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OK, I've given up trying to get it to run on an APDL IDE interface. 
I've now got an ADFS disc as well as APDL disc and it loads, 
boots and lets me in.

Next question. How to I start X windows? I've tried startx, but all I 
get is a small window with a console in it where I can type 
commands if the mouse pointer is over it. Am I missing something 
out here?

Thanks

Richard

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Has anybody managed to run ARMLinux on an RISC OS 4 equipped Risc PC?

I upgraded to RISC OS 4 and since then I'm not able to boot into Linux
anymore.

I'm using Timothy Baldwin's LinLoader 0.35 BTW.

But it shows a "unable to access medium" or "disc drive empty" message
whenever I start it with:

linloader <path_to_kernel_image>

What could be the problem? Are others running ARMLinux on RISC OS 4
without problems?

TIA.

Greetings,

Stefan.

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>What is the status of available binaries/rpms for this architecture? 
>In particular, how about  a.out versus ELF?

Debian has an ELF-based distribution that will run on ARMv3.  It's not quite 
complete but fairly usable.

p.



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Nicholas Clark writes:
> Am I right in thinking that Russell worked out a cunning fix
> that circumvents the K StrongARM bug on ARMLinux, from version
> 2.2.6 or thereabouts.  Is how it works documented anywhere?
> 
> Therefore, could the ARM BSD source be similarly patched, so
> that BSD users on K didn't have to upgrade [to T or to Linux :-)]?

Looking at all the emails here, it appears to be really confused.

1. The K StrongARM bug refers to the stm ^ with svc & user registers,
   and a certain cache state.

   This occurs very frequently if you use the instruction, and causes
   Linux to lock solid.  This has been solved a long long time ago
   (about 3 years ago) in both Linux 2.0 kernels and ARM *BSD kernels.

2. Suspected bug causing random SIGSEGVs.  I now believe this not to
   be a processor related bug, but some rare events which happen to
   co-incide in the kernel (now fixed in 2.2.13, hopefully, if I can
   have any feedback, please?).

Hence, for the last 3 years, there have been no additional fixes for
confirmed StrongARM processor bugs in the ARM Linux kernel.
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>Next question. How to I start X windows? I've tried startx, but all I 
>get is a small window with a console in it where I can type 
>commands if the mouse pointer is over it. Am I missing something 
>out here?

Sounds like you successfully started X to me.  What were you expecting?

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Hi,

After some experimentation, I finallly got ArmLinux to install and 
everything. The only problem now is that I can't boot into it because 
I've got and ICS/APDL IDE interface. Is there any way around this 
at all? Boot from floppy?

Also, is there anyway of disabling the tests for HDA and HDB when 
going through an install. As I don't have any ADFS drives, it sits 
there for ages trying to communcate with non existant drives - long 
enough to make a cup of tea!

Richard Austin

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>Also, is there anyway of disabling the tests for HDA and HDB when 
>going through an install. As I don't have any ADFS drives, it sits 

You could try `hda=none hdb=none' at the kernel command line. 

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Am I right in thinking that Russell worked out a cunning fix that circumvents
the K StrongARM bug on ARMLinux, from version 2.2.6 or thereabouts.
Is how it works documented anywhere?

Therefore, could the ARM BSD source be similarly patched, so that BSD users on
K didn't have to upgrade [to T or to Linux :-)]?

Nick
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On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, Angelo Melis wrote:

> Some time ago I installed NetBSD-arm32 1.4.1 on my RISC PC and after some
> trouble with the install kernel I got it installed. And it works OK. I even
> have access to the internet throu the Atomwide serial card.
> 
> But this weekend I tried to compile some stuff I downloaded and got some
> problems. the compiler crashed with a signal 11 (????) and core-dumped.
> Sometimes cc1 and sometimes cpp crashed. After deleting the coredump and
> restarting the make process ... it all worked.
> 
> Today I tried to update some packages on my system and noticed the same
> problems. But it is not only cc1 or cpp, but also pkg_delete or some other
> program crashes with a signal 11.
> 
> My question is ... what is signal 11 ? And how can I make sure that this
> doesn't keep happening, because it is annoying.

This sounds like a revision J or K StrongARM SA-110. There is a bug in
these that can lead to problems like this.

In order to solve this, you have to upgrade your SA-110 to revison S
or T, something that Simtec can do for GBP 100. See an earlier article
regarding this.

Another way to solve it, would be to replace your SA-110 with an
ARM610 or ARM710, but this would of course degrade performance.

There are ways to code around this problem, but they are too complex
for anyone to have done anything about this.

To figure out which revision your SA-110 is, just look at the dmesg
output, or check the letter on the physical chip. My revision K claims
that it is revision 2, so you need one that is newer than that.

This whole problem was discussed in great detail a year or two ago,
so if you check the mailing list archive, you will be able to get
more details.

> Secondly ... after booting ... I get an error from kvm_read (?) with an
> illegal address (0x0). Is this something I must worry about ? Is it connected
> to the core dump problem ?

It may be, but I don't know.

