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Now that the beast is working I think it is time for a report about
the whole process.

The trouble started when I decided to wait with the installation of Linux
until I got RiscOS 4. This was because I bought a SA-110 RPC which came
with preinstalled software on the hard disk, but without any installation
media. I had got an ethernet card, so I could backup everything to another
machine in the LAN, but I did not want to risk being left with a broken
system in case the reinstallation failed for some reason.

I must add that mail from the countries of europe important regarding to
computer technology - especially ARM-based systems - may take up to 8 weeks
until it arrives here in the f***ing middle of nowhere, so with addition of
the usual 2-6 weeks for money transfers every missing spare part is a pain.

So soon after I installed the ROMs I tried to get the bootloader working. 
Here I got stuck until a few days ago, because it did not work with 
RiscOS 4 until version 3.36. Normally I would scan through the sources 
myself to find the error, but in this situation where I had neither the 
bootloader sources nor any information about what has changed from RO 3.7 
to RO 4 this would not work. Fine. So I waited.

After the bootloader worked, I tried to install the system using ftp. It
looks like I have missed some hint in the documentation about ftp not being
available now, so I only got some errors in the middle of the installation.

Fine. Plan B. So I downloaded the whole RedHat package structure to the
harddisk and tried again.

This would have been a good idea, but just when I started the bootloader
again I knew this was going to fail because I had used the new ADFS F+ for
the hard disk. Naturally, I got another nice collection of errors.

Plan C. I used FTPc to copy the packages to the SUN and tried to install
via NFS. Guess what.

Plan D. Luckily, there was a dead Linux PC sitting in a corner with a cute
little harddisk with almost 5 of the original 6.4 GB still working. So
I ripped off this one and on that occasion one of the nice 16 MB SIMs too.
So I unplugged the CD-ROM and happily formatted the HD with the old ADFS 
and some 3 additional Gigs of Linux FS, and afterwards copied the packages
to the ADFS partition. The new errors came a bit later than the last ones.
Of course the old ADFS only had short filenames, which slightly irritated
the installation program, apart from some overwritten files missing.

Plan E. I took the HD to another Linux PC, repartitioned it and copied
the packages to a Linux partition. Unfortunately, the PC/BIOS partition
scheme would not be recognized by the installer because there was still 
a Filecore/Linux scheme on the drive. I never knew that it was impossible 
to low-level format a harddisk when there was not a single DOS/Win***
computer around.

Plan F. Then I discovered that the installation system had got cpio
and that cpio would recognize tar files. So I tarred the whole package 
structure into one huge file and put it onto an ADFS  partition.
Then I started the installation, switched to virtual console #2,
mounted both the ADFS and the Linux partition and unpacked the tar file
using cpio. Now I had a RedHat harddisk location suitable for the
installation program.

The rest was nearly trivial. There was only one more error stopping the
whole process, complaining about insmod returning 255. This happened on
"insmod loop.o". A quick look into the bin-directory revealed that insmod
was a bit non-functional with a file length of zero. So I replaced it with
a shell script doing nothing as well but returning 0. There were some minor
complains about unknown packages, but ignoring that helped a lot.

So the basic system was running. There was only one more difficulty with
the network connection because the installation process had no option to
set a gateway. I did that by hand.

The next step was to set up X, which is a bit easier than on PC systems
because of the vast choice of RiscPC graphics output options ;-)
Unfortunately the result was not very convincing. Even the fvwm2 standard
color scheme is a bit... strange.

OK. Basically, it works. Not the most complete of Linux implementations,
but I think that is quite normal with a small user/developer base.

BTW, what happened to shared libraries?

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Having followed the brief discussion on upgrading to ELF, a problem that
has been haunting me for some time, I've decided to go down the Debian
route. Can you point me to any information on what I will need to fix to
get it to work.


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Hi,

I have a question regarding how to compile the net-tools package. I've
built the development system using intels instructions(newest versions
used). I have a working kernel and ramdisk. I am now trying to get
networking up.

I've been using SRPMS and then copying the gz's. 

Are the pppd patches included needed?

I've compiled the pppd package by manually changing 
CC=/usr/local/arm/bin/arm-linux-gcc

The compile produced binaries and file reports them ARM executables.

For the net-tools I took a similar approach changing CC in the
Makefiles. I also applied a patch that came with the package. Also
included is a net-tools-1.48-config.h file which I dont know where it
goes.

The first time I tried to make the package I got

lib/libnet-tools.a: could not read symbols: Archive has no index: run
ranlib to add one
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make: *** [ifconfig] Error 1

I then ran ranlib on libnet-tools.a and ran make again. It failed again
so I touch all the c files and reran ranlib. Tried make and it failed
again.

when I ran nm -s over the .a I file I got this:

It all stderr

(partial content too big too list)
nm: activate.o: File format not recognized

etc. for all the object files

if i change the order around in the Makefile to hostname first It
compiles and then stops on ifconfig.

Let me know if I'm going about building these cross-compiled packages
wrong. 

Thanks,
nizzo
 
 


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>lib/libnet-tools.a: could not read symbols: Archive has no index: run
>ranlib to add one
>collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
>make: *** [ifconfig] Error 1
>
>I then ran ranlib on libnet-tools.a and ran make again. It failed again
>so I touch all the c files and reran ranlib. Tried make and it failed
>again.

You need to use arm-linux-ranlib, ie the target version.  (The reason this 
happened is because the makefile used plain `ar' and not arm-linux-ar.)

>Let me know if I'm going about building these cross-compiled packages
>wrong. 

No; cross-compiling anything that doesn't use autoconf is likely to be 
painful.  What's wrong with the precompiled binaries, out of interest?

p.


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On Mon, 1 Nov 1999, John Lindley wrote:

> Having followed the brief discussion on upgrading to ELF, a problem that
> has been haunting me for some time, I've decided to go down the Debian
> route. Can you point me to any information on what I will need to fix to
> get it to work.

I don't know quite what you mean by `fix'. :-)  Roughly:

  * Download the tarball from ftp.jimpick.com:/pub/debian/arm/image/
  * Find a spare partition and un-tar this, according to the
    instructions (note: this is tricky if you want to replace an
    existing/working Linux partition)
  * Now boot with root=/dev/<that partition>
  * Now `apt-get update', `apt-get upgrade' to upgrade to the latest
    stuff
  * You can install all the ARM .debs from ftp.debian.org now
  * There is a list of errata with the tarball -- you'll probably
    figure most of them out yourself -- do note that on a RiscPC
    you have to remove the execute bit from /etc/rc.boot/hwclock
    (or wherever that file is) to stop the RiscPC freezing on
    shutdown

I hope to get working on hacking up an installer soon (or write
a guide for it, but I hate writing guides).

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Hi,

I am trying to use Russell's BIOS to boot Linux on my EBSA285 while it
hangs

at reading VENDOR_ID in pci_read_config_word() in pci_init(), it is
actually

      ldrh ... [0x7bc00000]

Anybody has similar experience? I suspect there is something wrong with
PCI

BUS Arbitration (Backplane doing arbitration), but I checked serveral
times,

and use two different backplanes, it always gives the same result,

Thank you very much for your help,
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I noticed BIOS is removed from ARM-Linux ftp site:
     ftp://ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/armlinux/

Are we going to have some new update or something else?

Thanks,
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Hi,

I am trying to modify Russell's BIOS to load kernel image from flash. I
disabled
all the PCI stuff, and just do a memery copy to load the kernel image
from flash
to 0x8000. All the rest remains the same, for zImage, I got

      "Uncompressing Linux ... done"

      "Now booting the kernel ..."

then hangs,

I am assuming that changing "tftping kernel" to "loading kernel from
flash" does
not destroy the "correct condition" to jump to kernel. Should this work?
What
did I miss?

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conditions before jump to kernel image on EBSA285

     Caches flushed,
     MMU off
      mode to supervisor mode
      D-cache off, I-cache off
      Interrupt disabled (?) (I saw sti() in BIOS 1.05 right before
boot_kernel()) (?)
      kernel image loaded at 0x8000
      parameter page properly initialized
      r0=0, r1=4

What else is needed?

BTW, if I do all the above initialization in head-armv.S, the original
code will
be misplaced (shifted), should I load the produced image below 0x8000 so

that the original kernel image still begins at 0x8000?

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	For those interested in micro-kernels, my thesis on porting L4 to
the StrongARM is now avaliable from anonymous ftp at
ftp://ftp.cse.unsw.edu.au/pub/users/awiggins/thesis.ps
the first pre-alpha release of the kernel will be in the same directory in
the next day or so.

	Cheers Adam

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Hello all:

I am starting to do some ARM assembly using the SDT 2.50 for Win95/NT. I'd
eventually like to swtich over to using the Linux tools; do the syntax and
mneumonics all change too? Is there something that documents the
differences? (what sections, mneumonics, how it handles things, etc)

Also, can angelboot be used to run standalone applications? Under the ARM
SDT one has the ability to compile a program with Angel dependencies and
get the SDT to load the .axf file for running (without having to flash and
mess with ugly things). Is there anyway of doing something like this short
of writing my own routines?

I'm using Brutus (still) so it's not standalone yet.

Thanks!

Vasant.

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Well it's out the door, on the mirror, all ready to go.  A bit late
(something around 6 months if anyone else was counting), but most of the
edges should be rounded now.

For the brave, for the few who want to do what is right and not simply
convenient, for those with too much time on their hands or too much free
bandwidth, or maybe just for you.  For you we have Titan VI.

Titan VI is an ARMv4l distribution which is completely rpm based.  All
source and binary rpms are  provided.    (Note:  It will not work on a
Risc PC).  The nice thing about Titan is it has a versioned libc.

WARNING: these rpms are compiled with versioning enabled
	in libc.  Blindly installing them WILL break your system, if you
	do not already have a versioned system.
	Make certain you understand what you are doing.

	Installing on an extra partition is highly recommended to begin
	with.

Now that that is over with.  Titan VI is based off Red Hat 6.0, with all
the security updates up to October 31, 1999, excluding XFree86 (which is
an old version which does have some known buffer overflows).  A number of
other key updates include:
	kernel 2.2.12 rmk1 CVS-19991026
	glibc 2.1.2
	GCC 2.95.1
	binutils 2.9.5.0.14
	gdb 4.18

Those are the really big ones.  I'll generate a list of all the
differences, and what is missing later this week and put it on the ftp
site.  In short includes most of the good things in Red Hat 6.0, but does
not come with Netscape, or KDE.  It does have GNOME.

Titan VI is frozen, as such baring any great booboos, there will be no
changes to what is in the titan-VI/RPMS and titan-VI/SRPMS directories.
Any security updates will be put in an updates directory.

Well there is a short intro, now for where to get it from.  Titan VI is
available with all the RPMS and SRPMS from:
Primary site (courtesy The Nexus Project http://www.nexus.carleton.ca):
	ftp://ftp.nw.carleton.ca/winder/titan-VI/
Nightly mirror: (courtesy NetWinder.org/Rebel.com)
	ftp://ftp.netwinder.org:/pub/mirrors/carleton/winder/titan-VI

There is also a small tarball available:
Note:  This tarball should also work as an nfs root without any real
	problems (use kernel-BOOT for the kernel you need).
Remember the "p" option when untarring.
	ftp://ftp.nw.carleton.ca/winder/images/
	ftp://ftp.netwinder.org:/pub/mirrors/carleton/winder/images
		titan-VI.tar.bz2   22.4 MB (uncompresses to 96MB)
		listing.rpms.txt (the rpms which are in it)
		modified.txt (list of modifications made before taring)

[bzip2 brought the size down by 6 megs, for those on slow connections]

If this is your first time installing, it might be easier to use the above
image on a spare partition.  Afterwards adding in the rpms which you want.

If you want to be adventurous you can give something similar to the
following a try.  Assuming  /mnt is a mount point, say /dev/hda3

	mkdir -p /mnt/var/lib/rpm
	rpm --initdb --root=/mnt
	cd [location where you have downloaded the rpms]
	find -name \*.rpm |sort > list
	rpm --root=/mnt -ihv `cat list`

Resolve any complaints, ie. remove the following two from "list", as their
dependencies cannot be satisfied.
	Xconfigurator-4.2.3-1.titan.a.armv4l.rpm
	gcc-java-2.95.1-0.titan.g.armv4l.rpm
Resolve any complaints from rpm, either add or remove packages.  You
really do not want to use --nodeps or --force, as rpm will not do it's
magic when these options are used.  If you must use one of them, install
the package after the first set has been installed.

