Re: [mu INSTALL] Greetings

From: Unit 4 (
Date: Sat Feb 26 2000 - 09:13:49 CET

I'm changing the title since this has become a viable topic it seems.

On Thu, 24 Feb 2000 08:32:56 -0500, D Howard wrote:

}As a newbie to Linux and someone who recently tried to configure muLinux I
}can readily identify with the suggestions that have been put forward in this
}attached correspondence. A more complete write up as described would sure
}help me get up and running with then some knowledge of what just happened!
}I be happy to act as a 'test' or 'validation' for any such write ups..
}>From - Someone who appreciates the great stuff going on in the Linux world
}and wants to join in...
} Regards Dan Howard

My C:\ crashed, talking my installed muLinux with it (and all the DLLs for
all the software I've installed since I started... grrrr.). So I'm going
to reinstall, and I'm going to start collecting the install scripts in
order to do this.

A couple questions before I do this:

Must the UMSDOS muLinux reside on C:\?

Can there be other UMSDOS/muLinux directories on other logical partitions?

I'd really like to make muLinux the best and most popular choice for DOS
users wanting to learn to switch over. The only real competition in the
UMSDOS area right now is WinLinux (138 MB) and BigSlack (Slackware 7; 270
MB). It wouldn't take much at all for muLinux to be made as easy as those.
In fact it already is -- they just can't tell yet.

I'll certainly post a draft of the pre-install checklist when it's ready.

}-----Original Message-----
}From: Unit 4 []
}Sent: February 23, 2000 8:28 PM
}Subject: Re: [mu OT] Greetings
}On Wed, 23 Feb 2000 14:20:09 +0100, Michele Andreoli wrote:
}}> And, I think it would be very helpful if the complete installation script
}}> could be made available as a text file prior to the install, so users
}}> could find the pertinent info and fill in the blanks before they start.
}}You mean a kind of "kickstart" for muLinux, a big file with a list
}}of x=y values? This not possible because the first segment of the first
}}floppy disk is ext2fs, not DOS. Using syslinux and not LILO this should be
}}possible, but syslinux do not work with superformatting, etc.
}No, I mean just a text copy of the steps that the users goes through
}during installation. Not a program at all. It would allow them to "fill in
}the blanks" on paper so that they will have all the names and numbers they
}need to put in when the installer is run. This is something they could be
}given as a text file with the DOSTOOLS zipfile or put on a web site.
}The installer procedure assumes you know the answers to all the questions
}it will ask. (Of course you can go back later and change things.) Some
}people won't know the answers and that will scare them off. They might
}think if they can't answer then it won't work and the whole Linux will
}fail. Others may not even understand the questions on the installer. If
}they had the questions before they start, they could find out the answers
}they need. If this pre-install check list explained what it was asking
}for, those who did not understand would learn to.
}}> Maybe even have some explanation of what it is being asked for, so those
}}> users who aren't familiar with how to answer things about servers and
}}> domains and such could get set up with minimum trouble. I'm thinking
}}> mostly of those setting up on a machine where they've never used anything
}}> but Windows. They talk different.
}}It's true: muLinux installer do not explains step-by-step the meaning
}}of all parameters, but what about WIN98? It pick randomly an hard-disk,
}}format it and install the system in it, without asking me anything!
}Windows does not explain well because they don't want people to
}understand. They just want people to depend on them for thinking. This is
}all the more reason why Linux should not be this way.
}}> I can't say as I'll have a lot of technical expertise to offer, but what
}}> would be glad to offer is skills in documentation. I can write clearly
}}> anyone at any level. If I can help here, please let me know.
}}An Installation-Guide for DOS users? A GUIDE which cover all possible
}}trouble for DOS user.
}The major problems, yes. In DOS language, so they can install without
}feeling totally lost. Make Linux friendly to them, so they will feel
}If you would tell me where to look for the list of questions that the
}installer asks, I will make that part of the docs.
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