Kjetil B.
mailto:kjetil@thomassen.priv.no
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On Tue, Nov 30, 1999 at 07:29:04PM -0000, Richard Austin wrote:
> Next question. How to I start X windows? I've tried startx, but all I 
> get is a small window with a console in it where I can type 
> commands if the mouse pointer is over it. Am I missing something 
> out here?

No, you're right there. Welcome to X11. :-)
But I think you should install a windowmanager like fvwm2, or any
other you like to make it more usable, configurable and looking
nicer.. ;-)

Hope it helps,
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>1. The K StrongARM bug refers to the stm ^ with svc & user registers,
>   and a certain cache state.

Isn't there also a revision K bug relating to LDM at the end of a page?

>2. Suspected bug causing random SIGSEGVs.  I now believe this not to
>   be a processor related bug, but some rare events which happen to
>   co-incide in the kernel (now fixed in 2.2.13, hopefully, if I can
>   have any feedback, please?).

What events were these?

p.



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	Just do complicate things there is also a bug (at least thats the
only answer I can come up with) with the ldm ^, I've hit this on the
SA-110 and the SA-1100 (However I haven't noticed the reported stm ^ bug).
The bug is the following:

The sequence: ldmfd   r0, {sp, pc}^ 
	doesn't work (I think we found it was unstacking to the svc_sp not
the user_sp, r0 is the kernel stack)

The sequence: ldmfd   r0!, {sp}^
              ldmfd   r0, {pc}^
	Does work (BTW does anyone know how many cycles this sequence
takes the SA-110 Instruction timming app note doens't mention the timming
of ldm^ with the pc as a target).

	I'm pretty sure this is a silicon bug, since the two sequences
should result in the same behaviour (AFAIK from the ARM ARM).

	Cheers Adam


On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, Russell King - ARM Linux Admin wrote:

> Nicholas Clark writes:
> > Am I right in thinking that Russell worked out a cunning fix
> > that circumvents the K StrongARM bug on ARMLinux, from version
> > 2.2.6 or thereabouts.  Is how it works documented anywhere?
> > 
> > Therefore, could the ARM BSD source be similarly patched, so
> > that BSD users on K didn't have to upgrade [to T or to Linux :-)]?
> 
> Looking at all the emails here, it appears to be really confused.
> 
> 1. The K StrongARM bug refers to the stm ^ with svc & user registers,
>    and a certain cache state.
> 
>    This occurs very frequently if you use the instruction, and causes
>    Linux to lock solid.  This has been solved a long long time ago
>    (about 3 years ago) in both Linux 2.0 kernels and ARM *BSD kernels.
> 
> 2. Suspected bug causing random SIGSEGVs.  I now believe this not to
>    be a processor related bug, but some rare events which happen to
>    co-incide in the kernel (now fixed in 2.2.13, hopefully, if I can
>    have any feedback, please?).
> 
> Hence, for the last 3 years, there have been no additional fixes for
> confirmed StrongARM processor bugs in the ARM Linux kernel.
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Dear all,

I have a Psion Series 5 with a booting linux-kernel, and have
cross-compiled glibc-2.1.2 and a few test programs for it on a i386-linux
machine. As far as I know the relevant architecture is  armv3-linux.

Now my question is:

What is the status of available binaries/rpms for this architecture? 
In particular, how about  a.out versus ELF?

As far as I can see, the website www.arm.linux.org.uk and related links
point almost solely to a.out binaries. The only ELF rpms I could find
were hidden away in 
ftp://ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/armlinux/people/chris/rpms/

The only other ELF binaries I've found so far are in the flatcap(-lite)
initrd for the linux7k (Psion Series 5, Geofox,..) project
(www.calcaria.net). Have I missed something?

If I would like to have a fully ELF-based system, what would be the best
way to go about building that?
 
I'm rather new to this list, please forgive me if these are outdated
questions.

TIA

Klaasjan.


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Could the person who sent me an email from 'root@localhost.localdomain'
please use a real address and resend the original mail please?  (the
mail passed via cgowave-84-29.cgocable.net).
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Philip Blundell writes:
> Isn't there also a revision K bug relating to LDM at the end of a page?

Yes.  Looking back at the previous threads, the last email on the subject
(message id 9e137d6848%tim@reinhouse.demon.co.uk) suggested a couple of
fixes, neither to my knowledge got implemented.
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Subject: Re: Linux installation
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Date:   Tue, 30 Nov 1999 19:37:58 +0000 (GMT)
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Richard Austin writes:
> Also, is there anyway of disabling the tests for HDA and HDB when 
> going through an install. As I don't have any ADFS drives, it sits 
> there for ages trying to communcate with non existant drives - long 
> enough to make a cup of tea!

This doesn't sound correct.  Could you exactly where this long pause
happens please?

I'd rather not have someone suggest "just supply this argument to the
kernel and it'll fix it" type solution, but I'd prefer a more correct
long term solution.
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On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, Richard Austin wrote:

> OK, I've given up trying to get it to run on an APDL IDE interface. 
> I've now got an ADFS disc as well as APDL disc and it loads, 
> boots and lets me in.

