetint.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA51AD for ; Fri, 13 Aug 1999 17:06:37 -0500 Message-ID: <37B496D4.EC6921B5@inet.com> Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 17:06:12 -0500 From: Dave Baukus Organization: Inet Technologies Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Loading modules References: <37B07142.A0DCABB0@inet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing I'm having trouble dynamically loading modules into the 2.2.10-rmk2 kernel. I have broken the problem down to a very trivial kernel module; it consists of the following 2 C files: fooX.c: --------------------------------- #define MODVERSIONS #include #define EXPORT_SYMTAB #include #include #include /* printk() */ extern void foo(void); int init_module(void) { printk("init_module: entered\n"); foo(); printk("init_module: exit\n"); return 0; } void cleanup_module(void) { printk("cleanup_module: entered\n"); printk("cleanup_module: exit\n"); } fooY.c ------------------------------------ #define MODVERSIONS #include #include /* printk() */ void foo(void) { printk("foo enter "); printk("foo "); printk("foo "); printk("foo "); printk("foo exit\n"); } ---------- I build it like: /opt/INETlgnu/bin/armv4l-inet-linux-gcc -o fooX.o -mapcs-32 -mshort-load-bytes -mcpu=strongarm110 -Wall -O2 -pipe -Wstrict-prototypes -D DEBUG=4 -D __KERNEL__ -D MODULE -c fooX.c /opt/INETlgnu/bin/armv4l-inet-linux-gcc -o fooY.o -mapcs-32 -mshort-load-bytes -mcpu=strongarm110 -Wall -O2 -pipe -Wstrict-prototypes -D DEBUG=4 -D __KERNEL__ -D MODULE -c fooY.c /opt/INETlgnu/bin/armv4l-inet-linux-ld -o foo.o -r fooX.o fooY.o ---------------- Every time this module is loaded it gets kernel Ooops from, I think, printk() or on the return from printk(). The funny thing is that if put the function foo() in the fooX.c source file, thus reducing the module to 1 .o file, then the module loads and print, and unloads as expected. Am I building this thing wrong ? Suggestions, please. -- dave.baukus@inet.com Inet Technologies Inc. Plano, Texas unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Aug 15 12:50:00 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA30723 for ; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 12:50:00 +0100 Received: (qmail 14302 invoked from network); 15 Aug 1999 11:49:59 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 15 Aug 1999 11:49:59 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 07:49:25 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 07:48:56 -0400 Received: from smaug.netwave.de ([194.162.128.45]:6863 "EHLO mail.netwave.de") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 07:48:47 -0400 Received: from otaku.nerdnet.de (postfix@as-line27.hb.netwave.de [195.185.99.154]) by mail.netwave.de (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA01321; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 13:48:30 +0200 Received: by otaku.nerdnet.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 92E30272AF; Sun, 15 Aug 1999 13:48:21 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 13:48:21 +0200 From: Jan-Uwe Finck To: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: gcc-2.95 : ./gengenrtl tmp-genrtl.h tmp-genrtl.c Message-ID: <19990815134821.B4311@mail.netwave.de> Reply-To: Jan-Uwe.Finck@bigfoot.de Mail-Followup-To: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin , linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu References: <19990814093121.A3758@mail.netwave.de> <199908141214.NAA29565@flint.armlinux.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i In-Reply-To: <199908141214.NAA29565@flint.armlinux.org.uk>; from Russell King - ARM Linux Admin on Sat, Aug 14, 1999 at 01:14:56PM +0100 Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing On Sat, Aug 14, 1999 at 01:14:56PM +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote: > Jan-Uwe Finck writes: > > [root@riscy gcc]# ldd gengenrtl > > statically linked (ELF) > > Hmm, this message is different from the one which was issued while > compiling, which was just the 'statically linked' part. Can you confirm > this? After trying to understand this thing I stumbled across this : gcc -DCROSS_COMPILE -DIN_GCC -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -o gencheck \ gencheck.o ` case "obstack.o" in ?*) echo obstack.o ;; esac ` ` case "" in ?*) echo ;; esac ` ` case "" in ?*) echo ;; esac ` ` case "" in ?*) echo ;; esac ` ` case "" in ?*) echo ;; esac ` ld: warning: cannot find entry symbol _start; defaulting to 02000080 ./gencheck > tmp-check.h statically linked Maybe this ld-warning gives a hint ? I suppose this behaviour is _not_ normal, but as may programming-skills are nearly non-existent, I can't tell. -- CU Jan-Uwe ------------------------------------------------- PGP-Public-Key on Request. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Aug 16 08:03:58 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA14006 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 08:03:58 +0100 Received: (qmail 6529 invoked from network); 16 Aug 1999 07:03:58 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 16 Aug 1999 07:03:58 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 03:02:10 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 03:00:26 -0400 Received: from kcmso1.att.com ([192.128.133.45]:40066 "EHLO kcmso1.proxy.att.com") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 02:59:09 -0400 Received: from frgmsx3.emea.att.com ([135.76.188.29]) by kcmso1.proxy.att.com (AT&T IPNS/MSO-2.2) with ESMTP id CAA13503 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 02:59:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by FRGMSX3 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 09:02:15 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Vater, Thomas" To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Error building glibc2.1.2pre2 Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 09:02:10 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Hello, after a successfully build of gcc 2.95 as a cross compiler from arm-linuxaout to arm-linux (on a RISC PC) I turned my head to glibc 2.1.2pre (as suggested). Unfortunately it falls over an error in the following line: make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/glibc-2.1.2/misc' arm-linux-gcc ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/sysctl.c -c -O -Wall -Winline -Wstrict-prototypes -Wwrite-strings -g -I../include -I. -I.. -I../libio -I../sysdeps/arm/elf -I../crypt/sysdeps/unix -I../linuxthreads/sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux -I../linuxthreads/sysdeps/pthread -I../linuxthreads/sysdeps/unix/sysv -I../linuxthreads/sysdeps/unix -I../linuxthreads/sysdeps/arm -I../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/arm -I../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux -I../sysdeps/gnu -I../sysdeps/unix/common -I../sysdeps/unix/mman -I../sysdeps/unix/inet -I../sysdeps/unix/sysv -I../sysdeps/unix/arm -I../sysdeps/unix -I../sysdeps/posix -I../sysdeps/arm/fpu -I../sysdeps/arm -I../sysdeps/wordsize-32 -I../sysdeps/ieee754 -I../sysdeps/libm-ieee754 -I../sysdeps/generic/elf -I../sysdeps/generic -D_LIBC_REENTRANT -include ../include/libc-symbols.h -o sysctl.o Since I forgot to send stderr to the file I have to give the error message from memory. It said something like __NR__sysctl not defined in line 42 I think. Does that ring any bell? Thanks for any help. Thomas unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Aug 16 20:25:57 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA05551 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 20:25:52 +0100 Received: (qmail 11492 invoked from network); 16 Aug 1999 19:25:50 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 16 Aug 1999 19:25:50 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 15:16:29 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 15:07:52 -0400 Received: from ns1.cableol.net ([194.168.4.220]:1449 "HELO ns1.cableol.net") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 14:57:15 -0400 Received: from galatea-23.cableol.net by ns1.cableol.net; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/22Feb96-0403PM) id AA00769; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 19:57:20 +0100 Received: from flint.armlinux.org.uk (root@flint [192.168.0.4]) by caramon.armlinux.org.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA08152; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 19:57:59 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by flint.armlinux.org.uk (8.8.7/8.7.3) id TAA12078; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 19:56:10 +0100 Message-Id: <199908161856.TAA12078@flint.armlinux.org.uk> Subject: Re: Error building glibc2.1.2pre2 To: t.vater@de.att.com (Vater Thomas) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 19:56:09 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Vater, Thomas" at Aug 16, 99 09:02:10 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Vater, Thomas writes: > Since I forgot to send stderr to the file I have to give the error message > from memory. It said something like __NR__sysctl not defined in line 42 I > think. Does that ring any bell? Which kernel source do you have installed in /usr/src/linux? _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.linux.org.uk --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Aug 16 22:25:57 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA07596 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 22:25:57 +0100 Received: (qmail 28373 invoked from network); 16 Aug 1999 21:25:55 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 16 Aug 1999 21:25:55 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 17:22:45 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 16:56:34 -0400 Received: from [216.46.81.227] ([216.46.81.227]:45233 "EHLO ns.vikingtv.com") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 16:46:30 -0400 Received: from home.se (ip-216-46-79-13.cust.terabit.net [216.46.79.13]) by ns.vikingtv.com (8.9.1b+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA15532 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 16:40:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37B87858.281A2145@home.se> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 16:45:12 -0400 From: thomas olausson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5-15 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: evaluation platform Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Anyone on this list using the Intel SA-1100 Evaluation Platform? I'm trying to build a linux-2.2.2-kernel for it. Thomas unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Aug 17 12:37:24 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA23567 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 12:37:24 +0100 Received: (qmail 12954 invoked from network); 17 Aug 1999 11:32:43 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 17 Aug 1999 11:32:43 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 03:35:14 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 02:41:35 -0400 Received: from kwanon.research.canon.com.au ([203.12.172.254]:11716 "HELO kwanon.research.canon.com.au") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 02:15:35 -0400 Received: (qmail 9233 invoked from network); 17 Aug 1999 03:21:53 -0000 Received: from eos.research.canon.com.au (203.12.175.190) by kwanon-heat.research.canon.com.au with SMTP; 17 Aug 1999 03:21:53 -0000 Received: from hodges.research.canon.com.au (hodges.research.canon.com.au [203.12.174.30]) by eos.research.canon.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67CE7428D for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:22:29 +1000 (EST) Received: by hodges.research.canon.com.au (Postfix, from userid 178) id DDFB18D4E; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:21:52 +1000 (EST) From: Mark Pulver MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14264.54608.122255.767636@hodges.research.canon.com.au> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:21:52 +1000 (EST) To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: elf rodata / data sections X-Mailer: VM 6.71 under 21.1 "20 Minutes to Nikko" XEmacs Lucid (patch 2) Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing I'm working on a arm-elf cross compiler for a Brutus board. My latest problem trying to get a stand-alone system going (yet to happen) appears to be in a routine to init memory that does the following: SAir_InitBSSMemory: STMFD sp!, {v1-v5, lr} LDR v1, SA_TopOfROM @ Copy predefined variables from here.. LDR v2, SA_StartOfBSS @ ..to here LDR v3, SA_ZeroBSS @ 'C' BSS starts here CMP v1, v2 @ Make sure there are some.. BEQ 8f 7: CMP v2, v3 @ Check if done.. LDRCC v4, [v1], #4 @ if not, get word and store to RAM STRCC v4, [v2], #4 BCC 7b I've managed to the get the linker to set these to: SA_TopOfROM: .word _etext SA_StartOfBSS: .word .data SA_ZeroBSS: .word __bss_start__ _etext resulted to the start of .rodata section: % arm-elf-objdump --header bounce3.elf bounce3.elf: file format elf32-littlearm Sections: Idx Name Size VMA LMA File off Algn 0 .text 000049e8 00008000 00008000 00008000 2**2 CONTENTS, ALLOC, LOAD, READONLY, CODE 1 .rodata 00000100 0000c9e8 0000c9e8 0000c9e8 2**2 CONTENTS, ALLOC, LOAD, READONLY, DATA 2 .data 00000470 0000cbe8 0000cbe8 0000cbe8 2**2 CONTENTS, ALLOC, LOAD, DATA 3 .bss 0013cc0c 00010000 00010000 00010000 2**15 ALLOC So the above assembler should copy the .rodata section on top of the .data section until it rearches the .bss section. (Actually to the end of the .data section, __bss_start__ was assigned 0xd058, .data + 470) The .rodata is only 0x100 in size, and the .data is 0x470, so it not big enough to initialize the whole .data area. As a result, all the .data section is not inialize correctly. What happening here? I've also noticed that some c file that initialize global variables do not it a .rodata section, while others do. Mark unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Aug 17 14:13:17 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA27047 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:13:17 +0100 Received: (qmail 16958 invoked from network); 17 Aug 1999 11:38:43 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 17 Aug 1999 11:38:43 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 06:38:44 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 06:06:18 -0400 Received: from wilt.congruent.com ([38.249.145.11]:1924 "EHLO wilt.congruent.com") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 04:13:36 -0400 Received: by wilt.congruent.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id <3XXAMWSW>; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 18:13:50 -0400 Message-ID: <30E5734D98AAD0118B850020AFF8D89013C0C7@wilt.congruent.com> From: Bob Pascazio To: "'linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu'" Subject: Jornada 820 Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 18:13:49 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing The Jornada with the SA1100 has 16 Mb Rom. Does anybody know if this is flash? Anybody actively working with Jornada? -Bob unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Aug 17 14:29:43 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA27636 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:29:38 +0100 Received: (qmail 17528 invoked from network); 17 Aug 1999 11:39:28 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 17 Aug 1999 11:39:28 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 02:44:04 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 02:17:25 -0400 Received: from ckmso1.att.com ([12.20.58.69]:33104 "EHLO ckmso1.proxy.att.com") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 02:08:25 -0400 Received: from frgmsx3.emea.att.com ([135.76.188.29]) by ckmso1.proxy.att.com (AT&T IPNS/MS-2.2) with ESMTP id CAA11924 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 02:08:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by FRGMSX3 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 08:11:24 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Vater, Thomas" To: "'Russell King - ARM Linux Admin'" Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: RE: Error building glibc2.1.2pre2 Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 08:11:14 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing > Vater, Thomas writes: > > Since I forgot to send stderr to the file I have to give > the error message > > from memory. It said something like __NR__sysctl not > defined in line 42 I > > think. Does that ring any bell? > > Which kernel source do you have installed in /usr/src/linux? It's the 2.0.35 one. Should it be a 2.2 like? Thomas unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Aug 17 14:39:51 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA27969 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:39:50 +0100 Received: (qmail 17885 invoked from network); 17 Aug 1999 11:39:58 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 17 Aug 1999 11:39:58 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 02:46:38 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 02:18:37 -0400 Received: from [216.46.81.227] ([216.46.81.227]:45309 "EHLO ns.vikingtv.com") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 02:09:03 -0400 Received: from home.se (ip-216-46-79-13.cust.terabit.net [216.46.79.13]) by ns.vikingtv.com (8.9.1b+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA15692 for ; Mon, 16 Aug 1999 18:09:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37B88D50.B6EF823@home.se> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 18:14:40 -0400 From: thomas olausson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5-15 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: binary into AIF References: <4.2.0.58.19990816150538.019a8c10@mail1.dcomm.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing The problem I have with the SA-1100 evaluation board is that the boot loader expects gzipped AIF kernels. Gzip is easy, but how do I make binaries into AIF? Thomas unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Aug 17 15:36:54 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA30106 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:36:54 +0100 Received: (qmail 16894 invoked from network); 17 Aug 1999 13:08:09 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 17 Aug 1999 13:08:09 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 09:05:09 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 08:55:02 -0400 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU ([129.94.242.29]:4833 "HELO note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 08:44:08 -0400 Received: From paulaner With LocalMail ; Tue, 17 Aug 99 22:42:25 +1000 From: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" To: Bob Pascazio Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:42:21 +1000 (EST) X-Sender: awiggins@paulaner.disy.cse.unsw.EDU.AU cc: "'linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu'" Subject: Re: Jornada 820 In-Reply-To: <30E5734D98AAD0118B850020AFF8D89013C0C7@wilt.congruent.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing On Mon, 16 Aug 1999, Bob Pascazio wrote: > The Jornada with the SA1100 has 16 Mb Rom. Does anybody know if this is > flash? Anybody actively working with Jornada? Its ROM but its replacable. (ie its a little rom module) so if you can manufacture something similar you can replace it., Not a light task though. Cheers Adam > > -Bob > unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu > unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Aug 17 16:24:29 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA31761 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 16:24:29 +0100 Received: (qmail 16831 invoked from network); 17 Aug 1999 14:51:11 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 17 Aug 1999 14:51:11 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 10:21:35 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 10:05:16 -0400 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU ([129.94.242.29]:1133 "HELO note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 09:39:53 -0400 Received: From paulaner With LocalMail ; Tue, 17 Aug 99 07:29:50 +1000 From: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" To: thomas olausson Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 07:29:50 +1000 (EST) X-Sender: awiggins@paulaner.disy.cse.unsw.EDU.AU cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: evaluation platform In-Reply-To: <37B87858.281A2145@home.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing On Mon, 16 Aug 1999, thomas olausson wrote: > Anyone on this list using the Intel SA-1100 Evaluation Platform? > > I'm trying to build a linux-2.2.2-kernel for it. Yep got one here thats running 2.2.10. Thats if your talkinga bout the Brutus. What exactly are you after? Cheers Adam > > Thomas > unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu > unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Aug 17 19:00:57 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA05403 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 19:00:57 +0100 Received: (qmail 4639 invoked from network); 17 Aug 1999 17:59:40 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 17 Aug 1999 17:59:40 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:44:15 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 12:46:32 -0400 Received: from mailhub2.liv.ac.uk ([138.253.100.95]:39129 "EHLO mailhub2.liv.ac.uk") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 12:01:54 -0400 Received: from inbox.liv.ac.uk ([138.253.100.92]) by mailhub2.liv.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11GlgO-00010R-00 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:01:52 +0100 Received: from pc084085 (pc084085.melgrove.liv.ac.uk [138.253.84.85]) by inbox.liv.