Now you've installed it, why doesn't it work?  Did you remember to create
an /etc/fstab file (or if you used the tar did you remember to uncomment
the lines for your root partitions?

Having trouble loging in?  You most likely need to have shadow passwords,
try something similar to the following before you umount /mnt
	chroot /mnt
	setup  
		enable shadow passwords
	pwconv
	exit
Note: netcfg does not work, so you will have to write your neworking files
by hand, or copy and modify them from another system.

A note on kernels.  
	--you need at least NeTTrom 2.1.7, but I would use at least 2.1.16
	--The kernel rpm is currently very much NetWinder specific, as I
	  did not know what other options are popular.
		Let me know what other options you need, and I'll try to
		add them in future kernels.
	--Most things are modularized, including the ne2k-pci and tulip
	  drivers.
	--The NWFPE is compiled in the kernel
	--The kernel is called /boot/Image (well it is a symlink)
	--If you want to nfs boot, use the kernel-BOOT rpm, which has
	  the ne2k-pci compiled in the kernel, and is setup for nfsroot
	  boots.

I'm certain I've forgotten a few things, but if you've read this far,
thank you.  I'll put some better instructions on the ftp site later this
week.

There is a mailing list for dealing with Titan specific bugs/issues:
	titan-bugs@nw.carleton.ca
to subscribe send mail to:
	titan-bugs-request@nw.carleton.ca
	with "subscribe" in the body of the message
Something similar to the following:
	echo subscribe |titan-bugs-request@nw.carleton.ca

I would like to thank the following for their work on ARM Linux (in
alphabetical order).  All I really did was package this, these are the
people who did a large portion of the work.  Sorry for anybody I missed.
	Scott Bambrough
	Philip Blundell
	Alex Holden
	Russell King
	Andrew E. Mileski
	Douglas Paul
	Jim Pick
	Ralph Siemsen
	Woody Suwalski

-Rms
Rod m. Stewart <stewart@nexus.carleton.ca>

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Gaixia Zhang writes:
>      Caches flushed,
>      MMU off
>       mode to supervisor mode
>       D-cache off, I-cache off
>       Interrupt disabled (?) (I saw sti() in BIOS 1.05 right before
> boot_kernel()) (?)
>       kernel image loaded at 0x8000
>       parameter page properly initialized
>       r0=0, r1=4
> 
> What else is needed?

Nothing else.  It's probably the PCI stuff which is hanging it.  I suggest
checking the hardware configuration of the DC21285, since it sounds like
any access to the PCI bus just hangs the processor.

> BTW, if I do all the above initialization in head-armv.S, the original
> code will be misplaced (shifted), should I load the produced image below
> 0x8000 so
> 
> that the original kernel image still begins at 0x8000?

Why do you want to integrate the above code into the kernel?  Some reasons
not to:

1. it will remove the flexibility of the loader/kernel, especially when
   things go wrong.
2. upgrades will be difficult - you will have to place this code in each
   and every kernel
3. the change you suggest will never be in the generic kernel - the code
   in head-armv.S is *designed* to be usable on any platform, rather than
   having 5000000 different instances of it for everyone's slightly
   different idea of the world.
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Gaixia Zhang writes:
> I noticed BIOS is removed from ARM-Linux ftp site:
>      ftp://ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/armlinux/
> 
> Are we going to have some new update or something else?

I'ts still there - in source/boot
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Hi,

	I followed Chris Rutter's ARM toolchain guide to build the cross-compiler. I 
think I successfully compiled binutils and gcc but I get the following error 
when i compile glibc. Any clue?


armv4l-unknown-linux-gnu-gcc signals.c -c -O -Wall -Winline 
-Wstrict-prototypes -Wwrite-strings -g      -I../include -I. 
-I/root/build-glibc/linuxthreads -I.. -I../libio  -I/root/build-glibc 
-I../sysdeps/arm/elf -I../crypt/sysdeps/unix -I../linuxthreads/sysdeps/unix/sys
v/linux -I../linuxthreads/sysdeps/pthread -I../linuxthreads/sysdeps/unix/sysv 
-I../linuxthreads/sysdeps/unix -I../linuxthreads/sysdeps/arm 
-I../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/arm -I../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux -I../sysdeps/gnu 
-I../sysdeps/unix/common -I../sysdeps/unix/mman -I../sysdeps/unix/inet 
-I../sysdeps/unix/sysv -I../sysdeps/unix/arm -I../sysdeps/unix 
-I../sysdeps/posix -I../sysdeps/arm/fpu -I../sysdeps/arm 
-I../sysdeps/wordsize-32 -I../sysdeps/ieee754 -I../sysdeps/libm-ieee754 
-I../sysdeps/generic/elf -I../sysdeps/generic   -D_LIBC_REENTRANT -include 
../include/libc-symbols.h     -o /root/build-glibc/linuxthreads/signals.o
signals.c:71: warning: `union k_sigcontext' declared inside parameter list
signals.c:71: warning: its scope is only this definition or declaration, which 
is probably not what you want.
signals.c:71: warning: parameter has incomplete type
signals.c:75: warning: `union k_sigcontext' declared inside parameter list
signals.c:76: parameter `ctx' has incomplete type
signals.c: In function `pthread_sighandler':
signals.c:91: type of formal parameter 5 is incomplete
make[2]: *** [/root/build-glibc/linuxthreads/signals.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/root/glibc-2.1.2pre3/linuxthreads'
make[1]: *** [linuxthreads/others] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/glibc-2.1.2pre3'
make: *** [all] Error 2

The packages I used:
binutils-2.9.5.0.16
gcc-2.95.1
kernel headers of linux-2.2.12 with two rmk patches
glibc-2.1.2pre3
glibc-linuxthreads-2.1.2pre3
glibc-crypt-2.1

Thanx in advance.
Yee Man

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Hello people,

I'm trying to install the current version of ARMlinux and have run into a
problem.

I downloaded the current base files and instimage.tar.gz, then took the
rpms from the CD from which I previously successfully installed ARMlinux,
then added the new kernel rpms. This lot was collated on an NFS mount,
which the installer had no probs using (tick VG).

Installing with this lot produces some package dependency errors. Some of
these make sense and I just have to download new ones, but I don't
understand some of the others:
eg 
bash needs unknown package (/bin/sh)
bash needs unknown package (grep)

downloading the latest version of grep (grep-2.1-1a1.arm.rpm) doesn't
help, and I don't know what package /bin/sh is referring to (there are
several more like this: . I can see
that the comps file in /base gives the list of packages that are selected
in the installer, and it looks like the two files hdlist and uglist deal
with the details and dependencies. However I can't find any docs on
exactly how this works, or how these files are prepared, that might let
me work out which files are actually missing/out of date.

Is this stuff documented anywhere? Do I simply have to go through the
whole list of RPMS to get them all up to date to match what is on the
website or is there a smarter way?

Any help/explanation appreciated.

Wookey
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Wookey writes:
> Installing with this lot produces some package dependency errors. Some of
> these make sense and I just have to download new ones, but I don't
> understand some of the others:
> eg 
> bash needs unknown package (/bin/sh)
> bash needs unknown package (grep)
> 
> downloading the latest version of grep (grep-2.1-1a1.arm.rpm) doesn't
> help, and I don't know what package /bin/sh is referring to (there are
> several more like this: . I can see
> that the comps file in /base gives the list of packages that are selected
> in the installer, and it looks like the two files hdlist and uglist deal
> with the details and dependencies. However I can't find any docs on
> exactly how this works, or how these files are prepared, that might let
> me work out which files are actually missing/out of date.

If you are doing a NFS-based or CD-based install, the hdlist and uglist
must must must match the .rpms you have, or else you will be asking for
problems.

The hdlist and so forth is a convienient and quick way to store and retrieve
the information which is contained in the .rpm headers.

Most fo the missing dependencies are caused because the "distribution" is
not one single "distribution", but many different ones.  It now contains
bits of RH 3.0.3, 4.0, 4.1, 4.2 and even some RH 5.x stuff.  Also, for
some reason, the rpm utility seems to add /bin/sh, but nothing seems to
provide /bin/sh in the dependency information (but the bash package does
actually satisfy it irl).

Yes, it's something that should be fixed, but in the next update to the
installer, I've decided to mask out some specific dependency warnings
instead.
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Building Russels BIOS, I ended up with this strange
warning I wasn't able to figure out the cause of: 

>string.h:17: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memset'

Here is the appropriate section of string.h:

>typedef unsigned long size_t;
>
>extern void *memzero(void *ptr, int size);
>
>extern void *memset(void *ptr, int byte, size_t size);
>
>extern int memeq(const void *m1, const void *m2, size_t size);

I know this is probably not important. But it just obsesses me for two days now,
every time I see it passing while I build the BIOS.

Anybody knows?

-- 
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I had the exactly same problem today.
In my case the cause was the arbiter source. This has to be the backplane.
Try this:

Remove completely the jumpers from J15 pin 18 and J15 pin 21 on the EBSA-285
Ensure that the etchlinks EL5, EL6, EL7 are not cut on the PCI development
backplane, or if they are cut, then jumper 1-2 on J9, J10, and J15

Paul Robertson

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From: Gaixia Zhang <gaixiaz@netzero.net>
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Date: Tuesday, November 02, 1999 11:04 AM
Subject: BIOS 1.05: hangs at reading VENDOR_ID (reading at 0x7bc0 0000) on
EBSA285


>Hi,
>
>I am trying to use Russell's BIOS to boot Linux on my EBSA285 while it
>hangs
>
>at reading VENDOR_ID in pci_read_config_word() in pci_init(), it is
>actually
>
>      ldrh ... [0x7bc00000]
>
>Anybody has similar experience? I suspect there is something wrong with
>PCI
>
>BUS Arbitration (Backplane doing arbitration), but I checked serveral
>times,
>
>and use two different backplanes, it always gives the same result,
>
>Thank you very much for your help,
>Gaixia
>
>
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Francois Desloges writes:
> >string.h:17: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memset'
> 
> Here is the appropriate section of string.h:
> 
> >typedef unsigned long size_t;
> >
> >extern void *memzero(void *ptr, int size);
> >
> >extern void *memset(void *ptr, int byte, size_t size);
> >
> >extern int memeq(const void *m1, const void *m2, size_t size);
> 
> I know this is probably not important. But it just obsesses me for two days now,
> every time I see it passing while I build the BIOS.

It's a mismatch between what the compiler thinks the arguments should be to
memset() and what I'd like them to be.  Some (newer) versions of GCC have
a version of memset() built into them.  However, the warning is harmless 
in this case, and probably should be fixed.
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> > >string.h:17: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memset'
> > 
> > Here is the appropriate section of string.h:
> > 
> > >typedef unsigned long size_t;
> > >
> > >extern void *memzero(void *ptr, int size);
> > >
> > >extern void *memset(void *ptr, int byte, size_t size);
> > >
> > >extern int memeq(const void *m1, const void *m2, size_t size);
> > 
> > I know this is probably not important. But it just obsesses me for two days now,
> > every time I see it passing while I build the BIOS.
> 
> It's a mismatch between what the compiler thinks the arguments should be to
> memset() and what I'd like them to be.  Some (newer) versions of GCC have
> a version of memset() built into them.  However, the warning is harmless 
> in this case, and probably should be fixed.

Perhaps the compiler want size_t to be unsigned int, rather than
unsigned long?  Even if they are the same size they are, I think,
distinct types.

	paul
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Thank you very much, Paul, and thank you all for your help,

It turn out to be the problem. Now it goes to "Tftping .../Image"
and then "Time out", the server says "tftfpd: trying to get .../Image".
I have a 3c590 (10BaseT), seems people have similar problem
with dec21041 and 3c595. I will look into this,

It is much better, thanks again,
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Hi, I make a small modification to Russell's loader.
Right before
    bl    SYMBOL_NAME(start_main)
do
    memcpy fetching kernel from flash
    zero param page
    r0=0, r1=4
    jump to kernel
I got "Uncompressing Linuix ... done", "Now booting the
kernel", then hangs,

The difference I can see is that that Russell has cli() before
pci_init(), and sti() before boot_kernel(), and he fills in
param page. Should I see more message comes out on
the serial port?