Meant to reply to the last mail. You need to type
root=/dev/hdc3 hda=none hdb=none
(or similar) at the 'Enter extra arguments:' prompt when booting linux.
hda=none hdb=none tells it not to bother scanning the internal IDE
interface. hdc through hdf are the drives on the APDL interface.

I've had it boot off the APDL interface just fine.

When you get into X, perhaps you want something like
twm&
to get a window manager?

hth

John Joyce


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>Am I right in thinking that Russell worked out a cunning fix that circumvents
>the K StrongARM bug on ARMLinux, from version 2.2.6 or thereabouts.

Not as far as I know.  I think the K bug results in irrecoverable corruption.

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On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, Philip Blundell wrote:

> >Next question. How to I start X windows? I've tried startx, but all I 
> >get is a small window with a console in it where I can type 
> >commands if the mouse pointer is over it. Am I missing something 
> >out here?
> 
> Sounds like you successfully started X to me.  What were you expecting?
> 
> p.
> 

I think you are missing a window manager. Type the command

fvwm &

at the console window. That should give you control over the windows on
your
desktop.

Marcus
 
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  Hello all.

  I have been given the task of locating any information on the "linux" system that  can
be used on a development board for the Samsung KS32C50100A.
   If anyone can point me to a starting point, I would appreciate it greatly.

  this is a very nice part for anyone needing ethernet capability(10/100) and ARM7 cpu,
with dram controller, all on one chip.
 For around $20.00(us) @ 50Mhz.

    Any help out there.


       Just a pointer in the right direction.

              Ralph




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I just took a quick look at:

http://www.usa.samsungsemi.com/products/prodspec/microcon/KS32C5000/325000ov.htm

That part appears to be a microcontroller without an MMU.  That is going
to make life very difficult for you.  I won't say impossible, as Ken did
get uClinux running...  :)

- Ben.

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On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, Ralph Garvin wrote:

>   I have been given the task of locating any information on the "linux" system that  can
> be used on a development board for the Samsung KS32C50100A.
>    If anyone can point me to a starting point, I would appreciate it greatly.
> 
>   this is a very nice part for anyone needing ethernet capability(10/100) and ARM7 cpu,
> with dram controller, all on one chip.
>  For around $20.00(us) @ 50Mhz.
> 


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I'm sorry to be asking such a newbie question, but where can I learn more
about the MMU requirements the linux kernel has?

Also, what source files / information resources can I use for my starting
point if I wanted to attempt to host it on a non MMU ARM7 variant?

--mgross

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I just took a quick look at:

http://www.usa.samsungsemi.com/products/prodspec/microcon/KS32C5000/325000ov
.htm

That part appears to be a microcontroller without an MMU.  That is going
to make life very difficult for you.  I won't say impossible, as Ken did
get uClinux running...  :)

- Ben.

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On Thu, 2 Dec 1999, Ralph Garvin wrote:

>   I have been given the task of locating any information on the "linux"
system that  can
> be used on a development board for the Samsung KS32C50100A.
>    If anyone can point me to a starting point, I would appreciate it
greatly.
> 
>   this is a very nice part for anyone needing ethernet capability(10/100)
and ARM7 cpu,
> with dram controller, all on one chip.
>  For around $20.00(us) @ 50Mhz.
> 


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In that finely crafted message <49693b14f1sbellon@sbellon.de>
         Stefan Bellon <sbellon@sbellon.de> wrote::

> Has anybody managed to run ARMLinux on an RISC OS 4 equipped Risc PC?
> 
> I upgraded to RISC OS 4 and since then I'm not able to boot into Linux
> anymore.
> 
> I'm using Timothy Baldwin's LinLoader 0.35 BTW.
> 
> But it shows a "unable to access medium" or "disc drive empty" message
> whenever I start it with:
> 
> linloader <path_to_kernel_image>
> 
> What could be the problem? Are others running ARMLinux on RISC OS 4
> without problems?

Yesterday I managed to boot my system for the first time since my RISC OS 4
upgrade.  This is the Obey file I used:
  X RMKill ZipFS
  <Obey$Dir>.!Linux.SetModeNew
  Linloader ADFS::4.$.vmlinux root=/dev/hda3

You need to tell Linloader where to find the root partition.  In my case it
is partition 3 of the first hard disc.

-- 
Stephen Watson <URL:http://www.kerofin.demon.co.uk/> Glorantha & RISC OS
"Have you ever felt the rain before it falls?  Have you ever sensed the 
 storm before arrives on the horizon?  I don't think so."

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In article <c971936a49.stephen@kerofin.demon.co.uk>,
   Stephen Watson <stephen@kerofin.demon.co.uk> wrote:

[snip]

> Yesterday I managed to boot my system for the first time since my
> RISC OS 4 upgrade.  This is the Obey file I used:
>   X RMKill ZipFS
>   <Obey$Dir>.!Linux.SetModeNew
>   Linloader ADFS::4.$.vmlinux root=/dev/hda3

> You need to tell Linloader where to find the root partition.  In my
> case it is partition 3 of the first hard disc.

Thanks a lot for your help!

In the meantime somebody pointed out to me that the latest version of
the !Linux application does work with RISC OS 4. And indeed, it does!
So I'm back using that. :-)

Greetings,

Stefan.