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.4-ajt4b) with SMTP id RAA07049 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 17:01:52 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 16:58:34 +0000 From: "J.Bland" To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Where is host? Message-ID: <994123349%J.Bland@pc084085.melgrove.liv.ac.uk> X-Organization: Liverpool University. X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40d for RISC OS X-Editor: Zap, using ZapEmail 0.22 (27 Nov 1998) patch-3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.61b Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Dear all, The standard distribution doesn't appear to have the host command and a user on my machine would like this but I can't find the source on any search engine or in any obvious places like inetutils etc. Anyone know where host is hiding? Cheers, John -- John Bland Webmaster and Ph.D. Research Student, M.Phys (Hons) Grad.Inst.P Condensed Matter Physics Department, J.Bland@liv.ac.uk The University of Liverpool http://www.sliced.uk.eu.org/~shrike http://www.liv.ac.uk/~olmsg01/physics/ "We're young, rich and full of sugar! What do we do now?" - Simpsons unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Aug 17 20:23:08 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA08674 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 20:23:08 +0100 Received: (qmail 21602 invoked from network); 17 Aug 1999 19:23:06 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 17 Aug 1999 19:23:06 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:29:37 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:55:16 -0400 Received: from deepwell.com ([209.63.174.12]:2048 "HELO kerouac.deepwell.com") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:14:53 -0400 Received: (qmail 679 invoked from network); 17 Aug 1999 17:58:09 -0000 Received: from proxy.dcomm.net (HELO terry) (209.63.175.10) by deepwell.com with SMTP; 17 Aug 1999 17:58:09 -0000 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990817100814.033aa970@mail1.dcomm.net> X-Sender: terry.arm@mail.deepwell.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 10:11:43 -0700 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu From: Terry Ewing Subject: Re: evaluation platform In-Reply-To: References: <37B87858.281A2145@home.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing I'm looking to build a strongarm processor running Linux into a Network Appliance I'm building. Would you people recommend I use the Brutus for development or is there another Evaluation Platform available? Because I'm just a hobbyist at this stage I'm price sensitive (Yes, that means dirt poor) but I'd like to start developing around the strongarm rather than just throwing a PC104 CPU in there. At 07:29 AM 8/17/99 +1000, you wrote: >On Mon, 16 Aug 1999, thomas olausson wrote: > > > Anyone on this list using the Intel SA-1100 Evaluation Platform? > > > > I'm trying to build a linux-2.2.2-kernel for it. > > Yep got one here thats running 2.2.10. Thats if your talkinga bout >the Brutus. What exactly are you after? > > Cheers Adam > > > > Thomas > > unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu > > > >unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Aug 17 20:56:52 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA09796 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 20:56:52 +0100 Received: (qmail 28792 invoked from network); 17 Aug 1999 19:56:46 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 17 Aug 1999 19:56:46 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:51:22 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:07:37 -0400 Received: from chi6-1.relay.mail.uu.net ([199.171.54.98]:36361 "EHLO chi6-1.relay.mail.uu.net") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:23:15 -0400 Received: from xedia.com by chi6sosrv11.alter.net with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: madway.xedia.com [198.202.232.199]) id QQhcrp19331; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 18:23:09 GMT Received: from tonga.xedia.com by xedia.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25089; Tue, 17 Aug 99 14:21:39 EDT Received: by tonga.xedia.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA10853; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:23:08 -0400 Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:23:08 -0400 Message-Id: <199908171823.OAA10853@tonga.xedia.com> From: Paul Koning Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: J.Bland@liverpool.ac.uk Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Where is host? References: <994123349%J.Bland@pc084085.melgrove.liv.ac.uk> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 20.3 "Vatican City" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing >>>>> "J" == J Bland writes: > Dear all, The standard distribution doesn't appear to have the > host command and a user on my machine would like this but I can't > find the source on any search engine or in any obvious places like > inetutils etc. > > Anyone know where host is hiding? ftp://ftp.nikhef.nl/pub/network/host.tar.Z paul unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Aug 17 22:01:55 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA12111 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:01:54 +0100 Received: (qmail 8502 invoked from network); 17 Aug 1999 21:01:53 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 17 Aug 1999 21:01:53 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 16:24:42 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:37:16 -0400 Received: from mailhub2.liv.ac.uk ([138.253.100.95]:40975 "EHLO mailhub2.liv.ac.uk") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:41:56 -0400 Received: from inbox.liv.ac.uk ([138.253.100.92]) by mailhub2.liv.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11GoBD-0002Tt-00; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 19:41:51 +0100 Received: from pc084085 (pc084085.melgrove.liv.ac.uk [138.253.84.85]) by inbox.liv.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.4-ajt4b) with SMTP id TAA25305; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 19:41:50 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 19:33:46 +0000 From: "J.Bland" To: pkoning@xedia.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Where is host? Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <199908171823.OAA10853@tonga.xedia.com> X-Organization: Liverpool University. X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40d for RISC OS X-Editor: Zap, using ZapEmail 0.22 (27 Nov 1998) patch-3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.61b Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing > > Dear all, The standard distribution doesn't appear to have the > > host command and a user on my machine would like this but I can't > > find the source on any search engine or in any obvious places like > > inetutils etc. > > > > Anyone know where host is hiding? > > ftp://ftp.nikhef.nl/pub/network/host.tar.Z > > paul > Thanks, but it doesn't want to link the *.o files as it can't find the -lresolv library. Where do I get this? John -- John Bland Webmaster and Ph.D. Research Student, M.Phys (Hons) Grad.Inst.P Condensed Matter Physics Department, J.Bland@liv.ac.uk The University of Liverpool http://www.sliced.uk.eu.org/~shrike http://www.liv.ac.uk/~olmsg01/physics/ "We're young, rich and full of sugar! What do we do now?" - Simpsons unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Aug 17 22:06:55 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA12301 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:06:55 +0100 Received: (qmail 9203 invoked from network); 17 Aug 1999 21:06:54 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 17 Aug 1999 21:06:54 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 16:32:38 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:51:50 -0400 Received: from wodc7-1.relay.mail.uu.net ([199.171.54.114]:41528 "EHLO wodc7-1.relay.mail.uu.net") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:05:17 -0400 Received: from xedia.com by wodc7mr0.ffx.ops.us.uu.net with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: madway.xedia.com [198.202.232.199]) id QQhcrs20730; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 19:05:07 GMT Received: from tonga.xedia.com by xedia.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25820; Tue, 17 Aug 99 15:03:37 EDT Received: by tonga.xedia.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA10936; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:05:06 -0400 Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:05:06 -0400 Message-Id: <199908171905.PAA10936@tonga.xedia.com> From: Paul Koning Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: J.Bland@liverpool.ac.uk Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Where is host? References: <199908171823.OAA10853@tonga.xedia.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 20.3 "Vatican City" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing >>>>> "J" == J Bland writes: >> > Dear all, The standard distribution doesn't appear to have the > >> host command and a user on my machine would like this but I can't >> > find the source on any search engine or in any obvious places >> like > inetutils etc. > > Anyone know where host is hiding? >> >> ftp://ftp.nikhef.nl/pub/network/host.tar.Z >> >> paul >> J> Thanks, but it doesn't want to link the *.o files as it can't find J> the -lresolv library. Where do I get this? I have one in /lib and another in /usr/lib, not sure why. rpm says the former is from glibc and the latter from glibc-devel. That's on a RedHat 5.2 system. If you have 5.2 or later you should have at least glibc, I'm puzzled that it wouldn't be found... paul unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Aug 17 22:22:56 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA12907 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:22:56 +0100 Received: (qmail 11686 invoked from network); 17 Aug 1999 21:22:54 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 17 Aug 1999 21:22:54 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 16:56:23 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 16:07:02 -0400 Received: from mailhub2.liv.ac.uk ([138.253.100.95]:41368 "EHLO mailhub2.liv.ac.uk") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 15:24:58 -0400 Received: from inbox.liv.ac.uk ([138.253.100.92]) by mailhub2.liv.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11Goqn-0002qF-00 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 20:24:49 +0100 Received: from pc084085 (pc084085.melgrove.liv.ac.uk [138.253.84.85]) by inbox.liv.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.4-ajt4b) with SMTP id UAA28452 for ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 20:24:49 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 20:21:05 +0000 From: "J.Bland" To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Where is host? Message-ID: <258f243349%J.Bland@pc084085.melgrove.liv.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <199908171905.PAA10936@tonga.xedia.com> X-Organization: Liverpool University. X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40d for RISC OS X-Editor: Zap, using ZapEmail 0.22 (27 Nov 1998) patch-3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.61b Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing In message <199908171905.PAA10936@tonga.xedia.com> you wrote: > >>>>> "J" == J Bland writes: > > >> > Dear all, The standard distribution doesn't appear to have the > > >> host command and a user on my machine would like this but I can't > >> > find the source on any search engine or in any obvious places > >> like > inetutils etc. > > Anyone know where host is hiding? > >> > >> ftp://ftp.nikhef.nl/pub/network/host.tar.Z > >> > >> paul > >> > > J> Thanks, but it doesn't want to link the *.o files as it can't find > J> the -lresolv library. Where do I get this? > > I have one in /lib and another in /usr/lib, not sure why. rpm says > the former is from glibc and the latter from glibc-devel. That's on a > RedHat 5.2 system. If you have 5.2 or later you should have at least > glibc, I'm puzzled that it wouldn't be found... > > paul > I have the normal ARMLinux install, 'mangled' RedHat 3.0.3 . John. -- John Bland Webmaster and Ph.D. Research Student, M.Phys (Hons) Grad.Inst.P Condensed Matter Physics Department, J.Bland@liv.ac.uk The University of Liverpool http://www.sliced.uk.eu.org/~shrike http://www.liv.ac.uk/~olmsg01/physics/ "We're young, rich and full of sugar! What do we do now?" - Simpsons unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Aug 18 05:33:55 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id FAA27482 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 05:33:55 +0100 Received: (qmail 11146 invoked from network); 18 Aug 1999 04:33:51 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 18 Aug 1999 04:33:51 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 23:07:18 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:35:50 -0400 Received: from [209.0.233.60] ([209.0.233.60]:53134 "HELO mail6.lax.netzero.net") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id ; Tue, 17 Aug 1999 21:39:20 -0400 Received: (qmail 2124 invoked by uid 0); 18 Aug 1999 01:39:09 -0000 Received: from pppa14-minneapolisb24-5r5050.saturn.bbn.com (HELO netzero.net) (4.12.5.60) by mail6.lax.netzero.net with SMTP; 18 Aug 1999 01:39:09 -0000 Message-ID: <37BA0EC9.B657B3D9@netzero.net> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 20:39:21 -0500 From: Gaixia Zhang X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu CC: Jonathan Foster Kliegman , Mark van Doesburg Subject: co285 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Hi, I am trying to use Mark's tool (ftp://nt4.el.utwente.nl/pub/co285) to download ARM-Linux to my ebsa285. What I did is: 1. Use 2.0.35 to program the ROM of ebsa285 so that it will boot the Linux kernel; 2. Use 2.1.99 to make kernel 2.2.10: apply patch-2.2.10-mvdl Configure the driver as a module Driver type is host Include 21285 targets Select "Enable Loadable module support" Select "Set Version Information on all symobls for modules" Select "Kernel Module Loader" 3. Boot 2.2.10 and make 2.2.9 arm kernel with the pathes 4. cd arm/v2.1 make insmod arm_run.o Now, comes to the erros message: ...... arm_run.o: unresolved symbol --ioremap arm_run.o: unresolved symbol pci_find_device arm_run.o: unresolved symbol printk Do I miss sth? Please Note I can "insmod pcimsg" successfully? Thanks, Gaixia Zhang ________________________________________________________ NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Aug 18 10:55:50 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA30863 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:55:49 +0100 Received: (qmail 5282 invoked from network); 18 Aug 1999 09:55:49 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 18 Aug 1999 09:55:49 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 05:38:07 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 04:40:48 -0400 Received: from studict.student.utwente.nl ([130.89.220.2]:2107 "EHLO studict.student.utwente.nl") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 03:48:12 -0400 Received: from poekie.test (ut125204.inbel.utwente.nl [130.89.125.204]) by studict.student.utwente.nl (8.8.6/MQT) with ESMTP id JAA29340; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:48:10 +0200 (METDST) Received: (from mark@localhost) by poekie.test (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA08422; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:20:32 +0200 Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:20:32 +0200 From: Mark van Doesburg Message-Id: <199908180720.JAA08422@poekie.test> To: gaixiaz@netzero.net, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: co285 Cc: jk8q+@andrew.cmu.edu Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Select "Set Version Information on all symobls for modules" I've never tested it with this option, but I've heard from others that it doesn't work. It is very likely that the problem is caused by enabling this option. Select "Kernel Module Loader" I've also never tried this option. I don't know what will happen. Please try it with these options disabled. If you still can't get it to work I would like to hear about it. Greetings, Mark. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Aug 18 11:13:18 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA31068 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 11:13:18 +0100 Received: (qmail 7846 invoked from network); 18 Aug 1999 10:13:17 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 18 Aug 1999 10:13:17 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 06:02:01 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 05:48:08 -0400 Received: from chaos.wg.com ([198.85.47.240]:36605 "EHLO chaos.wg.com") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 05:02:32 -0400 Received: from wg.com ([198.85.45.243]) by chaos.wg.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id EAA29182; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 04:49:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wg.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.4 (830.2 3-23-1999)) id 852567D1.00314DBA ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 04:58:31 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: GLOBAL From: arnaud.brodier@wwgsolutions.com To: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Message-ID: <852567D1.00314CAF.00@wg.com> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:59:16 +0100 Subject: 2.2.10 / Brutus Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Hi, Adam said he had linux 2.2.10 / Brutus. That's interesting... I've been running 2.2.2 on a brutus-like for a while now, and for fun, I tried to upgrade it to 2.2.10. But ( it's always like that ;-), here is my problem: On the brutus board, there is two serial ports ( called Ser1 and Ser3). On my brutus-like board, there is only the second one, Ser3. When I booted for the first time 2.2.2, I had nothing on my screen, because all the information went through the Ser1 port (that didn't exist !!!). To solve that problem, I modified a line from the "linux/drivers/char/serial_sa1100.c" file (serial_console_setup function) serial_echo_port = (unsigned long *)&Ser1UTCR0 to serial_echo_port = (unsigned long *)&Ser3UTCR0 In the 2.2.10 version this file doesn't exist anymore. So again, all the information of the booting kernel are send to the Ser1. And I don't know how (in which file) to change that. Have you got any idea ? Thank you in advance. Arnaud unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Aug 18 11:21:11 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA31166 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 11:21:11 +0100 Received: (qmail 11353 invoked from network); 18 Aug 1999 10:21:10 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 18 Aug 1999 10:21:10 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 06:11:38 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 06:00:18 -0400 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU ([129.94.242.29]:1831 "HELO note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 05:43:59 -0400 Received: From paulaner With LocalMail ; Wed, 18 Aug 99 19:43:26 +1000 From: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" To: arnaud.brodier@wwgsolutions.com Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:43:08 +1000 (EST) X-Sender: awiggins@paulaner.disy.cse.unsw.EDU.AU cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: 2.2.10 / Brutus In-Reply-To: <852567D1.00314CAF.00@wg.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Mine booted with frame buffer (pengiun and all) and had a console on ser1 as well. Cheers Adam On Wed, 18 Aug 1999 arnaud.brodier@wwgsolutions.com wrote: > > > Hi, > > Adam said he had linux 2.2.10 / Brutus. That's interesting... > I've been running 2.2.2 on a brutus-like for a while now, and for fun, I > tried to upgrade it to 2.2.10. But ( it's always like that ;-), here is my > problem: > On the brutus board, there is two serial ports ( called Ser1 and Ser3). On > my brutus-like board, there is only the second one, Ser3. When I booted for the > first time 2.2.2, I had nothing on my screen, because all the information went > through the Ser1 port (that didn't exist !!!). To solve that problem, I modified > a line from the "linux/drivers/char/serial_sa1100.c" file (serial_console_setup > function) > > serial_echo_port = (unsigned long *)&Ser1UTCR0 > to serial_echo_port = (unsigned long *)&Ser3UTCR0 > > In the 2.2.10 version this file doesn't exist anymore. So again, all the > information of the booting kernel are send to the Ser1. And I don't know how (in > which file) to change that. > > Have you got any idea ? > Thank you in advance. > > Arnaud > > unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Aug 18 15:33:58 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA01421 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 15:33:58 +0100 Received: (qmail 3866 invoked from network); 18 Aug 1999 14:33:56 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 18 Aug 1999 14:33:56 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:32:49 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:31:05 -0400 Received: from Hydro.CAM.ORG ([198.168.100.7]:42209 "EHLO Hydro.CAM.ORG") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:28:44 -0400 Received: from Ocean.CAM.ORG (Ocean.CAM.ORG [198.168.100.5]) by Hydro.CAM.ORG (8.8.8/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA26992; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:27:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 10:27:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre To: arnaud.brodier@wwgsolutions.com cc: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" , linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: 2.2.10 / Brutus In-Reply-To: <852567D1.00314CAF.00@wg.