Re: vi ? (was: MC -e)

From: Karl-Heinz Zimmer (
Date: Thu Jun 22 2000 - 11:18:12 CEST

I don't know if there is a _small_ editor using that
good old approx. 60 Funktionkey combinations as they
did in WP 5.1.

What about the following idea: learn using the vi! ;-)

There are versions of vim for DOS, Window, Linux, ..., ..., ...

Having learned how to use the vi you will NEVER have
to ask for an editor with the keystrokes you are used
to - nevermore for the rest of your life! :-)

Don't you think, it might be worth it?


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On 22.06.00, 11:07:50, "Jef Knoors" <> wrote regarding
Re: vi ? (was: MC -e):

I'm used to Wordperfect 5.1(WP) ; Wordperfect program editor (PE),
wordperfect macro editor(ED).
Thanks in advance
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From: Karl-Heinz Zimmer <>
To: <>
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: vi ? (was: MC -e)

So please tell us WHICH functionkeys are you used to
and we can tell you WHICH editor to put on your floppy. :-)

e.g. You are used to Wordstar functionkeys? Then take 'joe'.


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On 22.06.00, 10:33:59, "Jef Knoors" <> wrote regarding
Re: vi ? (was: MC -e):

Well, you're right about learning to use vi, I should have asked for
an editor wich would use the same functionkey's I'm already used to.
using an editor _without_ learning the next set of commands. Sinds I
use DOS/Windoze/Linux I don't want to reprogramm my memory, but my

----- Original Message -----
From: Karl-Heinz Zimmer <>
To: <>
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 10:21 AM
Subject: vi ? (was: MC -e)

On 22.06.00, 09:39:10, Jef Knoors wrote:

> Does anyone of you know if there's a editor like MC \e
> with out the filemanager.
> Just a smal binary to put on my floppy.
> I searched for hours, but there are so many editors,
> most of them are either very big or difficult to use.

Yes, there IS such an editor, it's name (I am not kidding) is: vi

Why that???

Didn't you ask for an editor that is _not_ 'difficult to use'.

Ok, at the very first moment one might think that I am kidding
or trying to start another flame-war but please take the time
to think about it, maybe this arguments can convince you:

- vi is not intuitive

- therefor many people think it is 'difficult to use'.

Is this true?
Is it 'difficult to use'?

In my opinion it depends on _if_ you take the time
                         to _learn_ using it.

Oh, no, what a stupid argument! ;-)


So what about the fact that a dear muLinux user made a VERY good
tutorial that teaches you how to use the vi step by step?

If one takes the time to do this (indeed not very long) course
she or he will notice that

a) LEARNING the vi with this course is EASY

b) USING the vi when having finished the course is EASY

So where IS the great tutorial?

As mentioned of the muLinux homepage (see 'WEB PAGES') the

is here: uk

Have a lot of Fun! :)


 "Why do we have to hide from the police, Daddy?"      Dave Fischer
    "Because we use vi, son. They use emacs."           1995/06/19
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