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On Fri, 3 Dec 1999, Gross, Mark wrote:

> I'm sorry to be asking such a newbie question, but where can I learn more
> about the MMU requirements the linux kernel has?

Any book about Unix internals will explain virtual memory, memory
protection schemes etc.  You need the basic concepts before worrying about
Linux specifics.  Then you should look in linux/arch/arm/mm/.

> Also, what source files / information resources can I use for my starting
> point if I wanted to attempt to host it on a non MMU ARM7 variant?

If you know the ARM architecture really really well and and you really
really know what you're doing and have plenty of time to spend on it, you
could start by looking at uClinux:

	http://www.uclinux.org

This is a port of an older Linux kernel to the m68k Dragonball, which has
no MMU.  I've seen the demo and it's real, and very bizarre.  In fact the
Windoze laptop that Ken was using as a serial terminal crashed during the
demo, but Linux was still running happily on the PalmPilot by the time he
rebooted the laptop.  But I digress.

Anyway, my friendly advice would be to go bookshopping first.  :)

- Ben.

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Back in April we had a discussion about problems with the memory area used for 
I/O operations being mapped with caching enabled.  Here's an extract from one 
of my posts about this issue:

>The way ioperm works on the ARM is that we open /dev/mem and mmap the 
>appropriate range to get access to the ISA ports, then use mprotect to turn 
>individual pages on and off to give at least some semblance of individual 
>access control.  This was actually inherited from the Alpha port.
>
>Now, the problem is that if you call mprotect(PROT_READ) this 
>ends up being translated to a protection value of PAGE_READONLY (via the 
>protection_map[] stuff).  And, surprise, PAGE_READONLY is actually
>PTE_TYPE_SMALL | PTE_YOUNG | PTE_CACHEABLE.  Oops.

Now, at the time this sparked the effort that led to separating the Linux 
pagetables from those actually used by the hardware.  But I'm starting to 
doubt that the original problem was actually fixed.  As far as I can tell, 
the protection value you give to mprotect() is always translated through 
protection_map[], and all the relevant values in that table seem to include 
PTE_CACHEABLE.

I haven't done a great deal more investigation than that, yet.  Does anybody 
else have any thoughts?  (What started me looking is that isapnp has stopped 
working again on my machine.)

p.



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Philip Blundell writes:
> >The way ioperm works on the ARM is that we open /dev/mem and mmap the 
> >appropriate range to get access to the ISA ports, then use mprotect to turn 
> >individual pages on and off to give at least some semblance of individual 
> >access control.  This was actually inherited from the Alpha port.
> >
> >Now, the problem is that if you call mprotect(PROT_READ) this 
> >ends up being translated to a protection value of PAGE_READONLY (via the 
> >protection_map[] stuff).  And, surprise, PAGE_READONLY is actually
> >PTE_TYPE_SMALL | PTE_YOUNG | PTE_CACHEABLE.  Oops.
> 
> Now, at the time this sparked the effort that led to separating the Linux 
> pagetables from those actually used by the hardware.

No, wrong reason.  The page tables were separated for the SA-1100 guys, since
the cacheable and bufferable bits have other meanings, and we ran out of bits
in the pte's to represent everything that Linux needed.  Therefore, we ended up
with "Linux" ptes and "hardware" ptes.

This fix in no way affects the above.

btw, all /dev/mem mmaps() are handled by mmap_mem, which itself disables caching.

> I haven't done a great deal more investigation than that, yet.  Does anybody 
> else have any thoughts?  (What started me looking is that isapnp has stopped 
> working again on my machine.)

Are you using the kernel isapnp, or the user tool?
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>btw, all /dev/mem mmaps() are handled by mmap_mem, which itself disables 
>caching.

Yes; the problem is that mprotect() turns it on again.

>Are you using the kernel isapnp, or the user tool?

User.  The bug affects anything that uses inb, outb and so on.

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Philip Blundell writes:
> >btw, all /dev/mem mmaps() are handled by mmap_mem, which itself disables 
> >caching.
> 
> Yes; the problem is that mprotect() turns it on again.
> 
> >Are you using the kernel isapnp, or the user tool?
> 
> User.  The bug affects anything that uses inb, outb and so on.

btw, any particular kernels exhibit or don't exhibit this behaviour?

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>btw, any particular kernels exhibit or don't exhibit this behaviour?

I imagine all kernels exhibit it.  Right now I'm testing with 2.3.29.

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Philip Blundell writes:
> >btw, any particular kernels exhibit or don't exhibit this behaviour?
> 
> I imagine all kernels exhibit it.  Right now I'm testing with 2.3.29.

Indeed.  You mentioned that it has worked.  Can you give me a version of
the kernel where it did work?
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>Indeed.  You mentioned that it has worked.  Can you give me a version of
>the kernel where it did work?

No; I don't think it has ever worked.  At one point I had a workaround for 
this in libc and it probably stopped working when that was taken out.

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Has anyone modified the Russell King bios to support
the DEC 21143 chip set?

If so can you send the source or tell me what changes
were made to support it?  