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing On Wed, 18 Aug 1999 arnaud.brodier@wwgsolutions.com wrote: > > > Hi, > > Adam said he had linux 2.2.10 / Brutus. That's interesting... > I've been running 2.2.2 on a brutus-like for a while now, and for fun, I > tried to upgrade it to 2.2.10. But ( it's always like that ;-), here is my > problem: > On the brutus board, there is two serial ports ( called Ser1 and Ser3). On > my brutus-like board, there is only the second one, Ser3. When I booted for the > first time 2.2.2, I had nothing on my screen, because all the information went > through the Ser1 port (that didn't exist !!!). To solve that problem, I modified > a line from the "linux/drivers/char/serial_sa1100.c" file (serial_console_setup > function) > > serial_echo_port = (unsigned long *)&Ser1UTCR0 > to serial_echo_port = (unsigned long *)&Ser3UTCR0 > > In the 2.2.10 version this file doesn't exist anymore. So again, all the > information of the booting kernel are send to the Ser1. And I don't know how (in > which file) to change that. You should look in linux/drivers/char/serial_sa1100.c starting from line 2650. This is for console messages. Also if you want to reverse ttyS0 and ttyS1 devices, look from line 160. Nicolas Pitre, B. ing. nico@cam.org unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Aug 18 17:33:48 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA03030 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:33:48 +0100 Received: (qmail 22220 invoked from network); 18 Aug 1999 16:33:46 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 18 Aug 1999 16:33:46 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:33:20 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:33:04 -0400 Received: from [209.0.233.37] ([209.0.233.37]:42831 "HELO mail2.lax.netzero.net") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:32:40 -0400 Received: (qmail 20196 invoked by uid 0); 18 Aug 1999 16:32:22 -0000 Received: from pppa18-minneapolisb13-2r529.saturn.bbn.com (HELO netzero.net) (4.11.247.128) by mail2.lax.netzero.net with SMTP; 18 Aug 1999 16:32:22 -0000 Message-ID: <37BAE02B.4ECAD80D@netzero.net> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 11:32:43 -0500 From: Gaixia Zhang X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark van Doesburg , Jonathan Foster Kliegman , linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: co285 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Hi, Thanks for your quick response, When I Deselect "Set Version Information on all symobls for modules" Select or Deselect "Kernel Module Loader" I got the following error message: Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00003000 Current->tss.cr3 = 003e9000, %cr3 = 003e9000 *pde = 00000 ...... Segmentation fault Thanks again, Gaixia Zhang ________________________________________________________ NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Aug 18 17:44:45 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA03138 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:44:44 +0100 Received: (qmail 23705 invoked from network); 18 Aug 1999 16:44:42 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 18 Aug 1999 16:44:42 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:44:12 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:43:37 -0400 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU ([129.94.242.29]:2836 "HELO note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:42:23 -0400 Received: From paulaner With LocalMail ; Thu, 19 Aug 99 02:41:54 +1000 From: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 02:41:48 +1000 (EST) X-Sender: awiggins@paulaner.disy.cse.unsw.EDU.AU Subject: Linking Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Why can the linker not deal with function calls more then a 26 bit address offset from teh PC? Isn't this what long jump is for? Am I missing something here? Any help appreciated. Cheers Adam unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Aug 18 18:23:12 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA03578 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 18:23:11 +0100 Received: (qmail 29593 invoked from network); 18 Aug 1999 17:23:09 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 18 Aug 1999 17:23:09 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 13:22:24 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 13:22:17 -0400 Received: from studict.student.utwente.nl ([130.89.220.2]:2226 "EHLO studict.student.utwente.nl") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 13:21:54 -0400 Received: from poekie.test (ut125204.inbel.utwente.nl [130.89.125.204]) by studict.student.utwente.nl (8.8.6/MQT) with ESMTP id TAA04204; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:21:48 +0200 (METDST) Received: (from mark@localhost) by poekie.test (8.9.1/8.9.1) id TAA01979; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:00:39 +0200 Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:00:39 +0200 From: Mark van Doesburg Message-Id: <199908181700.TAA01979@poekie.test> To: gaixiaz@netzero.net, jk8q+@andrew.cmu.edu, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: co285 Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing When I Deselect "Set Version Information on all symobls for modules" Select or Deselect "Kernel Module Loader" I got the following error message: Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00003000 Current->tss.cr3 = 003e9000, %cr3 = 003e9000 *pde = 00000 ...... Segmentation fault Weird. Can you send me the output of /proc/pci ? Greetings, Mark. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Aug 18 18:35:00 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA03728 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 18:35:00 +0100 Received: (qmail 31322 invoked from network); 18 Aug 1999 17:34:59 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 18 Aug 1999 17:34:59 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 13:34:21 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 13:34:12 -0400 Received: from [216.46.81.227] ([216.46.81.227]:45422 "EHLO ns.vikingtv.com") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 13:29:00 -0400 Received: from home.se (ip-216-46-79-13.cust.terabit.net [216.46.79.13]) by ns.vikingtv.com (8.9.1b+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA18147 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 13:22:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37BAECFB.8FCB00E1@home.se> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 13:27:23 -0400 From: thomas olausson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.5-15 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: -> ARM image format Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing I'm trying to make my linux kernels into ARM image format (AIF). How do I do that? Regards, Thomas unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Aug 18 19:18:59 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA04112 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:18:59 +0100 Received: (qmail 2551 invoked from network); 18 Aug 1999 18:17:27 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 18 Aug 1999 18:17:27 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 14:11:56 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 14:11:42 -0400 Received: from PO7.ANDREW.CMU.EDU ([128.2.10.107]:35228 "EHLO po7.andrew.cmu.edu") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 14:10:47 -0400 Received: (from postman@localhost) by po7.andrew.cmu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA07930; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 13:52:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: via switchmail; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 13:52:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pcs13.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 13:51:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pcs13.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 13:51:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mms.4.60.Jun.27.1996.03.02.53.sun4.51.EzMail.2.0.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.pcs13.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4m.54 via MS.5.6.pcs13.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4_51; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 13:51:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 13:51:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Jonathan Foster Kliegman To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, Gaixia Zhang Subject: Re: co285 Cc: Mark van Doesburg In-Reply-To: <37BA0EC9.B657B3D9@netzero.net> References: <37BA0EC9.B657B3D9@netzero.net> Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing I hate to state the obvious, but you may want to double check that you're building all your modules with /usr/src/linux pointing to the write kernel build tree. The makefile uses the standard paths so if /usr/src/linux is pointing to an older kernel version you'll have trouble. In fact, for our build here we did all of our builds under 2.2.10 and that worked fine. This way we only had one kernel version to worry about and don't need to hop around between different trees. Just a warning: While we got arm_run.o to run under 2.2.10, we've only implemented the pcimsg patch with the 2.2.7 (and 2.2.9 I believe trees). -Jon Excerpts from linux-arm: 17-Aug-99 co285 by Gaixia Zhang@netzero.net > I am trying to use Mark's tool (ftp://nt4.el.utwente.nl/pub/co285) > to download ARM-Linux to my ebsa285. What I did is: > > 1. Use 2.0.35 to program the ROM of ebsa285 so that it will boot > the Linux kernel; > > 2. Use 2.1.99 to make kernel 2.2.10: > apply patch-2.2.10-mvdl > Configure the driver as a module > Driver type is host > Include 21285 targets > Select "Enable Loadable module support" > Select "Set Version Information on all symobls for modules" > Select "Kernel Module Loader" > > 3. Boot 2.2.10 and make 2.2.9 arm kernel with the pathes > > 4. cd arm/v2.1 > make > insmod arm_run.o > > Now, comes to the erros message: > ...... > arm_run.o: unresolved symbol --ioremap > arm_run.o: unresolved symbol pci_find_device > arm_run.o: unresolved symbol printk > > > Do I miss sth? Please Note I can "insmod pcimsg" successfully? > > Thanks, > Gaixia Zhang > > > ________________________________________________________ > NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? > Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at > http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Aug 18 19:36:04 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA04264 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:36:04 +0100 Received: (qmail 6791 invoked from network); 18 Aug 1999 18:36:02 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 18 Aug 1999 18:36:02 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 14:35:31 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 14:35:13 -0400 Received: from [209.0.233.60] ([209.0.233.60]:57574 "HELO mail6.lax.netzero.net") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 14:34:58 -0400 Received: (qmail 23174 invoked by uid 0); 18 Aug 1999 18:34:40 -0000 Received: from pppa3-minneapolisb12-1r529.saturn.bbn.com (HELO netzero.net) (4.11.247.185) by mail6.lax.netzero.net with SMTP; 18 Aug 1999 18:34:40 -0000 Message-ID: <37BAFCD6.B7197EEB@netzero.net> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 13:35:02 -0500 From: Gaixia Zhang X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark van Doesburg , Jonathan Foster Kliegman , linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: co285 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Hi, /proc/pci is attatched, Thanks, Gaixia Zhang PCI devices found: Bus 0, device 0, function 0: Host bridge: Intel 440BX - 82443BX Host (rev 3). Medium devsel. Master Capable. Latency=64. Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe0000000 [0xe0000008]. Bus 0, device 1, function 0: PCI bridge: Intel 440BX - 82443BX AGP (rev 3). Medium devsel. Master Capable. Latency=64. Min Gnt=136. Bus 0, device 7, function 0: ISA bridge: Intel 82371AB PIIX4 ISA (rev 2). Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. Master Capable. No bursts. Bus 0, device 7, function 1: IDE interface: Intel 82371AB PIIX4 IDE (rev 1). Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. Master Capable. Latency=64. I/O at 0xf000 [0xf001]. Bus 0, device 7, function 2: USB Controller: Intel 82371AB PIIX4 USB (rev 1). Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. IRQ 10. Master Capable. Latency=64. I/O at 0xe000 [0xe001]. Bus 0, device 7, function 3: Bridge: Intel 82371AB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 2). Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. Bus 0, device 15, function 0: Ethernet controller: 3Com 3C905B 100bTX (rev 48). Medium devsel. IRQ 9. Master Capable. Latency=64. Min Gnt=10.Max Lat=10. I/O at 0xe400 [0xe401]. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe8a00000 [0xe8a00000]. Bus 0, device 17, function 0: Co-processor: DEC DC21285 Footbridge (rev 4). Medium devsel. Fast back-to-back capable. IRQ 5. Master Capable. Latency=64. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe8a01000 [0xe8a01000]. I/O at 0xe800 [0xe801]. Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe8800000 [0xe8800008]. Bus 1, device 0, function 0: VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems Unknown device (rev 11). Vendor id=1039. Device id=6326. Medium devsel. IRQ 11. Master Capable. Latency=64. Min Gnt=2. Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe8000000 [0xe8000008]. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe5000000 [0xe5000000]. I/O at 0xd000 [0xd001]. ________________________________________________________ NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Aug 19 01:15:54 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id BAA08154 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 01:15:53 +0100 Received: (qmail 7923 invoked from network); 19 Aug 1999 00:15:53 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 19 Aug 1999 00:15:53 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 20:15:21 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 20:15:03 -0400 Received: from deepwell.com ([209.63.174.12]:4585 "HELO kerouac.deepwell.com") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 20:14:54 -0400 Received: (qmail 14626 invoked from network); 19 Aug 1999 00:58:15 -0000 Received: from proxy.dcomm.net (HELO terry) (209.63.175.10) by deepwell.com with SMTP; 19 Aug 1999 00:58:15 -0000 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990818170712.034b08e0@mail1.dcomm.net> X-Sender: terrye@mail1.dcomm.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:14:23 -0700 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu From: Terry Ewing Subject: EBSA285 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Are these still being sold? What's the price range on them? EBSA285: This is an evaluation board for the 21285 which comes as a PCI card. The PCI card can be configured to be a host or an add-in card. In host mode, it can be plugged into a stand-alone backplane, and PCI a system built up. In add-in mode, it can be plugged into a PCI slot in a standard PC. - Terry Ewing Deepwell Internet Services unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Aug 19 01:31:59 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id BAA08302 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 01:31:59 +0100 Received: (qmail 9718 invoked from network); 19 Aug 1999 00:31:58 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 19 Aug 1999 00:31:58 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 20:31:27 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 20:31:18 -0400 Received: from PO9.ANDREW.CMU.EDU ([128.2.10.109]:38397 "EHLO po9.andrew.cmu.edu") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 20:31:07 -0400 Received: (from postman@localhost) by po9.andrew.cmu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA10681; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 20:31:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: via switchmail; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 20:31:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix11.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 20:29:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix11.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 20:29:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mms.4.60.Jun.27.1996.03.02.53.sun4.51.EzMail.2.0.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.unix11.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4m.54 via MS.5.6.unix11.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4_51; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 20:29:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4riozZW00UwD0QfiA0@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 20:29:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Jonathan Foster Kliegman To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, Terry Ewing Subject: Re: EBSA285 In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19990818170712.034b08e0@mail1.dcomm.net> References: <4.2.0.58.19990818170712.034b08e0@mail1.dcomm.net> Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Excerpts from linux-arm: 18-Aug-99 EBSA285 by Terry Ewing@deepwell.com > Are these still being sold? What's the price range on them? > > EBSA285: This is an evaluation board for the 21285 which comes as a PCI > card. The PCI card can be configured to be a host or an add-in card. In > host mode, it can be plugged into a stand-alone backplane, and PCI a system > built up. In add-in mode, it can be plugged into a PCI slot in a standard PC. > They are still being sold, though the last time we ordered one (early in the summer) there was a big backlog. Look at Intels main distributor. The part number you want is 21A85-01. The price was $695 a while ago but has gone up a bit since then although it differs between distributors. Unfortunately, I don't have the distributors numbers on me (you can get them from Intel's web page) but we managed to get two recently from either AvNet or Newark Electronics. I think we got one from each actually.. -Jon unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Aug 19 12:41:33 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA15586 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 12:41:33 +0100 Received: (qmail 20881 invoked from network); 19 Aug 1999 11:38:12 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 19 Aug 1999 11:38:12 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 07:37:42 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 07:37:35 -0400 Received: from smtp4.mindspring.com ([207.69.200.64]:5794 "EHLO smtp4.mindspring.com") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 07:36:58 -0400 Received: from hh2142126 (pool-209-138-6-61.ipls.grid.net [209.138.6.61]) by smtp4.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA05655; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 07:36:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990819063023.00a315d0@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: dfeustel@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 06:36:07 -0500 To: Jonathan Foster Kliegman , linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, Terry Ewing From: David Feustel Subject: Re: EBSA285 In-Reply-To: <4riozZW00UwD0QfiA0@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <4.2.0.58.19990818170712.034b08e0@mail1.dcomm.net> <4.2.0.58.19990818170712.034b08e0@mail1.dcomm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing You can buy a complete PC motherboard with Strongarm chip substituted for x86 cpu. The motherboard was designed by Chaltech technology http://www.chaltech.com and distributed by Simtec Electronics http://www.simtec.demon.co.uk. The motherboard can support up to 128Meg of ram and has 4 or so PCI slots. It costs less than the ESBA-285. At 08:29 PM 08/18/1999 -0400, Jonathan Foster Kliegman wrote: >Excerpts from linux-arm: 18-Aug-99 EBSA285 by Terry Ewing@deepwell.com >> Are these still being sold? What's the price range on them? >> >> EBSA285: This is an evaluation board for the 21285 which comes as a PCI >> card. The PCI card can be configured to be a host or an add-in card. In >> host mode, it can be plugged into a stand-alone backplane, and PCI a system >> built up. In add-in mode, it can be plugged into a PCI slot in a standard PC. >> > >They are still being sold, though the last time we ordered one (early in >the summer) there was a big backlog. Look at Intels main distributor. >The part number you want is 21A85-01. The price was $695 a while ago >but has gone up a bit since then although it differs between >distributors. Unfortunately, I don't have the distributors numbers on >me (you can get them from Intel's web page) but we managed to get two >recently from either AvNet or Newark Electronics. I think we got one >from each actually.. > >-Jon >unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu David Feustel Fort Wayne, Indiana 219-483-1857 dfeustel@mindspring.com http://www.mindspring.com/~dfeustel PDF Attachments Are Always Virus-free unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Aug 19 12:50:57 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA15704 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 12:50:56 +0100 Received: (qmail 22555 invoked from network); 19 Aug 1999 11:50:55 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 19 Aug 1999 11:50:55 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 07:50:17 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 07:49:47 -0400 Received: from PO6.ANDREW.CMU.EDU ([128.2.10.106]:33065 "EHLO po6.andrew.cmu.edu") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 07:49:34 -0400 Received: (from postman@localhost) by po6.andrew.cmu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA00869; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 07:49:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: via switchmail; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 07:49:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pcs1.