The problem is I can write to UART (4200 0000) right
before the line turning on MMU, but right after the line,
I can't write to UART (fe00 0000). Should I?

Thank you very much for your help,
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On Tue 02 Nov, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote:
> Wookey writes:
> > Installing with this lot produces some package dependency errors. 

> If you are doing a NFS-based or CD-based install, the hdlist and uglist
> must must must match the .rpms you have, or else you will be asking for
> problems.

OK, doing a get * (isn't ncftp marvellous!) to get all my packages
uptodate allows the installer to proceed. Indeed it has just finished so
that seems to work OK.

(BTW is there a good reason why this step of the installer formats the
HDs? If there is a 'package foo not found' error (quite likely for a
range of scenarios) you have to wait whilst it formats all the linux
partitions again each time you think you have fixed it.) It would be
better if the drive formatting was done and then the package 
picker/dependencies/installing part was independent of drive formatting.

> The hdlist and so forth is a convienient and quick way to store and
> retrieve the information which is contained in the .rpm headers.

OK, but how are they generated? or even examined? If I knew this I could
make them match up, and make new distributions that worked. 

> Most fo the missing dependencies are caused because the "distribution" is
> not one single "distribution", but many different ones.  It now contains
> bits of RH 3.0.3, 4.0, 4.1, 4.2 and even some RH 5.x stuff.  Also, for
> some reason, the rpm utility seems to add /bin/sh, but nothing seems to
> provide /bin/sh in the dependency information (but the bash package does
> actually satisfy it irl).

I'm happy to spend time fixing these problems, and updating packages, if
someone points me at some clues/tools for installation fettling.

> Yes, it's something that should be fixed, but in the next update to the
> installer, I've decided to mask out some specific dependency warnings
> instead.

Hmm, bit of a bodge, but functional for a given set of rpms I suppose.

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On Wed, Nov 03, 1999 at 11:34:53AM +0000, Wookey wrote:
> (BTW is there a good reason why this step of the installer formats the
> HDs?

If you're referring to the redhat installer, it doesn't have to
reformat the partitions each time.  One of the options available
instead of 'format a new partition', is 'mount a previously-
formatted partition'.  I tend to use that option every time anyway,
since I tend to format the partitions myself (-b 2048 is my
friend - leads to vastly quicker access, especially when deleting
large files, or fscking).

Cheers,
Phil

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On Wed 03 Nov, Phil Norman wrote:
> 
> If you're referring to the redhat installer, it doesn't have to
> reformat the partitions each time.  One of the options available
> instead of 'format a new partition', is 'mount a previously-
> formatted partition'.  

But when doing a first time install I do need the partitions formatting
once. It's just that if there is a problem with my rpms I don't
then need it reformatting every time I go round the 'which packages do
you want to install' loop.

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Gaixia Zhang writes:
> The difference I can see is that that Russell has cli() before
> pci_init(), and sti() before boot_kernel(), and he fills in
> param page. Should I see more message comes out on
> the serial port?

Beware - the sti() and cli() refer to the state of the I-bit in
the StrongARM, which is the reverse of the meaning in the x86 code.

> The problem is I can write to UART (4200 0000) right
> before the line turning on MMU, but right after the line,
> I can't write to UART (fe00 0000). Should I?

Yes you should.  This tends to indicate that it's not making it
into the code after the MMU switch.  I trust that you're using
a recent 2.2 or 2.3 kernel?
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Paul Koning writes:
> Perhaps the compiler want size_t to be unsigned int, rather than
> unsigned long?  Even if they are the same size they are, I think,
> distinct types.

I think actually it may be a signed type.
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>>>>> "Russell" == Russell King <- ARM Linux Admin <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>> writes:

 Russell> Paul Koning writes:
 >> Perhaps the compiler want size_t to be unsigned int, rather than
 >> unsigned long?  Even if they are the same size they are, I think,
 >> distinct types.

 Russell> I think actually it may be a signed type. 

Eek.  Unsigned int vs. unsigned long is a small difference in detail,
but making size_t a signed type would rather obviously be an error.

I suppose the theing to do would be to dig into the gcc sources and
find out what it did...

	paul
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In message <199911031600.QAA00704@raistlin.arm.linux.org.uk>, Russell King - AR
M Linux Admin writes:
>Paul Koning writes:
>> Perhaps the compiler want size_t to be unsigned int, rather than
>> unsigned long?  Even if they are the same size they are, I think,
>> distinct types.
>
>I think actually it may be a signed type.

No, that's ssize_t.  Gcc makes size_t `unsigned int' on ARM GNU/Linux systems; 
I vaguely recall that it used to be `unsigned long', but I could be wrong 
about that.

p.


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Hello, everybody;

    I am a student from the Technische Universität from Berlin. I am
nowadays working on what here is called "End of Career Project", and my
subject has to do with system development based on ARM processors: The
basic idea is to bild several boards, here at the Mikroelectronik
Institute (obvious translation to English) based on ARM processors. I am
in charge of teh software part. The truth is that I have really just
begun, and feel a little overwhelmed by the amount of existing
documentation. I have also subscribed to the list, since I will probably
try to work with (at least its help) GNU/Linux for ARM and Intel
architectures, in order to get informed. My aim is to build something
like a bootloader and a small operating system which could be used with
these general-purpose boards developed here.

    So, my doubs relate to what to start with and thigs like that. What
do ARM systems share in common, and what are the best ways to proceed
and so. I would really appreciate if someone from you could lead me a
little, or help me to find useful information.

    I am sorry for having written such a long mail to the list, I have
noticed that they usually are quite concise.

    Thank you ver much in advance for your time and help !!


            Miguel

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Wookey writes:
> But when doing a first time install I do need the partitions formatting
> once. It's just that if there is a problem with my rpms I don't
> then need it reformatting every time I go round the 'which packages do
> you want to install' loop.

Err, the partitions are formatted at just before they are mounted for the
install, not after the "Which partitions do you want to format" window.
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On Wed, 03 Nov 1999, Philip Blundell wrote:
> No, that's ssize_t.  Gcc makes size_t `unsigned int' on ARM GNU/Linux systems; 
> I vaguely recall that it used to be `unsigned long', but I could be wrong 
> about that.
Yep! Changing:
>typedef unsigned long size_t;
to
>typedef unsigned int size_t;
make the warning disappear!

Thanks everybody!

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Hi all,

On behalf of Jan-Derk Bakker (who is temporarily without laptop and
therefore without proper email access), I'd like to announce the
schematics of the Linux Advanced Radio Terminal (LART), a small low power
computing element used in the MMC project (http://mmc.et.tudelft.nl/).
LART features:

- 10x7.5 cm (that's 4x3 inch in Stonehenge Units)
- 220 MHz Digital StrongARM SA-1100 CPU
- 4 Mbyte flash memory
- 32 Mbyte DRAM memory
- Low power: peak power consumption is 1W

You can download the schematics as a PDF file at
http://www-ict.its.tudelft.nl/~erik/open-source/LART/ . For now the
schematics are released on an "as is" basis; we're looking for an
appropriate open hardware license.


Erik

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>Dave Borja writes:
>> I posted a while ago about angleboot problems with our
>> ebsa110 type board. Turns out I was able to get it to work
>> by cutting down the size of the data packet sent for the image
>> download. This was hardcoded at 2016. Cutting it in half gets
>> the download to work.
>
>This sounds like a problem with something not being able to fragment
>packets on ethernet correctly.
>
>> Getting things to boot is another matter. I compiled a kernel
>> (based on 2.2.12) with  arm and brutus/sa1100 patches. Tried
>> building with the ebsa110 option and with minimal support (basically
>> just the serial ports, ram disk as initd, etc). We plunk this down
>> into base address 0x8000 and put the ram disk up there in 0x00100000.
>> Since we only have 8mb of memory and the ram disk is a little over 6mb
>> uncompressed, things are tight.
>
>I hope you're using either the Image or zImage files?  Also, a 6MB ramdisk
>in 8MB isn't really going to leave much room at all for the user-mode.
>Do you get any kernel messages from the serial port?  (and you did
>specify "console=ttyS0,19200n8" or similar during the build?  Also,
>check that r0 and r1 are being passed the correct values.


Well, we want this to behave similar to the brutus, w/the console coming out
of ttyS1 since the first serial port is being used by angelboot. And,
I assume r0 should be 0 and r1 should have index for the architecture?

In any case, thanks for the input, we are certainly having our troubles,
mostly due to
us all being low on the learning curve (we lost our main embedded
systems man who flew off to a job at intel)...

We are concentrating on just getting this to boot. We need to figure out how
to map the dram and i/o space since the map is different from the ebsa110 w/
our dram starting at 0x40000000.

The sa110 is on a 32 bit bus along with the dram & flash. There's a CPLD
chip that
buffers the 16 bit isa bus. On that we've got a Natioinal Semi super i/o
where we
hang the standard perpherials (serial ports, parallel port, ide, GPIO
lines). Also there
is a cs89000 ethernet chip on the bus as well as the eprom w/angel.

Most of this may be a matter of patching the  include/asm-arm *.h files to
get
the IRQs and memory map correct.. But we need to do some initialization for
that
super i/o chip. From reading the discussion on the bios,it's not clear where
to put this
According to Philip, head-armv.S should remain as platform independend as
possible.
but this seems to be the only reasonable place to put this. Should this be
in the bios
instead? For now, we just want to get booted....

Thanks,
 Dave Borja

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PDC20246: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
......
VFS: Cannot open root device 03:03

I have 2.2.12, Russell talked about setting up these enable bits
(PCI config offset 0x50) in BIOS for PDC20262, but I think it
is becaues 2.2.12 does not directly support PDC20262. Do I
need setup these bits in BIOS for PDC20246 since 2.2.12
directly support PDC20246? Or it is due to some other problem?

BTW, BIOS 1.05 detects hda (with drive), hdb hdc hdd (not
present), but kernel begins with
    Partition check
        hde1 hde2 hde3
Why it begins with hde? I think this is related to the above prolem,
right?

Thank you all for your help,
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Hi
Please show me how to get Binutils(ver 2.9.0.19a).
I can't find this file in the specified ftp site. Where site can I
find???
Sincerely

--
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Hi
Please show me how to get Binutils(ver 2.9.0.19a).
I can't find this file in the specified ftp site. Where site can I
find???
Sincerely

-----
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On Mon, Nov 1, 1999, Gaixia Zhang <gaixiaz@netzero.net> wrote:

>I am trying to use Russell's BIOS to boot Linux on my EBSA285 while it
>hangs
>at reading VENDOR_ID in pci_read_config_word() in pci_init(), it is
>actually
>
>      ldrh ... [0x7bc00000]
>
>Anybody has similar experience? I suspect there is something wrong with
>PCI
>BUS Arbitration (Backplane doing arbitration), but I checked serveral
>times,
>and use two different backplanes, it always gives the same result,

I had this problem, it was due to missing pull-up resistors on the
arbitration signals of the PCI.


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>Please show me how to get Binutils(ver 2.9.0.19a).
>I can't find this file in the specified ftp site. Where site can I
>find???

I think you mean 2.9.1.0.19a.  That version is outdated now.  You can get both 
the 2.9.1 and 2.9.5 versions of binutils from 
ftp.varesearch.com:/pub/support/hjl.

p.


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Dave Borja writes:
> Well, we want this to behave similar to the brutus, w/the console coming out
> of ttyS1 since the first serial port is being used by angelboot.

I won't bore you with the exact arguments to give for ttyS1. ;)

> And, I assume r0 should be 0 and r1 should have index for the architecture?

r0 should always be 0, and r1 should be the architecture number, which should
be allocated by my automatic number allocater (see Documentation/arm/README).
There is little point having an architecture number if it's not registered ;)

> We are concentrating on just getting this to boot. We need to figure out how
> to map the dram and i/o space since the map is different from the ebsa110 w/
> our dram starting at 0x40000000.