I have made the following modifications to dec21041.c
but it never gets past the wait for the board to
respond to initialization.  

nd_21041_probe
Change lookup to find device ID 0x0019 

nd_21041_open 
Change Register initialization per Table 3-100 in the
21143 manual as follows:
Reg.	21041		21143
CSR0	0x5006		0x5006
CSR7	0x0000		0x0
CSR13	0x0000		0x0
CSR14	0xf7fd		0xffff
CSR15	0x0006		0x0008
CSR13	0xef09		0xe0001
CSR6	0x8002e000	0x8202e000

There may be an issue with the CFDD (0x40) Register
(called CFDA in the 21041 manual) to wake up the chip.
 I tried doing this in a couple places with a 1 second
wait for it to finish, with no effect.

Ideas are also appreciated.

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	Hi!

	I'm newbie to setup ebsa285 for running linux. I've bought Ebsa285
a few
	days ago. And I'm trying to install some image to ebsa285 b/d.
	It will be appreciated to your any answer...
	
	What's the tool for programming flash memory in Ebsa285 in linux?
How about angelboot?
	
	Any help will be appreciated..



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I have an RPC 600 with ARMLinux installed but I am having trouble 
Telnetting to it from another RPC using ANTterm 0.79.

I get the following error almost immediately after pressing connect.

antterm: Port is 23/telnet
antterm: Trying to connect...
antterm: Connect failed (22/Invalid argument)
antterm: Disconnected

The ARMLinuxRPC has 
Red Hat Linux release 3.03
Kernel 2.0.36 on an arm610

During the boot sequence I get the following message.

syslogd:memory violation at pc=0x00008d38 lr=0x60c171c8 
(bad address = 0x00000000, code 3)

Is this related? It appears at different times towards the end of the boot 
up sequence.

I didn't do the installation and this is all new to me. 
I can find my way around (just) and can use vi 

I have gone through the following files to setup TCPIP using vi.

vi /etc/sysconfig/network

vi /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0

vi /etc/HOSTNAME

vi /etc/hosts.allow

vi /ect/hosts.deny

I have also looked in 

/etc/inetd.conf and the telnet stream is not remed # out.

The HOWTO docs are not on the Linux HD so I looked for help on
a Red Hat 5.2 CD unfortunately the Net-3-HO file refers to files
that do not appear to be there.
Also I have a book called Running Linux by Walsh and Kaufman and that
has not helped much.

This is an early Chistmas game of "Give Us a Clue" so could anyone
help?

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On Thu, Dec 09, 1999 at 07:01:43PM +0000, Paul C.Robinson wrote:
> I have an RPC 600 with ARMLinux installed but I am having trouble 
> Telnetting to it from another RPC using ANTterm 0.79.
> 
> I get the following error almost immediately after pressing connect.
> 
> antterm: Port is 23/telnet
> antterm: Trying to connect...
> antterm: Connect failed (22/Invalid argument)
> antterm: Disconnected

Is your network-card configured ? Can you ping to the Risc-OS machine
?

Try finding some eh0,ea0 or something similar in hte output of
'ifconfig' or 'ifconfig -a'.

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In message <Marcel-1.53-1209190143-0b0h+Ty@havaccnt.demon.co.uk>
          "Paul C.Robinson" <Paul@havaccnt.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> I have an RPC 600 with ARMLinux installed but I am having trouble 
> Telnetting to it from another RPC using ANTterm 0.79.
> 
> I get the following error almost immediately after pressing connect.
> 
> antterm: Port is 23/telnet
> antterm: Trying to connect...
> antterm: Connect failed (22/Invalid argument)
> antterm: Disconnected

That message [Connect failed (Invalid argument)] occurs in at least
the following two circumstances:

The host name was resolved okay, but the host failed to respond to
the connection attempt. - in this case the message will appear after a
significant time-out period (60 or 100 seconds?).

The host rejected the connection attempt, possible because there is
nothing on port 23 (no telnet server). - in this case the message does
appear almost instantaneously.

I am not familiar with the Linux side, so I can't offer any more
advice, but I hope that this helps in some small way.

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To: peter@foursqre.demon.co.uk (Peter Bell)
Date:   Fri, 10 Dec 1999 07:36:27 +0000 (GMT)
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Peter Bell writes:
> I am not familiar with the Linux side, so I can't offer any more
> advice, but I hope that this helps in some small way.

If you do a 'netstat -a' on the Linux machine, check for a line
containing either

tcp	0	0	*:23		*:*	Listen

or

tcp	0	0	*:telnet	*:*	Listen

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James Kim writes:
> I'm newbie to setup ebsa285 for running linux. I've bought Ebsa285 a few
> days ago. And I'm trying to install some image to ebsa285 b/d.
> It will be appreciated to your any answer...
> 	
> What's the tool for programming flash memory in Ebsa285 in linux?

It's called 'fmu', and there should be two versions IIRC.  One should
allow you to program the flash over the serial port via Angel, the other
should allow you to program the flash with the board in a PC.

You may want to investigate the EBSA285 BIOS on the ARM Linux FTP site -
it is designed to be programmed into the flash.

> How about angelboot?