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 07:48:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pcs1.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 07:48:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mms.4.60.Jun.27.1996.03.03.06.pmax.ul4.EzMail.2.0.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.pcs1.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax.ul4 via MS.5.6.pcs1.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax_ul4; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 07:48:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 07:48:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Jonathan Foster Kliegman To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, Terry Ewing , David Feustel Subject: Re: EBSA285 In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990819063023.00a315d0@pop.mindspring.com> References: <4.2.0.58.19990818170712.034b08e0@mail1.dcomm.net> <4.2.0.58.19990818170712.034b08e0@mail1.dcomm.net> <4.1.19990819063023.00a315d0@pop.mindspring.com> Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Excerpts from linux-arm: 19-Aug-99 Re: EBSA285 by David Feustel@mindspring > You can buy a complete PC motherboard with Strongarm chip substituted > for x86 cpu. The motherboard was designed by Chaltech technology > http://www.chaltech.com and distributed by Simtec Electronics > http://www.simtec.demon.co.uk. The motherboard can support up to > 128Meg of ram and has 4 or so PCI slots. It costs less than the ESBA-285. Can it function as a PCI add in card though? That was the reason we bought the EBSA-285's... -Jon unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Aug 19 18:41:00 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA20848 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 18:41:00 +0100 Received: (qmail 14889 invoked from network); 19 Aug 1999 17:40:25 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 19 Aug 1999 17:40:25 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:36:43 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:36:07 -0400 Received: from smaug.netwave.de ([194.162.128.45]:25278 "EHLO mail.netwave.de") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:35:45 -0400 Received: from otaku.nerdnet.de (postfix@as-line7.hb.netwave.de [195.185.99.134]) by mail.netwave.de (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA02018 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 19:35:42 +0200 Received: by otaku.nerdnet.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 59F6A2729A; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 19:35:33 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 19:35:32 +0200 From: Jan-Uwe Finck To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: linux-arm cross-compiling toolchain report... (troubles) Message-ID: <19990819193532.A12911@mail.netwave.de> Reply-To: Jan-Uwe.Finck@bigfoot.de Mail-Followup-To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i In-Reply-To: ; from Philip Blundell on Fri, Aug 13, 1999 at 09:22:38AM +0100 Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing On Fri, Aug 13, 1999 at 09:22:38AM +0100, Philip Blundell wrote: > >Install glibc-2.1.tar.gz with glibc-linuxthread-2.1.tar.gz and > >glib-crypt-2.0.111.tar.gz > >./configure arm-linux --build=i686-pc-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr/arm-linux > >--enable-add-ons > > Now comes to "gcc 2.95, bad" > > Get glibc 2.1.2pre2 and this should be fixed. Ehhmm...where do I get this ? Couldn't find it at gnu.org.. And does it work with glibc-linuxthread-2.1.tar.gz and glib-crypt-2.1.tar.gz or do I have to get other versions of those , too ? Thanks, -- CU Jan-Uwe ------------------------------------------------- PGP-Public-Key on Request. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Aug 19 18:42:25 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA20874 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 18:42:25 +0100 Received: (qmail 15683 invoked from network); 19 Aug 1999 17:42:24 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 19 Aug 1999 17:42:23 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:41:51 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:41:45 -0400 Received: from nexus.carleton.ca ([134.117.76.10]:4408 "EHLO nexus.carleton.ca") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:41:21 -0400 Received: from localhost (stewart@localhost) by nexus.carleton.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA17767; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:41:08 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:41:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Rod Stewart To: Jan-Uwe.Finck@bigfoot.de cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: linux-arm cross-compiling toolchain report... (troubles) In-Reply-To: <19990819193532.A12911@mail.netwave.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing On Thu, 19 Aug 1999, Jan-Uwe Finck wrote: > On Fri, Aug 13, 1999 at 09:22:38AM +0100, Philip Blundell wrote: > > > > Get glibc 2.1.2pre2 and this should be fixed. > > Ehhmm...where do I get this ? Couldn't find it at gnu.org.. Try sourceware.cygnus.com (also take a look at: http://sourceware.cygnus.com/glibc). > And does it work with glibc-linuxthread-2.1.tar.gz and > glib-crypt-2.1.tar.gz or do I have to get other versions of those , too Yes you can use glibc-crypt-2.1.tar.gz. There may be an update to linuxthreads, I do not recall... Check the web page (mailling archives maybe). -Rms unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Aug 20 01:28:55 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id BAA25716 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 01:28:54 +0100 Received: (qmail 15069 invoked from network); 20 Aug 1999 00:28:53 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 20 Aug 1999 00:28:53 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 20:28:23 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 20:28:08 -0400 Received: from lister.acm.wwu.edu ([140.160.139.251]:1133 "EHLO lister.acm.wwu.edu") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 20:25:32 -0400 Received: from localhost (dconti@localhost) by lister.acm.wwu.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA08946 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 17:25:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dconti@lister.acm.wwu.edu) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 17:25:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Conti To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: 710/720 differences Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Hello everyone, I am working on porting linux to an arm720 chip that i am currently working with, and i've run into a bit of a hitch. I can build kernel images that work with (relatively) minimal problems (such as paging issues) on an arm710 chip I am working with, but i'm having difficulty with the 720 version. I added a mask in the ProcTypes list in head-armv.S for the 720 processor id, and created a new set of processor functions (arm720_processor_functions) to properly flush the TLB and the cache, since the coprocessor registers are slightly different on the 720, but i'm not really sure what else needs to be modified. Most of my kernel appears to be working, I get up to a point where the kernel attempts to open /dev/console (in init/main.c), at which point it falls flat on its face with a file not found. My setup is a bit wierd, the 720 i am working with is completely diskless, so the root file system is in a ramdisk, but i know this works (or, at least, it works on the 710 system i have). The root file system properly mounts. I have traced execution all over trying to track down exactly what goes on, but i can't exactly determine what difference between the two chips would allow one kernel/ramdisk image to work fully on the 710 but cause it to fail so late in the game on the 720. So right now i'm trying to gather information of any sort, if anyone has experience with 710 and 720 chips and provide any information or resources on casual or glaring distinctions between the two, i'd be really appreciative. I'm sorry if i'm a little vague on detail, i'm hesitant to release information regarding the specifics of what i'm working with. Any help would be greatly appreciated...Thanks in advance, -Dan unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Aug 20 04:54:19 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id EAA27776 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 04:54:19 +0100 Received: (qmail 9104 invoked from network); 20 Aug 1999 03:54:19 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 20 Aug 1999 03:54:19 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 23:53:47 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 23:53:28 -0400 Received: from calliope1.fm.intel.com ([132.233.247.10]:2639 "EHLO calliope1.fm.intel.com") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 23:53:13 -0400 Received: from fmsmsx17.intel.com (fmsmsx17.fm.intel.com [132.233.58.209]) by calliope1.fm.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.6 1998/11/24 22:10:56 iwep Exp iwep $) with ESMTP id UAA20037 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 20:52:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fmsmsx17.fm.intel.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 19 Aug 1999 20:52:56 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Chagas, Jason" To: "'linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu'" Subject: pgd_offset Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 20:52:53 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Need help understanding some code... The 'pgd_offset' function defined in "./include/asm-arm/proc-armv/pgtable.h" is supposed to calculate the offset into the Translation Table with PGDIR_SHIFT defined as "20" in ./include/asm-arm/proc-armv/pgtable.h" (see attached code snippet). It is my understanding the entry into the TB is calculated by shifting the address right by "18" instead. It is a mystery to me how Linux kernel still works. Am I missing something? Thanks, Jason -------------- /* to find an entry in a page-table-directory */ extern __inline__ pgd_t * pgd_offset(struct mm_struct * mm, unsigned long address) { return mm->pgd + (address >> PGDIR_SHIFT); } unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Aug 20 05:20:10 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id FAA28116 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 05:20:10 +0100 Received: (qmail 10697 invoked from network); 20 Aug 1999 04:20:09 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 20 Aug 1999 04:20:09 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 00:19:39 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 00:19:20 -0400 Received: from cwcsun41.cwc.nus.edu.sg ([137.132.163.102]:49217 "EHLO cwcsun41.cwc.nus.edu.sg") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 00:19:06 -0400 Received: from konggf.nus.edu.sg ([137.132.163.221]) by cwcsun41.cwc.nus.edu.sg (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA16940; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 12:18:28 +0800 (SGT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990818195047.00c2ef00@leonis.nus.edu.sg> X-Sender: cwckgf@leonis.nus.edu.sg X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:50:48 +0900 To: "Chagas, Jason" , "'linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu'" From: Kong Gang Feng Subject: Re: pgd_offset Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Hi, I think the entry of 'pgd' is in word (4bytes) instead of byte. So PGDIR_SHIFT=18+2=20. Kong G.F. At 08:52 PM 8/19/99 -0700, Chagas, Jason wrote: >Need help understanding some code... > >The 'pgd_offset' function defined in >"./include/asm-arm/proc-armv/pgtable.h" is supposed to calculate the offset >into the Translation Table with PGDIR_SHIFT defined as "20" in >./include/asm-arm/proc-armv/pgtable.h" (see attached code snippet). It is my >understanding the entry into the TB is calculated by shifting the address >right by "18" instead. It is a mystery to me how Linux kernel still works. >Am I missing something? > >Thanks, > >Jason > >-------------- >/* to find an entry in a page-table-directory */ >extern __inline__ pgd_t * pgd_offset(struct mm_struct * mm, unsigned long >address) >{ > return mm->pgd + (address >> PGDIR_SHIFT); >} > >unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu > > unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Aug 20 13:56:31 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA00681 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:56:31 +0100 Received: (qmail 15917 invoked from network); 20 Aug 1999 12:56:30 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 20 Aug 1999 12:56:30 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 08:39:35 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 08:27:25 -0400 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU ([129.94.242.29]:3445 "HELO note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 08:22:59 -0400 Received: From paulaner With LocalMail ; Fri, 20 Aug 99 22:22:19 +1000 From: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" To: Dan Conti Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 22:22:10 +1000 (EST) X-Sender: awiggins@paulaner.disy.cse.unsw.EDU.AU cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: 710/720 differences In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing I think the only real difference between the MMU's of the 710 and the 720 is that teh 720 has some of the features of the SA-1100. That is the ability to relocate teh exception vector to 0xFFFF0000 and the PID (Process ID) register to relocated the first 32MB of the virrtual address space to another 32MB region. These are listed as so called WinCE enhancements and only work when the WinCE pin is active on the chip. Refere to the ARM manuals on the chips for more detial. Cheers Adam On Thu, 19 Aug 1999, Dan Conti wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I am working on porting linux to an arm720 chip that i am currently > working with, and i've run into a bit of a hitch. I can build kernel > images that work with (relatively) minimal problems (such as paging > issues) on an arm710 chip I am working with, but i'm having difficulty > with the 720 version. I added a mask in the ProcTypes list in head-armv.S > for the 720 processor id, and created a new set of processor functions > (arm720_processor_functions) to properly flush the TLB and the cache, > since the coprocessor registers are slightly different on the 720, but i'm > not really sure what else needs to be modified. Most of my kernel appears > to be working, I get up to a point where the kernel attempts to open > /dev/console (in init/main.c), at which point it falls flat on its face > with a file not found. My setup is a bit wierd, the 720 i am working with > is completely diskless, so the root file system is in a ramdisk, but i > know this works (or, at least, it works on the 710 system i have). The > root file system properly mounts. > > I have traced execution all over trying to track down exactly what goes > on, but i can't exactly determine what difference between the two chips > would allow one kernel/ramdisk image to work fully on the 710 but cause it > to fail so late in the game on the 720. So right now i'm trying to gather > information of any sort, if anyone has experience with 710 and 720 chips > and provide any information or resources on casual or glaring distinctions > between the two, i'd be really appreciative. I'm sorry if i'm a little > vague on detail, i'm hesitant to release information regarding the > specifics of what i'm working with. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated...Thanks in advance, > -Dan > > unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu > unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Aug 20 16:04:34 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA02318 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 16:04:34 +0100 Received: (qmail 8879 invoked from network); 20 Aug 1999 15:04:32 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 20 Aug 1999 15:04:32 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 11:04:10 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 11:03:51 -0400 Received: from thalia.fm.intel.com ([132.233.247.11]:3775 "EHLO thalia.fm.intel.com") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 11:03:37 -0400 Received: from fmsmsx18.intel.com (fmsmsx18.fm.intel.com [132.233.233.232]) by thalia.fm.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.6 1998/11/24 22:10:56 iwep Exp iwep $) with ESMTP id LAA23398 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 11:04:37 GMT Received: by fmsmsx18.fm.intel.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 08:03:35 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Chagas, Jason" To: "'linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu'" Subject: RE: pgd_offset Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 08:03:33 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Kong, That's right, 'pgd' is a pointer to the translation table (TB) and 'address' contains the virtual address being mapped. Shifting the virtual address [right] by 18 (the most significant 11 bits - 31-20) yield the address of first-level descriptor in the translation table with the first two least significant bits (1-0) set to zero. Oddly enough, the function below is shifts by 20. I just wondering if anyone could explain it to me... Jason -----Original Message----- From: Kong Gang Feng [mailto:cwckgf@leonis.nus.edu.sg] Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 1999 6:51 AM To: Chagas, Jason; 'linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu' Subject: Re: pgd_offset Hi, I think the entry of 'pgd' is in word (4bytes) instead of byte. So PGDIR_SHIFT=18+2=20. Kong G.F. At 08:52 PM 8/19/99 -0700, Chagas, Jason wrote: >Need help understanding some code... > >The 'pgd_offset' function defined in >"./include/asm-arm/proc-armv/pgtable.h" is supposed to calculate the offset >into the Translation Table with PGDIR_SHIFT defined as "20" in >./include/asm-arm/proc-armv/pgtable.h" (see attached code snippet). It is my >understanding the entry into the TB is calculated by shifting the address >right by "18" instead. It is a mystery to me how Linux kernel still works. >Am I missing something? > >Thanks, > >Jason > >-------------- >/* to find an entry in a page-table-directory */ >extern __inline__ pgd_t * pgd_offset(struct mm_struct * mm, unsigned long >address) >{ > return mm->pgd + (address >> PGDIR_SHIFT); >} > >unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu > > unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Aug 20 19:28:14 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA11740 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 19:28:14 +0100 Received: (qmail 16020 invoked from network); 20 Aug 1999 18:28:12 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 20 Aug 1999 18:28:12 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 14:05:03 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:34:44 -0400 Received: from thalia.fm.intel.com ([132.233.247.11]:1063 "EHLO thalia.fm.intel.com") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:11:41 -0400 Received: from fmsmsx29.FM.INTEL.COM (fmsmsx29.fm.intel.com [132.233.42.29]) by thalia.fm.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.6 1998/11/24 22:10:56 iwep Exp iwep $) with ESMTP id NAA25963; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:12:30 GMT Received: by fmsmsx29.fm.intel.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 10:11:28 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Chagas, Jason" To: "'Dr. David Gilbert'" Cc: "'linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu'" Subject: RE: pgd_offset Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 10:11:25 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing That makes sense... Thanks, Jason -----Original Message----- From: Dr. David Gilbert [mailto:gilbertd@treblig.org] Sent: Friday, August 20, 1999 11:40 AM To: Chagas, Jason Subject: RE: pgd_offset On Fri, 20 Aug 1999, Chagas, Jason wrote: > Kong, > > That's right, 'pgd' is a pointer to the translation table (TB) and 'address' > contains the virtual address being mapped. Shifting the virtual address > [right] by 18 (the most significant 11 bits - 31-20) yield the address of > first-level descriptor in the translation table with the first two least > significant bits (1-0) set to zero. Oddly enough, the function below is > shifts by 20. I just wondering if anyone could explain it to me... I wonder if it is something like the fact that this is shifting bits 1-0 off the bottom and then I wonder if the pointer its modifying is actually a word pointer and thus each value causes a 4 byte offset in the language - the effect being to do the clear of bits 1-0 for you. Dave /------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Dr. David Alan Gilbert | Work: dg@px.uk.com (+44-161-286-2000) | | -------- G7FHJ --------|---------------------------------------- | | Home: dave@treblig.org http://www.treblig.clara.net | \------------------------------------------------------------------/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Aug 20 23:27:17 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA19569 for ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 23:27:17 +0100 Received: (qmail 1297 invoked from network); 20 Aug 1999 22:27:16 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 20 Aug 1999 22:27:16 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 18:23:07 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 18:21:22 -0400 Received: from avola.teknema.com ([204.147.180.85]:4694 "EHLO avola.teknema.com") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 18:19:08 -0400 Received: (from jamie@localhost) by avola.teknema.