Have a look at the RiscPC stuff - generally it's the virt_to_phys and
phys_to_virt macros, and maybe a few else where depending on the kernel
version you have.

> Most of this may be a matter of patching the  include/asm-arm *.h files to
> get the IRQs and memory map correct.. But we need to do some initialization
> for that super i/o chip. From reading the discussion on the bios, it's not
> clear where to put this.
> According to Philip, head-armv.S should remain as platform independend as
> possible. but this seems to be the only reasonable place to put this.
> Should this be in the bios instead? For now, we just want to get booted....

Phil and myself agree here - the whole point of architecture numbers, and the
code in head-armv.S is that it is well tested architecture independent code,
so to get the kernel running in C code as soon as possible.  Therefore, all
you need to do in a BIOS is:

1. initialise the RAM
2. setup minimal hardware (eg, VGA chip, SuperIO, etc)
3. obtain the kernel at the correct address
   (in your case, this would preferably be 0x40008000)
4. setup parameter page passing any information required (like RAM size,
   root device, etc)
5. call it at that address

Depending on the flexibility of your machine configuration, (4) may
simply be a case of copying pre-constructed param structure and then
changing the RAM size to match the detected RAM size.

As an aside, 2.3 now knows about non-contiguous "banks" of RAM, which are
handled slightly differently.  If you have contiguous RAM, ignore this
paragraph, else look at the RISC PC architecture in the latest 2.3 kernels.
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Where can I find the FMU program.  We are using the EBSA285 board.  The
mail archives state that it can be found at
devleloper.intel.com/design/strong/sa-evaldownload.htm, but that does
not exist any more and it is not listed on Intel's software page.


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Hi All,

It has come to my attention that "users" of ARM Linux do not want to
use the main mailing list for their questions.

In order to make it easier for them, I am requesting that people move
the kernel related discussions to linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk,
thus making linux-arm relate to everything user-space and installation
based issues, which is the field of questions that should be on the main
mailing list.

The carrot should be less email for those people who aren't interested
in users complaints, etc, and the users don't see so much of technical-
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To provide the stick, I expect this move to be complete by next weekend,
and from that point, any person not observing this will be unsubscribed
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Buggy processor (00000007), trying to continue.
Please send contents of /proc/cpuinfo and this message to
linux@arm.linux.org.uk

Here is the contents of /proc/cpuinfo:

Processor : Intel sa110 rev 3
BogoMips  : 214.63
Hardware  : EBSA285

BIOS 1.05, Kernel 2.2.12-rmk1 boots off hde3

The system boots up fine, but it tells "hde:DMA" sometimes, and
"hde:pio"
sometimes, and "DMA-intr error" sometimes,

I am not sure it is due to my setting. Could someone explain a little
bit more
about this? What does it mean? How much trouble can this cause?
What can I do for this?

Thanks a lot,
Gaixia


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On Tue, Oct 26, 1999 at 01:46:18PM -0700, Dave Borja wrote:
> Hi, a few months ago someone mentioned that there
> was a driver available for this ethernet chip? I belive
> Russ Nelson was supposed to have written one- anyone
> know where I can obtain source to cross compile for
> sa110? 
>    Thanks, 
>  Dave Borja

It is in the 2.2.x kernels definetly. I have an RPC card based on this
chip, and have a driver ready for the kernel. Please contact me as the
RiscStation uses the CS8920A as well, and a driver is being done for this
as well (by me) just as soon as i get my mits back on my RiscStation!

if you'd like my code, please email me and i'll send it, as i don't want
it publically released until i;ve a) contected russ and got the ok for
patching it back into cs89x0.c and b) tested it.

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>Which of these two should be used for questions regarding 
>"building the GNU toolchain for ARM targets"? 
>These are user programs, but they are used for building the kernel, hence
>my question.

Compiling the kernel isn't their raison d'etre.  The compiler experts don't 
necessarily hang out on the linux-arm-kernel list; the best place to post 
questions about those tools is either here, or on the crossgcc list (for 
cross-compiling issues), or on the binutils or gcc mailing lists.

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On Fri, 5 Nov 1999, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote:

> It has come to my attention that "users" of ARM Linux do not want to
> use the main mailing list for their questions.
> 
> In order to make it easier for them, I am requesting that people move
> the kernel related discussions to linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk,
> thus making linux-arm relate to everything user-space and installation
> based issues, which is the field of questions that should be on the main
> mailing list.

I just subscribed to both of these lists.

Which of these two should be used for questions regarding 
"building the GNU toolchain for ARM targets"? 
These are user programs, but they are used for building the kernel, hence
my question.

Klaasjan van Druten.


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On Fri, 05 Nov 1999 22:11:13 +0000 (GMT), Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote:
> It has come to my attention that "users" of ARM Linux do not want to
> use the main mailing list for their questions.
> 
> In order to make it easier for them, I am requesting that people move
> the kernel related discussions to linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk,
> thus making linux-arm relate to everything user-space and installation
> based issues, which is the field of questions that should be on the main
> mailing list.

OK, what's the subscription address?

> The carrot should be less email for those people who aren't interested
> in users complaints, etc, and the users don't see so much of technical-
> related discussions.
> 
> To provide the stick, I expect this move to be complete by next weekend,
> and from that point, any person not observing this will be unsubscribed
> from the linux-arm list.

Ouch! ;-)


Erik

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kjdevel writes:
> Which of these two should be used for questions regarding 
> "building the GNU toolchain for ARM targets"? 
> These are user programs, but they are used for building the kernel, hence
> my question.

They are part of the user environment and are also used to compile user
programs; they should go to the main linux-arm list for the time being.
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I've just had an error in the installation instructions reported, and located
the mistake.

The web page now reads:

*ADFS
*dir $.Linux
*!Linux -bootkernel kernel -initrd root
Kernel Loader v3.36 (Mar  3 1999 22:06:49)
  (c) 1995-1999 Russell King (rmk@arm.linux.org.uk)

 -> 1: Return to RiscOS
    2: Linux


 Select kernel:  1

Note that the 'initrd' filename is supposed to read 'root'.
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On Sun, Oct 31, 1999 at 05:31:14PM +0000, Alex Holden wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote:
> >    of their magazine.  They said that Linux was just "a small minority
> >    of people making a lot of noise."  Does the ARM Linux (Acorn)
> >    community have any reaction to that?
> 
> _We're_ a minority? ROFL!

This is weird, as a couple of people i've spoken too (incl. a developer)
seem to think that ARM Linux may be a way of helping out the old acorn
market.

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On Thu, 04 Nov 1999, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote:
> Phil and myself agree here - the whole point of architecture numbers, and the
> code in head-armv.S is that it is well tested architecture independent code,
> so to get the kernel running in C code as soon as possible.  Therefore, all
> you need to do in a BIOS is:
> 
> 1. initialise the RAM
> 2. setup minimal hardware (eg, VGA chip, SuperIO, etc)
> 3. obtain the kernel at the correct address
>    (in your case, this would preferably be 0x40008000)
> 4. setup parameter page passing any information required (like RAM size,
>    root device, etc)
> 5. call it at that address
 
That's exactly what I was looking for!

In the normal situation (in EBSA-285 BIOS 1.05 init/boot.c):

The BIOS .data is loaded at 0x1000
The  struct param_struct is created at 0x100
The kernel is loaded at 0x8000.

Is there a reason for these address choices?

I don't want to load the kernel from the network.
I ultimately want to read it from a DiskOnChip device, but to begin with, I
will probably use an IDE drive (although using the flash is probably a good
idea as well).

I've found very few information regarding how to place a kernel on a hard drive
an loading it. Most document recommend to use lilo, but I doubt this would be a
good idea ;-)  Anybody has a pointer to a document about bootstraping?

From, my i386 PC, I've created a linux partition on the disk, mkfs ext2 on it
that will eventually become root, mkdir boot on that file (trying to be
standard here), copy zImage in this boot directory, run lilo in order to
create a mapfile for the kernel.

Now, there's no doc about the mkboot utility that comes with the kernel but I
presumed I can use it to write the boot sector of my partition with the
start_sector of the mapfile the BIOS needs.  How do I calculate this
OFFSET mkboot require?

And in order for me to better understand the BIOS kernel loading process, where
can I found the descrtiption of the partition table structure?
(I deducted that it begins at offset 0x1be inside the boot sector, that the
first byte is the partition type, and that mkboot write the mapfile
start_sector at 1c6, but that's all). 

Thank you for any insight

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Erik Mouw writes:
> > In order to make it easier for them, I am requesting that people move
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> OK, what's the subscription address?

Hmm, yes, I suppose that'd help ;)  It's on the web site (as usual), and
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Russell King - ARM Linux Admin writes:
> > OK, what's the subscription address?
> 
> Hmm, yes, I suppose that'd help ;)  It's on the web site (as usual), and
> for ease of use:
> 
>  send mail to majordomo@lists.arm.linux.org.uk containing in the subject
>  line:
> 
> subscribe linux-arm-kernel

Ok, that should read 'body' instead of 'subject'.
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On Sat, 6 Nov 1999, Ben Dooks wrote:

> On Sun, Oct 31, 1999 at 05:31:14PM +0000, Alex Holden wrote:
> > On Sun, 31 Oct 1999, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote:
> > >    of their magazine.  They said that Linux was just "a small minority
> > >    of people making a lot of noise."  Does the ARM Linux (Acorn)
> > >    community have any reaction to that?
> > 
> > _We're_ a minority? ROFL!
> 
> This is weird, as a couple of people i've spoken too (incl. a developer)
> seem to think that ARM Linux may be a way of helping out the old acorn
> market.

You're not the only one.  When I spoke at Wakefield earlier this year it
was one of the more attended talks, second I think only to the ROS4 talk
(but aparently more enjoyable).  People there saw ARM Linux as the savoir
of the Acorn users.

Melanie

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Hi,

I'm trying to build the latest version of the gnu cross-compiling 
toolchain for arm-linux targets (in my case, on a i686-linux host, 
for a Psion Series 5 target)

Chris Rutter's webpage seems to describe the necessary steps
 quite well, nevertheless I have a few remaining questions.

The files/versions I intend to use:

binutils-2.9.5.0.19.tar.bz2
gcc-core-2.95.2.tar.gz
gcc-2.95.2-diff-991022.gz  
glibc-2.1.2
 
My questions:
1a. should the fold-const patch mentioned on Chis Rutters page still be
   applied to gcc-core-2.95.2? If yes, before or after
   gcc-2.95.2-diff-991022?
1b. Chriss's page also mentions that in  gcc/config/arm/linux-elf.h, the
    line that reads #if 0 (near the top) should be changed to #if 1.
    I can't find that line. Perhaps that change is no longer needed?

2. gcc-2.95.2-diff-991022 doesn't apply cleanly to gcc-core-2.95.2, e.g.,
   the files gcc/cp/parse.h and parse.c are not found, is that a problem? 

3. the -Dinhibit_libc hack still seems needed when first building gcc as a
   cross-compiler (i.e., without glibc), is there perhaps a more elegant
   method? 

4. which linux kernel versions are compatible with the above versions of
   the tool-chain?
   (in particular, how about linux-2.2.1, since it seems to be the
   de facto standard for the Psion)

Thanks in advance,
Klaasjan van Druten


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Hi,

I've updated the ARM Linux installer for Acorn machines, date code
1999.11.07.  There are updated installation instructions on the
web site.  The following changes have been made:

 * FTP mode added.
 * Most dependency problems resolved (updated RPM library).
 * Added "Fatal Error" when stuff goes majorly wrong.
 * Unimplemented bits disabled.
   (bootp net config, check for bad blocks, package selection)

Todo:

 * Allow installer to set root password.
 * Check for bad blocks during ext2fs formatting.
 * Network BOOTP configuration (if there is demand).
 * Individual package selection (if there is demand).
 * Write installation instructions for FTP mode.