That's slow.
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I have been having trouble getting my RiscPC (SA) to connect to the Internet.
I have tried using PPP from control-panel and I have also been experimenting
with several dialup programs, none of which works.  What have other people
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Hi,

Has anyone attempted running Linux on an ARM micro w/o MMU, similar to the
uClinux Moto port?

Thanks,
Kyle Harris
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In article <199910311656.QAA28855@raistlin.arm.linux.org.uk>,
   Russell King - ARM Linux Admin <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> wrote:

> 2. From time to time, I have been asking a certain well-known magazine
>    publisher in the old Acorn market about their interest in Linux.  It
>    appears that they do not see ARM Linux as something that is worthy
>    of their magazine.  They said that Linux was just "a small minority
>    of people making a lot of noise."  Does the ARM Linux (Acorn)
>    community have any reaction to that?

Assuming the publisher in question was talking about ARM Linux, then I
would take severe issue with 'a lot of noise', and suggest 'an occasional
squeak' would be a better description. Very few people are talking about
ARM Linux, and those that are are in general not talking about it on
currently produced RISC OS-based machines. And I should know, because I'm
one of the few people who's doing the talking in the 'mainstream' Acorn
market.

>    The reaction should take into account whether you think that there
>    should be some sort of magazine article about Linux, and if so, who
>    should write it up.  I'll say "Not Me" now, before anyone gets any
>    ideas. ;)

Been there, done that. Offered it to Acorn User, Steve Turnbull said 'no':
offered it to Risc User, Mark Moxon said 'yes'.

Ten issues later I'm now getting out of my depth. I simply don't have the
time to learn ARM Linux well enough to write interesting and useful
articles about the details of it. Which is a pity, as I'm just starting up
a CD-ROM-based magazine with David Holden of APDL which I'd like to
include an ARM Linux column. If anyone - and I'm possibly looking in
Chris's direction here - would like to do a technical series on ARM Linux
(for an audience of Risc PC owners, not EBSA boards) I'd love to hear from
you.

-- 
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On Mon, 13 Dec 1999, David Matthewman wrote:

> If anyone - and I'm possibly looking in
> Chris's direction here - would like to do a technical series on ARM Linux
> (for an audience of Risc PC owners, not EBSA boards) I'd love to hear from
> you.

Er, me?  All right, I suppose so.

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Hi,

Has anyone used the SA1110 yet? My understanding is that Intel has had some
production problems with the SA1100 and are advocating going to the SA1110.
Can anyone confirm this? Should a kernel built for the SA1100 run on the new
SA1110?

Thanks,
Kyle Harris
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On Mon, 13 Dec 1999, Kyle Harris wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Has anyone used the SA1110 yet? My understanding is that Intel has had some
> production problems with the SA1100 and are advocating going to the SA1110.
> Can anyone confirm this? Should a kernel built for the SA1100 run on the new
> SA1110?

	It seems the USB slave error on the SA-1100 will never be fixed.
They say it works if its the 'only' client on the USB bus. There are also
a lot of other little problems with some of the peripherals.

	Cheers Adam


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On Mon, 13 Dec 1999, Kyle Harris wrote:

> Has anyone used the SA1110 yet? My understanding is that Intel has had some
> production problems with the SA1100 and are advocating going to the SA1110.
> Can anyone confirm this? Should a kernel built for the SA1100 run on the new
> SA1110?

Theorically, yes.



Nicolas


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Hi,

  I have used SA1100, no major problems. What kind of problems did
you hear were in the SA1100?

Bob Kondner




Nicolas Pitre wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 13 Dec 1999, Kyle Harris wrote:
> 
> > Has anyone used the SA1110 yet? My understanding is that Intel has had some
> > production problems with the SA1100 and are advocating going to the SA1110.
> > Can anyone confirm this? Should a kernel built for the SA1100 run on the new
> > SA1110?
> 
> Theorically, yes.
> 
> Nicolas
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On Tue, 14 Dec 1999, Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins wrote:
> 
> 	It seems the USB slave error on the SA-1100 will never be fixed.
> They say it works if its the 'only' client on the USB bus. There are also
> a lot of other little problems with some of the peripherals.

Can you elaborate on these errors or is this just stuff covered in the
errata?

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> On Tue, 14 Dec 1999, Adam 'WeirdArms' Wiggins wrote:
> >
> > It seems the USB slave error on the SA-1100 will never be fixed.
> > They say it works if its the 'only' client on the USB bus. There are
also
> > a lot of other little problems with some of the peripherals.
>
> Can you elaborate on these errors or is this just stuff covered in the
> errata?
>

What I'm hearing is that Intel is having production problems. So, it's not
so much bugs in the product (like USB problems) as simply being unable to
ship product due to low yields. The local sales rep claims the SA1100 is
very scarce. He also says the SA1110 costs less than the SA1100.


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Does anyone have any information on the possibility of a driver for the
SA1110 USB device or any driver software developed for the USB device on the
SA1100? 
Steve

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On Tue, 14 Dec 1999 09:25:22 -0500
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> What I'm hearing is that Intel is having production problems. So, it's not
> so much bugs in the product (like USB problems) as simply being unable to
> ship product due to low yields. The local sales rep claims the SA1100 is

But, I heard that VxWorks already ported to SA1110.

