. \ FTP and other non-HTTP links should be labelled so, in general. \ Sharing the same pages between expert and novice views is not usually a real advantage. j -==--- . hypertext theory : artificial intelligence : finnegans wake . _+m"m+_"+_ lynx http://www.mcs.net/~jorn/ ! Jp Jp qh qh ftp://ftp.mcs.net/mcsnet.users/jorn/ O O O O news:alt.music.category-freak Yb Yb dY dY ...do you ever feel your mind has started to erode? "Y_ "Y5m2Y" " no. From: rabbit@tygra.Michigan.COM (Roger Rabbit) Newsgroups: comp.text.sgml Subject: How to get The MORTIMER Story Message-ID: <14808@tygra.Michigan.COM> Date: 2 Feb 96 12:06:33 GMT Organization: Shut Up Blair This posting was made automatically by machine. It will appear once every minute or so. Direct any questions to rabbit@Buster.Michigan.COM ------- The MORTIMER story can be retreived from a special archive server (the Mort-Server) To request a part of the MORTIMER story, send mail to one of the addresses below. 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Write: Rabbits for a Better >>> Hutch, Roscommon, MI 48653 E-MAIL: rabbit@Buster.Michigan.COM From: censign@interserv.com (Chet Ensign) Newsgroups: comp.text.sgml Subject: ANNOUNCEMENT: SGML Open hosting open house at Seybold conference Date: Fri, 02 Feb 1996 20:26:35 GMT Organization: I-2000 Inc. - Internet Services Message-ID: <4eth3k$eid@i-2000.com> Visit the SGML Open House at Seybold Seminars Boston The annual spring Seybold conference and exposition takes place at the Hynes Convention Center, Boston, MA, on February 27 through March 1, 1996. If you are going to the conference and/or expo and you have an interest in SGML, you'll want to visit the SGML Open House. The SGML Open House is an informal meeting place for Seybold attendees who want more information about SGML and its application to today's electronic publishing solutions. Attendees can share ideas with other users, have their questions answered by SGML experts, collect educational materials, and learn about new developments in SGML-based technologies. The SGML Open House is sponsored and staffed by the members of SGML Open, the international consortium of suppliers whose products and services support SGML. The Open House, scheduled for Wednesday and Thursday, February 28 and 29 from 10:00 am to 6:00 pm, is located in Room 102a at the Hynes Convention Center. Refreshments will be provided by SGML Open sponsor member companies ArborText, Inc., XSoft, Data Conversion Laboratory, and the Graphic Communications Association. Chet Ensign Chairperson, External Communications Committee SGML Open From: timbl@w3.org (Tim Berners-Lee) Newsgroups: comp.text.sgml Subject: Re: WWW-RANT: Biting the hand that gave us birth-- sorry TBL Date: 2 Feb 1996 23:21:47 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <4eu6ab$kd1@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> References: <4et921$8nr@Mercury.mcs.com> Reply-To: timbl@w3.org In article <4et921$8nr@Mercury.mcs.com> jorn@MCS.COM (Jorn Barger) writes: > > I've been reluctant to critique Tim Berners-Lee's WWWeb style guide at > \, because Tim invented > the WWWeb, and for that alone he should bask in glory, all his days... Well, that's very nice of you, but for goodness' sake don't worry about tearing my ideas of style to pieces. Reluctance is *not* called for. I haven't had much time to revisit the guide. I think many of your criticisms are very accurate. If I have time I'll revise it. The only things in your comments I am not sure about are the those resenting wasting reader's time with small documents, like footnotes. There is clearly a differnt style which one needs in a 28.8 environment with one Netscape wondow compared with a fast multiwindow environment. The orginal WWW program opened a new window, unadorned, by default (very quickly, much faster than a typeical clone function). When you have fast access and easy retreat, (like for example a definition in Microsoft Help) you can afford to do different things. If I had time which I don't right now :-( I would discuss the differences in style with browser style and net speed. I'll keep your comments in the guide anyway. Thank you for them! (I imagine and hope that thoughts on style have come a long way since that guide, but I do get quite a lot of +ive feeedback about it too ;-) Tim ___________________________________________________________ Tim Berners-Lee Director, W3 Consortium MIT Laboratory for Computer Science Phone +1 (617) 253 5702 545 Technology Square Fax +1 (617) 258 8682 Cambridge MA 02139, USA Email timbl@w3.org http://www.w3.org/People/Berners-Lee From: Bernstein@eastgate.com (Mark Bernstein) Newsgroups: comp.text.sgml,alt.hypertext Subject: Re: Hypertext Theories Date: Fri, 02 Feb 1996 18:19:30 -0500 Organization: Eastgate Systems, Inc. Message-ID: \ References: <9601300135.AA15133@fly.hiwaay.net> <4ek508$igd@Venus.mcs.com> <9601311617.AA22637@fly.hiwaay.net> <4eojl1$38s@Mercury.mcs.com> <9602010548.AA27472@fly.HiWAAY.net> In article <9602010548.AA27472@fly.HiWAAY.net>, Len Bullard \ wrote: > We know how to write DTDs. We need an SGML system that is property-based > for assignment of multiple semantics. Len -- was your choice of the indefinite article, "_an_ SGML system", an accident? Or does it mean that you might be open to a redefinition of SGML or to a new standard, generalized markup language? I confess that I've never understood the technical reason that a generalized markup language could not be devised to be, say, LR(1). Were SGML less difficult to parse, or more amenable to the use of compiler generators, I'm sure that this debate would be less violent. Could it, in principle, be done? -- Mark Bernstein Bernstein@eastgate.com Eastgate Systems, Inc voice: (800) 562-1638 +1 (617) 924-9044 134 Main Street fax: (617) 924-9051 Watertown MA 02172 USA http://www.eastgate.com/ Newsgroups: comp.text.sgml From: pollarda@Hawaii.Edu (Art Pollard) Subject: SGML Style Sheets Message-ID: \ Sender: news@news.hawaii.edu Organization: University of Hawaii Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 16:55:10 GMT I am looking for information on the new style sheet standard for SGML. Where might I look to find additional information on it? Also, how robust is it? (I.e., can I duplicate all the text display fuctionality in WordPerfect with such a style sheet -- assuming the display engine can do it? Any information would be more than helpful. Thanks, -Art Newsgroups: comp.text.sgml Message-ID: \ From: ST.KURTZ@BIONIC.zerberus.de (Stefan Kurtz) Organization: FoeBuD e.V. - Billyfield Subject: TEI & SQ's Author/Editor Date: Fri, 02 Feb 1996 23:39:34 +0100 Hello, I want to use SoftQuads Author/Editor with the TEI-dtds. I tried many times - but I never had success. Rulesbuilder failed with some "entities missing" etc. messages. The other people from our project did'nt manage it too. Well, there are no entity-files missing, we tried with different distributions. Rumours from the net say, that it is in fact impossible to use TEI with A/E - is this true or not? Clueless, Stefan. -- "....Virtue is more to be feared than vice, because its excesses are not subject to the regulation of conscience." --Adam Smith st.kurtz@bionic.zerberus.de <> stkurtz@coli.uni-bielefeld.de http://www.uni-bielefeld.de.de/~stkurtz/