Files changed:

 * arch/rpc/disks/root
 * arch/rpc/disks/supplemental
 * arch/rpc/install/RedHat/base/comps
 * arch/rpc/install/RedHat/base/hdlist
 * arch/rpc/install/RedHat/instimage/usr/bin/runinstall2
 * arch/rpc/install/RedHat/instimage/usr/bin/install.cpio

Files removed:

 * arch/rpc/install/RedHat/base/fsstnd.cgz
 * arch/rpc/install/RedHat/base/uglist

I specifically want to hear about any successes/failures from the use of
this release.  If you do encounter any problems, please let me know ASAP.
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>1a. should the fold-const patch mentioned on Chis Rutters page still be
>   applied to gcc-core-2.95.2? If yes, before or after
>   gcc-2.95.2-diff-991022?

No.  A better patch is already included in gcc-2.95.2.

>1b. Chriss's page also mentions that in  gcc/config/arm/linux-elf.h, the
>    line that reads #if 0 (near the top) should be changed to #if 1.
>    I can't find that line. Perhaps that change is no longer needed?

No, it is no longer there.  The autoconf machinery should sort out the 
binutils versioning stuff for you.

>2. gcc-2.95.2-diff-991022 doesn't apply cleanly to gcc-core-2.95.2, e.g.,
>   the files gcc/cp/parse.h and parse.c are not found, is that a problem? 

No.  The `cp' directory is C++ and not included in the `core' distribution.  
But those patches are useless anyway so you are not missing anything.

>3. the -Dinhibit_libc hack still seems needed when first building gcc as a
>   cross-compiler (i.e., without glibc), is there perhaps a more elegant
>   method? 

No, unfortunately not.

>4. which linux kernel versions are compatible with the above versions of
>   the tool-chain?
>   (in particular, how about linux-2.2.1, since it seems to be the
>   de facto standard for the Psion)

The kernel experts can probably answer this more definitively (try the 
linux-arm-kernel list), but I'm fairly sure that version will not work.  
Both the 2.2 and 2.3 kernels in CVS seem to be OK though.

p.



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Hi all,

I'm new to arm-linux and Arm, but already for 5 years in Linux/i386.

As a sort of hobby, I want to make a port of Linux to the Connexant
Superpipe single chip MCNS/DVB cablemodem chip. For building the kernel, I
want to use a cross compiler to compile the kernel.

First I tried egcs-1.0.2, because that's also my native i686 code compiler.
The compilation ended with missing crt*.o files. Seems I have to get these
files somewhere. :-)

But, because gcc-2.95 is the preferred compiler, I tried to compile this.
What I found was that egcs-1.0.2 is not able to compile it. It fails on some
*stream.cc in libiberty. It did succeed in building libgcc.a from the .S
sources, so that's one good thing already.

So my question is, what is the best thing to do? I want to make goed
packages for cross compiling from i686 to Arm and are prepared to spend some
time building them. After that, I want to write good documentation (Linux in
general lacks that!) and then continue porting to the SuperPipe.

Who can give me some hints?

Bas.




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On Sun, 7 Nov 1999, kjdevel wrote:

> 1a. should the fold-const patch mentioned on Chis Rutters page still be
>    applied to gcc-core-2.95.2? If yes, before or after
>    gcc-2.95.2-diff-991022?

No no, this is purely for 2.95 and 2.95.1 -- I'll make this a little
clearer.

> 1b. Chriss's page also mentions that in  gcc/config/arm/linux-elf.h, the
>     line that reads #if 0 (near the top) should be changed to #if 1.
>     I can't find that line. Perhaps that change is no longer needed?

Again, a pre-2.95.2 thing.  It's all handled in `configure' now as
far as I can see.  Look for `SUBTARGET_OLD_LINKER' -- that's what's
replaced the old stuff.

> 2. gcc-2.95.2-diff-991022 doesn't apply cleanly to gcc-core-2.95.2, e.g.,
>    the files gcc/cp/parse.h and parse.c are not found, is that a problem? 

Nope, those are C++ files, and aren't in your distribution.  I'll add
a note about this.

> 3. the -Dinhibit_libc hack still seems needed when first building gcc as a
>    cross-compiler (i.e., without glibc), is there perhaps a more elegant
>    method? 

Er, not that I know of.

> 4. which linux kernel versions are compatible with the above versions of
>    the tool-chain?

Um, no idea.  I tend to use the most recent versions of tools available,
with the rationale that being too tentative to use newer is hardly
going to make bugs in the newest stuff get fixed any faster (if you
parse that senence).

-- 
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Oh, by the way, would BIOS and bootstraping stuff have to go to linux-arm or
linux-arm-kernel mailing list ?

Anyway, trying to find a way to generate the one sector map file the BIOS is
looking on my drive, I've found a loadmap package on:
ftp://ftp.netwinder.org/pub/mirrors/armlinux/distrib/RedHat/RPMS/loadmap-1.6-1.arm.rpm

But the source package is not available from the correspondent SRPMS. And since
I'm trying to make this work from an i386 station, I fear this package will be
of no help.

Any other way of generating this map file?

Maybe I will just dd my kernel directly on a partion and load it from the raw
device, but I would have really like to do this more cleanly!

Thank for any help! 

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Francois Desloges writes:
> Oh, by the way, would BIOS and bootstraping stuff have to go to linux-arm or
> linux-arm-kernel mailing list ?

l-a-k.

> Anyway, trying to find a way to generate the one sector map file the BIOS is
> looking on my drive, I've found a loadmap package on:
> ftp://ftp.netwinder.org/pub/mirrors/armlinux/distrib/RedHat/RPMS/loadmap-1.6-1.arm.rpm
> 
> But the source package is not available from the correspondent SRPMS. And since
> I'm trying to make this work from an i386 station, I fear this package will be
> of no help.

You should find it there now (or the primary ftp site).
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Try:
http://developer.intel.com/design/strong/swsup/

I believe its in the µhal Libraries, Version 1.2 link.

Dave Schneider <schneider@enjoyweb.com> writes:

> Where can I find the FMU program.  We are using the EBSA285 board.  The
> mail archives state that it can be found at
> devleloper.intel.com/design/strong/sa-evaldownload.htm, but that does
> not exist any more and it is not listed on Intel's software page.
> 
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On Mon, Nov 08, 1999 at 10:00:30PM +0000, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote:
> Francois Desloges writes:
> > Oh, by the way, would BIOS and bootstraping stuff have to go to linux-arm or
> > linux-arm-kernel mailing list ?
> 
> l-a-k.

Russell, how about an extra mailing list, linux-arm-lists, in
which people can discuss which lists certain topics can go to
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Hello,

It's a long time since I last came in this mailing list and I would like to 
know if somebody I've heard any reports of Linux being ported to HP Jornada.

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This is a long mail, there are a few short questions below. Maybe you don't
need the extra info.

Hi,

I'm trying to get a working cross-development environment for arm-linux
kernel development. I'm getting close, but still not there. For building the
Arm cross compiler (from i686-linux host), I use the following files:

-    gcc-2.95.tar.gz (GNU)
-    gcc-2.95-2.95.1-diff.gz (GNU)
-    gcc-2.95.1-2.95.2-diff.gz (GNU)
-    gcc-2.95.2-diff-991022.gz (Chris) Does not apply cleanly:

Changelog.rej:
***************
*** 1,3 ****
  Mon Aug 16 01:29:24 PDT 1999 Jeff Law  (law@cygnus.com)

   * gcc-2.95.1 Released.
--- 1,7 ----
+ 1999-09-10  Philip Blundell  <pb@nexus.co.uk>
+
+  * config.guess, config.sub: Import from latest autoconf.
+
  Mon Aug 16 01:29:24 PDT 1999 Jeff Law  (law@cygnus.com)

   * gcc-2.95.1 Released.

-    Patch from me (forgot -u option...):

file gcc/libgcc2.c: (moved xcc -> inhibit stuff upwards and added anidecl.h
to let machmode.h compile)
34a35,42
>
> /* In a cross-compilation situation, default to inhibiting compilation
>    of routines that use libc.  */
>
> #if defined(CROSS_COMPILE) && !defined(inhibit_libc)
> #define inhibit_libc
> #endif
>
42a51,52
> #else
> #include <ansidecl.h> // for PROTO in machmode.h
60,66d69
< /* In a cross-compilation situation, default to inhibiting compilation
<    of routines that use libc.  */
<
< #if defined(CROSS_COMPILE) && !defined(inhibit_libc)
< #define inhibit_libc
< #endif
<
3033a3037
> #ifndef inhibit_libc
3034a3039
> #endif

gcc/frame.c (?) (added xcc -> inhibit stuff)
35a36,42
> /* In a cross-compilation situation, default to inhibiting compilation
>    of routines that use libc.  */
>
> #if defined(CROSS_COMPILE) && !defined(inhibit_libc)
> #define inhibit_libc
> #endif
>

I've compiled cross-binutils from binutils-2.9.1.0.23 (without patches) and
installed in /opt/arm:
In build dir:




../sourcedir/configure --prefix=/opt/arm --build=i686-linux --host=i686-linu
x --target=arm-linux
    make
    make install

Then:

#installing linux stuff (is in /opt/arm/linux, with include/asm ->
include/asm-arm)
# symlink /opt/arm/arm-linux/include/asm -> ../../linux/include/asm
# symlink /opt/arm/arm-linux/include/linux -> ../../linux/include/linux

mkdir build-gcc
cd build-gcc
../gcc-2.95.2-mine/configure --prefix=/opt/arm --build=i686-linux --host=i68
6-linux --target=arm-linux
make cross
(fails on building libio, because of lack of glibc header files)
cd gcc
make
make install
(this does actually build and install cross-compiler)

Questions:

- Should I apply patches to the binutils package or use binutils-2.9.5.x.x?
Did i compile the binutils right?

- I put everything in /opt/arm because the files of the binutils are
interfering with the ones installed for the native compiler. Is there an
elegant way to let them coexist? I saw a solution of using a wrapper script
for using dislocated binutils support files with the cross-tools, but that
was not nice...

- Is it right to use the kernel includes the way I do? Wouldn't it be better
to use a --local-include=/opt/arm/include to force using
/opt/arm/include/{asm,linux} for the kernel includes? In that case, I can
use /opt/arm/include for the glibc includes. Is glibc-2.1.2 a good choice?

- Is my patch OK? It is somewhat crippled because it was too late tonight
:-) I used LIBGCC2_CFLAGS="-Dinhibiti_libc" make before and that worked too!

- Do I need libio? Does it really need the glibc header files? How can I
avoid libio from building?

Bas.






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>- Should I apply patches to the binutils package or use binutils-2.9.5.x.x?
>Did i compile the binutils right?

Use 2.9.5.  Yes, your compilation options were fine.

>- I put everything in /opt/arm because the files of the binutils are
>interfering with the ones installed for the native compiler. Is there an
>elegant way to let them coexist?

It should happen automatically.  What are the actual problems you see?

>- Is it right to use the kernel includes the way I do? Wouldn't it be better
>to use a --local-include=/opt/arm/include to force using
>/opt/arm/include/{asm,linux} for the kernel includes? In that case, I can
>use /opt/arm/include for the glibc includes.

No.  The cross-compiler will look in $PREFIX/arm-linux/include and this is 
where you should put the headers.

>Is glibc-2.1.2 a good choice?

Yes.

>- Do I need libio? Does it really need the glibc header files? How can I
>avoid libio from building?

No, you probably don't want it.  Yes, it really does need the header files.  
The easy way to stop it building is just to delete it from your source tree 
before running configure.

p.



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----- Original Message -----
From: Philip Blundell <pb@nexus.co.uk>
To: Bas Mevissen <sgm@plamev.demon.nl>
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Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 11:55
Subject: Re: GCC 2.95.2 new patch made for cross-compiler inhibit_libc stuff
and still some questions


| >- Should I apply patches to the binutils package or use
binutils-2.9.5.x.x?
| >Did i compile the binutils right?
|
| Use 2.9.5.  Yes, your compilation options were fine.
|
OK. Can I safely upgrade my native binutils for i686 too or can the two
versions (2.9.1.x.x and 2.9.5.x.x) coexist?

| >- I put everything in /opt/arm because the files of the binutils are
| >interfering with the ones installed for the native compiler. Is there an
| >elegant way to let them coexist?
|
| It should happen automatically.  What are the actual problems you see?
|

I did not try it, I just looked for duplicate, different(*) files and found
them: /usr/lib/lib{bfd,opcodes,iberty}*. I understand that when you compile
a new binutils, it will read the current supported targets. But what if I
distribute it in binaire form?