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Today, I just got a sa-1100 evaluation board. I want
to  run armlinux on it , and to run GUI application
like internet brower on it. I have a ARM Software
Development Toolkit v2.50 Evaluation Version and one
book , arm architecture reference manual.

To setup a development ,debug and running enviroment,
what do I need and where to start?

Thanks.




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On Wed, 15 Dec 1999, wolf wrote:

> Today, I just got a sa-1100 evaluation board. I want
> to  run armlinux on it , and to run GUI application
> like internet brower on it. I have a ARM Software
> Development Toolkit v2.50 Evaluation Version and one
> book , arm architecture reference manual.
> 
> To setup a development ,debug and running enviroment,
> what do I need and where to start?


http://developer.intel.com/design/strong/applnots/sa1100lx/getstart.htm


Nicolas



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Recently, I decided to install the latest version of rpm, using the source
from ftp.rpm.org in tar.gz format.  However, when I try to "make rpm", I get
the following messages:-

bsdtime.o(.data+0x0): multiple definition of `tzname'
localtime.o(.data+0x4c): first defined here
bsdtime.o(.text+0x1290): multiple definition of `tzset'
localtime.o(.text+0x12b0): first defined here
bsdtime.o(.text+0x14ac): multiple definition of `localtime'
localtime.o(.text+0x14b0): first defined here
bsdtime.o(.text+0x1528): multiple definition of `gmtime'
localtime.o(.text+0x1538): first defined here
bsdtime.o(.text+0x18f0): multiple definition of `asctime'
asctime.o(.text+0x6c): first defined here
bsdtime.o(.text+0x1968): multiple definition of `ctime'
localtime.o(.text+0x18b8): first defined here
bsdtime.o(.text+0x1fd8): multiple definition of `mktime'
localtime.o(.text+0x2018): first defined here

This looks to me like a conflict in the C library.  Please could someone 
tell me what is going on and, if possible, how to fix it.

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Hi All,

I am hoping someone can shed some light on a problem I am having.  I
am trying to use bios V1.06 to download load a kernel via the serial
port.
I am not having any success.  Could some tell if they have used serial
download
sucessfully and what process they used.

--Dirk


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On Wed, Dec 15, 1999 at 04:52:25PM -0800, Dave Borja wrote:
> Hi, Guys,
> 
> I have a problem with pppd support on our brutus board. When I try to run pppd, it
> told me that can't find a library named libcrypt.so.1.  Actually, I have copy this library
> to ramdisk. what are happening. Thanks for help.

You should copy it to the /lib-directory, that should help.

-- 
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    You need to run 'ldconfig' so that ld.so can find the newly added shared
libraries.

>I have a problem with pppd support on our brutus board. When I try to run
>pppd, it told me that can't find a library named libcrypt.so.1.  Actually,
I have >copy this library
>to ramdisk. what are happening. Thanks for help.



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Dirk Brandewie writes:
> I am hoping someone can shed some light on a problem I am having.  I
> am trying to use bios V1.06 to download load a kernel via the serial
> port.
> I am not having any success.  Could some tell if they have used serial
> download sucessfully and what process they used.

On Dec 1st, Nicolas Pitre posted a patch for the serial download to BIOS
1.06.  You probably need to apply this patch.
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Hi,
reading the thread "SA1110" someone talk about and error in SA1100 USB.

>
>         It seems the USB slave error on the SA-1100 will never be fixed.
> They say it works if its the 'only' client on the USB bus. There are also
> a lot of other little problems with some of the peripherals.
>
>         Cheers Adam

Please tell me what you mean with "if its the 'only' client on the USB bus".
Do it means that you can only connect devices in the master or you can only
connect one device in the slave?

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On Thu, 16 Dec 1999, Gluck wrote:

> Hi,
> reading the thread "SA1110" someone talk about and error in SA1100 USB.
> 
> >
> >         It seems the USB slave error on the SA-1100 will never be fixed.
> > They say it works if its the 'only' client on the USB bus. There are also
> > a lot of other little problems with some of the peripherals.
> >
> >         Cheers Adam
> 
> Please tell me what you mean with "if its the 'only' client on the USB bus".
> Do it means that you can only connect devices in the master or you can only
> connect one device in the slave?

	As far as I know basically it means the SA-1100 can be the only
USB client on the bus so you only get to link the SA-1100 to your PC. Its
covered in the SA-1100 errata documentation refere to it for first hand
information.

	Cheers Adam


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Hi,

 I saw that RAMDISC trouble lasting from 2.3.28 at
kernel-newsflash. It adapted to arm ?

Regards;

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Hi

When I build angel image using Arm SDT 2.11a & Ebsa 285 1.05, I've met some
error message because of missing taskmacs.s.
Where can I get it?
I need your help...

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Hi all,
I'm going to buy the Intel SA-1100 Multimedia Development Board and the
SA-1101 Companion Board. I'd like to know if there is anyone running
linux on this board and any related problem.