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id PAA29571; Fri, 20 Aug 1999 15:24:31 -0700 Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 15:24:31 -0700 Message-Id: <199908202224.PAA29571@avola.teknema.com> X-Authentication-Warning: avola.teknema.com: jamie set sender to jamie@avola.teknema.com using -f From: James Smith To: thomas.olausson@home.se CC: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: binary into AIF Reply-to: jamie@teknema.com Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 18:14:40 -0400 > From: thomas olausson > The problem I have with the SA-1100 evaluation board > is that the boot loader expects gzipped AIF kernels. > > Gzip is easy, but how do I make binaries into AIF? Well... Create a data section that looks like an AIF header and ensure that your linker script places that section at the start of the image. You can then get your linker to output as a "raw" binary. e.g. Assemble this so that you have an object with a section called "AIF_HDR": /*> aifhdr.S <*/ /*---------------------------------------------------------------------------*/ /* ARM executable image header support * * $Revision: 1.7 $ * $Author: jamie $ * $Date: 1999/05/29 10:28:36 $ * */ /*---------------------------------------------------------------------------*/ .equ OS_Exit,0x11 .section AIF_HDR /* readonly code */ .globl __start __start: /* The position of these initial fields is fixed by the AIF * format, since external tools (e.g. armsd) expect a * particular format. Also (for some strange reason regardless * of whether the first two instructions have REAL * branches... armsd ignores them and sets the starting PC to * (base + 8). */ NOP /* 0x00 compress_br */ NOP /* 0x04 reloc_br */ BL zinit /* 0x08 zinit_br */ __appstart: BL __main /* 0x0C standard entry point */ /* At the moment our "__main" ignores passed arguments */ SWI OS_Exit /* 0x10 exit SWI in case of return from entry_br */ /* NOTE: GAS cannot cope with generating a relocation between * two external symbols, so we have to have the link script * create dummy symbols of the values we want: */ localrosize: .word __ro_size__ /* 0x14 RO size */ .word __rw_size__ /* 0x18 RW size */ .word 0x00000000 /* 0x1C dbg size */ .word __bss_size__ /* 0x20 BSS size */ .word 0x00000000 /* 0x24 dbgtype (0,1,2 or 3) */ .word __start /* 0x28 Image base */ .word 0x00000000 /* 0x2C workspace (link -rel -w only) */ .word 32 /* 0x30 address mode (26/32) */ .word __rw_base__ /* 0x34 data base (address where image data linked) */ .word 0x00000000 /* 0x38 reserved (used for FAT AIF images) */ .word 0x00000000 /* 0x3C reserved */ NOP /* 0x40 debug initialisation SWI */ /* The above NOP was referenced by ARM Ltd "zinit" calls, and * the offset was explicitly "poked" with a SWI (or BL) to the * run-time debug initialisation code when certain types of debug * images were generated. To stay conforming (for at least the * initial header) to the ARM Ltd specification, we leave * this NOP available at 0x40. * * For the GCC builds we can now do whatever we want in the * remainder of this initial section. */ /* We no longer need to conform to the ARM Ltd AIF header * specification for size. We can add any new descriptor * fields we require here. It also means that we can do * symbolic operations within this section which we couldn't * when using the ARM Ltd linker. */ /*-------------------------------------------------------------------*/ zinit: /* BSS initialisation code: */ #if !defined(ORIG_AIF_CODE) ... whatever you want here ... #else /* ORIG_AIF_CODE (kept for reference and for ZIP loader) */ SUB ip,lr,pc /* base+12+[PSR]-(ZeroInit+12+[PSR]) */ /* = base-ZeroInit */ ADD ip,pc,ip /* base-ZeroInit+ZeroInit+16 = base+16 */ LDMIB ip,{r0,r1,r2,r3}/* various size information */ SUB ip,ip,#16 /* image base */ LDR r2,[ip,#48] /* flags */ TST r2,#256 /* separate data area? */ LDRNE ip,[ip,#52] /* Yes, so get it... */ ADDEQ ip,ip,r0 /* No, so add + RO size */ ADD ip,ip,r1 /* + RW size = base of 0-init area */ MOV r0,#0 CMPS r3,#0 cl00: MOVLE pc,lr /* nothing left to do */ STR r0,[ip],#4 SUBS r3,r3,#4 B cl00 #endif /* ORIG_AIF_CODE */ hdrend: /*---------------------------------------------------------------------------*/ /* NOTE: The ARM Ltd linker would only allow AIF header * replacement if the section was *EXACTLY* 0x80 bytes * long. This is not a requirement for our GCC only build * world. */ /*---------------------------------------------------------------------------*/ /*> EOF aifhdr.S <*/ You can then have something like the following in your linker script: /* Currently we create AIF images. This is because the AIF header is * used to hold special target descriptor flags. Also the current * bootstrap and download code explicitly checks for an AIF style * header. To enable an AIF image to be generated we force our * special AIF header section to be the first in the produced * application (see AIF_HDR below). */ GROUP(-lc) ENTRY(__start) SECTIONS { .text 0x00008000 : { __ro_base__ = .; /* Explicit image header: */ *(AIF_HDR) /* Normal application code: */ *(.text) /* Read-only data: */ *(.rdata) . = ALIGN(0x4); ___CTOR_LIST__ = .; __CTOR_LIST__ = .; LONG (-1); *(.ctors); *(.ctor); LONG (0); ___DTOR_LIST__ = .; __DTOR_LIST__ = . ; LONG (-1); *(.dtors); *(.dtor); LONG (0); *(.fini) . = ALIGN(0x4); __ro_limit__ = .; } /* Initialised data. Logically placed at a higher address, but we use AT to ensure that the image file produced contains the loadable data immediately after the .text section: */ .data 0x60000000 : AT (__ro_limit__) { __rw_base__ = .; __data_start__ = .; *(.rwcode) *(.data) . = ALIGN(0x4); __data_end__ = .; edata = .; } .bss (__data_end__) (NOLOAD) : { __bss_start__ = .; __bss_base__ = .; *(.bss) *(COMMON) . = ALIGN(0x4); __bss_limit__ = .; __bss_end__ = .; } __rw_limit__ = .; __ro_size__ = (__ro_limit__ - __ro_base__); __rw_size__ = (__bss_start__ - __rw_base__); __bss_size__ = (__bss_end__ - __bss_start__); __end__ = .; } You can then link with something like the following (if the above script is in "linkmap.ld", and the AIF header source assembled into the file "aifhdr.o"): ld --strip-all --oformat binary -T linkmap.ld -o aifhdr.o Hope the above helps :-) (NOTE: I have not played with the SA1100 kernel bootstrapping... the above is how I used to use GNU generated images for downloading to an "old ARM-Demon" based board using armsd). GDB was still used for high-level debugging to the Demon based board (since it understands RDP), but having the AIF header allows for "armsd" to be used for low-level (i.e. non-symbolic) debugging). -- Jamie unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Aug 21 11:14:25 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA09154 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 11:14:24 +0100 Received: (qmail 30891 invoked from network); 21 Aug 1999 10:14:23 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 21 Aug 1999 10:14:23 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 06:14:03 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 06:13:44 -0400 Received: from ns1.cableol.net ([194.168.4.220]:3016 "HELO ns1.cableol.net") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 06:13:24 -0400 Received: from [194.168.16.160] by ns1.cableol.net; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/22Feb96-0403PM) id AA01056; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 11:13:42 +0100 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org.uk (linux@raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA14648; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 11:13:28 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org.uk (8.7.4/8.7.3) id LAA00567; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 11:11:44 +0100 Message-Id: <199908211011.LAA00567@raistlin.armlinux.org.uk> Subject: Re: pgd_offset To: jason.chagas@intel.com (Chagas Jason) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 11:11:43 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: from "Chagas, Jason" at Aug 20, 99 08:03:33 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Chagas, Jason writes: > That's right, 'pgd' is a pointer to the translation table (TB) and 'address' > contains the virtual address being mapped. Shifting the virtual address > [right] by 18 (the most significant 11 bits - 31-20) yield the address of > first-level descriptor in the translation table with the first two least > significant bits (1-0) set to zero. Oddly enough, the function below is > shifts by 20. I just wondering if anyone could explain it to me... It is correct. sizeof(mm->pgd) = 4, so adding an integer to the pointer actually does the equivalent of (int)(mm->pgd) + 4*(integer), which will give you your 18 ( (a >> 20) * 4 == (a >> 18) with bottom two bits cleared) _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.linux.org.uk --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Aug 21 22:07:57 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA29186 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 22:07:57 +0100 Received: (qmail 29973 invoked from network); 21 Aug 1999 21:07:56 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 21 Aug 1999 21:07:56 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 17:07:23 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 17:07:14 -0400 Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.39]:1593 "EHLO finch-post-11.mail.demon.net") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 17:06:50 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11IILb-000MH9-0B; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 21:06:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org ident=phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11IILU-00009K-00; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 22:06:36 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) To: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Linking In-Reply-To: Message from Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins of "Thu, 19 Aug 1999 02:41:48 +1000." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 22:06:36 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing > Why can the linker not deal with function calls more then a 26 bit >address offset from teh PC? The B instruction only has a 24-bit displacement field. That stores a number of words which gives you a 26-bit address offset. To do jumps beyond that, the linker would have to bounce the call through a PLT entry. It probably wouldn't be too hard to make this happen automatically for out of range jumps if you wanted (though this should be controlled by a switch). As a matter of passing interest modutils already does something a bit like this so that kernel modules can be quite distant from the main code body. Another possibility would be to extend the compiler and/or assembler to let you declare a particular function call as being "long" and have that generate code that rather than a straightforward branch contained code a bit like this: mov lr, pc ldr pc, =target It would take quite a lot to convince me that the latter was worth including in GCC, though. The linker thing seems conceptually cleaner - there will be a performance hit but I doubt it is measurable. In theory a smart linker could actually perform the second trick too but GNU ld isn't currently up to it. (Why do you want to do this in the first place, by the way?) p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Aug 21 22:27:58 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA29791 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 22:27:58 +0100 Received: (qmail 31445 invoked from network); 21 Aug 1999 21:27:57 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 21 Aug 1999 21:27:57 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 17:27:25 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 17:26:57 -0400 Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.41]:3968 "EHLO finch-post-12.mail.demon.net") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 17:26:51 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11IIf2-000HZU-0C; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 21:26:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org ident=phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11IIev-0000De-00; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 22:26:41 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) To: Dan Conti cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: 710/720 differences In-Reply-To: Message from Dan Conti of "Thu, 19 Aug 1999 17:25:29 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 22:26:41 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing >not really sure what else needs to be modified. Most of my kernel appears >to be working, I get up to a point where the kernel attempts to open >/dev/console (in init/main.c), at which point it falls flat on its face >with a file not found. My setup is a bit wierd, the 720 i am working with Can you post the exact messages you get at bootup? If /dev/console can't be opened did you check that it really does point to a valid console device? I can't think of anything about the 720 that would cause this off the top of my head. Just adding support in the places you did should be enough. It has some features that the 710 lacks but these should be benign if you just ignore them. My suspicion is that your problem lies elsewhere than with the CPU. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Aug 21 23:34:49 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA32220 for ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 23:34:49 +0100 Received: (qmail 9859 invoked from network); 21 Aug 1999 22:34:48 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 21 Aug 1999 22:34:48 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 18:34:28 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 18:34:13 -0400 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU ([129.94.242.29]:2579 "HELO note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 18:33:13 -0400 Received: From paulaner With LocalMail ; Sun, 22 Aug 99 08:32:05 +1000 From: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" To: Philip Blundell Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 08:32:05 +1000 (EST) X-Sender: awiggins@paulaner.disy.cse.unsw.EDU.AU cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Linking In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing On Sat, 21 Aug 1999, Philip Blundell wrote: > > Why can the linker not deal with function calls more then a 26 bit > >address offset from teh PC? > > The B instruction only has a 24-bit displacement field. That stores a number > of words which gives you a 26-bit address offset. To do jumps beyond that, I relise that but isn't this a common thing in RISC chips and linkers/compilers use long jump? > the linker would have to bounce the call through a PLT entry. It probably > wouldn't be too hard to make this happen automatically for out of range > jumps if you wanted (though this should be controlled by a switch). As a > matter of passing interest modutils already does something a bit like this > so that kernel modules can be quite distant from the main code body. > > Another possibility would be to extend the compiler and/or assembler to let > you declare a particular function call as being "long" and have that generate > code that rather than a straightforward branch contained code a bit like this: > > mov lr, pc > ldr pc, =target > > It would take quite a lot to convince me that the latter was worth including > in GCC, though. The linker thing seems conceptually cleaner - there will be > a performance hit but I doubt it is measurable. > > In theory a smart linker could actually perform the second trick too but GNU > ld isn't currently up to it. Ic. > > (Why do you want to do this in the first place, by the way?) > I have initialiseation an initialisation section and a kernel text section (both loadable segments) The initialisation section is mapped one-one at 0xC0100000 (on the SA-1100) and the text section is mapped to 0xFFFF0000. I have debugging calls in the text section that I try to call from the init sectin (putc, printf, dumpPT, etc) but the 26bit branching gets in the way. I could use ASM macro's to make the calls but this seems abit messy, is there a nice solution to this problem. Another solution is to have the functions linked in both sections with different names but again I think this is a bit messy. Cheers Adam > p. > > unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Aug 22 00:01:13 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA00660 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 00:01:13 +0100 Received: (qmail 13828 invoked from network); 21 Aug 1999 23:01:12 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 21 Aug 1999 23:01:12 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 19:00:43 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 19:00:07 -0400 Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.38]:1136 "EHLO finch-post-10.mail.demon.net") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 18:59:38 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11IK6l-000Chw-0A; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 22:59:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org ident=phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11IK6e-0000Q7-00; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 23:59:24 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) To: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Linking In-Reply-To: Message from Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins of "Sun, 22 Aug 1999 08:32:05 +1000." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 23:59:24 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing > I relise that but isn't this a common thing in RISC chips and >linkers/compilers use long jump? What do you mean by "long jump"? >> (Why do you want to do this in the first place, by the way?) >> > I have initialiseation an initialisation section and a kernel text >section (both loadable segments) The initialisation section is mapped >one-one at 0xC0100000 (on the SA-1100) and the text section is mapped to >0xFFFF0000. I have debugging calls in the text section that I try to call >from the init sectin (putc, printf, dumpPT, etc) but the 26bit branching >gets in the way. I could use ASM macro's to make the calls but this seems >abit messy, is there a nice solution to this problem. Another solution is >to have the functions linked in both sections with different names but >again I think this is a bit messy. Well, -fPIC is the obvious solution if you can handle the overhead. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Aug 22 00:29:06 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA01462 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 00:29:06 +0100 Received: (qmail 15357 invoked from network); 21 Aug 1999 23:29:05 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 21 Aug 1999 23:29:05 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 19:28:35 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 19:28:21 -0400 Received: from Hydro.CAM.ORG ([198.168.100.7]:60637 "EHLO Hydro.CAM.ORG") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 19:27:47 -0400 Received: from Ocean.CAM.ORG (Ocean.CAM.ORG [198.168.100.5]) by Hydro.CAM.ORG (8.8.8/8.8.4) with SMTP id TAA29277; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 19:26:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 19:26:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Pitre To: Philip Blundell cc: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" , linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Linking In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing On Sat, 21 Aug 1999, Philip Blundell wrote: > > Why can the linker not deal with function calls more then a 26 bit > >address offset from teh PC? > > The B instruction only has a 24-bit displacement field. That stores a number > of words which gives you a 26-bit address offset. To do jumps beyond that, > the linker would have to bounce the call through a PLT entry. It probably > wouldn't be too hard to make this happen automatically for out of range > jumps if you wanted (though this should be controlled by a switch). As a > matter of passing interest modutils already does something a bit like this > so that kernel modules can be quite distant from the main code body. > > Another possibility would be to extend the compiler and/or assembler to let > you declare a particular function call as being "long" and have that generate > code that rather than a straightforward branch contained code a bit like this: > > mov lr, pc > ldr pc, =target A C construct like this should also do the trick: extern void func(); void (*target)() = func; foo() { target(); } Nicolas Pitre, B. ing. nico@cam.org unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Aug 22 01:43:07 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id BAA03900 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 01:43:06 +0100 Received: (qmail 18887 invoked from network); 22 Aug 1999 00:43:05 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 22 Aug 1999 00:43:05 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 20:42:33 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 20:42:04 -0400 Received: from note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU ([129.94.242.29]:2699 "HELO note.