Re: [mu BUG] A bug in the 10.x serie (sorry)

From: Michele Andreoli (
Date: Sat Oct 28 2000 - 15:48:15 CEST

On Sat, Oct 28, 2000 at 02:25:25PM +0200, Arvid Nymoen nicely wrote:
> At 13:11 25.10.00 +0200, MA wrote:
> >For the sake of the humanity, I will release soon a 10r5 version.
> I don't know if this is a bug or something happening in my setup
> only:
> Telling the setup in mu 10.4 (or mu 10.3) that I did not want serial
> connections between two computers, but wanted configuration for my
> internet service provider did not give me a working setup. I could
> connect to my ISP, but fetchmail and lynx could not be used.
> (There is nothing wrong with with the computer/modem/my service
> provider: Mu9.5 and mu7.6 - and Windows - could be used on the same
> evening.) I tried to change the three ppp, ppp0, ppp1 files -
> without success (Frankly I don't quite understand the differences there,
> I like the one ppp.cnf setup in the earlier versions better.)

We have now setup/isp for Internet: ppp0 and ppp1 are for direct
serial connections

> But then - copying the file "resolv.conf" from an earlier version
> into the /etc katalog fixed it. The resolv.conf made by 10.4 setup
> contains nothing, the earlier file contains lines like these:
> search
> nameserver < my internet service provider

This is now demanded to setup/network. You need:

                # setup isp
                # setup network

The thinks are now logically separated, and that happens also in recent Debian.
> To end with a positive statement :-)
> I like very much to play with Wine from the EMU addon. Of course much
> does not work, but a lot does! And because Michele gives us Wine
> (perhaps Italian vino bianco) in his famous "Big thing in a small
> package" way, hard disk storage is no problem.
> >From Wine's own documentation:
> 3.3: How much disk space will the Wine source code and binaries
> take on my hard drive?
> It is anticipated that when Wine is completed, you will need
> approximately 50 megabytes of hard drive space to store and
> compile the source code.
> I know the addon can't be used for development, men for most
> users it will be enough to show what the Wine prosject has been
> trying to do.

Sources are on Internet, but to compile a such package requires
a lot of missing material. We have Linux distros for that.
I wish not to make copy.

> I use mulinux on stand-alone computers only. It is mainly used as
> "backup" solution. Should my Windows fail, I know I can use mulinux
> to get mail and use the internet. But Windows never fail - at least
> on my computers (I'm lucky!). I still use mulinux frequently just
> because I like it. It contains what I need in a small package.

yes, you are lucky. In my case, Windows fail often, because I try
to use it as usually I use Linux: swapping fast from a window to
another and opening many apps. In this case, often, I get some
"unrecoverable error in module XYZ - contact the owner", or
somethink like.

> But in version 10.4 (and 10.3 before that) setup are starting to
> get more complicated than in the earlier versions. I think new users
> would be better served by choosing something older - like version 9.5.
> Specifically I did not like the ppp/ISP setup procedure.

setup/isp is identicall to older setup/ppp. I never use setup/isp, but
use frequently setup/ppp0 to connect my two computers.
Previous setup was very ingenous compared to current, believe me:
now, when PPP is up, all internal network status is changed to
reflect dinamycally the new routing. For example: Samba is restarted
and is capable to go in Internet.

I'm very happy to see that also my recently installed Debian 2.2 do
something like: IPs are taken dinamycally telling a list of
interfaces. So, I used incounsciously the correct method.

Obviously, as far Internet navigation is concerned, you can call
all that "complications", but isn't the case.

Now, you can call from the office the muLinux in your home, and
assign to it an IP; then muLinux restart internal server using the
assigned IP: a sort of DHCP over PPP.


"I'd like to conclude with a positive statement, but I can't remember any.
Would two negative ones do?"			-- Woody Allen
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