Thanks
	Gianluca Carcassi


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On Fri, 17 Dec 1999, Gianluca Carcassi wrote:

> 
> Hi all,
> I'm going to buy the Intel SA-1100 Multimedia Development Board and the
> SA-1101 Companion Board. I'd like to know if there is anyone running
> linux on this board and any related problem.

Linux runs on the SA1100 evaluation board named Brutus and some other
implementations.  As a minimum, any SA1100 implementation should be able
to boot Linux on a ramdisk with serial console support without much
trouble.  Look at the following locations for details and patches:

http://developer.intel.com/design/strong/applnots/sa1100lx/getstart.htm
ftp://ftp.netwinder.org/users/n/nico


Nicolas


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Hi,

  I can probably get a "Graphics Client" Board for you if someone is
interested in porting Linux. 

Check out http://www.flatpanels.com/GraphicsClient.html

Bob Kondner

Nicolas Pitre wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 17 Dec 1999, Gianluca Carcassi wrote:
> 
> >
> > Hi all,
> > I'm going to buy the Intel SA-1100 Multimedia Development Board and the
> > SA-1101 Companion Board. I'd like to know if there is anyone running
> > linux on this board and any related problem.
> 
> Linux runs on the SA1100 evaluation board named Brutus and some other
> implementations.  As a minimum, any SA1100 implementation should be able
> to boot Linux on a ramdisk with serial console support without much
> trouble.  Look at the following locations for details and patches:
> 
> http://developer.intel.com/design/strong/applnots/sa1100lx/getstart.htm
> ftp://ftp.netwinder.org/users/n/nico
> 
> Nicolas
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In article <385A48C26E.7637GLUCK@mail.crs4.it> you write:
>Hi all,
>I'm going to buy the Intel SA-1100 Multimedia Development Board and the
>SA-1101 Companion Board. I'd like to know if there is anyone running
>linux on this board and any related problem.

I'd recommend against using the SA-1100 since it has a lot of bugs
(the USB implementation is broken (although the SA-1101 companion
might fix this), the PCMCIA socket is weird and has trouble with
16-bit writes to 8-bit I/O space, and so on).

Look at the SA-1110 instead.

  /Christer

-- 
"Just how much can I get away with and still go to heaven?"

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Many thanks for your answer and I have maken this library work. However, I
meet
anther trouble. When I run pppd, it shows something like this:
pppd: This system lacks kernel support for the ppp. This is
because kernel modul is not loaded, or because the kernel is not configured
for ppp.
Actually, I have configured kernel support ppp, also, I copied ppp.o
ppp_deflate.o
to /lib/modules/net/, I can't understand why it doesn't work. I am new in
this area, can
you kindly tell me more about this problem? Thanks for your help very much.
If you have maken your pppd work on Brutus, can you please tell me how you
did it? Furthermore,
if I want to make ethernet work on brutus board, what I should do?
Again, many thanks,

Have a nice day


>    You need to run 'ldconfig' so that ld.so can find the newly added
shared
>libraries.

>I have a problem with pppd support on our brutus board. When I try to run
>pppd, it told me that can't find a library named libcrypt.so.1.  Actually,
I have >copy this library
>to ramdisk. what are happening. Thanks for help.



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Hi all,
today I have a long list of little questions about Brutus :-)

1) Is there anyone who have installed RAM on Brutus board by PCMCIA
socket?

2) Is the pcmcia driver stable and fully working?

3) Is there anyone using an exernal display LCD or VGA? Which one?

TIA
    -gluck


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On Mon, 20 Dec 1999, Gluck wrote:

> Hi all,
> today I have a long list of little questions about Brutus :-)

Not so long apparently!   :-)

> 1) Is there anyone who have installed RAM on Brutus board by PCMCIA
> socket?

No, but it shouldn't be hard assuming the card is already present on boot
and will stay there.  Then little modifications to the source is required.

> 2) Is the pcmcia driver stable and fully working?

Not at all.  Only hardcoded drivers may work at the moment.

> 3) Is there anyone using an exernal display LCD or VGA? Which one?

This is a question you'd better ask on the SA1100/Linux mailing list, to:
sa1100-linux@pa.dec.com.


Nicolas


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Gluck wrote:
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> 3) Is there anyone using an exernal display LCD or VGA? Which one?
> 
You may want to check out the Microwindows/Nano-X project
(http://microwindows.censoft.com/). Martin Jolicoeur
<martinj@visuaide.com> recently wrote a video driver for the SA1100.

Kyle.

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Hi, has anyone had any experience with anything based on the Arm7500FE?
which kernels work, and has anyone had limited success? I've been trying
2.2.10 and i've not yet managed to get it to work past trying init and
dying

cheers,
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In message <19991221233839.A3260@mira.home.fluff.org>, Ben Dooks writes:
>Hi, has anyone had any experience with anything based on the Arm7500FE?
>which kernels work, and has anyone had limited success? I've been trying
>2.2.10 and i've not yet managed to get it to work past trying init and
>dying

The 2.3 tree in CVS certainly used to work fine on my 7500 machine.  I haven't 
tried it recently but it can't have gotten all that badly broken.

p.



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