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id ; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 20:41:47 -0400 Received: From paulaner With LocalMail ; Sun, 22 Aug 99 10:41:22 +1000 From: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" To: Philip Blundell Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 10:41:22 +1000 (EST) X-Sender: awiggins@paulaner.disy.cse.unsw.EDU.AU cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Linking In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing On Sat, 21 Aug 1999, Philip Blundell wrote: > > I relise that but isn't this a common thing in RISC chips and > >linkers/compilers use long jump? > > What do you mean by "long jump"? Isn't long jump a gcc function used to make cals to functions further away then the branch inst allows? I might be confusing it something else though. > > >> (Why do you want to do this in the first place, by the way?) > >> > > I have initialiseation an initialisation section and a kernel text > >section (both loadable segments) The initialisation section is mapped > >one-one at 0xC0100000 (on the SA-1100) and the text section is mapped to > >0xFFFF0000. I have debugging calls in the text section that I try to call > >from the init sectin (putc, printf, dumpPT, etc) but the 26bit branching > >gets in the way. I could use ASM macro's to make the calls but this seems > >abit messy, is there a nice solution to this problem. Another solution is > >to have the functions linked in both sections with different names but > >again I think this is a bit messy. > > Well, -fPIC is the obvious solution if you can handle the overhead. Ah cheers, such a simple solution. Since its initialisation and debugging code only that will be compiled like this its fine. Many thanks, Adam > > p. > > unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Aug 22 12:52:40 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA24499 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 12:52:40 +0100 Received: (qmail 4550 invoked from network); 22 Aug 1999 11:52:39 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 22 Aug 1999 11:52:39 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 07:49:12 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 07:49:02 -0400 Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.20]:4006 "EHLO tele-post-20.mail.demon.net") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 07:48:42 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11IW76-000LYN-0K; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 11:48:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org ident=phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11IXXW-0000Cp-00; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 14:20:02 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) To: "Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins" cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Linking In-Reply-To: Message from Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins of "Sun, 22 Aug 1999 10:41:22 +1000." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 14:20:02 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing > Isn't long jump a gcc function used to make cals to functions >further away then the branch inst allows? Not as far as I know. If you're thinking of __builtin_longjmp this is something rather different. There isn't a great deal the compiler can do to help, because it doesn't know where each bit of code will end up in the final program image so it has no way of telling which branches will need a "far" jump instruction. This is why it's really a job for the linker to fix things up. Would probably make an interesting project for someone who wanted to get familiar with BFD. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Aug 22 13:29:23 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA25582 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 13:29:23 +0100 Received: (qmail 8190 invoked from network); 22 Aug 1999 12:29:22 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 22 Aug 1999 12:29:22 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 08:28:50 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 08:28:36 -0400 Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.20]:2022 "EHLO tele-post-20.mail.demon.net") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 08:26:23 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11IWhZ-000NFV-0K; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 12:26:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org ident=phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11IWeo-0000IH-00; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 13:23:30 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) To: Dave Baukus cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Loading modules In-Reply-To: Message from Dave Baukus of "Fri, 13 Aug 1999 17:06:12 CDT." <37B496D4.EC6921B5@inet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 13:23:30 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing >I'm having trouble dynamically loading modules into the >2.2.10-rmk2 kernel. I have broken the problem down to >a very trivial kernel module; it consists of the following 2 >C files: What versions of the tools (binutils and modutils) are you using? Some versions of ld had problems with incrementental links and some versions of modutils would get branches wrong under some circumstances. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Aug 22 13:48:40 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA26212 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 13:48:39 +0100 Received: (qmail 8625 invoked from network); 22 Aug 1999 12:48:39 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 22 Aug 1999 12:48:38 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 08:48:06 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 08:47:38 -0400 Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.38]:3459 "EHLO finch-post-10.mail.demon.net") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 08:47:29 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11IX1y-000LMU-0A; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 12:47:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org ident=phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11IWzN-0000Mb-00; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 13:44:45 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) To: "Vater, Thomas" cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Error building glibc2.1.2pre2 In-Reply-To: Message from "Vater, Thomas" of "Mon, 16 Aug 1999 09:02:10 +0200." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 13:44:45 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing >Since I forgot to send stderr to the file I have to give the error message >from memory. It said something like __NR__sysctl not defined in line 42 I >think. Does that ring any bell? This probably means that your kernel sources are too old. Install a newer version (you don't have to actually run the new kernel, just have its header files available) and the problem should go away. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Aug 22 16:12:10 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA30616 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 16:12:09 +0100 Received: (qmail 15059 invoked from network); 22 Aug 1999 15:12:09 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 22 Aug 1999 15:12:09 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 11:11:48 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 11:11:29 -0400 Received: from ns-inetext.inet.com ([199.171.211.140]:63874 "EHLO ns-inetext.inet.com") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 11:11:20 -0400 Received: from harpo.inetint.com (harpo [172.16.99.60]) by ns-inetext.inet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA13463 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 10:09:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from inet.com ([172.16.13.73]) by harpo.inetint.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA71F0; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 10:10:24 -0500 Message-ID: <37C012C6.425AFFC0@inet.com> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 10:09:58 -0500 From: Dave Baukus Organization: Inet Technologies Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Philip Blundell CC: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Loading modules References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Philip Blundell wrote: > > >I'm having trouble dynamically loading modules into the > >2.2.10-rmk2 kernel. I have broken the problem down to > >a very trivial kernel module; it consists of the following 2 > >C files: > > What versions of the tools (binutils and modutils) are you using? Some > versions of ld had problems with incrementental links and some versions of > modutils would get branches wrong under some circumstances. > > p. Binutils = 2.9.1.0.21-1 Modutils = 2.1.121 -- dave.baukus@inet.com Inet Technologies Inc. Plano, Texas unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Aug 22 16:43:17 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA31495 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 16:43:17 +0100 Received: (qmail 18977 invoked from network); 22 Aug 1999 15:43:16 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 22 Aug 1999 15:43:16 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 11:42:46 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 11:42:28 -0400 Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.20]:4092 "EHLO tele-post-20.mail.demon.net") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 11:42:19 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11IZlB-0004kQ-0K; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 15:42:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org ident=phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11IZks-0001i9-00; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 16:41:58 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) To: Dave Baukus cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Loading modules In-Reply-To: Message from Dave Baukus of "Sun, 22 Aug 1999 10:09:58 CDT." <37C012C6.425AFFC0@inet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 16:41:58 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing > Binutils = 2.9.1.0.21-1 > Modutils = 2.1.121 Neither of those are really the best. I've put an unofficial modutils snapshot in and you might like to try that with binutils 2.9.5.0.7 or whatever HJ's latest beta is. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Aug 22 23:30:57 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA16812 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 23:30:56 +0100 Received: (qmail 9297 invoked from network); 22 Aug 1999 22:30:55 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 22 Aug 1999 22:30:55 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 18:30:26 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 18:30:12 -0400 Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.20]:3290 "EHLO tele-post-20.mail.demon.net") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 18:27:41 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11Ig5T-000NDg-0K; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 22:27:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org ident=phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11Ifxo-00018s-00; Sun, 22 Aug 1999 23:19:44 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) To: Jonathan Foster Kliegman cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, Terry Ewing , David Feustel Subject: Re: EBSA285 In-Reply-To: Message from Jonathan Foster Kliegman of "Thu, 19 Aug 1999 07:48:44 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 23:19:41 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing >> You can buy a complete PC motherboard with Strongarm chip substituted >> for x86 cpu. The motherboard was designed by Chaltech technology > >Can it function as a PCI add in card though? That was the reason we >bought the EBSA-285's... No; the CATS (which is the machine David is referring to) is an ATX form-factor motherboard, not a plug-in card. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Aug 24 14:12:22 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA18034 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:12:22 +0100 Received: (qmail 28379 invoked from network); 23 Aug 1999 20:58:45 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 23 Aug 1999 20:58:45 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 16:55:33 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 16:55:20 -0400 Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.20]:1701 "EHLO tele-post-20.mail.demon.net") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 16:46:57 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11J0zO-000Lor-0K; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 20:46:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org ident=phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11J0yW-0001jP-00; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 21:45:52 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) To: Mark van Doesburg cc: gaixiaz@netzero.net, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, jk8q+@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Re: co285 In-Reply-To: Message from Mark van Doesburg of "Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:20:32 +0200." <199908180720.JAA08422@poekie.test> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 21:45:51 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing > Select "Set Version Information on all symobls for modules" > >I've never tested it with this option, but I've heard from others that >it doesn't work. It is very likely that the problem is caused by >enabling this option. This option will cause you trouble if you compile modules outside the kernel source (ie without -DMODVERSIONS and -include , or whatever the magic runes are). It certainly used to be the case that it didn't actually buy you very much, and could sometimes cause modules to spuriously fail to load. > Select "Kernel Module Loader" > >I've also never tried this option. I don't know what will happen. That one should be benign. It just allows the kernel to auto-load some modules when they are needed. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Aug 24 14:12:29 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA18064 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:12:29 +0100 Received: (qmail 9915 invoked from network); 23 Aug 1999 22:04:08 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 23 Aug 1999 22:04:08 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 18:03:36 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 18:03:28 -0400 Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.38]:3116 "EHLO finch-post-10.mail.demon.net") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 18:03:06 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11J2B8-000LSB-0A; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 22:02:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org ident=phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11J2B3-00022R-00; Mon, 23 Aug 1999 23:02:53 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) To: "J.Bland" cc: pkoning@xedia.com, linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Where is host? In-Reply-To: Message from "J.Bland" of "Tue, 17 Aug 1999 19:33:46 -0000." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 23:02:53 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing >Thanks, but it doesn't want to link the *.o files as it can't find the >-lresolv library. Where do I get this? It's supplied with newer versions of libc, or you could probably get the bind source and use the library that comes with that. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Aug 24 18:46:00 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA09065 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 18:46:00 +0100 Received: (qmail 29943 invoked from network); 24 Aug 1999 17:45:58 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 24 Aug 1999 17:45:58 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:44:09 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:43:56 -0400 Received: from smaug.netwave.de ([194.162.128.45]:22821 "EHLO mail.netwave.de") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:42:53 -0400 Received: from otaku.nerdnet.de (postfix@as-line49.hb.netwave.de [195.185.99.176]) by mail.netwave.de (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA04028 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 19:42:51 +0200 Received: by otaku.nerdnet.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D98D027294; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 19:42:45 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 19:42:45 +0200 From: Jan-Uwe Finck To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: rpm - Data-type 9 not supported Message-ID: <19990824194245.A8311@mail.netwave.de> Reply-To: Jan-Uwe.Finck@bigfoot.de Mail-Followup-To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Hi, when trying to install some .rpm-files I stumbled across the error in the subject.. The current rpm-version is 2.3, but where do I get a version of rpm able to handle data-type 9 , and < 3.0.6, 'cause I can't install that due to it's data-type(which is 9 of course..:-(( ) Any idea anybody ? -- CU Jan-Uwe ------------------------------------------------- PGP-Public-Key on Request. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Aug 24 19:00:18 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA09632 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 19:00:18 +0100 Received: (qmail 1385 invoked from network); 24 Aug 1999 18:00:16 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 24 Aug 1999 18:00:16 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:59:36 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:57:50 -0400 Received: from nexus.carleton.ca ([134.117.76.10]:1737 "EHLO nexus.carleton.ca") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:52:27 -0400 Received: from localhost (stewart@localhost) by nexus.carleton.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA27778; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:51:11 -0400 Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:51:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Rod Stewart To: Jan-Uwe.Finck@bigfoot.de cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: rpm - Data-type 9 not supported In-Reply-To: <19990824194245.A8311@mail.netwave.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing On Tue, 24 Aug 1999, Jan-Uwe Finck wrote: > when trying to install some .rpm-files I stumbled across the > error in the subject.. > > The current rpm-version is 2.3, but where do I get a version of rpm > able to handle data-type 9 , and < 3.0.6, 'cause I can't install that > due to it's data-type(which is 9 of course..:-(( ) Use rpm2cpio if you are trying to get rpm upgraded... Or get a copy of the rpm source and compile it, for the first time: ftp.rpm.org The following might work, you might want to back up /var/lib/rpm first.. cd /tmp rpm2cpio [ rpm name ] | cpio -vid ./bin/rpm --rebuilddb ./bin/rpm -Uhv [ rpm name to upgrade] -Rms unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Wed Aug 25 21:26:08 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA22827 for ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 21:26:08 +0100 Received: (qmail 660 invoked from network); 25 Aug 1999 20:26:05 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 25 Aug 1999 20:26:05 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:25:33 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:25:24 -0400 Received: from scrabble.freeuk.net ([212.126.144.6]:3093 "EHLO scrabble.freeuk.net") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:25:14 -0400 Received: from [212.126.149.66] (helo=freeuk) by scrabble.freeuk.net with smtp (Exim 2.11 #1) id 11JjbW-0005Jo-00 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 20:25:07 +0000 Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 20:57:00 +0000 From: matthew To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: ARM Linux under RISC OS 4 Message-ID: <4874c3749%matthew@emjay.freeuk.com> Reply-To: wet-fish@bigfoot.com X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40d for RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.61b Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Has anyone had any joy running ARM Linux on a machine with RISC OS 4? My Linux set-up, which worked fine under RISC OS 3.6 is: A 1.2 GB IDE Hard Drive on the internal controller with 1GB for Linux. Kernel loader V3.21 Linux V 2.0.30 - that which shipped on the Clan CD The problem is that the kernel menu will appear, as well as the additional arguments prompt, but it just dumps you back into RISC OS after pressing return. I have also tried the alpha loader V3.28, but without any luck. BTW, I am using the Authorised Installers version of RISC OS V4.00 BETA. I spoke to RISC OS Ltd. - their reply 'Not our problem - speak to the ARM Linux people.' (my quotes) Any assistance/suggestions gratefully received. Matthew Harris -- Matthew Harris e-mail: wet-fish@bigfoot.com using an Acorn Risc PC WWW: www.emjay.freeuk.com unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Aug 26 13:05:37 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA10175 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:05:37 +0100 Received: (qmail 14959 invoked from network); 26 Aug 1999 12:05:35 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 26 Aug 1999 12:05:35 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:05:05 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 07:59:18 -0400 Received: from golden.argonet.co.uk ([194.131.104.13]:39532 "HELO golden.argonet.co.uk") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 07:54:44 -0400 Received: from (62.188.135.6) [62.188.135.6] by golden.argonet.