(*) different from the native binutils already installed.

What I would like to do is build separate cross packages that just add files
and do not replace anything. I have to get deeper into this.

| >- Is it right to use the kernel includes the way I do? Wouldn't it be
better
| >to use a --local-include=/opt/arm/include to force using
| >/opt/arm/include/{asm,linux} for the kernel includes? In that case, I can
| >use /opt/arm/include for the glibc includes.
|
| No.  The cross-compiler will look in $PREFIX/arm-linux/include and this is
| where you should put the headers.
|
Just to be sure: that's the right place for the glibc header files too? That
makes sense to me, because then you can use an other version of the
c-library for the arm cross-builds.

| >- Do I need libio? Does it really need the glibc header files? How can I
| >avoid libio from building?
|
| No, you probably don't want it.  Yes, it really does need the header
files.
| The easy way to stop it building is just to delete it from your source
tree
| before running configure.
|
OK. I'll see if I can make a patch for cleanly exclude it from the build,
without removing files.
BTW. Where is libio for?

Thanks for the answers so far.

Bas.



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>OK. Can I safely upgrade my native binutils for i686 too or can the two
>versions (2.9.1.x.x and 2.9.5.x.x) coexist?

Either.  It should be safe to use 2.9.5 for x86 but the two can also coexist.

>I did not try it, I just looked for duplicate, different(*) files and found
>them: /usr/lib/lib{bfd,opcodes,iberty}*. I understand that when you compile
>a new binutils, it will read the current supported targets. But what if I
>distribute it in binaire form?

If those are static libraries (.a) then you can safely not distribute them - 
nothing uses them at run time.  The only problem you will have is if you 
configure with "--enable-shared" in which case you will end up with clashing 
versions of libbfd.so and friends; the solution is just to not do that.

>| No.  The cross-compiler will look in $PREFIX/arm-linux/include and this is
>| where you should put the headers.
>|
>Just to be sure: that's the right place for the glibc header files too? That
>makes sense to me, because then you can use an other version of the
>c-library for the arm cross-builds.

Yes.

>BTW. Where is libio for?

It provides I/O stream functions.  I think the iostream component of libstdc++ 
rests on it.  The stdio library in C also uses libio but libc contains its own 
copy.

p.



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I have been trying to install ARM Linux using the installation
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I have an EBSA-like board; for this question its major difference is
that it has a 55 Mhz clock.

I know this affects the serial port baud rate calculation.  I've also 
seen the following in asm-arch/arch-ebsa285/timex.h:

/*
 * On EBSA285 boards, the clock runs at 50MHz and is
 * divided by a 4-bit prescaler.  Other boards use an
 * ISA derived timer, and this is unused.
 */
#define CLOCK_TICK_RATE         (50000000 / 16)


The question is are there other areas I need to look at to compensate for
the different clock ?

thanks

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In message <382AD8B9.AFEC648F@inet.com>, Dave Baukus writes:
>I have an EBSA-like board; for this question its major difference is
>that it has a 55 Mhz clock.
>
>I know this affects the serial port baud rate calculation.  I've also 
>seen the following in asm-arch/arch-ebsa285/timex.h:
>
>The question is are there other areas I need to look at to compensate for
>the different clock ?

No.  The bus clock is pretty much transparent to software.  I guess the only 
thing to watch out for is drivers that assume knowledge of the PCI clock 
frequency.

p.



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Hi,

I am trying to get a ramdisk for ARM-Linux on EBSA285. I ran into the
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param page?
and What is the physical address I should load the ramdisk image?

How about initrd_start?

I can only find 4200 0000 mapped to fe00 0000 and some others in
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Where could I get the related information for ramdisk?

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If I try to use it on an uncompressed Linux kernel it fails after the =
first section "Missing data section!"

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Is there an alternative to mkaif ?

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Paul Robertson writes:
> I have a utility (part of Russell King's bios 1.05) called mkaif, which
> converts ARM-ELF binaries to ARM Image Format.
> If I try to use it on an uncompressed Linux kernel it fails after the
> first section "Missing data section!"

mkaif was only designed to be used with the resulting image from the bios,
however, if someone does fix it to work with the kernel, please feed back
the changes to me.
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>How do I determine if this is a problem with the ELF header or with
>mkaif ?

Objdump will show you the ELF headers.

>Is there an alternative to mkaif ?

Depends what you want it for.  `objcopy -O binary' might do the trick.

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Hello again.

I wanted to know if anyone has decent information on how to send audio
data to the UCB1200 under Linux; I'm using the Brutus board, but didn't
see any /dev/audio device; the module does load.

Vasant.


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Hello again:

After much fooling around on my Brutus board, I got audio to work but I
had to use a nmod with 42 as the major for the UCB1200/audio device; did
anyone else have to do this manually? 

This may have been covered elsewhere, but if I wish to cross-compile a
program, is there any "clean" way of doing so? (Compile an ARM Linux
program on my x86 PII which has been setup with the cross-compilers).

I can directly invoke arm-linux-gcc on my PC which produces programs that
I can transfer to / run on the ARM target[Brutus]. However, if a program
uses a configure script is there a prefered way of telling it that my
target is an ARM platform? (If so what do I tell it for the platform
type?). 

To give some background, I'm trying to compile some simple sound apps (I
tried to cross-compile SAPlay from Nicolas 's dir on Netwinder but I
endedup mucking around with the Makefile and not getting it to compile
properly).

I appreciate any help, sorry if this has been covered elsewhere.

Vasant.


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I am currently trying to install ARMLinux on my RiscPSbut I am having 
problems getting all the files onto a suitable partition.  For a start, my 
ADFS partition is in the new Filecore format, so I can't use that.  Secondly,
my Ethernet card is EtherM and the installer doesn't have a driver for it.  
Thirdly (and most strangely) my SCSI drives (including CD ROM) don't mount!  
I have a Cumana SCSI 2 card which is sometimes identified as "EASI Simple 
card 13" and displayed without the numbers in brackets which normally appear 
at the start of the line.  This always happens when I do a shift-boot and
sometimes happens otherwise.  After this, the driver won't even load.  If the
SCSI card is properly identfied, the driver works but I can't mount any
drives.  This happens on the latest installer/kernel and happened on the 
previous version as well.

I would be grateful if anyone can either tell me what to do about my SCSI 
card or supply an installer with support for EtherM or the new Filecore.
Alternatively, there may be other methods for installing which I have 
overlooked.

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Hi all,

Hope these questions don't sound too naive. I just got on this list yesterday.

A few of us recently acquired some donated settop boxes (Uniview 210, see
www.uniview.com) that uses a 7500FE CPU. We are interested in getting Linux
on it.

I've been trying to get one of the stock RiscPC kernels to boot on the box,
with no luck. I am not too surprised by this, but would like some pointers
as to how one can start getting such a system to boot.

This is what happens now, when I try to boot a kernel (RiscPC kernel from
www.arm.linux.org, one that I compile myself from netwinder.org's CVS, etc):
I boot with:
!Linux -bootkernel kernel
At the "extra args" prompt, I put "console=ttyS0,9600"

What seems to happen is that the loader loads in the image, and then gives
me a screen full of colorful pixels, and then reboots. I don't see anything
on the other side of the serial port (Connected to my PC).

It is worth noting that the STB has only TV tuner output. In my case, I hook
it up to a tuner card on my PC. 

I have some documentation for the machine, and the 7500FE specs are
available publicly on Cirrus logic's website. Any pointers on how to proceed
is much appreciated.

randolph
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Randolph Chung writes:
> Hope these questions don't sound too naive. I just got on this list yesterday.

Please subscribe to linux-arm-kernel as well.  l-a-k is the correct forum for
these discussions now.

> What seems to happen is that the loader loads in the image, and then gives
> me a screen full of colorful pixels, and then reboots. I don't see anything
> on the other side of the serial port (Connected to my PC).

The "colorful pixels" is a known problem.  Since there is no VRAM, my guess is
that the VIDC is fetching it's display from the first few pages of memory, which
is where the Linux kernel sits.  This is therefore nothing to worry about.  The
only thing I can think of getting aroud this problem is for !Linux to reprogram
the palette with black, ie, no video output until the kernel boots.

I know that you have been talking to me indirectly through Chris Rutter, and
obviously this email means that it seems to be unidirectional. ;(  As a general
note, I don't like talking through people; mistakes happen.  It's better to
get first-hand info.

What I suggest is hooking up another machine to the serial port, and applying
the suggestion I made on l-a-k this month.  (Search for CONFIG_DEBUG_LL).
See the archives on

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>This is what happens now, when I try to boot a kernel (RiscPC kernel from
>www.arm.linux.org, one that I compile myself from netwinder.org's CVS, etc):

The 2.3 tree in CVS has support for one ARM7500FE-based machine already; this 
might be a good starting point.  The 7500's IOMD block is not quite the 
same as the one in the RiscPC (and there are a few other differences too) so 
it will be hard to make one kernel run on both machines.

>I boot with:
>!Linux -bootkernel kernel

BTW, the !Linux loader is not free software.  You might like to investigate 
LinLoader or some other alternative instead, since you will probably have to 
modify it to pass the right architecture number for a new machine.

>It is worth noting that the STB has only TV tuner output. In my case, I hook
>it up to a tuner card on my PC. 

Do you know how the TV output is arranged?

p.



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> I know that you have been talking to me indirectly through Chris Rutter, and
> obviously this email means that it seems to be unidirectional. ;(  As a general
> note, I don't like talking through people; mistakes happen.  It's better to
> get first-hand info.

Just want to make sure I clarify this -- Chris has been more than helpful in
trying to help me get this setup. I'm posting to get some extra info, not
because of any fault on his part.

Unfortunately I'm going to be away for a few days. Will get on l-a-k as soon
as I return. Meanwhile, if any relevant emails come up, I'd appreciate a cc.

thanks much,
randolph
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Philip Blundell writes:
> The 2.3 tree in CVS has support for one ARM7500FE-based machine already; this 
> might be a good starting point.  The 7500's IOMD block is not quite the 
> same as the one in the RiscPC (and there are a few other differences too) so 
> it will be hard to make one kernel run on both machines.

Err, not as far as I know.  If you want the ARM7500 stuff integrated at some
point, you know what to do.  (btw, it seems like the feature freeze in the main
kernel is dead).

> >I boot with:
> >!Linux -bootkernel kernel
> 
> BTW, the !Linux loader is not free software.  You might like to investigate 
> LinLoader or some other alternative instead, since you will probably have to 
> modify it to pass the right architecture number for a new machine.

The loader is free software, just not open-sourced.  Reason?  RISC OS is not
a platform which lends itself to open-source.
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Russell King wrote:
>Philip Blundell writes:
>> The 2.3 tree in CVS has support for one ARM7500FE-based machine already; 
>> this might be a good starting point.  The 7500's IOMD block is not quite the 
>> same as the one in the RiscPC (and there are a few other differences too) so 
>> it will be hard to make one kernel run on both machines.
>
>Err, not as far as I know.

What are you referring to?

>If you want the ARM7500 stuff integrated at some point, you know what to do.

There are two 7500 patches currently sitting in your incoming queue (according 
to your web page) which have been there since August 9 and September 13.  What 
would you like me to do to speed things along?

>> BTW, the !Linux loader is not free software.
>
>The loader is free software, just not open-sourced.

`Free software' in the GNU sense means that the source is available, you can 
modify it, redistribute it and so on.  As I understand it !Linux is zero-cost 
software which is not the same.  My apologies if I have misrepresented the 
licence terms.

p.



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Philip Blundell writes:
> Russell King wrote:
> >Err, not as far as I know.
> What are you referring to?

The 2.3 CVS tree.

> >The loader is free software, just not open-sourced.
> 
> `Free software' in the GNU sense means that the source is available, you can 
> modify it, redistribute it and so on.  As I understand it !Linux is zero-cost 
> software which is not the same.  My apologies if I have misrepresented the 
> licence terms.

I'd like it to be open-sourced, but I just don't see that this is possible with
any RISC OS-based development system.  Any changes would have to be hand-patched
into the sources since there is no diff/patch utility that I am aware of, which
makes it impractical.
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>The 2.3 CVS tree.