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.82 #3) id 11Jy6y-00057i-00; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:54:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: kjbax@argonet.co.uk (Dr K J Baxendale) Reply-To: kjbax@argonet.co.uk To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Thu, 26 Aug 99 12:53:34 X-Mailer: VTi Internet Email reader 1.09 : aa Subject: Re: ARM Linux under RISC OS 4 Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing On Wed 25 Aug 99 (20:57:00 +0000), matthew@emjay.freeuk.com wrote: >Has anyone had any joy running ARM Linux on a machine with RISC OS 4? > >My Linux set-up, which worked fine under RISC OS 3.6 is: > > A 1.2 GB IDE Hard Drive on the internal controller with 1GB for >Linux. > Kernel loader V3.21 > Linux V 2.0.30 - that which shipped on the Clan CD > >The problem is that the kernel menu will appear, as well as the >additional arguments prompt, but it just dumps you back into RISC OS >after pressing return. > >I have also tried the alpha loader V3.28, but without any luck. > >BTW, I am using the Authorised Installers version of RISC OS V4.00 >BETA. > >Matthew Harris > I am also using RO4 and am just starting out with Linux. I have just bought a bigger HD with 1.2G set aside for Linux. The version of PartMan on the Clan CD did not work but then I found mention of this in the Linux FAQs and tried to newer alpha version from the website. I think this worked OK, except it did not allow me to change anything relating to the Linux Table partition which is only 1 sector of 512 bytes long and comes up therefore as zeroK in length. It did do a little damage to my ADFS partition - some spreadsheet files lost bits - but I still had my old HD so was able to retrieve full copies. When I tried to install the kernal, using Paul Vigay's instructions: f12, then: ARMLinux.!Linux -bootkernel ARMLinux.kernal Pressing return took me straight to back to the star prompt, no Kernel Loader menu was displayed. I am using !Linux v 2.0.27 This was as far as I got, since being new to Linux I was not sure whether the problem was a clash with RO4 or that I had not downloaded the kernal properly. So if anyone can help with this at least two of us would be very grateful. TIA Keith -- --. --. --. --. : : --- --- .---------------------------------------------. |_| |_| | _ | | | | |_ | |Internet provider for all Acorn RISC machines| | | |\ | | | | |\| | | '---------------------------------------------' | | | \ |_| |_| | | |__ | Keith J Baxendale kjbax@argonet.co.uk unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Thu Aug 26 15:22:21 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA15436 for ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:22:21 +0100 Received: (qmail 20870 invoked from network); 26 Aug 1999 14:22:20 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 26 Aug 1999 14:22:20 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:21:49 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:21:33 -0400 Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.39]:4073 "EHLO finch-post-11.mail.demon.net") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:20:10 -0400 Received: from milldev.demon.co.uk ([193.237.23.100] helo=gate.sw.milldev.co.uk) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11K0Nq-000DmS-0B; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:20:07 +0000 Received: from brick.armlinux.org.uk (brick.milldev.co.uk [192.168.0.40]) by gate.sw.milldev.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01990; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:12:16 +0100 From: linux@arm.linux.org.uk Received: (from linux@localhost) by brick.armlinux.org.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA00946; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:10:35 -0400 Message-Id: <199908261410.KAA00946@brick.armlinux.org.uk> Subject: Re: ARM Linux under RISC OS 4 To: wet-fish@bigfoot.com Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:10:35 -0400 (EDT) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <4874c3749%matthew@emjay.freeuk.com> from "matthew" at Aug 25, 1999 08:57:00 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL0pre8] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing matthew writes: > The problem is that the kernel menu will appear, as well as the > additional arguments prompt, but it just dumps you back into RISC OS after > pressing return. The Linux Loader is written to the RISC OS3 PRMs with the Volume 5a bits for the extra MMU stuff for the ARM6 and later. It does not do anything clever with RISC OS (it uses all RISC OS compliant methods to perform its magic). I see no reason why it dumps you back into RISC OS. > 'Not our problem - speak to the ARM Linux people.' (my quotes) My belief is that they have altered something to make it incompatable with the old RISC OS 3.7 behaviour. Unfortunately, I do not want to shell out 100ukp for RISC OS 4, just to find out what's causing this problem (since I don't use RISC OS much). Is there anything like the PRMs for RO4? If not, I don't think there's any chance of fixing this problem. _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.linux.org.uk --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Aug 27 01:05:01 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id BAA03297 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 01:05:01 +0100 Received: (qmail 32537 invoked from network); 27 Aug 1999 00:04:50 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 27 Aug 1999 00:04:50 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 19:52:59 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 19:32:26 -0400 Received: from galatea-55.cableol.net ([194.168.16.55]:1932 "EHLO caramon.armlinux.org.uk") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 18:58:14 -0400 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org.uk (linux@raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA06105; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 23:58:15 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org.uk (8.7.4/8.7.3) id XAA00939; Thu, 26 Aug 1999 23:56:38 +0100 Message-Id: <199908262256.XAA00939@raistlin.armlinux.org.uk> Subject: Re: ARM Linux under RISC OS 4 To: wet-fish@bigfoot.com Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 23:56:37 +0100 (BST) Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: <4874c3749%matthew@emjay.freeuk.com> from "matthew" at Aug 25, 99 08:57:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing matthew writes: > The problem is that the kernel menu will appear, as well as the > additional arguments prompt, but it just dumps you back into RISC OS after > pressing return. > > I have also tried the alpha loader V3.28, but without any luck. Actually, could you download the latest version of !Linux off the ftp site (in the testing directory), and try that. I think it'll still fail, but could you run it in debug mode please? I think all you need to do is to add '-debug' into the end of the command line you use to call the loader. This should produce debugging output to the screen. Alternatively, check in the Pipe: filesystem, and see if there is anything in Pipe:C_Debug (or is it PipeFS? I haven't used RISC OS for months now, so I'm getting very rusty on the naming of stuff ;(). _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.linux.org.uk --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Aug 27 09:14:42 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA04370 for ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 09:14:42 +0100 Received: (qmail 23510 invoked from network); 27 Aug 1999 08:14:41 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 27 Aug 1999 08:14:41 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 04:13:50 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 04:12:26 -0400 Received: from chaos.wg.com ([198.85.47.240]:32943 "EHLO chaos.wg.com") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 04:11:29 -0400 Received: from wg.com ([198.85.45.243]) by chaos.wg.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id DAA16384; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 03:58:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wg.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.4 (830.2 3-23-1999)) id 852567DA.002CC89B ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 04:09:09 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: GLOBAL From: arnaud.brodier@wwgsolutions.com To: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Message-ID: <852567DA.002CC891.00@wg.com> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 09:10:15 +0100 Subject: Thank you ! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Hello, This time, I won't ask you one of my basic questions ;-) I did a placement in england during these last six months, porting linux on a brutus-like board (successfully !). Now it is the end. So I just like to thanks every body for having helped me, in these very good and dynamic mailing-list. Thanx, and see you next... Arnaud unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Aug 28 00:42:07 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA07292 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 00:42:07 +0100 Received: (qmail 3585 invoked from network); 27 Aug 1999 23:42:06 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 27 Aug 1999 23:42:06 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 19:41:06 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 19:40:53 -0400 Received: from mail1.svr.pol.co.uk ([195.92.193.18]:2874 "EHLO mail1.svr.pol.co.uk") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 19:37:41 -0400 Received: from modem-141.name63.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.191.141] helo=dlambley.freeserve.co.uk) by mail1.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11KVYw-00053U-00 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 00:37:39 +0100 Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 12:20:22 +0100 From: Dave Lambley To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Booting on a A410/1 Message-ID: <66e81e3849%dfl@dlambley.freeserve.co.uk> X-Organization: Usual pun X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40f for RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Posting-Agent: RISC OS Newsbase 0.61b Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing I'm trying to run ARM Linux on a A420/1 with a ADPL IDE interface. When I boot the kernel, which a friend compiled for me, it gets as far as announcing the keyboard, where it hangs. I haven't made a partition yet, but I'm assured it should get further than that without one. I'm using a Castle keyboard, but it didn't get any further with a standard Acorn keyboard. Any ideas? TIA, Dave -- 'Orders are not to capture them. They must be horribly destroyed.' unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Aug 28 00:49:11 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA07609 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 00:49:11 +0100 Received: (qmail 4977 invoked from network); 27 Aug 1999 23:49:10 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 27 Aug 1999 23:49:10 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 19:48:50 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 19:48:25 -0400 Received: from scrabble.freeuk.net ([212.126.144.6]:3006 "EHLO scrabble.freeuk.net") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 19:47:53 -0400 Received: from [212.126.147.219] (helo=mail.paradise-uk.net ident=ian) by scrabble.freeuk.net with esmtp (Exim 2.11 #1) id 11KVip-0001ah-00; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 23:47:51 +0000 Received: from localhost (ian@localhost) by mail.paradise-uk.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA00589; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 00:53:45 +0100 Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 00:53:44 +0100 (BST) From: Ian Jeffray X-Sender: ian@apocalypse.paradise Reply-To: ian@paradise-uk.net To: Dave Lambley cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Booting on a A410/1 In-Reply-To: <66e81e3849%dfl@dlambley.freeserve.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing On Fri, 27 Aug 1999, Dave Lambley wrote: > I'm trying to run ARM Linux on a A420/1 with a ADPL IDE interface. When I > boot the kernel, which a friend compiled for me, it gets as far as announcing > the keyboard, where it hangs. I haven't made a partition yet, but I'm assured > it should get further than that without one. I'm using a Castle keyboard, but > it didn't get any further with a standard Acorn keyboard. Any ideas? This sounds suspiciously like you're trying to run an A5000 kernel. You need to build a kernel configured for CONFIG_ARCH_ACORN and probably CONFIG_CPU_ARM2 if you've got an standard A420. 2.0.36 works well, but I've not had the time to try running 2.2 on an old machine yet. Ian -- Ian Jeffray / 0378 392 963 / ian@paradise-uk.net / http://eh.org/~ian/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Aug 28 01:40:45 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id BAA09959 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 01:40:45 +0100 Received: (qmail 12769 invoked from network); 28 Aug 1999 00:40:44 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 28 Aug 1999 00:40:44 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 20:40:11 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 20:39:52 -0400 Received: from deepwell.com ([209.63.174.12]:1700 "HELO kerouac.deepwell.com") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id ; Fri, 27 Aug 1999 20:39:35 -0400 Received: (qmail 20656 invoked from network); 28 Aug 1999 01:23:37 -0000 Received: from proxy.dcomm.net (HELO terry) (209.63.175.10) by deepwell.com with SMTP; 28 Aug 1999 01:23:37 -0000 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990827171938.014b9e00@mail1.dcomm.net> X-Sender: terrye@mail1.dcomm.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:31:00 -0700 To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, ucsimm@uClinux.org From: Terry Ewing Subject: custom init Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Hello, I'm trying to put together a machine that runs Linux, but is stripped of all the normal user interface crud. Basically, I have a normal PC in a mini-tower case and I'd like to have it boot Linux and drop directly into an MP3 player (yes, roll your eyes, yet another MP3 player). I'd like it to follow this evolution: - Start with a stock Linux installation (RedHat, I guess. Maybe Debian) - Change the init so it boots straight into the mp3 player - add an LCD display and some external interface buttons - strip the traditional monitor/keyboard off - transplant this to one of the many pentium boards with a 3 inch by 4 inch footprint. - transfer data to a laptop IDE drive - build a case for it. So at the end I'll end up with a small PC running Linux with an IDE laptop drive and an LCD screen. I'd like to make with a StrongARM, but I'm still a ways off from that part. Anyway, back to the point... I'd like to start developing this on a desktop system. Can someone point me to documentation on how to write an init routine or whatever that would allow me to drop straight into the MP3 player? I know there's more to it than just that. Thanks! Terry Ewing - Terry Ewing Deepwell Internet Services unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Aug 28 10:22:10 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA02518 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 10:22:10 +0100 Received: (qmail 20986 invoked from network); 28 Aug 1999 09:21:04 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 28 Aug 1999 09:21:04 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 05:20:39 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 05:20:20 -0400 Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.20]:2786 "EHLO tele-post-20.mail.demon.net") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 05:20:11 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11Keed-000Fpi-0K; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 09:20:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org ident=phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11KeeT-00073W-00; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 10:19:57 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) To: Terry Ewing cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu, ucsimm@uClinux.org Subject: Re: custom init In-Reply-To: Message from Terry Ewing of "Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:31:00 PDT." <4.2.0.58.19990827171938.014b9e00@mail1.dcomm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 10:19:57 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing >Anyway, back to the point... I'd like to start developing this on a >desktop system. Can someone point me to documentation on how to write an >init routine or whatever that would allow me to drop straight into the MP3 >player? I know there's more to it than just that. Sounds like you just need to create a script and have init run it. See /etc/ inittab and all that good stuff. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sat Aug 28 15:46:47 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA20157 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 15:46:46 +0100 Received: (qmail 7134 invoked from network); 28 Aug 1999 14:46:46 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 28 Aug 1999 14:46:46 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 10:46:26 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 10:46:07 -0400 Received: from oracle.clara.net ([195.8.69.94]:1607 "EHLO oracle.clara.net") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 10:45:52 -0400 Received: from [195.8.92.27] (helo=tardis) by oracle.clara.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11Kjjp-000AMs-00; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 15:45:49 +0100 Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 15:41:08 +0100 (BST) From: Dave Gilbert X-Sender: gilbertd@tardis.home.dave To: Dave Lambley cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Booting on a A410/1 In-Reply-To: <66e81e3849%dfl@dlambley.freeserve.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing On Fri, 27 Aug 1999, Dave Lambley wrote: > I'm trying to run ARM Linux on a A420/1 with a ADPL IDE interface. When I > boot the kernel, which a friend compiled for me, it gets as far as announcing > the keyboard, where it hangs. I haven't made a partition yet, but I'm assured > it should get further than that without one. I'm using a Castle keyboard, but > it didn't get any further with a standard Acorn keyboard. Any ideas? Do you really mean an A420/1 - still with 2MB RAM? If so I suspect your out of look - its a challenge getting it to boot with 4MB...... Dave -------------------------------------------------------------------- / Dr. David Alan Gilbert | Running Linux on | Happy \ \ gro.gilbert @ treblig.org | Alpha, x86, ARM and SPARC | In Hex / ____________________________|___ http://www.treblig.demon.co.uk __/ unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Sun Aug 29 19:40:08 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id TAA21485 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 19:40:07 +0100 Received: (qmail 4668 invoked from network); 29 Aug 1999 18:40:06 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 29 Aug 1999 18:40:06 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 14:39:36 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 14:39:23 -0400 Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.38]:2371 "EHLO finch-post-10.mail.demon.net") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 14:36:55 -0400 Received: from tazenda.demon.co.uk ([158.152.220.239] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11L9oz-000AmT-0A for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 18:36:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org ident=phil) by kings-cross.london.uk.eu.org with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11L9m7-0007bU-00 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 19:33:55 +0100 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 (debian) To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ARM platforms In-Reply-To: Message from Alex Holden of "Thu, 29 Jul 1999 18:03:48 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 19:33:54 +0100 From: Philip Blundell Message-Id: Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing >Is the USB supported by the standard Linux UHCI or OHCI drivers, or does a >driver need to be written for it yet? Ho, hum. Turns out (now that I have some devices to try it with) the CATS USB doesn't quite work at the moment because of caching issues. p. unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Aug 30 15:08:24 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA26088 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 15:08:24 +0100 Received: (qmail 489 invoked from network); 30 Aug 1999 14:08:23 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 30 Aug 1999 14:08:23 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 10:07:53 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 10:07:44 -0400 Received: from sparkle.Generation.NET ([205.205.119.4]:58856 "EHLO sparkle.Generation.NET") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 10:07:34 -0400 Received: from dual (generic253.197.205.205.IN-ADDR.ARPA [205.205.197.253] (may be forged)) by sparkle.Generation.