That certainly did contain 7500 support last time I looked, assuming you are 
talking about the one at netwinder.org.

>I'd like it to be open-sourced, but I just don't see that this is possible 
>with any RISC OS-based development system.  Any changes would have to be 
>hand-patched into the sources since there is no diff/patch utility that I 
>am aware of, which makes it impractical.

It's several years since I used Acorn C but I thought it did come with a diff 
program.  Or one could use a Unix system for maintaining the source.  
Regardless, this seems like a tangential issue to the question of whether to 
actually release source or not.  LinLoader is GPL'd so there is an existence 
proof that RISC OS free software is possible.

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Philip Blundell writes:
> >The 2.3 CVS tree.
> 
> That certainly did contain 7500 support last time I looked, assuming you are 
> talking about the one at netwinder.org.

Naturally.

> It's several years since I used Acorn C but I thought it did come with a diff 
> program.  Or one could use a Unix system for maintaining the source.  
> Regardless, this seems like a tangential issue to the question of whether to 
> actually release source or not.  LinLoader is GPL'd so there is an existence 
> proof that RISC OS free software is possible.

It's certainly not tangential at all.  It's a question of the amount of time
and tools.  There is a diff program, but it does not produce any sort of
output that could be passed into a patch-type program.  The output of !Diff
is only useful for documentation purposes.

This lack of a standard diff/patch is /the problem/ and /the reason/ why it's
not open-sourced.  If someone can show me a practical solution to this, then
it will get open-sourced.  Until that time, it remains as is.

Also, it's worth noting that !Linux cannot be linked by the newer Acorn tools,
since the AOF format has changed in non-backward compatable ways (which prevent
the non-source distributable library which the programs link against linking).

Basically, development on RISC OS is a mess, just like partitioning stuff on
Acorn machines.
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On 14-Nov-99 Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote:

> This lack of a standard diff/patch is /the problem/ and /the reason/ why
> it's not open-sourced.  If someone can show me a practical solution to
> this, then it will get open-sourced.  Until that time, it remains as is.

The tools at:

  ftp://ftp.uni-stuttgart.de/pub/systems/acorn/riscos/unixtools/gnu/

may be of some help here, although they are rather old (I've not had
occasion to use them much).

There may be more recent ports elsewhere.

> Also, it's worth noting that !Linux cannot be linked by the newer Acorn
> tools, since the AOF format has changed in non-backward compatable ways
> (which prevent the non-source distributable library which the programs
> link against linking).

Would it be of any use to use GCC instead? (http://hard-mofo.dsvr.net/)

Ben.

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On Sat, 13 Nov 1999 04:34:46 -0600 (CST), Vasant Ramasubramanian wrote:
> This may have been covered elsewhere, but if I wish to cross-compile a
> program, is there any "clean" way of doing so? (Compile an ARM Linux
> program on my x86 PII which has been setup with the cross-compilers).
> 
> I can directly invoke arm-linux-gcc on my PC which produces programs that
> I can transfer to / run on the ARM target[Brutus]. However, if a program
> uses a configure script is there a prefered way of telling it that my
> target is an ARM platform? (If so what do I tell it for the platform
> type?). 

Assumed that you build on i[3456]86-linux, use:

  setenv CC arm-linux-gcc
  ./configure --target=arm-unknown-linux-gnu --host=i386-unknown-linux

Try "./configure --help" for more options.



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On Sun, 14 Nov 1999, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote:

> > LinLoader is GPL'd so there is an existence 
> > proof that RISC OS free software is possible.

Yes, or for a rather good example, the Straylight Source Release, at
Mark Wooding's site: <http://www.excessus.demon.co.uk/>.

> This lack of a standard diff/patch is /the problem/ and /the reason/ why it's
> not open-sourced.  If someone can show me a practical solution to this, then
> it will get open-sourced.  Until that time, it remains as is.

There's a port at <ftp://ftp.zap.uk.eu.org/pub/ds/GNU/diffutils.zip>

diffutils are trivial to port, even if someone else *hadn't* ported
them before (which someone has).

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On Sun, 14 Nov 1999, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote

> Any changes would have to be hand-patched
> into the sources since there is no diff/patch utility that I am aware of, which
> makes it impractical.

There are four options, all practical as I see it:

  * Maintain the source under local RCS (using the RISC OS RCS port);
  * Maintain the source under Tytgat's RISC OS CVS port;
  * Maintain the source under CVS under Linux, and edit the sources over
    NFS (my preferred option);
  * Use no revision control system and use diff/patch[1].

[1] There are many diffutils ports; the most recent AFAIAA is Darren Salt's,
  available at <ftp://ftp.zap.uk.eu.org/pub/ds/GNU/diffutils.zip>.

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On Sun 14 Nov, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote:
> Philip Blundell writes:
> > >The 2.3 CVS tree.

> This lack of a standard diff/patch is /the problem/ and /the reason/
> why it's not open-sourced.  If someone can show me a practical solution
> to this, then it will get open-sourced.  Until that time, it remains as
> is.

If it would help, I am happy to do the (admittedly tedious) manual
patching/maintaining of the RISCOS tools, to relieve Russell for more
important things.

> Also, it's worth noting that !Linux cannot be linked by the newer Acorn
> tools, since the AOF format has changed in non-backward compatable ways
> (which prevent the non-source distributable library which the programs
> link against linking).

Indeed, and in fact I can only compile some of the tools with the older
tools too, but that ought to be a solvable problem (given that it works
for Russell with a very similar toolset). Once I have solved that problem
I can usefully help maintain them.

The source is available from the FTP site so it is effectively
open-source although it is not GPLed.

> Basically, development on RISC OS is a mess, just like partitioning
> stuff on Acorn machines.

It's rather old-fashioned, but I wouldn't call it 'a mess'.

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>> I can transfer to / run on the ARM target[Brutus]. However, if a program
>> uses a configure script is there a prefered way of telling it that my
>> target is an ARM platform? (If so what do I tell it for the platform
>> type?). 
>
>Assumed that you build on i[3456]86-linux, use:
>
>  setenv CC arm-linux-gcc
>  ./configure --target=arm-unknown-linux-gnu --host=i386-unknown-linux

No.  `--target' is only meaningful for programs that write programs, in other 
words compilers and assemblers.  If you want to compile some random program to 
run on an ARM machine you need `CC=arm-linux-gcc ./configure 
arm-unknown-linux-gnu', with an option on `--build=..' if it needs extra clues 
that it's in a cross environment.

p.



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Gaixia wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I am trying to get a ramdisk for ARM-Linux on EBSA285. I ran into the
>following
>questions: What is the virtual address I should give to rd_start in the
>param page?
>and What is the physical address I should load the ramdisk image?
>
>How about initrd_start?
>
>I can only find 4200 0000 mapped to fe00 0000 and some others in
>hardware.h,
>Where could I get the related information for ramdisk?


I have the same problem, plus some others...

Where did you get your ramdisk image?

I can't remember where I got mine, only that I tried
ftp://ssdl-redstone.stanford.edu/pub/ramdisk.gz
unsuccessfully

My ARM-Linux kernel successfully mounts this ramdisk image as a NFS on
another machine, but then crashes when it tries to execute /sbin/init

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On Wed, 17 Nov 1999, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote:

> Chris Rutter writes:
> > [1] There are many diffutils ports; the most recent AFAIAA is Darren Salt's,
> >   available at <ftp://ftp.zap.uk.eu.org/pub/ds/GNU/diffutils.zip>.
> 
> You missed the patch end of it - diff is no good without patch.

No I didn't.  <ftp://ftp.zap.uk.eu.org/pub/ds/GNU/patch.zip>.  Notice
how it's a symlink to `diffutils.zip'.

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I have just got a linux kernel running on EBSA285
I wrote a small hexdump program to dump the contents of FLASH
I think that the FLASH on this board is at physical address 0x41000000 =
which maps to virtual address 0xd8000000.
My program causes a segmentation fault like this...

bash-2.01# flashdump 0x100000 0x100100

flashdump: permission fault on section, address=3D0xd8100000, code 3
flashdump: permission fault on section, address=3D0xd8100000, code 3
Segmentation fault
bash-2.01#

I thought that as root I would have access to system space.
What is the easiest way around the problem?

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>bash-2.01# flashdump 0x100000 0x100100</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>flashdump: permission fault on section, =
address=3D0xd8100000,=20
code 3<BR>flashdump: permission fault on section, address=3D0xd8100000, =
code=20
3<BR>Segmentation fault<BR>bash-2.01#</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>I thought that as root I would have =
access to=20
system space.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>What is the easiest way around the=20
problem?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Thanks for your continued support,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Paul Robertson<BR>LocSoft =
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> I thought that as root I would have access to system space.

No one gets access to system space directly.

> What is the easiest way around the problem?

open /dev/mem and mmap() the physical address.
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>I think that the FLASH on this board is at physical address 0x41000000
>which maps to virtual address 0xd8000000.

Only in kernel mode.  User programs aren't allowed to poke the hardware 
directly.

>What is the easiest way around the problem?

Use mmap on /dev/mem, or the flash285 driver.

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On Tue, Nov 23, 1999 at 10:27:40AM -0000, Paul Robertson wrote:  
> Now I would like to build my own filesystem from source.  
  
> Has anyone collected the sources together and/or written config scripts /     
> makefiles to simplify this process?    
       
 Perpaps the bootdisk-Howto is a starting point:        
	           
 http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Bootdisk-HOWTO.html 
 
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On Mon, 22 Nov 1999, Wim C. Timmer wrote:
> Maybe it's me, but when I try to download the armlinux stuff I can't
> connect to
> ftp://ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/armlinux/arch/rpc/tools/linux.arc
> Do I anything wrong or is the site down?

There doesn't seem to be anything wrong now:

[root@hyperspace /usr/src]# wget
ftp://ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/armlinux/arch/rpc/tools/linux.arc
--19:22:51--
ftp://ftp.arm.linux.org.uk:21/pub/armlinux/arch/rpc/tools/linux.arc
           => `linux.arc'
Connecting to ftp.arm.linux.org.uk:21... connected!
Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in!
==> TYPE I ... done.  ==> CWD pub/armlinux/arch/rpc/tools ... done.
==> PORT ... done.    ==> RETR linux.arc ... done.
Length: 45,891 (unauthoritative)

    0K -> .......... .......... .......... .......... ....       [100%]

19:23:00 (6.28 KB/s) - `linux.arc' saved [45891]

[root@hyperspace /usr/src]#

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Hi,

I'm trying to install ArmLinux onto my machine, and I'm coming up 
against a problem - I am getting the message 'HDE5 does not 
appear to contain the ArmLinux List Tree'

Let me just give a quick overview of the hardware

StrongArm + 64Meg RAM + RO4
APDL (ICS) IDE interface with 5 filecore partitions
3 partitions for Linux (swap, root and home) they come up as 
HDE6, 7 & 8

Initially, I was getting to the stage when the installer was asking for 
the drive containing the RedHat directory, I was getting drive 
failures which I could view on another console screen. I then 
realised that it probably didn't know about F+ format discs so 
reformatted the last partition to old filecore F format. This got be a 
bit further, but only up to the error. I'm following the instructions as 
per the web pages and am frankly lost. I have also assumed thet 
the RPMS are held in a (DOS) zip file, this zip file being in the 
directory RedHat. Or should the zip file (called RPMS) be in a 
directory called RPMS?

Any help would be gratefully recieved. Bear in mind that I'm a 
newbie, so need my hand holding a lot.

As an aside, once it's all going. Are there drivers for Castle SCSI 
cards yet? As my CD ROM is accessed through one it would be 
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Richard Austin

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Hello,

Maybe it's me, but when I try to download the armlinux stuff I can't
connect to

ftp://ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/armlinux/arch/rpc/tools/linux.arc

Do I anything wrong or is the site down?
I did try the webpages and three different ftp-clients with the
ANT-suite. Acorn SA-RiscPC. There are no problems with other sites.
What more can I do/try ?

Wim

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I have an ARM kernel running on EBSA285.
Currently it mounts a filesystem which I downloaded from the net as a =
ramdisk image.

Now I would like to build my own filesystem from source.

Has anyone collected the sources together and/or written config scripts =
/ makefiles to simplify this process?

Thanks.

Paul Robertson
LocSoft Limited
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Wim C. Timmer writes:
> Maybe it's me, but when I try to download the armlinux stuff I can't
> connect to
> 
> ftp://ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/armlinux/arch/rpc/tools/linux.arc

It wasn't you.  Unfortunately, the University of West England (where
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Richard Austin writes:
> per the web pages and am frankly lost. I have also assumed thet 
> the RPMS are held in a (DOS) zip file, this zip file being in the 
> directory RedHat. Or should the zip file (called RPMS) be in a 
> directory called RPMS?

RPMS is supposed to be a directory, which contains the .rpm files.
Have you read the "downloading" page, specifically the bit about
the directory tree for a local hard disk based install?
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Hello,

I'm trying to download the test programs that are available on 
Intels developer site and have some trouble with angelboot.

Downloading the programs to our Brutus card with Arm SDT 2.10
works fine.

Downloading with Angelboot does not work at all.
I include a verbose output of angelboot. 
i dowloaded angelboot from ftp://ftp.netwinder.org/users/n/nico/
and are running RedHat 5.2 on a PII host machine.

Any help/hints would be appreciated.

//Per B
perbo@pilotfish.net

---8<----SNIP---8<----------

#> angelboot/angelboot -v -f angelboot/opts.axf bounce.axf

serial device   = /dev/ttyS0
serial options  = 9600 8N1
baud rate       = 9600
image file      = bounce.axf
image size      = 0x00000000
image offset    = 0x00000000
base address    = 0x00008000
entry address   = 0xc0008000
r0              = 00000000
r1              = 00000000
r2              = 00000000
r3              = 00000000
other image file        = (null)
other image size        = 0x00000000
other base address      = 0x00000000
Negotiating...([2d] bytes in reply message)
Issuing 'ping'...([1c] bytes in reply message)
Issue reset...([20] bytes in reply message)
([4dd3] bytes in reply message)
Initialising execution environment.
Error: Received wrong # bytes (-19668) when expecting packet.Downloading
image size 0x30c4 to 0x8000
Error: Received wrong # bytes (-19668) when expecting packet..Error:
Received wrong # bytes (-19668) when expecting packet..Error: Received
wrong # bytes (-19668) when expecting packet..Error: Received wrong #
bytes (-19668) when expecting packet..Error: Received wrong # bytes
(-19668) when expecting packet..Error: Received wrong # bytes (-19668)
when expecting packet..Error: Received wrong # bytes (-19668) when
expecting packet..

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Would anyone be able to help me? I have just set up a server running
armlinux, and have got the booting with !Linux working (using native
kernel on *ADFS::4.3). Howver, there are two things I'm not sure about.
Firstly, how do I get !Linux to boot linux by default, instead of RiscOS?
Secondly, is there any way of rebooting without the system hanging after
the reboot (the cursor stops flashing and the computer stops responding)?

Thank you very much,

-- 
David Joy
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Hi,

Yes I've read the pages, over and over. It doesn't mention whether 
the RMPS held in the RedHat/RPMS directory are in a zip file or 
not. If not then all filenames will get truncated - is this OK. If in a 
zip file, so we don't lose filename info, what is the zip file called 
and where does it live. I have also got a base directory in RedHat 
containing the comps file. Is there anything else I should have?

Maybe the problem is that I'm using IDEFS (APDL) on a 13.6 Gb 
disc, attempting to install ArmLinux at then end of the disc - the 
last Gb or so, in partitions 6, 7 and 8. 

Thanks

Richard

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On Sat, 25 Dec 1999, Richard Austin wrote:

> Yes I've read the pages, over and over. It doesn't mention whether the
> RMPS held in the RedHat/RPMS directory are in a zip file or not. If not
> then all filenames will get truncated - is this OK. If in a zip file, so
> we don't lose filename info, what is the zip file called and where does
> it live. I have also got a base directory in RedHat containing the comps
> file. Is there anything else I should have? 

The trick with the RPMs is to download them and zip or tar them up on
something which can handle long filenames - e.g. a unix box. Put the zip
or tar on your IDEFS partition and then extract in a fashion similar to
that described on Paul Vigay's page for installing off the Clan CD. (i.e.
mount the adfs partition, and extract from there to RedHat/RPMS) N.B.
directory must be RPMS not RPMs which caught me out. 

A similar trick can be played with the other directories and files
required.

hth

John Joyce


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* Per Borgentun (Pilotfish) (perbo@pilotfish.net) [991124 18:22]:
> Hello,
> 
> I'm trying to download the test programs that are available on 
> Intels developer site and have some trouble with angelboot.
> 
> Downloading the programs to our Brutus card with Arm SDT 2.10
> works fine.
> 
> Downloading with Angelboot does not work at all.

  Well after increasing the MAXBUF size in angel_io.c to 1024 
  I was able to download the bounce.axf program but none of the 
  other test programs (tick.axf or keyboard.axf among others)
  They download ok but doesn't seem to start running.
  The only difference I can see is that bounce is smaller than
  16 kB and all the other are bigger than 16 kB but that shouln't
  be any problem or ?
  Have anyone experienced this before ?

 I include the opts file that I'm using.
 
//Per Borgentun  -  perbo@pilotfish.net

---8<-- angelboot opts-file  
base  0xc0008000
entry 0xc0008000
device /dev/ttyS0
options "9600 8N1"
baud 9600 

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Richard Austin writes:
> Yes I've read the pages, over and over. It doesn't mention whether 
> the RMPS held in the RedHat/RPMS directory are in a zip file or 
> not.

It most definitely does say exactly what to do.  I quote from the raw HTML
source:

       <dt>Local Hard Disk Partition
       <dd>You need to create a directory structure on the partition you wish to
        use.  It should be:<pre>
            RedHat
               RPMS
               RPMS-1
               RPMS-2
               ...
               RPMS-19
               base</pre>
        The names in each of the <tt>RPMS</tt> directories are irrelevent - they
        have to be unique in each directory however.<p>
        The <tt>RPMS</tt> directories contain the packages from the
        <a href="ftp://ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/armlinux/arch/rpc/install/RedHat/RPMS">RPMS</a>
        directory on the FTP site.  If a single RPMS directory is unable to hold
        the required packages, you may split them into the RPMS-1 through to RPMS-19
        directories.<p>

If this is not clear enough, please suggest improvements.
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John Joyce writes:
> The trick with the RPMs is to download them and zip or tar them up on
> something which can handle long filenames - e.g. a unix box. Put the zip
> or tar on your IDEFS partition and then extract in a fashion similar to
> that described on Paul Vigay's page for installing off the Clan CD. (i.e.
> mount the adfs partition, and extract from there to RedHat/RPMS) N.B.
> directory must be RPMS not RPMs which caught me out. 

Please note that the second stage installer has been re-written.  This is
no longer necessary.

All previous information related to weird and wonderful ways of getting
the RPMs to install should now no longer be applied to the new installer.
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Hi All,

Unfortunately, the machine which holds the other mailing lists and ftp
site has died again, and dispite attempting multiple reboots it will
not recover.

I am currently uncertain when the FTP site and mailing lists will be
back on line.  Please bear with it until this problem is resolved.
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Hello again,
after two days of trying to download linux with angelboot
I am stuck. The only program I am able to download is 'bounce.axf',
none of the other test programs wants to run after they have been 
downloaded (the led display still shows 3).

All test programs have successfully been downloaded with
ARM SDT 2.10 running WinNT.

Can someone please send me a 'stty < /dev/ttyS0' and a 
'setserial -a /dev/ttyS0' output after they
successfully have downloaded a program to the brutus board.
so that I can see thet it isnt't my serial port that has
wrong setup.

How (if possible) can I download the ramdisk-image with the
ARM SDT debugger, I have been able to download the linux
'Image' file (uncompressed) but it doesn't like the 
ramdisk file, and how do I specify the address to put the
ramdisk ? 

Thank you.
//Per Borgentun -  perbo@pilotfish.net

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On Fri, 26 Nov 1999, Per Borgentun wrote:

> Hello again,
> after two days of trying to download linux with angelboot
> I am stuck. The only program I am able to download is 'bounce.axf',
> none of the other test programs wants to run after they have been 
> downloaded (the led display still shows 3).

This maybe a bit obvious, but are you sure the swtiches on Brutus are set
properly? There is a mistake in the Intel documentation and swtich 14
should be NO DOT (DRAM). Note on a clean reset, the numeric LED display
shouldn't display anything.

Which ramdisk image are you using? The perfered one for Brutus I belive is
the one from Zsolt Kiraly. If you don't have this, I can send a working
ramdisk.gz & 2.2.12 kernel with sound and video support for Brutus; 
Nicolas P. has compiled a nice patch & script that makes compiling the
kernel for Brutus much easier (all the correct default options are choosen
and such by the script). Use the np12 patch, the np13 doesn't seem to
work (yet). 

> Can someone please send me a 'stty < /dev/ttyS0' and a 
> 'setserial -a /dev/ttyS0' output after they
> successfully have downloaded a program to the brutus board.
> so that I can see thet it isnt't my serial port that has
> wrong setup.

After bootstrapping my kernel and loading the ramdisk this is what I got.

stty on cua0 gave me:

speed 115200 baud; line = 0;
min = 32; time = 1;
ignbrk -brkint -icrnl ixoff -imaxbel
-opost
-isig -icanon -echo -echoe -echok

setserial gave me
 Line 0, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x03f8, IRQ: 4
	Baud_base: 115200, close_delay: 50, divisor: 0
	closing_wait: 3000, closing_wait2: infinte
	Flags: spd_normal skip_test

My Angelboot opts file is:

base 0x8000
entry 0xc0008020
device /dev/ttyS0
options "9600 8N1" 
baud 115200
otherfile ramdisk.gz
otherbase 0x800000 

My go script is:
#!/bin/sh

#arm-linuxaout-strip linux/vmlinux

angelboot/angelboot -f opts /home/dfer/armbuild/linux/arch/arm/boot/zImage

I used the Intel document for setting up my Brutus board for Linux

developer.intel.com/design/strong (application notes, Linux on the SA-1100
platform).

There was a mistake in setting up glibc I believe but it's correct for the
rest...

I can send my Angelboot program / my working Linux kernel / working
ramdisk.gz image if need be.

Check :
ftp://ssdl-redstone.stanford.edu/pub/ramdisk.gz for the Ramdisk image
that's I'm using / works well...


> 
> How (if possible) can I download the ramdisk-image with the
> ARM SDT debugger, I have been able to download the linux
> 'Image' file (uncompressed) but it doesn't like the 
> ramdisk file, and how do I specify the address to put the
> ramdisk ? 

If you find out, I'd like to know too.

Good luck and make sure Brutus doesn't betray you too =).

Vasant.


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In <URL:news:local.ArmLinux> on Mon 22 Nov, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote> 
> It wasn't you.  Unfortunately, the University of West England (where
> ftp.arm.linux.org.uk is located) seemed to have dropped of the rest of
> the net over the weekend.  Everything is back to normal as of 14:00 GMT
> today.

Thanks everyone, it works. Now, I have my first homemade kernel!
It was an adventure (for me) but it works.

Wim

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I'd like to use GDB for cross-debugging Linux applications on EBSA-285.

What "stub" is needed/recommended for the target?
Are there any guidelines on the net for configuring and building the GDB =
host. The host is a PC (x86)

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Paul Robertson
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On the target side, the debugging stub these three subroutines:
set_debug_traps;
handle_exception; breakpoint.

You need to provide:
    int getDebugChar();
    void putDebugChar(int);
    void exceptionHandler (int exception_number, void
*exception_address);
    void flush_i_cache();
    void *memset(void *, int, int).

You can check
ftp://ftp.netwinder.org/users/s/scottb/public_html/gdb/gdb_toc.html
for more info,

I am still wondering if there is someone really using gdb stub for
kernel/module
debugging on ARM?

Best wishes,
Gaixia

>I'd like to use GDB for cross-debugging Linux applications on EBSA-285.

>
>What "stub" is needed/recommended for the target?
>Are there any guidelines on the net for configuring and building the
GDB host.
>The host is a PC (x86)
>
>Thanks,
>
>Paul Robertson


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