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA26566 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 10:07:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Francois Desloges To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Port to EBSA285 Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 09:40:47 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <99083010064408.02835@dual> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Hi there, I've unsuccessfully been trying to find how to build/install a small system based on a linux 2.2.x kernel on a EBSA285 full time for a week now, based solely on the www.arm.uk.linux.org and www.netwinder.org web sites This has appeared to be a very frustrating and exhausting experience due to the lack of structure on both sites and the state of out-of-dateness of most link offered on the main arm site. I'm not here to complain, I just want my job (the Linux Router Project meets the ARM-Linux project on an embedded system) to get done as efficiently as possible and I can't afford to lose a week like that. Tell me if I can help in some way, but the documentation structure of the ARM project definitely has to be improved. So here are the questions I need to get answered first in order to be bootstraped for development: 1) I've read on Alan Cox kernel Release Notes that the ARM users cannot use the official Linux kernel but should get their platform specific tree. What does this mean? Can I easily use the official Linux kernel or should I stick to Russels' development? 2) Is there an EBSA 285 distro, or an EBSA285-HOWTO that would allow me to install a minimal working kernel+system on the EBSA285? We will at first use a HD and a Promise Ultra33 card (I think that's what is recommended by Russell) before transfering the system on flash, as will be required by our final (embedded system) product. After all we only require a rather small system ! 3)Vendors from DiskOnAChip claim that they have a Linux driver, whatever that means. Is there such a thing as a Flash filesystem? 4) Most of the questions on the main mailing lists are about the RiscPC and the Acorn Installation process. Is there an EmbeddedSystem or EBSA285 or kernel development related list? 5) How far is the NetWinder architecture from the EBSA285. Can I use there stuff? This would be great since they're close from here (Montréal). Would some of their developpers help me getting started? 6) Do you know somebody around Montréal that is already used to Linux kernel hacking on the ARM / EBSA-285 that I could eventually hire if I require it ? Thank You in advance and sorry for the bad english -- François Desloges fd@vipswitch.com unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Aug 30 15:23:01 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA26591 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 15:23:01 +0100 Received: (qmail 2700 invoked from network); 30 Aug 1999 14:23:00 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 30 Aug 1999 14:23:00 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 10:21:49 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 10:21:18 -0400 Received: from sparkle.Generation.NET ([205.205.119.4]:59436 "EHLO sparkle.Generation.NET") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 10:19:39 -0400 Received: from dual (generic253.197.205.205.IN-ADDR.ARPA [205.205.197.253] (may be forged)) by sparkle.Generation.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA29941 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 10:19:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Francois Desloges To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Mailing list archive Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 10:17:10 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <9908301018290A.02835@dual> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Me again! The two links http://www.egroups.com/group/linux-arm/ ftp://ftp.barnet.ac.uk/pub/Acorn/armlinux/mail/ given for the archived mailed by the "Mailing lists for ARM Linux page" http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/~rmk/armlinux/mailinglists.html both offer mail that stops in July 98. Where can I find the mail archive covering the period between July 98 and August 99 ? -- François Desloges fd@vipswitch.com unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Aug 30 15:23:11 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA26597 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 15:23:11 +0100 Received: (qmail 2786 invoked from network); 30 Aug 1999 14:23:09 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 30 Aug 1999 14:23:09 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 10:22:38 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 10:22:24 -0400 Received: from [195.89.188.122] ([195.89.188.122]:1268 "HELO linuxhacker.org") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 10:21:40 -0400 Received: (qmail 12835 invoked by uid 0); 30 Aug 1999 14:28:45 -0000 Received: from localhost (alex@127.0.0.1) by linuxhacker.org with SMTP; 30 Aug 1999 14:28:45 -0000 Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 15:28:45 +0100 (GMT) From: Alex Holden To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Port to EBSA285 In-Reply-To: <99083010064408.02835@dual> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing On Mon, 30 Aug 1999, Francois Desloges wrote: > 1) I've read on Alan Cox kernel Release Notes that the ARM users cannot > use the official Linux kernel but should get their platform specific > tree. What does this mean? Can I easily use the official Linux kernel or > should I stick to Russels' development? It means what it says. You need to get the ARM patch from: ftp://ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/armlinux/kernel-sources/v2.2/patch-2.2.10-rmk3.gz and apply it to linux-2.2.10 to get an ARM kernel tree. > 2) Is there an EBSA 285 distro, You don't need an EBSA285 specific distribution, the NetWinder, Debian, or Titan (I would recommend the latter) distributions should work on it. > 3)Vendors from DiskOnAChip claim that they have a Linux driver, whatever that > means. Is there such a thing as a Flash filesystem? Isn't the DOAC driver a binary module for x86? ISTR somebody was developing an Open Source one, but I don't know how far that got. You may well be better using something which pretends to be an IDE disk (such as Compact Flash). > 4) Most of the questions on the main mailing lists are about the RiscPC > and the Acorn Installation process. Is there an EmbeddedSystem or > EBSA285 or kernel development related list? No, any Arm Linux questions are acceptable here. --------------- Linux- the choice of a GNU generation. -------------- : Alex Holden (M1CJD)- Caver, Programmer, Land Rover nut, Radio Ham : -------------------- http://www.linuxhacker.org/ -------------------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Aug 30 15:30:12 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA26911 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 15:30:12 +0100 Received: (qmail 4496 invoked from network); 30 Aug 1999 14:30:10 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 30 Aug 1999 14:30:10 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 10:29:40 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 10:29:24 -0400 Received: from kauket.visi.com ([209.98.98.22]:49944 "HELO mail-out.visi.com") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 10:28:43 -0400 Received: from isis.visi.com (isis.visi.com [209.98.98.8]) by mail-out.visi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 810BC36C9; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 09:28:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (mestery@localhost) by isis.visi.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA14735; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 09:28:38 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: isis.visi.com: mestery owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 09:28:38 -0500 (CDT) From: To: Alex Holden Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Port to EBSA285 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Hi, On Mon, 30 Aug 1999, Alex Holden wrote: > > 2) Is there an EBSA 285 distro, > > You don't need an EBSA285 specific distribution, the NetWinder, Debian, > or Titan (I would recommend the latter) distributions should work on it. > Any pointers on where to get the Titan distribution? I know where to get the Netwinder and Debian distros. Thanks. -- Kyle Mestery | StorageTek's Storage Networking Group mestery@visi.com | http://www.freebsd.org/ mestery@netwinder.org | http://www.netwinder.org/ Protect your right to privacy: www.freecrypto.org unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Aug 30 15:35:06 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA27090 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 15:35:06 +0100 Received: (qmail 5704 invoked from network); 30 Aug 1999 14:35:04 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 30 Aug 1999 14:35:04 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 10:34:34 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 10:34:15 -0400 Received: from serva.prosa.it ([212.94.134.129]:26968 "EHLO serva.prosa.it") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 10:34:00 -0400 Received: (from panta@localhost) by serva.prosa.it (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) id QAA18389; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:33:09 +0200 Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:33:09 +0200 From: Marco Pantaleoni To: Francois Desloges Cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Port to EBSA285 Message-ID: <19990830163309.C16413@serva.prosa.it> References: <99083010064408.02835@dual> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <99083010064408.02835@dual>; from Francois Desloges on Mon, Aug 30, 1999 at 09:40:47AM -0400 Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing On Mon, Aug 30, 1999 at 09:40:47AM -0400, Francois Desloges wrote: > 3)Vendors from DiskOnAChip claim that they have a Linux driver, whatever that > means. Is there such a thing as a Flash filesystem? For a long time the only driver publicly available for M-Systems DiskOnChip was binary-only and for i86. Now there is a somewhat preliminary open source free driver from David Woodhouse. It is available at: ftp://ftp.linux-mtd.infradead.org/pub/mtd/DiskOnChip/ Marco ======================================================================== Marco Pantaleoni panta@prosa.it Padova, Italy Tel: ++39-49-686951 Software Engineering for Unix - PLUTO Linux User Group unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Aug 30 15:43:00 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA27322 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 15:43:00 +0100 Received: (qmail 7197 invoked from network); 30 Aug 1999 14:42:59 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 30 Aug 1999 14:42:59 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 10:42:28 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 10:42:14 -0400 Received: from [195.89.188.122] ([195.89.188.122]:1283 "HELO linuxhacker.org") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 10:39:25 -0400 Received: (qmail 12890 invoked by uid 0); 30 Aug 1999 14:46:33 -0000 Received: from localhost (alex@127.0.0.1) by linuxhacker.org with SMTP; 30 Aug 1999 14:46:33 -0000 Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 15:46:32 +0100 (GMT) From: Alex Holden To: mestery@visi.com cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Port to EBSA285 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing On Mon, 30 Aug 1999 mestery@visi.com wrote: > Any pointers on where to get the Titan distribution? I know where to There used to be a full mirror at: ftp://ftp.netwinder.org/pub/mirrors/carleton/ But it looks like they got tired of hosting it, so you'll have to get it from the main site instead, which can be quite slow at times: ftp://ftp.nw.carleton.ca/ The best version to use at the moment is probably: /pub/winder-testing/pre2_titanVI/ I've had the first pre release running on a couple of machines for quite a while, and it's very stable. I never did manage to get X running, but I think Rod said he had it working, so perhaps the pre2 will have that fixed. --------------- Linux- the choice of a GNU generation. -------------- : Alex Holden (M1CJD)- Caver, Programmer, Land Rover nut, Radio Ham : -------------------- http://www.linuxhacker.org/ -------------------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Aug 30 16:10:20 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA28423 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:10:20 +0100 Received: (qmail 12156 invoked from network); 30 Aug 1999 15:10:18 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 30 Aug 1999 15:10:18 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 11:09:18 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 11:06:12 -0400 Received: from [194.168.16.176] ([194.168.16.176]:1584 "EHLO caramon.armlinux.org.uk") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 11:06:01 -0400 Received: from raistlin.armlinux.org.uk (linux@raistlin [192.168.0.3]) by caramon.armlinux.org.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA03966 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:05:59 +0100 From: Russell King - ARM Linux Admin Received: (from linux@localhost) by raistlin.armlinux.org.uk (8.7.4/8.7.3) id QAA00745 for linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:04:22 +0100 Message-Id: <199908301504.QAA00745@raistlin.armlinux.org.uk> Subject: This mailing list archive To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:04:21 +0100 (BST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Ok, just to let you all know, I've grabbed all the archives for this mailing list from Jan 1997 up until today onto ftp.arm.linux.org.uk in /pub/armlinux/lists/linux-arm _____ |_____| ------------------------------------------------- ---+---+- | | Russell King linux@arm.linux.org.uk --- --- | | | | http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/~rmk/armlinux.html / / | | +-+-+ --- -+- / | THE developer of ARM Linux |+| /|\ / | | | --- | +-+-+ ------------------------------------------------- /\\\ | unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Mon Aug 30 20:44:41 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA04913 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 20:44:41 +0100 Received: (qmail 17386 invoked from network); 30 Aug 1999 19:44:39 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 30 Aug 1999 19:44:39 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 15:29:04 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 15:27:16 -0400 Received: from sparkle.Generation.NET ([205.205.119.4]:41848 "EHLO sparkle.Generation.NET") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 15:20:14 -0400 Received: from dual (generic253.197.205.205.IN-ADDR.ARPA [205.205.197.253] (may be forged)) by sparkle.Generation.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA04471 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 15:20:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Francois Desloges To: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Port to EBSA285 Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 15:18:23 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <9908301519250E.02835@dual> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing On Mon, 30 Aug 1999, Alex Holden wrote: > You don't need an EBSA285 specific distribution, the NetWinder, Debian, > or Titan (I would recommend the latter) distributions should work on it. What is the difference between the three distro and why do you recommand Titan? My goal is to build a small linux 2.2 based system on a SA-110+21285+flash platform embedded in our pure hardware Layer 2-5 data-comm switch, in order to provide it a good TCP/IP stack, SNMP, and all the great networking stuff Linux provides.. I know the Embedded world is one of the main target of Linus (with SMP on the High End). Do you know if there's something like an ARM-Embedded Linux group/project. Something that would looks like "The LinuxRouter Project meets The Linux-ARM project "? If not, would it be a good idea to start such a sub-project? -- François Desloges fd@vipswitch.com unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Aug 31 08:48:03 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA28193 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 08:48:03 +0100 Received: (qmail 15662 invoked from network); 31 Aug 1999 07:48:02 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 31 Aug 1999 07:48:02 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 03:38:35 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 03:36:30 -0400 Received: from [195.89.188.122] ([195.89.188.122]:1770 "HELO linuxhacker.org") by vger.rutgers.edu with SMTP id ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 03:35:48 -0400 Received: (qmail 14798 invoked by uid 0); 31 Aug 1999 07:43:14 -0000 Received: from localhost (alex@127.0.0.1) by linuxhacker.org with SMTP; 31 Aug 1999 07:43:14 -0000 Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 08:43:13 +0100 (GMT) From: Alex Holden To: Francois Desloges cc: linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Port to EBSA285 In-Reply-To: <9908301519250E.02835@dual> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing On Mon, 30 Aug 1999, Francois Desloges wrote: > What is the difference between the three distro and why do you > recommand Titan? I found various problems with the Corel distribution, largely caused by various packages which hadn't been recompiled since Russell's original port of RedHat 3.something (A.OUT based). Titan has been rebuilt from scratch completely using RPMs. The Debian I tried seemed very incomplete, and also seemed to be still using an unversioned Glibc, like Corel (which is a bad thing because it means you have to recompile everything when you upgrade Glibc, which amazingly Corel actually did at one point without switching to a versioned Glibc at the same time), but this was quite a while ago so they may have managed to improve it a lot since then. > I know the Embedded world is one of the main target of Linus (with SMP on the > High End). Do you know if there's something like an ARM-Embedded Linux > group/project. The Linux-7110 project (Linux on the Psion 5 and Geofox 1) is probably the closest to this. I started working on a basic embedded distro at one point, but haven't got much further than an initrd with Glibc, bash, and lots of tools in it: ftp://ftp.linuxhacker.org/pub/flatcap/ --------------- Linux- the choice of a GNU generation. -------------- : Alex Holden (M1CJD)- Caver, Programmer, Land Rover nut, Radio Ham : -------------------- http://www.linuxhacker.org/ -------------------- unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu From owner-linux-arm-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Tue Aug 31 22:50:56 1999 Received: from ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk (IDENT:qmailr@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk [163.1.138.204]) by zen.ics.uwe.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA25145 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 22:50:54 +0100 Received: (qmail 19185 invoked from network); 31 Aug 1999 21:46:43 -0000 Received: from vger.rutgers.edu (128.6.190.2) by ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk with SMTP; 31 Aug 1999 21:46:43 -0000 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu via listexpand id ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 17:45:43 -0400 Received: by vger.rutgers.edu id ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 17:45:29 -0400 Received: from tia.jimpick.com ([204.209.212.111]:3752 "EHLO tia.jimpick.com") by vger.rutgers.edu with ESMTP id ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 17:43:03 -0400 Received: from (pepper.jimpick.com) [24.66.179.61] by tia.jimpick.com with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 11Lvfp-00040m-00 (Debian); Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:42:37 -0700 Received: from jim by pepper.jimpick.com with local (Exim 3.03 #1 (Debian)) id 11LvfU-00072I-00; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:42:16 -0700 To: Alex Holden Cc: Francois Desloges , linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Port to EBSA285 References: X-Url: http://www.jimpick.com/ From: Jim Pick Date: 31 Aug 1999 14:42:12 -0700 In-Reply-To: Alex Holden's message of "Tue, 31 Aug 1999 08:43:13 +0100 (GMT)" Message-ID: <87btbnaaq3.fsf@pepper.jimpick.com> Lines: 27 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070095 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.95) XEmacs/20.4 (Emerald) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-linux-arm@vger.rutgers.edu Precedence: bulk X-Loop: majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-arm-outgoing Alex Holden writes: > The Debian I tried seemed very incomplete, and also seemed to be > still using an unversioned Glibc, like Corel (which is a bad thing > because it means you have to recompile everything when you upgrade > Glibc, which amazingly Corel actually did at one point without > switching to a versioned Glibc at the same time), but this was quite > a while ago so they may have managed to improve it a lot since then. You must have tried it a long time ago. We've been using the versioned glibc since February. At the same time as that big transition, we retargeted the userspace at ARMv3, so the userspace will run on almost every ARM platform from ARM6 to StrongARM. The Debian ARM port is starting to look fairly complete, but we've still got a ways to go before it's polished enough to be released as a "stable" port. In particular, the installation procedure needs lots of work. We're finally now using the same gcc and glibc as the other Debian ports, so things should go fairly smoothly from now on. Hopefully, we'll have an autobuilder installed soon, so we should be able to keep in sync with the other Debian ports. Cheers, - Jim unsubscribe: body of `unsubscribe linux-arm' to majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu